Week 9 Studs & Duds + Emotional Takes, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/3

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast - "Week 9 Studs & Duds + Emotional Takes, Monday Punday"

Episode Date: November 3, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway & Jason Moore

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into Week 9’s top fantasy football performers (“studs”) and the biggest let-downs (“duds”), along with the hosts’ trademark emotional takes and signature player puns. Andy and Jason, holding down the fort while Mike is away, deliver rapid reactions to key injuries, break down the highs and lows of the week’s action, and preview crucial waiver pickups and rest-of-season outlooks. The tone is high-energy, humorous, and candid throughout—perfect for passionate fantasy managers locked in a close playoff race.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Fantasy Playoff Implications and Season Turning Point

• [01:27] “We’re getting into the serious time of the year where the differentiators are made between winners and losers, playoffs and out, champs and failures.” (Jason Moore)
• The hosts stress how critical roster decisions are as the fantasy regular season winds down.
• Emotional highs and lows of Week 9: Jason laments close loss streaks, Andy discusses being “deflated” after key injuries.

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Monday Punday – Player Name Puns

• Classic Footballers humor, riffing on player last names with a mix of compliments and venting.
  • “Brock Wowzers.” (Andy, 04:21)
  • “TD Higgins.” (Jason, 05:01)
  • “Tyler sucks.” (Andy, 05:19)
  • “Romeo Goose Egg.” for an actual zero. (Andy, 05:07)

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Major Injury Updates [10:22–15:57]

• Tucker Kraft (knee): Probable torn ACL; MRI on his birthday.
  • “Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Have an MRI.” (Andy, 10:56)
• Jaden Daniels (dislocated elbow): Not necessarily season-ending, but likely due to Commanders’ record.
• Puka Nacua (ribs): Should be okay, McVay suggests it’s minor.
  • “He could have come back in the game. But we… had command.” (Andy, 13:13)
• Aaron Jones (shoulder): Believed minor, possibly only week-to-week.
• Several concussions and other notable injuries—e.g., Marshon Lattimore (torn ACL), Terry McLaurin (held out through Week 12 bye), Samaje Perine (ankle, Bengals on bye).

49ers & Shanahan’s Injury Misinformation

• “Now, Shanahanigans, we haven’t believed anything.” (Jason, 14:52)
• Brock Purdy’s toe likely to linger; more time off prioritized for NFL playoffs.

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Trade Deadline Speculation [07:15–08:17]

• Jets not trading Breece Hall: Only if “an offer they can’t refuse.”
  • Likely means very little movement, but potential targets elsewhere (e.g., Chuba Hubbard) could have sneaky value.

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Quick-Hitting Stud Performances (QB/RB/WR/TE)

Quarterbacks [16:32–23:31]

• Caleb Williams: 280/3 passing, 53 rushing, 2 rec TDs.
  • “They ran the Philly Special… oh my goodness.” (Andy, 16:44)
• Joe Flacco: 470 yards, 4 TDs (career high).
  • “Blazing start… Then the Bengals… took the lead. So it wasn’t garbage time at all.” (Jason, 17:44)
• Josh Allen: “He good.” (Jason, 18:51)
  • Remains dominant, 5-1 regular season vs Mahomes.
• Justin Herbert, Jackson Dart, Sam Darnold, Matthew Stafford: All deliver massive fantasy lines.
• Geno Smith: 284/4 TDs vs. Jags, faces Denver next week.
• Michael Penix, Jr.: 3 TDs in a “clunky” Falcons game.

Running Backs [25:19–32:18]

• Christian McCaffrey: “He’s the 49ers.” [25:53]
  • Now 7th in NFL in receiving yards.
• Rico Dowdle: 25/130/2, played through repeated groin injuries.
  • “He’s got no groins left. He cares. Nothing left to tear.” (Jason, 26:57)
• Kyle Monangai: 26/176 in a surprise RB7 breakout for Bears.
• Kyren Williams, Ashton Jeanty, Jalen Warren, Chase Brown: All delivered value.
• Travis Etienne: “Got tackled at the one yard line five times… scored zero touchdowns.” (Andy, 31:15)
• ETN’s (almost) monster game detailed; goal-line vultures discussed.

Wide Receivers [32:18–37:15]

• Drake London: 3 TDs, breakout after weeks of disappointment.
• Tee Higgins: 7/121/2, “terrible game—I played against him!” (Jason, 32:43)
• Devante Adams, Puka Nacua, Tori Horton, JSN, D.J. Moore: All highlighted for big games.
• Pop Douglas, Rashee Rice, Michael Pittman Jr., Amon-Ra St. Brown: Consistency praised.

Tight Ends [37:11–40:53]

• Brock Bowers: 12/127/3 in return from injury.
  • “He was the exact guy we saw in week one when he was healthy.” (Jason, 37:34)
• Colston Loveland, Dalton Kincaid, Sam LaPorta: Continue to emerge; LaPorta especially physical on his TD run.

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“Duds” – Players Who Let Fantasy Managers Down

Quarterback Duds [43:59–47:41]

• Patrick Mahomes: Career-low completion %, while Josh Allen hit a career high (44:02).
• Jordan Love, Daniel Jones: Both underwhelm—Jones with 3+ turnovers, but a salvageable fantasy line due to “50 passes.”
  • “He had to throw the ball 50 times.” (Jason, 36:23)

Running Back Disappointments [47:41–51:18]

• Jonathan Taylor: 14/45; “his longest rush was only nine yards.” (Andy, 47:41)
• Jahmyr Gibbs: 9/25, lowest yards in his career.
• Kamani Vidal: “Biggest whiff… very, very disappointing.” (Andy, 48:39)
• Zach Charbonnet, Jakore Croskey-Merritt, Travion Henderson: Discussed as frustrating backfields; Henderson not booming despite high snap share.

Wide Receiver Letdowns [53:36–59:41]

• Rome Odunze: “Full goose in a game that had 800,000 points.” (Andy, 53:48)
• DK Metcalf: Only 2 for 6 yards despite a smash spot.
• Brian Thomas Jr.: “He might be the most disappointing player on the season.” (Jason, 57:37)
• Chris Olave: Targeted only four times.
  • “If we get two games of this, I think you go to a full panic.” (Andy, 60:02)
• Other duds: Debo Samuel, Xavier Worthy, Jordan Addison, Darnell Mooney.

Tight End Issues [62:49–63:48]

• George Kittle, Tyler Warren, Kyle Pitts: Low volume; waiting on Purdy’s return for Kittle’s upside.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “He’s got no groins left. He cares. Nothing left to tear. And he doesn’t care. I mean, Rico got that dog in him for sure.”
  (Jason Moore on Rico Dowdle, 26:57)
• “Now, Shanahanigans, we haven’t believed anything.”
  (Jason Moore on 49ers injury updates, 14:52)
• “Got tackled at the one yard line five times, five times over the course of three different drives. And he scored zero touchdowns.”
  (Andy Holloway, about Travis Etienne, 31:15)
• “He’s the 49ers.”
  (Andy about Christian McCaffrey, 25:53)
• “Tyler sucks. I hate you very much. Throw the ball to Chris Olave.”
  (Jason Moore, 05:22)
• “If you need a roster spot, I would be fine to drop him… at the same time, if he was on waivers, I might scoop him up.”
  (Jason on Xavier Worthy, 58:29)

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Important Timestamps

• News & Notes / Injury Roundup: [06:22–15:57]
• Quarterback Studs: [16:32–23:31]
• Running Back Studs: [25:19–32:18]
• Wide Receiver/TE Studs: [32:18–40:53]
• Punday Segment (Player Name Jokes): [04:14–05:43]
• Duds - “Pooped in his Big Boy Pants:” [43:55–63:48]
• Mahomes meltdown vs. Allen’s breakout: [44:02]

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Overall Tone & Additional Insights

• Emotional & Relatable: The hosts vent, celebrate, and commiserate about the week’s outcomes—their victories and “bad beats,” the grief of injuries, and the swings fantasy brings.
• Comedic Flavor: Monday Punday and regular ribbing keep even stressful topics light (“He’s got no groins left” / “Tyler sucks”).
• Actionable Analysis: Injuries are translated into waiver recommendations, rest-of-season outlooks, and matchup-based advice.
• Foreshadowing: Andy highlights important upcoming schedules and crucial trade/waiver wire opportunities as playoff races tighten.

