Week 9 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, MUSCLE Wilson!

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Week 9 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, MUSCLE Wilson!

Release Date: November 4, 2019

In this engaging episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright delve into the highs and lows of Week 9 in the fantasy football landscape. From standout performances to disappointing outings, injury updates, and strategic advice for the upcoming playoff push, this episode is a treasure trove for fantasy enthusiasts. Below is a detailed breakdown of the key segments discussed.

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1. Monday Punday (03:10)

The episode kicks off with the Monday Punday, a segment filled with playful puns and humorous takes on various players' names. The trio shares creative wordplay, adding a lighthearted touch to the analysis:

• Andy Holloway jokes, “Christian McCarry. Me fantasy MVP for sure.” (03:17)
• Mike Wright contributes with, “Gardner Min Poo with his wide receiver, D.J. shart.” (03:39)
• The segment highlights the psychological aspect of fantasy football, noting that fans often dwell on negative performances: “80% of them are about what went wrong.” (04:51)

2. Weekly Rewind (06:00)

In the Weekly Rewind, the hosts recap significant events and performances from the past week:

• Josh Gordon’s acquisition by the Seattle Seahawks is discussed, analyzing his fit with Russell Wilson’s dynamic offense: “He has the opportunity to have splash games, but it will come on the efficiency of Russell Wilson.” (06:59)
• The re-injury of Adam Thielen, who aggravated his hamstring, is lamented as a major setback for fantasy owners: “This is terrible news for Adam Thielen owners.” (09:49)
• DeSean Jackson’s ongoing injury woes are highlighted, emphasizing the struggle fantasy managers face: “I’d rather have my handcuffs than DeSean Jackson.” (11:00)
• Updates on Alshon Jeffrey’s ankle tweak and Carson Wentz's knee injury provide a comprehensive injury overview.

3. Stud Muffins (15:28)

Stud Muffins showcases the top-performing players of Week 9, providing insights into their exceptional performances:

• Russell Wilson dominates with five passing touchdowns, throwing for 378 yards (15:32). Mike Wright praises his versatility: “Russell Wilson is unstoppable.” (15:59)
• Matthew Stafford impresses with 406 yards and three touchdowns, positioning himself for a potential 5,000-yard season: “He is on pace for 5,000 yards and he is second in the NFL with touchdown passes.” (17:05)
• Lamar Jackson shines with a dual-threat performance, combining 163 passing yards and two rushing touchdowns: “Two rushing touchdowns, one passing touchdown—that's quarterback trash for fantasy.” (18:39)
• Emmanuel Sanders and Noah Fant deliver breakout performances, making them valuable flex options moving forward: “Emmanuel Sanders is certainly a flex-type guy right now.” (36:37)

4. Stinkers of the Week (39:21)

Conversely, the Stinkers of the Week segment addresses the underperformers who let fantasy teams down:

• Gardner Minshew is dubbed a major disappointment with 309 passing yards, two interceptions, and no touchdowns: “Gardner had to fertilize his soil.” (39:51)
• Aaron Jones struggles with limited opportunities, ending the game with only eight carries and one catch: “Devonte Adams was the target machine this week.” (43:32)
• Keenan Allen experiences a slump, leading to concerns about his consistency: “There were quite a few disappointing wide receiver performances this week.” (45:31)

5. Injury Updates

Injury news remains a critical component, impacting player availability and fantasy strategies:

• Adam Thielen aggravates his hamstring, likely sidelining him for additional weeks: “This sucked.” (09:49)
• DeSean Jackson continues to grapple with an abdominal injury, raising questions about his future role: “I’d rather have my handcuffs than DeSean Jackson.” (10:21)
• Brandon Cooks has a positive visit with a concussion specialist, providing some relief: “Better than a negative visit.” (13:45)
• Sterling Shepard re-enters concussion protocol, limiting his availability: “Sterling Shepard is back on concussion protocol.” (14:43)

6. Strategic Insights and Conclusions

As the playoff season looms, the hosts offer strategic advice to help listeners navigate their lineups:

• Andy Holloway emphasizes the importance of adaptability: “Don't get yourself fully trapped. You might not have a better option than Mark Andrews.” (21:44)
• Mike Wright advises maintaining confidence in top-performing players despite occasional slumps: “That will win out on an NFL field.” (53:20)
• The trio discusses the unpredictability of certain teams and the necessity to manage roster expectations accordingly: “There are certain teams where your confidence on range of outcomes has been punched in the mouth.” (49:29)

Notable Quotes

• Mike Wright on Russell Wilson’s prowess: “Russell Wilson is unstoppable.” (15:59)
• Jason Moore on Lamar Jackson’s dual-threat capability: “That’s quarterback trash for fantasy.” (19:03)
• Andy Holloway on emotional impacts of poor player performance: “Sometimes you don't sleep.” (02:39)
• Mike Wright on Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Jones: “I’m not going to worry that Aaron Rodgers has lost it or that Aaron Jones can’t get it going.” (44:50)

Conclusion

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast provides a comprehensive analysis of Week 9, balancing humor with in-depth fantasy insights. The hosts effectively cover standout performances, disappointing outings, injury updates, and strategic advice, making it an invaluable resource for fantasy managers aiming to optimize their lineups as the season progresses. Whether you're celebrating your studs or lamenting your stinkers, Andy, Jason, and Mike offer guidance to help you navigate the competitive fantasy football landscape with confidence and style.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, coming to you from Pristine Auction.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Ah, welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

That's a healthy man over there.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome back.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm back, baby. I'm a grown man. I'm healthy.

[Mike Wright]

It's your turn, Mike. Go. It's your turn to get down with the sickness.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's actually Brooks's turn.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Brooks is. Brooks is locking that down right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Monday, November 4th. Halloween is over, but we got tricked this week in plenty. Certainly lots going on. We'll get into the stinkers of the week, the Fantasy Stink Stud Muffins. We've got injury news. We've got Monday punday. We've got all the fantasy football reaction of the weekend. We've got starts of the week that were either very good or the worst of the worst. Sometimes that happens and we just have to take it on the chin. Right?

[Jason Moore]

I mean, sometimes you feel really bad.

