
The Fantasy Footballers Podcast is back with Week 8 underway! After recapping Thursday Night Football, get injury updates on a handful of players. Who should you have a backup plan for? Then it’s a fantasy football forecast of the rest of the Week 8 Mat
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Andy Holloway
Hi, this is Eric Dickinson, NFL hall.
Mike Wright
Of Famer, and you listen to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.
Andy Holloway
Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Jason Moore
Oh, welcome back. Welcome in.
Mike Wright
It's Indy time.
Jason Moore
I was talking to myself first. Welcome into the show, Andy, Mike and Jason, the fantasy footballers. I'm trying to book in the week. When I was a kid, I always said weekend should be four days.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Jason Moore
And you should go to school for three days.
Mike Wright
I think that my children would approve that message.
Jason Moore
But no, I'm, I'm rejoining just before the weekend. I can handle one show before the weekend. I appreciate you guys holding things down for me. My daughter is doing perfectly fine now. She is, well, better.
Mike Wright
So she is much stronger than you.
Jason Moore
Much stronger.
Mike Wright
I get into the office, shout out.
Jason Moore
To the asthmatics out there.
Mike Wright
I get into the office today.
Jason Moore
Oh, no.
Mike Wright
I'm like, oh, Andy's car's here. It was. There was rumors, whispers from the bushes that Mr. Holloway was going to make his triumphant return. And I walk in, Andy's going buck wild on the nebulizer, just looking super cool.
Jason Moore
Yeah, yeah. Well, Mike, you can relate, you know.
Mike Wright
I can puff, puff.
Jason Moore
But no, it's been a long week, I'll say that. I appreciate you guys holding everything down. And we're back. We've got more matchups on the show today. We've got an exciting weekend. We've got the game last night bringing us back to the early 50s, like, once again and a whole lot to get into. I'm going to even share some my starts of the week real quick at the top here.
Andy Holloway
Oh, that's great. I was just going to say that game at least was merciful because, like, I'm usually putting my kids to bed at halftime and this game was over.
Jason Moore
Didn't 19 to 9 just feel like the right score? I mean, that just seems. Yeah, that's the kind of matchup that Bill Callahan's like, ooh, a high scoring affair.
Mike Wright
So this was Pat Thorman, great friend of the show. He tweeted out Washington has run 41 snaps in consecutive games. For context, the five offenses with the fewest plays run in each of the last five seasons averaged 57 snaps. They were at 41. Since 1970, only three teams have run 41. Players are fewer twice in the same season.
Jason Moore
Too many. Too many, says Bill. Wild Bill, look. Yes, Mild Bill.
Mike Wright
Adrian Peterson, look. He looked.
Andy Holloway
He looked.
Mike Wright
Okay, 14 for 76, you know, running for 5.4 a carry. He's been over four a carry the past three games.
Jason Moore
That's impressive to me because everybody knows it's coming.
Mike Wright
It 100% is. But you know what it's not doing winning football games.
Jason Moore
Well, let's be honest. They weren't going to win them anyway.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. They're trying to no matter what strategy and I think they're doing a good job.
Jason Moore
The Jay Gruden strategy or the Bill Callahan strategy, you weren't going to win. I even said about Haskins, you know, people. People are so excited. And about the McLaurin, Haskins collegiate connection. Well, Dwayne Haskins is not in college anymore.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And it shows because everyone. That would be a McLaurin reception is an interception.
Mike Wright
Yeah. That McLaurin was wide open for a nice gain, if you want. He was on.
Andy Holloway
He was falling out. In the beginning of that game with Case Keenum, I was like, oh, fantastic.
Mike Wright
Yeah. I think it was like 4 for 39 or something in the first. In the first half.
Jason Moore
I mean, it is not a question as to whether Terry McLaurin is good. He's great. He's a great separator. He was consistently open. B. If you're a McLaurin owner, just be saying your prayers for Case Keenum. You need him back.
Mike Wright
They have said that he will be the starter if he's healthy. So at least.
Jason Moore
Which is great.
Mike Wright
We haven't. We haven't got the proclamation yet that, okay, it's. It's Haskins time. Which many, many teams at this point in the season, where the season's gone, they would say, okay, let's see what the rookie can do.
Andy Holloway
I think the problem is they've seen what the rookie can do in practice.
Jason Moore
That's the only fear I have.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
With Cortland Sutton, I love. Look, like Emmanuel Sanders leaves. Cortland Sutton's been a baller. The only fear in the back of your mind with Cortland Sutton, or for those of you who want to go acquire him real quick before the end of the season for the big run without Emmanuel Sanders is what happens if Flacco plays two more games. If Flacco's there, Cortland Sutton's going to be a.
Mike Wright
You're saying. And then they go to, like Drew Locke.
Jason Moore
Yeah. They go somewhere else. And then the. All that consistency, the strategy. Even in Washington, it hurts. 41 plays a game. Even with Case Keenum, it hurts McLaurin not having more opportunity.
Andy Holloway
It's funny. You can make fun of Joe Flacco and Case Keenum, which we do, it's easy. But the problem is when you compare them to a mid level basically to a non exceptional rookie quarterback, they are so much better than that. And you know when the first change was made in case, you know was when they went to Haskins the first time.
Mike Wright
Right.
Andy Holloway
I remember saying look, this is bad for Terry McLaurin. You just look at rookies, yardage and touchdown totals at the quarterback position. They don't support quality wide receivers.
Mike Wright
Just for Flacco right now. I mean he's got Brandon Allen behind him, Drew Locke, all the news on him because they put him on the IR at the beginning of the season. I don't know when he's going to come back. So I think Flacco is actually a little, he's safe right now.
Jason Moore
Things can change quick when you watch Joe Flacco with your eyeballs. That's all I'm going to say. If the team has to watch him for a couple weeks, different things can change quickly. I know that Elways come out and talked about Drew Locke. He says he's not ready yet and he means it developmentally, not just physically.
Mike Wright
Right.
Jason Moore
He's just not ready yet. So that there's a lot of hope there. I'm not saying throw Sutton away. It's just got to be the fear in the back of your mind that your, your F1 can be thrown into neutral.
Mike Wright
And then back to the game that happened last night real quick. Kirk Cousins was freaking awesome. Like he was sensational. 23 for 26. And I think his incompletions were two throwaways and a drop. I mean he was essentially perfect.
Jason Moore
Fantasy owners don't care.
Mike Wright
I know that's, that's a crappy part of Jason's flexing. Yeah, here's the problem.
Jason Moore
You guys made a top 12 bet, right?
Andy Holloway
We did. We did.
Mike Wright
And here's. Here's the problem. Cousins, you would agree Jason was an excellent quarterback.
Andy Holloway
Oh absolutely. He was.
Mike Wright
He was 285 yards. But for fantasy nothing because the almighty touchdown is so incredibly valuable that he will now be like QB17 on the week even though he was awesome.
Andy Holloway
Have hope. As of right now, he is the quarterback. One on the week.
Jason Moore
All right, it is.
Mike Wright
Can we, can we end the bet right there?
Jason Moore
It is Friday.
Andy Holloway
Foot Clan Friday.
Jason Moore
All right. Today's winner of a $55 gift card to shopballers.com is a foot Clan member. Male lover. That's their name. Oh, I was waiting for not just a Mayo lover, which many of us are, but Mayo lover. Okay, so congratulations, Mayo. Mayo lover.
Andy Holloway
I heard the same thing. You were hearing, Mike.
Mike Wright
I was hearing mail.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Mike Wright
And then I was like, what? Like the post I had.
Andy Holloway
I was trying to find the spelling because I was like, I love getting a fresh envelope and going to town. Because many of us are male lovers.
Jason Moore
Male versus Mayo, though.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Which direction do you go? There.
Andy Holloway
I'll go with mayo names.
Jason Moore
Oh, I love. Yeah, I just picked up. I finally did it. I picked up that combo, the Mayo chup.
Mike Wright
Oh, like mayonnaise ketchup combo.
Jason Moore
Yeah, they released that into stores.
Mike Wright
I mean, it's pretty much Thousand island without relish.
Jason Moore
No, it's different.
Mike Wright
It's.
Jason Moore
You need to. Really need to check it out.
Mike Wright
Oh, I'm sure it was delightful.