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Perfect For...

• Fantasy managers who want laughs and real-edge, actionable advice from hosts who live the week-to-week drama.
• Those who missed the week and want not just numbers, but context, emotion, and personality behind big storylines.
• Anyone who enjoys football and the wild ride of managing a fantasy team—especially at this pivotal time of year.

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Next up: Waiver Wire Tuesday with more in-depth pickups and playoff prep!

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the podcast Pistol Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Baby, don't be nasty.

[Jason Moore]

The way that you started, that seemed very serious because. To the podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

Because it is.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, this is. We're getting into the serious time of the year where the differentiators are made between winners and losers, playoffs and out champs and failures.

[Andy Holloway]

So welcome in. As you can tell, I'm the captain today. And he's out. Hair follicle emergency.

[Jason Moore]

I wish. I wish that was the reason.

[Andy Holloway]

But welcome in, everyone. Thank you so much for joining us. Me and my best friend, Jason Moore, we will handle the business today. Jake Ritz, cardboard bear, extraordinary. He's pretty happy.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, pulling out.

[Andy Holloway]

Pretty happy, Raz. I mean, I don't know that he's real happy with the whole game, but the ending.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he's not happy with the defense. No. That's for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

No. And you know who's not happy with the defense? Cincinnati Bengals.

[Jason Moore]

Who?

[Andy Holloway]

Brother. Did you see Chase Brown?

[Jason Moore]

No. No, I didn't. Did he. Was he pretty upset?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he was.

[Jason Moore]

Why?

[Andy Holloway]

Because all they needed was one stop. One stop.

[Jason Moore]

All they needed was to not give up more than 42 points.

[Andy Holloway]

It was. Man, that game was absolutely gnarly. Very, very fun for fantasy football. But welcome in, everyone. Before we get into the puns, want to remind you we are doing a giveaway. This is totally free. Footclangiveaway.com we're giving away a signed James Cook jersey. And all you got to do, go to footclangiveaway.com There's a couple of things you can do to help the show that take no time at all and you get some entries to win a free James Cook jersey.

[Jason Moore]

Who has been awesome. I mean, even against the Kansas City Chiefs, the running back seven on the week. The running back four on the year is. He's unstoppable.

[Andy Holloway]

So there was some good. I mean, there was some. There was some terrible again. Oh, man. I know.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Did you forget for a minute you had deleted it? Had the short term memory loss of late. Last night's disgusting.

[Andy Holloway]

It was. It was like our. Our household. I was watching the game with my. My boy and my wife and like it got just the way the cam one got me where you're just like it. Like.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

The whole weekend, then kind of felt deflated. But overall it was a great weekend for me.

[Jason Moore]

It got me. Visually. I usually miss it. And when he went down, I thought.

[Andy Holloway]

He was Jayden Daniels.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Jane Daniels. I thought he re. Aggravated that hamstring. And so I was watched. So then they showed the replay and I'm watching intently like to see where the. No, it's the arm.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's.

[Andy Holloway]

But we won't get into that. There was some good, there was some bad. And now we talk about it. Distinguished.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason.

[Jason Moore]

How about. Oh, starting here. This guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Brock Powers.

[Jason Moore]

Brock Wowzers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. But I'm gonna go with a. Whoa.

[Jason Moore]

Flacco Colston. Dublin got done.

[Andy Holloway]

That's Colston Dogland.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You dog. You wish. Caleb Thrilliams.

[Andy Holloway]

Vic. Tori Horton. We got a Vic. We got a Tory Horton.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, he went off. Speaking of winning. Dalton win.

[Andy Holloway]

Cade Drake Wand.

[Jason Moore]

Drake Wandon.

[Andy Holloway]

That was terrible.

[Jason Moore]

That's great. Drake Wandon. That's. That's all time.

[Andy Holloway]

That's bad. We got Kyle Cowabungai.

[Jason Moore]

Jackson Smith. Unguardable.

[Andy Holloway]

Or my dude Rico. No doubtle.

[Jason Moore]

And T.D. higgins.

[Andy Holloway]

Unfortunately. We had Romeo Goose egg. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Not good. Dk. Dukey Dookie.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodness gracious. Dk. How about Kamani Dandruff?

[Jason Moore]

No V down. Sassoon there. Jordan Satison.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Or just right to the point. Tyler sucks.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, he does. Tyler sucks. I hate you very much. Throw the ball to Chris Olave.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Moore]

Jonathan failure. Very disappointing for him. Chuba Snubbard, Alvin Cantmera.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. And Tucker because he's also in the button again to stop it seems so. Okay. Perfect.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You know, the injuries every week or most every week are bad. This is clearly one of the worst for fantasy. Like Po. Jaden Daniels and Tucker Kraft are league winning type of, you know, players. And so you lost a top five tight end and a top five Quarterback in the same week, some people had him on the same team that's probably feeling really bad. You could still win.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, we're going to help get you there. We're just doing, you know, the old Monday catharsis. We got to react to the studs and duds and we got some news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, if you missed it last week, it kind of, it was very unexpected. But Travis Hunter, superstar rookie, he was put on the. Is he, is he a superstar? Potential. Okay, how about that potential?

[Jason Moore]

I accept that a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Potential superstar. I mean, we just had the game.

[Jason Moore]

He had his breakout.

[Andy Holloway]

We had the game, we got the bye week. Then he gets hurt in practice, gets put right on the ir.

[Jason Moore]

It was a non contact knee injury, which is almost always a torn acl. They said the ACL attacked, but they did put him on ir. We don't know much here on the timeline. He obviously cannot play for four weeks, but the fact that he went on right away and it's a knee, he might not be back when the four weeks are up.

[Andy Holloway]

The trade deadline is coming up. It is tomorrow. There's always a lot of smoke during the NFL trade deadline. This is often a situation where the smoke doesn't lead to fire or lead you to the fire.

[Jason Moore]

It's not like baseball's trade deadline or basketball.

[Andy Holloway]

But sometimes, sometimes we get surprised. However, for the jets, they are not planning to trade running back Breeze hall unless they get an offer they can't refuse.

[Jason Moore]

Which they probably don't get.

[Andy Holloway]

No, they probably do not.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, if you're out there in the trade market for a running back, you're looking to acquire one. I think there are other guys you would probably target ahead of because if you trade for Breece, you're giving up obviously an offer they can't refuse. So you're giving up like a three, which that's expensive. Then you're going to have to for a rental.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, potential rental.

[Jason Moore]

You're only giving up the three if you're going to sign them to a long term deal. But if you were to go and get like Chuba Hubbard, he's a good running back, he'll help a team and he won't cost you much. Although he does have a decent sized contract in his own right.

[Andy Holloway]

Man, the Panthers running back situation is.

[Jason Moore]

So that'll be a fun one to talk about that.

[Andy Holloway]

It's fascinating to me. Also fascinating. Jason, I mentioned this briefly on Sunday Live that the Cardinals have come out and they said they're starting Jacoby Brissette. However, Kyler Murray is listed as questionable. And Kyler Murray is definitely not getting benched.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

But he might be active.

