Week 7 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Monday Punday

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: Week 7 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Monday Punday
Release Date: October 21, 2019

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Introduction

In their celebratory 800th episode, the Fantasy Footballers—Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright—delve deep into Week 7's fantasy football action. Balancing humor with expert analysis, they provide listeners with comprehensive insights, standout performances, and disappointing underachievers from the week.

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Monday Punday

Kicking off the episode with their signature humor, the hosts engage in Monday Punday, a segment filled with pun-laden one-liners reacting to the weekend's games.

• Andy Holloway (04:10): "Devin. Single carry."
  (Referring to Devin Singletary’s limited usage)

• Jason Moore (04:14): "It works. But it's not true. I believe he had seven carries."
  (Debating the actual usage versus perception)

The segment highlights notable injuries and performance quirks, setting a lighthearted tone before diving into deeper analyses.

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Weekly Rewind

Injuries and Player Availability

The hosts discuss significant injuries impacting Week 7:

• Matt Ryan’s ankle injury was quickly ruled out (07:21).
• Will Fuller exited in the first quarter due to a hamstring injury (08:49).
• David Johnson saw limited action, raising concerns about his future availability (13:18).

Andy Holloway (07:06) emphasizes the uncertainty surrounding Adam Thielen’s availability:
"He's on pace to be without Adam Thielen."

Quarterback Performances

A focus on quarterback play reveals fluctuating performances:

• Aaron Rodgers delivered a stellar game, throwing for five touchdowns (19:41).

  • Jason Moore (20:01): "He's a quarterback who can take over a game when he wants to."

• Kirk Cousins and Matthew Stafford both threw four touchdowns, showcasing their potential as reliable fantasy options.

  • Andy Holloway (21:59): "Kirk Cousins has been on fire with 976 passing yards and 10 touchdowns in the last three games."

The discussion underscores the importance of selecting quarterbacks with high upside, especially in the absence of elite options like Patrick Mahomes.

Player Highlights and Team Performances

• Lamar Jackson’s explosive running ability continues to dominate both real and fantasy fields.

  • Andy Holloway (26:48): "Lamar Jackson is up there as a runner, different from any quarterback we've ever seen."

• The Arizona Cardinals’ struggling offense, particularly their reliance on running backs like Chase Edmonds and Melvin Gordon, is critiqued.

  • Mike Wright (30:27): "Melvin Gordon does not look special right now. He cost them the game twice."

Field Conditions and Game Impact

Adverse weather conditions, especially heavy rain, significantly affected player performances and game outcomes.

• Andy Holloway (09:33): "The wettest field I've seen in a long time."

• The hosts debate the impact of weather, with Jason Moore suggesting that unlike wind, heavy rain alone doesn't typically hinder fantasy points.

Team Strategies and Coaching Decisions

The Bears’ offensive struggles under Matt Nagy are highlighted, questioning coaching decisions and their impact on fantasy outcomes.

• Andy Holloway (43:07): "Matt Nagy is the least trustworthy coach in football. Does he belong?"

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Stud Muffins

Highlighting the week's top performers, the Stud Muffins segment celebrates standout players who exceeded expectations.

• Aaron Rodgers:

  • Andy Holloway (19:46): "25 for 31, 429. Threw in a rushing TD just as a bonus."
  • Jason Moore (20:25): "He is a quarterback that can take over a game when he wants to."

• Kirk Cousins and Matthew Stafford:
  Both quarterbacks threw for four touchdowns, solidifying their value in fantasy lineups.

• Jared Goff:
  Despite doubts, Goff delivered a high-scoring game against the Falcons.

  • Andy Holloway (21:07): "This is a quarterback who can take over a game when he wants to."

• Lamar Jackson:
  Continues to impress with his dual-threat capabilities.

  • Jason Moore (26:02): "It's so fun to watch him."

• Austin Ekeler:
  Emerged as a reliable asset in the Chargers' offense.

  • Andy Holloway (28:41): "On pace as a receiver for 112 catches, 1115 yards, and nine touchdowns."

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Stinkers of the Week

Conversely, the Stinkers of the Week spotlight underperforming players whose lackluster performances hindered their fantasy teams.

• Chase Edmonds:
  Despite high expectations, inconsistent performances and challenging matchups result in frustration.

  • Andy Holloway (40:11): "Chase Edmonds, Marvin Jones. These were guys that were... sob stories."

• Matt Ryan:
  Ankle injury and subpar performance lead to skepticism about his future with the Falcons.

  • Andy Holloway (15:18): "Matt Ryan hasn't led them to glory. Dan Quinn will be on the way out soon enough."

• Russell Wilson:
  Disappointing game performance despite a strong team.

  • Andy Holloway (40:35): "Carson Wentz, Stinkers at the quarterback position."

• David Montgomery:
  Limited usage and poor performance raise questions about his role.

  • Andy Holloway (41:53): "Does he belong on your bench as opposed to dropping him?"

• Marvin Jones:
  Over-reliance by the Bears leads to diminished opportunities.

  • Andy Holloway (48:08): "Marvin Jones caught four touchdowns, sidelining Kenny Golladay."

• Evan Ingram:
  Expected to shine but faltered due to injuries and poor decision-making.

  • Andy Holloway (51:29): "Evan Ingram missed time with an injury."

• Other Notable Underperformers:

  • Mark Ingram: "12 for 46, no touchdowns."
  • Kenny Golladay: "1 for 21 on two targets."

The segment underscores the volatile nature of fantasy football, where even high-potential players can falter due to various factors like injuries, team strategies, and matchup difficulties.

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Conclusion

In this milestone episode, the Fantasy Footballers provide invaluable insights into Week 7's fantasy landscape. From celebrating exceptional performances to critiquing disappointing outputs, the trio equips listeners with the knowledge to navigate their fantasy teams effectively. Their blend of humor, expert analysis, and community engagement continues to make the Fantasy Footballers a premier podcast for enthusiasts aiming to excel in their leagues.

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Notable Quotes:

• Andy Holloway (07:06): "He's on pace to be without Adam Thielen."
• Jason Moore (19:46): "He is a quarterback that can take over a game when he wants to."
• Mike Wright (16:56): "Chase Edmonds looks like he fits this scheme a lot better."
• Andy Holloway (27:07): "Lamar Jackson is built in a way that's different than even the running quarterbacks that we have."
• Jason Moore (20:55): "I have a hard time believing that he is back, but I have."

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foot clan. This is show 800. And so I just. I just wanted to take a minute and say thank you for supporting this podcast. All of our loyal listeners, all of the foot [e-mail] we appreciate you. We get to do something very, very fun each and every day, and it's because of you. So we just wanted to say thank you for 800 great shows. I hope we can give you at least a million more. Foreign.

[Jason Moore]

To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, coming to you from Pristine Auction.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, welcome in.

[Mike Wright]

Andy's back.

[Jason Moore]

Hey.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome into the show. Monday, October 21st, I am back.