[Mike Wright]

At your job every now and then. I'll say this, because, look, this is recorded. You know what I mean? We can't get away with nothing here. We put it out there. We get things right, we get things wrong. We get things right more and we get things wrong. But when you get something wrong, it's the only thing you remember.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it actually, if it makes you feel better out there, Foot clan. We melt into the couch with sadness. When that happens when Alan Robinson catches one pass, or when DJ Chark and Chris Conley had Gardner Minshew went out for tea in the midst of their game in London.

[Jason Moore]

It's the only explanation.

[Andy Holloway]

So. So there were. I mean, there were good starts, but there were sometimes. I mean, you should see us around the studio. Sometimes you're like, okay, well, all right, that started the week didn't work out, but he didn't kill you. That's how we comfort ourselves so that we can sleep at night.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

And then sometimes they kill you and.

[Jason Moore]

Sometimes you don't sleep.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true. So we've got a lot of reaction from the weekend. I have some takeaways that I think are going to be helpful for those of you going into the fantasy playoffs. I'm sure my cohorts here have some as well. Let's go ahead and jump into Monday Punday. Get sophisticated. To start the show, we put it out on Twitter. I believe when I checked this Morning, there were 666 replies.

[Mike Wright]

Uh oh.

[Andy Holloway]

To the tweet, which made me feel very scared. But let's do it.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Christian McCarry. Me fantasy MVP for sure. Oh, here's a bad one. Phony Michelle.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, come on.

[Andy Holloway]

One trick. Sony. Eh, man. Gardner Minch.

[Mike Wright]

Ew.

[Andy Holloway]

Or gardener Min Poo.

[Mike Wright]

Gardner Min Poo with his wide receiver, D.J. shart.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Sometimes you gamble and lose.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, let's keep it going on the same theme. Devontur Adams.

[Jason Moore]

Monday Poop day.

[Mike Wright]

What's happening?

[Andy Holloway]

Keenan Allen. Jacoby Regret.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, the guy got. He got stomped on.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's got something. Mcl Ish.

[Jason Moore]

What did I call that? When my homes got it.

[Mike Wright]

Oh man.

[Andy Holloway]

What did he. Kerplunk. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Whoa.

[Andy Holloway]

A Fant Muscle Wilson. I like that one. DK second half.

[Mike Wright]

Alright.

[Jason Moore]

I like that one.

[Andy Holloway]

Danny Amendola. Ooh, here's a sad one. Robbed. Robbed me Anderson.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, more like robbed me againerson over and over.

[Andy Holloway]

Joe, new myth. That's pretty good. And Jason.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I got this one. Desean Jack Squad.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh. So there were lots and lots and lots of very good ones.

[Jason Moore]

It's a good way to get it out.

[Andy Holloway]

You notice though, the Monday punday is a perfect psychological microcosm of fantasy football because 80% of them are about what went wrong.

[Mike Wright]

You always remember. I mean, this is. This is, you know, a psychological, scientific truth to show.

[Andy Holloway]

To show as well.

[Mike Wright]

You know, there's studies talk about how you remember things that happened bad so much more. You know, Tom Brady has six rings and he remembers the ones that he lost. You know, the helmet catch and things like that stick with you more so, you know. That stinks.

[Andy Holloway]

It's true. It's true. We've got a lot to get into today. I encourage you to check us out on YouTube. YouTube.com the fantasy footballer subscribe. Click the bell. Support the show. We appreciate all the reviews, the subscriptions on Apple, podcasts, Spotify, wherever you're listening. The website's thefantasyfootballers.com you can use the Start sit tool and check out a bunch of great articles each and every day of the week. And then Twitter the FFballers as well. Let's get into the Rewind.

[Mike Wright]

Weekly rewind.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. We mentioned on Friday we knew Josh Gordon would find a new home, a good one. He ended up in Seattle. Josh Gordon claimed off of waivers from the Patriots by the Seattle Seahawks past his physical hopes to play Monday night against the 49ers. That does not seem like a great place to start Josh Gordon on your lineup. But I said a lot of things on the show about Josh Gordon, the things he was up against to be relevant in fantasy football. And I can't imagine a better landing spot than a team that has Russell Wilson that's willing to push the ball down the field, escape the pocket, do some of the things that they do on offense. Wilson is arguably the NFL mvp. He's the leader in touchdown passes. He just came off a monster week.

[Mike Wright]

And Josh Gordon gets to replace David Moore, or, you know what I mean, like, he is a significant improvement. I'm glad you the replacement, as you say.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm glad you brought it up like that because it's. He is certainly. If Pete Carroll's anything, he's a loyalist. He's not going to punish DK Metcalf, who, by the way, number three fantasy receiver this week, evolving every week, part of their future. He's not going to punish Tyler Lockett. He's going to use Josh Gordon and it's going to be at the expense of Jaron Brown, David Moore, you know, help with Will Disley out. You saw Hollister catch two touchdowns this week. Gordon has the opportunity to have splash games, but much like any player in this offense, it will come on the efficiency of Russell Wilson. How do you feel about the signing?

[Mike Wright]

I mean, I was shocked that he got that far, as were the Seahawks, you know, they were shocked. They were 28th in the list and they got to him. So all the teams that, you know, you thought might claim him, you know, everyone wanted him to go to the Eagles. They could have teams avoided it. They did their due diligence and decided against it. But I think it's good for Seattle. I do wonder it's good for Russell. It's great for Russell. He's who it's best for. Just another solid weapon. I do wonder going forward if it. If it's a little bit of a negative for DK Metcalf because they both have that similar skill set of just being a monstrous human being that can go down the field, catch a jump ball. So maybe now those get split a little bit, but it's. It's too. Too early to tell.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I can agree with that. I also find it. Is it wrong of Me to be rooting for, like, this strategic play that the Patriots made was to wait for the trade deadline, release him into waivers so that they could avoid him at all costs going to a contender. Is it bad for me to really, really root for Seattle, New England to meet now in the super bowl and Josh Gordon to get to make a triumphant return?

[Mike Wright]

No. That'd be awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

That'd be pretty fun. All right. This sucked. Adam Thielen re injured the hamstring in the first quarter of week nine. He fully goosed your fantasy team. Oh, he goosed my listener league team where I lost by less than a point.

