Week 8 Waivers & QB Streamers, That's Amari

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Week 8 Waivers & QB Streamers, That's Amari

Release Date: October 23, 2018

The Fantasy Footballers hosted by Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright deliver another insightful and entertaining episode focused on Week 8 waivers, quarterback streamers, and the significant move of Amari Cooper to Dallas. This detailed summary captures the essence of their discussions, providing valuable takeaways for both avid listeners and those catching up.

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1. Introduction

The episode kicks off with the hosts greeting listeners and setting the stage for the week's key topics: waivers, news updates, quarterback streamers, and the impact of Amari Cooper's trade.

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2. News and Notes

a. Amari Cooper’s Trade to Dallas

Amari Cooper’s trade to Dallas is a central focus, with the hosts analyzing its implications for fantasy football players.

• Jason Moore highlights the strategic advantage for owners who secured Cooper:

  "He couldn't hurt you last week and he can't hurt you this week. You get the double buy, you get bye week last week, bye week this week."
  (01:22)

• Mike Wright concurs, emphasizing Cooper’s diminished risk:

  "The system is sitting him for us at this point. Yeah, it is taken over, I find."
  (01:48)

The trade is seen as beneficial for those holding Cooper, offering a safe slot during a critical bye week.

b. Recent NFL Game Performances

The hosts dissect notable performances from recent NFL games, particularly focusing on Eli Manning and Matt Ryan.

• Andy Holloway criticizes Manning’s decision-making despite his yardage:

  "The very end after he had already made two buffoon decisions."
  (02:23)

• Mike Wright praises Matt Ryan’s resurgence:

  "Matt Ryan has been looking really good outside of week one."
  (05:49)

The analysis underscores the importance of quarterback performance on fantasy outcomes.

c. Other Player Updates

Tevin Coleman’s inconsistent performance is discussed, with concerns about his efficiency despite being a hot free agent.

• Jason Moore remarks on Coleman’s situation:

  "He is not a special player, but he's in a good situation."
  (07:02)

• Andy Holloway defends Coleman’s potential:

  "The number two hotness behind only Le'Veon Bell as far as free agent running backs go."
  (06:55)

The discussion reflects the complexity of evaluating running backs in free agency within fantasy leagues.

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3. Announcements

a. iHeartRadio Podcast Nomination

The Fantasy Footballers proudly announce their nomination for the inaugural iHeartRadio Podcast Awards.

• Mike Wright urges listeners to vote:

  "You can cast five votes per day. And it's as simple as a few [e-mail] if you want to support us."
  (08:16)

This nomination is celebrated as a significant achievement, placing them among top sports podcasts.

b. Giveaways and Promotions

The hosts highlight ongoing giveaways, including a signed Saquon Barkley jersey, and promote their partnerships.

• Jason Moore introduces a giveaway:

  "Go get it. Go get that Barkley."
  (09:58)

The promotions aim to engage listeners and offer incentives to participate actively.

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4. Waivers

The core segment of the episode delves into waiver strategies for Week 8, providing actionable advice for listeners.

a. Waiver Strategies for Week 8

The discussion emphasizes the importance of preparing for both the current week's bye weeks and anticipating the upcoming ones in Week 9.

• Mike Wright advises on leveraging bye week situations:

  "If you have the space on your bench and you prep for week nine now, you get players cheap."
  (23:28)

• Jason Moore adds:

  "Signing players from Atlanta, Dallas, Los Angeles or Tennessee. The four teams going on bye this week."
  (23:40)

b. Recommended Pick-Ups by Position

Wide Receivers (WR)

• Geronimo Allison emerges as a top waiver target:

  "Mike Geronimo is my favorite pickup of the week at the wide receiver position."
  (25:53)

• Randall Cobb is highlighted for those in need of reliable WR options:

  "I would also throw out Randall Cobb's name because you need to check a lot of... he's available."
  (26:57)

• Christian Kirk is recommended for his evolving role and potential targets:

  "He's on pace for 74 receptions and 1,078 yards."
  (30:05)

Running Backs (RB)

• Marshawn Mack is touted for his strong performances:

  "He's a starting running back on an offense that's going to be putting up points."
  (39:37)

• Colonel Mustard (Raheem Mostert) is favored due to the opposing defense vulnerabilities:

  "If you're looking at your waivers, you're like, man, I don't like any of these quarterback pickups."
  (42:42)

• Jalen Richard and Rashad Matthews are discussed as valuable additions, depending on league settings and team needs.

Tight Ends (TE)

• Vance McDonald stands out as a key target:

  "He was a tight end that I was willing to go grab off of the waiver wire."
  (51:55)

• CJ Uzama is praised for consistent involvement:

  "He's my favorite."
  (52:20)

Quarterbacks (QB) - Streaming QBs

The hosts debate potential quarterbacks to stream, highlighting options based on weekly matchups.

• Mitchell Trubisky is recommended despite his ownership levels:

  "Mitchell Trubisky. I'm staying in."
  (55:15)

• Andy Dalton is considered for his potential bounce-back performance:

  "If you're looking to stream, Andy Dalton can bounce back in a strong way."
  (56:01)

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5. Streaming QBs

The segment on streaming quarterbacks explores viable options for owners needing a temporary starter.

• Jason Moore advocates for holding onto Mitchell Trubisky due to recent performance improvements:

  "His last two games, specifically at home, have been unbelievable."
  (55:15)

• Mike Wright discusses the challenges of streaming QBs with tough matchups:

  "If you put that Kansas City defense back up in Denver... it’s thin."
  (56:15)

The hosts emphasize evaluating quarterbacks based on upcoming defenses and matchups to maximize weekly points.

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6. Tight Ends

The discussion on tight ends focuses on identifying undervalued options and potential breakout players.

• CJ Uzama is highlighted for his involvement and red-zone targets:

  "Three of the last six weeks he's been a top 12 tight end."
  (52:38)

• Chris Herndon is approached with caution due to fluctuating snap counts:

  "The team does not... have a lot of confidence in him yet."
  (53:05)

The advice centers on balancing risk with potential upside when adding tight ends from the waiver wire.

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7. Conclusion

The episode wraps up with the hosts reiterating the importance of strategic waiver moves and quarterback streaming. They encourage listeners to participate in their ongoing contests and support their podcast through votes and engagement.

• Mike Wright closes with a reminder:

  "Head over to footclanvote.com if you want to help us out."
  (58:54)

The hosts maintain their signature humor and camaraderie, leaving listeners equipped with actionable insights for their fantasy football endeavors.

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Notable Quotes

• Jason Moore (01:22):

  "He couldn't hurt you last week and he can't hurt you this week."

• Andy Holloway (05:49):

  "He's still something to think about."

• Mike Wright (08:16):

  "If you want to support us, go to footclanvote.com."

• Jason Moore (25:53):

  "Geronimo is my number one pickup this week."

• Andy Holloway (55:15):

  "I'm staying in the Flames with Mitchell Trubisky."

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Final Thoughts

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers offers a comprehensive guide to navigating Week 8 waivers, with expert advice on key players and strategic streaming options. The hosts balance detailed analysis with engaging banter, ensuring listeners are well-prepared to make informed fantasy football decisions.

For more insights and updates, join the Fantasy Football community at johndraft.comballers and follow them on Twitter @theffballers.

Transcript

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

You did it again, you old so and so. Welcome into the Fantasy Footballers podcast for Tuesday, October 23rd, 2018. Waivers on the show today. News and notes, QB streamers. Yeah, that's Amari. Oh, Mr. Cooper traveling leaving the Bay Area, heading to Dallas.