[Mike Wright]

Sort of.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I made. So I suspect I made some very unsavory road trip snack decisions on the way back.

[Jason Moore]

That is a terrible adjective because I'll bet they were very savory.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true. They were delicious. The point is, I got myself nice and sick for the weekend. I got back from fall break with the family. Thank you, by the way. Feeling very insecure about the amount of best friend talk I had to listen to each and every day.

[Mike Wright]

I did tell you it was of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Right. And I was grateful for the time we had Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you did. It's just the week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But now, Andy, who's your best friend?

[Andy Holloway]

Let me put this letter away. I'm going to go ahead and withdraw my resignation. No, it's good to be back. I got to watch a lot of football yesterday. In between hallucination spells. I was fevered up in bed. But I'm here today. It is show 800, and we've just gone through a heck of a week in fantasy football because I tweeted this out. Scott Barrett was the source of the original tweet. I retweeted it with the hashtag why people quit fantasy football.

[Jason Moore]

I did that last night, which is.

[Andy Holloway]

You quit last night? Yeah. Here's team A. Matt Ryan, David Johnson, Kerryon Johnson, Will Fuller, Tyler Boyd, Evan Ingram. That team scored a total of 16.8 fantasy points. Here's team B. Jacoby Brissette, Chase Edmonds, Latavius Murray, Marvin Jones, Zach Pascal, Rhett Ellison. That team scored 177.8 fantasy points. Mm. So, unfortunately, no matter what you do, sometimes Cliff Kingsbury happens. All right, let's get right into it. You can follow us on twitter @the ffballers. If you want to follow each of us, you can do so Instagram and Twitter, the same handle at andy Holloway, @Jasonfflf. Hitman, the website's the fantasy footballers dot com.

[Mike Wright]

Look, you got to get on the IG. The content is amazing. If you've ever wanted to see me.

[Andy Holloway]

Lay a smooch on a pig, that's on the ig.

[Mike Wright]

And that is not a euphemism. That is not a metaphor. Literally, it's me. It's me smooching a pig, giving a.

[Jason Moore]

Kiss to a hog.

[Andy Holloway]

Most of my posts of late are just my son breaking away for touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that and ice cream.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true. There was a lot of ice. You guys brought that up on the show. There was a lot of ice cream that may have played a part in getting sick as well. You think?

[Jason Moore]

My meals consist of ice cream and I keep coming down with a cold.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's get sophisticated. It's Monday. All right, we've got Monday punday. One liners from the Foot Clan reaction to the weekend. Let's start here. Matt, why? N. Why, why Matthew? Oh, he. He got injured. But come on, that was late carry on my bench the next few weeks.

[Mike Wright]

He also got hurt.

[Andy Holloway]

Carrion Gonson.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Ooh, this is a good one, Devin. Single carry.

[Jason Moore]

It works. But it's not true. I believe he had seven carries.

[Andy Holloway]

Feels like one. Carson Wentz to bed.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he did indeed. For you, Jason. Marv Win Jones.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

It'd be nice if he spaced them out every once in a while, but if you had him, you won't Chased Shredmans. Okay. Shredded the defense. I get it. Marlin Slack.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Ooh. They stacked the box and let Jacoby take over victorious. Murray.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. That was an excellent pivot. That worked out very well.

[Andy Holloway]

It's working out well to play your running backs against the Bears.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, Mark, no hands.

[Jason Moore]

Drew.

[Mike Wright]

That one is vicious and so very true.

[Andy Holloway]

It was a little rainy.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah. Other people could catch.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The itis.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's get back to the sophisticated names. Cliff Dingleberry.

[Jason Moore]

Hanging on.

[Andy Holloway]

Djk. Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That was a jk.

[Andy Holloway]

Kenny. Garbage day. Kenny gone all day, unfortunately. And then my favorite Walla Waller Bills, y'all. It's funny because he had two touchdowns. We're talking about Goo Goo Gachube.

[Mike Wright]

He honestly had more.

[Andy Holloway]

Should have four.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I saw these because I know you've got them on your roster, Mike, and you were. Your reaction to his first touchdown was finally.

[Mike Wright]

Well, look, he was one of those guys where the yardage. A positive regression for touchdowns was going to happen. It happened in a big way. He should have had four. He had a touchdown that was called back on A just a stupid penalty and then had the. The breakaway catch where.

[Jason Moore]

Get them.

[Mike Wright]

Get those legs up, Walrus. I mean, you let a guy ankle tackle you when you're 6, 5, 350 pounds.

[Jason Moore]

I don't, I don't know if you are aware of our situation in the NFL League 1, Andy, where we are playing in the celebrity expert leagues of the NFL where we have of the six weeks, four times finished with the high score and we are redecorating their set.

[Andy Holloway]

At least you're not bragging.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no. I would never do that. We made a boo boo.

[Mike Wright]

We did.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you leave the walrus on the.

[Jason Moore]

Bench because of the injury we had?

[Andy Holloway]

Why didn't you come to me, boys?

[Jason Moore]

Well, it's not like we didn't have a good tight end replacement.

[Andy Holloway]

Who was it? Hunter?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, Hunter Henry was in.

[Andy Holloway]

You tried to ride that wave. He's clearly not on fire. And you put goo goo Gajube on the bench.

[Mike Wright]

We did.

[Andy Holloway]

That must feel gross.

[Mike Wright]

No, I take four.

[Andy Holloway]

Did we lose?

[Jason Moore]

No, we won. But we would have had the high scoring.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so this is a very small.

[Jason Moore]

Great.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's get into the rewind.

[Jason Moore]

Weekly rewind.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. The weekly rewind brought to you by sleeper Adam Thielen exited the game after suffering a hamstring injury on a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

He's got a short week ahead. They play on Thursday Night Football. So I would plan to be without Adam Thielen.

[Andy Holloway]

Actually really curious how we approach Kirk Cousins, man, because he's been just fire four touchdowns. Thielen left early and I wonder if people are going to run away from, you know, kind of staying in the flames with Cousins because Thielen's out and maybe that's a mistake. I would early streaming tight end option Kyle Rudolph had his first touchdown of the year in this game.

[Mike Wright]

Big Irv also caught a few passes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Without Adam Thielen. And if they stick with this passing game, that's going to be important. Matt Ryan injured his ankle. Quickly ruled out. You know, we don't know a lot. No update on the severity. I think he might miss a game, but we'll find out later this week. Matt Ryan hasn't missed a game in a long time.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's one of those players where he's been absolutely nuclear and then you start him with full confidence and you get the worst game imaginable. It's gross.

[Andy Holloway]

It's very ugly in Atlanta right now. They were a 4th down conversion away from 07.

[Jason Moore]

I can't believe that Dan Quinn has not Been fired yet?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he took him to a Super bowl and so you give him, you give him, give him more than seven games.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. You give him complete grace on last season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean I think it's coming. Jason. Be patient.

[Jason Moore]

I will wait no longer.

