Week 8 Studs & Duds + Blackout Week, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/27

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast – Week 8 Studs & Duds + Blackout Week, Monday Punday (10/27/2025)

Overview

This episode kicks off a "spooky" week in fantasy football as Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright recap a “gross” and injury-ridden NFL Sunday. The crew delivers their hallmark wit and expert analysis on Week 8's wild results, with discussions on standout (stud and dud) performances, devastating injuries, and the overall unpredictability of the week—one labeled as “Blackout Week” for its utter chaos and fantasy heartbreak. Listeners are treated to entertaining puns, relatable venting about bad fantasy beats, and actionable advice as the season hits its pivotal stretch.

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Key Themes and Discussion Points

1. Week 8 Was Wild, Lopsided, & Injury-Ridden (01:35–04:59)

• Lowest number of close games on a Sunday since 1970.
• Multiple blowouts, poor football quality, and key injuries.
• The hosts lament the devastation of losing favorite players, notably Cam Skattebo (Andy’s favorite)—who suffered a severe, season-ending dislocation and fracture.
• Reference to community heartbreak, citing that favorite “energy guys” being sidelined not only impacts teams but the fantasy fun.

“I would have looked down, saw that, and I would have ascended.” – Andy (04:50)
“He just brings energy and fun to the game – it was awful.” – Andy (02:55)

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2. Crushing Fantasy Losses & “Bad Beats” (05:23–07:45)

• Andy shares back-to-back fantasy losses by a total margin of 2.3 points, recalling the gut-wrenching drama of Mondays gone wrong (Josh Jacobs hope dashed by second-half script).
• The trio discuss the impact of injuries and snap management on fantasy outcomes, like Josh Jacobs’ reduced usage due to lead/injury issues.

“I want the swift execution, not to be slowly hacked apart. No, I don’t want to die by a thousand cuts.” – Andy (07:47)

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3. Monday Punday & Halloween Themed Name Puns (08:00–10:30)

• The team jokes through player nickname puns—ranging from “Kraft Yak and Cheese” to “Christian Crapfree” and “Jordan Meowson.”
• Halloween spirit: “Troy Franklinstein!” (08:28)

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4. Injuries and Notable News (11:33–15:32)

• Major injury updates, including Tyler Lockett rumored to the Raiders and the Lamar Jackson/Ravens’ injury reporting controversy.
• Saquon Barkley’s (NYG) groin scare—believed not serious—with evidence Tank Bigsby is definitive backup and should be rostered.
• Marvin Mims enters concussion protocol; poorly performing Broncos and injuries affect the fantasy outlook going into the bye weeks.

“Even just the way he responded—he’s sitting with an air cast on a broken leg, rallying his troops…I would have been passed out.” – Mike (04:46)

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5. Vegas Knows – Oddsmakers Insights (16:08–17:25)

• The hosts marveled at how oddsmakers correctly predicted Houston's dominance over San Francisco, despite public skepticism.
• San Francisco had the lowest first-half time of possession in 15 years—a total beat down.

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6. Studs: Top Performances and Fantasy Impacts (21:26–42:51)

Quarterbacks (21:32–26:18)

• Jordan Love (GB) finishes as QB1—vindicating Jason’s “start of the week” call, after prior struggles.
• Drake Maye, Jalen Hurts, Justin Herbert, Joe Flacco (CIN) round out the top 5. Flacco’s “irrational belief” continues.
• Joe Flacco’s torrid connection with Jamar Chase: “In three games, he has 54 targets with Joe Flacco…pacing for 308 targets.” (11:02)
• Justin Fields post-game interview: “so vulnerable,” a notable moment of humanity (24:12).

Running Backs (26:18–36:47)

• Jonathan Taylor's (IND) three-quarters of nuclear production—“the fastest and strongest man alive.” (27:17)
• James Cook (BUF) and Breece Hall (NYJ) erupt with big games.
• Breece Hall directly asked for extra opportunities (“If Garrett’s not here, I need 20–25 touches…if we’re going to lose, go down on me.”) (29:00)
• Saquon Barkley finally posts a monster game.
• Chase Brown, Samaje Perine, RJ Harvey receive shout-outs; Harvey is flagged as a sell-high with a fluky “breakout” based on big plays, not new workload (33:01).

Wide Receivers (36:47–41:29)

• Troy Franklin (DEN) tops WR scorers, a product of Dallas’ soft defense.
• Michael Pittman (IND): now WR7 on season, “quietly the right draft pick.”
• Jalen Waddle (MIA) and Jamar Chase (CIN) rack up big usage; Chase saw 19 targets.

“He caught a touchdown with his bicep!” – Andy (37:56)

• Khalil Shakir, Roman Wilson, Kayshon Boutte, and notably DK Metcalf (“required to have 50–60 yards and a score each week”) discussed as up-and-down options.
• The team urges listeners not to harass players on social media for fantasy results—Matthew Golden (GB) deactivating IG after backlash (40:11):

“Never tag a player—unless it’s something nice... They don’t care. They’re trying.” – Mike (40:50)

Tight Ends (42:05–42:51)

• Tucker Kraft, Dallas Goedert, Arande Gadsden, Harold Fannin, and Mason Taylor recapped as top scorers of “National Tight Ends Week.”
• A rare bright spot for a typically barren fantasy position.

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7. Duds: Week 8 Disappointments & Fantasy Pancakes (45:12–55:13)

Quarterbacks & Offenses (45:12–49:14)

• Baker Mayfield (TB), Dak Prescott (DAL) major flops. Baker: “Six fantasy points is…that’s what I got out of Baker.” (45:48)
• Dak again struggles when pressured, worrying for future matchups: “I’m nervous going forward.” (48:46)
• More goal-line letdowns (Rashad White) and backup-fueled comedies.

Running Backs (49:14–51:25)

• Bijan Robinson and Christian McCaffrey combine for 50 yards.
• More duds: Jamaal Williams, Jordan Mason, Rico Dowdle, Ramondre Stevenson.
• Rashad White's repeated goal-line failures noted humorously—“so many chances to score.”

Wide Receivers (51:25–53:17)

• Emeka Egbuka’s inefficiency: 9 targets, 3 catches for 35 yards.
• Darnell Mooney flops despite expected volume (“I was confident Mooney would have a good game. It did not work. Devastating.” – Mike, 52:23).
• Discussion on the odds of Kirk Cousins or Michael Penix Jr. improving Atlanta's fantasy output: “D-U-N. It’s over.” – Andy (53:00)

Tight Ends (53:50–55:01)

• Jake Ferguson, Dalton Kincaid, and TJ Hockenson all fail to deliver.
• Jake Ferguson: “One target, goose.” (53:50)
• Hilarious recap of a “nothing for nothing” trade between Jason and Andy.

DST (55:13–55:42)

• Steelers D (“the Shower Curtain”): negative points and expensive assets not producing.