[Jason Moore]

You know, I will say congratulations to all the Amari Cooper owners last week. Yeah, I mean, I think that this is good news if you actually own Amari Cooper. It's one of those things where you, he couldn't hurt you last week and he can't hurt you this week. You get the double buy, you get bye week last week, bye week this week. He cannot be put in your roster and poop on your team. So congratulations.

[Mike Wright]

So, yeah, the system is sitting him for us at this point. Yeah, it is taken over, I find.

[Jason Moore]

That'S when he's best.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Well, we'll talk about it. We had the big Monday night game last night. It ended up being a little closer than some expected. Started slow, but the fantasy point started rolling towards the end for some of the bigger names. Did you guys have any takeaways from last night's ball game? Eli Manning, 399 yards, one touchdown. And it was a last touchdown at.

[Andy Holloway]

The very end after he had already made two buffoon decisions. One to not spike the ball, two to record it back, sneak right into a pile of 10,000 men.

[Jason Moore]

Twice.

[Andy Holloway]

Twice. Yeah, I mean, back to back, it didn't work this time, but it's definitely gonna work this time. But shocking that a man could throw 399 yards. So I guess it was, it was like a one yard touchdown. Right. So he had thrown 398 yards without a touchdown. That's, that's, that's a feat.

[Mike Wright]

Well, they had gone, I believe, six or seven quarters without a, an offensive touchdown of any kind. So they seem snake bit even on fourth down down there. I mean, they had multiple trips into the red zone and I think Eli Manning at one point was like 1 for 8 in the red zone last night. So it's look, it's a. You're happy if you own Odell Beckham Jr. Or Saquon Barkley. Sterling Shepard had a monster game. You're not happy with Evan Angrum?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

But you had to make a decision this week to go right back to him off the injury.

[Andy Holloway]

And I did. It was very disappointing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Or wait, I guess he did have one rush for 10 yards. But look Tevin Coleman, 11 for 15, a touchdown. Very disappointing performance for those expecting something out of Edo Smith this week. Edo Smith had seven carries for 16 total yards and two receptions. I thought he looked okay, but the utilization was there. It wasn't the efficiency production.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean it's a lot of what we said last week, which is he's not a special player, but he's in a good situation. And the Falcons didn't score as much as you would have hoped. I mean this was. And I think that was a product of basically the Giants not scoring on the Falcons, forcing the Falcons to be more aggressive. So it became a little bit conservative as the game went on. The Falcons were up. You know, they weren't pressured into throwing the ball deep. I feel like had the Giants been able to, you know, put a couple more touchdowns on the board, this would have been a great game. But it was exactly the fear we had going in. We talked about this. Was it yesterday of just will the Giants actually be able to score enough on the Falcons to make to capitalize on the bet on the. On the injured defense of Atlanta?

[Andy Holloway]

To be fair for to Ito, Tevin Coleman was having an atrocious day until he ripped off the 30 yard touchdown. I mean the Giants were completely stopping the run game.

[Mike Wright]

That's true. He would have been 11 for 20 outside of the 30 yard touchdown run. And Ito wasn't any better at 7 for 16. Amar. Not Amari. Mr. Hooper. Who? Not Cooper, but Hooper. 3 for 48. Just four targets in this game. You saw the return of Ridley and Sanu. Are you. Is this a return to earth from Hooper? This was his chance to be full NBA Jam on fire for fantasy owners.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's cooled off. I'm not saying you can't continue to.

[Andy Holloway]

See low end tight end one, but.

[Jason Moore]

He'S a low end tight end one. Maybe even outside those top 12.

[Mike Wright]

You know, Hooper or Brait rest of season Hooper.

[Jason Moore]

I would go Hooper just because I think you'll get more volume. Touchdowns will probably still be bright though.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it could be. The one target he did not catch was an end zone target.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So what else from this game. Anything else? Matt Ryan 31 for 39. 379. Just one touchdown. He looked great to me. I think adding Calvin Ridley to that offense just, you know, that's why we've seen the resurgence of Matt Ryan's fantasy value.

[Jason Moore]

I think that combined with the absence of Devonta Freeman, they are having a problem. Tevin Coleman has. He's been okay for fantasy. He's gotten it done, but I. He has not. Yeah, he's been inefficient. He has not looked great and Ito is nothing super special. So I think that's forced them to throw the ball more. And. And Matt Ryan has. I agree. He's looked really good outside of week one.

[Mike Wright]

A lot of fantasy owners were excited at the prospect of Tevin Coleman leaving this season. He's a free agent becoming, you know, the next big thing out there as a headliner. Has his lack of production this season with these opportunities. I mean, he's significantly worse this year than he's been previously. Is that dynasty wise? If you're an owner of Tevin Coleman, do you have a little bit of concern here or minimal, he'll still be.

[Andy Holloway]

The number two hotness behind only Le'Veon Bell as far as free agent running backs go.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but people don't pay for him very often.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

To not be part of a timeshare that is. I mean, Jerick McKinnon had that perfect situation.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he would.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't expect Coleman to get a. That, you know, 70%, 3 down roll from anywhere, but he can. He'll still be the leader of something.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe I could see him getting a Dion Lewis type of situation where in free agency he's signed to a team that has another back and he just goes. And he's a continual part of a running back by committee. He has not impressed anyone this year.

[Mike Wright]

Isaiah Cruell situation too, where you're kind.

[Andy Holloway]

Of could go to Houston.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah. Where Lamar Miller went to.

[Andy Holloway]

He would be very interesting in Houston.

[Mike Wright]

All right, before we get into the news and notes, we have a few announcements.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yes, we do.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, we got some exciting news yesterday. Jason can't even breathe.

[Andy Holloway]

Soul is leaving his body.

[Mike Wright]

It's such a big deal. I don't think that's from the podcast world. I don't think that's a good thing to listen to. I think that's a little scary.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Might be weird.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you ready? Foot Clan, assemble. We need you. Once again, Foot Clan, big time.

[Mike Wright]

We are honored to announce that we were nominated for the inaugural iHeartRadio podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

Awards out of nowhere.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

We didn't even know this thing existed.

[Andy Holloway]

They didn't know it existed.

[Mike Wright]

And this will be a full on awards ceremony in January. We were the company that we have in the sports category, five other juggernaut shows. So this is a great honor to be nominated. We're going to test them to the listeners out there and believe it or not, you're in control. Yes, because we were nominated. But it is a listener vote to see who takes home the inaugural best sports podcast award from iHeartRadio. And here's how it works. You can go to footclanvote.com and you can do it every day.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

We need you and we appreciate your vote. It's easy when we say you can vote five times a day. There's just this button that says, would you like to vote five times? Yes. Click it. So it's very easy. But obviously you're going to set an alarm, a daily alarm from now till January 8th, and you'll just do this every day as part of your balanced diet.

[Mike Wright]

You brush your teeth, you vote for us, you go on your day. You can Also check out FootClangiveAway.com, just one of the ways we keep trying to give back to you guys. A signed Saquon Barkley jersey, now available. A free giveaway. Go get it. Go get that Barkley. So good.

[Jason Moore]

He is.

[Mike Wright]

He's so good.

[Jason Moore]

Who would you rather have, Alvin Camara or Saquon Barkley?

[Andy Holloway]

Are we talking about real life football or fantasy football?

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy football.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

It's.

[Mike Wright]

I think I'll take.

[Andy Holloway]

It's still Camara for me.

[Jason Moore]

It's Saquon to me. And it's not that close.

[Mike Wright]

It's because the guaranteed workload, like he's getting nine catches a game, just like Camara is.

