Zeke Returns, Undrafted Gems, Thursday Night Preview!

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: "Zeke Returns, Undrafted Gems, Thursday Night Preview!"
Release Date: September 4, 2019

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Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Platform: Pristine Auction.com Studios

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1. Introduction

The episode kicks off with the familiar banter among the hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright, setting an engaging and energetic tone for the show. They briefly touch upon the excitement surrounding the fantasy football season, mentioning upcoming topics such as news updates, big money moves, undrafted gems, and a preview of Thursday night’s NFL game.

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2. Buy or Sell Segment

In this segment, the hosts discuss specific players, debating whether they should be bought or sold in fantasy football leagues based on their projected performances in Week 1.

a. Mark Ingram – 100 Rushing Yards (00:05:02 - 00:06:35)

• Discussion:
  Mark Ingram is evaluated on his potential to surpass 100 rushing yards against Miami. Mike Wright believes Ingram is a "heavy favorite" due to Miami's weak defense, expecting him to "run the clock out in the fourth quarter" (00:05:21). Meanwhile, Jason Moore opts to sell the proposition, citing uncertainties surrounding Gus Edwards' role.

• Quotes:

  • Mike Wright: "Mark Ingram, he'll cross 100 yards a few times this season."
  • Jason Moore: "I think you'll get more Gus Bus than you hope."
  • Andy Holloway: "Either way, I win."

b. Antonio Brown – 100 Receiving Yards (00:06:35 - 00:08:40)

• Discussion:
  The trio debates Antonio Brown achieving 100 receiving yards in his opener against Denver. Mike Wright and Jason Moore support buying Brown due to his strong recent performances, while Andy Holloway opts to sell, referencing Brown's past inconsistency with Ben Roethlisberger.

• Quotes:

  • Mike Wright: "I'm going to buy as well."
  • Andy Holloway: "I will take the under. That's fair."

c. Odell Beckham Jr. – 100 Receiving Yards (00:08:40 - 00:10:34)

• Discussion:
  Odell Beckham Jr.'s potential for 100 receiving yards in Cleveland is analyzed. Both Andy Holloway and Jason Moore decide to sell Beckham’s proposition, citing Washington's solid defense and preferences for other quarterbacks like Baker Mayfield over Derek Carr.

• Quotes:

  • Andy Holloway: "I would much rather have Baker Mayfield being my new face at quarterback over Derek Carr."
  • Jason Moore: "He's going to accomplish nothing."

d. Duke Johnson – 100 Total Yards (00:09:30 - 00:10:34)

• Discussion:
  The debate centers around Duke Johnson reaching 100 total yards. Jason Moore is optimistic, believing Johnson can achieve a balanced split of rushing and receiving yards (00:10:13), whereas Andy Holloway and Mike Wright remain skeptical, questioning Johnson's historical performance.

• Quotes:

  • Jason Moore: "I think he can go 50, 50, 50 on the ground, 50 through the air."
  • Andy Holloway: "I think Duke Johnson is a great player. I'm very curious how many times in his career he's ever been over 100 yards."

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3. News and Notes (00:10:34 - 00:18:25)

This section covers the latest updates from the NFL, including player movements, contract signings, and trade rumors.

a. Ezekiel Elliott’s Offseason and Contract (00:11:06 - 00:16:43)

• Discussion:
  Ezekiel Elliott successfully secured his spot for Week 1 with a lucrative six-year, $90 million contract extension. The hosts commend his preparation during the offseason, highlighting his readiness and the financial commitment from his team.

• Quotes:

  • Jason Moore: "He got out of everything, rested his body..."
  • Mike Wright: "He's doing it right."

b. Tony Pollard’s Role Reduction (00:11:53 - 00:12:10)

• Discussion:
  Tony Pollard's decreased role in the offense is addressed, following Ezekiel Elliott's contract and the subsequent adjustments in the team's running back hierarchy.

• Quotes:

  • Jason Moore: "We have to reconfigure the Tony Pollard experiment."

c. Jared Goff’s Record-Breaking Contract (00:13:06 - 00:14:36)

• Discussion:
  Jared Goff signs a four-year, $134 million contract with $110 million in guarantees, making him the highest-paid quarterback at the time. The hosts debate whether Goff's performance is a product of his environment under coach Sean McVay.

• Quotes:

  • Jason Moore: "Four years, $134 million, an NFL record."
  • Andy Holloway: "Jared Goff is a very good quarterback. It took Sean McVay to unlock him."

d. Melvin Gordon’s Trade Rumors (00:15:32 - 00:17:55)

• Discussion:
  Trade rumors surrounding Melvin Gordon are explored, with the Chargers reportedly seeking a 2020 first-round pick. The hosts express skepticism about the likelihood of the trade and discuss Gordon's current standing with the team.

• Quotes:

  • Jason Moore: "I think there's a chance Melvin Gordon rolls up in week two."
  • Andy Holloway: "It's just rough that the Chargers are saying no."

e. Gio Bernard’s Extension (00:14:48 - 00:15:09)

• Discussion:
  Gio Bernard signs a two-year, $10 million extension with the Cincinnati Bengals. The hosts discuss how Bernard could become a valuable asset, especially with Joe Mixon's workload.