[Andy Holloway]

Matt Schaub's not going to lead them to glory. Dan Quinn will be on the way out soon enough. Kerryon Johnson did not return after the knee injury. Do we have an update on his status?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, we'll keep you up to date. Will Fuller left in the first quarter, didn't return. Hamstring injury. This is a consistent willfuler problem.

[Mike Wright]

And fun fact. My league of record team had both carry on Johnson and Will Fuller going this past weekend.

[Jason Moore]

There were a lot of early this week stunk because the injuries that happened other than Matt Ryan's they were all early in the game. D.J. you know, gets a carry and then isn't involved Fuller carry on Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

I've never seen lower scores in our league of record waiting until Monday night than this week. I mean there were games like the San Francisco game where basically everybody in it was useless for fantasy purposes. There were a bunch of games tied 10, 10, 12, 12 low scoring games.

[Mike Wright]

The man for fantasy football. Tons of things are very fantastic. Feel unfair. I mean this is just part of the game that we love and you have to accept this. But when the weather comes down like that in Washington where you had reports you knew it was going to be raining and it was going to be downpouring before the game but then it was, well, it should clear up, it should be light during the game and then it turns into an absolute slosh fest.

[Andy Holloway]

That was the wettest field I've seen in a long time.

[Mike Wright]

You those, those guys were on a full slip and slide when they would die.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

If you, if you aren't familiar with what you know weather usually does. Rain does not actually hinder fantasy points. Usually rain is fine even for the passing game. It's wind that comes with the rain. If it's windy that gets in the way of passing games. So you don't really factor that in. Too much rain is not what happened there. Rain was. Rain is one thing that.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, it was there. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

The arc this was. I mean that I don't you say.

[Mike Wright]

Get on the boat, stop playing the game.

[Andy Holloway]

It is important though to know that you can throw out the performances. That's the important thing to do. Like George Kittle is a good example. Like he. They weren't throwing the football. They couldn't do anything. They're in the slosh. They handed him this one sad play. They were on the goal line.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

They did an inside handoff to George Kittle, and he tries to turn the edge and just falls over. I mean, there was no option for him to turn the corner because you need cleats six feet long to turn that corner.

[Jason Moore]

When the game finished and Bosa from the Niners did his belly slide in the water.

[Andy Holloway]

That looked fun.

[Jason Moore]

It looked like a blast. But it reminded me of the Geico commercial where the guy. The soccer game, he does the knee slide, sliding around forever. It was a slip slide. It was unbelievable. So, yeah, throw that game out. It was absolutely ridiculous.

[Mike Wright]

And then you throw the field conditions in. Matt Burrito still could have possibly been okay, except he got taken off for a concussion protocol. Managed to clear that, and then got poked in the eye like, come on, man.

[Andy Holloway]

There were two bad eye pokes this. This week. Evan Ingram got one.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Edo Smith carted off with head and neck injuries. Delaney Walker didn't return against the Chargers. Actually saw Joni Smith do something.

[Mike Wright]

We'll talk more about the Titans, man.

[Jason Moore]

Well, what do we do?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I. I listened to the show, believe it or not, despite how much you guys were loving on each other. And Jay Grizz, who I don't support, you know. No, I love Jay.

[Jason Moore]

He wasn't happy this weekend.

[Andy Holloway]

But there were only a couple things that I disagreed with from a distance while I was eating ice cream. And one was, honestly, the Mariota Tannehill. Take that. It's the same difference to me. And I said this before in the preseason. Yeah, I. It's not the same difference to me. I was very interested in passing options once Tannehill took over. He had a 300 yard plus passing game. The big difference between those two is Ryan Tannehill takes more time to let deep reads develop, and he's got the arm and the willingness to try to go take this job. The team let him do it. He supported, like Corey Davis, had a great game.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, and you had also a career high in catches for AJ AJ Brown.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And then Jonas Smith had a 64 yard game. So it'll be interesting moving forward. The Titans were out there on social media bragging about the passer rating and performance of Ryan Tannehill, which is a sign of things to come.

[Mike Wright]

Why are you putting Mariota in a body bag?

[Andy Holloway]

They tag. They tagged Mariota on it. No, they didn't. They did not. But we'll talk more about that.

[Mike Wright]

Underneath, though, we'll talk.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll see what happens. We got to talk about the. What happened in Arizona.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Because lots of thoughts about that. Basically, David Johnson came in first, nap came off the field. You never saw him again. Really. And this was a really strange situation. So I'm curious where you guys. Are you pure angry here or do you understand the extenuating circumstances of. Look, I don't think David Johnson was going to be active for this game at all. There was no chance of it. Kingsbury came out on Friday and said if the game was today, he wasn't going to play. Yeah, but then DJ Foster got hurt, their other running back got hurt late in the week in practice. And then we're in a situation where, look, you could have. I don't understand the logic of having him active. If you can't play him because you got two running backs, what happens if Chase Edmonds goes out? Do you jeopardize David Johnson's future? But fantasy owners, last week, when it was a late active for David Johnson, he was the bell cap.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

So what do you do?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, you worry a little bit. First you mourn. First you get past your. You put your anger to bed. But you also need to monitor the situation. Adam Schefter reporting that Jay Ajay is working out for the Cardinals on Tuesday and Spencer Ware also scheduled to work out. Now, maybe that's a DJ Foster thing. It's probably a combination of they don't know what they have in David Johnson and D.J. foster's injured, they need depth. But it's not a good thing because if dj, If David Johnson was like, okay, he's totally fine. We just gave him rest. Chase Edmonds was the hot hand. DJs fine and chase Edmonds is great. They wouldn't be desperate to bring in backs to work out. So I think he's not fine exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

Chase Edmonds came out and said it in the post game press conference. Chase said, look, I went over to dj. We both knew you can't play professional football at the running back position like he was. I told him, I'll carry the load. Don't worry about it. We need you. We need you back next week. Now, next week's a tough situation for fantasy owners. Again, you got New Orleans, who's one of the best defenses in football, and then you're going to have.

[Jason Moore]

Especially against the run.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, especially against the run. I mean, for goodness sakes, we'll talk about Matt Nagy, too. But you know, what do you do with these two backs? What if you have David Johnson active again?

[Mike Wright]

Man, if he's active and you got.

[Andy Holloway]

To pick one guy, I guess we'll wait for the reports.

[Mike Wright]

You got to get the reports throughout the week. And honestly, if, if Cliff Kingsbury had come out and said after the game, yeah, David, he wanted to give it a go, yeah, we gave him the opportunity. He went out and he just didn't have it, that would. That's one thing. So, like the reason why fantasy players are upset. And look, you. You know where I have sided on coaches not being forthright with information, but he comes out and says, well, yeah, this was the plan. He was going to be the emergency back. Like, really, your matchup against the Giants was turned around because you threw down the smoke bomb in the crazy funhouse mirrors. You're not expecting Chase Edmonds to come out and destroy you. That had no bearing on you winning the game.