[Jason Moore]

It's a matter of the Mark Ingram situation, where there's no one in I mean obviously it's a matter of the box score.

[Andy Holloway]

There's never looking at the giants zero in the first, three in the second, three in the third.

[Mike Wright]

But that's. And Barkley scored 20 something fantasy points, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, because he got the touchdown at the very end of the game.

[Mike Wright]

But that's happened every week. I get what Jason's saying because there's never going to be a. It was a Wayne Goleman week. Right. You know, but you might say that.

[Jason Moore]

With Alvin Camara cannot be game script. If they're losing, he gets.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair.

[Jason Moore]

10 receptions if they're winning. He's the reason.

[Mike Wright]

He's doing everything we wish David Johnson was doing on a bad offense. All right, let's get into the news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they did it. Congratulations. John.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

What do you have to say about the, the wheeling and dealing, Jon Gruden? What do you.

[Andy Holloway]

This one is great. Yeah, this, this one is fantastic. It was floated out last week that the Raiders were going to want a first round draft pick for Amari Cooper. And the entire fantasy football Twitter laughed hysterically. Not bloody likely. But we forgot, we forgot about Jerry Jones. I called it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Brooks, you did.

[Mike Wright]

Brooks is a die hard Dallas fan. How do you feel, Brooks? Are you excited about this opportunity with the Amari Cooper going into the fifth year option?

[Jason Moore]

Well, considering the Patriots got Josh Gordon.

[Andy Holloway]

For a fifth, to be fair, Josh Gordon is not under contract next year. Amari Cooper is though, for $14 million.

[Jason Moore]

I saw Adam Schefter for one year. Like the defense of the Cowboys. Right. He's six months older than Calvin Ridley. He's only 24, two time Pro Bowler or whatever. He's young and they've got this. But when you actually look at what he said, it was okay. So he's still older than a first round pick. He's far more, far more expensive than the actual pick. And he has been okay. I mean I get the 2000 yard seasons when he wasn't the guy. When he was.

[Mike Wright]

That would be two separate thousand yard seasons. Not a 2,000 yard season if he.

[Jason Moore]

Had a 2,000 yard season. I'm on board.

[Mike Wright]

Here's the case. I'll make the case. We'll talk about fantasy value right now. So do you guys be percolating your projections trying to decide whether he's a wide receiver five or six? Here's the case for Amari Cooper. You ready for this, Brooks? Do you want the reasons why this is a good deal? Please. Here's the Actual truth. If getting Amari Cooper is enough to let Dallas evaluate Dak Prescott for a long term deal. If they feel like. Because the excuse could be there that Dak doesn't have, like they took away his wide receiver. One, he doesn't have the weapons to be evaluated. You have Zeke, but he's not a, he's not a wide receiver. And you have a, you know, a rookie out there, a Colt Beasley, and no one else. So if the excuse can be made that. Look, you get a number one pick, a top 10 wide receiver. He's 24 years old now you get to decide on Dak. Maybe you save money in the long term because you don't throw $100 million at Dak Prescott.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And the reality is Dak Prescott is an inaccurate quarterback. Who does? Bryant last season, I believe was better than Amari Cooper this season. If you're just talking about those two human beings in a vacuum as a wide receiver, their abilities, their routes, their, their, their skill sets in a Hoover. And, and Des Bryant wasn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Wasn't that funny to me? I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

And Des Bryant wasn't all that valuable. Right now you've got Amari Cooper coming over and he's never run around with Dak in his life. So if you think this is just going to be magic, you know, right out the gate, I think you're, you're fooling yourself. If I have a Marty Cooper, we talked about this. Yes. I would be selling because a lot of people are going to be all about it. Hey, he's going to where he's completely the guy he just was. You know, it's like, oh, Dak really needs him, Dax. I mean, I don't, I don't see a situation here where Mari Cooper is better than a fifth grader. Boomer. Boomer bust wide receiver, too, which is pretty much what he's been. Yeah. And we've been selling him already. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I think this is a lateral move for fantasy value for Cooper.

[Mike Wright]

So, yeah, to that point this year, Derek Carr. Do you know how many yards per game he's averaging?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't.

[Mike Wright]

300. He's averaging 297 more than Dakota.

[Andy Holloway]

Passing volume in Dallas is horrifically low.

[Mike Wright]

That's the problem. So you have to have everything go right. And Dak is averaging 202.

[Jason Moore]

Now I will say yards per game. I do think it is good news for Dak. I don't, I don't expect Amari Cooper.

[Mike Wright]

That's a good point.

[Jason Moore]

Change things. But Dak has been fantasy relevant in the past. He's starting to run again more and more. We've seen that over the last couple weeks. He's had some good fantasy outputs and now he gets another weapon to just. I mean, look, his number one wide receiver has been Cole Beasley. A rookie Michael Gallup. Alan Hearns has been sucking on the outside.

[Mike Wright]

That's better news for Dak.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. I would. You know, Dak is now interesting to me as a streamer because he's got another option.

[Mike Wright]

If only they could call plays correctly there, that'd be neat. Raiders have placed Marshawn lynch on the injured reserve, which, you know, they traded a Mari Cooper. They've lost Marshawn lynch going hard after that.

[Andy Holloway]

They're not tanking though. Definitely not tanking.

[Mike Wright]

When does Jordy get shipped back to Green Bay?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you said that yesterday. I was like, that would be such a good. Like just, hey, they need them.

[Mike Wright]

I can see Jordy sitting in an empty locker room with a tumbleweed rolling by. I mean, there's just, it's full rebuild there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

They have three first round picks. So if that was the goal. You did it, John. Rob Gronkowski could be ready. Oh, this is great. Could be ready for next Monday night's game against the Bills.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a problem.

[Mike Wright]

This is a fantasy football problem.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a problem.

[Mike Wright]

Not fair.

[Jason Moore]

You don't play Gronk this week. I mean, I just, I. The fact that there are reports that there were some that's like, oh, he's going to need to miss some time. Some that say, oh, he'll be ready for this next week. But if you don't have that, unless come Sunday, it's 100%, he's practiced in full all week and he's good to go. Which that's not going to happen. You have to start someone on Sunday.

[Mike Wright]

Well, what happened was Rob Gronkowski came down with back spasms on Friday and that was unexpected. And it's not expected to be a severe issue, but he has a history of back issues. There is no tight end to play.

[Jason Moore]

There's Charles Clay. Right.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, so like I said, there is no tight end to play on Monday Night Football.

[Jason Moore]

Well, let me ask you this. Would you rather next week start on a Sunday an Austin Hooper type of guy and get.

[Andy Holloway]

There's no way you have Hooper though.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

If I had Hooper as the Gronko.

[Jason Moore]

Cameron Brait. Okay. Right. That's.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the question.

[Jason Moore]

So would you rather start a Cameron braid on Sunday? I don't think versus grabbing Charles Charles Clay and saying I'm going to go for Gronk and if I don't get Gronk, I'm going to downgrade to Charles Clay. What's the difference between Clay and Brait?

[Mike Wright]

It's 100% based on the reports this week. I mean, there's no need to make a Monday or Tuesday conclusion here. That's my opinion.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. People aren't rushing to the waivers to pick up Charles Clay. He'll be there.

[Mike Wright]

Well, and it's a matter of maybe somebody plays defense against the Gronk person in that case. But I want to hear what happens the rest of this week. Is he practicing in a limited fashion? Is he feeling fine? I think we might know with enough lead time if you need to sign a guy on. You know, if we find out by Saturday that things are looking rosy, I'm rolling him out there as a taking a chance versus hey, maybe I grabbed three or four points from. From Charles Clay. The gamble is worth much more than three or four points.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Kenny Stills ruled out for week eight. Albert Wilson expected to miss multiple weeks waiver show Today we'll talk about the wide receivers in Miami.