• Quotes:

  • Jason Moore: "Gio Bernard will be used."
  • Mike Wright: "I think that a team like The Dolphins. You want a player who can make something out of nothing."

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4. Undrafted Gems (00:22:00 - 00:36:25)

The hosts highlight players who were overlooked in drafts but have the potential to provide significant value in fantasy leagues.

a. Marquis Goodwin & Terry McLaurin (00:22:49 - 00:26:45)

• Discussion:

  • Marquis Goodwin: Recognized as the "fastest player in the NFL when he's healthy," Goodwin is seen as a potential breakout candidate due to the San Francisco 49ers' depth chart uncertainties (00:22:49).
  • Terry McLaurin: As a rookie wide receiver for the Washington Redskins, McLaurin could emerge as a key target alongside Dwayne Haskins, especially with other receivers being released or underutilized (00:22:50).

• Quotes:

  • Jason Moore: "Marquis Goodwin, he is a weapon."
  • Andy Holloway: "I love it."
  • Mike Wright: "He is a good player."

b. Albert Wilson (00:25:08 - 00:26:45)

• Discussion:
  Albert Wilson of the Miami Dolphins is touted for his speed and opportunity in the Dolphins' evolving offense under new coaching staff Chad O'Shea, who has a history of developing slot receivers (00:25:08).

• Quotes:

  • Andy Holloway: "He has a 98th percentile success versus zone."
  • Mike Wright: "A team like The Dolphins. You want a player who can make something out of nothing."

c. Miles Boykin & Anthony Miller (00:31:54 - 00:36:25)

• Discussion:

  • Miles Boykin: A rookie wide receiver for the Baltimore Ravens, Boykin is highlighted for his athleticism and potential to establish himself as the number one receiver despite dealing with injuries (00:32:34).
  • Anthony Miller: A second-year wide receiver for the Chicago Bears, Miller is suggested as a valuable undrafted pickup due to his strong rookie performance and potential increased opportunities if Trey Burton faces issues (00:34:50).

• Quotes:

  • Mike Wright: "If Boykin comes out week one and gets 8, 9, 10 targets, I think you're going to have a mad dash to the waiver wire."
  • Jason Moore: "I took Anthony Miller in the ninth round."
  • Andy Holloway: "Albert Wilson's ready to go."

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5. Thursday Night Preview – Green Bay Packers vs. Chicago Bears (00:37:12 - 00:48:29)

The hosts provide an in-depth analysis of the Thursday night matchup between the Green Bay Packers and the Chicago Bears, focusing on key players and fantasy implications.

a. Aaron Jones vs. Bears' Defense (00:39:12 - 00:40:29)

• Discussion:
  Aaron Jones faces the Bears' formidable defense, which allowed the fewest rushing touchdowns in the previous season. The hosts express concern about Jones' performance, considering the Bears' defensive prowess.

• Quotes:

  • Jason Moore: "The Bears are special against the run."
  • Andy Holloway: "Does he have to be a pass-catch back?"

b. Mitch Trubisky’s Performance (00:44:49 - 00:46:43)

• Discussion:
  Mitch Trubisky's potential under coach Matt Nagy's system is evaluated, with hopes for increased consistency and utilization in the passing game. His mobile quarterback skills are expected to be a significant factor in his performance.

• Quotes:

  • Jason Moore: "He averages almost five rushing attempts per game."
  • Mike Wright: "I expect him to be a mobile rushing quarterback this season."

c. David Montgomery’s Opportunity (00:41:32 - 00:44:49)

• Discussion:
  David Montgomery's role as the Packers' primary running back is scrutinized. The hosts speculate on whether Montgomery will dominate the workload in Week 1 and the fantasy implications if he does.

• Quotes:

  • Jason Moore: "What if Montgomery runs out there and takes the majority of that drive one snap?"
  • Andy Holloway: "Full steam ahead for David moppertunity."

d. Game Outcome Predictions (00:46:54 - 00:47:27)

• Discussion:
  The hosts make predictions on the game's outcome. Mike Wright and Andy Holloway favor the Chicago Bears, while Jason Moore takes a contrarian stance, predicting a Packers victory.

• Quotes:

  • Mike Wright: "I'm going to take the Bears."
  • Andy Holloway: "The Bears."
  • Jason Moore: "I think the Packers squeak it out in week one."

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up with reminders about upcoming segments, such as the fantasy forecasts for the first half of the games and the start/sit recommendations for Week 1. The hosts encourage listeners to participate in giveaways and engage with their community online.

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Notable Highlights:

• Player Evaluations: Comprehensive analysis of potential Week 1 performers, providing listeners with actionable insights for their fantasy drafts.

• Strategic Insights: Discussions on undrafted players offer strategic depth, highlighting opportunities for savvy fantasy managers to gain an edge.

• Matchup Previews: Detailed breakdowns of key NFL matchups help listeners make informed decisions for their weekly lineups.