[Jason Moore]

He might. So he might just be on the bench.

[Andy Holloway]

He might be healthy enough to play.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not getting benched.

[Jason Moore]

He's not getting bench. Just sit over there. But he won't play on that seat on the. Maybe they'll bring him a chair. They bring a chair, you know, a little fold out. This is yours. We call it a throne.

[Andy Holloway]

You're getting thrown, you're not getting benched. You're just healthy enough to play and we don't want you to play football for us.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, we've seen this a couple of times where it's not just a benching where the clear cut starter comes back and he's kind of healthy enough to go. They would, they would prefer him not to play, but in an emergency situation he can be available. That might be what's happening here. I hope Kylie does play. It's just weird because Jacoby Brissette, who is the starter. I did it again, man. I did it a freaking another week in a row.

[Andy Holloway]

What did you do?

[Jason Moore]

I. My, my opponent goes nuclear friggin T. Higgins and Brock Bowers. This is a bad team who just went off on me and now we are both projected for like, you know about, you know, like certainly enough points to be in the. In the top few teams. And I am playing against Jacoby Brissette and he has a 22 point lead and I got the CD Dak stack.

[Andy Holloway]

I will.

[Jason Moore]

Right now we are projected within a point of each other.

[Andy Holloway]

I will going to review the league of records. People always want to know. Let's see. I am projected for the most points. Josh could beat me. Josh has the second highest projection. And there, then there's you, Jay. Yeah, that number three. And you might lose. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Again, I. So my last two weeks I have lost a combined two games by fewer than three points. And now it looks like it's going to happen again.

[Andy Holloway]

This is. It's insane.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, injury news, here we go. Tucker Kraft, he craft. He suffered a right knee injury. He did not come back. Honestly, when I saw it, I thought he just got, you know, like jammed in his knee and so it was, oh, he, you know, he's going to hobble off. We'll be all right. Nope. He went away. He did not come back. And now the initial fear is a torn acl, which usually when.

[Jason Moore]

It almost always comes True. Every now and then you get lucky and you escape. He's having an MRI today on his birthday.

[Andy Holloway]

Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

[Jason Moore]

Have an mri.

[Andy Holloway]

We appreciate you brother. And that. That stinks. Matthew golden left with a shoulder injury. Jaden Daniels last night of the commanders it was a dislocated left elbow. The X rays were negative. He's doing an MRI today to determine if surgery will be necessary.

[Jason Moore]

I don't understand. I mean I guess what that means is like it was the bones.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he didn't have broken bones.

[Jason Moore]

But it's really hard to watch an arm in that direction and not think of it as a completely bro. Like next X rays were negative. Like you go look again.

[Andy Holloway]

But they'll have to do the MRI to see if any like tendons or anything tore. I've seen optimism.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah there, there are some for as.

[Andy Holloway]

Terrible as it looked I've seen.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks for doctor saying that it's. It's not even a guarantee that it would be a season ender however, is insane. I think it will be a season ender simply because the, the commander season.

[Andy Holloway]

Looks to be has been ended.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean they are already. They're only a three win team right now. They have lost Terry McLaurin. They have definitely lost the next mini games for Jaden Daniels.

[Andy Holloway]

They also lost Luke McCaffrey to a broken collarbone last night.

[Jason Moore]

If you missed Debo still has his heel issue. He's playing through the.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they lost. Or Marshawn Lattimore on defense. They think he has a torn ACL. If you missed the news on Terry McLaurin, obviously you saw he wasn't playing last night. However, if you missed it, he's going to. We're expecting him to be held out through the week 12 by so man, just.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they're going to lose a couple more games here and then at that point you're not going to rush back your future of your franchise to win a couple more games when you're not even competing for the playoffs potentially at that point. So I do see this as a season ender which means big things for, you know, everyone else involved as well. Zach Ertz playing with Mariota has not been as good, you know, on and on.

[Andy Holloway]

Rams wide receiver Puka Nakua left in the second half yesterday with a rib slash chest injury. He returned to the sideline with his helmet. He did not go in the quote from McVeigh on the injury quote. I think he's going to be good. He got his ribs. He could have come back in the game. But we had.

[Jason Moore]

They were kind of.

[Andy Holloway]

Had command.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, kind of had command.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just trying to be nice, but that's positive.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Because when you hear Puka. Puka is down, you freak out and you go, how many weeks? Hopefully it's.

[Jason Moore]

And he just came back. It was like. And it was so nice. It's like, oh, yeah, I love having Puka.

[Andy Holloway]

He's very good back.

[Jason Moore]

And then he was.

[Andy Holloway]

Vikings running back Aaron Jones left the game with an AC joint sprain. Initial belief is it's minor and he could play next week. That's tbd. He was playing pretty well.

[Jason Moore]

Looked good.

[Andy Holloway]

Then we got some concussions. CJ Stroud took a nasty hit and then hit his head on the ground. Bears tight end Cole Comet back in, back out. Diami Brown for the Jags left with a concussion. Then Brian Thomas Jr injured his left ankle in the fourth quarter. Tried to return with it taped, but he sat out. Overtime. Probably a high ankle sprain.

[Jason Moore]

So you could miss some weeks. And all of a sudden, Parker Washington becomes, goodness gracious fantasy star.

[Andy Holloway]

Could be. It could be.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, he had a good game, you know, with Brian Thomas playing now, it's like he's the last man standing.

[Andy Holloway]

Samajp Ryan for the Bengals. He left with an ankle injury. They're going on by. But if he misses time, Chase Brown will be on a rocket ship of fantasy points. K's on booty for the Patriots. He left early with a hamstring injury. And then Kyle Shanahan talking about Brock Purdy's toe injury. Quote, it's something that probably won't go. Won't fully go away all year regardless of when he comes back.

[Jason Moore]

So he went on. What else did he say?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Purdy was not that close to playing this week.

[Jason Moore]

So Shanahan is letting us know Purdy was not that close to playing this week. Now, Shanahanigans, we haven't believed anything.

[Andy Holloway]

Right?

[Jason Moore]

Brock has been told where he's close to coming back every single week. Now all of a sudden we're saying he's not close. I don't believe you. If he plays this week, we just know. Do whatever. The opposite of whatever Shanahan says.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The fact that we are now at five missed games for Brock Purdy means that the 49ers didn't know what they were dealing with because you don't. You don't put your. You put him on IR like, you give him the time. You create the flexibility in your schedule.

[Jason Moore]

Seems like some things have. Have gotten worse along the way. And obviously he, he was injured. He came back in week four and that made it way, way, way worse. So I think they are saying we want him for the playoffs, right? NFL playoffs. So if we could give him an extra month on top of everything just to make sure he's okay when he comes back. It doesn't re aggravate it the better. And they're still winning games. I mean they, you know, they, it was closer. Christian shouldn't have been McCaffrey. But they, they won this week.

[Andy Holloway]

So yeah, it's a bummer that we don't have Purdy yet.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like I know Kittle's missing.

[Andy Holloway]

George Kittle is the player for sure where you're like will he get unlocked without Brock Purdy? Brock Purdy loves throwing to George Kittle, especially touchdowns. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. Let's talk about them studs.

[Jason Moore]

This week's fantasy stud muffins presented by Lowe's.

[Andy Holloway]

Caleb Williams. Goodness gracious. 280 and three five for 53 on the ground and two receptions including a receiving touchdown. I think they ran the Philly specials looked like, oh my goodness. And we'll just combo this in because it was the same game.

[Jason Moore]

My dude, Joe Flacco been very, very, very bullish.