[Andy Holloway]

You did move over.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going back.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Sony, Michelle. Adam Schefter reported he avoided structural damage in the knee and his week to week.

[Andy Holloway]

Great news.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Best case scenario for the way that injury looked. But you know, not likely to be out there this week, right?

[Andy Holloway]

I would assume so.

[Mike Wright]

We'll talk about Kenyon Barner as a supplemental running back. Royce Freeman considered day to day. He reported reportedly suffered a high ankle sprain during the Broncos game.

[Andy Holloway]

If you got a high ankle sprain, you're not day to day.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that. Tell that to Matt Burrita.

[Andy Holloway]

You're weak to weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Matt Burrito was told he had a high ankle sprain and he don't care.

[Andy Holloway]

He did.

[Mike Wright]

If you tell yourself if you have a high ankle sprain and you tell yourself it's a low ankle sprain, don't start Royce Freeman. That's the point.

[Andy Holloway]

It's okay if you have a high ankle sprain to say, maybe I should rest this. Yeah, it's okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Someone went to Matt Breida. They're like, this is normally a two to four week injury. Oh, I can play this week. All right. Doug Marone announced that Blake Bortles will be remaining as the starting quarterback, but on a short leash. I thought that was his entire tenure in Jacksonville. Just get ready. Blake bortles 488 yards six touch. Seriously, you never know. You never know. All right, we're gonna, we're gonna get into the main event, the waivers. We're going to do it a little differently today. Always trying to make the waiver show better, more helpful for you so you can make some moves, pivot off of these injured players and steal a win. But before we do that, I want to thank pristine auction.com. pristine auction is the absolute best place for amazing autographed sports memorabilia. What am I talking about? Hundreds of daily auctions, including, look, some of your favorite players. Tyreek Hill signed Chiefs jersey yesterday. Sold at auction, $90.09. Antonio Brown signed Steelers jersey yesterday, $81.90. You want to pick up a little Ty Hilton photo? No big deal. $24.57 yesterday on auction. The catch is this. There's hundreds of daily auctions and they're all certified authentic autographs from the absolute best on the Internet. We've talked about them for years. You got to check them out. Get yourself something nice. Get someone, you know something nice for Christmas because that's coming. So pristineauction.com p r I-t I n-and.

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Mike Wright]

Getting a little flustery with them drawers.

[Jason Moore]

Dude, they're so good.

[Andy Holloway]

I freaking Love my Tommy Johns.

[Mike Wright]

All right, we're going to talk waivers right here, right now. A reminder, teams returning from the bye week, Green Bay, Oakland, what's left of them, Pittsburgh and Seattle. And then the teams going on by in week eight, Atlanta, Dallas, Los Angeles. That would be the Chargers and the Tennessee Titans. And a reminder, as we talk about waivers this week, not only are those four teams on bye, but next week in week nine, there are six teams on by. Because.

[Jason Moore]

Why, why not?

[Mike Wright]

But here's the thing. If you've got the space on your bench and you prep for week nine now, you get players cheap.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You get wins.

[Mike Wright]

Especially if you're signing players from Atlanta, Dallas, Los Angeles or Tennessee. The four teams going on by this week, if you sign players from those teams, you're probably not going to have a lot of competition on the fringes because those players can't play and help somebody this week. Just a little tipsy. Mike. You doing all right?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm good, man.

[Jason Moore]

And you know, just. I know we're going to start at wide receivers, but one thing we didn't cover in all the Amari Cooper news, We talked about Amari, we talked about Dak. But what does this do to the. I mean, look, he's one of the target leaders gone. Jordy Nelson is more valuable now. I know there's about like 35% of leagues that he might still be available in. He's not a 100% owned guy. But does this, does this do anything for Martavis Bryant or Seth Roberts? Is it.

[Mike Wright]

It does boost Jordy's floor to me because 300 yards a game. Derek Carr's throwing for 300 a game. I mean he's had some of these high yardage games and we've seen Jordy have some success. So is he in, in your. On your radar? Would you want to go grab him?

[Jason Moore]

I would. I mean, he's the clear cut. Number one.

[Andy Holloway]

As a what, as a wide receiver? Three.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, I'm not a wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Two.

[Jason Moore]

No, a wide receiver. Three. Someone that I think I can regularly put in my flex or if you're playing three wide receivers regularly start. There's just going to be enough passing volume there and he's going to be a primary beneficiary.

[Mike Wright]

He's had three double digit games. The Seattle game was trash. His last one, two for six. But the three games before he had scored in. So yeah, something to think about. All right. Starting at the wide receiver position, main pickups this week, the guys worth talking about. And then we'll pick out some favorites. Let's start in Green Bay. You've got GERONIMO ALLISON. Only 37% owned was on the buy. And Mike McCarthy has said that Geronimo Alison will be incorporated into practice today. He had been banged up. Randall Cobb's been banged up. And then Marquez Valdez Scantling, only 8% owned was on by as well. What do you guys think about the Green Bay whiteouts?

[Andy Holloway]

Mike Geronimo is my favorite pickup of the week at the wide receiver position. Welcome back. He was close to playing this past week with his hamstring, but now he's had plenty of time to get it right for Marquez.

[Jason Moore]

He's.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a very interesting player. Rookie wide receiver. But with Geronimo and Randall Cobb back, the way that Mike McCarthy runs things, I would assume those guys are just right back into the starting lineup regardless of how, of how well and what Valdez Scantling actually brings to the team. So it while he's at Scantling's an interesting stash. If Randall Cobb and Allison are actually healthy and fully practicing, I don't know what the value is besides really deep leagues.

[Mike Wright]

Geronimo is my favorite pickup as well. Coming back to an Aaron Rodgers offense, being a player that they. They've needed desperately.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been great this year for fantasy as well.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. But I agree with you on Marquez thoughts on the wide receivers there in Green Bay, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

I echo what you guys say. Geronimo is my number one pickup this week, but I would also throw out Randall Cobb's name because you need to check a lot of. A lot of places he's available. I literally just checked in our league of record, I was like, oh, yeah, Randall Cobb is available. So you know, he's a guy that you could pick up. And I know he had a couple bad weeks after that unbelievable week one. But in week one, he was, you know, a top wide receiver. He is still a guy that's got the rapport with Aaron Rodgers. It sure seems like since he's been. Since he's been gone. Thank you. You're welcome. It sure seems like Aaron Rodgers could have used him like he was. He was missing that guy. So I would rather have Geronimo on the outside over Cobb, but those two are who I'm looking first for, first and foremost.

[Mike Wright]

All right. I think another pair of receivers is worth discussing and those would be the couple of Williams there in Los Angeles. The Chargers. Tyrell Williams. Another monster week. He is the king of the boom play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

He's averaging 15.9 yards per target, which is number one in the league. So he's at the, at the peak of his yards per target, he has 920 plus yard receptions, which is in the top 10 by the way. Hopkins leads that category, in case you were curious.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

But Tyrell Williams is the pinnacle of the boomer bus type of player. However, he's boomed twice in a row here. First play from scrimmage was a, you know, touchdown and he's got the bye week.