Key Quotes:

• Mike Wright on Mark Ingram: "Mark Ingram, he'll cross 100 yards a few times this season." (05:21)

• Andy Holloway on Antonio Brown: "I will take the under. That's fair." (07:44)

• Jason Moore on Jared Goff: "Four years, $134 million, an NFL record." (13:06)

• Mike Wright on Undrafted Gem Miles Boykin: "If Boykin comes out week one and gets 8, 9, 10 targets, I think you're going to have a mad dash to the waiver wire." (31:54)

• Jason Moore on David Montgomery: "What if Montgomery runs out there and takes the majority of that drive one snap?" (41:32)

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Oh, welcome in. Welcome to the show. It's going to be spectacular.

[Andy Holloway]

Hmm. It's real and it's spectacular.

[Jason Moore]

Wednesday, September 4 I like Seinfeld references, Mike. You win the day. Welcome into the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Jason Moore, Mike the fantasy Hitman Wright. I'm Andy Holloway. We've got a great one. Buy and sell on the show today. Some news, some big news, some big money news, some undrafted gems and a Thursday night preview. The fantasy season is upon us. Or tomorrow we'll talk about what's in store for David Mabertunity, Aaron Jones, Aaron Rodgers. All the Aarons will be discussed and I'm excited. You can follow us on Twitter at the ffballers, the website. I encourage you to go check it out. The fantasy footballers.com our week one rankings. The start sit tool. The end season shenanigans begin now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And based on what I was seeing last night, you're very, very interested in week one. The Foot Clan is ready for real football, as am I. And last night we also had the first two Megalobol drafts take place. And my goodness, hundreds of draft rooms.

[Mike Wright]

Filled with the Foot Clan all vying for fantasy glory and that spot in the Listener League 2020.

[Jason Moore]

Also heard your feedback about the auto. Occasionally you had like an auto drafted person that popped into a Megalobol. They just couldn't be there for the draft. We got some feedback about how that took quite a while to get through the drafts. We passed that along. That's going to be improved, fixed for next year.

[Andy Holloway]

We've also removed those people from the earth.

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I'm not taking responsibility for that.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, they're fine. They're on the space station.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, thank you, Mike. I didn't say we like now we're safe.

[Mike Wright]

We're hurting people.

[Andy Holloway]

We just removed them.

[Jason Moore]

But lots of drafts yesterday, today for the Megalobol and then obviously tomorrow week one begins. Bears, packers. And we'll talk about it on the show today. There's still Time to go win a signed Alvin camara [e-mail] and I want to tease out the next couple of days. Thursday, Friday, we'll have fantasy forecast. We'll have starts of the week. Jason's boom boom kicker returns.

[Mike Wright]

Get ready.

[Jason Moore]

Because us removing kickers from our league of record does not remove them from all leagues. Unfortunately. Jason's research, you normally begin around like noon on Wednesday. You wrap that kicker research up by showtime tomorrow.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean I started months ago, deep preparation just for week one. I mean, get ready. I love kickers.

[Jason Moore]

Can we get that sound bite saved to his soundboard Foot clan Friday, Coming up on Friday, in or out, all the injury reports, the second half of the fantasy forecast. And we got a new segment, ballers on a budget that is coming on Friday where it's basically our little DFS segment where we're going to give you some of the best priced players. Our favorite picks for if you're, you know, if you're playing was Tony Pollard. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Back to the drawing board.

[Jason Moore]

Back to the drawing board. But it is Wednesday today, so we'll kick it off with some buy, sell.

[Mike Wright]

Buy or sell presented by Pristine Auction.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Brooks has selected a Number of Week 1 Buy or Sell decisions.

[Andy Holloway]

He calls it faces in new places.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. So we'll start with Mark Ingram. Will Mark Ingram surpass 100 rushing yards in week one against Miami? Bye.

[Andy Holloway]

Bye.

[Mike Wright]

Bye.

[Andy Holloway]

Bye. Bye.

[Jason Moore]

You both believe? Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Purchase.

[Jason Moore]

I'll sell it.

[Andy Holloway]

Bye.

[Jason Moore]

No way.

[Mike Wright]

I have not been the largest Mark Ingram supporter through the draft season. I think Gus Edwards eats in a little bit. But this is, this is the matchup that you're looking for. This is where you're a heavy favorite. You're going to run the clock out in the fourth quarter. You don't have a great defense in Miami. You know, marking room, he'll cross 100 yards a few times this season. I would project a game like this to be the one where it gets done. Now, I would prefer that it's in Baltimore, but it is still Miami.

[Jason Moore]

I think you'll get more Gus Bus than you hope.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, my draft Persona is happy.

[Jason Moore]

Your draft Persona, you're what?

[Mike Wright]

I'm just, I'm saying the part of me that is draft focused, I've been more on the Gus bus. And not just that. Marking room is going to get everything but the week one Persona.

[Jason Moore]

You're saying it would be happy if you were wrong about your buy.

[Mike Wright]

That is correct.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Either way, I win.

[Jason Moore]

Very confused about what?

[Andy Holloway]

No idea what's happening?

[Jason Moore]

So you bought. Not that Mark Ingram will have 100 rushing yards, but you're also happy if he doesn't.

[Mike Wright]

I'm happy if Gus Edwards is the reason he doesn't.

[Jason Moore]

All right, buy, sell Antonio Brown 100 receiving yards to open the season week one against Denver. I will buy it.