Jason Moore
All right, before we get into the rest of the matchups, I want to invite you to follow us on twitter@the ffballers instagram.com fantasy footballers. We're on YouTube. You know where to find us. And then I want to throw these out there because I heard. I mean, you spoke for me yesterday at wide receiver, which was perhaps out.
Mike Wright
Of turn, but you were not here to stop it. So it happened.
Jason Moore
No, but I'm here today and I. I feel like I need to throw my starts of the week out there briefly, quickly here. And they'll all be in the I'm not dead yet theme because I am physically not dead yet. I'm back. And so my quarterback start of the week, Matthew Stafford. This week I actually have my number two.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
On the week against New York, three 30 plus point games, driving it downfield, you guys know. And then this one is going to be a little bit different.
Mike Wright
This one's a hot take.
Jason Moore
It is. And look, it'd be very easy and obvious. Everybody starting Austin Eckler. If you have Austin Eckler, you're starting him. So I'm not going to make him my start of the week. It seems stupid, but a lot of people want to know whether you can start Melvin Gordon against Chicago. And most people think you can't. And I think that you can. I don't think Melvin Gordon is dead. The wheels have fallen off for Chicago's run defense. There's potentially no or a limited Keenan Allen in this game. The last three games, the Bears run defense has given up six touchdowns. They've been absolutely decimated. If you read anything about what's going on in Chicago, the linebacking core is just a disaster. Roquan Smith finally came back, played terribly, was indicted. They're moving people around. They can't stop the run right now. They're giving up tons and tons and tons of yards.
Mike Wright
So let me ask you this.
Jason Moore
I just want to say you can.
Mike Wright
Start Melvin Gordon when the wheels have fallen off of the rush defense, which I agree with that. What happens when a car where the wheels fell off is put up against another car where it looks like the wheels are also not attached being Melvin Gordon?
Jason Moore
I think they never collide. I think that's what happens. Right.
Andy Holloway
That's good for a running back. You don't want him to collide.
Jason Moore
They never hit each other.
Mike Wright
But he can't collide because he can't move.
Andy Holloway
Sure. The nice thing is Russell Okung, the left tackle. Yeah.
Mike Wright
He should be back.
Andy Holloway
He should be back and that's huge because I think a big part of Melvin Gordon's problem and you know, they lost their guard, they lost their center. Those are major problems. At least they're getting their left tackle back.
Jason Moore
I just want to put a little bit of a confidence play out there with Melvin Gordon. My team appreciates and you guys talked about it yesterday. The passing defense in Chicago has been stout, but the last three weeks they've lost it on the ground. Whether it was to Jacobs or Latavius Murray. It's been ugly.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And then you guys threw out my wide receiver start of the week already. So we'll go Kenny Stills at wide receiver and then Kenny Bills.
Andy Holloway
Also. We need to apologize to the Foot Clan. I did see our start sit tool was apparently broken because it couldn't find Kenny Bills. Yeah. If you serve his broken because of that.
Mike Wright
Well, he's like the system rejected Kenny Bills, which it's.
Andy Holloway
That's on us.
Mike Wright
Yeah, we're not going to change that, but that's still on us.
Jason Moore
And then I think you can take a shot. Tight end starts of the week. Right now it might as well be a streamer. You guys know you're starting the big players right now, but you're looking for, hey, can I start a Josh Hill? I'm gonna. I think Ben Watson is somebody that you could, you could throw out there this week. He played on 62 of 82 snaps last week. Five targets. Always a possibility for him to bring in a touchdown in this matchup. You know, it doesn't look like Chris Herndon is going to be back this week as an option. Jared Cook is out again. There's a lot of struggling tight end start situations if you don't have one of the big guys. And so I'm actually look, Ben Watson is going to be my play over Chris Herndon, who's going to probably sit again. So I'll throw that out there quickly. As another player I have more confidence in than some others. But it is Friday. You guys want to do some in and out?
Andy Holloway
What's it going to be, McFly?
Mike Wright
Are you in or out?
Jason Moore
There was one tiny bit of news first, just the Robbie Anderson trade rumors. Do you buy into the fact that Robbie Anderson's being shopped? Going to be a free agent. Could go someplace else.
Mike Wright
I buy it. There's been whispers this entire season of Robbie Anderson being traded away. They just have increased in volume over the past couple of days. They.
Andy Holloway
He's.
Mike Wright
He is up for a contract. Like he's going to be looking for a big payday and the jets don't seem like they want to offer it to him. So trading him away right now would be the move for New York. Get some value while you can and.
Andy Holloway
If you have a burnable roster spot, if you're like my last guy, like, you know, it's garbage.
Jason Moore
Dt.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Demarius Thomas is a guy you might want to pick up prior to a possible trade. Because if Robbie was traded, everyone would be rushing to the waiver wire to grab the Mary's Thomas with the upcoming schedule and the targets that would open up for him.
Jason Moore
All right, in or out? Let's go through the injuries. What you guys are expecting. Matt Ryan?
Mike Wright
Yeah, I think he'll play.
Andy Holloway
I'm going to say in based on Dan Quinn saying in what about Drew Brees.
Jason Moore
I know you guys have talked a lot about it this week.
Andy Holloway
Brees says he's expecting to play. I'm still going to say out.
Mike Wright
I think he's going to be out.
Jason Moore
Just not worth the risk.
Mike Wright
It's certainly not worth the risk, but Drew Brees is. Players want to play, man. Alvin Camara limited again on Thursday. I believe he will play this week though. They'll release Zenner.
Andy Holloway
Steve Geller, the sideline reporter said that he was back at practice. No wrap, brace, tape, sleeve.
Jason Moore
Oh, none of those.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, so I think he's in.
Mike Wright
What about clothes?
Jason Moore
Oh, goodness.
Andy Holloway
It doesn't say. So I can't confirm or not.
Mike Wright
They're taking it back to ancient, ancient Olympic times.
Andy Holloway
They were going. They were taking shirts and skins real serious. They're like, yikes. Your skins today. Oh, man.
Jason Moore
Yikes. David Johnson.
Mike Wright
Oh, gosh. It's now just coming out that he will be a game time decision.
Andy Holloway
They will not. David Johnson is out and he's out. Of my lineup. Even if he plays well, that I.
Jason Moore
Think that's the important piece there. Right. Like whether or not he's active. You can't try it this week if you're facing Chase Edmonds versus DJ. They're both active. You're playing Edmonds.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
100% fool me once.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Josh Jacobs, he can play with the special football juice.
Jason Moore
So you think he will because he didn't practice all week.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he can't really practice because he.
Mike Wright
Needs the special football. Right.
Andy Holloway
His shoulder has a. What we assume is a sprained AC joint. He needs a shot. They're not going to give him a shot for practice, but they'll give him a shot for the game and he'll get out there.
Jason Moore
No cursory. DeAndre Washington adds.
Mike Wright
I think he's interesting that he should be on your bench.
Jason Moore
All right. Malcolm Brown's been ruled out. Rex Burkhead unlikely to play. Jalen Samuels had a surprise full practice on Thursday. If he's sitting out on waiver wires. Are you?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
I mean, scooping me.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he's not to play, but I mean, just.
Mike Wright
I don't think he plays this week. But it's possible that he's back next week now, which will be a. This will be a beating the timeline. But he's worth an ad the same way that Benny Snell was worth the ad.
Jason Moore
For what it's worth. Dr. David Chow didn't. He wasn't very surprised at the time.
Mike Wright
Oh, he wasn't?
Jason Moore
No, he wasn't.
Mike Wright
Well, I'm not a doctor and I'm surprised.
Jason Moore
There you go. Devonte Adams.
Andy Holloway
It's getting better for Devonte Adams.
Jason Moore
Things are up 2 million times better.
Andy Holloway
2 million times better. But I still don't believe he plays this week. I think he gets.
Mike Wright
How many more millions do we need, Devonte?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, just two more next week. Two more million. It'll be a full game time decision. Unfortunately, it's Sunday Night Football, so you've got to be prepared with either, you know, another guy in the Sunday night.
Mike Wright
Or Monday night game, which would be more than likely. It's one of the Miami Dolphin wide receivers like Devonte Parker or Preston Williams.
Jason Moore
There's a lot of whiteouts on the fence this week. Let's run through them. Mbs, in or out?
Andy Holloway
In Keenan, I'm going to say out. He popped up on Thursday as a. Did not participate from a hamstring issue. That's tough. Yeah.
Mike Wright
If he's limited today though, he'll be in.
Jason Moore
A.J. green's not going to be out there.