[Andy Holloway]

Joe Flacco, Joe Flacco. It was, I knew when I was talking about him. It was are you willing to accept the risk of the, of the shoulder? If you did, you were rewarded with currently the number two fantasy quarterback on the week 31 of 47 for 470 yards and four touchdowns. That was 470 was Joe Flacco's career high in a single game. This game was awesome for what I.

[Jason Moore]

Like it was awesome for what everybody likes except for Bengals fans. I mean this was, I mean Bears.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't want to see your defense do that to Joe Flacco.

[Jason Moore]

Just back and forth, you know, it looked like the Bengals were going to destroy. Joe threw touchdowns early and often and just got off to this blazing start. Then the Bears battle back. Then they, then they, then they take a massive lead and you're like oh, the Bears just destroyed, just destroyed the Bengals. And then the Bengals we you he threw a touchdown late in that game and you were like oh, that is the stinkiest garbage. You were playing Flacco in our league of record and you're like oh delicious. How stinky that garbage time touchdown is. And then they came back and took the lead. So it wasn't garbage time at all.

[Andy Holloway]

They. Is Kyle on the mic? Do we have him here? Kyle, I don't know if you can help me. Confirms. I think they scored two touchdowns in like 59 seconds. It was absurd because they got the onside kick but that game was great. Bye week. Kyle's going to look real quick but it's a bye week for Flacco. Good. Rest up that shoulder. After throwing for 47 times with a sprained joint, Caleb Williams gets the Giants next week. Josh Allen. Ho hum.

[Jason Moore]

He good.

[Andy Holloway]

Another good game. He's 5 and 1 versus Mahomes in the regular season. He's going to want to fix that in the playoffs. Justin Herbert.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Justin Herbert. This game, this game was weird. Like this one. There was a couple games, as they do every week, there's a couple games where you just. This does not go anywhere near what it should on paper or what you expected.

[Jason Moore]

The.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, the Bengals. It was 49 seconds. I apologize for the Bengals, two touchdowns. Justin Herbert against Tennessee starts this game basically with a pick six. Then Tennessee has a. What was a punt return. Yeah, they scored by. I think it was a dk.

[Jason Moore]

They scored on defense, they scored on special teams and they basically didn't score on offense.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. And then that turned into a negative game script. Justin Herbert 252. He also had 57 rushing yards and a rushing touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he looked great. And all the receiving options. I mean it's what we expect. What we have been saying like with Quentin Johnson getting the touchdown, it's like you, you're just. You need to play all of the Chargers receivers and know sometimes it will go bad. It will be a goose every now and then. Now if. If you can't handle that on your roster, if your roster is not built that way, then look for a Parker Washington who won't goose but won't have the ability to put up 25 points in a game. These, these Chargers are guys I want in my lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

Jackson darts. The rookie continues. 191 and 2 through the air. 8 for 56 in a rushing touchdown. On the ground. He is averaging almost nine fantasy points per game by just on the ground. And he is the quarterback three in total fantasy points since becoming the starter in week four.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's averaging 22.3 fantasy points per game.

[Andy Holloway]

It's been awesome.

[Jason Moore]

And he has no weapons. You know, he's lost everyone. Darius Slayton I still think is A is a good play on a weekly basis right now. And Darts getting it done on the ground so much. He has four of his six games where he has rushed for more than 50 yards on the ground. That's a touchdown, you know. So it's more than a touchdown in four point leagues.

[Andy Holloway]

Mr. Dart, please stop getting hit so hard. Oh, I know there were, there were.

[Jason Moore]

A couple like do. You can't. You can't play this way for a long.

[Andy Holloway]

You got to pick and choose when you're going to take the hit. And he chooses the hit every time right now. Sam Darnold. This was, this was absurd. Against the Washington Commanders last night. He ends 330 and four passing touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

But it was just perfection.

[Andy Holloway]

He only. He had three incompletions. He did have one pick. But he played incredible near per. Near perfect football.

[Jason Moore]

He played such good football that he was only the quarterback five on the week because they just destroyed him and you know, they didn't need to throw the ball any more in the second. It was all in the. It was like by halftime I think he had four passing touchdowns and no incompletions. Every time they got the ball it was like, check this out. Let me throw the ball perfectly in stride for touchdowns to everyone. Tori Horton, jsn. Everyone got involved. It was, it was a real PrimeTime Show.

[Andy Holloway]

Matthew Stafford, 281 and 4. He leads the NFL with 21 passing touchdowns. He's one of five quarterbacks since the year 2000 with a touchdown to interception ratio of 21 to 2 or better through the first eight games. He's playing incredible. They. He was a, I won't say a difficult start, but it was like the kind of start where you're a 14 point favorite. Do you, do you actually get a ceiling game? And we did. And it was everyone like Stafford, four passing touchdowns. Kyron Williams, currently the running back, four on the week. It was like everybody, everybody was eating in the Rams game and still, still.

[Jason Moore]

Devonte Adams around the goal line.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

It's just like it's automatic. How do you not. I feel like you've got to put two guys at the line wherever Devonte.

[Andy Holloway]

Adams and then Kyron will just walk in. Geno Smith. Maybe this was just a Brock Bowers.

[Jason Moore]

Problem or Brock Bowers solution because Brock Bowers.

[Andy Holloway]

Holy crap.

[Jason Moore]

I can't believe I had to play against Brock Bowers.

[Andy Holloway]

But Gino ended 284 and four in the game against Jacksonville. He's playing Denver next week. Good luck. Lamar was awesome on Thursday and then Michael Penix had three touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

It was all right. They were clun.

[Andy Holloway]

There were some weird play calling choices by the Falcons this week.

[Jason Moore]

That was another weird games where it was like the Patriots just dominated the Falcons just completely, you know, looked like they were going to obliterate them. Controlled everything and then. And then lost the game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. Because of bad play calling, honestly. All right, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be back. We're going to talk some running backs.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

From Curtis, 50 Cent Jackson and the executive producers of Power comes the final season of force. Tommy Egan is back and he's going all in. Turf wars, betrayal and chaos erupt. Will he finally become the kingpin of Chicago? Don't miss the explosive season premiere on November 7th. Only on Starz and the Stars app number one on the week, Christian McCaffrey. I mean, 28 for 106 with touchdown. Five for 67 with a touchdown. Through the air.

[Jason Moore]

He's the 49ers.

[Andy Holloway]

He has the seventh most receiving yards in the NFL. He's a running back. This year has been unbelievable. Rico Dowdle.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Holy crap.

[Jason Moore]

The eunuch. We were watching, so if you. Yeah. People are like, what? The eunuch. So Dowdle in that game. Oh, man, he was dealing with a groin injury already and he had two different times in that game where it was. He tore it. He ripped it again.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

He was down on the field. He's holding his groin.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And just really hurting. And then it's like, wow, he's going to. He's going to miss some time. He's probably not back next week.

[Andy Holloway]

We. I was lamenting because he was already looking awesome.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And then he went. He was in clear pain jogs off and it's like, oh, my gosh. The Panthers finally do the right thing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Rico's the starter. We're done with this splitting with Chuba. We're just going to play the best guy.

[Jason Moore]

And then now he's gone.

[Andy Holloway]

Groin injury.

[Jason Moore]

Wait a minute.

[Andy Holloway]

Like two. Two plays later, he's back in there. He's awesome.

[Jason Moore]

That was number five. Rico is playing through this. And then it happened again. And he's like. So he's got no groins left. He cares nothing. Nothing left to tear. And he doesn't care. I mean, Rico got that dog in him for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, he does.

[Jason Moore]

He just doesn't have groin. That's why he's the unit.

[Andy Holloway]

But man, he was 20, 25 for 130 and two against the Green Bay Packers. Maybe. Rico Dowdle is very, very good. The Chicago Bears. Do, do, do, do.

[Jason Moore]

Manon guy. Boo.