[Andy Holloway]

You have to wonder too, if the field conditions, the fact it started to rain, it just kind of ruled out. And obviously Edmonds was having a day, the greatest day of his career. And now, I mean, he's a different player than David Johnson. Edmonds far more explosive.

[Mike Wright]

Edmonds has the entire year even before David Johnson got banged up. When it comes to the pure runner, Chase Edmonds has looked vastly better than David Johnson. Look, DJ still looks great in the passing game, and when he gets the head of steam, he can be elusive. But Chase Edmonds looks like he fits this scheme a lot better.

[Andy Holloway]

We have a waiver show tomorrow. We'll talk about Chase Edmonds. Obviously, he should be already on your bench. I've got a lot of questions on Twitter today saying how much fab for him. I said zero. He should have been on your bench three weeks ago when we told you to put him on your bench, but he's not. You know, circumstances, sure, for a lot of teams, especially those that don't have David Johnson maybe didn't insure themselves. Chase Edmonds out there. We'll talk about it. Weekly Rewind news brought to you by the sleeper app. Don't miss a single piece of news. Get the app today.

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[Mike Wright]

You guys heard of this Aaron Rodgers man? Al Borland?

[Andy Holloway]

I've heard of him. Big fan, big fan, big fan. I also heard you guys talk on, I don't know, Thursday, Friday, going boy. People deciding between Gardner Minshew and Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers said, hey, I'm here, I'm still here.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he listened to the show and he was insulted.

[Mike Wright]

So you're welcome, America.

[Andy Holloway]

25 for 31. 429. 5. Threw in a rushing TD just as a little bonus has Kansas City the Chargers on deck. This is the fifth time he's thrown for five touchdowns in a game. He hasn't thrown for four since week 17 of 2017.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you knew he didn't have Devonte. You knew that the week he was going to do it was when he didn't have Devonte. Adams and Marquez Valdez Scantling and Geronimo Allison don't practice all week. They're going to be game time decisions, you know, pretty hobbled. He's, you know, working with a skeleton crew. Blow scorch the earth. What in the heck was that all about?

[Mike Wright]

Is Aaron Rodgers back?

[Jason Moore]

I have a hard time believing that he is back, but I have. It's difficult to say that after what he just did.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's. Let's say this, this isn't Mitch Trubisky throwing up a six touchdown game.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a quarterback who can take over a game when he wants to. Doesn't mean he has to all the time. Oakland was providing shootout ammo in this game, consistently driving down the field. Yes, they had some goal line turnover, but I mean they were moving the ball consistently against this team that gave Aaron Rodgers the need to do this. So Kansas City, la. I mean, sure, it's not like you're not playing Aaron Rodgers, but he's been kind of a 10 to 12 range guy in your mind, right?

[Mike Wright]

Well, he's been in actuality a 20 plus range guy for the very beginning of the season, so it's nice to see that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean there was no pass rush.

[Andy Holloway]

There was no pass rush, sure.

[Jason Moore]

Coming. Coming into this week, he was a quarterback 14, wasn't even a quarterback one. He had very few weapons, so I know some people pivoted off of him, but he was still very high in the rankings. A guy that you're going to start, it's nice to see him get one of these type of games because that's what you drafted him to do.

[Andy Holloway]

Speaking of shootouts, Kirk Cousins, Matthew Stafford Both threw for four touchdowns. Kirk Cousins officially on fire. Last three games, 976 passing yards and 10 touchdowns. One of the things that, you know with Mahomes going down on Thursday is fantasy owners actually got a little bit of a cheat code. If you had Mahomes and you know you're going to be without him, you had two or three days to sign some players and some of the more available quarterbacks, Kirk Cousins, Matthew Stafford, Jacoby Brissette, all three had huge games this week. Matthew Stafford has the Giants next week, then Oakland.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Kirk Cousins has the Thursday game against Washington, then Kansas City. Jacoby Brissette had a big Game as well. Four touchdowns. They stacked the box against Marlon Mack and he torched them. He picked them apart. And so all three of those to me are great fill in options for Patrick Mahomes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree. There's. There's a lot. And you could throw Sam Darnold into that mix. I don't expect him to have a great game tonight against the Patriots. But we've talked the length of the upcoming schedule. There are pivot options and a lot of people performed well. Including, yes, unfortunately, I mean, I guess.

[Andy Holloway]

Who is it, Jason, who had a big game, Jer?

[Mike Wright]

Jared Goff. Because when you play the Atlanta Falcons, you get fantasy points. It's this. A lot of things of fantasy football are difficult. This particular equation, though, of quarterback plus matchup against Falcons has been very easy. Now for we're going on five straight weeks, six weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

We debated this a little bit before the show. Mike said Jared Goff was the easiest start ever. I didn't agree because he really hurt you last week. Really hurt you. He hurt you so bad that sometimes maybe you didn't start him this week. Do you know anybody in that boat? Jason?

[Mike Wright]

Well, and like that boat involves it might cost you a victory this week.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Folklore and listen. And we made the water bet, Mike and I, because I had both these guys. I had Carson Wentz, I had Jared Goff on my roster, took a deep dive.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you guys water bet the two.

[Jason Moore]

We did.

[Mike Wright]

Of course, because you lost.

[Jason Moore]

I needed everything right now. You think so? Yes. I lost the water bet. I lost my rankings battle there. I lost. And most importantly, you may lose. I may lose in the league of record in an absolute must win situation. So Foot Clan, be with me tonight so that you can have me here tomorrow. I need basically, Le'Veon Bell cannot outscore Philip Dorset by 11 points. If that happens, I'm done forever.

[Andy Holloway]

How do we handicap that? By the way, I want the Foot Clan following along. Part of what makes this show different, I think, is how invested we are on our teams. We try not to take on, you know, we're invited to so many leagues. We take on a limited amount because we want to be invested. You can hear it in Jason's voice. He's invested to the point of possible exploration of his body. So how would you handicap that? Lev Bell outscoring Dorset by more than 11. I would say that's got to be at least 50. 50. If not, ooh, I'm not going 50. I would go. I think there's a 55% chance that it Happens that. It happens that I lose.

[Mike Wright]

Really? I think I'm going. Jason, 70%. I think that he is.

[Andy Holloway]

Philip Dorset is questionable. Oh, also there's the possibility he isn't.

[Mike Wright]

The whole entire Patriots team questionable.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Also Foot clan. I didn't want MVS because he was a game time decision hobbled. He hasn't been doing much this year. So I traded to Andy. I tr. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I traded future picks so that I could pivot from MVS to Philip Dorset. And now I would have won had I kept my picks and kept my player or played golf. I hate fantasy football. It's the worst.

[Mike Wright]

The grass is always greener on the other side. Jason, you had the one. You had him on your team and all you had to do was say, jared Goff, you're playing the Falcons. I'm putting you in, buddy.