[Jason Moore]

That's, that's the main issue. I, if he were playing this week, I think I'd take a shot. I really would. Because even though I'm not, you don't want to be chasing points. But watching the games and seeing how often you know he's going to, I feel like, you know, in the situation where you're always expecting it to be keen and I'm watching the game and I'm going. He was kind of looking Tyrell's way in the. Just in how the reads, not necessarily every target, but with them being on by, it's very difficult. I think. I don't want to. Tyrell's not a guy I'm willing to be so confident in that I'll pick up and stash through a buy. So with the Williams twins there, I think I'm out.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. Maybe next week one next Tuesday. I'm interested in picking up certainly on.

[Jason Moore]

All the buys necessary next week.

[Mike Wright]

Now, I know no one wants to play for them, but as a rookie he's obligated to. Christian Kirk, wide receiver for the Arizona Cardinals, has San Francisco, Kansas City, Oakland on the docket for the next three weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he's got the bye week in the middle, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he does. After the San Francisco week, however, Kirk for the last five weeks, six or more targets, he has one of the better catch percentages in football. He has the rapport with Josh Rosen, which hasn't translated to much fantasy wise. But last week, three receptions, 57 yards. The week before, seven, six for 77. How do you weigh out stashing a guy like Christian Kirk? Because obviously we've seen it at every position. A rookie evolves over time. More snaps, more targets. New offensive coordinator.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's the hope.

[Mike Wright]

And so are you taking, are you interested?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I am very interested. He's. He's probably my number two behind the Packers. And the reason why, if you take out those first two games on the season, the Sam Bradford games, where, you know, it was completely different since Josh Rose has come in from week three on Christian Kirk is on pace for 74 receptions and 1078 yards. I mean that's a serviceable player. And you're disappointed in the touchdown count. You know, that's one of the things where he's. His blow up potential isn't there. But if you're in a PPR league, a 70 plus reception thousand yard guy is going to be someone you can flex on a regular basis. And as you brought up Andy, look, he's a rookie. He's developing, he's developing the rapport with a fellow rookie. I think the trajectory will go up, not down as the season goes along.

[Mike Wright]

And if the rumors bear out and Patrick Peterson's traded, that defense gets even softer. This is a team that's going to be forced to come back in a lot of ball games, which could mean garbage time. Help from Christian Kirk. Do you like Christian Kirk more than fellow rookie Treekwon Smith in New Orleans who had a very impressive, you know, he's only 3 for 44 on six targets. But he out snapped Cameron Meredith last week, 53 to 18. You want to know why I figured it out? Because Sean Payton's not dumb. Sean Payton, unlike somebody else, another dumb coach that might say, hey, I made it. I had an obligation to Cameron Meredith with this contract. It's not that Meredith is bad. It's that, hey, let's put the most talented players out there that can make special plays. Trey Kwon is in that category. I think baby Josh is a big Treekwon Smith fan. Is that true?

[Andy Holloway]

Baby Josh Smith's a good player and he's going up against Minnesota, which, oh, you're like, oh crap, Vikings.

[Mike Wright]

Isn't that who Jermaine Curse just faced?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but here's the thing. Xavier Rhodes, but we got to check, of course on his, on his injury.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he's.

[Andy Holloway]

But well, he's gone.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know for sure, but I can't fathom the way that that injury happened and the way he was taken off the field. If Xavier Rhodes is back this week, I'll just be shocked.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure. My point was, regardless if Rhodes is on the field, he's going to, he's going to shadow Michael Thomas, which could open things up for Traquan Smith. If he's gone, that's a huge upgrade for Drew Brees in the passing offense of the Saints. I would rather take the shot on Smith than Christian Kirk. Now the big play ability, better offense, much better offense. Arizona's offense, it's the worst.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you know what? I'm going to pivot here because honestly, what I was going to bring up was the inverse situation. You've got San Francisco for Christian Kirk followed by a bye week. Whereas with, you know, so it was like, if you need to start now, Christian Kirk is the better option. I was going to inverse. If you don't need the start now, if you need it for next week's buy, then your better option is Trequan Smith. But I forgot about the Xavier Rose until you started bringing that up. And I think that will hurt them after that game. You've got the Los Angeles Rams, who are going to be able to score and have a back and forth game, and the Bengals. So I love it. Breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

Huge news.

[Mike Wright]

Did we win Rashad Matthews? Rashard Matthews has signed with the New York jets as of five seconds ago.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you talking about the podcast?

[Jason Moore]

I was just curious. Had come out already?

[Mike Wright]

No, we haven't won in the 20 minutes that we've been recording and no one's been able to vote because this is being recorded right now.

[Andy Holloway]

I voted.

[Mike Wright]

You voted while the show was gone?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, five times.

[Mike Wright]

So Rashad Matthews signed. I mean, I might as well announce that news right in the middle of the wide receivers. Are you interested?

[Andy Holloway]

Am I interested? No.

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm not.

[Andy Holloway]

Either I am in Matthews or interested in Robbie Anderson.

[Jason Moore]

I am a little interested in Rashad Matthews. Not necessarily someone I'm picking up right now, this week. And I know this is clearly upsetting Andy, but they need a. They need a wide receiver. And I do believe that Rashad Matthews is quality NFL receiver. So I'm not picking him up. I'm not bidding on him this week, but I'm definitely going to keep an eye on it. Because if you asked me before the season, who's the best wide receiver of Quincy Nunois, Jermaine Curse, Terrell Pryor, Robbie Anderson. Robbie Anderson and Rashad Matthews. I would say it's going to be close between Robbie Anderson and Rashad Matthews, but for a guy that's not usually going down the field, Rashad Matthews would be the guy to own. So I'll keep my eyes on him, but I'm not sure. Don't you know, I'm not. I'm not bidding on him. I'm not.

[Mike Wright]

You love him. All right, look, I'm not legally allowed to talk about jets wide receivers, so I'm not going to chime in there.

[Andy Holloway]

I would rather be stashing someone like Cortland Sutton than Rashard Matthews.

[Mike Wright]

On the event that trades.

[Andy Holloway]

There's the rumors, the Whispers from the bushes are coming in.

[Jason Moore]

You have to pick them up. If. If he's on waivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Have to that both demarius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders teams are looking in. There was even a quote from demarius Thomas saying something to the tune of my time is coming to an end in Denver. I mean, he knows he's a smart guy. So if one of those players moves on, Cortland Sutton is automatically moved up to the number two wide receiver on the team. He's already got interesting enough production that he can do things even if those other two guys are still on the team. But if a trade happens, Sutton gets a huge upgrade.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm going full, like, pump fakes and my pivoting. I'm continuing. I'm down in the post. I'm pivoting again after Geronimo.

[Mike Wright]

You're traveling same pivot foot.

[Jason Moore]

No, you just switch pivot foot.

[Mike Wright]

You switch pivot foot.

[Jason Moore]

If.

[Mike Wright]

Are you just changing. Are you just moving through what might not be my last name?

[Jason Moore]

The reality is, while I like Kirk, I like Treekwon Smith, their upside is not what Cortland Sutton's upside would be if one of those two guys gets traded.

[Mike Wright]

I don't agree with that.

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Because, look, if Trey Kwon gets that role, you're the.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got it. It's done.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You're the number two for Drew Brees right now. So you have. You still have longer odds that one of those two guys gets traded than not gets traded, then doesn't get traded. And if they do get traded, Cortland Sutton's the number two on that offense. It's not Drew Brees. It's Case Keenum. I think I still. As much as I love the talent of Cortland Sutton, when you factor in the risk of a guy having to be traded versus Traquan already being in that situation, I firmly. I'm on the Trequan side.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Smith, Sutton, Kirk for me.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. Are you interested In Chris Hogan, Mike 6 or 63?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's.

[Mike Wright]

We were.