[Andy Holloway]

I will sell it.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to buy as well. He looked really good this last. Have you guys. Are you guys up to date on Hard Knocks?

[Jason Moore]

I am not caught up. I have seen Luke Wilson get cut on Hard Knocks.

[Mike Wright]

The cuts are always hard because those are humans vying for jobs.

[Jason Moore]

Can we not do a better job than this long prolonged like one intern to the next intern handoff? Like you know where you're going. But these poor souls have to walk with these players for like 15 minutes to bring them to a special cut room. Can we not text this at this point?

[Mike Wright]

Right. They know what's going well.

[Andy Holloway]

They want the human interaction.

[Jason Moore]

Do they?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the coach time.

[Mike Wright]

The coach does face time.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe a couple people, but I wouldn't want to do that all day long.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I'm going to buy Antonio Brown. I think they're going to force feed him the ball week one, try to get their new shiny toy off to a hot start. This one is close. I. I'm really on the fence about Antonio Brown. 100 yards is a lot for a car.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, last year, even as great as Antonio Brown was, he was only over 100 yards five times with big Ben. So I will take the under. That's fair.

[Jason Moore]

But I, you know, week one, he's got something to prove. Wants to show he's the same guy I'm going to go by.

[Andy Holloway]

Is he going to throw himself the ball?

[Jason Moore]

He doesn't need to. He doesn't need to. Odell Beckham Jr. Week one. New face, new place. Cleveland taking on Tennessee. 100 receiving yards for Odell. Week one.

[Andy Holloway]

I will sell that as well.

[Jason Moore]

I will sell it.

[Andy Holloway]

Tennessee is not a terrible defense at all. And even though we're talking new face, new place, I would much rather have Baker Mayfield being my new face at quarterback over Derek Carr. There just. There hasn't been enough time. I think we need some actual game action for Otto Beckham. Certainly could, but I'm going to sell this one.

[Mike Wright]

I'm look, three names, three buys. I'm in.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

I think that. I think that the.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason says the defense is going on break.

[Jason Moore]

He just wants a great week one.

[Mike Wright]

I want. Maybe I'm just too doggone Excited for week one football.

[Andy Holloway]

But we'll know with number four if.

[Mike Wright]

You'Re helping is widely right now I think he's the consensus number one wide receiver on the week because some of the other top options have really tough cornerback matchups.

[Andy Holloway]

Really?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm saying he. Beckham's number one. I mean I would.

[Mike Wright]

He was when I looked yesterday.

[Andy Holloway]

Thomas. All right, sure.

[Jason Moore]

Not for me. Yeah, I'll sell that one. Lev Bell 100 receiving or. Sorry, sell 100 rushing yards. Also sell with his debut. Mike, you're selling. Jason, what are you doing?

[Mike Wright]

I am selling. I don't buy it. Adam Gase and that offensive line, I will sell it until I have been proven wrong. I don't think he gets 100 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Buffalo's a great defense on top of that.

[Jason Moore]

All right. And then the last one, Duke Johnson, does he reach 100 total yards?

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

So not rushing but rushing and receiving combined.

[Mike Wright]

Are they adding him to the kick return game?

[Jason Moore]

Interesting.

[Mike Wright]

Because if not, then doing all purpose yards. I will sell for full heartedly. I don't. I don't. You know, I think Carlos Hyde still eats into the work. We brought up Alfred Blue and I'll buy it. You're buying?

[Jason Moore]

I'll buy Duke Johnson 100 total yards. Yeah, I think he can. I think he can go 50, 50, 50 on the ground, 50 through the air. No problem.

[Andy Holloway]

I will sell. I'm. And not. This doesn't mean that he can't because I think Duke Johnson is a great player. I'm very curious how many times in his career he's ever been over 100 yards. Because I can't be more than just a handful.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's probably not. Not many but I like in week one that was buy or sell from Pristine Auction. You can go to pristine auction.com use the registration code ballers and you will get $5 towards a sports memorabilia purchase. Hundreds of daily auctions on there. Let's get into the news.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league presented by.

[Jason Moore]

All right, the Cowboys, they got it done. Ezekiel Elliott did what Le'Veon Bell could not do, which is show up for week one after an off season of tumult.

[Andy Holloway]

Or Melvin Gordon.

[Jason Moore]

Or Melvin Gordon. Now, Zeke got a lot of money to show up. So six years, $90 million.

[Mike Wright]

What a great off season for Zeke. Like he. He got out of everything, rested his body through training camp, through preseason whilst in Cabo and then gets gigantic bags of money. He's doing it right.

[Jason Moore]

So it's a done deal. Which means we have to reconfigure the Tony, Tony Pollard experiment.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Right now, the Jane Slater from NFL Network, according to her report, 20 to 25 reps on Sunday, rookie Tony Pollard behind him. I mean, you can't play Tony Pollard now.

[Mike Wright]

No, you can't. I don't think. I mean, look, we've seen this before in 2017 when Lev Bell held out for a long period of time, came back for week one and still dominated that season. He only had 10 carries that week one. So it can happen. Where. But that doesn't mean that the backup is going to get a bunch of work and be valuable. I am still like the question is being asked now, are you just full force with Zeke week one, especially now, they're, they're talking about maybe, you know, will the, will the carries be there? I am without hesitation. There's no chance that I'm not starting Zeke week one.