[Andy Holloway]

Kyle Manon guy. Seventh round rookie running back gets the start. Gets it at the perfect time against the Cincinnati Bengals. Goes 26 for 176, three receptions for 22 yards. Did everything but score. What a game. And Kyle has a Note here. Here's seventh round rookie running backs with 30 or more touches in a game since 1987. We had one in 1989 by the name of Marion Butts, who played for at the time, the San Diego Chargers. 1990. Johnny Johnson for the Phoenix Cardinals. That's also an incredible. What these names.

[Jason Moore]

Johnny Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

Johnny Johnson and Kyle Monongai. That's. Dude, those are some names right there. But there will be discussed. I don't think I'm not on the side of that nun guy just stole DeAndre Swift. Job has been playing awesome.

[Jason Moore]

This is a team that I think wants to institute with what we saw in Detroit where you've got Gibbs and Monty and it looks like they've got like a Gibbs light and a Monty light.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, to hit on Monty light in the seventh round.

[Jason Moore]

But also, do not get ahead of ourselves because this was the Bengals defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

And they're. They're awful. I mean, they are.

[Andy Holloway]

They are very bad. Yeah, they are.

[Jason Moore]

Diaper.

[Andy Holloway]

They made just feels look good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Just a couple of weeks ago.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The. The man, the Bengals defenses is just so fun.

[Andy Holloway]

Josh Jacobs, he scores. He scores pretty much every Week, Kyren Williams, the fears of Blake. It was weird. It was a lot of Blake Corum.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Corum had it. I don't know. I feel like he had a game.

[Andy Holloway]

But Kyren was 25 for 114 and a score. He did not have a reception, but he continued to get it done.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he was. Blake Corum got 13 carries for 58 yards. Four and a half a clip. That's. He looked good. He had some good tackle break. Everybody for the Rams looked good. Puka was fine. Devonte Adams was fine. Stafford was great.

[Andy Holloway]

Kyron, Ashton Genty, he came through with a Good week. The 13 for 42. That's what I expected. On the ground. I was a little nervous about genty. But then five receptions for 47 yards and a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

91% of the snaps this season high.

[Andy Holloway]

So while Jacksonville was able to shut him down on the ground, they got beat through the air. Jalen Warren touchdowned. His way to being a top fantasy option. Chase Brown, it still continues to work for him while Joe Flacco was there because 14 targets.

[Jason Moore]

Come on. 14 targets. 14 targets for a running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Because they know what they're. Because it's 11 for 37 on the ground, man, like it wasn't going. And Joe, they're running through the air.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Well, the thing is, is Joe's got the bum shoulder. He can't move in the pocket very much. Not quickly enough. And they've got a bad offensive line. So it's snap the ball, get it out. Snap the ball, get it. That. The easiest way to protect your quarterback is to throw to the running back, not have the running back sit there and try to pass protect.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. RJ Harvey, he scored through the air again. It was five targets for 51 yards and a score.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, this was utilization we talked about. Like this is a trap. Last week's breakout was a trap because he didn't play that many snaps, didn't get that involved. He just, he was playing against the Dallas Cowboys defense. Another one of those, be careful. And then he ended up with a good, like a really good game simply because he caught that touchdown. But he, you know, he had two carries. He had two carries in the game. This was not. Oh, he took over. He's still playing the vast minority of snaps.

[Andy Holloway]

Travis ETN, Jason, your start of the week, 22 for 84 on the ground, 5 for 30.

[Jason Moore]

So much.

[Andy Holloway]

Per Ian Harditz, friend of the show, Travis Etn got tackled at the one yard line five times, five times over the course of three different drives. And he scored zero touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

He could have had three Russian touchdowns. And it wasn't like he was playing.

[Andy Holloway]

Sheesh.

[Jason Moore]

Bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

He was playing really, really good. He got him down to the one yard line several times.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And then they're like, we got to get the toot man in.

[Jason Moore]

What's funny is when the toot man got in, I allow it in my heart. Because ETN got two carries ahead of him on the goal line. It didn't work.

[Andy Holloway]

Gotcha.

[Jason Moore]

And then etn. But what was a shame to me was when ETN was given the ball, it was like jumbo, like, stack the box and then try to run.

[Andy Holloway]

We're high, T. We're going to be men.

[Jason Moore]

Let's spread it out. Get Tootin back there. Still handed up, straight up the middle. But it's like, oh, look how much easier it was for him.

[Andy Holloway]

I prefer that. I mean, there's, there's a couple running backs where if you want to go heavy, Jumbo, we're stronger men than you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. There's certain O lines.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. That's fine for some of them. For the vast majority, though, spread it out, get players out of the box and then run for a yard. It seems to work a lot better. Wide receivers. Drake London, he was force fed. He got three receiving touchdowns and 118 yards. T. Higgins, nine targets, seven for 121 and two.

[Jason Moore]

It's really funny when we go through these studs like Drake London, amazing game. I had him. He was great. T. Higgins, terrible game. I played against him and he was great. The emotional like, I was like, man, so upset that he had that monster game.

[Andy Holloway]

One he also one of his touchdowns. I mean, it's a, it'll be a highlight for the year. It was a great, you know, fully outstretched arms, manages to tap the ball to himself. It was a great touchdown. Jamar chase still had 6 for 111.

[Jason Moore]

But T. Higgins was almost like, chase needs to be in the pooped in your pants segment. With 111 yards. Like you're really, really disappointed that he only had 6 for 111.

[Andy Holloway]

Devonte Adams and Puka Nakua were both excellent for fantasy Adams. Another two touchdowns. Puka did score.

[Jason Moore]

Hey. Got a receiving touchdown, which is.

[Andy Holloway]

That's wild. That's rare when, when Puka gets those, you know you're going to have a great week. Tori Horton, rookie for the Seattle Seahawks. He was one of our official dynasty nasty boys of the summer. 4 for 48 and 2. He had the opportunity because Cooper cup was out and we'll see.

[Jason Moore]

Tori Horton is.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll see if you can put the genie back in the lamp.

[Jason Moore]

He's made a lot of plays this year. Not. Not all of them show up on your normal box score because they've been in special teams. His return game, he's got touchdowns there, but even, you know, I mean, that is his fifth touchdown on the season. We're halfway through the year. In his rookie season, he has certainly shown that he's like, he belongs. Yes, exactly. He belongs here. And so going forward, you know, maybe from a dynasty perspective, but maybe even a redraft, you know, normal league going forward. If. As Cooper cup gets older every day, Torrey Horton, if he gets the opportunity, I think you'll make the most of it.

[Andy Holloway]

JSN continues his reign of terror upon the NFL. 8 for 129. Pop Douglas. He was the Patriots wide receiver of choice this week.

[Jason Moore]

Man, that Booty injury was Booty because I think he was started in the vast majority of leagues. I started him in two different leagues. He had been really, really involved. And obviously Drake May went out, had a very good game, had a touchdown to. Pop Douglas had a touchdown to. And you just never know how it would have gone if booty got to play.

[Andy Holloway]

D.J. moore comes through with one of the weirder games. Four for 72 through the air, one for 17 and a touchdown on the ground. And then he threw a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. I mean, he probably did that on a lot of benches out there. Rasheed Rice, 4 for 80. He had a rushing touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

He's just seemed like another one of those weirdly disappointing games.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Like, he's. He was very good, but it was like. Yeah, I wanted more.

[Andy Holloway]

Of course, the Colts game, that was one of the upside downs. The Pittsburgh Steelers defense decided they were good again.

[Jason Moore]

They are Jekyll and Hyde, man. They've had a couple of really outstanding defensive performances. And then the others are like, target this team.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So that game went completely upside down.

[Jason Moore]

It was all turnovers.