Mike Wright
Correct.
Jason Moore
Julian Edelman. He'll be out there.
Mike Wright
He always plays.
Jason Moore
Will we see Emmanuel Sanders make his 49er debut?
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Jason Moore
Tyrell. Tyrell Williams.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I think he's good to go. He's been practicing. They're expecting him to play this week.
Jason Moore
Sterling Shepard out. Okay. Sammy Watkins.
Andy Holloway
And he's been practicing in full.
Jason Moore
I was kind of curious. I heard you guys say that you would start Watkins.
Andy Holloway
No, you heard Mike.
Mike Wright
I was saying I'm going to start Watkins.
Jason Moore
Even with Matt. With Matt Moore, you would start walk.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I think Matt Moore is a very competent guy. And it's. Andy Reid can get a game or two out of his backup. And it's. It's not that, like I'm starting Sammy Watkins. I've got a top 20 guy this week. It's okay. I kind of have to start Sammy Watkins. But I also believe that he can succeed even with the circumstances.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that surprised me a little bit. I think I'm, I think I'm more scared than you, Mike, but. Sure, but lizards are scary.
Mike Wright
They are. But it's like, okay, do you go with the lizard king or do I go to the waiver wire and pick up one of the.
Jason Moore
Preston Williams. Would you play Preston Williams? Over.
Mike Wright
No.
Jason Moore
Sammy Watson, Pittsburgh. Probably not.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I'm not interested in that.
Andy Holloway
Christian Kirk, listening to Arizona Insider Kent Summers this morning he was asked the same question. He thinks he's going to play this week. It's getting closer and he's. And he knows Christian Kirk's really wanting to get out there.
Jason Moore
All right. George Kittle, Ltd. On Thursday. He should play Jared Cook.
Mike Wright
I'm going to say out.
Jason Moore
O.J. howard.
Mike Wright
That one was weird. It's similar to Keenan Allen.
Jason Moore
Thursday he's going to be out.
Mike Wright
Just didn't practice. I think O.J. howard is out.
Jason Moore
Okay. Delaney Walker, out. Jimmy Graham, he'll play Chris Herndon.
Mike Wright
I say out.
Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
I bet we see some splashes.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah.
Mike Wright
I mean, we've already seen a few. The NFL's. If you've been following football for a while, you know that trades that are. That have happened in the recent years, they didn't used to happen. Like, I remember back when Brandon Marshall actually got traded, it was like, whoa, it was, holy crap. A big name player got traded. So hopefully we'll see some splashes. Just because it's, it's fun.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, we play fantasy. They should play fantasy.
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Andy Holloway
Fantasy forecast.
Jason Moore
All right, yesterday my two best friends, yeah. Covered the Seahawks and Falcons, Cardinals, Saints, Chargers, Bears, Jets, Jags, Giants, Lions and the Buccaneers Titans. So if you want to hear the matchup breakdowns, swing on over to yesterday's show. There'll be a giant cardboard bear there to help you as well. All right, the rest of the matchups. Let's start with this Eagles Bills game. The Eagles at three and four take on the five and one Bills. Bills at home. Bills one and a half point favorites. I think the way I describe this Buffalo Bills team this year is they just find a way. They just find a way to get it done right. It's never been. Josh Allen hasn't gone out there and thrown up the 40 point game.
Mike Wright
Not yet. I believe that those are coming. But my favorite stat nugget here we have about this matchup. Josh Allen, he leads all quarterbacks in fourth quarter comebacks. Three and game winning drives like that's. He's got that clutch gene. Great bringing his team back, putting Greg Jennings put the team on his back. But then you look at the Bills have allowed 13.2 points per game to a poison. Quarterbacks at home like they're shutting down. The opposing quarterback shouldn't need to come back and they still have to come back. There's a reason they have to come back and it's not the defense's fault.
Jason Moore
But we do expect the Bills to get it going with some of this schedule and Devin Singletary coming back and some. Yeah, there have been rumors about the Bills picking up a wide receiver to get a little help.
Mike Wright
Interesting.
Jason Moore
Now really some of some rumors out there right now.
Mike Wright
What, what need do they have because John Brown is playing.
Jason Moore
They need somebody else. I think on the outside. I think they need another outside, a bigger bodied guy. I mean Beasley, yes, he gets it done underneath and Brown is a deep threat, but neither of those guys are real.
Andy Holloway
If you added Robbie Anderson and you had Robbie Anderson on one side and John Brown on the other, that's hard to guard.
Mike Wright
I was going to say like Josh Gordon.
Jason Moore
In the mean, they need a big boy.
Andy Holloway
In the meantime, John Brown is a great play. The Eagles are dead last in fantasy points given up to wide receivers averaging 38.4 a game and they are beaten over the top constantly. That's where John Brown with the big arm from Josh Allen. That's, that's why Josh Allen's my, my start of the week this week. You know that it's just a, it's finally a really good matchup for the passing attack for the Bills.
Jason Moore
Carson Wentz on the other side. This seems like a really, really difficult one for Wentz. He's not going to have desean Jackson yet. Again. You just mentioned the Bills don't give up fantasy points when they're at home. And this is a big matchup. It's going to be tough sledding for Carson Wentz.
Mike Wright
Yeah, if you have a decent pivot at the quarterback position. I'm willing to sit Carson Wentz down for this one.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he's my quarterback 15 right now, which says I'm looking elsewhere. Obviously I'd prefer Josh Allen, but some guys that you know, Jacoby Brissette is someone that I would play over. Carson Wentz.
Jason Moore
The Eagles, the one area on the defense that they've been very successful against is fantasy points given up to the running back. I don't expect Frank Gore to have a lot of success going up the middle in this game against Philadelphia. Does this mean that. What do you think about Devin Singletary? Will he be more involved this week? He only had seven touches Are you staying away from the running game in Buffalo this week?
Andy Holloway
That's how I feel. I feel like this is. This isn't the matchup where you expect the game script to be heavily in favor of continuing to be able to run the ball. The matchup doesn't dictate that they should be able to run the ball. Now Devin Singletary could get it done with some dump off passes.
Mike Wright
That's what he needs.
Andy Holloway
Right. And he certainly has the ability. But because of the low volume, the low touch totals, I would prefer to stay away from from Singletary as well as Frank Gore in this game.
Jason Moore
It feels like a mirror on the other side. Miles Sanders needs those dump offs to give you a game and Jordan Howard. It's going to be tough sledding against the Bills defense, which is, you know, 11th in the league against the run in terms of fantasy points given up, you know, spreading. It's just going to be tough.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, if I had to pick one of those two guys on that side of the ball, I would go with Jordan Howard. Even though, you know, in this matchup the Bills are so locked down in the passing game, you just. It's so hard to pass against the Bills, but they can be beat on the ground and that's where, you know, I think your game plan has to be try to try to smash him with Jordan Howard, for what it's worth.
Jason Moore
Over the last month, he's the RB14. Jordan Howard just kind of getting it done. 9, 10 zone rush attempts. So. Yeah, I agree. I agree with you. Alshon, Jeffrey, an ugly flex play.
Mike Wright
Yeah, but he still started was a three.
Jason Moore
And then Zach Ertz, Dallas Goddard on the road here the Bills are number two in the NFL in terms of not giving up points to the tight end position. You're not really sitting Zach Ertz. No, but it was Goddard last week. They had the good game.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, you got to play Zach Ertz, but this isn't a good matchup for him. Really. The. There's no one on the eagle side of the ball that you want to play. You have to play Zach Ertz, maybe play Jordan Howard and that's it.
Mike Wright
The Bills have that the strings like here's who they've played, the jets, the Giants, Bengals, Patriots, Tennessee and Miami. So the tight end numbers can be skewed. When you have a bunch of matchups against teams that don't even use their.
Andy Holloway
Tight end, I would agree with you, except for last year they were number one at fantasy points given up against tight end averaging only 6.2 points per game. So you've got a long enough sample to say it's not. It's not great.
Jason Moore
Who do you think wins this game?
Andy Holloway
I think the Bills.
Mike Wright
Buffalo.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah. Andy's almost upset of the week.
Mike Wright
You got that green fever, man.
Andy Holloway
You got.
Mike Wright
You can't quit it.
Jason Moore
They need it.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that they do.
Mike Wright
So does Buffalo. They have to try and keep pace with the Patriots.