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8. Listener Reminders and Season Outlook (57:28–End)

• Trade deadlines are approaching – “we’ll talk trades soon.”
• The hosts encourage resilience—some weeks are wild, but don’t overreact.
• Community engagement is urged—visit the website, submit questions, or join their Foot Clan community.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On week’s chaos:
  “This week was blacked out. This week will not remember this week.” – Andy (19:22)

• On Flacco-to-Chase usage:
  “In three games, he has 54 targets with Joe Flacco…pacing for 308 targets.” – Jason (11:02)

• Fantasy heartbreak:
  “I want the swift execution, not to be slowly hacked apart.” – Andy (07:47)

• On RJ Harvey’s breakout:
  “The breakout can’t come via fantasy points and touchdowns against a bad defense…the breakout has to come via opportunity.” – Andy (33:01)

• On fan behavior:
  “Never tag a player unless it’s something nice…They don’t care. They’re trying.” – Mike (40:50)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------|-----------| | Intro / Week 8 overview | 01:35 | | Cam Skattebo injury discussion | 02:42 | | Monday Punday puns | 08:00 | | News & injury updates | 11:33 | | “Vegas knows” discussion | 16:08 | | QB studs | 21:32 | | RB studs | 26:18 | | WR studs | 36:47 | | TE studs | 42:05 | | Studs and duds segment start | 45:12 | | Major duds breakdown | 49:14 | | DST and closing thoughts | 55:13 | | Listener reminders / wrap | 57:28 |

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Tone and Style

The podcast maintains a light-hearted, comedic atmosphere despite the week’s “grossness”—the hosts support each other and listeners through fantasy heartbreak and improbable outlier weeks. It’s encouraging, self-deprecating, and peppered with mid-season strategy talk for savvy managers.

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Final Word

This episode is a microcosm of fantasy life: highs, lows, and uncontrollable chaos—brought to life through smart banter and genuine care for both NFL players and fantasy fans. A must-listen (or read) for those who want the context, camaraderie, and key takeaways from one of fantasy’s wildest weeks.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike WR]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome in Monday, October 27th, a spooky week begins and the fantasy footballers are back with you recapping a Sunday of football that had fewer close games than any Sunday since 1970.

[Andy Holloway]

It was disgusting. The football was gross. Like, it was funny because the injuries were gross. On Sunday Live, Mike, I tuned in, I watched you.

[Mike WR]

Thank you for your viewership.

[Andy Holloway]

It was a great, great show.

[Jason Moore]

He pirated it.

[Andy Holloway]

But, but it was like, you know, you're talking, I think you started saying, oh, we got some good football day. And you're like, well, I don't know if it's good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But remember in May that you'd be really happy to have the. I'm not sure that's true, man. Like, I think you might have idea.

[Jason Moore]

Who'S your favorite player in the game of football right now?

[Andy Holloway]

My favorite player.

[Jason Moore]

Recent. Recent.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Cam Scatterboo, man. I mean, I absolutely adore and love that guy.

[Jason Moore]

I think we all do.

[Andy Holloway]

That destroyed my. I mean, I think so many people's day. Like, it was, it was awful. Just so devastating. What a brutal injury to not just a player and not just a man, but a franchise that has hope and excitement for the first time in forever.

[Jason Moore]

No, I kind of made the comment this morning. It's like Jackson Dart is in the Back to the future photo. And Malik neighbors faded away. And now, I mean, stay safe, Jackson. The disappointment and sadness that you saw in Jackson Dart's face when it happened. I mean, emergency surgery for Cam Scatterboo last night. I guess that might be overstating it. I've seen some people use that language. He had surgery last night, which generally when you have a. This severe of an ankle dislocation with the other fractures and I mean, risk of infection, that's.

[Mike WR]

That's the issue. I mean, I think classifying an emergency is.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike WR]

I mean, it's not an understatement if you get injured and you immediately go and get a surgery that day. Yeah, that's a pretty.

[Andy Holloway]

You couldn't go home. You couldn't travel back. This isn't one where, you know, sometimes even with a bad, bad injury, it's better to wait and let the swelling go down and then have the surgery. This is not one of those situations. This was. You got to take care of it. So it's brutal. Hopefully there's no infection. We don't want to see an Alex Smith type of situation here.

[Jason Moore]

He's young.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. That's helpful.

[Jason Moore]

This is something he can come back from. And we just.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got that dog.

[Mike WR]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, honestly, even just the way. Even just the way he responded and like, he's sitting on a cart with.

[Jason Moore]

A air cast on.

[Andy Holloway]

Air cast on a. On a. You know, awfully broken. And he's rallying his troops and give it like.

[Mike WR]

I would have been passed out.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think passed out is enough for me. I would have looked down, saw that, and I would have ascended. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So I'm done.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm done with this world.

[Jason Moore]

Open dislocation is the. Is the language there, which tremendous risks associated with it. So hopefully the surgery went well and he's doing, you know, beginning the recovery because. So we've established that one of your favorite players in the game got knocked out for the entire season, ruining everybody's mood because he just brings energy and fun to the game and then you know how to go in the fantasy world.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, I have Jonathan Taylor.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So you won.

[Mike WR]

That's an automatic win.

[Andy Holloway]

It's pretty auto dub. Well, auto dub, you know. Well, I put up a ton of points. That's good.

[Mike WR]

I automatically scored a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, automatically. But no, I Like last week when I lost by 0.3 fantasy points. This week, I lost by two fantasy points. And that's. I'm tired of that, man. I mean, if I score three more points in the last two weeks, my season's looking very different.

[Jason Moore]

And it came down to, like. You had a slow death on Monday night last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, brutal.

[Jason Moore]

And then last night you had Josh Jacobs, who, you know, it looked like you might be doomed. There was a lot of Emmanuel Wilson. They basically split carries. But all of a sudden, Josh Jacobs shows up and he.

[Andy Holloway]

I needed about 15 points. When he got the touchdown, he was two points away.

[Jason Moore]

And I'm like, that's probably. And that was like, early third.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, early third quarter. So it was like, okay, cool. I am going to get there. And then he didn't. The packers, like every team, or I guess like half the teams this weekend, they got up big and it wasn't a close game. And so it was kind of gross football at the end. They didn't need to push the issue. Now, I don't believe Josh Jacobs was listed on the injury report, even though he was dealing with the calf last week and was spelled a lot this week. But it seems like they were spelling him because they didn't need him when they needed him. You remember going. You know, I think going into the third to start, they were down. I do not call.

[Jason Moore]

He was listed or. Sorry. He was limited in practice this week with a calf injury, so maybe he got taken off the practice report. But they were still. Obviously, I think it's very clear they were managing snaps.

[Mike WR]

I mean, that's.

[Jason Moore]

We've got the resident Packer fan of the universe back here in Deucer. Sally, is that the impression you got, too? Yeah, definitely. It seems like he's still.

[Andy Holloway]

Still trying to heal up.

[Jason Moore]

And once they got ahead, you knew it was over.

[Mike WR]

End of third, it would have been Packers 14, Pittsburgh 19.

[Jason Moore]

It was the. It was. His touchdown was the one that put them ahead. Jacob's touchdown was the one that put them ahead. So, you know, after that point, you know, they had Jordan Love was cooking. I mean, he completed 20 straight passes at some point in that game. So, yeah, two carries in the second half. One of them was for the touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Sheesh.

[Jason Moore]

So, yeah, that.

[Mike WR]

So you just. Enough to get your hopes up.

[Jason Moore]

That's hard.

[Andy Holloway]

I want the swift execution slowly hacked apart. No, I don't want to die by a thousand cuts. Just chop it off, man. Take this head. Just take it. It's yours.

[Jason Moore]

Well, so give me peace. There you go. We have a big week to respond to. We have your reactions on Monday punday. Then we'll get into studs and duds, but. Well, let's begin there. And it was good last night. We'll start with the good craft.

[Mike WR]

It was Kraft yak and cheese, baby. Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, breeze. Hallelujah.

[Mike WR]

Orande God Mode. It's got that code.

[Jason Moore]

And we saw some rj. Gnarly.

[Mike WR]

Finally.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, hey, it's Troy Franklinstein. Ooh, Halloween edition.

[Jason Moore]

Yalen Waddle and Runathan Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

How about Bohemian Rhapsody?

[Mike WR]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Bo Nick's doing it every week. Flames Cook and Kamuni Vidal.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, yes, but they're not all good. Emeka Egbuka. Or as Bronk would say, Egmeka egbigboo, Turd Ferguson, BJ Robin Stunk, Christian McCaffrey or Christian Crapfree. Isn't that what I said?

