Week 7 Matchups + The Rumble Bumble Stumble - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/23

Summary

**Fantasy Footballers Podcast - Episode Summary
Title: Week 7 Matchups + The Rumble Bumble Stumble
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Release Date: October 23, 2020

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Introduction

The Fantasy Footballers kicked off the episode with lively banter about a memorable play involving Daniel Jones, setting an engaging tone for the in-depth Week 7 matchup analysis.

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The Rumble Bumble Stumble: Daniel Jones' Memorable Play

One of the standout moments discussed was Daniel Jones' spectacular touchdown run, which left both fans and fantasy managers in awe.

• Jason Moore [02:10]: "Daniel freaking Jones was loose. He ran. Clearly he was."
• Andy Holloway [01:46]: "His face was like he no longer had control of his body... He did not make it."

Andy and Jason reflect on Jones' unexpected speed, clocking at nearly 21 mph, which was just a fraction under Tyreek Hill's fastest speed of the year. This play resulted in a significant touchdown that impacted fantasy outcomes, particularly frustrating for those holding Jones in their dynasty leagues.

• Jason Moore [02:18]: "If you played him, you are very happy. If you saw him on your opponent's roster as Jason did, you're very frustrating."

Despite the excitement, Daniel Jones ultimately fumbled, leading to a narrow victory for the Eagles by one point—a game that epitomized the NFC East's competitive spirit.

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Week 7 Matchups Analysis

1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. Las Vegas Raiders

• Buccaneers (4-2) are slight favorites with a 52-point over/under.

Quarterback Analysis:

• Tom Brady is recommended to be started despite Las Vegas being 20th against opposing fantasy quarterbacks.
• Mike Wright [18:30]: "I really like most of the Tampa Bay options, so I'm absolutely fine starting Brady."

Running Backs:

• Ronald Jones is praised for his performance against a weak Raiders defense (31st against RBs).
• Josh Jacobs remains a solid pick despite some defensive front concerns.

Wide Receivers:

• Henry Ruggs is considered high-risk due to his tendency for deep targets and inconsistent performances.
• Mike Evans is suggested to be shopped around due to his low target count despite high touchdown potential.

Tight Ends:

• Gronkowski shows promise with a 94% target pace, making him a viable option.

2. Kansas City Chiefs vs. Denver Broncos

• Chiefs (5-1) are heavy favorites with a 46-point over/under.

Quarterback Analysis:

• Patrick Mahomes is expected to continue his stellar performance against a Denver defense struggling against the run (Clyde Edwards is recommended over Giovanni Bernard due to his consistent touches).

Running Backs:

• Melvin Gordon’s role is uncertain with potential competition from Philip Lindsay.
• Mike Wright [28:10]: "If you're playing him despite Fournette practicing in full, you just got to keep."

Wide Receivers:

• Keenan Allen and Mike Williams are highlighted as strong options, with Williams offering high upside due to his deep play potential.

Fantasy Insight:

• Chiefs’ defense is formidable, limiting Denver’s scoring abilities and projecting a potentially close but low-scoring game.

3. Chicago Bears vs. Los Angeles Rams (Monday Night Football)

• Bears (5-1) take on the Rams (4-2) with a 45-point over/under.

Running Backs:

• David Montgomery is recommended as a solid RB2 option due to his volume against a Rams defense that allows the fourth-highest run success rate.

Wide Receivers:

• Keenan Allen and Mike Williams are favored over other options due to their reliable target shares and matchup advantages.

Tight Ends:

• Gerald Everett is suggested as a potential starter if Tyler Higby’s status is questionable.

Fantasy Insight:

• The Bears’ consistent performance makes them a reliable choice, while the Rams’ recent defensive vulnerabilities present opportunities.

4. Los Angeles Chargers vs. Jacksonville Jaguars

• Chargers (1-4) vs. Jaguars (1-5) with a 49-point over/under.

Quarterback Analysis:

• Justin Herbert is highly recommended due to his explosive play potential, especially against a defense that has allowed high passing yardage.

Wide Receivers:

• Mike Williams is emphasized for his deep-route capabilities and quarterback trust.

Running Backs:

• Justin Jackson is the favored pick, though limited practice raises slight concerns. Joshua Kelly is a strong flex consideration if Jackson is limited.

Fantasy Insight:

• Chargers offer high upside with Herbert’s passing prowess, making them an attractive option despite their overall record.

5. Arizona Cardinals vs. Seattle Seahawks

• Cardinals (3-3) host the Seahawks (5-0) with a 56-point over/under.

Wide Receivers:

• Christian Kirk is recommended due to his favorable matchup against a Seahawks defense that is susceptible to wide receivers.

Tight Ends:

• Tyler Higby remains a high-value waiver pick, though Gerald Everett offers a reliable backup option.

Fantasy Insight:

• The Cardinals vs. Seahawks game is anticipated to be high-scoring ("fireworks"), offering numerous engaging fantasy opportunities.

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Key Injury Updates

• Michael Thomas: Did not practice on Thursday due to a hamstring tweak, making him a long shot to play [09:50]. It is advised to hold off on starting him until further updates.
• Joe Mixon: Not practicing, with concerns about a foot injury affecting performance and availability. Andy Holloway [10:11]: "If he's active, I'm playing Joe Mixon."
• Darrell Henderson: Missed practice with a thigh injury, raising doubts about his production in the upcoming game.
• Jameson Crowder: Added to the injury report with a groin injury, suggesting a need for pivot options.
• Ryan Fitzpatrick: No longer a starter, impacting the Chargers’ quarterback options.

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Player Recommendations

• Start:

  • Tom Brady (Buccaneers)
  • Ronald Jones (Buccaneers RB)
  • Josh Jacobs (Raiders RB)
  • Keenan Allen & Mike Williams (Chargers WR)
  • Justin Herbert (Chargers QB)
  • David Montgomery (Bears RB)
  • Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs QB)

• Avoid or Exercise Caution:

  • Henry Ruggs (Raiders WR) due to volatile performance
  • Michael Thomas (Saints WR) likely inactive
  • Evan Ingram (Rams TE) after a costly drop
  • Joe Mixon (Bengals RB) due to injury uncertainty

• Potential Breakouts:

  • Christian Kirk (Seahawks WR)
  • Gerald Everett (Rams TE) as a reliable tight end option
  • JOSH Jacobs’ significant role if offensive line performs

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Additional Discussions

National Best Friends Day Celebration

The hosts shared a humorous story about inadvertently creating a "National Best Friends Day" in their work calendar, which led to unexpected recognition and celebrations from their listeners.

• Jason Moore [06:35]: "This is just a really funny story..."
• Andy Holloway [07:22]: "Number one, it is National Best Friends Day. Send your best friend some encouraging words."

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Insights and Conclusions

The Fantasy Footballers provided comprehensive insights into the Week 7 NFL matchups, emphasizing the importance of staying updated on player injuries and matchup-specific strategies. The discussions highlighted the value of reliable players like Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes, while cautioning against volatile options such as Henry Ruggs and injured stars like Michael Thomas. Additionally, the episode underscored the impact of unexpected plays, such as Daniel Jones' fumble, on fantasy outcomes.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Wright [20:55]: "All right, Henry Ruggs what do we think about Henry Ruggs possibilities in this game?"
• Jason Moore [22:45]: "I think you have a decent probability of re-agravating and leaving the game."
• Andy Holloway [34:10]: "I do everything I can to play anybody over David Montgomery."