Jason Moore
No doubt about it. Bronco. Try to keep pace with the Patriots. How cute, Mike.
Andy Holloway
They're only a half game.
Jason Moore
Aw, is that what they're thinking in Buffalo?
Mike Wright
They're five and one, man.
Jason Moore
Oh, that's cute, isn't it?
Andy Holloway
It's adorable.
Jason Moore
Oh, my God.
Andy Holloway
It's like really, really sweet.
Jason Moore
I love. Even though I picking the Eagles in this one, I love Buffalo and I want to see them succeed. But come on. Come on, Mike. The Broncos 2 and 5 take on the Colts 4 and 2. Would you put the Colts in your top five most impressive teams this year?
Mike Wright
Well, easily. When you look when a Hall of Fame quarterback, or in my opinion he.
Andy Holloway
Would have been a Hall of Fame.
Mike Wright
Would have been there, no doubt, right before the season starts says, you know, guys, I've. I've changed my mind. I'm not doing this anymore. And you go, wait, what?
Andy Holloway
It's so crappy of him. I still think because of the time. Do it in the off season, give the team time to prepare.
Jason Moore
Don't you think it was the not recovering that. That's what piled up? It's kind of hard.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Regarding unlucky. Unlucky discussion for another time. But yes, to go to your backup quarterback and be a 4 and 2 beating teams a handful of different ways. This is not just they've said, okay, Marlon Mack, take us there. It's all on you. It's no. Jacoby Brissette's gotten it done. The defense getting done. Marlon Mack's getting it done. So yes, they have been extremely impressive to me for. For what they've been able to do.
Jason Moore
All right. This, this game, The Colts are five and a half point home favorites 43 point over under Jacoby Verset over the last month, averaging the fifth most quarterback fantasy points.
Mike Wright
A 6.8% touchdown rate. That is. That's Russell Wilson number. That's. That's a Patrick Mahomes type of number. Can he keep that going? I lean on the side. That regression will hit him. He'll return kind of to just.
Andy Holloway
He's.
Mike Wright
He's good. One of the reasons he is succeeding. Outrageous.
Andy Holloway
Yes. Those numbers are outrageously. High. Not only for the NFL average, but I believe for Jacoby Brissette's talent level. And that's not saying he's a bad quarterback. I mean, but you've got to be a Pat Mahomes to be there. But one of the reasons why I think that touchdown rate could stay is because of how it's come about. He doesn't throw the ball that much. So the touchdown rate goes up. When you are establishing Marlon Mack and this great running game with that awesome offensive line and now teams are selling out, you get near the goal line and you've got a great offensive schemer in Frank Reich who gets these tight ends.
Jason Moore
I think you're taking the words out of my mouth, Jay. I agree completely. Yeah, he's an ex. He's executing the game plan.
Andy Holloway
Exactly. And Frank Reich is just such a great coach.
Mike Wright
The one thing I'll say the knock against Frank Reich is he has the largest man who's ever walked the face of the earth on his team. Gigantor Mo Ali Cox. And he is not. Not unleashing him. Yeah, you know, it's really disappointing.
Andy Holloway
I thought he was a good coach.
Jason Moore
I was wrong because he's not using.
Andy Holloway
The giant Gigantor, our favorite.
Jason Moore
What a look.
Andy Holloway
He's clearly.
Jason Moore
You can see he's a really, really big guy.
Andy Holloway
He's huge.
Jason Moore
You can only use him Every so often.
Mike Wright
2,375Mo Ali Cox.
Jason Moore
All right. I know you love Marlon Mack this week, Jason.
Andy Holloway
He's my start of the week. He's had at least 20 touches in four of six games. He's on pace for 317 touches. And where he explodes historically is in games where they win by a wide margin. I know this is only a five and a half point Vegas line, but I think the Colts completely own this game. This could be a game that I think they win by two touchdowns. And Marlamac is going to be a big reason why.
Jason Moore
All right, and then Lindsey and Freeman, what do you do on the other side? Colts allowing 2.47 yards before contact.
Mike Wright
Yeah. The timeshare continues. Royce Freeman was the one who got the touchdown last week. I think you can play them both. I prefer. I still prefer Philip Lindsay. That's likely what we're going to say every single week. But Royce Freeman, to me, is getting enough touches. He's averaging four or more targets a game. He's interesting as a flex running back.
Jason Moore
Well, I assume you're not allowed to smirk or anything when you put them in your lineup. You have to keep.
Andy Holloway
No, no.
Jason Moore
You must.
Mike Wright
You must be deadly serious. When you're playing Broncos players of any.
Jason Moore
Sort, you must be deadly serious.
Andy Holloway
Here's something that's interesting that's happened though. Over the last two games. You've had a flip of the snap percentages. Royce Freeman, the last two games has gone up to 62 and 63% of snaps, while Philip Lindsay has gone to 47 and 40% of snaps. So while Philip Lindsay is the more explosive player, and I agree for fantasy, I would still prefer him. It's something you need to pay attention to this trend because I think Royce is starting to get more volume and that's what he needs. He's that type of player. I think Royce is not the guy that thrives in a, you know, just complete 50, 50 timeshare.
Jason Moore
It's interesting. It's definitely interesting. And their defense had started to kind of figure things out a little bit too, which, you know, you wonder how that affects game script. Cortland Sutton, you're starting.
Mike Wright
Yep.
Jason Moore
Ty Hilton, he might get some Chris Harris, but you're not benching Ty Hilton.
Mike Wright
No, he moves around too much. He goes in and out of the slot. Ty Hilton will be okay.
Jason Moore
Do you have any interest in Daeshun Hamilton, the experience without Emmanuel Sanders?
Mike Wright
I have interest in putting him on my bench and waiting to see what happens. Last year, weeks 14 through 17, he was averaging nearly 10 targets a game, different quarterback. So you have to take that with a grain of salt. But he was a. He was a PPR guy towards the end of the year. He's an excellent receiver, an excellent route runner. I'm very excited for Hamilton's future. I don't know if this is the year like next in this off season, Hamilton will be one of the. One of my favorite later round guys.
Jason Moore
I'm afraid we're going to do that every year.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, we could. For Hamilton, you know, this is year two. I think he's got the opportunity to step up and he's a good. He's a good player.
Mike Wright
We were only talking about Hamilton because Emmanuel Sanders was coming off of an injury that young players don't recover from. That's why we were interested in Hamilton. So it will be a different circumstance knowing that he is in fact the two.
Andy Holloway
I'm going to call my shot here, fellas.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
This week is a Noah fantastic week. Oh, I think this is going to be the first week where we see a very good game from Noah. Fantastic. He is in that consideration. From streaming the last couple of weeks, he's had a lot of things lined up for him and he's failed on the field.
Mike Wright
Like the ball hitting him in the face. Like the ball hitting very lined up.
Andy Holloway
That's like really good if you're you know, supposed to catch the ball and it hasn't happened. But with Emmanuel Sanders gone, I think you know those targets will go. You know they'll spread around. They're not all going to Daeshun Hamilton evenly. And this is a matchup where tight end. The Colts are beat at tight end. They're 27th against tight end. Last year they were 30th. So this is kind of how they scheme their defense. I think Noah, fantastic Noah fan. I think he has his first good game of the year this season.
Jason Moore
I think that could definitely happen. I mean you want you kind of look, glance at Daeshun to just step in for Sanders. But fans been out there every week too building a rapport.
Andy Holloway
85.5% of snaps last week for Noah fan.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that's great. Bengals, they're having a season. Oh and seven taking on the Rams.
Mike Wright
And shout out to the NFL. This is a London game and it's not starting at 6:30 in the freaking morning on the west coast.
Jason Moore
Mike's happy about that.
Mike Wright
Thank you NFL for blessing us with it. Look, they're getting their game. Everyone over there are they though. They're getting two teams that are gonna play a football game.
Jason Moore
Rams are 13 point favorites in a 48 and a half point over under. I have a hard time believing the Bengals are gonna get off the Schneiden this one. Jared Goff is Mike start of the week again, man. And then at the running back position.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Gurley's out there. Are you willing to flex Darrell Henderson?
Mike Wright
I'm willing to do it because The Bengals are 32nd against running backs.
Jason Moore
That's bad. That's a low number.
Andy Holloway
It is.