[Mike Wright]

He was close to coming back on the short week last week, so we expected him back this week. And because of that, I, you know, if I had. If I had Adam Thielen, I started him, and I think most people did.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And that sucked. And so now when he comes back for the first time, which he'll probably miss, I mean, usually when people re aggravate an injury, it's. It's a little bit longer timeline, and now you're going to have a really hard time trusting that start. So this is. This is terrible news for Adam Thielen, owners.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, it is, Jason. Terrible news for Deshaun Jackson, owners finally active. Aggravated his abdomen injury.

[Jason Moore]

Don't worry, he'll be good in a couple of weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah. And you don't know what's. What Doug Peterson said, basically, they pulled him precautionary wise. He said he felt something pulled him, examined him, said he's okay. Couple weeks is what Doug Peterson's saying. But at this point, they've got their bye weeks. Destroying your fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

Do they. Do they know the season's almost done?

[Mike Wright]

Well, they've got the bye a couple weeks. Then they've got the New England Patriots. So you're. I mean, you're not going to play in the next two weeks. It's really tough, though. You know, if he were to come back for that playoff stretch of Miami, the Giants, the Redskins, I mean, whoo, that'd be great. But you just can't keep holding him forever. Right. And hurt your roster. I mean, I talked to all in the offseason about not drafting Kareem Hunt because it's a detriment to your team to hold someone that's taking up a bench spot. And that's. That's what DJax has been all year.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you probably need to move on.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'd rather like. I'd rather have my handcuffs than DeSean Jackson.

[Andy Holloway]

Alshon Jeffrey tweaked his ankle in the fourth quarter. Carson Wentz is crying in the corner of a room somewhere. Jacoby Brissette exited with a knee injury.

[Jason Moore]

It has been diagnosed. It's a sprained left mcl.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, so we don't have the mcl ish injury comments anymore?

[Jason Moore]

No, it is. They have dropped the ish.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. That's always good to know what you're dealing with. So we'll see if he's able to return. It could be a, what, a couple of weeks potentially.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, probably.

[Mike Wright]

You know, call me crazy. I don't think Brian Hoyer is a bad backup any more than Jacoby Brissette is. So I don't. I don't expect the Colts to necessarily miss a beat depending on the other injuries they're dealing with. Ty Hilton and, you know, if. If Hilton is Ryan Kelly. Right.

[Jason Moore]

Their center.

[Andy Holloway]

Can Brian Hoyer spin the ball? Laces out. Potentially.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

That was unfortunate.

[Jason Moore]

Have you never seen Ace Ventura?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. That is the one of the more instructional videos that they show.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just saying.

[Andy Holloway]

NFL holders.

[Jason Moore]

I've never taken a snap. It might shock people. I've never taken a professional snap.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

In the NFL.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Good to know.

[Jason Moore]

But if I'm the holder, I am very, very aware it's laces out.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it was great because he spun it. Laces in.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Like, it wasn't like he caught it.

[Mike Wright]

Laces out.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

Whoops. Let me fix this.

[Andy Holloway]

I've been told to spin it.

[Mike Wright]

I've got money riding on them.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe that just gives Adam Vinatieri a nice excuse for the shank. A pot of this.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. That's the thing is, like, there's no way those laces made the ball go that far to the left. Right.

[Jason Moore]

I've always wondered that where you hear the kickers, they want. They don't want to kick into the laces, but it really changes the kick that much.

[Mike Wright]

I don't doubt the kick, that it changes the kick, but he missed that fuel goal by about 100 yards, so it can't possibly be just the laces.

[Andy Holloway]

Preston Williams knee spring was having a great game. Yeah. Him and Devonte Parker. Here's big news, because I know, Mike, you were potentially looking forward to Cam Newton returning. Yeah, it's not looking good. He's frustrated. Injured reserves on the table. For all we know, by the time you hear this, he could be in on injured reserve, but his ankle's not improving. It's very, very likely we'll see Allen for the rest of the year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I expect him to. I mean, if. If he's had this much rest and it hasn't got better, then, you know, action is going to need to be taken and that's going to put him on ir.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Brandon Cooks. Positive visit with a concussion specialist.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, that's great.

[Andy Holloway]

Better than a negative visit.

[Jason Moore]

That's true.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. All right, Weekly rewind news brought to you by the sleeper app. You doing okay with your microphone over there?

[Mike Wright]

Well, it's just funny because now what happens over time when I move my mic, it moves Mike's microphone.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh. Because they're kind of connected.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So it's really fun.

[Andy Holloway]

So is that why you're laughing, Mike? Your mic just started moving.

[Jason Moore]

He's like, we've. We've had enough of you, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Let me. Let me move that out of your mouth way.

[Jason Moore]

We do have the update. Update for modern day football. Hopefully you saw it. Hopefully you're following some news somewhere or our socials. But Sterling shepherd is out and he is back in the concussion protocol.

[Mike Wright]

That's a weird way to say that.

[Andy Holloway]

He'S out and he is back.

[Jason Moore]

I am. I am emphasizing that this is not good. Like, you don't. You don't leave the concussion protocol.

[Andy Holloway]

So he's.

[Jason Moore]

Trent.

[Mike Wright]

I want to have a whole new segment like that at some point. Foot glance. Sterling Shepard is back on concussion protocol. Also, one other update. Our ridiculous water bet that I was very.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Carlos Hyde v. Adrian Peterson.

[Mike Wright]

I was very proud from 1996 on Adrian Peterson. I knew he was going to have a great game, and so I would take the water bet against Carlos Hyde. Adrian Peterson had a great game. 130 yards. He did lost the bet because Carlos Hyde went bananas.

[Andy Holloway]

You only lost by, in our league of record, 0.6 points, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's no good.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, it's time to move on. Let's get into the stud muffins.

[Mike Wright]

This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Andy Holloway]

What more can you say about Russell Wilson? Russell Wilson, five passing touchdowns. Absolutely incredible. Against Tampa Bay, 29 for 43. 378 and 5. We all knew when they got the ball that it was over. Yes. And it was so. 22 touchdowns, one interception.

[Mike Wright]

That's pretty good. He. Look, that's ridiculous. Russell Wilson is unstoppable. He's just. It doesn't matter what you do. You want to pressure him, you want to drop into coverage. You want. Whatever you do, he has an answer for it. He is phenomenal. And I think that the Seahawks are A legit super bowl contending team with what appears to be a below average defense at this point.