The hosts concluded by encouraging listeners to engage with their community through JoinTheFoot.com and to participate in prop bets via Monkey Knife Fight, enhancing the interactive and strategic elements of their fantasy football experience.

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This summary captures the key discussions, player analyses, and strategic insights from the Fantasy Footballers' Week 7 episode, providing a comprehensive overview for fantasy managers aiming to optimize their lineups.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, this is Kenyon Drake. You're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. He's dead. He's gone. It's just you, me, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I thought that was a.

[Andy Holloway]

That was my Daniel Jones intro, baby. Yeah, that's my Daniel Jones.

[Jason Moore]

The stumble.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

I mean that the play has to get named like this. Oh, the rumble.

[Andy Holloway]

Stumble, rumble, Bumble. I mean, spectacular television.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

The game, the NFC east, all of it personified in one incredible play. Right before the show, we were reflecting on Daniel Jones incredible run. Joe Buck screaming, he's gone.

[Jason Moore]

Because he was.

[Andy Holloway]

He was gone and then he wasn't. And what did you say? You said next gen stats put Daniel Jones. How fast?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they clocked it. I don't have the number right in front of me. We can try and find it. But the point was Daniel Jones was running so fast, he was just a fraction under Tyree kills fastest speed of this year. He was running like 21 miles an hour. Daniel freaking Jones was loose. He ran. Clearly he was. He's never run that fast before in his life.

[Andy Holloway]

Because. Face. Did you see his face? His face was like he no longer had control of his body. His body was running him and he did not know what to do. And he did not make it.

[Jason Moore]

No, he did not make it. That was personally painful for me. I played Daniel Jones in our Dynasty League.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my.

[Jason Moore]

Much to my chagrin. So that was.

[Andy Holloway]

What is that? Another. Another 15 yards, a touchdown and the bonus.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

So that was massive points that we missed. Or that I missed out on, I'm sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Were you counting on the old 85 yard touchdown run from the quarterback?

[Jason Moore]

No, I certainly was not. But I had. I had to let it go. I. I didn't get mad. That was the funniest thing I've seen in a really long time. Thank you. Daniel Jones. The entire New York Giants sideline appreciated it. They all laughed. Daniel Jones did not think it was very funny.

[Mike Wright]

That game last night was what the NFC east promised us. It was. It was a game where it really seemed like neither team could win. And even when finally it seemed like one was going to win, they didn't. It was incredible.

[Andy Holloway]

Ended on a Daniel fumble. Jones fumble. Yeah, it was. It was a football game.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And the Eagles came out on top by a point.

[Jason Moore]

And Boston Scott came through in the final 40 seconds. So if you played him, you are very happy. If you saw him on your opponent's roster as Jason did, you're Very frustrating.

[Mike Wright]

And what's funny is I was happy for the majority of the game. I mean, this is. They're using three running backs. He's not looking great. And then at the very end of the game, like, oh, no, he put.

[Jason Moore]

Up a ton of points. I think you need a different word than majority because there was 40 seconds left in the game.

[Mike Wright]

That is you win some, you lose some. I lost that one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was. And desean Jackson hurt again. He gets hurt in every game he plays, and he's going to be out multiple weeks. Travis Fulgham looked great again, in my opinion. And he's a real deal. He is. He seems to be. And the thing is, is whether he is or not, Carson Wentz throws him the football, he targets him.

[Mike Wright]

I had a memory that was not real, picking him up in Dynasty, and I was so excited. And I went and I looked at my roster. I was like, I, in fact, did not do that. I thought that.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that a dream? Did you have a dream?

[Mike Wright]

No, I just.

[Andy Holloway]

Were you awake?

[Jason Moore]

Like a Blade Runner situation?

[Mike Wright]

I thought I had picked him up, and I was very happy.

[Andy Holloway]

And who got him in Dynasty?

[Mike Wright]

I'm not going to answer that question.

[Andy Holloway]

I spent all my fab on him after that breakout performance. But, yeah, we. It was. It was entertaining.

[Jason Moore]

We also saw what happens to Carson Wentz when he has a tight end one.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my.

[Jason Moore]

Playing for him.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my.

[Jason Moore]

Who led the team in receiving, by the way? 6 for 85 for Richard Rogers. If you had the courage to trust the process of that. Carson Wentz throws to the tight end position. You should be very happy. And Richard. Richard Rogers is going to be a hot pickup.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I was going to ask you for the next few weeks. We think Goddard will come back, win week 10. Week 10?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. They're saying week 10, but who knows?

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Yeah, it was interesting. It is Friday.

[Mike Wright]

Foot Clan Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, It's Foot Clan Friday. A weekly giveaway for a supporter [e-mail] this week's item from Pristine Auction, a signed Chris Godwin jersey.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, mercy.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that what you snagged, Brooks? That's a nice one. Oh, yeah. Joe Forte is the winner [e-mail] Congratulations, Joe. Thank you for supporting Chris Goblin jersey. Which reminds me, we do have a Halloween episode coming up in one week, and Brooks has managed to put together a little highlight of our last, what, five years worth of Halloween shows? Yes, sir. So that'll be up on Twitter @ the FF Ballers. Today and brought back some memories, especially that first Halloween.

[Mike Wright]

Oof.

[Andy Holloway]

The studio's had some upgrades since then, I would say.

[Mike Wright]

That first one we phoned that in, that was. There was just the beginning. We didn't know what it would become.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right. So we've got things planned for next week. You'll definitely want to go to YouTube.com the fantasy footballers that is one of the most watched episodes of the year because people want to come in and see. When I saw the highlight film, I still couldn't believe how funny you looked as Jeff Fisher. Your Jeff Fisher was outstanding. It was credit to your mate Nate.

[Mike Wright]

It was. It was just. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

It was a 500.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair. That's a good point.

[Jason Moore]

And speaking of memories, fellas, today is National Best Friends Day as dubbed by me and Jason last year.

[Mike Wright]

October 23rd.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know why I'm here.

[Jason Moore]

So this is just a really funny story. So last year, Andy was out. It was the show. So the show was just Jason and I. Somehow, at some point, I declared it was National Best Friends Day because we were really playing up that Jason and I were. We were the best of friends on that particular day, which you always seem.

[Andy Holloway]

To be when I'm gone.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, when you're gone, we are best friends.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that is. That is correct. And I said, I'm putting this in my calendar to remind me next year. So this week rolls around, I'm looking at the calendar. Oh, what's going on? And then there's this Note. This is October 23rd Best Friends Day in our work calendar. And I messaged you, Chris, what the heck?

[Andy Holloway]

You didn't even know what it was.

[Jason Moore]

Guys, what is this? And we're all trying to figure it out. And then we start getting messages on Twitter. That's. Oh, guys, Best Friends Day is coming up.

[Mike Wright]

And I said, what is happening?

[Andy Holloway]

We got a package in the mail.