Mike Wright
Let me check the computer. It's the lowest you can go and in Todd Gurley is not going to get everything for this team. So even though it'll be a lower touch them out for Henderson, I think he can succeed.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I would still have a hard time putting him in but certainly you could rip something off and have success. But I would rather have someone that I am more assured of the touches I hate. You know what sucks?
Jason Moore
Joe Mixon.
Andy Holloway
I feel like they should not say that London games are home games. It's not fair. Oh yeah. Because when you look at the schedule weeks in advance, you know I'm looking at. Okay. You know You've got the great schedule against Atlanta, and then he's home against Cincinnati. And you're like, for Jared Goff, it.
Jason Moore
Was like, well, he's not a home game.
Andy Holloway
He's in London town.
Mike Wright
Well, what about when teams have guys like Sir Arthur Francis? That's probably a home game for that guy.
Andy Holloway
Well, sure. I just. He's on waivers.
Jason Moore
I don't know. I. I don't know what to do with Joe Mixon.
Andy Holloway
You.
Jason Moore
I mean, you look at these games.
Mike Wright
Darrell Henderson or Joe Mix and Jason.
Jason Moore
That's a. That's a real question.
Andy Holloway
That is a real question.
Jason Moore
That should be a real one.
Andy Holloway
At that point, I would go, Joe Mixon.
Jason Moore
Joe Mixon has more. More of these. Absolutely, astronomically low. I mean, you did see 10 carries, 2 yards last week, 8 for 10 the week before. Impressive 6 for 10 against Seattle, 11 for 17 against San Francisco.
Mike Wright
He has four games where he has been held to 1.67 yards per attempt or fewer. Oh, my God, four games.
Jason Moore
It's really.
Mike Wright
Stop. Stop punching yourself in the face. And playing Joe Mixon.
Andy Holloway
Yes, I completely agree. So when we say, okay, Joe Mixon or Darrell Henderson, and I've got to say, Joe Mixon, I want to bench Joe Mixon. I am benching Joe Mixon. I think you can do better than either of those players.
Jason Moore
I think opportunity or mixing.
Andy Holloway
Mopportunity. 100 out of 100. David Montgomery, for sure over Joe Mixon.
Mike Wright
Royce Freeman.
Andy Holloway
Royce Freeman, exactly. If you've got a guy who's going to touch the ball. Frank Gore. Bad matchup. I think I would rather have Frank Gore than Joe Mixon.
Mike Wright
Jordan Howard against Jordan Howard. Okay.
Andy Holloway
You know, Joe Mixon is a guy I want to bench until things get right. And things might just not get right.
Jason Moore
Let me ask you this. Do you miss Marvin Lewis? It's a real question. He's getting head coaching attention right now.
Andy Holloway
No.
Mike Wright
No, he's not.
Jason Moore
Absolutely. Because of the success Arizona State's having with him on coaching staff.
Mike Wright
Oh, gosh.
Jason Moore
And the Bengals. The Bengals have yet to win a game without him.
Mike Wright
Yes. That is very accurate.
Jason Moore
It's just comical players.
Andy Holloway
This is not his fault. This isn't Zach Taylor's fault.
Jason Moore
Well, Marvin Lewis didn't have any players.
Andy Holloway
Marvin Lewis had a Green.
Mike Wright
He had an offensive line.
Jason Moore
Yeah, not last year. Yeah. It's just. It's really ugly right now. That's got to feel real, real bad as the new head coach to just kind of like every week you got to get more and more, more and more. Tense as it goes on. All right, Tyler Boyd, where are you with him? A lot of people asking, like, rest of season. Tyler Boyd, Are you scared? I mean, he's getting targeted. He's had a couple of rough weeks in a row, but the targets are there. But these are Dalton targets.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Not only are these Dalton Dalton targets, I mean, 14 targets for five receptions. Yuck. But now you've got Jalen Ramsey. This is, you know, if he ends up half of the game on Tyler Boyd, I assume you're going to have another bunch of targets that don't matter. He's a guy that I'm certainly not excited to start. He's had two big games this year and outside of that, you've been disappointed with almost every week.
Jason Moore
Robert woods cup cooks. They're all in your lineup.
Mike Wright
Yep, I'm going to play them all.
Jason Moore
Still not chasing no Alex Erickson points from last week?
Mike Wright
No. I'll go with Auden Tate, though. I think he's an okay flex play.
Jason Moore
And you still giving the wink to Gerald Everett this week, Mike?
Mike Wright
I was just going to say Mount Everett. Gerald Everett. He has been getting it done the last three weeks. 22, 20, 26% target share. He is getting more and more involved. I know that Jason refuses to buy in that this is happening, but he is coming around. He's a tight end. One until he's not.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah. And I am coming around. You know, in my rankings right now, I do have him as my tight end. Eight this week. So you can't say I hate him too much.
Jason Moore
Ever to Watson.
Andy Holloway
Oh, I would go Gerald Everett there.
Mike Wright
Ever.
Jason Moore
Yeah, obviously. All right. Panthers four and two. 49ers, still undefeated. 49ers, five and a half point favorites at home in this one. I think it's a little higher than I'd expect. It's a 42 point over under.
Mike Wright
It's a little lower than I would expect.
Jason Moore
Oh, really?
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Okay. Well, maybe it's right where it needs to be.
Andy Holloway
They've set a good line where people will bet both sides.
Jason Moore
Yeah, Seriously. Well, the Panthers have been so impressive under Kyle Allen and with Christian McCaffrey coming out of the buy, I, you know, last week the 49ers got it done, but just barely in the. In the sloppy, wet Washington game. So Jimmy Garoppolo getting it done, but for fantasy purposes, probably not playing him this week.
Mike Wright
No. And you're hoping that the addition of Emmanuel Sanders, giving him a. An actual top tier type of wide receiver to go to, it should help Garoppolo I mean, think back. It was a while ago, it was a missed season ago when he earned his money, when he earned his big contract, he was throwing on a pace for 5,000 yards in a season and it was over the course and it was only five games. But he was balling out. He was a 300 yard machine. So it's not that he can't do it, but with this defense and the running game going the way it is, will they ever put it on the shoulders of Jimmy Garoppolo? That's they want to. They've added Emmanuel Sanders, so. But I'm not going to play him until I see it happen.
Jason Moore
I think they want to. I don't think they want to. I think they want to be able to. So Sanders should help them. But they run more than anybody in football. Number one run play percentage. And this week, you know, Tevin Coleman, you're going to play him. Are you playing Matt Burrida after last week?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Moore
I don't. Some people are making a lot of, oh, you know, no more touches after he got cleared to come. I mean, that game was a mess and he got poked in the eye and concussed and.
Mike Wright
Yes. And I'm not worried about Matt Burrito.
Jason Moore
All right, this Christian McCaffrey fella, you gonna start him?
Andy Holloway
Yes. I'm so happy to have you back, buddy.
Jason Moore
By the way, do you think Emmanuel Sanders negatively affects George Kittle's target market share at all?
Andy Holloway
He could for sure because they haven't had another wide receiver that's been separating getting open. They now have someone that will for sure do that. This matchup, it's not, you know, the Panthers haven't really faced any great tight ends. They're top 10 against tight end and top 10 against quarterback. So say, okay, if the number one option here is Kittle, that's not good. But then you look at their schedule and assuming you are not saying O.J. howard is like a difficult matchup.
Mike Wright
Right.
Andy Holloway
Because they have played Tampa Bay twice. You know, I think George Kittle is fine here and I'm not spooked by the current season rankings of the Panthers as a top 10 tight end defense.
Mike Wright
I was going to point out for when I was referring to the line and yeah, Kyle Allen said success, he's winning, he's an undefeated quarterback. But he's played Arizona, Houston, Jacksonville and Tampa. He hasn't faced a defense anywhere close to the level that San Francisco is playing right now.
Jason Moore
And now he's on the road. Yeah, it's going to be face a really, really difficult passing defense.
Mike Wright
D.J.
Jason Moore
Moore, Curtis Samuel, I assume you're tempering expectations.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I'm fading them both. You're much like Sammy Watkins. Like, I have Curtis Samuel on my team. I'm. I'm kind of forced to play him or pick up someone up off of the waiver wire. And those players are on the waiver wire for a reason is Curtis Samuel. He can hit a big play, 14.8. That's his average depth of target. So he's getting those air yards. He's got the same air yards as Chris Godwin. So I. He's. He's desperation. But I'm fading both of them has.
Jason Moore
So Christian McCaffrey facing the 49ers. 49ers have yet to allow a top 12 running back performance. Something's got to give.