[Andy Holloway]

And I think that's the only thing that can hold them back. Russell Wilson managing to overcome, you know, he doesn't have Doug Baldwin anymore. Loses. Will Disley is throwing the ball to.

[Jason Moore]

Tyler Lockett and a rookie and in a clothing store.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Hollister. Okay, thank you. Yeah. Well, we may talk. Look good, play good, look good, play good. That's what he says every time he comes out on the field. Jimmy Garoppolo had the big game on Thursday night. Best game of his career. Fantasy wise. Matthew Stafford continues to impress. Almost had one more touchdown to end that game, but still 406 yards and three touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

See, there's a good start of the week. We did it.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, he's on pace for 5,000 yards and he is second in the NFL with touchdown in touchdown passes. He's already had the bye week. He is having a career year. That's what he's doing. And with Kerryon Johnson going to iron and having very little with the running game, they've put it on the arm of Matthew Stafford and he said, sure.

[Jason Moore]

And it's not just dink dunk, oh no. In the front of the field. It's if you're, aren't, if you are not watching any of these Lions games, they are incredibly fun to watch because it's basically every other drop back. Stafford takes a three step. He's like, oh, steal for. I can throw this ball.

[Mike Wright]

When, when we're watching, we have our nine large TVs that were, you know, trying to catch every moment of all the games and we're together and it's so fun because you know, most of the games there's just normal plays happening. But whichever TV the Lions game is on, you know, it's like put a 90 second timer and go, oh, it's a deep ball. Watch out. It's so much fun. But he's got Chicago this week in Chicago. Are you playing staff?

[Andy Holloway]

Certainly NBA jammed his way into relevance right now. It's a tough call this week. I'm staring this decision down. I'm the Patrick Mahomes owner. I've been riding Stafford. Stafford's been putting up huge games. I think Mahomes may return and solve this problem for me. Yeah, that being said, I don't blame anybody for taking the shot. Chicago has been struggling on offense, to say the least. You could get some short fields, you could get a situation where Stafford ends up with three touchdowns even if it's not 400 yards.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean one thing that we saw this week is that great players on offense can beat great defenses.

[Andy Holloway]

Lamar Jackson, oh, he had a game.

[Mike Wright]

He had himself a very nice game. Two rushing touchdowns, one. I mean this is the thing. His, his passing line. 163 yards and one touchdown. That's quarterback trash.

[Jason Moore]

For fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, for fantasy. Except when, when you can add 61 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns. You had a phenomenal day. And this was one of those players who was, you know, I would say 50% of leagues he was benched in. You had that choice of do I want to take the player or the defense. And you know, I think in the beginning of last week we were much more worried. Towards the end of last week we were saying, I think you start Lamar Jackson. But that was a rough decision.

[Jason Moore]

I was still worried I would have benched him if I had a. Like Stafford. Those were the types of players we were talking about. And that game, that was, that game was three completely different parts where it opened up. The Patriots were not ready at all for what the Ravens were going to do. 17 point lead early for the Ravens and then it was felt like 3/4 straight where the Ravens could not get anything done before turning it back on in the fourth.

[Andy Holloway]

Small diatribe on the. About that game. This felt like you were entering the Gladiators arena and you know how they sometimes they lift the big door and they release the beasts. Except for what came out was like five or six tight ends.

[Jason Moore]

That's.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean whether Boyle Hurst the was the name Ricard, who's not really a tight end. He's a defensive tackle that also plays fullback that also caught passes.

[Jason Moore]

He's also the captain of a starship.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Captain Ricard.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And he's got humongous quads. I mean they were basically coming out there with scripted plays, requads, raquats. Mike's just. He is not hearing a word I'm saying. He is searching for Ricard related puns, jokes and nicknames and he's succeeding. But here's what I actually want to say. I think you talk about things that fantasy owners remember. I am very concerned if I am the Mark Andrews reliant playoff bound fantasy team because there's four straight games now for Mark Andrews where he hasn't been. He left a really strong impression to start the year. Yeah, but Hayden Hurst involved Boyle heavily involved limited passing, total yardage.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's what I was going to bring up.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, so you've kind of Programmed your brain. Like, I have a league where I had Mark Andrews, Darren Waller. Okay, start the year. I can trade one of these dudes. I traded the wrong one. I traded Waller. I feel so much more comfortable, even though he had a rough week, more comfortable with Waller in the offense than I do Mark Andrews. So just don't get yourself fully trapped. You might not have a better option than Mark Andrews. You probably don't.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And I would also just throw out. You know, you're not always going to face the Patriots who try to take away your number one option. You know, it was tough.

[Andy Holloway]

He wasn't even on the field for half the game.

[Mike Wright]

I mean he was my.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the problem I have with it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, when he was on the field, you could see, you know, the Patriots were not paying attention to the Ricards of the world. They were more focused on, you know.

[Jason Moore]

Andrews sub 200 passing yards. In fact, sub 170 passing yards three of the past four weeks for Lamar Jackson, which.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Two for 39 for Andrews.

[Jason Moore]

And now Hollywood, Hollywood Brown is healthy so he's going to absorb a lot of that yardage. I'm with Andy that you still play Andrews, but you're.

[Andy Holloway]

The floor is lower than it was to start the year.

[Jason Moore]

It's shaky.

[Andy Holloway]

And then, you know, you had DeSean Watson doing his thing again in London. Derek Carr had a nice game, 289 and 2. He continues to run the offense.

[Jason Moore]

Well, do not forget about Ryan Fitzpatrick.

[Andy Holloway]

I think we can.

[Jason Moore]

No. Well, you gotta give the man his due.

[Mike Wright]

Do you?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. 288 yards and three touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

I choose not to.

[Jason Moore]

That's a very strange thing.

[Mike Wright]

I'm on the give credit side because I love watching this guy play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I like going to play him though, right?

[Jason Moore]

No, that's not at all what I'm saying. Just he had a great game and it should be called attention to that.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

The Dolphins are no longer winless.

[Andy Holloway]

Congrats.

[Mike Wright]

Congrats, jets fans.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Every unrelated to the shirt. He's just jealous, right?