[Jason Moore]

I thought you said. Yeah, you didn't say it right.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well, how about muh. Okay.

[Mike WR]

Faker Mayfield.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Cade Rotten.

[Andy Holloway]

Huge mistake.

[Mike WR]

Yeah. Or if we got Rico, doubt we'll start him again.

[Jason Moore]

Cortland struggling.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Meowson.

[Mike WR]

Oh, Cam Sketta.

[Andy Holloway]

You. More like.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So sad. So disappointing.

[Andy Holloway]

That's just the worst, man. I mean. I mean, so this year, every year, you know, you got your guys. You like watching the guys that you really enjoy. I don't remember any year where any one of us felt so in love with a player. And yet this year, Andy, you have. There's two of them. You have fallen in love with the Mecca Igbuka. The way that I haven't seen you do. You know, we always like a player. And that's how I feel about Camp Scatterboo is just like I. I was playing against him. This will show you how. I was playing against him in my. In our matchup. And he scored a touchdown. And that is a guaranteed. I'm unhappy for every other player. And I. I was thrilled, man. I was like, he's.

[Mike WR]

He's that dog.

[Andy Holloway]

Score on me. Make it hurt. So, yeah, it's a. It was. It was just.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you. You have. I mean, it's just the. The nature of the game. But like when Malik Neighbors and Scatter Boo aren't playing football, when Joe Burrow's not playing football. You want your stars out there, but it's part of the game.

[Mike WR]

We don't need Joe Burrow anymore, guys.

[Jason Moore]

19 more targets.

[Mike WR]

We do not need Joe Burrow.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe in the last three games, did they win the Joe who I care. The last three games. The Joe Flacco games. It is the greatest amount of targets in a three game stretch since targets were Tracked. That is. I mean, that is how Jamar Chase's is. It is dropped back.

[Jason Moore]

I'm doing the math right now. Do you want to know what the target base is?

[Andy Holloway]

I do.

[Jason Moore]

You said it's three games. In three games, he has 54 targets with Joe Flacco. So 17. Three into 17 times 54. 308. Some pace for 308 targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, baby.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. That is 308 targets with Joe Flacco. That's what he would have. That's insane.

[Andy Holloway]

You're going to kill him. Although he.

[Jason Moore]

Dude, wide receivers want to be killed with targets.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Let's talk some news.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Jason Moore]

Free agent Tyler Lockett expected to sign with the hapless Raiders.

[Mike WR]

He's going back to his buddy, Geno Smith.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Mike Florio reports the Ravens could face significant punishment for their handling of Lamar Jackson's injury status ahead of the Week 8 game with the Bears.

[Mike WR]

It was so weird.

[Jason Moore]

Significant punishment. So, like, basically trying to persuade the opposition that he was going to play, only knowing that he wasn't going to play.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know that.

[Jason Moore]

Therefore, you plan for Lamar and you. You get Snoop. I mean, how is that a rug pull? I would love to be rug pulled like that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I think we played our back up.

[Mike WR]

The fact that, you know, we always talk about over unders on this show because it helps for fantasy football. And it's like when we were at. When we talked about the Ravens game, wasn't it a 50?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, 50.

[Mike WR]

It was a 50 pointer, which is. That's delightful. That's. Everyone starts for fantasy football. And it was like that through into Saturday, I think it was. And then all of a sudden, oh, hey, guess what? Lamar is not going to play. And then that thing plummets to 44. 44. I mean, it. I know the NFL doesn't care necessarily about that, but there's a whole bunch of. There's a whole ecosystem that relies on.

[Andy Holloway]

I just don't understand.

[Jason Moore]

Like, I got a quote from him. It really is an honest mistake. Harbaugh said, I can tell you this. Nobody's trying to hide anything. There's no advantage to be gained with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Oh, I don't.

[Mike WR]

Oh. Aaron Glenn would disagree. Says last week, I don't feel good.

[Jason Moore]

Thank goodness he did. That was just enough to get him to win.

[Andy Holloway]

They didn't do anything wrong. Like, we kind of expected Lamar to play, but he was limited all week. And then when he had the full participant, it came out. He was the full participant as a. I guess the only thing.

[Mike WR]

I think that is the issue.

[Andy Holloway]

The only thing was they changed after that to a limited participant. He was. He was listed as a full participant in the Friday practice. And then it came out afterwards that he was running the scout team. So they had to change it to a limited participant. But it's like. It wasn't like there was every guarantee that Lamar was playing this whole week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike WR]

It's weird.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike WR]

He'll be back. He'll be back this week. Thank goodness.

[Jason Moore]

Well. And they got the win.

[Mike WR]

Yeah, they did. That's a humongous win.

[Jason Moore]

It was a season saving win potentially. So we had. We got Monday Night football updates. Terry McClure and Debo Samuel both playing great. Cream Hunt will play for the Chiefs.

[Andy Holloway]

That just stinks. Well, like Pacheco and Burchard Smith seemed like. Hey, I was. I was excited to play Pacheco and Bershard. Smith was a dart throw. Now with Kareem Hunt there with three guys, it's just three darts too many.

[Mike WR]

That is. That is the rule. We have heard too many. I think that Pacheco is still fine.

[Jason Moore]

Cam. Scatter. Boo. We talked about the injury. Saquon left in the third quarter with the groin injury. They said it's not believed to be serious. Another report said he wanted to. He would have come back in if it was a closer game.

[Andy Holloway]

Which will go ahead. I will say that even if he is totally healthy and they're going on by. There was what appeared to be definitive evidence of who the backup would be.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And should be rostered. Even if he's healthy.

[Mike WR]

And it was my guy. We're back, baby.

[Andy Holloway]

Tank looked awesome. Do you get over. I was just.

[Mike WR]

You know his stat line.

[Jason Moore]

I do not know his stat line. I watched a couple of his runs and he looked great.

[Mike WR]

Nine carries for 104 rushing yards.

[Jason Moore]

That's a good yards per carry. That's. That's like a laundry level.

[Mike WR]

It's a. An 11.6.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, it's. It's a big deal. It'll be part of tomorrow's show. No question. Quinshon, Jenkins, they'll be. That'll be part of tomorrow's show too. He left with a shoulder injury, did not return.

[Mike WR]

Both of those teams are heading into the bi week, so it'll be. It'll be a difficult part of the discussion.

[Jason Moore]

Marvin Mims is in concussion protocol. He was one of the few Broncos that didn't go wild.

[Mike WR]

Wow. Him and Sutton. Cortland Sutton with a Bajillion end zone.

[Andy Holloway]

Targets, including a catch in the end zone that was called back, including a.

[Mike WR]

Catch, including a drop. Yeah, I mean it was.

[Jason Moore]

It was Franklin Stein and RJ Gnarly. Luther Burden left with a concussion for the Bears. And that was today's news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. Before we get into the studs, I'm just going to say they did know something.

[Mike WR]

Oh, yeah, they really, really knew something. We weren't completely pushed it back. We're just like, no. What do they know about San Francisco?

[Andy Holloway]

100%. This wasn't. They're wrong. This was not us saying like, that's a wild line. They're clearly wrong. Go bet the other side. This was like, if I were to bet a side, I would have bet the side that is outlandish. Like, they know something. And they did.

[Jason Moore]

And I do know that like 70% of the bets had been on San Francisco, but they were still. Houston was still favored. And that game played out pretty much like the best team in the league playing the worst team in the league. Like every snap of every Houston, it was a beat.

[Andy Holloway]

San Francisco.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it was like a bully going in there and just holding your face in the water.