Andy Holloway
I think that they will give up a top 12 running back performance. Now, that's not as far as a team total. They might not, but Christian McCaffrey will be top 12. Even in this difficult matchup, the volume just ensures that the. I think the biggest question mark here is the wide receivers on both sides. You just brought up Curtis Samuel and we did talk about Emmanuel Sanders a little bit, but where people need to know they've been starting. Do you start Emmanuel Sanders and who do you start him over? Who do you start over him when it comes to?
Jason Moore
I have almost no confidence in starting Emmanuel Sanders in his debut.
Andy Holloway
Okay. Would you rather start Emmanuel Sanders or Auden Tate?
Jason Moore
Well, in that case, I might. I might take the shot at.
Andy Holloway
Okay. What about the allure of A.J. brown, new quarterback?
Mike Wright
Would you go A.J.
Andy Holloway
Brown?
Jason Moore
I play A.J. brown.
Mike Wright
Plus matchup for the Titans.
Jason Moore
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
Yeah. All right. Raiders three and three taking on the Texans. Texans six and a half point home favorites 51 and a half point over under Desean Watson. You play him?
Mike Wright
Yep.
Andy Holloway
Agreed.
Mike Wright
Well, sometimes it doesn't have to be hard.
Jason Moore
Right.
Mike Wright
Check this out. Derek Carr.
Jason Moore
Nope.
Mike Wright
No, easy.
Jason Moore
Carlos Hyde. Duke Johnson.
Mike Wright
Sure. Carlos Hyde. Carlos Hyde is. Had an. Actually, it's a pretty good season overall. You have to be impressed with what he has done after he was left for dead by all of us.
Jason Moore
It's pretty rare for I look in.
Mike Wright
The mirror and say Carlos Hyde was on, what was it, three teams in a calendar year? Four teams. I can't even keep track because he keeps moving all over the place. But he's got the confidence of Bill O'Brien and he's getting work and he's usually succeeding.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it's kind of like AP Right now.
Mike Wright
Right.
Jason Moore
Confidence of a coach. Hand them a ball enough times, you could do work.
Mike Wright
Except he's on a very high powered offense, so touchdown opportunities are greater.
Jason Moore
Sure, Josh Jacobs seems like a very scary play here with the injury concerns, but he's been great when he's been on the field.
Andy Holloway
So I'm not scared to play Josh Jacobs.
Mike Wright
I'm playing him as well.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I don't think that his shoulder injury is going to limit his production in this game.
Jason Moore
Interesting. All right, well, he's been very, very good and I think he's got a good second half ahead of him if he can stay healthy.
Mike Wright
Finally getting targets too.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Three targets each of the last two weeks.
Jason Moore
That team is interesting. Oakland. They seem to have flashes of just misery and then greatness throughout a whole game. I mean, Waller, obviously you're putting them out there.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah. Yes.
Jason Moore
Raiders give up the most 20 plus yard plays. Just takes one. He just takes one for Kenny Bills.
Mike Wright
That's his specialty. 20 yard plays.
Jason Moore
I like that you guys tried to make my like, you know, the fact I'm willing to start him in this matchup, the circumstance, I'm just like a big lifetime Kenny Stills fan. Now I'm finally on board.
Andy Holloway
That was. That's the funniest part to us, the part we love the most is the fact that it's like we have been Kenny Stills truthers.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And you've been such a hater.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And now you're on our side.
Jason Moore
I'm not on your side.
Andy Holloway
You love him.
Jason Moore
Not for him.
Andy Holloway
You want to marry him.
Jason Moore
I am. I am on your side this week.
Andy Holloway
Sitting in a tree. Yeah. No, it feels good.
Jason Moore
Yeah. No, no, no, that's. That's accurate. Tyrell, you said you'd start him if he plays.
Mike Wright
Yes, I would start him. All right, Great matchup. Texans 30th against fantasy wide receivers.
Andy Holloway
I will say this. We glossed over Derek Carr as just a complete no. But in a two quarterback league, I think this matchup against the Texans, he's not. I don't see him being a bottom 10 quarterback like he is often.
Jason Moore
I agree with you.
Andy Holloway
I think he's going to be one of those middle of the line, you know, when you're deciding between do you play as your second wide receiver, Dalton or Derek Carr? You know, I'm going Carr in this match. Oh, wow. It's been a while for that.
Jason Moore
Drop two quarterback league. That was that. All right, Browns, Patriots, let's have a good time. Patriots 13 point favorites, 46 point over under. Okay, here we go. Baker Mayfield. Enjoy yourself. Jarvis Landry says we're going to win. So fantasy wise, go ahead, Jay.
Andy Holloway
They're coming off the bye week, so they've got extra time to prepare and research and say, okay, this is where it's not going to matter.
Mike Wright
Do people, when they're. When they're breaking down the film, like, okay, we got to take down the Patriots.
Andy Holloway
Do you.
Mike Wright
Is it like a horror movie where they're watching and they're just. People are tense, real nervous, and then you see the big play by the DST and everyone goes, yeah, I think that's what happened.
Andy Holloway
They've got the.
Mike Wright
You look like the lady in Game of Thrones who just saw her boyfriend get his head smashed.
Andy Holloway
Okay, here's the thing. I want to bring up the most in this game because nobody's going to start Baker in this matchup that's outlandish. Even if he has a good game, the process says there's no way, you know, I would start Derek Carr over Baker without a shadow of a doubt. But listen to this. These are the positional ranks, okay? 42, 3, 46, 68, 61, 16. And now you play against New England. Now, I'm talking about Odell Beckham Jr. A guy who has only two good weeks on the season. Now going up against either the most difficult or the second most difficult matchup for wide receivers where they take away your number one option.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean, the majority opinion out there right now, or at least mine, is that Stefan Gilmore is probably the best corner in football.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
And between that, the scheme being at home. Look, Beckham can always be fine for you with one Beckham play. And I will say banking now, you don't get the base, the baseline with the upside, you get super low floor or miracle play.
Mike Wright
So juju, scary juju, like as far as actual top talent at the wide receiver position that the Patriots have faced in their ridiculous schedule that has been set forth, Juju came through with six for 78. Terry McLaurin had over 50 yards. And besides that, then it's Miami, the Jets without one time without Sam Darnold. I mean, they haven't faced.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, but they're facing the Browns and Baker. I'm saying without the New England Patriots. Fidel has been terrible.
Mike Wright
I'm factoring. But wide receiver talent, Odo Beckham can get it done. I totally see where you're saying that you should not be worried or afraid to bench Odell Beckham if you have a solid option this week.
Andy Holloway
Okay, so here's. Here's.
Mike Wright
He's not a must bench for me.
Andy Holloway
Here's the option. Would you start Odell Beckham against New England or Marvin Jones against the New York Giants?
Mike Wright
Wow.
Andy Holloway
I mean that. You know what I mean? Like that.
Mike Wright
That's probability wise. It's more likely for Marvin Jones to have a bigger game.
Jason Moore
Emotional wise. Not many people want to lose with Odell on the bench.
Andy Holloway
Correct.
Jason Moore
But that doesn't make it the right decision.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I feel like I'm scared to play Odell in this matchup against Gilmore where I expect Baker Mayfield to have a healthy diet of grass. Yeah, it's going to eat a lot of dirt.
Jason Moore
He probably will. Sony Michelle. Three touchdowns last week. James White. Who? James White feels like the invisible fantasy point scorer in the league. He just kind of does it. Leads the running backs and targets per game.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
He gets a handoff here, handoff there.
Andy Holloway
He's such a good. Like if you're in a double flex league or he's just so rock steady. Is that a phrase?
Jason Moore
It is.
Andy Holloway
I did it.
Mike Wright
It's also one of the best bad guys of all time.
Andy Holloway
But yeah, that's true. You know, I love having James White in there just for. You're never going to end up just with a fart of a week.
Mike Wright
That's true. But he has. He's only got one explosive game.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, but that's not what you're looking for from him.
Jason Moore
All this fart and explosive talk is really. Oh, he's not feeling good. Rumbling Julian Edelman. Okay, you're going to play him. Anyone outside of Edelman that you have any pass catching confidence in? Mohammed Sanu will probably be slowly eased into this rotation.
Mike Wright
Because of that, I'm still willing to put Dorsett in. He had the touchdown. He had the big play. He's out on the field a whole bunch.