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

All right, running back studs. Christian McCaffrey is a ho hum, a cheat code. Having an LT esque season on pace for the second most fantasy points all time with Kyle Allen Brooks.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not going to make you speak because you're sick, but I just want to say, remember that time we traded for Christian McCaffrey? Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Stay healthy, Christian, because you're going to win a lot of people fantasy football championships. Josh Jacobs.

[Jason Moore]

Jingleheimer's meant 20 start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

For 120 and two. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

We got to point them out.

[Andy Holloway]

You're going to point those out. Jason, you better point the duds out too. Although I know you will not.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just pointing mine out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Kenyan Drake, obviously the monster game.

[Jason Moore]

Are you bought in or was that just. That was a magical Halloween night.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm bought into the fact that Ken Drake is talented and played to the same strengths that Chase Edmonds exploited in this offense, which is the ability to get around the edge, take advantage of some of the misdirection brought on by Cliff Kingsbury. He has a similar speed profile as what Edmonds was showing in the offense, probably a little bit better. And Drake, you know, he made the most of 15 touches. My concern is, you know, 10 touches. Does Kenyan Drake. What do you do with Kenyan Drake with 10 touches in Arizona? You could probably roll him out there as a flex against Tampa. So I'm bought into the fact that if he gets enough work, he'll be good. I just. David Johnson is going to be back in that game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, David Johnson should be back. Tampa is a surprisingly good team against the run, but what Cliff Kingsbury has done has really opened things up for running backs, for fantasy. I think as the season goes along.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, San Francisco wasn't stopping running backs.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, they had been. Sorry. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So yeah, I think you can utilize Kenyon Drake going forward, but certainly not to the workhorse role that he was when he was the only guy in town.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's throw it back to you, Mike. Kenyan Drake vs David Johnson against Tampa. If David Johnson, he should be healthy and active. Which of those two guys do you play?

[Jason Moore]

David.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I do agree with that.

[Jason Moore]

I had to think about it. But if he's healthy and back, I'll play.

[Andy Holloway]

DJ we had that same decision back to back weeks with Edmonds and David Johnson. And one week you were right and one week you're wrong.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

If you pick David also on the.

[Mike Wright]

Josh Jacobs side before we move on from him, the amount of carries that he was getting, we couldn't believe it. While we're watching. This is like going into the fourth quarter late in the third or something.

[Jason Moore]

I think it was early in the third that he was already at the 20 carry mark.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, they were just, they were just using them like crazy. Here's another back that had a good game and I am really excited about because it finally looked different. It looked like he caught up to the season. Melvin Gordon, is he back 20 for 80 and two. Also had 30 receiving yards on four targets. He looked so much better in this game to me than he had the previous few games. And I'm talking film wise, not just outcome.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's a commitment to the run. We've seen this benefit Adrian Peterson and they dropped Ken Wisenhunt and committed to Melvin Gordon in this game. They obviously played incredible defense that lent itself towards 20 carries. But I'm 100% with you, Jay. And I kind of laughed when I listened to Melvin Gordon talk about this game because they said, hey, are you back? And he says, yeah, I'm getting there. And then they go, do you think that the change in offensive coordinator helped your running game? He goes, yeah, I mean it was just like, it was basically like, yeah, that really helped us. So I'm excited about this guy. Devin Singletary, 20 for nine. Did you hear that? 20 for 95 and a touchdown. Another three for 45 on four targets through the air, which is ironic because he had a 49 yard reception. Can you woof, double check that? The other two must have been behind the line of scrimmage and just didn't turn into anything but Devin Singletary. This is why in Dynasty, I'm sorry, in our keeper league two weeks ago I traded Alshon Jeffrey for him. I wanted the shot in the second half. You're looking at the Montgomery's, the Singletarys. You're saying, can I find a diamond in the rough? And maybe we did with Singletary, Cleveland, Miami on the schedule coming up.

[Mike Wright]

You know, we knew the breakout game was going to come. Obviously we did not know it would be this game. It was still a worthy. I mean a lot of people started him.

[Andy Holloway]

He's in all my lineups that I had.

[Mike Wright]

The matchup was great against Washington and like you said, Cleveland and Miami coming up. I'm not petrified of either of those. Single. Single. I have a hard time not saying single carry because that's how Andy referred to him every play yesterday. But look, he's a really good back for a team that is going to be in positive game scripts more often than not and really wants to run the ball. The fact that he took over as the lead ball carrier, you knew it was going to happen at some point. You're not going to stay with Frank Gore.

[Andy Holloway]

How did Frank Gore do, Mike?

[Jason Moore]

Poorly. I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

11 for 15.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's more.

[Mike Wright]

That's more than a yard of carry.

[Andy Holloway]

For 15 stuffed five times that I saw with a one yard to go.

[Jason Moore]

Referring to the first and goal on the foot line three times.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's why I threw it to you is you were making a big deal about that goal line stand situation and Gore couldn't get it done and.

[Jason Moore]

She was very funny. It was very funny.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was incredible. David Montgomery had the worst first half you could imagine ends up with another not a good game, ends up with another good game on the stat sheet in terms of fantasy points, 14 for 40 and 2, but had a big catch, three total catches. Chicago is burning.

[Mike Wright]

They need a quarterback change. Yeah, everybody in the world knows it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, this team can play top level, best in football, defense. But you wonder if that defense, this happens all the time. I mean, do they believe that what they're doing on the defensive side of the ball is going to make a difference? Or do you become discouraged if you get stop after stop and your offense has nine yards in the first half?

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Matt Nagy is not a visionary. Mitchell Trubisky is not a quarterback. And here we are with a flop of a season and a tilting Matt Nagy. And look, if you're a Chicago fan, where do you go from here?

[Jason Moore]

To the draft.

[Andy Holloway]

To the draft. Mike. Damian Williams 12 for 125 and 1.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. And his starting job back.

[Andy Holloway]

Or is it I get.

[Jason Moore]

Look, it seemed like it was back and then Shady took it and then Shady fumbled it away. But Damian the same way Jason was talking about Melvin Gordon. This is what Damian looked like last week when he finally got in the game. Oh, there's the Damian Williams that they gave the extension to. Looks like he's balling out, hit a 91 yard touchdown run and which Tyreek caught up to him. It was very like. It looked like the scene. It looked like the in. If you guys watched Angry Birds anytime.