[Andy Holloway]

I think when the game was almost to the half, San Francisco had like 30 yards, no first downs and had barely touched the ball. It was. It was wild because San Francisco's been beating everybody.

[Mike WR]

Matt, the Falcon is celebrating that the, the potential quarterback controversy is over.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike WR]

I mean, were people actually worried about that?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I don't think so. San Francisco for 5 minutes and 29 seconds in the first half.

[Jason Moore]

Lowest time of possession by any team in the first half in 15 years.

[Mike WR]

Yeah. I mean, the fact.

[Andy Holloway]

How did they know? That's the question.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Dimiko Ryan's could be knows what's going on.

[Mike WR]

Perfect matchup. But to have Christian McCaffrey listed in the bust section is.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you. You lost this week, right?

[Andy Holloway]

I did.

[Jason Moore]

Because you had the Bijan.

[Mike WR]

Bijan and Christian McCaffrey.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Just classic bumps.

[Andy Holloway]

Two of the poopiest pants. Really sad that that happened. I got it out of the way, man. A couple years ago. So. Mike, I had a dynasty team that looked like I was, you know, I was definitely on the way to super team. A super team. I'm in the playoffs and I had. This was when Breeze hall was great. Oh, like yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

Go On.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. And Bijon. And so I had those two guys as my primary backs. They combined in the semifinal week of the playoffs to get less than five points.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And then the championship week that I was not a part of. Thanks. They went nuclear. And so that's my hope.

[Mike WR]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

For Mike, the record is that they have one of those down week.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no.

[Mike WR]

They had it. It's done. We can't do it again.

[Jason Moore]

This is the thing that's infuriating.

[Andy Holloway]

Rules.

[Jason Moore]

Like, everybody. When you have a podcast and you talk fantasy football and you play fantasy football, I mean, I know people that have quit the game of fantasy football exclusively because they look at it as this. You know, it's like this player averages 19.2 points per game, and they should score 19.2 every week that they go out there. And it's like something like that can happen in the playoffs, and there's nothing you can do about it. That is not. That's. Mike did not make a strategic error in starting Caffrey and Bijan.

[Mike WR]

Like playing Bijan against a Miami Dolphins team that were allowing 130 rushing yards per game.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. At home.

[Jason Moore]

At. At home. And I am getting shamed this week because I trusted that Bijan would run for some yards. I mean, it's like that game is another example of.

[Mike WR]

That game was ridiculous.

[Jason Moore]

Like, sometimes you just do what you can do and then you lose.

[Andy Holloway]

This week was. This week was not. You know, sometimes we're like, oh, that week was drunk.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

This week was blacked out.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

This week. This week will not remember this week. They will. Absolutely. They're going into next week, and they're going to think they.

[Mike WR]

They're like, it's week eight.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike WR]

No, it's week nine, dude.

[Andy Holloway]

What?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, There you go. We'll take a break. We'll get into studs.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike WR]

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[Jason Moore]

Foreign.

[Andy Holloway]

This week's fantasy stud muffins presented by Lowe's.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man, he ended up at number one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah, he did.

[Mike WR]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I needed this so bad. Jordan Love.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, the people. The people are happy with you.

[Jason Moore]

Andy, you remember that I sent a.

[Mike WR]

Bouquet to Tucker Crab?

[Jason Moore]

I mean, do you remember when I did drugs on Thursday and thought that, like, Mason would be good like that? You guys don't understand. Like, we. In the beginning of this show, we cared so, so, so, so much about our own fantasy teams. And we still do. But if we say something on here and it goes as sideways as Jordan Mason went on Thursday, you guys know this. You listen to me. On Thursday, I was low.

[Mike WR]

We feel legit bad.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And then, you know, the therapist is on the phone and it's.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, that was just a. I just needed this to work out for Jordan Love. He had only had one good game all year.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I picked this game as my start of the week, and then, you know, I was nervous. But he ended up at number one. Hallelujah.

[Mike WR]

Tucker Kraft is healthy.

[Jason Moore]

Tucker Kraft is a dog.

[Andy Holloway]

He's.

[Jason Moore]

But we got to talk about so.

[Andy Holloway]

Much fun during the tight end.

[Jason Moore]

All right, all right, all right. Jordan Love, number one on the week. Another dog, Drake May. It was a slow start to this game. I thought I had some hope facing him in a league.

[Andy Holloway]

Miles Garrett was destroying him. Sacked him 4. The defense looked great. And that slow start. At one point, I was like, okay, so Drake May is really going to struggle and he's the number two quarterback on the week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he played outstanding. I mean, K Sean Booty is a legit threat. All the time he's got multiple tight ends he uses, it was awesome. I mean, Jake May is like, they're a legitimate contender.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Like, I think. I think there was a point when they had a nice record where I was like, well, that's nice, but when do you start taking them seriously? Well, Mike Vrabel and Drake May and this team, it's awesome. Jalen hurts, Justin Herbert, Joe Flacco rounding out the top five.

[Mike WR]

Joe Flacco, he did it so quick.

[Jason Moore]

Didn't he go to the locker room in this game?

[Mike WR]

He did.

[Andy Holloway]

He came back. But what was funny is it was like three touchdowns in the blink of an eye and then disappeared.

[Mike WR]

He did, but he still got you. All those touchdowns and irrational, unbelievably high belief in Joe Flacco that this is just going to keep happening.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it might. And they are. And Chase, they're kind of the Dallas Cowboy situation where.

[Mike WR]

Well, they were the original, like, the Bengals. Like, we called the Cowboys, the NFC Bengals, and then they fell apart when Burrow was gone. And it looked. The fact that it's Joe Flacco. They trade for Joe Flacco and somehow this team is back. Like, Chase Brown is. Chase Brennan's back. Yeah, he is a you. Because you can't just say, okay, well, we'll stop. We'll stop the running game, no problem. Then we'll worry about the wide receivers. Joe Flacco in this office, they are cooking.

[Andy Holloway]

I know.

[Mike WR]

They lost. And it was. It was the. The Post.

[Jason Moore]

That's a pretty post game interview.

[Mike WR]

It is. Oh, it's. It's horrifically bad. For the hope of, like, if you're a Bengals fan. Okay, we're going to hold out. Just squeak in, get Joe Burrow back right at the end.

[Andy Holloway]

Really good results for the Ravens this week.

[Mike WR]

Yes. The post game interview with Justin Fields was.

[Jason Moore]

I was hoping you'd bring it up, dude.

[Mike WR]

I mean, like, he. The look, number one, I'm. I'm super happy that Fields. Fields actually played very, very well. It was the Bengals defense, so it was. It was. They, you know, they're. Hey, the jets, you know, we're back, blah, blah, blah. All this stuff.

[Jason Moore]

You're like, it was still.

[Mike WR]

You played the Bengals defense. They can make people look real good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And that's what. I mean, that's what the dude needed.

[Mike WR]

He did.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, the Justin Fields came interview.

[Mike WR]

Like he needed a personal win.

[Jason Moore]

Like, you get. You get away from the reality of these human beings sometimes. And like that. That interview with Justin Fields was so vulnerable. And yes, you know, how low he had been. And the fact that he's going to get benched, the fact that he came. Yeah, it was to Rod Taylor, when he's called upon is always hurt.

[Mike WR]

I think Taylor would have started if he.

[Jason Moore]

So for the man, for Justin Fields, for them to get that off the, you know, to get off the schneide, get the W. And to do it in a way, you know, you had to come back, you had to fight. And we'll talk about Breece hall, who was awesome.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So was C.J. stroud. 318 and two against San Francisco at home. He looked good and he didn't have his top two.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So if you don't have Garrett Wilson and you don't have Nico Collins, you can finally, you know, play good quarterback. That's how wacky this weekend was. Or Tua, who threw for four touchdowns. Not just on the road against the number one against fantasy quarterback team that had not given up 200 passing yards this year. And then it's like, oh, dude, he destroyed you this week was just crazy.