[Andy Holloway]

I was done with him two weeks ago, and that's when he finally started putting up some production. But I'll say this. If Gronk misses again, then. Then maybe Chris Hogan in yet another revenge game.

[Mike Wright]

Jason, are you interested in Danny Amendola or Jakeem Grant in Miami with all the injuries to Albert Wilson and Devonte Parker and Kenny Stills, I was hoping.

[Jason Moore]

You brought up Danny Amendola's name. That's the one that I am the most.

[Mike Wright]

Six for 84 and a touchdown last week.

[Jason Moore]

Six 484 and a touchdown. And their wide receiver court is depleted. I think that the two guys that are going, three guys will be the biggest beneficiary. But two guys that I'm actively looking at, maybe targeting because I think they're more fantasy relevant would be Danny Amendola, Kenyon Drake. But Jakeem Grant also stands to have a. Have an uptick in his opportunity.

[Mike Wright]

Are you interested in DJ Moore, Mike, @ all? David Moore, any of the Moore's, Jason Moore? What do you think of Jason Moore? I would not bid on Jason.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that is sleep. Because I'm already stashing you last man on the bench.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my arm is.

[Andy Holloway]

What is wrong with you?

[Jason Moore]

My arm is wrong with your arm. I worked out this morning, Mike, and pumped the weight.

[Mike Wright]

He pivoted. He's been pivoting all over the place. He's tracked. Did you see there was this fast break a couple days ago in the NBA Zombie by Victor Oladipo. Way out ahead of everybody, right? Stole the ball and then decided, I'm just gonna. He went dribbling is optional.

[Jason Moore]

He went slam dunk. Contest rules.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And he just picked up the ball around the three point line.

[Mike Wright]

Pivot, pivot, pivot, pivot.

[Jason Moore]

He had 20 pivots and then a slam dunk. And the other player who was chasing him downs like doing the traveling signal. Nothing called. It's just the ref goes, yeah, it's pretty cool. Don't.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's allowed. We need to. We need to move on to running backs. But real quick on those favorites. Your favorites. Geronimo, Allison, how much fab would you spend on him? Would you blow a waiver priority on Geronimo, Allison?

[Jason Moore]

Jerome Alison's the only guy I would spend up for. I'd spend 15% of my fab. Everybody else, I'm probably sitting around 5% of my fab.

[Mike Wright]

How much were you, Mike, Go ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to say I'm with Jason for Geronimo, but I would be aggressive with Traquan Smith. Now that we've seen this play out, the wide margin of snap percentages. Snap percentage for Traquan Smith, I'd go in on him.

[Mike Wright]

Negative. Fab for curse. Is that the.

[Andy Holloway]

That is correct.

[Mike Wright]

All right, running backs, let's get into some of the favorites here. Look, Marlon Mack had the big boy game. He's only 56% owned, so he might be there. A lot of people stashed him through the injury, didn't want to let him go 19 for one. Hundred twenty six last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Finally rewarded it was Buffalo. But this week he has Oakland. So you. I mean, I think most people want to go grab him and start him. Is he your favorite pickup?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, 100%. I mean, if he's out there, I don't think he's in most leagues, but he's the first guy you have to check for. He. You'd blow your waiver priority. You'd spend up to get him. He's a starting running back on an offense that's going to be putting up points, whether it's because they're having a good game or they're coming back. I really. And I've said this from the offseason, I think Marla Mack is actually a good player. It's nice to see that this is not a Smash Jackson situation or Paul Perkins has opportunity, but he stinks. Marlon Mack, if he's given the opportunity, will be a productive NFL player.

[Mike Wright]

What? Who are you looking at, Mike? Outside of Marlon Mack, who are your other favorites?

[Andy Holloway]

It's a very light week. Jalen Richard gets the bump with Marshawn Lynch.

[Mike Wright]

He has a real opportunity. With Amari Cooper gone. You know, with Derek Carr's inability to throw the ball beyond 5 yards but still accumulate 300 yards passing, I think Jalen Richard is a very like. Would you rather play Jalen Richard this week or an active Matt Burrida not knowing if he's healthy?

[Jason Moore]

I would take Rashard. I would take Rashard over Duke Johnson. I would take Rashad over Aaron Jones. I think Rashad is going to be on him. Rashad is my. That's who I feel is my number one. Because I don't. I don't see Marlon Mack as widely available. As widely available.

[Mike Wright]

I would probably pivoting off a Mac.

[Jason Moore]

Already so far, no travel, one pivot. Yeah. You know, I think I would probably spend 25, 30% of the budget. I'm not crazy.

[Mike Wright]

It's pretty big.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not crazy about him, but I think that's what it's going to take.

[Andy Holloway]

To get him six catches in four of six games this year. At least six.

[Mike Wright]

And that was. Those were games with Marshawn Lynch.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And Amari Cooper.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So I think Richard is very, very interesting. And he's a talented enough player. You can do enough. When you get a guy in space, you only need one or two of those receptions. I mean, you saw it last night. Tevin Coleman wasn't doing much. Got that big reception down the sideline. I think Rashard's interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

He's probably my favorite pickup because I will consider Marlon Mack to be majority owned.

[Jason Moore]

I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

The Chris Ivory, you have to at least look in. We don't know what's going on with Shady's injury. Will he be back this week or not?

[Jason Moore]

If he's.

[Andy Holloway]

If Shady is going to miss and Chris Ivory is going to see a ton of volume 19 touches this past week is to play New England.

[Jason Moore]

It's a Monday night game, so I feel like Chris Ivory.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you might be locked.

[Jason Moore]

Is a Lashawn McCoy handcuff. If you've got Shady, must go get Ivory. You know, trade for him if you need to pick him up. If he's. He should be on waivers in most leagues.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, just go pay for him if you've got McCoy. Yeah, go pay for Ivory and lock that up. Now.

[Jason Moore]

What about the colonel?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Colonel Mustard.

[Jason Moore]

Colonel Mustard.

[Mike Wright]

Raheem Mostert, 13% owned last week. Stepped in for burrito. Seven for 59, four for 19 through the air. Had some juice. Seven, 6.3 yards per carry. Plays a really, really, really, really, really bad Arizona team.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, look, I. All year, if you have played the running backs against the Arizona Cardinals, you have gone away with a victory that week. Smile ear to ear, and it's going to be no different this week. I think the player to own right now of the three of them is Colonel Mustard. And that's, you know, if I'm a burrito owner, I'm certainly going after the Colonel, and I'm starting the Colonel this week. So I don't see Colonel Mustard as a long term solution. Jalen Richard, rest season.

[Andy Holloway]

Colonel Mustard so much. You're pulling a booger.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Oh, don't put that evil on me.

[Mike Wright]

Monday Night Football's showtime. Monday Night Football is unlistenable. You want to know what sucks so.

[Jason Moore]

Bad other than just the Monday Night Football crew? Is that Kurt Warner. Like the radio broadcast team is so.

[Mike Wright]

Good on Westwood One.

[Jason Moore]

I want to go sit in my car.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Kurt Warner is so much better.

[Jason Moore]

I don't need the video product. I can't take the video product.

[Mike Wright]

It's real bad. I guarantee that they will clean that entire house out this offseason. It will be a whole new team.

[Jason Moore]

No, that's a napalm.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna start muting it. Pulling up a microphone and calling the game myself.

[Jason Moore]

I like if people would tune in.

[Mike Wright]

We should do that one week. We should do a substitute Monday Night Football game.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yes.

[Mike Wright]

I can just hear Jay. You wait till Colonel Mustard's on Monday night, I would play the booger roll. Oh, you would definitely play the booger roll.