[Mike Wright]

Recent I've seen it.

[Jason Moore]

But the yellow Bird, who's the speed and like right. Everything else slows down. That's what happened when Tyreek Hill was. Was running up to Damien who Damien is very fast.

[Mike Wright]

Damien is fast. And Damien looked like me running out there while Tyreek was streaking to catch up with him. But the reality is moving forward, what.

[Jason Moore]

Is Damian Williams moving forward?

[Mike Wright]

He's the starting running back for the Chiefs. It's been very hard to tell. And you don't want to get hoodwinked by this, you know, because Bill Belichick of old, you'd say, oh, now we know. And then you'd come into and the next game plan is just completely the other way. But when you talk about 12 carries to three carries and you look at the snap percentages where Damian Williams was the guy pretty much always on the field. I don't know how you could then say, okay, next week I'm going to take another week with him on my bench and wait because if you can start the Lion's share of the Kansas City Chiefs backfield. That's a good thing for fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't want to take anything away from Damian Williams, but if he did take away the 91 yard run, he was 11 for 34 on the game. So Damian Williams is still going to have a floor that is ugly and that's what's going on in that backfield. You know, with Patrick Mahomes back, you'd hope he does more than two for three on two targets. That's kind of where we expected Damian Williams to make his haze in the passing game.

[Jason Moore]

Lev Bell garbage man. His way to a fine game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that was. That team is another one that you got to be really worried about. Jordan Howard had a nice game. One of the good starts of the week this week. Philip Lindsay was nine for 92 and one.

[Mike Wright]

He's so fast. I couldn't believe, like, I feel like every time towards the end of that game I'd look up and I'd go, oh, Lindsay's, you know, breaking off a run. And then to go back and realize he only had nine carries. He's just, he's so electric.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyler Lockett and DK Metcalf at the wide receiver position number one in three on the week, Mike Evans 12 for 180 and one on 16 targets. He is bigger, faster, stronger, open all the time. Monster.

[Mike Wright]

Do you remember when everybody was really worried about Mike Evans?

[Jason Moore]

He did put up a zero, right?

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no. I'm not saying he hasn't had a bad game, but I'm just saying people were like, you know, it's the Chris Godwin show now, right? And Mike Evans is the biggest, is the number two. He's the clear number two. But the air yards didn't say that. The targets said that they were tied. And now, I mean, you finally you're getting from Mike Evans what you drafted Mike Evans to be. I mean, more than that, right?

[Jason Moore]

Way more than that. He's been insane.

[Mike Wright]

I believe he's the wide receiver one on the season.

[Jason Moore]

So like makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

When you go for 180, that's pretty high.

[Mike Wright]

He had a zero and a bye week.

[Jason Moore]

He's 198 yards and two. 180 and one the past two weeks. That's. That's ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyree kills really, really good. Six for 140 and one. Kenny Golladay, Monster week again. Marvin Jones and Kenny Gollady both had huge weeks on the same week, so that's friendly of them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

What do you make of The Emmanuel Sanders 7 for 112 and a touchdown. Nine targets. I think he's looked very in sync with the handsome one.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it means a lot for Jimmy Garoppolo as a streaming option to have Emmanuel Sanders. And I think Emmanuel Sanders is certainly a flex to wide receiver to type of guy right now.

[Mike Wright]

And you have phenomenal matchups going forward. You get Arizona again in two weeks, which you could say, oh, Patrick Peterson. But Arizona with Patrick Peterson has been beat on the regular. And then Seattle. Seattle's such a good matchup for.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's three straight home games, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And yeah. So it's Seattle, Arizona, Green Bay. I'm really happy with Emmanuel Sanders in my lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Noah, fantastic. Had a breakout performance. Really a breakout play. Three for 115 and one on four targets.

[Mike Wright]

You have to watch the play.

[Jason Moore]

It's incredible.

[Andy Holloway]

This is Gronkian. Very Gronkian.

[Jason Moore]

No offense. Truck sticks a defender and appears to not lose any momentum whatsoever.

[Mike Wright]

It was a bug. Like he. It was the same way. A bug on the windshield. Noah Fant did not know that there was someone trying to tackle him. That guy bounced off of him like a helicopter. And you were right. It was so weird. It was like no momentum loss. He's just running and then this guy smacks into him like it's a brick wall. But Noah is unaware. It was very fun, although terrible tackling with the.

[Jason Moore]

He broke two more tackles, I believe.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

You got a bye week coming up. I'm. I'm happy to see it from a rookie tight end. Big play. We. We had big week from Hawkinson week one. I'm not excited about Noah Fant. Every week we've kind of had one of the big guys do their thing and then there'd be a bunch of kind of no names that. That stepped up. The big guy this week was Zach Ertz. The big nickname. Nine for one of three and one on 11 targets. We had Jacob Hollister with two touchdowns for Russell Wilson. Okay. He's not Will Disley. Athletically, he's not going to be as involved. But Russell Wilson is a benevolent man and Jacob Hollister benefited from. Benefited from it. And then George Kittle is 6 for 79 and one again. I think 6 for 79 and one. They could just write it in for the rest of the year. I feel like that's what he's going to do every game.

[Mike Wright]

I would be very happy with that.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, any. Any other big time performers you guys want to talk about or do you want to get. What do you get into the stink.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, do you buy into Muhammad Sanu's targets?

[Andy Holloway]

I was pretty impressed with it, to be honest with you.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, yeah, 14 targets. I mean, this was Mohsa new coming in.

[Andy Holloway]

10 receptions, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, 10 for 81 and a score. I mean, it was. It was Edelman and Mo Sanu. I know they were in a negative game script, but is it like, okay, Sanu, I'm playing him every week now.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd play him over Dorset.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, that's for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Mosa new is the two.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's move on.

[Mike Wright]

Stinkers of the Week, presented by Odor Eaters.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Gardner. Oh, Gardner. This may legitimately be the last you see of Gardner this year. 27 for 47. 309. Two picks, no touchdowns, two fumbles. Took a big fat dump overseas is what is in my notes from Kyle.