[Jason Moore]

We. Someone designed a logo of Jason. And I would j. Griz celebrating a handsome logo. Best. Best Friends Day. And I had completely forgotten about it. And so what I have learned, Number one, it is National Best Friends Day. Send your best friend some encouraging words like just lift up someone's day. And number two, your words are powerful because I just threw something out in jest that I did not remember. But clearly a lot of people were. Were waiting for this to celebrate such a holiday.

[Andy Holloway]

It seems like of all the holidays I should get off. Your Best Friends Day should be the one that I get to sit at home. I should have had my coffee on the porch on a rocking chair. Just.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, we're sitting on the thrones. But this is, you know, this is for all. Anybody.

[Andy Holloway]

My best friend in this situation.

[Mike Wright]

You're going to have to find one. Andy, you're available?

[Jason Moore]

Brooks?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, sir. Okay, Brooks is available.

[Mike Wright]

There it is. And Owls left on his own.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm sorry, Al. You probably have somebody somewhere.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

No. Who gives a hoot?

[Andy Holloway]

Let's talk news.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we did have a schedule change. The Buccaneers Raiders game, that was originally the Sunday Night Football game. Out of an abundance of caution, the NFL moved this game because there is, there remains the possibility that this game is affected by the COVID situation. So it did come out that that's the reason they moved it. They put the Cardinals Seahawks in the Sunday night spot. And so right now, the Buccaneers game still happening, the Cardinals games happening, but that is the Sunday night game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. All the tests came back great today for the Raiders. So the expectation is game on.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Otherwise. Yeah, that's very good news. Otherwise, Michael Thomas, this is a headline for fantasy players because he didn't practice on Thursday. He tweaked his hamstring, which violates the code of ethics. You're not allowed to have more than one injury at once. I don't know if you guys knew that.

[Jason Moore]

I was aware. Michael Thomas was not.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe that's the discipline from last week. Two injuries. Yep, you're gone. But no. Ian Rapoport back on Twitter calling him a long shot to play on Sunday.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, look, if you really did hurt your hamstring, I mean, we saw it with Julio Jones, we saw it with Devonte Adams. I mean, you can't play with an injured hamstring. So the fact that he's not practicing and being called a long shot to play. That being said, I would imagine that at this point the fantasy managers have a pivot option because they have not yet had Michael Thomas.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, let's go in or out on Michael Thomason. Do you think he plays?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Neither do I. Joe Mixon didn't practice again on Thursday. He's not practicing today. Zach Taylor calls him day to day. If we're going in and out on Joe Mixon, I am still in. I still believe Joe Mixon will play this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I lean that they're just giving him rest because it's problematic, but I don't, I don't confidently know he's going to play well.

[Jason Moore]

Andy, let's talk this real quick. What is your confidence in throwing Joe Mixon into your starting lineup, this isn't ribs. This isn't just, I can deal with some pain or I get a shot that hopefully doesn't puncture my lungs and I play through it. This is a. This is a foot problem. This actually will affect performance. On top of that, it's a foot injury. So you have a decent probability of re. Aggravating and leaving the game.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, Joe Mixon's, I believe, leading the league in touches at the running back position. I think I'd like them to make it easy on me, which is, look, if he can't play, just let's declare him out. Let me make a pivot for my fantasy team. If he's active, I'm playing Joe Mixon. That's just what I'm going to do.

[Mike Wright]

So if you. Let's say David Montgomery is a pivot option, would you still play Joe Mixon over David Montgomery?

[Andy Holloway]

I do everything I can to play anybody over David Montgomery.

[Mike Wright]

That's a good point. That's a good point.

[Andy Holloway]

So, yeah, yeah. My confidence is that Joe Mixon will play through. He's played through injury before, so if he's active, I'm playing him. That's just the way I'm going to go about it. Darrell Henderson didn't practice due to a thigh injury. This is unfortunate. It's a Monday Night Football game.

[Jason Moore]

Goodness gracious.

[Mike Wright]

But missing Thursday practice for a Monday night game is basically like missing the Wednesday. So I'm not worried yet.

[Jason Moore]

Are you picking up Cam Acres?

[Mike Wright]

If I've got Henderson, yeah. I mean, you need to be ready to pivot.

[Andy Holloway]

I got some terrible news. Al Borland, in desperation, searching for a best friend today because he didn't have one, ending up having to settle for the loser.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no. What a. What a loser.

[Andy Holloway]

That would be Brian Ketron Gross, the illustrious loser of the listener league from years gone by and still a loser to this day.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I mean, a lovable loser, sure.

[Jason Moore]

Is there a better word than illustrious?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Legitimate.

[Jason Moore]

Legitimate is better than illustrious? Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you were saying the way it sounds.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

No to use.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you just. Just in. I'm. I'm just commending Andy on going with the word illustrious.

[Andy Holloway]

Which word is more illustrious? Illustrious or fair game or legit?

[Jason Moore]

Leading the witness.

[Mike Wright]

I object.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm sorry, Al. But at least you got one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah. I'm excited.

[Andy Holloway]

You're certainly the better of the two.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, big time. You always got to choose a best friend that's not quite as good as you.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

That's good plan.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry, Brooks.

[Jason Moore]

Good plan. I see what you're doing over there.

[Andy Holloway]

I think we both know who that is. Right, Brooks? Oh, yeah. I know my role. All right, here's good news. Johnny Smith practice full on.

[Jason Moore]

That's great.

[Andy Holloway]

He should play. But with the Darrell Henderson news, do you have. Have you lost confidence because of Monday Night Football with Cam Acres, Malcolm Brown, and the variables in the running game?

[Jason Moore]

Not yet.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. We do have an injury blitz podcast coming out later this afternoon or tomorrow. Brooks, are those normally coming out late Friday or early Saturday? Usually getting them out late Friday. Okay, so that's jointhefoot.com if you want to get in on that. That all of. All the Friday practice reports and some reflections from our injury expert, Matthew Betts on what to do with some of these players. Jameson Crowder didn't practice. Added to the injury report with a groin injury. Look, if Jameson Crowder misses this game or is limited. Rashad Perryman is an actual player that you could think about.

[Jason Moore]

It sounds like you're talking about the Jets, Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't.

[Jason Moore]

I. I've been chastised over and over for talking about the Jets.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you agree with me?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Rashad Perryman could play, and maybe as of right now, they are expecting Sam Darnold to be there. This is. You never want to see a player midweek get downgraded, and that's what's happened with Crowder. So I think you've got to take that serious and look for other options. Likewise, AJ Brown for the Titans. He did not practice Wednesday. He did not practice Thursday. That is.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that true? I thought he practiced in full on Wednesday. That's the report that I have. And then didn't practice.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. I'm sorry. Practice. Did not practice in full, but did not practice at all. A full. Did not participant on Thursday. That's what I'm saying is when you are downgraded midweek, that's usually a very bad sign.

[Andy Holloway]

So didn't practice Wednesday or did practice Wednesday? Didn't practice Thursday.

[Mike Wright]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Downgrade.

[Jason Moore]

We got there.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Robert. Tanya.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Big news.

[Andy Holloway]

We found out this is how you pronounce his last name. It's Tanya, not Tanya. It's Tanya, like Paul. Like Paul Bunyan.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, Paul Bunyan.