[Jason Moore]

He sucked the whole year other than one game.

[Andy Holloway]

He was also Mike's start of the week. So all his best friend talk really, really didn't come to fruition with your lineup.

[Mike Wright]

I decided to help him.

[Andy Holloway]

You did. Goff had a big game. Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson's on pace for 1300 rushing yards. That'll break the record. He's on pace for 184 attempts. He's a completely different player than I think we've ever seen. He's up there. I mean, Vic. Vic is the comp. But. But when he takes off, it's just not like.

[Mike Wright]

As a runner.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I just mean as a runner, he's different than even the running quarterbacks that we have. He's far different. Kyler Murray, even Russell Wilson. Right. Russell Wilson is the king of getting loose, getting the first down, sliding before people get within four feet of you, playing it smart. Lamar Jackson is built in a way.

[Jason Moore]

I.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, Kaepernick. It reminds me a little bit of Kaepernick.

[Mike Wright]

That's a pretty good comp.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And he just. He's faster than everybody else.

[Mike Wright]

He's faster and very, very elusive when he's in the open field.

[Jason Moore]

How nice is it that he went to the Ravens, to John Harbaugh, to a. To a. To a coaching staff that will completely develop the team around and let him be himself. Because I know there were a lot of rumors of the Chargers were very interested. I don't think that's an organization and a coaching staff that would. They would have tried to make Lamar Jackson something he's not. But it's been a. It is so fun to watch him. But I will say this from A fantasy football perspective. I still think it's. I, like I said, I said to Mike while we were watching games last night, one of our arch rival in League one, Adam Rank out there, he's riding high with Lamar Jackson, but I just can't imagine you keep that pace up with his body and you don't get injured at some point.

[Andy Holloway]

So far so good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, so far so good.

[Andy Holloway]

And you know, I know we debate the fantasy scoring of the rushing quarterback, but man, at least in Lamar Jackson's case, what he does on the ground has equated to so many victories over two years. When he, as soon as he got on this team, like, you won because of his legs, you're winning because he's five and two this year, you're winning because of the legs. I'm fine with it. Josh Allen, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Tannehill. Tannehill with the big game 312, you know, you can start to glance the direction.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Tannehill against Tampa Bay, absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

But the wide receivers. Corey Davis is a guy that, that's what I mean.

[Andy Holloway]

You can, you can look at it and, And I think A.J. brown, I mean, it'll be between those two guys, which one scores on a weekly basis?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the target. He was looking, you know, and obviously from game to game it might be different, but it appeared he was looking first to Corey Davis. He's a guy that I have never rostered, never owned. And now I think on waivers. Tomorrow we're going to be talking about picking him up.

[Andy Holloway]

Interesting enough. Yes. Chase running backs, let's go. Chase Edmonds, Latavius Murray, Zeke Dalvin Cook doing his thing. And then Austin Eckler. Hey, Austin Eckler had five carries. It didn't matter. Seven for 118 and one through the air on eight targets. He's on pace as a receiver for 112 catches, 1115 yards and nine touchdowns. 121 targets. That was put in there by editor Kyle. I take a small issue with the pace argument because of all the missing games and Certainly, you know, 15, 15 targets and 14 catches a couple weeks ago. But clearly Austin Eckler is going to be a feature part of this offense.

[Mike Wright]

He better be, because another thing that Jason and I were talking about, watching this game of the Chargers, Melvin Gordon looks objectively bad. He does not look special right now. He cost them the game twice at the end. He needed to move the ball a foot, a single foot, and he ends up fumbling twice, essentially. One wasn't called to fumble, but he fumbled on the Goal line twice. When you get him the ball, he's not making anything happen. Meanwhile, Austin Eckler is just. He is completely electric and helping this offense. Melvin Gordon, right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you sell him Gordon? Yeah. He scored a touchdown in this game on a passing touchdown, man. So would you sell him on the basis of that touchdown?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, if you, if you can get a good price for Melvin Gordon, if you can sell him as a running back one. As a high end running back one. I would. I don't know if you can do that. Thankfully, he did get the touchdown. This is why I was saying two weeks ago, right when he came back.

[Andy Holloway]

He'S got a big name.

[Jason Moore]

I know, sure.

[Mike Wright]

But so here's the guys that like, man, I was going to say Aaron Jones, but I bet the Aaron Jones owner would. Would not sell him for Melvin Gordon. Maybe Josh Jacobs. I don't know the problem. If you're going to sell way Melvin Gordon, you have to get some kind of running back back. Maybe it's.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you're bringing these names up and there's no way those deals happen. Which means that maybe you're right. Maybe you're stuck with them because I think you are.

[Jason Moore]

If someone needs wide receiver help, right. And you could, you could take, you know, your Melvin Gordon and Marvin Jones, oh, my goodness, you know, he's on your bench. You could take those two guys and try to get Nick Chubb or something like that.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I get what you're saying. It makes sense.

[Mike Wright]

Try.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, try.

[Mike Wright]

Try.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we say it's not going to happen, but a lot of times we throw those out and we say it's not going to happen. Then we get like 100 tweets being like, oh, my gosh, look what I got.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Chase Edmonds against New Orleans next week. Then San Francisco. Two very difficult matchups. This is his third straight week with a touchdown and at least 13 fantasy points. Are you starting him?

[Jason Moore]

I think probably, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Even in those bad matchups, they're rough. But the Arizona Cardinals offense has produced. They've been producing for the running back the whole season. He's been great. So, yeah, I'm going to still stay with him.

[Andy Holloway]

We Latavius had a great game against Chicago. Wore their defense down. Really did nothing at all in the first half. Everything was in the second half. I will save all my Chicago Bears discussions for a more appropriately named segment.

[Mike Wright]

Excellent.

[Andy Holloway]

Otherwise, got Aaron Jones, got the passing touchdown. That was nice to see. Derek Henry had his first touchdown outside of the one out of his last eight in this game, 22 for 90 and one for Tennessee. It's better for Derek Henry. If this offense can move the football through the game 100%, he can have more one yard touchdowns. Leonard Fournette, who by the way, since week two leads the NFL in rushing yards, had a big game, 29 carries.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, that's why if he gets 25 plus carries every single game, he's as safe as it comes.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Marvin Jones. Hey, how you doing? 10 for 93 and 4 on 13 targets.

[Mike Wright]

When he had the breakout game as a Bengal.

[Andy Holloway]

Was 2013, by the way, when that happened? Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Was it a four touchdown game? It was okay.

[Andy Holloway]

He is the only. Other than Jerry Rice and Sterling Sharp, they're the only wide receivers to do it twice.

[Mike Wright]

So congratulations.