[Jason Moore]

They're paying him too much money to give him the ball. He's in shape. He's in plain shape. He's ready to go. The Rams surprisingly, was not surprisingly that they would want to get it done. But surprising to all of us who didn't know it was taking place. Jared Goff signs a four year Jared.

[Mike Wright]

Now introducing, all hail the richest quarterback in the land, Jared Gary.

[Jason Moore]

Four years, $134 million, an NFL record, 110 million in guarantees.

[Andy Holloway]

What I had missed that part.

[Jason Moore]

Is Jared Goff this good?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I think Jared Goff is a very good quarterback. It took Sean McVay to unlock him, which I saw some people on Twitter, you know, well, how good is Jared Goff without Sean McVay?

[Jason Moore]

Like, who cares?

[Andy Holloway]

Does it matter?

[Jason Moore]

It doesn't matter.

[Andy Holloway]

How. How good is Todd gurley without Sean McVay?

[Mike Wright]

How good is Sean McVeigh without Jared Goff? Jared Goff, I mean, put in Blake Bortles, the backup, and see how great Sean McVeigh really is.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a huge part of the NFL there. You work your butt off. You're the elite of the elite, and you finally make it to the NFL. And then sometimes you just get drawn a real bad hand. You end up on a bad team with a bad coaching staff who doesn't know how to use you, and you look like you suck and sometimes you're not that great of a player and you're in a perfect situation and everybody loves you.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, you're 100% right. That is just the name of all professional sports.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the name of life.

[Jason Moore]

That's. That's how it goes if Ezekiel Elliott and Melvin Gordon flip teams. I think you've got a totally different situation on your hands with Jerry Jones and what he's willing to do.

[Andy Holloway]

Melvin Gordon actually called Zeke and and said can we work this out, please?

[Jason Moore]

Maybe they'll pay both. Maybe that's the mysterious Melvin Gordon trade to the Cowboys.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Two headed monster Gio Bernard signed a two year, $10 million extension.

[Andy Holloway]

Good for you, Gio.

[Jason Moore]

Gio Bernard will be used.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, agreed.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not moving. Mixing down.

[Jason Moore]

I mean you're not?

[Andy Holloway]

No, because I already had Gio's usage work baked into Joe Mixon where I have him statted out.

[Jason Moore]

That's fair because I think we all believed that Geo would be used. You know, 10 to 15 touches a game, maybe 8 to 12 somewhere in that range.

[Mike Wright]

I think more in the 8 to 12 range.

[Andy Holloway]

But Geo was there for 12 games last year and Joe Mixum was fine. The other things around the Bengals, those are far more concerning to me than than Geo eating workload.

[Jason Moore]

Ian Rampaport reporting that Melvin Gordon, the trade rumors. It doesn't sound like a deal is going to happen because the Chargers are reportedly looking for a 2020 first round pick along with a piece of Melvin Gordon's soul. It's in a transaction, dude.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just rough that the Chargers are saying no. There's the discrepancy of how much money you want and we want to give you. You aren't worth it. Oh, but by the way, you are worth a 20, 20 first round pick.

[Jason Moore]

I think and I, I will be the first to admit I have been on the optimistic Gordon side, which has been the wrong direction. I think there's a. I think there's a chance Melvin Gordon rolls up in week two.

[Andy Holloway]

I chance yes.

[Jason Moore]

He's going to accomplish nothing. He's going to accomplish nothing to just hold out. He's not getting paid a ton of money yet. He's going to lose 300 something thousand dollars a game and he's going to accomplish nothing not to show up.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's not nothing. He protects his body. He can't get hurt in an NFL game. That is true.

[Jason Moore]

That's a good point. But I think that there is a chance and I'm not saying it's a guarantee or that I believe it's probable, but I think there's a decent chance that he shows up.

[Mike Wright]

Where Week two where, if you're still yet to draft, where would you draft him, Andy, with your idea? Because he's pretty much off my board. Like, I can't imagine taking him unless he's in the 12th, because I just. I think that the chance of him missing the whole season is as good as him coming back as early as.

[Jason Moore]

Look at. Look, if I'm in the ninth round and I'm saying, man, I get to have Melvin Gordon in a shot on my team or Adrian Peterson, I'm going to take Gordon. At this point, if I have to decide between Jordan Howard and Melvin Gordon, I'm going to take Gordon because I think there's enough of a chance that, you know, substitute your desires for Kareem Hunt and draft Melvin Gordon. How about that?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I can get on board with that.

[Jason Moore]

So I. It's a. It's a tough situation for him because he's not going to get paid right now. He needs to reorient himself if he wants to get paid in the long term. And the Chargers seem to just be content moving forward with Austin Eckler and Justin Jackson and the. And the players in camp. So I don't think I want to get in to these unofficial depth charts.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think it's valuable.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Depth charts.

[Jason Moore]

I would love to just pretend like it's really valuable because Matt Breida was listed at the number one spot and Tammy Coleman's at two, but you don't.