[Jason Moore]

No, that, I mean that, that, that game in and of itself was like not. Nobody can predict that. Nobody. So it's casting a die and hoping it, you know, it ends up on whatever running back stars this guy. It feels like Jonathan Taylor gets six or seven quarters a game. The amount of like, I feel like.

[Andy Holloway]

He gets three quarters a game, he never gets a fourth.

[Mike WR]

But I mean six quarters of production in three quarters.

[Jason Moore]

The amount of like opportunities that he gets, the big plays. He had the 80 yard run. Jonathan Taylor, number one again, I mean he's had 30 plus points in like.

[Andy Holloway]

Five of the majority, five of eight weeks. The majority of his games have been over 30 points. That is absolutely wild. He's doing more than what we saw Saquon do last year.

[Jason Moore]

I was gonna say, do you know how many touchdowns Saquon had last year on the ground?

[Andy Holloway]

Was it like 12?

[Jason Moore]

I think it was 15.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You know how many Jonathan Taylor has right now?

[Andy Holloway]

It's gotta be like 25, 14. Oh, no. Like his pace.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. 14 touchdowns. I mean we were talking about MVP Saquon last year, John. The Taylor is just looking good and they.

[Andy Holloway]

And it's crazy because sometimes it's stats and sometimes it's film and this one is obviously both. But when you watch every play feels like he is the fastest man alive, the strongest man to ever exist. And unstable.

[Jason Moore]

He only had 12 carries yesterday.

[Andy Holloway]

You can't have a bunch of carries when you break Them off for touchdowns. Your drive is over. You don't get to get to 25 carries.

[Jason Moore]

So you lost with 32 and 36 from Jonathan Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, both of them now. Sorry. Hey, J. J.T. i'm sorry. I have let you know.

[Jason Moore]

And what's your combined tight end points for the last two weeks?

[Andy Holloway]

Let me see.

[Jason Moore]

It's 4.6.

[Andy Holloway]

It's 3.6. Oh, 3.6, but thank you. Now, does it count that I put Kate Otten in him as a flex because he scored more?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you did put him in his.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Why'd they do that?

[Andy Holloway]

National tight end week, baby. Who did you play him over and.

[Jason Moore]

Did it cost you the win?

[Andy Holloway]

No, it was. It was actually genuinely not a joke.

[Jason Moore]

I actually thought he was going to be your starting tight end. I didn't realize you were going to put Hawkins in it.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he was. No, I got him to play him over him, but I had two guys in the IR and I couldn't make.

[Jason Moore]

The move without cutting somebody.

[Andy Holloway]

Without cutting. I basically had to cut.

[Mike WR]

You should have cut Hawkinson two people.

[Andy Holloway]

In order to make the swap from Hawkinson to Otten. It wasn't worth it. Enough to me.

[Mike WR]

I cut four guys, but it could drop off.

[Andy Holloway]

It should have been enough because that was the difference. It was like three more points. I would have won.

[Jason Moore]

Sorry to rehash that. James cook. That worked. 216 yards. James Cook doing his thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, he was. He was awesome.

[Jason Moore]

Breeze hall was awesome as well. What, three touchdowns for Breeze Hall?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And a passing touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I guess two rushing and a passing. It was. It was a heck of a game for him. I mean, he had a comment. He had comments after the game where he said he went to the coaches and was like, basically, if Garrett's not here, I need 20 to 25 touches. He said, if we're going to lose, we got to go down on me. We got to go down swinging.

[Andy Holloway]

And it was a smart decision because he is your by far best player. He looked so.

[Mike WR]

Did you just hear yourself?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike WR]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, no, what I see.

[Mike WR]

No, no, no, not you, not you. Moving on.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Oh, I can't. Oh, I can't wait to go back and look at that tape. Andy is very embarrassed right now. I imagine there were big eyes from Mike at one point. Just keep talking. Go on.

[Jason Moore]

Gosh, you were saying stuff about players.

[Mike WR]

You're saying something so smart, Jake.

[Andy Holloway]

Keep going.

[Jason Moore]

I love that. Jason thought he said something.

[Andy Holloway]

Of course.

[Jason Moore]

That's where his mind is.

[Andy Holloway]

Breece hall has all season this year looked like the old Breeze Hall. Fast, explosive. He doesn't always get the opportunity to get the ball in space. You don't have a great offensive line, you don't have a great offense. So it hasn't been wonderful every single week of the year. I still. I am hoping more and more and we've got about a week and a half for this to happen. I really want Breeze hall moved. I really want him traded because he is awesome and if you put him on a better team, like I have got Jonathan Taylor and I've been hoping that he hits the free agent market and could go sign a good team. Instead. It turns out the Colts brought a good team to him because the human being in the right situation would be a top three back.

[Jason Moore]

It's always really hard to think about him. Like the teams that would want him are contenders. How do you give that guy the work that he gets in New York and can you have that kind of success?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think you can have more success on a great offense. I would rather him have 15 touches for a great team than 25 touches for the.

[Jason Moore]

There's only. I mean, I guess there's two teams like the Chargers and Chiefs would be two, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I don't.

[Mike WR]

Bears.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, that would get messy, but. Yeah, but I don't think they're trading at 4 and 3 for him. I don't know.

[Mike WR]

No, no.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm just.

[Jason Moore]

I was trying to think of a teams at the top of the divisions. It's like, I think that those are. I mean, Chiefs and Chargers. I can see the path for him, basically. Like if Amari and Hampton's injury is more severe and they're like, they know behind the scenes that he's probably not coming back. That one would work out for sure.

[Mike WR]

Washington.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The commanders.

[Mike WR]

Washington would work, too.

[Andy Holloway]

That would be lovely.

[Jason Moore]

I guess that's a good point. I guess there's some homes.

[Mike WR]

Did we mention Saquon Barkley's huge game?

[Jason Moore]

We were about to.

[Mike WR]

Okay. I just wanted.

[Jason Moore]

I didn't want to say had a.

[Mike WR]

Huge game because it was. It was awesome. We've been waiting, you know, so many weekly discussions of Barkley has not broken a big play yet. And we got two of them yesterday. 14 for 150 and a score. 4 for 24 and a score through the air.

[Jason Moore]

Probably a convenient bye week, too.

[Mike WR]

Oh, very much. With the.

[Andy Holloway]

With the Gar.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yep. With the groin injury. Chase Brown, 12 or 73 and 1. Your start of the week, Mike. Who?

[Mike WR]

He looked good and I know it was the. The Jets. Chase Brown looked good. And you know who else looked really good? Samaj. P. Ryan.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He is working in 9 for 94 and it touched it.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know what.

[Mike WR]

Maybe it was just the uniforms against the grass against that defense. But like P. Ryan looked. P. Ryan looked fast.

[Jason Moore]

He did have some. He had some moves out there. I have a huge question about this next player.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And the question is, do you trade.

[Andy Holloway]

This trade away or trade for.

[Jason Moore]

Trade away.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

RJ Harvey. Seven for 46 and two. Just seven opportunities and then caught one pass in the game for a touchdown. Very, very. Like Dobbins was great. Dobbins was 15 for 1, 11. It's not. It's like it was big plays.