[Jason Moore]

We're getting you on a little.

[Mike Wright]

We'll put him on a little.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll just wheel you back.

[Mike Wright]

Hover rounds.

[Jason Moore]

It is just the tv. Yes. Oh, that's good.

[Mike Wright]

Just have him panning down the tv.

[Andy Holloway]

And, Mike, that's a projector.

[Jason Moore]

I got some room to move left and right.

[Mike Wright]

I don't even know if I want to be Whitten or the. The color guy. I guess I'm Mr. Vanilla and you get to be Wit.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that would be the.

[Mike Wright]

Good luck. Here's all you have to do, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Hands up.

[Mike Wright]

All your notes in front of your. In front of your face are tight end notes. That's it. Every single play. All the tight ends in a good match up here.

[Andy Holloway]

I like Travis Kelce here.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry, guys.

[Mike Wright]

All right, going back into the running backs. I just want to make sure someone.

[Jason Moore]

Said his real name at some point in that I did.

[Mike Wright]

Colonel Mustard had to make sure. Raheem Mostert. But if. Look, at this point, it's Colonel Mustard in the conservatory. In the conservatory with the candlestick.

[Jason Moore]

He.

[Andy Holloway]

He's interesting.

[Mike Wright]

Any thoughts on Professor Plum in. How much fab.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that Alfred Morri?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Professor Plum. Brooks, you are responsible for this spiral by bringing that.

[Andy Holloway]

I like Mostert.

[Mike Wright]

He.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. He's got juice. Absolutely. But he'll. He'll end up splitting with Alfred Morris.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Aaron Jones could still be on waivers. 69% owned.

[Jason Moore]

So I leave him there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, probably. Dude, got to check out. Look, you got to check him out. Ronald Jones is available in the vast majority of leagues.

[Mike Wright]

Do you want to make a water bet, Jay?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, is this Aaron Jones?

[Mike Wright]

Sorry. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the water bet.

[Mike Wright]

I already know it. It's Aaron Jones. Marlon Mack, rest of season.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Injuries notwithstanding. Yes. They all. Because the thing is with Aaron Jones, the reason I don't like Aaron Jones is not Aaron Jones. It's because it's going to be a complete time shift. So if Jamal Williams gets injured, I'm going out and bidding everything on Aaron Jones. He's a talented guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Then you should be stashing.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not asking you to say that Aaron Jones has no value. I'm saying rest of season. You might make this decision on your waiver this week.

[Jason Moore]

Hit the button.

[Mike Wright]

Because Waterbed, I look at them as both being parts of a potentially troubling timeshare. And right now, I think it's rosy for Mack because you're Coming off a Buffalo game where they led the entire game.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

So I think it's an interesting waterbed. I'll take the better, what I perceive to be the better offense, but we'll see.

[Andy Holloway]

So here's the better player, here's the deeper guys for me at the running back position, Ronald Jones. And this is because there was a weird Peyton Barber injury situation where Dirt Cutter even came out and confirmed it. We don't know what's happening, but they invested the second round in them. Maybe this is the time that we actually see the team see what they have in Ronald Jones and then in much deeper leagues. You're talking about Devonte Booker, Denver Broncos if Royce Freeman is going to miss time, he's already the two minute guy, the pass catcher for the team. He'll see a huge uptick in targets.

[Jason Moore]

And he's going against Kansas City. They're going to be trailing. That's when Devonta Booker is used. He'll be a somewhat startable asset this week. I like that. A lot of questions have come on Deontiforman. Is this the time you stash him? Is this the time you trade for him or pick him up? I looked to trade for him this last week and when I was doing that because I was a huge Deontiforman believer, I know he's coming off a hard injury. I kind of looked at what is, what is the outlook, what is the timeline and when I everything that I could research and find out from beat reporters, doctors, everything I could see is that we're still a ways away from this matter.

[Andy Holloway]

I think we're a year away.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we very well might be. We didn't. They didn't pull him up when they could have. Once they do. The reason they didn't want to pull him up is because once they put him off the PUP, they have 21 days to add him to the active 53 man roster. And they don't think he's 21 days ready. So that's like, okay, if next week they pull him off the Puppet, they're thinking 21 days from then is when he'll be on the active roster and then it'll be another couple weeks before he's taking over. So you're talking about the season's over.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

And then although that division is a little bit wide open and they, they did win.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean the last couple games he might be valuable. But I'm just saying now is not the time. You're going to waste a lot of time with them.

[Andy Holloway]

I Want to mention the names Trenton Cannon, New York Jets. Blau Powell has a neck injury. We don't know what's going on. I know Elijah McGuire is set to come back but you he's at least worth a speculative ad in very deep leagues. And Kenyan Barner who will replace Sony Michelle while he is out. Of course New England might bring Gilly Gilly Gumdrops back into the fold. They might. Who's Mike Gillislee? They might add someone else but if they don't make a move then that's Kenyan Barner's job.

[Mike Wright]

Are you interested in Capri Bibs at all of Chris Thompson's out? No Washington pass catcher?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean he look 4 for 43 and a touchdown through the air on five targets this last week. The wide receiver core is banged up going against the New York Giants. If Chris Thompson is out, I think.

[Andy Holloway]

Capri business Thompson has been out and this is finally we've actually but it.

[Jason Moore]

Was the combination of Chris Thompson out along with all the wide receivers. So they got to pass to somebody.

[Mike Wright]

Give me 60 seconds on handcuff philosophy at this point in the season. Spencer Ware, Jill Bernard, Chase Edmonds, Malcolm Brown, Rod Smith, Wayne Gallman, etc. When do you start thinking about stashing the handcuff for the playoffs?

[Andy Holloway]

100% now. Spencer Ware is a one of those mustache. All I can hear now is the word mustache. Yeah, he's a mustache handcuff. If something were to happen to Kareem Hunt, Malcolm Brown as you saw that when they did not need Todd Gurley, Malcolm Brown was getting all the work was still successful for what we need for fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

Such a great offensive line.

[Jason Moore]

CJ Anderson I think would be able to succeed. Really I do. I mean if, if. I mean handcuffed. So if McCaffrey goes down, I feel.

[Mike Wright]

The same way with Gallman. I mean I think Gallman would just have a lot of targets.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So I mean those are the guys. I don't think it's 100% now because of the bye week in week nine. I think it's going to be difficult to roster your handcuffs. So look at your upcoming schedule. It's different for every team. Go to whatever platform you're on. Click the schedule tab, there's usually one and look at what your team looks like and plan a couple weeks out. Because if you go, oh I don't really have more than, you know, two, you know, irrelevant players on the same buy, then go ahead and stash them now. Otherwise if you're going week nine I'm gonna need a Ross spot.

[Mike Wright]

You know, if you're through the buy with the running back, it makes it a lot easier to do.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. And now I'll say this. I mean, all the players we're talking about right now, if I have Kareem Hunt or I have Todd Gurley, I would much rather have my handcuff ready to go than I think all the guys we've talked about this week.

[Mike Wright]

Real quick, drop question circling back to wide receivers. Would you drop Corey Davis?

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't think I would either, but if I needed to, I would. I mean, bye weeks coming up.

[Mike Wright]

Sutton for Traquan for Christian Kirk.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Wow, that's a really, really hard.

[Jason Moore]

I would rather have Geronimo.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. I mean, Davis has had one big game, but these last three weeks, despite, you know, targets and stuff, he's just not been good. Taji Sharp had all the targets this last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, I don't. That's a really hard one.