[Mike Wright]

Want to get to where Michael Crabtree is a starter.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the best part.

[Mike Wright]

That's the best.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Andy hates Michael Crabtree. This is so good. Yeah. The depth charts don't matter.

[Jason Moore]

The league is littered with a bunch of these veteran, preferable situations. I just. You just don't read into it very much.

[Mike Wright]

No, I agree.

[Jason Moore]

So I think. I think that'll do it for news and notes brought to you, as always, by the sleeper app. Get it. Get it. Or else. Apparently, that's. Did I write that, Brooks?

[Andy Holloway]

Or else.

[Jason Moore]

Did I say or else? Yes, sir. Or else you will miss the latest fantasy news.

[Mike Wright]

I thought it might be or else we'll remove you from the earth.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Mike, We've done it before.

[Jason Moore]

Mike acts like that's a real. Or else very severe language.

[Andy Holloway]

So I turned people into scientists.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I did.

[Jason Moore]

That's. If you go to the space station, you become a scientist.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You're an astronaut and you're doing science experiments.

[Mike Wright]

That's 100% true. You have to be a scientist to be at the space station.

[Andy Holloway]

You're growing plants up in space.

[Jason Moore]

That's what they. Mike, I had no idea you're teaching me so much. Today we've got some undrafted gyms we want to share with you.

[Andy Holloway]

Zero gravity pooping upgrade. You think maybe. It sounds like it might be.

[Jason Moore]

Seems like a little bit of trouble.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Well, that's the story of my life. No respect.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we're looking at some undrafted gyms. So some players that are not currently being looked at at all in drafts, they're just left off the draft board. We had. I had a Megalobol draft yesterday, and you get to the end of that draft and you're sitting there, you're. Do I want to put Adam Humphries or Cole Beasley or Trey Quinn or, you know, these type of players on your roster? We each picked a couple of names. I'll go first. The two names I want to bring up as potential undrafted gyms. Marquis Goodwin, wide receiver for the San Francisco 49ers, and wide receiver Terry McLaurin of the Washington Redskins. And he was mentioned yesterday on the show. Mike, you brought it up.

[Andy Holloway]

I love it.

[Jason Moore]

We'll start with Goodwin, though. You know, I was a big Dante Pettis believer. And if you look at the unofficial depth chart yesterday, the starting wide receivers for The San Francisco 49ers are Dante Pettis and Marquis Goodwin. Marquis Goodwin is the fastest player in the National Football League when he's healthy. He is a weapon, and we've seen Jimmy Garoppolo use him. I just think the gap between drafting Pettis in the sixth round, not drafting Marquis Goodwin makes very little sense to me with the kind of up and down news that we've seen from Dante Pettis, at least right now. Debo Samuel is not atop this, this depth charge. Jalen Hurt is hurt. Trent Taylor is hurt. So Marquis Goodwin, I think could be one of those five, ten players that surprise people in week one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he. He could show up easily as a waiver one or waiver wire, week one type of player.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And then Terry McLaurin, rookie wide receiver there. There's not a lot in Washington as far as options. And if you're looking at what Washington has to play for, it's, are we going to develop Dwayne Haskins? Are we going to develop our rookie wide receiver? Josh Doxson has been released. You've got Paul Richardson, you've got Trey Quinn, and then you've got Terry McClure McLaren, who's had great camp reports and has the rapport already built in with Dwayne Haskins, so keep, keep an eye on him. When you define an undrafted gym, what do you. What's the message that you have for the listener?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm looking for a player that I can stash at the end of my bench, that I'm trying to get ahead of the waiver wire run. Like, I think that they have a chance to do something and then they're already on my team. I've already, I've saved that fab. I've saved that waiver priority on this player. And if, if they do nothing, they were undrafted for a reason. I mean, these guys, these, these are long shots. Almost all the players at the end of the draft are long shots. So going for an undrafted gym, you're talking long shot. But massive upside, massive savings. The players that I want to throw out, you know, I want to talk about him. Miami Dolphins wide receiver Albert Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

I like that.

[Andy Holloway]

This, it just keeps getting better for Albert Wilson and his opportunity. Yes, the Dolphins are going to trust the process. They have sold out. They will still have some production. And Albert Wilson, he's it. He's it. In the passing attack, Kenny Stills was kind of the, the other option, but they have sent him out of town. He's now in the Houston Texans. The Devonte Parker experiment still continues, but Albert Wilson's actually a good player. He's fast. He's got four, four speed. You saw it all last year that big plays can happen. Just get Albert Wilson the ball in space and big plays can happen in reception perception.

[Jason Moore]

He is.

[Andy Holloway]

He has a 98th percentile success versus zone and he's going to see a lot of zone because he will be the slot wide receiver. He's also the slot wide receiver for a new coaching staff, including Chad O'Shea, who was the wide receiver coach for the Patriots for 10 years. And we have seen the Patriots have massive success with the slot wide receiver and Albert Wilson could fill right into that role.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think Albert Wilson goes undrafted if he doesn't have the injury last year.

[Andy Holloway]

I completely agree.

[Jason Moore]

I think he's the most hyped, heralded, excitable, I mean, fantasy exciting player on this team if he doesn't have the injury and then you got the changeover at the quarterback position in the coaching staff. So there's all these murky kind of variables, but they're starting to, you know, Kenny Hills being traded away, Wilson looking good.