[Andy Holloway]

If. When I see a breakout coming for a rookie, which this was. You know, a lot of people are saying this was the RJ Harvey breakout game. Obviously for fantasy football. A monstrous productive. That if you had him in your lineup, you thought you were going to lose because you had RJ Harvey in your starting lineup and you probably won because he was awesome. Unless your team is as bad as Jeremy's, in which case you can start him and lose. But the breakout can't come via fantasy points and touchdowns against a bad defense. The breakout has to come via opportunity. For me to really buy in, this was no change in his opportunity. He played 27% of the snaps. This was still J.K. dobbins team and he didn't get more opportunity. It was just. He played against the Dallas Cowboys, which. My goodness.

[Jason Moore]

Which we knew.

[Andy Holloway]

How many times on Sunday did I say? My favorite thing is the Dallas Cowboys defense. They can't. They literally can't stop anyone from doing anything they want to do on any play. It is delightful.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean they. We said start of the week, basically all the players on Denver. Yeah. 30% of the rushing are of the running back attempt and only eight total opportunities. I'm just saying like strategically speaking, this is your opportunity to trade RJ Harvey.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

For something very, very good. Potentially.

[Mike WR]

Maybe you have to get.

[Jason Moore]

People love a good rookie.

[Mike WR]

You have to get something good. Because I agree that I'm not going to call this the true breakout game because of the work, but this is the type of game that can earn you more work.

[Andy Holloway]

You probably were not relying on RJ Harvey as a starter. So you might be able to go and get someone on buy or injured or cross positionally. Yeah. I don't know if. I mean, I mean would you trade.

[Jason Moore]

Him Right now for Breeze Hall.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, if I could get Bree hall, of course.

[Jason Moore]

Would you trade him for Kyron?

[Mike WR]

That won't work.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, of course.

[Jason Moore]

Would you trade him for Derek Henry?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, of course. I don't trade him for.

[Jason Moore]

I can go down a two, any of those.

[Andy Holloway]

But quinch on Judkins, who's injured and going on to buy. Maybe that team needs a starter. You need a starter and you could.

[Mike WR]

That's what you have to do. You have to find a very specific circle. You won't be able to get whatever player you want.

[Jason Moore]

We should shine a light on how good Devon HN has been. Dude, he's been the RB17 or better every week of the year. No other running back can say that now that McCaffrey and Bijan took the week off.

[Mike WR]

Yeah, he's been awesome.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, he is. He has been cooking. Javante got it done. Tajie Spears. Tajie Spears was so close to a two touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm Javante cannot keep getting these goal line touchdowns.

[Mike WR]

Oh, oh, I see. This is a CD lamb.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a CD lamb.

[Jason Moore]

You grunted because, I mean, if you have Javante, you were happy.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, of course.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

He was very good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but you just needed like points from your guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike WR]

Was CD dragged down at the 1, the 2?

[Andy Holloway]

He was dragged down at the 2 and then. Oh, come on, man. You're not gonna.

[Jason Moore]

It's more of a. Oh, good point.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair.

[Mike WR]

Come on.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair. Yeah. And then Dak did get the. The comical quarterback sneak from the one yard line where he did like the alligator role.

[Mike WR]

Oh, yeah, he fell over.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. He goes to quarterback sneak. It kind of falls over to his right, just rolls.

[Mike WR]

That was so funny.

[Jason Moore]

I did not see that.

[Mike WR]

Oh, man, it's. It's just. It's a dumb throwaway player. He's tried to QB sneak, does not get in, but somehow he just rolls.

[Andy Holloway]

Over just another couple inches. I could have won my week.

[Jason Moore]

Troy Franklin was the number one wide receiver on the week because Dallas. Yeah, I mean, Dallas is handing out candy for Halloween. It's. It's wild. And Franklin is. I mean, it's. This offense is capable of these performances from certain players because it's such a good offense. Mims has a week, Franklin has a week, Harvey has a week. Sometimes it's at the same time if you're playing Dallas.

[Mike WR]

So what I like seeing was Pat Bryant. Let's get that guy going.

[Andy Holloway]

He had a week.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, dude, Dallas. And it's like.

[Jason Moore]

And they got.

[Andy Holloway]

They got destroyed one of Troy Franklin. Troy Franklin's touchdown in the back of the end zone. He's just standing. I could have caught that touchdown. There was no defender. That was sucks.

[Jason Moore]

Michael Pittman, number two on the week, Jalen Waddle.

[Andy Holloway]

Michael Pittman deserves some conversation.

[Mike WR]

This is wild.

[Andy Holloway]

He has, but it's.

[Mike WR]

Yeah, we are. The city is back.

[Andy Holloway]

It was not something you couldn't see coming. If you take out the Anthony Richardson games and you look back the last three years, he's been good the vast majority of times. Definitely a top 24 wide receiver. And he has continued, you know, being the number one wide receiver. It's like Alec Pierce down the field. Josh Downs has had some good games, but you've got a guy here that's, you know, he is the number one target. And also that touchdown from Pittman. He. This is the first touchdown I've ever seen caught with a bicep. Biceps.

[Mike WR]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I've never seen someone catch a ball catch.

[Mike WR]

He.

[Andy Holloway]

It helps when you have your biceps before.

[Mike WR]

You have tied your career high in touchdown receptions.

[Jason Moore]

The offense, at this point, already, the offense is cruising.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, that was one of the questions around Pittman to start the year was like, nobody saw this offensive explosion coming. And it was like, can you score enough? Well, Taylor can and Pittman can and Daniel Jones can, and this offense is just that good. So Michael Pittman is quietly the number seven wide receiver on the season in total. So he was the right pick on that offense at the wide receiver position. And Warren is there getting it done, too. Jalen Waddle, 18.4. Bounce back. I. I was, you know, people were wanting to, like, cut Jalen Waddle last week. Oh, that seemed dumb.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's silly. I mean, you've got four games without Tyreek and he has been great in three of them.

[Mike WR]

Yeah, he's just. He is a player that, oh, waddles up on the jersey board there. He's the type of player where it's. It always feels fragile, where you get a couple good games and then the minute like last week, you have the bad game, you're like, oh, okay, well, that was a fun run, but it's going to be more sustainable here.

[Jason Moore]

19 targets for Jamar Chase, 12 for 91 on those. Didn't score this week.

[Mike WR]

Koham not efficient, but 19 targets.

[Jason Moore]

Khalil Shakir had his second breakaway. Random touchdown game of the year, which. That'll help. I mean, he had a monstrous, like, screen touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he'll have two, maybe three of those a season.

[Jason Moore]

How about Roman Wilson? Four for 74 and a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

I remember him. I really liked him as a prospect.

[Jason Moore]

Me too.

[Andy Holloway]

They could use him to be good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. This was.

[Mike WR]

They can use DK Metcalf to be better.

[Jason Moore]

DK Metcalf feels like he is 5 for 55. He's like required to have 50 to 60 yards a week. Like he scored and to score.

[Mike WR]

So it good fantasy week.

[Jason Moore]

But it's like, did you play him or Zay?

[Mike WR]

Oh, when the. Lamar was out, then DK Metcalf went in, but Jay Flowers had more yards than DK Metcalf.

[Jason Moore]

Do I really want to bring this news up? What? Is this real?

[Andy Holloway]

It's real.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know if it's worth bringing up or not.

[Andy Holloway]

I was just. Now you have to.

[Mike WR]

Well, now what do we.

[Andy Holloway]

What's the news?

[Jason Moore]

It was just that Green Bay packers first round wide receiver Matthew golden deactivated his Instagram account after the game yesterday.

[Mike WR]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Did you see.

[Jason Moore]

Did you see how open he was on that one?

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh my gosh.

[Mike WR]

I did.

[Jason Moore]

I mean I saw it when they were just snapping the ball. I saw him coming across the middle. I go, this is going to be a fourth touchdown for love. I was very much wanting love to keep piling him up. He got missed on that one, but.