[Andy Holloway]

Our really only opportunity to potentially defeat Gigantor in a battle. Paul Bunyan, while smaller than Gigantor, does, could compete with the axe that he has.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he has an axe. And does he get his big blue ox?

[Mike Wright]

That's too much.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Animal warfare. It's Too much.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm not sure that's too much. All right, it's too much. But he is. He was limited in practice, did not have a great game. This is a new. You know, he's not been in the rotation for fantasy players before. It gives me a little hesitation.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyler Higby, non participant at Thursday's practice. Higby has been one of the most recently added players to waiver wires that I've seen. I've seen him hit waiver wires quite a bit. But Gerald Everett, I want to. I'm bringing this up because Gerald Everett is a great play. If Higby was to miss this week.

[Jason Moore]

That is a good point.

[Andy Holloway]

I would feel. I would feel much better with Everett than I would Tanya this week if that was the situation. Any other injury news you guys want to touch on?

[Jason Moore]

Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's get back into the forecast.

[Mike Wright]

Fantasy forecast.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. We covered the Lions, Falcons, Browns, Bengals, Steelers, Titans, Panthers, Saints, Bills, Jets, Cowboys and Washington yesterday and we've got seven games remaining. A reminder, the Colts, Dolphins, Vikings and Ravens are on by this week. So let's get into the matchups. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers at 4 and 2 taking on the Las Vegas Raiders who are currently 3 and 2. This games in Las Vegas, the Buccaneers are four point favorites. It's a 52 point over under. I'm not quite sure what to think of Tampa Bay. I think they are a pretty good team. They have had a couple of games where they don't look that way and then the majority they've looked like they're figuring it out. So let's start at the quarterback position. Tampa Bay has been really good. The defensive side of the football, they're third right now. I don't think Derek Carr is an option in this game.

[Jason Moore]

He is not.

[Andy Holloway]

They're only giving up 14 fantasy points per game to the quarterback position. On the other side, my taking it to 100 player, it was Tom Brady this week. The Raiders are 20th against opposing fantasy quarterbacks and I think they're starting to figure this offense out. We give, you know, Tom Brady, maybe we have high expectations for him because he's Tom Brady, right. I mean he has high expectations for himself. Still learning a new offense, dealing with players coming back from injury. Chris Godwin back last week. So I think that they're going to become more consistent on the offensive side of the ball and I think it could start in this game here they're favored. It's a good over under. Do you guys feel confident enough to start Brady this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's certainly in the mix as a streamable option. This isn't a scary matchup. You're getting healthier in the wide receiver core. I really like most of the Tampa Bay options, so I'm absolutely fine starting Brady. The one worry that I would have and the reason he's not an absolute must start is that the Raiders are very porous on the ground. So far this season against the running back position, Ronald Jones has been looking amazing. The defense of the Buccaneers looks great. So there is the outcome where and you need to decide what you believe about this game. But I do think there is a game script where Ronald Jones is phenomenal, has another hundred yard game, has two touchdowns and they don't really need to air it out that much. But the Raiders have not gone quietly into the night. They have beat good teams, they have surprised. They've hit the over in all five of their games this year. So while I see that as an outcome, that isn't what I expect to happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, let's look at the running backs. Ronald Jones you talked about, he's been great. The Raiders at 31st against running backs.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

You're playing him despite Fournette practicing in full and any worries that you have, you just got to keep.

[Mike Wright]

He was going to be my start of the week, but I felt like everyone would start him.

[Andy Holloway]

He's on fire. Right. Three straight weeks.

[Mike Wright]

So just make sure you start Josh Jacobs.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been pretty great this year. Coming off the by, we do have offensive line concerns. The test coming back, I guess that would be coming back negative. That is a positive for Josh Jacobs. But again, the defensive front for Tampa. Josh Jacobs success is obviously connected to the Raiders winning and the kind of identity of this team is they want to get out to a lead and they want to be able to run the football. They want to be able to slow the game down a little bit. And Jacobs has been very good, but he's. He's got five touchdowns on the year. They've just come in two of the five games he's played.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean we said this before last week that Josh Jacobs has his good games in wins and we didn't expect him to win the last time out against Kansas City Chiefs. They did. He had a great game. I don't expect the Raiders to win this game. I think that the Buccaneers are the better team. But if they. If.

[Andy Holloway]

When you just don't bench Josh Jacobs.

[Mike Wright]

No, you don't bench anyone with that kind of volume.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Henry Ruggs what do we think about Henry Ruggs possibilities in this game? 55% of his targets have been 20 plus yards down the field. That is the highest rate in the NFL. He is the true one touch man of the NFL right now. Based on those numbers, you willing to take a shot? Take a chance.

[Jason Moore]

I don't like it. This particular week the Buccaneers, they have some strong corners including the emergence of Carlton Davis. The Bucks are a legit defense. They have fixed things over here. They are seventh currently against fantasy wide receivers. They can get pressure on the quarterback as well. So this isn't the matchup where I am looking to throw Henry Ruggs into my flex.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. I don't remember which one of you guys talked about Mike Evans maybe letting him go shopping him. Jason, were you the one who brought that up a couple days ago? I think I'm on board with you. He's 29th in targets right now, second in touchdowns, side with Cole Beasley, Travis Fulgham in targets this year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's, he's been propped up by touchdowns and he's a guy that can do that the whole season. It's not something where it's like because he's had touchdowns, they're going to go away, they're going to regress and you need to get rid of them. We've seen him several seasons with double digit touchdowns, but you need to understand that in those games he doesn't get a touchdown. He's going to be straight up garbage. And when you compare the games that he has played with Chris Godwin, I mean he's capping out at two catches. That's not the. And he's got a big name so I think you can flip him for something more reliable, more consistent.

[Andy Holloway]

Are we going to see the 2019 version of Chris Godwin at some point this year? Is this an opportunity for him this week? I mean his highest fantasy finish on the year is 22 right now. Dealt with the injuries, has played three games though and I mean it's just disappointing right now for fantasy players.

[Jason Moore]

I think that this could be the game he gets on track. He's, you know, he has a game removed now from returning from the injury. Give him a, give him a little bit of time there to get more involved.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. You're always playing Darren Waller. What about Gronkowski in this matchup?

[Jason Moore]

It's interesting. The matchup isn't great. Raiders are 10th against fantasy wide receivers right now. Actually tied with the Buccaneers. But he is getting more involved. He had the touchdown last Week, he had. He had another end zone target as well, where Tom Brady just missed. I can't remember if it was Gronk or Brady, but my memory is Brady just missed him for a second touchdown. So while guys like Scotty Miller are fading into the. Into the dust, and Gronkowski is starting to get things going, which it's not. It's not. It's not that shocking that he is doing that now. Like, at the beginning of the year, they weren't asking him to do a lot. He was a dude who had not played football in over a year on a brand new team. So the fact that you lose O.J.

[Mike Wright]

Howard.

[Jason Moore]

You lost O.J. howard. Yeah. That's an excellent point as well. Now you have more opportunities for him, so it makes sense that he is starting to get more involved.

[Andy Holloway]

Over the last four games. His target pace on the year is 94.