[Andy Holloway]

Wilson's ready to go.

[Jason Moore]

Right? So it's starting to look fine with.

[Mike Wright]

A team like The Dolphins. You want a player who can make something out of nothing. You know what I mean? It's not that the Dolphins are some great offense where they're putting up so many points that you just want whoever the wide receiver one is. You want a guy who on a certain game, you know, maybe they're down, maybe it's the beginning or late in the game and it just takes one play where all of a sudden he's so fast and electric you just take a screen to the house.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm guessing the Dolphins are going to be seeing a lot of negative game scripts which turns into passing.

[Jason Moore]

I concur.

[Mike Wright]

So does Vegas.

[Jason Moore]

So who's your second pick?

[Andy Holloway]

It's not as exciting as Albert Wilson. I really want to stash Albert Wilson. But starting running backs are very hard to find and as of now, until further notice, Frank Gore is still the starting running back for the Buffalo Bills. I know we're very excited. The fantasy community is very excited to see what Devin Singletary can do. But I think the removal of LeSean McCoy just entrenches Frank Gore as the starter, at least for the short term. This isn't. You're going to hold on to Frank Gore and all season ride him out to the regular Frank Gore RB12 finish. But at the worst, it's a timeshare with which I believe Frank Gore will see the higher end of the timeshare. So I'm just interested to see week one. Does Frank Gore go out of the right out of the gate and Frank Gore is getting 15 plus carries.

[Jason Moore]

If you want to hear the full breakdown on the Singletary situation. Frank Gore, we talked about it a lot on yesterday's show. I'm curious if I can dive into it for just two seconds.

[Mike Wright]

Sure, I'll allow it.

[Jason Moore]

I'm curious what what your thoughts are. Just, you know, people want to see what Singletary can do, but he's a really small guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

I mean he's a 200 pound, five seven running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Baffling.

[Jason Moore]

He did not, you know, score in, you know, none of the workout metrics. Did he impress in any way, shape or form? I remember not liking the college tape very much. I thought he's looked fine in the preseason, but is there? I'm starting to wonder.

[Mike Wright]

He just stinks. If he comes out and can't hang.

[Jason Moore]

Even if he doesn't stink, does the team view him as this guy that, like, why would they move on from Gore at any point during the season and just hand the whole backfield to Singletary?

[Andy Holloway]

I Don't think they will.

[Jason Moore]

I just am thinking it's going to be more committee based. I think the team's going to be better than people think. I think they're going to ride that 500, ride those rails throughout the season, which doesn't make me think they're going to just try to turn to Singletary. I just am starting to just wonder what that looks like in the backfield and whether Gore will be there as a thorn in the Singletary owner's side throughout the season.

[Andy Holloway]

And Singletary like he is absolutely baffling. He's a smaller guy. He's not. He's not off the charts athletically. In fact, he's quite under the charts.

[Jason Moore]

He's down beneath the charts. He's looking up at the charts.

[Andy Holloway]

But his college production profile is absolutely massive. He did it on a really bad team and he won with power.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's.

[Andy Holloway]

Which is he. But he's small and so can he translate winning with power?

[Jason Moore]

15 bench reps, 12th percentile.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm saying he is a very confusing player. The Bills do see something. I just believe that Frank Gore is going to be used more than drafting Singletary in the mid to late rounds and not drafting Frank Gore at all.

[Mike Wright]

I think if you're in a deep league, like a, a 14 team league with, you know, two flexes, something like that, Gore is very valuable because he's just guaranteed use. Otherwise though, I'm not excited about Gore because I'm not excited. Sure. But I mean you brought up like undrafted gyms. You're looking to scoop someone up before the waiver claims go nuts on this guy after week one.

[Jason Moore]

Now we all agree Frank Gore's best days are ahead of him, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Probably.

[Mike Wright]

He is infinite. He is all is Frank Gore.

[Jason Moore]

Sorry to cut you off.

[Mike Wright]

So you know, I'm trying to fight but I agree you can't have enough running backs like you just.

[Andy Holloway]

He.

[Mike Wright]

He is currently a starting running back and you need running backs. That's why one of my undrafted gyms is Gio. Bernard just paid. They're not paying him to not use him and he is in the situation where there is a world where he becomes better.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Joe Mix. It goes down and all of a sudden Gio is.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Geo is a stud. If Geo's a. He's not a handcuff because he has standalone value but he has that handcuff built into him.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. So that's why I'd rather stash a guy like Gio who could change into a star. You know, If Devin Singletary goes down, Frank Gore doesn't really get that much better. It's like, oh, we're going to give you five or six, you know, a couple more carries a game.

[Jason Moore]

I went through the motions with GEO in the Megalobol draft yesterday. It's a two flex league. Last couple rounds, he's sitting there and I'm just like, I just don't know what I. Joe Mixon, to me, can overcome a lot of the problems on the offensive line and I just don't think geo with 8 to 12 touches a week, will ever do anything for you. So I'm personally not in on that as a pick unless you're in a super, super deep league.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a PPR flex type of move.