Andy Holloway
The Browns defensive backs have been universally catastrophically injured this year. They lost four DBs at one point. They were playing with like third stringers. They are getting much more healthy. I don't know everybody who's back, but I do expect the Browns defense to be significantly better after the buy than it was before the buy. So I think the, the, you know, the Philip Dorsets, I'm. I'm less optimistic of playing them this week.
Jason Moore
All right. That must be out of practice. We're gonna have a longer show today, guys. Packers, Chiefs, Chiefs are five and two right now. Packers are three and a half point road favorites against this Matt Moore led offense.
Mike Wright
And Vegas is still giving the Chiefs an implied team total of nearly 22 points even with Matt Moore.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I think. I think we all know that Matt Moore can make a play. It's just kind of how much trouble does he get himself into potentially? How much, how many risks? You know, they don't have Kareem Hunt to kind of lean on, right, as this anchor back. They have to lean on Shady and Damian Williams and they're not going to be as effective as running backs Andy Reid has had in the past. So Matt Moore will have to try to do something. I think I'm just scared of whether he will do something.
Andy Holloway
Right. I think that's where Mike is giving people confidence. I'm into Shady this week in Lashawn McCoy. They're going to need him. That's been a place where the packers have been able to beat. You know, they've been beat on the ground this year repeatedly. So Shady last week, 43% of snaps compared to 28% for Damian Williams. 14 touches compared to 10. So shady should be a decent option here.
Jason Moore
By the way, breaking news. O.J. howard is out. Officially out.
Andy Holloway
Cameron Brait. Look, I get it, he's got a low floor, but every single tight end out there has a low floor. You want touchdown upside since 2016. So the last four seasons, there are only three tight ends that have more touchdowns than Cameron Bray. And those are Jimmy Graham, Kelsey and someone else. I'm doing this off the top of my head. I just looked this up this morning, but there were three. Oh, it's Ebron. It's Ebron.
Jason Moore
Oh, you remembered it.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
That was good. I could see you searching. Then you got to number two. I'm like, oh, he's on a roll. He's got it.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And then I lost it. I got it back.
Jason Moore
I mean, completed the catch. No edits. No edits. Yeah.
Mike Wright
Upon further review, we saw it. The call on the field was incomplete though.
Andy Holloway
Right. But then it got. It got reversed.
Jason Moore
All right, tough decisions in this game, wide receiver wise for the Packers. What are you doing there?
Andy Holloway
I feel like what you're doing is playing Russian roulette. Yes. MVS had a major game last week. It looked great. He had three targets and his big long touchdown should have been a 10 yard reception, but it was a missed tackle. He obviously has the talent to do it. He's got the speed, the size, the ability to break a tackle. I'm not taking anything away from him. But what I am saying is you're playing Russian roulette. There are too many. You know, Alan Lazar Jake Kumaro, Geronimo Allison, mvs. The only one, the only pass catcher that I'm confident starting, assuming Devonte Adams is out, would be Jimmy Graham because he's at the position where you kind of have to, you know, grab some.
Jason Moore
He's always got a chance of at a touchdown.
Mike Wright
The reports are coming in. Devonte Adams did participate in individual drills for the first time since week four. He was helmetless, running some half speed routes.
Andy Holloway
That looks like he's on track for next week. That's how I interpret that.
Jason Moore
All right. Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams. Last week, Jamal Williams, 40% of snaps. Are you playing both of these guys?
Mike Wright
Yeah, it's very similar to the Broncos. This is a timeshare where I'm okay playing both guys. Aaron Jones has been sensational, especially when he's been given the full opportunity. But Aaron Jones touchdown. The Chiefs are 24th against fantasy running backs. High probability of getting a goal line carry or two from Aaron Jones. So I play him with full confidence and I flex Jamal Williams in. He's getting enough work.
Jason Moore
We all done with Damian Williams?
Andy Holloway
Yep, I think so. I mean, you got to roster him. You're not dropping them, but I don't think you're playing.
Jason Moore
What about all that talent, Jay? All that talent going to waste.
Andy Holloway
I am so vindicated right now on my Mitchell Trubisky and Damian Williams talentless comments of last year. That looked stupid for like a very small stretch of time. Take that, you guys.
Jason Moore
Stick it to him. All right. Monday Night Football Dolphins, Steelers. Steelers are 14 point favorites. I like the Steelers defense a lot this week at home.
Mike Wright
Yep.
Jason Moore
Against Miami.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, the Steelers defense has been great.
Jason Moore
Not that you play anybody above the Patriots, but they're in that upper echelon this week. The Steelers defense, they have a play point Total of 28.5 points at home against the Dolphins. Mason Rudolph back. Ryan Fitzpatrick fitzpatricking.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, James Conner is a must start. He's going to be excellent off the by. He appears to be healthy even if Jalen Samuels is out there. There's, you know, James Conner is a must start. I think Juju Smith Schuster is a must start. This is a matchup where, you know, he, he can easily break a long touchdown in this matchup. Outside of that, even though you've got a high implied team total, I don't know if you want to trust a Deontay Johnson. Would you go with anyone else? Vance McDonald?
Jason Moore
Probably not. There's just not a lot of confidence in those other pass catchers. Do you think juju gets it going this year at all?
Andy Holloway
No, I don't think he gets it going. As far as becoming a dominant fantasy force. I think that's the only. If he doesn't become a dominant fantasy force, we're never going to say he gets it going, but I think he's going to be a consistent higher end wide receiver, too, which is a huge disappointment, but a guy that you play week in and week out.
Jason Moore
All right, Preston Williams, devonte Parker. You guys have talked about Parker three. Three straight games with a touchdown. The Steelers, though, the way that their defense is playing coming off the buy at home, must win, blah, blah, blah.
Mike Wright
It's in the realm of possibilities, though.
Jason Moore
I mean, that you would start him. Would you start devontae Parker over Odell? No way.
Mike Wright
No, no, no. It's. I'm not going that far. I'm just saying, like, look at this game from last night, Washington against Minnesota. And Minnesota's defense had been just annihilating people, and Washington had no chance in the game. They only lost by 10 points, and there was not really a lot of fantasy action to go around. But the quarterback went down at the halfway mark. I'm just saying that these matchups on paper look horrifically bad, but the wide receivers for Miami, they've been putting up points. Maybe they're. Maybe they're stinky, stinky garbage points, but they still count.
Andy Holloway
Well, I mean, look, Devonte Parker last week was wide receiver 16, and that was against the Buffalo Bills.
Mike Wright
That was right.
Andy Holloway
I mean, who's.
Mike Wright
That's my point.
Andy Holloway
Better against wide receivers, Buffalo or the Steelers? Buffalo.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
So I think you could do worse than devonta Parker, but it is a response.
Mike Wright
Did not have very much confidence.
Jason Moore
Buffalo.
Andy Holloway
Buffalo.
Mike Wright
Sure, why not?
Andy Holloway
I'll take Buffalo.
Mike Wright
Is that how you order, like your wings?
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Mike Wright
What flavor of wings would you like, sir?
Andy Holloway
Medium.
Mike Wright
No, you just say Buffalo. Oh, that was the joke, Jason.
Andy Holloway
Buffalo.
Jason Moore
That's exactly how New England talks when someone says, buffalo's competing with you in the division to win the division crown.
Andy Holloway
Buffalo.
Mike Wright
Buffalo.
Jason Moore
Anything else from this game you guys want to touch on?
Mike Wright
No, just keep your eye on Mark Walton. He's been getting work and looking okay. So he's an okay player to put on your bench.
Jason Moore
Working, looking okay.
Mike Wright
Mark Walton.
Andy Holloway
Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mark Waltberg.
Jason Moore
I'm kind of looking okay, huh?
Andy Holloway
Say hi to your mother for me. Ballers on a Budget presented by fanduel.
Jason Moore
Buffalo. All right, who's your ballers on a budget? DFS bargain pick for the week.
Andy Holloway
So I You know, one of the. One of the tips and tricks is to find players who have not been adjusted based on moves, based on injuries or things like that. To me, that's Calvin Ridley.
Mike Wright
I love it.
Andy Holloway
I think that Matt Ryan is going to play this week. Obviously, if Matt Ryan does not play, then pivot. But assuming Matt Ryan is playing, Muhammad Sanu is not. Calvin Ridley has been on the field for like, he's been in the 60s of snap percentage. That's going to shoot up to at least the 80s. He's a fantastic talent. The matchup against Seattle is great. He's only $5,400 at the wide receiver position, which is where I like to get the cheap guys. So I can pay up for a Christian McCaffrey. That's my ballerina budget for FanDuel.