[Mike Wright]

All right, we're gonna get into the streaming quarterbacks. Before we do that, let's talk tight ends. Who are your main pickups this week? Who are your favorites at the tight end position?

[Andy Holloway]

Vance McDonald is my favorite ad coming off the by. Yeah, he was for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was a tight end that I was willing to go grab off of the waiver wire if I. If I had a low end starter and I saw someone dropped him for the bye week, I was willing to roster two tight ends and move forward with Vance McDonald. C.J. uzama. He's interesting. The target volume was very low, but he gets to play Tampa Bay.

[Jason Moore]

He's my favorite.

[Andy Holloway]

He's your favorite?

[Jason Moore]

He's my favorite. Andy Dalton this last week was a complete primetime implosion. He. He sucked terribly. He couldn't target anyone other than AJ Green. And Usama still had a touchdown this last week, I think at home against Tampa Bay. CJ Usama is great.

[Andy Holloway]

Ben Watson is also chasing the points of Ben Watson.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know that it's chasing the points. He's been involved enough in the offense.

[Mike Wright]

Three of the last six weeks he's been a top 12 tight end. Red zone targets three straight weeks. Caught the 500 touchdown from Breeze.

[Jason Moore]

And if you look at his schedule, they're all teams that can score on them. Minnesota, the Los Angeles Rams, Cincinnati Bengals. You know they're going to have to put up points in those games.

[Mike Wright]

Some. Are you interested names at the tight end position? Are you interested in Chris Herndon from the New York jets of two straight weeks with a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The problem with Herndon, which is strange because he's been productive, like you said, for fantasy the past two weeks, the snap counts, I mean, they're going down. We're going the wrong way. From 66% three weeks ago down to 39, down to 33.8 this past week.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not.

[Andy Holloway]

The team does not.

[Mike Wright]

Apparently doesn't like Dallas Goddard.

[Jason Moore]

No. There's Ed Dixon.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm not interested. I'm not picking him up yet. He's just now about to come off putt. But I'm telling you, in a couple weeks, Ed Dixon gonna be a thing for you.

[Mike Wright]

He will. Jack Doyle, are you interested in him at all? Because I am not.

[Jason Moore]

Not until after they're by. From what I hear about the injury, if he comes back after the buy, that's no lock.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Some. It's interesting, too, because it's not just Ebron who's been making plays as a tight end in that office. Yeah, Eric Swope.

[Andy Holloway]

But they just keep picking him up and dropping him off the team. He'll be gone once Jack Doyle's back.

[Mike Wright]

Defenses, some defenses for this week. You got to look at New England. Hopefully you grabbed them last week. They take on Buffalo. Arizona at home against San Francisco. San Francisco is giving up the second most points to opposing fantasy defenses in football.

[Jason Moore]

What if Patrick Peterson's gone?

[Mike Wright]

Well, then I'm still.

[Andy Holloway]

He won't be gone this week.

[Mike Wright]

I think Arizona is streamable this week or never, right?

[Andy Holloway]

No, you have until Tuesday.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

What about Kansas City in that pass rush against Denver this week?

[Andy Holloway]

Kansas City I'm very interested in. As well as Pittsburgh versus Cleveland. I think that's a great.

[Mike Wright]

What about the other side of the Arizona matchup? The San Francisco defense against Josh Rosen.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm interested in that as well.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. Let's get into the streams.

[Jason Moore]

Full stream ahead.

[Mike Wright]

Sometimes we call this jaunting through the stream. I mean, it's a very common phrase when you jaunt through the water.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, it's the only way I know how to swim.

[Andy Holloway]

Is jaunting not really a stream this week, though. It's a little more of a.

[Mike Wright]

Was it a rushing river?

[Andy Holloway]

So swamp.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Just kind of mud bogging.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a little gross this week.

[Jason Moore]

Speaking of gross, I'm going to go with a terrible quarterback for my streamer.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like he shouldn't even be allowed in this.

[Mike Wright]

I thought that, too, but he's not 53% owned.

[Jason Moore]

That's look, half of the league, that's pretty available. And if you've been listening, he was my streamer last week. He is who he is. Mitchell Trubisky. I'm staying in. I mean, he's been on fire. His last two games, specifically at home. Home have been unbelievable. This game is at home against the New York Jets. I'm staying in the Flames with Mitchell Trubisky. He's still out there in half of your leagues. It's crazy.

[Mike Wright]

All right, all right, well, maybe I'm cheating too then, because I have Andy Dalton with a bounce back performance this week. All the reasons Jason just stated for CJ Uzama, he's at home against Tampa. I think Andy Dalton can bounce back in a strong way. If you're looking dropped this week, I.

[Jason Moore]

Was going to say if you're looking at your waivers, you're like, man, I don't like any of these quarterback pickups. Mitchell's not there. Just, just wait till tomorrow. Just wait till tomorrow. Andy Dalton will be there. He's like, andy Dalton's not available in my league. Look, tomorrow.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, drop it like it's hot.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I like those two guys. But the rest of it, man, you're just, you're plunging right into the sewer for the rest of these guys because it's Derek Carr. Derek Carr versus the Colts.

[Jason Moore]

Case Keenum.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I'm not playing Case Keenan versus Kansas City. I am not going to do it.

[Mike Wright]

It's at Arrowhead that, that's the biggest problem there. You put that Kansas City defense back up in Denver and maybe, maybe I.

[Andy Holloway]

Feel like I would rather play Joe Flacco.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like Jason didn't just watch Andy Dalton implode at Arrowhead against this team.

[Jason Moore]

I believe that was Andy Dalton primetime.

[Mike Wright]

Andy Dalton did not go into his, like, locker and be like, is this a primetime game? Okay, I'm going to suck tonight. Like Kansas City had played a part.

[Jason Moore]

He said that for years.

[Mike Wright]

He's played a part in it. They played a part in it. Yeah. It's thin, though. I mean, you've got Baker turned into a decent start last week. Baker had, you know, 26, 27 fantasy points. He plays Pittsburgh.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's a trap this week.

[Mike Wright]

Probably is.

[Andy Holloway]

If you're, if, if you're looking to stream in Pittsburgh, they just, they put so much pressure on the quarterback and Baker's taking sacks.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Like nobody's business.

[Jason Moore]

So who's your streamer?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness. My, my official streamer.

[Jason Moore]

We need a drum roll sound effect on yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

My official streamer is CJ Beathard versus Arizona.

[Jason Moore]

That's where we get the. Instead of the drum roll, you get. You get the rim shot.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you should have gone with the rim.

[Mike Wright]

This one. C.J. better.

[Jason Moore]

C.J. beathard.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, my official streamer is. Is Mitch Trubisky, too. If Jason can do it, so can I.

[Jason Moore]

Seats taken.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm jumping on your lap, bro.

[Mike Wright]

I like how you've turned the truth Bisky into just like he was your dream last week. He's your stream this week. Yeah, it's the whole, like, you don't have to let go of him.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah, I mean, if you pick.

[Andy Holloway]

You picked him up to stream him, you're in.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You're in good shape and you can play this terrible quarterback to fantasy success.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. All right, that is it for today's episode. A reminder, head over to footclan vote.com if you want to help us out. We always appreciate it and you guys are what drives this show. We spend all of our waking hours, the ones that you know, that we're not thinking about, Mitch Trubisky. We spend all the other hours trying to make this show better, improve it, make it something you love to make a part of your day, each and every day. So we do appreciate everything you do to help support it, and we're going to keep trying to make it better. We're always listening to feedback too@the FF Ballers on Twitter. Feel free to provide that as long as you don't mention Jermaine curse.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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