[Andy Holloway]

I expected the Colts to be up, and then we would get the. We'd get some points then from the Steelers as they try to catch up. Jonathan Taylor, it was the opposite.

[Jason Moore]

Jonathan Taylor having a monster game. Instead, it was Daniel Jones having to throw the ball. What did they. I think they turned the ball over five times.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Daniel Jones had a poor NFL game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's see.

[Jason Moore]

For fantasy, he was.

[Andy Holloway]

He's still. He's still the QB12.

[Jason Moore]

And fantasy, he was okay.

[Andy Holloway]

He had to throw the ball 50 times.

[Jason Moore]

Right. You don't Usually have as many interceptions as he had and then end of the day without a disastrous score. But he was all right. Michael Pittman Jr. My start of the week this week was awesome. Nine for 115 on 12 targets. Alec Pierce, 115 yards. I mean they had to throw it a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

Alec Pierce, I mean we've. He's been coming up a lot on this show, but it's just. Let's. I think Alec Pierce needs more respect than we actually give him. Amon Ross, St. Brown. Great game. Jameson Williams, 4 for 66. Touchdown alive. Hey, hey. After the hey, hey, squeaky wheel, you know the narrative that the coach was talking about it at the tight end position. Welcome back. Brock Bowers, 12 from 127 and three.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the three was three darts was too much for me. It was funny because. So Brock was my start of the week and the first touchdown, I was like, yes, that's awesome. He was. He was good now. No more. And then he was just getting started. Goodness gracious. Was he good? I mean, 12 of 13 targets received 127 yards. He was the exact guy we saw week one when he was healthy. Who was who we saw rookie year, who is probably the tight end one rest of season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep, he looked very healthy and ready to go.

[Jason Moore]

And your start of the week, Colston Loveland.

[Andy Holloway]

Colston Loveland had himself a very good game. And then the final target turned into Dogston Dog Land.

[Jason Moore]

I will say this. Huge applause. Huge applause. He tried to downplay what happened because he did. He broke his first tackle and it.

[Andy Holloway]

Was broke two on a walk off. Gigantic.

[Jason Moore]

It was awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

It was awesome as a dog.

[Jason Moore]

I mean those tackles were. They were pretty.

[Andy Holloway]

What?

[Jason Moore]

No wrap up?

[Andy Holloway]

Just trying to. Yeah, but that's the whole point if you, if you are Mesa Taylor. Mesa Taylor explodes into pieces after getting hit on like that.

[Jason Moore]

All right, look, I don't want to denigrate an awesome game. He looked great. I mean we talked about this when we talked about him in the start of the week segment. It was like he is a very good play. This week the Bengals were the team to target for tight ends.

[Andy Holloway]

They have allowed 12 touchdowns to the tight end position.

[Jason Moore]

Crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

No other team has allowed more than six.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So it is very awesome to see and you are hopeful that this is the beginning of the new norm for him being very involved. It's tough. Like I probably won't start him next week. Depending. I mean, depending on Cole Comet.

[Andy Holloway]

Cole Comet is out. Then he would be.

[Jason Moore]

Cole Comet left this game with a concussion and so that was helpful to him. The Bengals were helpful to him both on offense and on defense because they kept having to throw the ball even, you know, last second walk up. It was an exciting game, but I'm optimistic. But I'm not going to flip the switch that it's, it's an every week start.

[Andy Holloway]

Dalton Kincaid, the post hype sleeper run.

[Jason Moore]

He seems like he should be in every week start.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I, you know, I keep pushing back and being like the dude's playing half the time he's not out there running a full allotment of routes and yet he keeps getting it done. You would have two weeks that you have started him that you'd be bummed, which. And the other ones, you're very, very happy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And at that position, I mean, you're, you're hoping for 50% of your games, you're happy with a tight end. This is, he's, he is the number one best receiver for Josh Allen. And I think that's pretty much all you've got to know.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep, I think that is true. Sam Laporta, 6 for 97 and an absolute dog of a dog touchdown. If you did not see it, it was Sam Laporta going.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you can't tackle me is what he said.

[Andy Holloway]

Huge breakaway run, obviously. Look, he's big tight end. He's not faster than everyone. So he does get caught near the goal line. I think it was three defenders start trying to bring him down, but he keeps fighting.

[Jason Moore]

He smelled the end zone like, like a dog. He smelled that food and was like he. Extra juice flowed through his veins.

[Andy Holloway]

And he fought off the tackles long enough for the, for the other players on his team to catch up and push him in. It was, it was a great touchdown. It was very fun. Mark Andrews caught two passes on Thursday night.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, baby.

[Andy Holloway]

Mark Andrews had two touchdowns on Thursday night. Dalton Schultz 6 for 77. He got it done. The slowest man alive, but he got it done. Travis Kelsey was. Oh, man. Travis Kelsey's in the stud section.

[Jason Moore]

He shouldn't be.

[Andy Holloway]

Sheesh.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you know, some weeks like he's the tight end eight right now. So you can't be too disappointed of the players that most people played. You're okay. You might outscored your opponent, but 4 for 66 is just mid.

[Andy Holloway]

And Juwan Johnson, he caught a touchdown from Tyler. Shucks, Chuck, man, I got Tyler sucks in my head.

[Jason Moore]

I need Shahid.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm sorry, Tyler. You need what? Oh, Shaheed.

[Jason Moore]

I need him traded because Olave had his season low.

[Andy Holloway]

We will be talking about him. Is he in the duds? He's got to be in the duds.

[Jason Moore]

I guess he is.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Pooped in his big boy pants.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, well, well. Patrick Mahomes.

[Jason Moore]

The mighty have fallen for a week. This is an interesting stat. Josh Allen recorded his highest completion percentage of his career in the same game that Patrick Mahomes recorded the lowest completion percentage of his career, 88% to 44%. Literally. He doubled up Patrick Mahomes. Buffalo got the win and they just outplayed the Chiefs.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan love Jason. It didn't work.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's what I get.

[Andy Holloway]

You didn't see the mighty Carolina Panthers.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, dude.

[Andy Holloway]

The Carolina Panthers showing up to hold Jordan Love to 26 for 273.

[Jason Moore]

You know, it's funny, we. I don't want to overstate or understate what we're seeing from Carolina, but we need to at least question our priors and see them as maybe a good team. Panthers. The Panthers. I mean if you look when Bryce Young has started, they've won their last four games. One of them was against Dallas, this one against Green Bay in Lambeau. Now that they've got a running game that is.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to say what are the.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

What's the core linen co Dowdle being the dude.

[Jason Moore]

I mean it makes, it makes sense. It's going to keep your defense off the field. It's going to open up the passing game. So this is, you know, coming up the next two games, New Orleans and Atlanta, two very winnable games. You could have a team that looks like they're playoff bound here. So give them, give them credit.

[Andy Holloway]

Rico Dowdle, off of his thousand yard season with the Dallas Cowboys was forced into signing a one year backup deal for the Carolina Panthers where he was.

[Jason Moore]

Forced to become the starter because he was Rico, no doubt.

[Andy Holloway]

Daniel Jones, it's a, I mean it's, you got to talk about it because he had a, he had a really bad game. He still sort of came through for fantasy football but you know, it was horrific. Weeks 1 through 8, 3 turnovers. That's what Daniel Jones has caused or allowed, I should say week nine, three turnovers.

[Jason Moore]

You know what's crazy about Daniel Jones? He's been so good this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Was it only. I thought it was, I thought it.

[Jason Moore]

Was more, I thought it was four. He lost a fumble.

[Andy Holloway]

He lost a fumble.

[Jason Moore]

So maybe it was just four turnovers.