[Mike Wright]

That's. That's a great number for a tight end. Yeah. I mean, Gronk is someone that you can start as well as anybody out there off of waivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Although, would you play him over Everett if Everett was alone?

[Mike Wright]

No, no. If Everett was alone, I think he's a smash play.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you saw him jump up to 29% of the targets last week. That's a. That's an incredible number.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we've got the Chiefs Broncos game to get into.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

You might want to update your beliefs on Joe Mixon. Andy declared out, out. Adam Schefter reporting.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I'm going to officially change my projection for Joe Mixon.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Actually, no, I'm not. Because I said if he's active playing and he's not, that's. That's big news.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

So Geo Bernard, by this.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, by this time, he's been picked up in every league. If he's. If he's available in anybody's league, you must pick him up. But he's a great start. I think.

[Andy Holloway]

You do?

[Mike Wright]

I do. I. You. When you have a backup like Giovanni Bernard coming in who has proven capable in the past and they don't really have anybody to share the work, I mean, he won't be getting 100%, but a lot of times when those Backups come in, they get even more work than the starter got because they are the only capable backup.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you ready for. Are you ready for Samaj A.P. ryan?

[Mike Wright]

I am.

[Jason Moore]

Oh man. The pain bot.

[Andy Holloway]

The pain bot plus Travion Williams. Maybe.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe a little bit of both.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe GEO hasn't looked spry in a long, long time. So count if he doesn't catch the ball. Hey, honestly, he's identical to what Boston Scott was yesterday. In my opinion. That's how I would project them both. I think they're both not great runners and they're both very capable in the passing game. So that's how I'd look at it.

[Jason Moore]

He is worth a start to me. He jumps up into the running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Two area, takes on Cleveland. All right, well, no mixing instead of Joe mixing. That's that. All right. The Chiefs at 5 and 1 the Broncos after the big win over New England last week, the McManus victory, the Chiefs are nine and a half point road favorites in this one. 46 point over under.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think that strategy is going to work this week.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, at the end of the day, they are not going to be able to score enough points. I mean, that's just what it comes down to. You're the Broncos are not going to be able to score enough points against the Chiefs in this game. Don't worry. No, almost upset coming here for Drew Lock and Co. Mahomes is 5 and oh versus Denver. In his career, it's, I don't know, 46 point over under. That's not a lot. That puts 27 points on the chief side, 18 on the Broncos side. Melvin Gordon didn't play last week, so he's fresh.

[Jason Moore]

He's ready to go.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I guess you're playing Melvin Gordon, but Philip Lindsay looked good.

[Jason Moore]

Of course you are playing Melvin Gordon. But you have to remember back to week one, Philip Lindsay was getting opportunities. So we haven't. Unfortunately, we haven't been able to see the true timeshare between Melvin Gordon and Philip Lindsay. Lindsay is going to be he's going to take into the fantasy ceiling of Melvin Gordon. So yeah, you are playing Gordon, but you aren't getting those couple weeks of workhorse volume that you were getting while Phil Flindsie was out.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. We don't know on the other side of the ball whether Le'Veon Bell will make his debut in this game. And if he does, are you willing to take the risk On Flexicam, Clyde Edwards Allaire was outstanding and the Broncos defensive free Runt is out is great against the run.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they have been phenomenal against the run. I don't expect Le'Veon Bell, if he is active, to get more than seven or eight touches total. And when you're doing that against this great defense in a divisional matchup that, you know, look, I realize that Denver is a team right now that is hurting and the arrow is not pointing up and of course you're facing the defending super bowl champs. But, you know, I do think it's going to be a little bit closer of a game. You know, I wouldn't call it my almost upset because I don't know how Denver really scores a lot.

[Jason Moore]

Noah Fanta's back.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, having no offhand and Melvin Gordon is certainly going to help me better than it was last week.

[Andy Holloway]

For what it's worth, in those five games that Mahomes has played against Denver, Kansas City's never scored more than 30 points in any of those five games. And the defense for Denver did look. So I don't disagree with you that it could be, you know, lower scoring which will make it closer. But I just don't know if the Broncos can keep up.

[Mike Wright]

Supposed to be a very cold weather game in the 20s. If it were to drop a few more degrees, that's where you start to see fantasy actually take a turn and go into the running game and away from the passing game once it gets, you know, below the 20s. Right now it's projected to be 23 degrees.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, it's 93 degrees out here in Arizona right now. But love Bell not worthy of, you know, we'll see if he takes away from Clyde on third downs. Goal line. It's almost, you know, if Bell's active, we're all observing what this backfield breakdown is going to be.

[Jason Moore]

If he's active. I'm still starting Clyde Edwards away. Clyde Edwards, Larry, the way I would be starting him otherwise.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I've been defending Tim Patrick. We've got Tim Patrick and Jerry Judy. Tim Patrick 80% snap count compared to 69% for Judge Judy. Nice red zone touchdowns. Patrick has two. None for Judy. Top 36 weeks. Patrick has three, Judy has one. Target shares are similar. Judy is slightly ahead over the last two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Tim Patrick is averaging a 27% target share though, which is super nice. The question though for Tim Patrick is what happens now that Noah fantas back?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think anything.

[Jason Moore]

You think you'll still be that involved because Noah Fant has been out two. Is it two weeks or Is he missed three.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, they heavily targeted the tight end position last week without Noah Fant.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I guess, you know, they. Alberto.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Showed up.

[Andy Holloway]

They involved him. So I don't think anything really changes there. But.

[Jason Moore]

So are you playing? Let's just go within the this game. Tim Patrick as your fringe flex upside play or DeMarcus Robinson from Kansas City who was. He was on the field a ton. We all hoped that. That McColl Hardman will be the one who got on the field more, take things up with opportunities. But Demarcus Robinson, 34 routes run last week.

[Mike Wright]

He.

[Jason Moore]

He was involved.

[Mike Wright]

He.

[Jason Moore]

So between those two guys, where are you going? I know the production has been with Patrick the last couple of weeks. Getting over that Hondo.

[Andy Holloway]

That's where I'm going.

[Jason Moore]

But in this match, are you going Patrick?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would go with Patrick. I mean, game script, they're going to have to throw the football. Patrick has been great. Him and Judy, I don't look at them very differently from one another as a. As a spot start. But Patrick, two straight weeks of over 100.

[Jason Moore]

Jason Tim Patrick or Jerry Judy?

[Mike Wright]

Jerry Judy.

[Andy Holloway]

Why?

[Mike Wright]

Because I love him. I think he's great. We've got one game back from the injury with Drew Locke. It was against the New England Patriots where they're shutting down the number one option. And they saw Judy as the number one option. Regardless of what we saw, they let Tim Patrick beat him.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, they didn't let Tim Patrick beat him. He beat him. I'm not saying they're like, let Travis Fulghum beat him. He beat him.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. But I'm saying they focused their energy on Jerry Judy.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. I mean, I can't really argue with. Because I love him, so I'll let it go.

[Jason Moore]

I like the honesty.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, sure. I mean, Jerry Judy has one game, one game all year where you were happy. You started him. It was because of a bomb touchdown pass. But would you play TIM PATRICK OVER DeMarcus Robinson?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Travis Kelsey. Yep. Noah Fant should be back.