[Andy Holloway]

Insane. Four touchdowns from Marvin Jones. In fact, I believe he was matched up against Xavier Rhodes and Rhodes had given up something like. That's like he's given up three other touchdowns in the last couple of years and he gave up four to Marvin Jones. So I might have that stat slightly wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was the majority of Xavier Rhodes touchdowns given up came in this game over the last few years. Zach Pascal, six for 102 and two on seven targets. The question fantasy owners will want to know and we'll talk about it on the waiver show is do you really buy into it or is it more of a flash in the pan? I think it's more of a flash in the pan because the rotation of pass catchers, one week it's Ebron Doyle, Pascal, you know this game. I said it before. They stacked the boxing as Marlon Mack. They made Brissette beat you. The recipe for beating teams in the future for Indianapolis is going to be on the ground. So you could get, you could get stuck. Here is my take.

[Mike Wright]

You could get his line from the Kansas City game, which Kansas City. Generally juicy for your quarterback and wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Generally juicy.

[Mike Wright]

And that was one for eight.

[Andy Holloway]

One reception, eight yards and one was a. Wasn't one of these a shuffle shovel.

[Mike Wright]

Pass of Pascal this week?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I had to laugh, man, because you have these tap pass touchdowns that are like one inch. And then you had the DeSean Watson touchdown this week. Did you see that one where he ran and he threw it to like he threw it a nice 10 yards to Kiki QT. And it's a rush.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I hate.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just so funny.

[Jason Moore]

I've said it forever because it's behind.

[Andy Holloway]

The line of scrimmage.

[Jason Moore]

I wish it was Based on distance.

[Andy Holloway]

Of ball travel, you could take over.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Jason wants it really difficult.

[Jason Moore]

That's the. That's the issue. And I know it can't happen there. Go subjectivity, forward, backward. Sure. Yeah, I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true.

[Mike Wright]

But yes, you know that these quarterbacks are. That played in the 80s are looking at this going, wait a minute.

[Jason Moore]

I could have padded my stance.

[Mike Wright]

Coach, how did you not figure out that we could be doing this?

[Andy Holloway]

Troy Aikman tap passes to Emmett Smith for five touchdowns. Again, Stefan Diggs 7 for 142 on eight targets. He dropped the touchdown in this game. He's certainly a player you have to throw out there. The way that Diggs is playing. No. Thielen Hopkins, nine for 106 and one. It's almost like he's a really good receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Almost.

[Andy Holloway]

He's, by the way, the wide receiver. 10 on the season. You're almost looking at Hopkins so far. The way that you looked at David Johnson last year, you know, wide receiver, 10. That's not what you wanted right now.

[Mike Wright]

Speaking of a player.

[Andy Holloway]

But no.

[Mike Wright]

Will Fuller, who perhaps. Maybe this guy is just good. The rest of the team. Yeah, we're going to talk about him in a different section, but Allen Robinson keeps getting it done. 16 targets this week, 10 for 87 with a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

He.

[Mike Wright]

His lowest production of the year. Week two, four for 41.

[Andy Holloway]

Alan Robinson, he's a must start.

[Mike Wright]

Is 100% a must start. And like I was nervous to play Alan Robinson in this matchup, I was nervous against. He's seeing him line up against Marshawn Lattimore. But Alan Robinson is.

[Jason Moore]

Dude, he.

[Mike Wright]

To me, he's back.

[Andy Holloway]

They can't. They can't run the football. The Bears can't run the football. And when I say they can't run the football, I mean they literally cannot run the football an inch. They can't do it.

[Jason Moore]

You say can't, I say don't.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, it's become a little bit of both.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's certainly both. But Alan Robinson.

[Andy Holloway]

And then you're saying. Because they passed it 54 times and rushed it seven times. Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that why?

[Jason Moore]

I think it's because they. They didn't even have 10 rushing attempts. That's. You choose that number. That's. That's a. That's a coach's choice.

[Andy Holloway]

But they're. When they have committed to it, they've been extremely inefficient. Jordan Howard ran circles around what this, this rushing offense is doing right now. Matt Nagy is. He's lost. He's lost.

[Jason Moore]

We're not there yet.

[Andy Holloway]

I know. I see. I knew I wanted, I knew I wanted to talk about. All right, we got to talk. We got to move on. Darren Waller.

[Mike Wright]

My goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

Eric ebron with top five catch of the year. Touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

One hander.

[Jason Moore]

That was awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

Four for 70 and one again. He is a very. You can roll him out there. You are hoping for a touchdown and you're hoping you. You spun the wheel and you landed on a passing game for Indianapolis. Kyle Rudolph, like I said, five for 58 and one. This is. He's going to be relevant with Adam Thielen gone. With Adam Thielen gone, I really believe so. However, Washington on Thursday, you know, do they Dalvin Cook that entire game away? I don't know. I still think if you can stream. He's a streamable tight end. Hunter Henry, 6 for 97. He's legitimately, he's a must start tight end at this point. Then Jimmy Graham, 4 for 65 and 1. When you watch the game, I feel like Jimmy Graham's super involved and then I go to the stat line and he's always got like three or four catches at the most. I don't know what happens.

[Mike Wright]

What do you make of Gerald Everett flashing back onto the scene? He had the down week two weeks ago, but that was San Francisco. 4 for 50 with a touchdown, 10 targets, gets to play the Bengals.

[Andy Holloway]

Does it count as on fire if you skip a week, Mike, because he was hot, hot off?

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm not saying he's on fire but for like Gerald Everett certainly hit some waiver wires.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you play Everett or O.J. howard? I this upcoming week would play Gerald Everett.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would as well. I mean I know O.J. howard's running routes but he's not getting the ball. So I'll go with the guy who's actually getting it done.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, you start, you have Dallas Goddard as you start of the week.

[Mike Wright]

I did.

[Andy Holloway]

And he delivered 4 for 69 and a touchdown. And he's a gray sports almanac situation.

[Mike Wright]

It was just reading the like try to read the tea leaves of him being used. You combine the off season. I know it's coach speak, but they were saying we're going to go two tight end sets. Then he got hurt. So you feel like, well then it's never going to happen. But he just, he got hurt. Now he's back. His snaps were increasing, his targets were increasing.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to know why Jason's never been behind this guy.

[Mike Wright]

It took me to finally Let people know who Dallas Goddard is.

[Andy Holloway]

What a weird week.

[Jason Moore]

You're starting the breakout.

[Andy Holloway]

Starting Jared Goff, starting Dallas Goddard. Those are.

[Mike Wright]

We got a couple, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Great plays.

[Mike Wright]

So.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, you guys ready to move on?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Stinkers of the Week, presented by Odor Eaters.

[Andy Holloway]

There were plenty of Stinkers this week, and it was between the weather, the low scoring affairs, and then the unsuspecting players breaking out.

[Mike Wright]

And the. Chase Edmonds.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Chase Edmonds, Marvin Jones. These were guys that were. I mean, Twitter is a vicious place for sob stories. I mean, you need to vent, right? That's what happens.

[Jason Moore]

You either vent or you bottle it up. Weep inside. Just put that cap on. Don't worry. This will be fine. This is where I'm living right now, fellas.