[Jason Moore]

I choose to look at it that the gardener had to fertilize his soil.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, sweet mercy, dude. That soil is going to be so fertile, the strawberries that will grow out of this land record breaking will be the size juiciest of my foot.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness. I mean, if you want to talk about pooping in big boy pants, this was an opportunity against a defense that somehow got better without J.J. watt.

[Mike Wright]

Dude, what the heck? This is the fourth time this year. I'm sorry, but I like the process, the analysis of when you're. When you're a struggling defense and you lose a superstar defensive player. This happened to Denver when they lost Bradley Chubb. And all of a sudden the next week they were great at stopping the run. Same thing happened to Kansas City, who was struggling, and they lost Chris Jones. Chris Jones. And then the next week they're like, oh, look how great we are. The Texans are a terrible defense this year. They lose J.J. watt, who's been really good this year, and then they're like this great. What is happening?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the jets tried to do it. They traded away Leonard Williams to see if they could get better on D.

[Jason Moore]

That's not how the magic works. You'll just trade them.

[Mike Wright]

It's got to be injury because it's morale. It's like the other teams, the other players are, we got you.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, maybe.

[Jason Moore]

What does feel extra bad about this? If I was like, guys, Gardner last week, he threw for over 300 yards and he ran for 34 yards.

[Mike Wright]

That's a good week. Yeah, but it wasn't because instead of touchdowns, they were turnovers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, and turt overs.

[Mike Wright]

Turd overs. Very sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a very stinky show. Here's the thing. We had Alan Robinson and the CNC Music Factory, Chris Conley and DJ Chark. Those were problems for your fantasy team. But if you take the car into the mechanic and they go, we need to find the source of the problem. Welcome to Gardner Minshew and Mitch Trubisky. Mitch Trubisky was 10 for 21 for 125 yards. It was as if a mist, a ghost of a quarterback was standing behind center at this point. Chase Daniel would be an improvement for the offense. But do, do you think that there's any possibility that they come to their senses and do that?

[Jason Moore]

Doubtful.

[Mike Wright]

I think there is a possibility. Not as far as starting this next week. I don't think they're going to make that transition. But Trubisky, I don't see him getting better. And so if you go into next game and at halftime, your quarterback has been trubiskying the whole game, I think they will make an in game change at some point. And if that actually turns things around for that game and they win, then you're going to have a big conversation in Chicago.

[Andy Holloway]

If you want to know what I think, it's that Mr. Bisky has a really sore quad. Real sore, like might miss the week kind of quad. That's what. That's how you get a little beta test on the chase. Daniel, like. Mitch, you look beat up. No, I'm fine. I'm fine, coach. No, no, no, no, you're not. You're not fine.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, what? I just ran into you with a golf cart. I'm so sorry, Mitch.

[Jason Moore]

We get in a Tanya Harding situation.

[Mike Wright]

He was fine. I got to make sure that those quads get a little bruised up.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my gosh.

[Mike Wright]

He's so bad.

[Andy Holloway]

The thing is, is, you know, Alan Robinson is a great player. That's why he was picked. It doesn't matter if you're attached to. I mean, this is like sitting next to a person who farts. You're going to get blamed for it. All right. Because I'm staying on brand for this show. I hope you enjoy the stinkers of the week. All right. Running back stinkers. What happened to Aaron Jones?

[Mike Wright]

You could say the whole Green Bay Packers.

[Andy Holloway]

What happened to the Green Bay Packers?

[Mike Wright]

Well, they were waiting to get Devonte Adams back.

[Andy Holloway]

What happened to Devonte Adams?

[Mike Wright]

Man, that was crazy. The Los Angeles Chargers, they fire their offensive coordinator and the whole team takes a step up as far as just real football. The defense looked great. Aaron Rodgers looked lost. Aaron Jones didn't even get the opportunity to do much. Eight carries. It was just a complete implosion by.

[Andy Holloway]

Green Wayne, one catch. That's where he was making his money.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

See, the carry count actually is not that surprising to me. It is the first time he's been below double digit carries. But him and Jamal have been splitting time. It was the, it was the receptions that were making the difference. He still had four targets, but that was man. So that one feels really bad.

[Andy Holloway]

I wanted to walk out there and open hand slap Jamal Williams across the face.

[Jason Moore]

Why?

[Andy Holloway]

When he did a monster touchdown dance, scoring at 19 nothing. And he does this long super celebration in the end zone. I would have respected if Rogers walked out there and just slapped him and said, what are you doing?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, the game was pretty much over. He lost and he's celebrating his touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I don't mind like spiked the football, but this was like full on. I planned this in front of a mirror.

[Jason Moore]

When you have something planned and you get the opportunity.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's our plan.

[Andy Holloway]

I wonder what Al Borland thought of that because he's back there gazing up.

[Mike Wright]

He's shaking his head now. He's not a, he's not a happy man.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he's a huge Packer fan.

[Mike Wright]

As you know. The analysis here to me is to mostly throw this in the trash. I'm not going to overreact to any of these performances. I'm not going to worry that Aaron Rodgers has lost it or that Aaron Jones can't get it going or that Devonte Adams, you know, this was just a bad game. Teams have bad games and they're going to bounce back.

[Jason Moore]

What about Keenan Allen?

[Mike Wright]

Now that one is a little bit more.

[Jason Moore]

We have, we have not seen a, like a good game for him in what, a month and a half?

[Andy Holloway]

Why? Is this because of, because of Hunter Henry's return?

[Jason Moore]

That's a part of it.

[Andy Holloway]

Is this because of having Austin Eckler has leveled up as a weapon in the offense? He's not just this peripheral piece. He's actually featured. And then you're talking about, okay, Hunter and Keenan and Mike Williams and Gordon and Eckler.

[Jason Moore]

Well, what's wild is two weeks ago it was 11 targets. Last week it was 10. I mean, that. And he still didn't put up a huge performance that plummeted to four. And that with a new OC change and four targets, similar shaky ground feeling beneath you.

[Andy Holloway]

You will. Are you not in the camp then as a fantasy owner approaching trade deadlines of, oh, I should go buy Keenan Allen Low. You said last week you still would buy low.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not trading away my great players for Keenan Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

You would not trade. Okay, so you said nobody in the upper echelon.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

Well, so last week I think the trade that we said we would make was moving Juju to Keenan Allen.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Does that level change now where you say, well, have you seen Juju?