[Jason Moore]

Full practice and I'm playing him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Your confidence in Noah Fant is. I feel like I had it in the off season. But you have exceeded.

[Jason Moore]

I stole it.

[Andy Holloway]

You have exceeded us.

[Jason Moore]

Shang Tsung. I've stolen your soul.

[Andy Holloway]

See, I thought Albert O looked. He did.

[Jason Moore]

Alberto is banged up. Yeah, he. He. The report is that he's on track to play. But you combine that with no offense is the guy. He's. He's the main tight end for this team.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. The San Francisco 49ers at 3 and 3 take on the 2 and 3 New England Patriots this week. Patriots are two point home favorites against the 49ers. This game has a minuscule 43 and a half point over under. Got a couple of defenses. San Francisco took such a, a movement forward on that defensive side of the ball last week getting back Mosley. It changed a lot for what they were able to do because they had been kind of beat up over the past few weeks. New England's passing game hasn't looked great. I think that, you know, this line, the 43 and a half really limits what we're going to see fantasy wise in this game. And I wouldn't be surprised if this is a lower. Like I would take the under, I think.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I completely agree. You have two great defenses. You have two of the teams with the slowest pace of play. These are teams that run the ball. One does it with their quarterback, the other does it with a slew of running backs. And you know, with, with Raheem Mostert being out of the game, I don't expect the San Francisco 49ers run game to be anywhere near as effective. So yeah, this, this projects to be a low scoring, poor fantasy output game. If you wanted to pivot off of Cam, this would be the type of game that you would want to do that. I still think he's somewhat safe because of his rushing floor. But you know, Jimmy Garoppolo can have big games and bad games. This does not appear to be a Jimmy Garoppolo game.

[Jason Moore]

So if your, your confidence in the, the run game is a little hesitant on this matchup, what about the confidence in their alternate run game which is where they just throw the ball backwards to guys like Debo and Brandon Iukin?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, I think that's.

[Jason Moore]

Are you playing Debo?

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm not playing Debo. I'm not playing Ayukin. I'm not Iuk out for this game. I don't want the passing game or, or the running. I know we've talked a lot about Jerick McKinnon and whether we believe he will get the work. What is, is Jeff Wilson going to be active? If he is, will Jamaichael Hasty be involved? At the end of the day, all the arguments for or against McKinnon, the four arguments still have a low ceiling in this matchup. I am on the McKinnon side, but I don't expect a phenomenal game this week in this matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm not excited about many of the Options in this one, I would play Devo Samuel. I'd be willing to play him. I know he's going to have six to eight opportunities. George Kittle, of course. But I can't find anybody on the New England side that I want to start.

[Mike Wright]

No, I mean James White in a pinch. Because if you're in a PPR league you can get 10 points.

[Andy Holloway]

Can I unstart Devonta Freeman from last night and put like James White in? Because it's got to be better.

[Jason Moore]

Probably will be the difficulty with White and Harris. It's. It's game script pick which one's going to happen. Are there. Do you think the Patriots will be up then Damien Harris is going to see a bunch of opportunities. If they're down, it's James White and this is a tricky one to project.

[Andy Holloway]

Can we, can we add a Thursday night whoops situation? Mulligan, like in our league. So like if you start somebody on Thursday and then they lay an egg, you can, you can change them out so you're not depressed going into the weekend.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think you can do that with a Thursday, Thursday game. But you could make a universal rule where every team gets one whoopsie bench. Whoopsie. That would be a fun rule to me. Like I wouldn't want it in, you know, our league of record. But if you're playing in a fun league where you, you get one Mulligan every week on a start sit decision.

[Andy Holloway]

I can't believe we never even talked about Evan Ingram's disaster of a. That's true, Mike. I've been keeping you in a good mood. I'm sorry to bring.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no.

[Mike Wright]

It's.

[Jason Moore]

I figured out what happened with Evan Ingram because they've just been throwing him these low average depth of targets. Targets I have like just absolutely mismanaging. Evan Ingram. Ingram was running deep, was open because he's a super athletic tight end who can get open against that type of coverage and he dropped a pass that.

[Andy Holloway]

Would have won the game.

[Jason Moore]

It would have won the game. I think Evan Ingram was just so surprised that he actually received that target.

[Andy Holloway]

Downfield that he just wasn't prepared to catch the ball. So we're back to apologizing for him.

[Jason Moore]

That's right.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, God.

[Jason Moore]

That's right.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Jason, I know what you were feeling when you saw that play.

[Jason Moore]

Jason just hates Evan Ingram because he drafted him.

[Mike Wright]

No, no. I hated Evan Ingram prior to drafting him. And I mean I. And then I. And then I stupidly drafted him and I quickly got out I mean, I don't. He hasn't hurt my fantasy roster at all this year because I realized what a mistake I made early on and said, not this time. It never happened.

[Andy Holloway]

Jacksonville at one and five, the Los Angeles Chargers at one and four. Chargers seven and a half point favorites in this one. A 49 point over under. I find that line a little bit interesting. It seems maybe a bit excessive.

[Jason Moore]

I'm excited for this game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It should be a fun one. We've had. We've talked about a lot of the players in this one, from Justin Jackson to DJ Chark, Hunter Henry.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, now that Ryan Fitzpatrick.

[Jason Moore]

Hunter. Dragon Rider.

[Andy Holloway]

That's exactly. I actually went from Viking to like, how to train a dragon real quick. Like, that's my exposure to. I mean, those are like Vikings, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

They wear this dragon. Vikings. Yeah. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Climb aboard, Hunter.

[Mike Wright]

Now that Ryan Fitzpatrick is no longer a starter, this is like your two favorite quarterbacks in the league. You're all about that Herbert life right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And I mean, you're always going to be on Team Minshew.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

And this is more than just because I love him. I mean, Justin Herbert, 300 yards or multiple touchdowns in four or five games.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Including two incredibly tough road matchups with Tampa Bay. And.

[Mike Wright]

And what's insane is as a rookie, he's doing this on third downs. His. His third down. Passing touchdowns, yards per completion, 74% completion rate on third down. They are. They're leading the NFL as a rookie. It's incredible. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And, yeah, I like what the coaching staff is doing. They're trusting him. They're letting. They're not just, oh, it's third and 12 draw play. It's. Let's let him throw the ball down the field because we have Keenan Allen, we have Mike Williams. We have players that can compete at the point of the cat. We have Hunter. Throw to Hunter. No, but I love Mike Williams opportunity in this game.

[Jason Moore]

Imagine your catch radius. If you could be on a dragon, it would increase.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think the dragon could catch.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

You.

[Jason Moore]

The dragon doesn't have to catch. Jason. I'm riding the dragon. Do you think the dragon's riding me?

[Mike Wright]

I think that if someone threw you the ball behind you while you're flying in one direction, you're not going to catch that ball just because you're on a dragon.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just saying vertical.

[Andy Holloway]

Vertical catcher.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I've derailed it.

[Andy Holloway]

We haven't really spent a lot of time on drag and Catch Radi Radii. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Justin Jackson, my start of the week at the running back position. He was limited in practice on Thursday, which makes me feel a little uncomfortable, but if he's out there, he's the better player.