[Andy Holloway]

So Matt Ryan, Kyler Murray, Jimmy G. Okay, Carson Wentz, Stinkers at the quarterback position. And then I was surprised Russell Wilson didn't have a better game at home against Baltimore in a game script that he needed to be throwing the football. Didn't get a lot of help outside of, you know, Tyler Lockett. Yeah, drop passes.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say there were a lot of drop passes, fumbles by other players. You know, it was. It was, I'm sure, frustrating for Russell Wilson as well, because it's like every time he's on the move, he'd make a good play that wouldn't count. Or, you know, he. At the end, you know, he threw it to DK Metcalf, who then fumbles and then the drive is over and.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't have Will Disley anymore. We can't underestimate that impact he was making.

[Mike Wright]

And Chris Carson and the running game, they couldn't get it going. Carson had a ton of volume. 21 carries, but only 65 yards. He was coming off of three straight games of over 100. I think that played a bigger role in slowing this offense down.

[Andy Holloway]

At running back, we've got David Johnson. He had one carry for two yards and that's it. He stood on the sideline the rest of the game. We'll see if he's active this week. Melvin Gordon, Kerryon Johnson, we talked about them, David. All right. We have to. All right, we get to start talking about it.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

David Montgomery received two carries. He fumbled the second carry, which came in the second half. I was talking to Jason before the game saying, do I start Adrian Peterson or do I start David Montgomery? And last second I went Peterson. And this is not an Adrian Peterson sloshing victory lap. But, oh, my gosh, he was so Much better than David Montgomery was. I mean, do we. I think we have to just take the L on David Montgomery. He has shown very, very little. And Matt Nagy is the least trustworthy coach in football. Does he belong. Sincere question. Does David Montgomery belong on your bench?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, as opposed to dropping him?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Does he belong on your bench as opposed to dropping him? Because we. We're out there, we're looking at all these other players that get opportunities.

[Jason Moore]

Look, two carries that. The thing is about that. Seven total carries in a game. I realize that that is now obviously in the realm of possibility for Matt Nagy, but that is also not the norm. This is an outlier extreme. They were down so much.

[Andy Holloway]

54 ugly passes. Oh, from Mitch Trubisky.

[Jason Moore]

Trubisky sucks. I mean, he. This isn't even like a hot take.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, Mark Walton, should he be on your bench over David Montgomery? These are the questions that you have to ask if you take the preseason hype out of it, don't you?

[Mike Wright]

Well, Mark Walton, that one's a very, very interesting thing. Do you take the starting running back for a terrible team? But Mark Walton showed out. He looked pretty good in his work against the Buffalo Bills. I don't think David Montgomery is a drop because running backs are. They're. They're tough to come by, and there could be better days ahead. It. We're in, like, the exact opposite situation as the Vikings here with the Bears at the beginning of the season. Kurt cousins of week one throws the ball, what, 10 times? Stefan Diggs is just garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage. And then they were able to figure things out. That's why I don't think that Montgomery is a drop. I'm not saying with full confidence that the Bears are going to figure out the running game by the end of.

[Jason Moore]

The year, but that happens in the NFL.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

They also don't get the luxury of figuring it out if their defense isn't what it was under Vic Fangio. And right now, Chuck Pagano's does not have them. Their linebackers can't stop the running game. Two straight games of over 100 yards if they're behind. You got it. Matt Nagy is the kind of coach that pulls the running game off the table when they're behind. That's the fear and worry. And if two carries is in the range of outcomes. Holy moly. Do we have a. Do they? They should be begging for Jordan Howard back. The disrespect they showed him.

[Jason Moore]

The Bears should trade for Matt Ryan. Why?

[Mike Wright]

Why would the Falcons that's the weirdest thing.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a weird take.

[Jason Moore]

No, I. There were. There were reports coming out.

[Andy Holloway]

What about Matt Moore? That might be better coming out from.

[Jason Moore]

Beat writers and saying that the Falcons should trade Matt Ryan for picks because the Falcons are what? Well, the Falcons window. I mean, I don't know. I think it's dumb.

[Mike Wright]

That's. That's absolute insanity to me. Matt Ryan.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that makes no sense.

[Mike Wright]

He's 34. Like you have. You have multiple years. That's. That's people getting clicks. Shame on you.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Okay. How about this? Trade for anyone?

[Mike Wright]

Aaron Rodgers.

[Jason Moore]

Trade for Kyle Allen. Trade for.

[Andy Holloway]

No. You know, you're sleeping in the Trubisky bed, Matt Nagy. You're sleeping in it. And you can. And while you sleep, you can dream about desean Watson. You can dream about Patrick Mahomes and Bears fans out there. I'm sorry. I'm super sorry. Yeah, it's because you were one shank epotamus from, you know, the title game. And now you're here and you know where you're at.

[Mike Wright]

Right?

[Andy Holloway]

We all know. You're grimacing. You're looking at your friends. You want to know how long you're going to be buried here under the Trubisky buried cloud.

[Mike Wright]

I see what you did there. Very nice.

[Andy Holloway]

There's a reason Jay Grizz wasn't here this morning at all. He's not even in the office. He's disgusted.

[Jason Moore]

He's in a cave. He's. He's hibernating.

[Andy Holloway]

The truth is, David Montgomery was going to be a player if this offense was good. It's a bad offense. So right now it's. It's just a terrifying situation. Jordan Howard has 347 rushing yards on the season. The Bears have 300. Jordan Howard's in a committee in Philadelphia. He has more rushing yards than the entire Bears team. I'm sorry. Things got very stinky very quickly. Devonta Freeman, he had a terrible game and then decided to try to punch the lights out of Aaron Donald. That didn't work.

[Mike Wright]

What are you doing, man?

[Andy Holloway]

Frustrations boiling over.

[Jason Moore]

He wanted an excuse for his fantasy output. And this is why I said you asked, do I trust Devonta Freeman? No. I will never trust him.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. You foresaw the ejection.

[Jason Moore]

No, I just know that he is an untrustworthy fantasy ass.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, now, Edo Smith may be out for a while.

[Jason Moore]

That is.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you think Freeman can control the right hook?

[Jason Moore]

I think moving forward, he will not be ejected for future fights.

[Andy Holloway]

Big stinker game for Mark Ingram, 12 for 46, no touchdowns. Only one catch has the bye week coming up. Marla Mack, 18 for 44.

[Mike Wright]

Disappointing Houston.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it is disappointing. Like I said, Houston said, hey, we're going to take away Mac. And they still lost Devin Singletary. This was not. This was a tough start to me because his first game back.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we had talked about him on the show that yes, he has a sneaky start potential, that he has juice, but he's only carried the ball 10 times. It's his first game back from the injury.

[Andy Holloway]

We weren't game script was not what we thought.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And there are better days ahead coming for Devin Singletary.