Jason Moore
We all pick $5,400.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man, we need a budget pick. You get an extra hundred, you get an extra hundred. You get it.
Mike Wright
But we're trying to save 100.
Andy Holloway
I know, but 55.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Well, we're fools.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
All right, Mike, who do you got, by the way? I just saw it and I like it.
Mike Wright
Oh, very nice. I really like the Calvin Ridley. I like all three of these guys. I'm going with J.D. mcKissick, running back Smooches. Running back for the Detroit lions. It's only $5,400. And yes, we're all excited for. For Ty Johnson.
Andy Holloway
We.
Mike Wright
I was in on trying to get him, throwing a bunch of fab at him, but I didn't really get him anywhere. But the fact is we don't know what the real split will be once they have time to game plan. Okay, now we know it's ty Johnson and J.D. mcKissick. This last week. They were thrown in a position where carry on, Johnson was their guy, but then got hurt. Okay, Ty Johnson just go take over for now. McKissick could be involved more than we're planning for. He gets the Giants. The Giants have allowed over 30 fantasy points to the running back position for three straight weeks. The matchup is delicious. I like Ty Johnson, but just saying, 5,400 for the pass catcher. Very interesting.
Jason Moore
Well, Ty Johnson's cheap, too.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's what I was.
Jason Moore
And I would have made Ty Johnson my pick, but I. He's going to be very, very high ownership.
Mike Wright
Yes, he will. It's a nice pivot for the ownership.
Jason Moore
McKissick feels to me like going the Kumaro versus Lazard direction. And it paid off. You know, if you went kumaro the lower ownership percentage still at a bargain. I think you're right. I mean, they haven't been able to run the ball super well regardless, so the passing game could be involved here.
Andy Holloway
So I like JD McKissick at 5400 in general and I totally get the pivoting off the chalk. But Ty Johnson is 5200 and is probably the guy that's going to have the bigger game. So he's my baller on a budget.
Jason Moore
He's at 5200.
Andy Holloway
I believe so. Yes.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean that's where it's really difficult.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Because I can't imagine not playing ty Johnson at 5200 over McKissick. Over McKissick. Devin Singletary, I'm going to go with him 5400, second week back. Could get more involvement in the passing game. His snap counts have gone up in all the games that he's progressively been able to play. I think he's one of the lowest cost running backs that has actual electric upside when he touches the ball. It can be a house call and then it can pay off for you at the 5,400. So I think Devin Singletary, I realized that, look, the Eagles have been really good against the run, but Singletary does a little bit more on the outside edges, the areas where they're not as strong, those tackling corners. And he can get involved in the passing game. Don't miss your chance to win an all expenses paid trip to hang out with us.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
Ballers.
Jason Moore
Ballers.
Mike Wright
Buffalo.
Jason Moore
I was about to hit it.
Andy Holloway
I just, I wanted to vet. I just, I wanted to vet. To make sure that Ty Johnson was actually 5200 because I felt like that was wrong.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Is correct.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. There you go.
Mike Wright
Yeah. This is one of those, like Hunter Henry last week where the price, they set the price and then they don't alter it.
Jason Moore
But I don't think I be. I'd mind mixing a little bit, you know, because of the ownership of Ty Johnson being so high. Having a few lineups with JD McKissick at a similar price.
Andy Holloway
Sure.
Jason Moore
Just to kind of be, you know.
Andy Holloway
One of those two guys is going to have a great game.
Jason Moore
Yeah. That's. I think that's fair. Matthew Stafford is playing so well right now.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
And they just can't win. All right, we want to thank today's studio sponsor, Pristine Auction, a Keenan Allen signed jersey. Holy moly.
Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
That's not fair.
Mike Wright
The guy missed one practice.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
Yeah, you want to get a cool gift this holidays, you know, we gave.
Jason Moore
I believe, a very cool signed Keenan Allen jersey to a friend of ours.
Mike Wright
We did from Prestige. It was the powder blue. It was delightful.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I wanted to keep it.
Mike Wright
I wanted to keep it too, but.
Andy Holloway
But here we are being nice friends.
Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
Yeah, I'll be there an hour before.
Jason Moore
Brooks will be back next week, too.
Andy Holloway
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Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Week 8 Matchups + In-or-Out, Dad Returns! Release Date: October 25, 2019
The Fantasy Footballers Podcast kicks off Week 8 with hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright diving deep into the latest NFL matchups, player performances, injury updates, and strategic fantasy football advice. With their signature blend of astute analysis and entertaining banter, the trio ensures listeners are well-prepared to dominate their fantasy leagues.
The hosts begin by dissecting Washington's unconventional offensive strategy. Mike Wright highlights, “Since 1970, only three teams have run 41 snaps in consecutive games, and players are fewer twice in the same season.” This low snap count impacts key players like Terry McLaurin, whose opportunities are limited despite his prowess. Jason Moore emphasizes, “If you're a McLaurin owner, just be saying your prayers for Case Keenum. You need him back.” The trio discusses how Washington's strategy, reminiscent of Bill Callahan's approach, struggles to secure wins, rendering certain player performances less impactful in fantasy contexts.
In a heated discussion, the hosts evaluate the Eagles' matchup against the Bills, focusing on quarterback performances. Jason Moore praises Josh Allen, noting his clutch gene with three fourth-quarter comebacks, while Andy Holloway contrasts him with Carson Wentz of the Eagles. Andy states at [07:05]: “Have hope. As of right now, he is the quarterback one on the week.” The consensus leans towards favoring Allen over Wentz, given the Bills' strong defensive record against quarterbacks at home.
The Colts' surprising performance under backup quarterback Jacoby Brissette captivates the hosts. Mike Wright commends the Colts’ resilience, calling them “extremely impressive for what they've been able to do.” Jason Moore agrees, highlighting Marlon Mack's pivotal role and Royce Freeman's growing involvement as a flex option. Andy Holloway predicts, “Marlon Mack is going to be a big reason why they win.” The Colts are seen as a fantasy goldmine this week, with their offense outpacing expectations despite a challenging schedule.
Turning to the Packers vs. Chiefs game, the discussion centers on Matt Moore's efficiency against a formidable Chiefs defense. Jason Moore expresses skepticism about Moore’s ability to consistently produce fantasy points, stating, “How much trouble does he get himself into potentially? How many risks?” In contrast, Andy Holloway supports Shady and Lashawn McCoy as reliable running backs, appreciating the Packers' run-heavy strategy against the Chiefs' somewhat vulnerable run defense.
The Patriots' matchup against the Browns brings attention to James White's steady performance despite offensive fluctuations. Mike Wright encourages starting James Conner and Juju Smith-Schuster, noting the Patriots' potent home defense. Andy Holloway underscores the importance of reliable options, saying, “James Conner is a must start. Juju Smith-Schuster is a must start.” The Patriots are viewed as strong contenders, particularly given their defensive prowess and strategic offensive plays.
The hosts provide comprehensive updates on player statuses, advising listeners on who to start or bench based on recent injuries and performance trends.
The trio shares their personal fantasy starts for the week, emphasizing consistency and favorable matchups.
In the “Ballers on a Budget” segment, the hosts recommend cost-effective players who can provide significant value in daily fantasy sports (DFS):
Andy notes at [61:12]: “Calvin Ridley has been on the field for like, he's been in the 60s of snap percentage. That's going to shoot up to at least the 80s.”
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in lighthearted exchanges that add entertainment value:
While the episode includes sponsor segments for Simply Safe and Pristine Auction, these sections are brief and seamlessly integrated without disrupting the main content. The hosts promote products relevant to their audience, such as home security systems and fantasy football merchandise.
Wrapping up, the Fantasy Footballers reiterate their fantasy forecasts, encourage community engagement through social media channels, and tease upcoming content. The hosts express enthusiasm for the week ahead, assuring listeners of their continued support and expert advice to enhance their fantasy football experience.
Andy Holloway closes: “Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on JoinTheFoot.com and follow us on TwitterFFballers.”
This comprehensive analysis provides fantasy football enthusiasts with the insights and recommendations needed to make informed decisions for Week 8, blending expert opinions with engaging dialogue to ensure listeners are both informed and entertained.