[Andy Holloway]

3 for 6, 3 for 16.

[Mike Wright]

So you. So we'd stick with that.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd rather have Keenan Allen.

[Jason Moore]

I would rather have Keenan Allen with Philip Rivers. It's been horrifically bad for six weeks. But Keenan Allen is a top level talent. It could turn around and then he could just have great games the rest of the way. That's in the range of outcomes. Not projecting that, but just saying that I want to get a player who's been real bad.

[Mike Wright]

I think it is also worth. That can be great having context to the games where he has not performed. Right. Pittsburgh's defense has been great since they got Minka Fitzpatrick. The Tennessee Titans defense is very tough. Chicago is great against quarterback and wide receiver. And then this game was a game where they were winning. Didn't need to throw the ball much because Green Bay didn't show up. The next two matchups against Oakland and Kansas City, those look like matchups that I think you're going to get more out of Keenan.

[Andy Holloway]

There were quite a few disappointing wide receiver performances this week. Stefan Diggs, despite Thielen leaving. Diggs goes one for four.

[Jason Moore]

Wild man.

[Andy Holloway]

We talked about Shark and Conley. Two starts of the stinkers of the week. Sorry. And then Terry McLaurin.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, they have the bye week. Come on, Case Keenum.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, heal up, buddy. At least, at least on this one. This was, you know, we set a must bench situation with no Case Keenum against Buffalo. You can't play Terry McClaurin. And he did. He did what was expected. So if Case Keenum comes back, even with the quarterback change, they're not throwing or the head coach change and they're not throwing the ball as much. If Case Keenum is back, I think Tara McClure is still going to have, you know, fine games.

[Andy Holloway]

I need to hear from the residents. Robbie Anderson, Truther.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Two for 33 on four targets. Have you. Where are you with Robbie Anderson in the Miami game?

[Jason Moore]

In a dark place because Jameson Crowder was the target machine target. He was open frequently. And that's where Sam Darnold went. We're a long ways away from Robbie Anderson's 125 yards and a touchdown against Dallas four weeks ago.

[Mike Wright]

He.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not playing him. I thought he, I thought he would have, he would show signs of life, not necessarily explode in this, but give us, give us 60, 70 yards.

[Mike Wright]

It feels like New England permanently scared. Sam Darnold, like he's, you know, seem like he's regressed. I mean he comes out, he looked great against Dallas and then, you know, when he was seeing ghosts and, and struggling. Now it's, it's a bunch of targets to Crowder and to Love Bell. All right, by the line of scrimmage and that's just not Robbie Anderson's game.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that something interesting is starting to make its way into my mind for fantasy football and that is that, you know, there are certain teams where your confidence on range of outcomes, you know, your confidence has been punched in the mouth and so, you know, juju is a good example.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Like anything that happens in Pittsburgh right now, you don't know what the week to week rudolph experiment is going to be like. Right. And that probably translates over to a team like the jets. Right. You just don't know what the outcomes can be. You look at the schedule and you say, my goodness, the Giants, Washington, Oakland, Cincinnati, that's the next four weeks for Robbie Anderson. Those are the like low hanging fruit that you think he can just jump up and grab four apples off the tree. But what, we'll be lucky to get one.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

That stinks. There are certain teams that are in that boat right now where you just, you could, you could roll the dice, you can get lucky. But I don't have a lot of confidence. Darren Waller finally had a kind of a. I mean, only got two targets.

[Jason Moore]

What are you doing, man?

[Mike Wright]

There were a lot of.

[Andy Holloway]

They won the game.

[Jason Moore]

The walrus is starving.

[Mike Wright]

Feed him. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

There were a lot of five targets.

[Mike Wright]

To stay full that really disappointed. Which. The good news there is that, you know, if you had to play one of those, there's a good chance you played against one of those because Darren Waller and Mark Andrews, we've talked about him. Jonu Smith, a guy that, you know, I was rolling with places and I liked them last week and this week he was my start of the week. He sucked Cameron brake goosed Greg olson. I mean, three for 40 is. Here's what's crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

Those are like right off the bat.

[Mike Wright]

That is a. That is a. That's a terrible line. It's not too bad. It's. You know what I mean? Like, I mean it's sad.

[Andy Holloway]

Hopefully he didn't start Chris Herndon. If you followed the news heading into the weekend, you found out he was active. But there was also the talk of. This was a emergency active. This was a token. Hey, Ma, I'm active. This was not a hey, Ma, I'm gonna play.

[Jason Moore]

This was Adam Gayes saying all week, I doubt it. He's. He's not gonna be active. And then Herndon's like, no, dude, I'm good to play.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I didn't want you to be.

[Mike Wright]

So, yeah, it's. It's weird. It gives you hope for the future. Next week. He should be able to play while being active. But what you've seen from the jets, you just brought it up. Andy gives you no confidence in anything. Giants. I know, right?

[Jason Moore]

Like, come on, man.

[Mike Wright]

The matchup is great.

[Andy Holloway]

Everything but Ryan Griffin could have two touchdowns against the Giants.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just. This is more like a. This stinks. Herndon. Herndon should be balling out right now.

[Mike Wright]

Dude, I, you know, I've. I had picked up the jets defense a couple weeks ago for this stretch run because they're not playing bad teams. They're playing the bottom of the barrel teams. But they just lost. It's a mirror bottom of the. Exactly. And so, yeah, I'm dropping the jets dst. Not confident in any of their weapons, man.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Yeah, get those feet. You don't want those stinky feet.

[Andy Holloway]

Remember when people are worried about DeAndre Hopkins and Mike Evans? All those.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Almost like they're really good players. Players. And the first couple weeks really sting.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But I could say that about. Remember when people worried about Keenan Allen and they were very correct so far.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, he started stronger than he's been.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. But here's the thing. What Andy is bringing up, I think speaks to that point. He's. He's a really good wide receiver. Keenan Allen.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

People are worried right now about Keenan Allen. It's been a longer stretch. But he, He's a great wide receiver at the end.

[Andy Holloway]

One of the best in the end.

[Mike Wright]

That will win out on an NFL field. That's why we're still confident in Keenan Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why you said you trade for him.

[Mike Wright]

Right. He's fantasy production because he's just a great wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

See you tomorrow. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.