[Andy Holloway]

I found it encouraging that they. The first week he could be back, they made TJ Eldon inactive and they brought Devin Singletary and made him active. That's a good sign for things to come. But it was a scary start. Miles Sanders didn't do much. 6 for 21. Tough play right now. All right, Kenny Golladay. Kenny Golladay was 1 for 21 on two targets.

[Jason Moore]

He's been balling out. He's been a monster and he's still 100% great and fine. You know, not everybody's bad lines are the same. This is what. There's a reason for everybody's poor games. Well, the reason for his poor game is simply that his quarterback and another wide receiver balled out. He doesn't get an option when Marvin Jones is catching four touchdowns. So it sucks if you had him, but he's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Golladay has been the wide receiver to own in four of the six weeks. The two weeks the Marvin Jones caught touchdowns, Galladay had 2.7 and 2.6 fantasy points. So you're just rolling the dice. I mean, that's what it is.

[Jason Moore]

Can't they just kind of share? Can't they get along better and be like one for you? Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Can Marvin catch it and say, no, I actually, I give this away, bequeath this touchdown. I know I caught it, but give the stats to Kenny Golladay.

[Andy Holloway]

The weird thing was the targets, it actually wasn't, you know, touchdowns, they go wherever. But the preceding five games, nine, nine, eight, ten, nine in this game, two targets.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So it was just weird.

[Mike Wright]

They found something that worked and it was the guy, whoever was covering, Marvin Jones. All right, next on the list, Larry Fitzgerald. Only coming through with three targets. But like we said, Chase Edmonds, this one, you could or you couldn't see it coming. This was very disappointing. Don't get me wrong. Like Kyler. Kyler's fantasy output, that sucked. But it's because Chase Edmonds could not be stopped. Terry McLaurin, he was. He had turned close to a full bench after the weather reports were coming in. Will Fuller got hurt. Michael Gallup, this one doesn't make sense. And it was really disappointing.

[Andy Holloway]

It's two bad weeks in a row for Gallup after we thought he kind of leveled up. That's the truth.

[Mike Wright]

At against Philadelphia secondary, the.

[Jason Moore]

It was.

[Mike Wright]

Everything was there.

[Jason Moore]

But Cooper. Cooper had a great game. Tavon Austin got one of the touchdowns. Jeff Swaim.

[Mike Wright]

No, not Jeff. Blake Jarwin.

[Jason Moore]

Blake Jarwin.

[Mike Wright]

They are not. Jeff Swaim is on the IR and Blake Jarwin.

[Andy Holloway]

Jeff Jarwin. Blake Swain.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

Blake Jarwin. Baby, let's go.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It just didn't. It didn't go his way.

[Andy Holloway]

I got really sad news for you.

[Jason Moore]

I don't want to hear it.

[Andy Holloway]

Then Jason Moore put up 0. 0 and 0 on 0 targets.

[Mike Wright]

Why didn't you tell us, Jason?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you went out there and you basically. Look, I heard the show last week. Jason Moore was your 100% fab guarantee waiver pickup.

[Jason Moore]

Right. And the thing is, is he still.

[Andy Holloway]

Which I didn't even realize it's the same name as you.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah. No that coincidence. He's still the number one waiver pickup. The Tennessee each. Every week. Yes. The Titans defense gets all the credit. They played great against me and I'm going to show out next week. Just keep trusting.

[Andy Holloway]

Is your route tree developing a little bit more than what we saw this week.

[Jason Moore]

Two routes now.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Two routes I can run and then I can run and stop. Okay, so those are two.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Work harder, Goosen. Evan Ingram, maybe the most disappointing player of the week against Arizona.

[Mike Wright]

100% the most disappointing. Rhett Ellison got the bomb touchdown. Yeah. Evan Ingram missed some time with going off the field for injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Should have had a huge game.

[Mike Wright]

Should have had a huge game. Had a monster drop. Evan Ingram now balls out every week, except when he's facing an unbelievable tight end matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

It got in his head. If you saw he had the gloves on, drops the pass, takes the gloves off.

[Mike Wright]

It was the gloves fault.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's raining. I'm gonna be better without these gloves. Turns out I'm not one for six. A poop in his big boy pants against Arizona. And Rhett Ellison ends up catching the touchdown that way. Arizona still looks terrible against tight ends.

[Mike Wright]

Because they are.

[Jason Moore]

Because they are. Yeah, the top tight ends really stunk it up. I mean, Ertz now Andrews tittle. Is Ertz a problem? Like is Goddard a problem for Ertz in the sense that great Ertz is. Does he exist?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he exists. He exists. Just a down game.

[Jason Moore]

Would you.

[Mike Wright]

The thing is, Ertz is fine. So I'm not saying this as like you. Zach Ertz. Move away from him. Trade him away. He's a reliable tight end. But the upside of Zach Ertz disappears when there's other guys who take the targets. And Dallas Goddard is. Is one of those guys.

[Andy Holloway]

It's been. It's been pretty bad.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, look, we're seven weeks in and it's. It doesn't take much to be a top 12 tight end. It doesn't take much at all. Of the seven weeks, he's only been a top 12 tight end two times. I mean, he's sucked.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they are. I mean, double digit fantasy points. He's three.

[Mike Wright]

Three of the week expectations. Because he's the lab. Before this 38 yards. He was averaging over 50 yards a game.

[Andy Holloway]

Part of the preseason. Talk about Zachary was tempering expectations and whether you were willing to spend a third round pick on him. Because historical career data versus last year's insane target numbers, they didn't add up.

[Mike Wright]

And Ernst can produce when he gets targets.

[Andy Holloway]

He still had seven last night or five preceding weeks. Nine. Seven targets. So the offense is not moving right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you have to down. Downgrade your expectations.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I miss you, Desean. I miss you. Darren Fell. Fell back to Earth. Two for 27 on two targets. Oh.

[Mike Wright]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm sorry. It's almost as though he's there. And Fells. Stinkers of the week presented by Odor Eaters. Odor Eaters. The best in foot odor defense.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, and my. Look, we know all about it. My son knows all about it. Odor Eaters is taking care of business in the right house.

[Jason Moore]

Fixing problems.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he got. He got the stank feet.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, your son does?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Like the post.

[Jason Moore]

Not anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

Post.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I'm saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Stank feet.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Inherited?

[Mike Wright]

No, not.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, good question.

[Mike Wright]

Probably from the wife.

[Jason Moore]

Get bodied.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Want to thank our studio sponsor, Pristine Auction. Aaron Jones. Signed, chrome speed, mini helmet. $65.

[Mike Wright]

Nice.

[Andy Holloway]

Nice deal. Go to pristineauction.com. use the code ballers. We'll be back with a waiver show tomorrow. I'm happy to be back in here, guys. We're happy to have you back. Ice cream's a hell of a drug. I'll tell you. I'll tell you.

[Mike Wright]

It's just not the best for your immune system.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, I don't like this correlation. I got sick independent of my ice cream habits. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Thanks for 800 shows, Foot Clan.

[Mike Wright]

800 more. Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

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