[Jason Moore]

So with him being limited and the matchup still being, you know, solid, the Jacksonville Jaguars are 27th against fantasy running backs right now. Is Joshua Kelly move into more of a stronger flex consideration?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Assuming Jackson is limited again today, he would. All right, Keenan Allen, you start him. Mike Williams, I think you should. He is undervalued right now. I know that he has an extreme kind of range of outcomes historically, but what more do you like? I mean, he's got a great matchup in this game. He's coming off a great game. He seems to be a better target for what Justin Herbert's gifts seem to be.

[Jason Moore]

Jason, Mike Williams or Jerry Judy.

[Mike Wright]

Mike Williams, the range of outcomes is obviously, as Andy just said, they're very wide. He could be the wide receiver 4 on a week or the wide receiver 104. But that's the role that he plays. And there are always fantasy options. Years past, it was Marvin Jones, where you need a big time performance. You put that type of a player in your lineup, there's not a lot of guys that can walk away with the upside that Mike Williams has. And with Justin Herbert throwing a. An absolute beautiful deep ball, I really like what Mike Williams has been doing with him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And this is very much like a Minnesota situation from last year where it's like the ball's going to Thielen or Diggs. I mean, the ball is going to Mike Williams or is going to Keenan Allen. And when Williams was out there in week one, he had a 30% target share. Last week, I know Allen got hurt. It was 24%. Those are the two players that are going to get the ball. And then the question is, you know, Mike, you've talked about Gardner. You like Gardner this week, DJ Chark being back, it raises Gardner's ceiling. This game should be. Be competitive. It should be a game that isn't, you know, the. The Patriots game at a 43 point over under. I think we get to that 49, 50 points or more. And we need it to. I mean, if you want Herbert to throw the football, you need Jacksonville to do its job, Right? James Robinson, you've been playing him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's a weekly start, Chark.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason started the week, so. Yep. And then are you taking a shot with any other deeper. You know, if this game is If Gardner is going to be good, do you take a shot with Chanel to Cole?

[Mike Wright]

I think you can if you project this game to be back and forth and Gardner to have a good game. They've had fantasy relevant weeks and you would, you know, there's certainly players that you could find that are not as good as Keelan, Cole and Chenault from what they've been producing. I would also throw out James O'Shaughnessy as a. If you are really struggling at tight end, you have just garbage in there. I know it's a name you probably aren't familiar with, but Tyler Ifert might miss. The matchup is great and I could, you know, we talk about those rando waiver wire pickup tight ends that have the highest chance of touchdowns and maybe this is more for a DFS type of pick. I know that our DFS pod with the Borgogan, they like James O'Shaughnessy as that DFS punt play of the week. So you might want to throw him in the lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's who I used when I did the cage match with smiths. I use O'Shaughnessy to afford some bigger players because he is like 2,600 free. Sunday night Football. The Cardinals are at home taking on the Seattle Seahawks off a buy who are five and oh, and the Cardinals get to play primetime a couple weeks in a row here. 56 point over under Seahawks, three and a half point road favorites. I think that we're going to see some fireworks in this ball game.

[Jason Moore]

That's fun.

[Andy Holloway]

Which is great for fantasy because you're playing Kyler, you're playing Russell, you're playing Carson, and I think you're playing Kenyan Drake. The opportunities, they've been there and his production has been there in several games. So, you know, whether he's the butt of jokes or not. I don't know if you heard his mom. His mom, you know, weighed in, weighed in and had the same. Had the same thoughts we did. You're running side to side too much, Kenyan. You should go towards the end zone.

[Jason Moore]

It's a good piece of advice.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. If Daniel Jones mom had called in, she would have said, finish the run, finish the run.

[Jason Moore]

She would have said, slow down.

[Andy Holloway]

He could have too. That's the worst part. He ran so fast. He had a nice lead. He could have slowed down.

[Mike Wright]

Do you think he thought he could start skipping? And then he was like, I don't know how to skip. Oh no, I've made a bad mistake.

[Andy Holloway]

I wish he just committed to the roll because if you. If you come out, if you fall and you roll. He could have rolled all the way into the end zone before he. Before he was touched. Just roll, roll, roll.

[Jason Moore]

I think he was.

[Mike Wright]

That would have been the coolest touchdown of all time. Just somersault judo roll. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

He could have somersaulted and got back up.

[Jason Moore]

I think he was pretty surprised of how open the running. The run actually was.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. That was special.

[Jason Moore]

We've. Look, we've all outrun our legs before.

[Andy Holloway]

That is. That is accurate. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

It's not a fun feeling.

[Andy Holloway]

No. And for days. You're gonna be sore for days.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Hopkins didn't practice Wednesday and Thursday. I think a lot. This was one we could have brought up in news. We'll bring it up now. It's the ankle injury he has. He had three straight do not practices before suiting up in week four. It's the Sunday night game and they played Monday. They played Monday night. So you knew he was going to get some time off after the Monday night game.

[Mike Wright]

Doesn't worry me in the slightest.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'll say this. I mean, as a Hopkins manager, I added an insurance policy to my bench today.

[Jason Moore]

Was it Kirk?

[Andy Holloway]

It wasn't because Kirk wasn't available as Andy Isabella. Just an emergency. What happens at the last minute? You know, Hopkins getting this game flexed out, gets a few more hours out of it. I don't imagine he's going to miss a prime time when we have the precedent that he's played without practicing. Do you guys have any other expectations?

[Mike Wright]

No, I think you just laid it out great. This injury. He didn't practice last week, played, and then he's not practicing.

[Andy Holloway]

He's going to play Tyler Locky, DK Metcalf. They're in your lineup. There's really not a lot to kind of debate in this matchup outside of maybe Kirk being a flex play.

[Mike Wright]

That's the question is, should people put Kirk in your lineup? Are. Do you feel like you're chasing points or have they finally got it together? This is a game with a very high over under. Seattle has been giving it up to wide receivers. I think Christian Kirk projects as a pretty decent play. And if you look at, you know, some of the other options we've been talking about, Leviska, Chenault, Keelan Cole. I would rather play the matchup here with Christian Kirk as the wide receiver, too, with a somewhat hobbled or, you know, limited DeAndre Hopkins against Seattle than I would play Levisca or Keena Cole.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I could see that. I mean, Kirk. Kirk had the big play last week. They didn't have to complete a lot of passes. Seems like he's healthy.

[Jason Moore]

You still have to get the big play. I mean, his usage is just. It's not at a level that you want. The 13% of the targets against Dallas, his. His high on the year is the 19% against the Jets. So I'm. I feel like Kirk is. He's a siren this week, and I'm not going to crash my boat into the rocks.

[Andy Holloway]

Well said.

[Jason Moore]

Look, people stop by for the mythological jokes.

[Andy Holloway]

If you drop a mythological kind of metaphor, I am willing. I won't fight back against.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

It wins.

[Jason Moore]

I love.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I don't think.

[Jason Moore]

I didn't realize.

[Andy Holloway]

If you had gone mythological, Jason, with.

[Mike Wright]

Your Jerry Judy take, it would have been far better.

[Andy Holloway]

I would have totally.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, that wasn't a joke. That was a metaphor. It was beautiful.