[Andy Holloway]

He had three interceptions in him and I mean he's credited for three fumbles. I don't remember how many he fully lost. At least one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So the sad thing with Daniel Jones so far this year and it's been good for all the receivers, it's been good for the offense. So I'm not, I'm not too upset about it. But it's worth noting he's not running the ball like he's on pace for over the entire season. He would be on a 17 game pace of 170 rushing yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

I mean Daniel Jones is a, has always Been a true dual threat up. You know, he's running for 500 yards. You know, you see what like Drake May and Bo Nix have been doing with their legs. That's. That's what we've always historically seen Daniel Jones do. Maybe now that he's got an offensive line that can protect him and he can actually be more of a pocket passer or he's just older.

[Andy Holloway]

The running back position. The Colts failed, so Jonathan Taylor failed 14 carries for 45 yards. This was a big time bummer. His longest rush was only nine yards. He does get to take on the Atlanta Falcons next week. We will see Alvin Camara. Sheesh. From Nick Underhill. The Saints had a time of possession of 16 minutes and seven seconds. That was the 13th lowest in NFL history. It was not the debut that the Saints were hoping for for their second round. Rookie quarterback Jameer Gibbs, 9 for 25. Only three catches for three.

[Jason Moore]

That was really disappointing.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the fewest yards from scrimmage in a game in his career.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, when I, when I looked after the game, you know, because I was watching it live, obviously David Montgomery was on my bench. He gets a touchdown, I was like, okay, whatever. And then when I looked after the game, I was like, I did not realize how bad Jameer Gibbs was. He was. That was really disappointing. 28 total total yards.

[Andy Holloway]

And speaking of disappointments, Kamani Vidal against the Tennessee Titans after what he had been doing, 12 for 31 target, no receptions. This one was my biggest whiff, my biggest disappointment of the week. I thought Vidal was going to smash in this situation against the Tennessee Titans, but their defense showed up. They rallied a bit there. I mean they charges still one, but very, very disappointing and bummer of a game there for money. Vidal Sassoon and it really dandruff or whatever.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it was. It was disappointing too because I felt like I don't have the data, the snap percentages in front of me. Kyle, maybe you can look it up. But they were. I felt like they were getting other guys involved. Whereas the previous week when Vidal went.

[Andy Holloway]

Off, I'm guessing it's because Vidal was not being effective.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, possibly.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's see who else we got. The. The Texans guys. They're on here as well. Yeah, both Woody marks, Nick Chubb, J.K. dobbins was a bummer. We were kind of worried about him against Houston, but it was even worse than we thought it was going to be. 15 for 61.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The Texans defense, they are one of the best in the league. And you have to change expectations when going into that matchup. They. The Broncos sneaked out a last second victory there. But it was just like we talked about. We said on that matchup. This is a game where the winner of the game walking away with a W might not have 20 points scored. And the game went down 18 to 15.

[Andy Holloway]

So Kyle pulled it up. Vidal was 72% of the snaps.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, wow. He was still on the field. Jarrett Patterson, I know, was like he had to play a third of the snaps. But maybe it was just Vidal sucking Zach Charbonnet.

[Andy Holloway]

8 for 25, 1 for 21. Walker did play way more snaps this week over Zach Charbonnet. They only gave him the ball 11 times on the ground. 11 for 42.

[Jason Moore]

This was awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

Targets for 19 yards.

[Jason Moore]

A weird game.

[Andy Holloway]

Jakore Crosky merits. Oh, boy.

[Jason Moore]

I don't. I don't know how you can start him. Yeah, I mean, especially going forward now with your implied team totals are going to be much lower with Mario to there. This is a player who has fully punked everybody.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Week one coming out, being the RB11 and then having, you know, the trade and it's like, this is his team. He has juice. He's the reason we made the trade. And the Echler injury, I mean, everything opportunity wise has lined up for him to be there. He hasn't missed a game. He's played, you know, as essentially a starter the whole season. Maybe, maybe Chris Rodriguez gets the first touch, but we've seen bigger games from McNichols and Bill has. I mean, he's on pace for over 200 opportunities and he's scoring eight fantasy points a game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the. He's not in here, but I'm going to bring his name up because I'm sure people just want to hear the conversation. Travion Henderson, 14. He had 20 opportunities. I said I want to see a game with 15 opportunities. 14 for 55.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, all right. He's. I mean, it's on Brand.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's on brand. So it's 3.94 for 32 through the air. So, I mean, in terms of yardage, he was what, 87 yards from scrimmage, no touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the truth. We're not excited, but it was totally acceptable. Like ten and a half fantasy points is our barometer for running back and a half PPR to consider a good game. He was 10.7 fantasy points, so it wasn't special, but it was fine. He didn't hurt you if you started.

[Andy Holloway]

Him he played 75% of the snaps. Terrell Jennings played 25% of the snaps. Unfortunately for us who played Hendo, it was. Jennings was up and he had two good runs including one turning into. I mean I'm not saying he only had two good plays. I just like he had a good run to set them up and then he took it in. I think it was like a 10 yard run or so for, for a touchdown, if I remember right.

[Jason Moore]

No, the touchdown was inside the five. It was more of a goal line carry. That was what was disappointing to me is they only have. You're right.

[Andy Holloway]

It was only a three year.

[Jason Moore]

They only had one rush attempt inside the five and it happened to go to Jennings. And so that's really disappointing. If, if, if you know if Trayvon Henderson is getting 75% of the snaps but he's not getting the goal line work in this world that's disappointing. I don't think it is prescriptive yet to know that the one carry that they had inside the five just happened. Like he could have just been the running back on the field on that drive. So.

[Andy Holloway]

So in terms of fantasy, it's unfortunate because neither side gets to boom Jean Kalaka.

[Jason Moore]

Right? Yeah. You want. The Henderson trailers are like no one can. No one can dunk here.

[Andy Holloway]

It was like. It was a good game. He didn't get the. I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

He got the snaps. So he got ten and a half fantasy points.

[Andy Holloway]

So Vrabel got us again.

[Jason Moore]

Special.

[Andy Holloway]

He got us again. Because I. I wanted nothing more than to just be a monster game and come in here, rip the shirt off, bang the chest, be like I told you or just get it over with.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Like let me know that Travion will not be the guy. But he was the guy. Yeah, it was weird. You know who was not the guy? Jason at the wide receiver position. Position Rome Odunze.

[Jason Moore]

So weird. Full goose in a game that had 800,000.

[Andy Holloway]

His quarterback is the QB one on the week.

[Jason Moore]

I do. He had a. He had an end zone target that was just slightly behind him. So a little disappointing. I'm not. So this is three out of the last four weeks where he's been disappointing where he has not scored five fantasy points in three of the last four weeks. Four weeks ago before that was their bye week. So coming out of the by he has been extremely disappointing. I am fully committed to Roma Dunes A still being the primary wide receiver on this team.

[Andy Holloway]

I, you know, not worried about Dogston Doglands coming in.

[Jason Moore]

I'm certainly not worried about dogs and dogland being the reason. There's been a couple miscues, a couple missed touchdowns that were, that were there for Odunes. A, he's playing 95 plus percent of the snaps. I mean he is being utilized as the one we talk about. When you're in small stretches of games, you feel like it is forever. But at the end of the season, in the off season, when we talk about these players and you look back at their game logs of great players, of A.J. brown, of whoever. Unless you're like the wide receiver one, like Jamar Chase last year, everyone has a bunch of complete disaster games at the wide receiver position.

[Andy Holloway]

Sucks to be a zero, though.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean it does, it does. But especially in that game. 40 to 7, 47 to 42 and a full goose. DK Metcalf, I would personally, you know, I would offer a cheap, crappy trade offer. Odunze.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I still want Rome on the team. DK Metcalf, this was the spot and then the game turned upside down and DK Metcalf was a non factor. He caught two passes. Was that really, what? Two passes for six yards? Yeah, goodness gracious. He had two targets inside the five and he ends up with two for six. Disgusting. Just gusting. Yes, I do, because I've never been a DK Metcalf guy.