[Mike WR]

Took him eight weeks, huh?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, eight weeks and we.

[Mike WR]

Already had to shut down the social.

[Jason Moore]

Do we do that for targets?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe he only got three targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe he was. There's some speculation that a lot of. He's getting a lot of pushback from fantasy manager.

[Mike WR]

That's what I was going to say. I bet he's getting a lot of crap, which is. That's disgusting. Do not. Hey. So I don't know if we've said it this year. Never tag a player unless it's something nice. Unless it's something nice. Don't never tag a player. Something negative about your fantasy team. They don't care. They're trying.

[Jason Moore]

No, I mean. And Kittle kind of summed it up in the kind. The most kind hearted way last week, which was like, yeah, sorry. To my fantasy coaches.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

He's like, but look, they won the ball game.

[Mike WR]

Blame Shanahan.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You got. You got to. Don't do that, people.

[Mike WR]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Be better. K. Shawn Booty. Five targets, three for 75 and one.

[Mike WR]

He has big.

[Jason Moore]

He's been good, man. They're big plays. And we talked about Drake May down the field.

[Mike WR]

Dude, Drake. Drake May. A deep ball from Drake May is. It's incredible. And it's matched up perfectly right now with booty.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Roma Dunes a Jason start of the week. Got it done. 7 for 114. Ted McMillan 7 for 99. Yeah, I had my Xavier regrets this week. And what about dk? Second week in a row, eight targets for.

[Andy Holloway]

You're not talking about Metcalf.

[Mike WR]

No, no, no. The Titans. Dk.

[Jason Moore]

Titans, dk. Is it Shamir?

[Andy Holloway]

Nobody knows.

[Jason Moore]

Last week had the big touchdown, but this week, 7 for 93. Something to pay attention to. He was drafted ahead of IO Manor. Keep that in mind. Tight ends. Tucker Kraft, Dallas Goddard got into the end zone again, twice. Arande Gadsden.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you know his national tight ends?

[Jason Moore]

I did know that. I was told many, many times how.

[Andy Holloway]

Many times it was brought up.

[Jason Moore]

Harold Fannin got into the end zone. George Kittle got into the end zone. You know, Goddard was 28 yards right. Fannin had. He got wide open. He was your start of the week that worked out. Tucker Kraft started the week that worked out. And Goddard, you know, if you. If he scores, you're really happy. You're not getting a lot more than that.

[Mike WR]

He has been doing it.

[Jason Moore]

And Mason Taylor also scored. Meow. So there you go.

[Andy Holloway]

It was a pretty good catch. It was jumped up. Master guy didn't have to break a tackle, though.

[Mike WR]

See that?

[Andy Holloway]

That was helpful.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike WR]

Okay, we got to get that one.

[Jason Moore]

Chimray dk. That's how you remember it? Because I knew the dk. Chimray dk. We got a rhyme going on, I guess.

[Mike WR]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's. Let's talk about some of these. You know, you talked about the week being wild and crazy, and it was.

[Andy Holloway]

Pooped in his big boy pants.

[Jason Moore]

Some of these pants were loaded up, man. They were loaded up.

[Andy Holloway]

Double duty got filled this week.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield. They won going away, and yet, like, it was, like, four fantasy points.

[Mike WR]

I don't even know who scored.

[Jason Moore]

It was 15 for two.

[Mike WR]

I mean, it's the defense.

[Jason Moore]

Tez did work, and Tez didn't score.

[Andy Holloway]

No, but Tez was okay in the game. But I think he was the only one.

[Jason Moore]

Six fantasy points is. I mean, that's what I got out of Baker.

[Andy Holloway]

Baker, again was. This is the second week in a row where it felt like he was not as accurate as he had been for the last year and a half. Did you see me missing some guys? I mean, he missed twice. He missed Buka. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Abuka was, like. Last week, I think he caught four of 12 targets. This week, he caught, like, three of nine targets, which I went and I went back, and I wanted to see what the practice reports were like for Ibuka this week, because there's a lot of people speculating the hamstring still hurting him. And he didn't practice Wednesday. He was limited on Thursday. He did practice in full Friday. Probably not quite himself. I mean, they took shots. I don't know if you saw this game, but they took. They got stopped on seven straight goal line opportunities.

[Mike WR]

I was saving that for the Rashad White portion of this because it was hilarious.

[Andy Holloway]

It was funny.

[Jason Moore]

It was. And. But it wasn't just him. It was. He took two shots. Baker took two shots on the one yard line. And both balls were horrible. Both should have been picked off by Kool Aid McKinstry. No separation from a book on the second one. Weird to throw a fade to Sterling Shepard on the first one.

[Mike WR]

What was that decision?

[Jason Moore]

But Baker. Yeah, this was.

[Andy Holloway]

It was. Oh, last time we were here, we gave the ball three times in a row to Rashad. Wide up the middle, got stuffed. A fourth to Sean Tucker got stuffed. So we got to do something different.

[Jason Moore]

They are missing. They're missing Bucky Irving really bad. Yeah, Bucky Irving getting the play action game going. It's killing them. No Godwin, no Evans. So I mean, they won, but now they go into the buy and hopefully that means that it's a good time for a Buka to get healthy. Right. With the hamstring recovery and maybe Godwin comes back afterward. But the. They were not passing the ball. They didn't need to against New Orleans.

[Mike WR]

Oh, and then Dak Prescott. Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it was not good.

[Andy Holloway]

I said, I said going into this week that my, the thing I was watching the most this week was how Dak can perform against a good defense because they do have a difficult strength of schedule going forward for the quarterback and wide receiver. The passing game, and it started with Denver and the way that he did not succeed was both comforting and really disheartening. The pass rush was a problem. The Broncos have a good pass rush and they were in his face all the time. They were taking throws that, you know, he would usually make and it was really a big problem for Dak. And I'm worried that when he faces other teams with good pass rushes, he's not going to get it done. On the other side, you had the two again, goal line touchdowns from Javante Williams. That stinks. Because it does say that going forward, if they get around the goal line, they will probably run the ball and that's a shame. As opposed to, you know, sometimes you've got those quarterbacks that they get around there and their go to is the passing game. Still, it doesn't appear to be with Dak, however, when that happens and the touchdowns go on the ground. At least the offense scored enough. Like there were fantasy points to be had. If, if CD Lamb got two more yards on, you know, that pass, you would have had a different outlook. So I'm, I'm kind of, I'm nervous going for it.

[Mike WR]

I'll try to give you some good news as next week is Arizona for no pass rush for the Cowboys by week. And then even if the second half is difficult, they're, they're difficult game. So they're on the road in Week 11 against Vegas. That's perfectly fine. Philly, Kansas City are at home. Detroit is on the road, but then Minnesota and the Chargers are at home. So in that stretch run of some difficult defenses there, at least you're home.

[Andy Holloway]

For a lot of them, right? Against quarterbacks specifically. The three toughest matchups left after Denver is Philly, Kansas City and the Chargers. And all three of those are at home.

[Jason Moore]

Well, there was some disappearing from our big time running back situations here. Bijan, 9 for 25. Christian McCaffrey, 8 for 25. If you told me 17 total opportunities on the ground wild for 50 total yards between those two this week with the matchups that specifically Bijan has Crazy Camaro useless this week.

[Mike WR]

And he got, I think he got hurt too.

[Jason Moore]

Jordan Mason, we already saw that Thursday. They were shut down. Rico Dowdle, he ran well. He just didn't get much work, didn't get any targets. Chubas scored, Chuba did score.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Jordan Mason is worth noting. Like he's a, he's a bench now. He's, he's a back probably as a bench. Like right off the bat. First game, Aaron Jones out, snapped them out, carried him. He got the work ahead of him.