[Andy Holloway]

Like. Like when I saw Jerry Judy's like, fantasy finishes, it was like a Medusa situation. Oof. I had to look away or turn to stone.

[Mike Wright]

I get.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm just staring at him because I want to see what his.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, look, you know, when Hercules was a baby.

[Jason Moore]

There we go.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You saw the talent, but he couldn't realize it yet. He still had to grow up. He was a young man, but once he was, you know, older than he dominated.

[Andy Holloway]

Hercules, Hercules. All right. You're not messing around with tight ends in this game, are you?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, that's one. One bit of advice there. The Bears 5 and 1, taking on the Rams Monday Night Football. Rams are 4 and 2. The Bears just keep winning football games. The Rams.

[Mike Wright]

Bears are a good team.

[Jason Moore]

I know they are.

[Mike Wright]

They really are a good team with a poor quarterback, whoever it is, leading the way.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And the Rams have had a good season so far as well. 4 and 2. They are favored by 5 and a half at home in this game.

[Jason Moore]

Nick Foles revenge.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a 45 point over under.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no. Oh, no. Your eyes are telling me something.

[Andy Holloway]

You know what?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Andy's almost upset of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't know if we'd have one this week, but five and a half, that's too much here.

[Jason Moore]

I actually agree with you.

[Andy Holloway]

And if Darrell Henderson is beat up, hurt in the running game, though, you know, everything's been predicated on that success. Do I think Malcolm Brown against the. The Bears defensive front is going to set up the passing game that hasn't really existed this year? No, I don't. So I'm not playing Jared Goff, how.

[Mike Wright]

Surprised were you last week at how the Rams, who had looked so good, were getting drubbed by San Francisco? San Francisco just completely dominating both sides of the ball in that game, in that boring, boring game. And that's when I came to realize, like, three of their previous four games were against the NFC East. They played Philadelphia, New York, Washington. I think that they might not be as good as they looked in that, you know, previous month. And the 49ers sort of exposed them. So I like this almost upset.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Robert Woods, Cooper Cup. You've been playing them, you'll keep playing them. Tyler Higby, I think he's out of lineups at this point. Gerald Everett could be that surprise start if Higby's. Even if he's not. I mean, if he's questionable, the amount of blocking he's done, if you need a dart throw at tight end, I don't think Everett's the end of the world here. In a game where Henderson could be banged up, the running game might not be productive. The one place that the Bears have been more vulnerable is against the tight end position.

[Jason Moore]

I made the choice last night in our Dynasty League. I benched Evan Ingram for Gerald Everett.

[Andy Holloway]

How you feel about that TBD after.

[Jason Moore]

That, after that drop?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I know.

[Jason Moore]

Felt a little bit better. If he would have caught that pass, I would. Yeah, I feel pretty bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Yeah. It's funny how one play, right. I mean, it defines the entire perception of the game. Evan Ingram catches that ball. What is that? A 25 yard catch. Probably runs a little bit with it afterwards.

[Jason Moore]

He certainly would have.

[Mike Wright]

Boston Scott catches that one pass.

[Andy Holloway]

I know. Well, it's funny, we were talking before about the Boston Scott catch. He does that in the first quarter. You know, you're not happy as a. As an opposing fantasy manager, but it's like, okay, it happened in the beginning of the game. Somehow with the clock running out.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You're like. It seems less fair.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it's because of the call of saying that you don't expect a big game. And then. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.

[Jason Moore]

You're wrong.

[Mike Wright]

You're flat wrong.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. David Montgomery is a running back. He plays football for the Bears, and he does get 18.3 opportunities per game. The Rams giving up the fourth highest run success rate, which he'll need.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But again, this is.

[Mike Wright]

He's an okay play.

[Andy Holloway]

He's an okay play.

[Mike Wright]

He's an okay play. Every week. We don't need to talk about the matchup. We don't. I mean, look, it doesn't matter whether he plays a really weak defense, a really strong defense. He's the type of player that gets a ton of volume and does the same thing with it every week, which is false. Forward for a couple of yards, catches a few balls and finishes. You know, if you look at his consistency, not been bad. You know, he was 15. He was the running back 15 two weeks ago. He's a running back 14 last week. Maybe it's, maybe it's a little bit lower in this game. Maybe he's, you know, the running back 20. But he is a solid fantasy RB2 or someone you could plug in your flex.

[Jason Moore]

Since the Tariq Cohen injury, he is averaging nearly five receptions. He's. He's safe. He's. It's not fun, it's not a delight to plug David Montgomery into your lineup, but you just have to do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The catches are necessary due to the three yards per carry over the last four games.

[Jason Moore]

It was in last week, 24 opportunities. That was by far the most he's received this season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's just a matter of can they get, get ahead in this game?

[Mike Wright]

He's a perfect. He's a perfect, like, icon to represent the Bears because he's not good, but he's pretty good. But he's, but he's good enough for fantasy. It's like the Bears are like, man, they're not a great team, but they're winning all their games, so they're, they're solid.

[Andy Holloway]

Jimmy Graham, red zone looks coming his way each and every week. Alan Robinson. Yeah, you're playing him. Otherwise, I think that wraps. Wraps it up.

[Jason Moore]

It does.

[Mike Wright]

Prop it like it's hot. Presented by Monkey Knife Fight.

[Jason Moore]

We have to have Jason kick it off.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm going to start with David Montgomery and his prop of. Let's see here, 57 and a half rushing yards. Now, we said you're going to have him in your lineup. You're going to start him, he's going to be okay. But it's not going to come from rushing yards because he's not very good at rushing yards over the last four weeks. Here are his totals.

[Jason Moore]

He's not good at rushing yards.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You know, his grammar is inconsequential when you're talking about David Montgomery. He had 45 rushing yards, 27 rushing yards, 29 rushing yards and rushing yards. So this is, this is someone that is not getting very close to this line. I don't think he is good enough against this Rams defense. I am taking less than 57 and a half rushing yards.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I'm going Matthew Stafford More than 301 passing yards. That's where the line is. Atlanta has given up 300 yards to opposing quarterbacks. Let me do the math. 100% of the time, every game, 300 or more. So I have been very bullish on Matthew Stafford and Kenny Golladay this week. Stafford gets it done. More than more than 301 passing yards.

[Jason Moore]

And I'm going, surprise, surprise.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh my.

[Jason Moore]

Look, I'm going Kyle Allen. His more or less is 242 yards and I'm taking the more. He's playing the Dallas Cowboys. He hit. This is Kyle Allen. He hit 280 passing yards last week against the Giants and the Cowboys, look, they're, they're friendly against the passing game. I expect the Dallas Cowboys to have a much better performance this week, driving Kyle Allen to have to throw the ball more. And I think he can pass that 242.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. These props have been very fun this year and you can check them out. Monkey Knife Fight has tons of these more or less props. We break them down every week. If you want to play, go to ballers picks.com use the code ballers. They give you 100% deposit. Match up to $50. That's ballerspicks.com if you want to play along. It's a lot of fun.

[Jason Moore]

It's fun, man. Enhance weekend.

[Andy Holloway]

Enhance. All right, that'll do it. For today's episode of the show, a reminder. Mike will be live one hour before kickoff. Check it out. He'll help you out. No Joe mixing, huh?

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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