[Jason Moore]

And then you drafted him.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, like I understood the process and I understand that I'm wrong on players. It happens. And Aaron Rodgers, number one wide receiver, always gets peppered with targets. Not DK Metcalf, not the hundred plus million dollars or whatever they gave him and the draft picks they gave up. And there's. It's weird, man. It's what I'm saying, it's weird.

[Jason Moore]

He's still been pretty good.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been good on the season. I know, but you get him in a smash spot right here and he gives you six yards. It's disgusting. The Chargers, lad McConkey, Keenan Allen, they were the ones who took the turn to have the bad week.

[Jason Moore]

Gadsden and Cuge had good weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Brian Thomas Jr. Didn't have to worry about potential superstar Travis Hunter to take targets away from him.

[Jason Moore]

This one is disgusting, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Three, four. Oh, hey look.

[Jason Moore]

Oh look, another 55. This is disgusting. This is 59 points scored in the game between the Raiders and the Jags. Beautiful. You love that. This is game script was great. The Raiders are not a shut down defense. You lost Travis Hunter. Come on. Brian Thomas Jr. And he has three catches. It's like he has been inside the top 24. I'm not saying like a top five. The top 24 wide receivers on a week once this season. We are way too far into the season to have that be true. And now he's injured. Shoulder injury which obviously was part of this. He might be the most disappointing player on the season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think he's got to be the biggest bust of the year so far. I going off the top of my head, maybe there's another one. But Parker Washington, that's who you wanted a for 90.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

We brought up just how gross the replacement name is going to be. Someone has to go fill in for Travis Hunter and Liam Cohen. Just I don't know if it's Cohen, I don't know if it's Trevor Lawrence. But Parker Washington was already involved. 27% target share for him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean 10 targets the last game before the bye week and then nine targets this past week. While yeah it was very disappointing showing.

[Andy Holloway]

From Brian BTJ Xavier Worthy of the Kansas City Chiefs. He did have seven targets, three for 23. He's going on to the bye week. I I, I'm done. I don't know where you are with Worthy.

[Jason Moore]

I would be completely willing if you need a roster spot, I would be fine to drop him to waivers. At the same time if he was on waivers I might scoop him up. But this is, this is Rushy Rice's team primarily. Kelsey hasn't gone away with Rice back so it will be difficult to have a lot of consistency there for Worthy. And going into a bi week where you're going to have to hold him for two weeks to hopefully get something that you probably won't get. I'm fine. Moving on.

[Andy Holloway]

Debo Samuel had a down game. Chris Olava here's the conversation. This is a tweet from good friend of the show, JJ Zachary and Tyler Schuck's first start, Rashid Shahid saw nine targets for a season high 37.5% target share. Chris Olave saw four targets for a season low of 16.7% target share. We the discussion on the Saints was completely around. We don't know what Tyler Schuck will do. Will he come in and Derek Carr this and throw the ball at Camara 10 times? Will he feed Chris Olave, their number one assumed number one wide receiver over and over and over and it turned out it was this week at least was Rasheed Shahid.

[Jason Moore]

So it was, it was definitely Shahida ahead of Olave. That could be the new normal. I heard Shahido that could be the new normal.

[Andy Holloway]

That could also be Shahidos.

[Jason Moore]

Could also just be. That's how this game worked. Like I said earlier, wide receivers are going to have inconsistency. We need more data and it could flip. But two games.

[Andy Holloway]

If we got two games of this, I think you'd go to a full panic.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the Rams in this game, they completely dominated every aspect. We just talked about how great all of the Rams were. They had the ball so much. My big concern is, like, there were 24 total passes thrown. Like, that's not a good enough number. Especially, you know, for someone who, like, wasn't. Wasn't Spencer Rattler throwing the ball a ton. Spencer Rattler looking games of 46 attempts. 34, 39, 31, 32. Like, we've got to have more attempts and we. One of the things I love about this team, they had to get more.

[Andy Holloway]

Production with the attempts to keep the.

[Jason Moore]

Ball true, the speed at which Kellen Moore plays. But I also think part of this was just the Rams and not the Rams on defense, the Rams on offense. Just controlling the game so easily really did not give a lot of opportunity for anyone. Shaheed was mostly garbage time.

[Andy Holloway]

Tedro McMillan back down to a stinker after the 7 for 99 last week, 4 for 46. This weak, low scoring game, the identity of the team is Rico Dowdle. So targets that I think they'll be harder to come by. Let's see what's the schedule here coming up. So we got the Saints, the Falcons and San Francisco. That's what's on tap here for the Carolina Panthers. Jordan Addison was very disappointing. He had a bomb into the corner, the front corner of the end zone. I thought it was a Great Ball by JJ McCarthy and it seemed like Addison dropped it. So there was a potential for that. J.J. mcCarthy. We didn't get to talk about it.

[Jason Moore]

Because it wasn't like a fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

It wasn't a fantasy stud game.

[Jason Moore]

But he was great.

[Andy Holloway]

He. I believe he had three touchdowns. He had like. He had no yards, though. So let me pull up his exact stat line. We got 14 of 25, so we only completed 56% of his passes, 143 yards, two passing touchdowns and a rushing and a rushing touchdown. The. He looked better. The completion percentage on paper definitely says it was. It was not, but he just. He looked more composed. Hopefully better days are ahead for J.J. mcCarthy, the Vikings, for fantasy purposes, because Baltimore, Chicago, Green Bay, Seattle, Washington, Dallas. I mean, like, there is a stretch of games coming up for the Vikings that they should be able to take advantage of Darnell. Mooney continues to.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I love this. Oh, I love to see this.

[Andy Holloway]

Because of Drake London.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, because Pinnocks was there and Drake London was there. And so I don't want to see some kind of 50, 50 split. I want to see you target Drake London over and over because he's way better. And only two targets for Mooney. That's what I want, George. Also, you won the game, George Kittle.

[Andy Holloway]

Only four targets we talked about it might take until Brock Purdy comes back. When will that be? Who knows?

[Jason Moore]

It might, but I don't look at it as in like I think he takes a big leap up when Brock comes back. But I don't look at this as if with Mac Jones, Kittle can't be good. Last week with Mac Jones. He's very good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, 43 and a touchdown was in.

[Jason Moore]

Like the tight end six or something. Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But 43 yards is if you're the.

[Jason Moore]

Sixth best tight end on a week. Yeah, I'm just saying you could do that. Last week with Mac Jones, Tyler Warren.

[Andy Holloway]

Was disappointing seven targets, five for 26. And then Kyle Pittsburgh, who seemed like he was very involved. So it's kind of surprising to see him here. But he was only 4 for 38. That was studs and duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's nose. Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sunday with Lowe's official partner of the NFL tomorrow. Waiver wire. It's going to be a big one. Jason has closed his eyes.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just thinking about the CD deck stack tonight.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you are? I need you use the doing the secret.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, speak it into existence. I need that CD touchdown. I need the stack. I need CD Lamb. Let's you know what. Two touchdowns. I want CD Lamb. I want two touchdowns from CD Lamb tonight.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right. I don't know if you'll get it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I probably won't.

[Andy Holloway]

Reminder Footclang Giveaway.com Sign James Cook Jersey giving it away for completely free. All you got to do is a couple things to help out the show that is going to do it. Ladies and gentlemen, if you need something tonight, I hope you get it. Unless you're Jason. I hope you lose.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, thanks, buddy.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll see you tomorrow, everyone. Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

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