[Mike WR]

And the way the game looked, Jones was going to be involved. I feel like it was almost performance too of they were like, hey, Jones is just running better. So we're going to keep you on the field.

[Jason Moore]

By the way, real quick break in here. D' Amico Ryan says, he says, quote I do not when asked if he has an update on Joe Mixon. So I know you guys probably forgot Joe Mixon exists.

[Mike WR]

I did.

[Jason Moore]

They could probably use Joe Mixon based on the way they're running the football. Rashad White, 13 for 35 and so.

[Mike WR]

Many goal line carries.

[Jason Moore]

He had so many chances to score. Jaylen Warren, it was okay, 13 for 62. I don't think that was too bad. Ramondre still got 74% of the snaps, but it was Cleveland and he did not perform 14 for 34.

[Andy Holloway]

Henderson, someone else looked great in the running game. He performed fantastic. And then towards the end of the game, they get near the goal and he fumbles.

[Jason Moore]

How does this happen? He was, I would have probably been more encouraged by his performance than even 10 for 75, than even RJ Harvey. From a long term perspective, if that fumble doesn't happen. Yeah, because of the fact that they might give him more work because Ramon Dre is worse than Dobbins. So it's like there would be opportunity there, but as a huge disappointment. Speaking of huge disappointments, got shut out on Thursday. We knew about that. Abuka nine targets, three for 35. He, you know, you look at the targets 12 and nine the last two weeks, you love it. But you know, he also just missed another touchdown in this game. It's just not worked out the last couple of weeks at all. They have the buy and then we'll see where they're at after that. A lot of people started Darnell Mooney.

[Mike WR]

Hey, I will personally apologize on Sunday live. We had a lot of Darnell Mooney questions and I was confident, I was confident that Mooney would have a good game.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought I checked every single one of my leagues just to see if.

[Jason Moore]

He was able to transform him from AL this week. And he's like, I'm not giving you somebody to help you win.

[Andy Holloway]

I would have started him 100%.

[Mike WR]

So I thought the way he had played last year with Kirk and the fact. Look, Drake London. Oh, nice. Drake London is out. Darnell Mooney has to be the number one guy for this and he has the ability. Against Miami, it did not work. It was devastating.

[Andy Holloway]

The question of Kirk Cousins, right. Could he be better than Michael Penix for this team? Could another team trade for Kirk Cousins? No. Nope. Nope. D U N is over. He looked also so bad.

[Mike WR]

Falcons, just what are you, man? The Falcons, they put all that money into Kirk. They had the backup plan with Michael Penix. It's possible both their plans are not going to work because Kirk looked terrible and Michael Penix has not looked good.

[Jason Moore]

Sometimes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, sometimes you're not a Pinnock's fan.

[Mike WR]

I think overall he has looked bad.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah. I've seen some flashes that make me slightly more encouraged than that. But what do we think of Jake Ferguson?

[Mike WR]

Dude, one target, Goose. One target, man. I guess I would have to go back and check. I bet he was blocking a lot due to the Denver pass.

[Jason Moore]

He did block a lot of teams from victory this week. Yes, yes.

[Mike WR]

But he, with CD and George, his targets will Be down. He still has touchdown opportunity every single week. But this was a, it was a goose, man. Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Dalton Kincaid, he had an early catch in this game. I was like, oh, they're back.

[Andy Holloway]

This is.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, this is the go to guy. It was the only one he got.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, targets but no more catches.

[Jason Moore]

They didn't need to do much. I don't know where Josh Allen ended up. He might have been fine because of the rushing touchdown but it was like this is the James Cook show.

[Mike WR]

It was Hawkinson just 2,026 still in the top 10. Hey, TJ Hawkins and everyone just stop it.

[Jason Moore]

Don't play.

[Mike WR]

You don't have, you don't have to. You don't got to play.

[Jason Moore]

Jason and I made a trade of nothing for nothing. That is exactly what we.

[Mike WR]

That's the best kind of trade.

[Jason Moore]

A couple weeks ago we traded like a Mason Taylor for Hawkinson deal and.

[Andy Holloway]

Well no, I got a, I got a much worse defense that.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you got me lose.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

That trade. We shouldn't have done that.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I agree.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we should have cut all the things connected to that trade.

[Mike WR]

TJ Hawkinson is pacing for 540 yards.

[Jason Moore]

Next time I'm going to cut somebody, Jason, and then you're going to cut somebody. I want us to trade first and then we cut the opposite person's.

[Andy Holloway]

The Steelers defense sucks. They're bad.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they got me negative four in a league this week.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean I saw someone call them the shower curtain.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, instead of the steel curtain. The shower curtain.

[Mike WR]

That's not bad.

[Andy Holloway]

And the funny thing is is it's like they are paying a lot of money for that defense. Jalen Ramsey and Watt are two of the priciest defenders in the league and they are not getting it done.

[Jason Moore]

Oh my gosh, that is crazy. All right. Yeah, nothing from Andrews and likely no Lamar back. So just hold on that they played Thursday by the way. Yes, Miami.

[Mike WR]

The surging Dolphins maybe.

[Jason Moore]

Well the Dolphins had had like what two or three of their games have been really close at the end. Right. Like they almost beat the Chargers. Like they're, they're to their credit to all the insult.

[Andy Holloway]

27:29 to the Chargers and they scored.

[Jason Moore]

At the very end of the game. It was the Waller touchdown and then they gave up the McConkey play for a game winning field goal for the Chargers.

[Andy Holloway]

They lost by three points a week before that to Carolina in a close.

[Mike WR]

Game but which that's fine and all. It's.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just saying like they could have like a Little winning streak.

[Mike WR]

It's the allowing 33. 33, 31, 21, 27, 29, 31, 10 as cousins. That was the issue.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. That was. Studs and duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's nose. Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sunday with Lowe's official partner of the NFL. We've got a game tonight.

[Mike WR]

Is gone.

[Jason Moore]

No, it's not gone. We got another.

[Mike WR]

Oh, we still have a game.

[Jason Moore]

We got football tonight. Marcus Mariota goes to Arrowhead. That's the.

[Mike WR]

Week eight is over, everybody.

[Jason Moore]

That's not going to solve our problem of close games, most likely.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. This game is the perfect way to finish off week eight.

[Jason Moore]

If I can have Mariota just set the stage here because this is really high odds.

[Mike WR]

Oh, yeah, the Monday night miracle.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you need?

[Jason Moore]

I need Mariota to outscore Rashi rice.

[Mike WR]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

By 24.8 points.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

And then Josh loses.

[Andy Holloway]

You need Rashi Rice.

[Mike WR]

Interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

To not play.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

And then Mario to score 25.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Easy work.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I. I doubt it. All right, we've got the Monday night game. We got waiver wire tomorrow. We'll do some mid season review stuff this week. Get into the. We'll like reset the mechanism and we'll get into week nine and we'll talk about maybe a more sane week of football, hopefully. And trade deadlines are coming up. We've only got a couple more weeks away, I think for a lot of leagues. So we can talk some trades here soon as well. If you have a question for the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com and you could click that submit a question button. Send us your questions for this week. Thursday and Friday we'll get into matchups and start of the week reminder to check out jointhefoot.com if you want to join our fantasy football community and support the show. Another really easy way to support the show. In about 30 seconds, make sure you're following on Apple podcasts or Spotify. Wherever listening, click that follow button and leave us a review. If you've got a couple extra seconds to do that, that helps the show and the algorithms and all that stuff that'll do it. For today's episode, we'll let Jason get back to searching for three points somewhere in the office. Maybe you can find them.

[Mike WR]

It's in the couch cushions.

[Jason Moore]

Check them.

[Mike WR]

Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

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