[Mike Wright]

It's a PPR flex and it's really the handcuff upside. I mean, you're not excited about Geo or you're not going to be using GEO when Joe Mixon is, you know, out there getting all of the work unless you're in one of those deep PPR leagues. But if Joe Mixon goes down, then you've got to start before the waiver wire goes. The two players that I am more excited about, I want to throw out. Miles Boykin. We haven't talked about him a lot. He's a rookie wide receiver for the Baltimore Ravens. He wasn't even the first rookie wide receiver drafted by the Baltimore Ravens because Hollywood Brown went in the first round to Baltimore. But he's been dealing with his injury from college.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not a Liz Frank.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's not up to 100% right now. You know, he didn't get camp with Lamar Jackson. Miles Boykin. The buzz around town in Baltimore is that he could very well establish himself as the number one. And he is the exact opposite of under the charts when it comes to workout metrics. I mean, he's a 90 plus.

[Jason Moore]

He's up above him.

[Mike Wright]

He's like looking, looking down at those graphs. He's saying, look at this graph. So thank you, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I saw where you were going.

[Mike Wright]

He is an athletic monster. He's 6, 4 runs a 4, 4 2. He's great across the board. He's not like a DK Metcalf where it's like, oh, he's great in a straight line, but, you know, if he tries to move side to side or quick little bursts, he's uncoordinated. This guy's a true different breed of athlete. He's great against press coverage. Matt Harmon loved him in reception. Perception and every reason I like Mark Andrews, that, you know, the fact that he's a big bodied guy, that could, could emerge. That could also be true of Boykin. And then the last name, I'll throw out Andrews. Okay, Boykin on it.

[Jason Moore]

Boykin, greater sign McLaurin for this year.

[Mike Wright]

I agree.

[Jason Moore]

That's where I'm at. I just wanted to put that out there because you brought up Boykin. I brought up McLaurin. Both rookies, both with opportunity, but I like Boykin more than I do McLaurin. And I think, you know, when you look at what Lamar Jackson had success with last year, I brought this up. Warren Sharp was talking about this like he was not. Lamar Jackson struggled when he was put in a position like these. Forced passing downs, third down and long. He struggled throwing in those situations. He was very good when he threw early in the drive, first and second down throws. So I just think if there's a rapport there, Andrews, Boykin, those could be two of the main guys for this season.

[Mike Wright]

If Boykin comes out week one and gets 8, 9, 10 targets, I think you're going to have a mad dash to the waiver wire. You know, I'm not usually in on early season rookie wide receivers, but this is a free one. This is an undrafted guy that costs you nothing. So. So what? Grab him. If he pops in week one, you've already got him. If he doesn't, then move on because he was undrafted anyways. And Anthony Miller, Anthony Miller is a.

[Jason Moore]

Guy that drafted now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean because of the injury.

[Mike Wright]

The injury kept him out of preseason and out of a little bit of camp. He was a guy that when he was, I forget where he was like the 10th round. I was loving his value there until the injury. Now the injury caused his value to be undrafted. He's on the waivers. He's the second wide receiver, a second year wide receiver as well for the Chicago Bears.

[Jason Moore]

Also not on the injury report, in case you're curious.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I was going to bring up. He's not even on the injury report for this first week. You know who is? Trey Burton. Trey Burton is dealing with a lot of issues this whole camp. So part of the reason that you had hesitations with Anthony Miller was there's a lot of mouths to feed there. But maybe with Burton a little, you know, under the weather, physically you, you have more opportunity for Anthony Miller. He was awesome as a rookie. Even though he hurt his shoulder and had to have shoulder surgery after the season. Seven touchdowns as a rookie, he flashed A lot. So he's a guy that I would also keep an eye on. I'd be fine with him or Miles Boykin stashing those guys.

[Jason Moore]

Anthony Miller, greater sign. Miles Boykin, Greater sign. Terry McLaurin. I took Anthony Miller in the ninth round of a 12 team Megaloboy yesterday.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Okay, so I.

[Mike Wright]

He's a good wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, we liked him. He's been in the ultimate draft kit until the injury stuff happened. But you know, that was just after desean Jackson. That was ahead of Corey Davis, James Washington, Michael Gallup.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, you're saying other people's picks, correct? Okay. I thought you were saying my own pick. Yeah. And I was scared for you. No, it's kind of Corey Davis.

[Jason Moore]

It's kind of funny because I took Anthony Miller in the ninth, I took Marquis Goodwin in the 12th round just for a deep shot. It's a two flex league. You need to have somebody you can play, not just wait on. That's the hard part. You drop those guys. These are all players that hopefully you know something early. Quickly move on if you're not interested. So that is it for undrafted gyms. You guys want to talk about real.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my goodness. Thursday night breakdown. It's been too long. My sweet friend.

[Jason Moore]

Wait, one friend? You just. Which friend are you referring to?

[Mike Wright]

I'm referring to football.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

The best friend.

[Jason Moore]

The best friend.

[Mike Wright]

My best friend. Sorry, guys.

[Jason Moore]

The Green Bay packers take on the Chicago Bears in week one. The Bears are three point home favorites. It's a 46 point over under.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not bad.

[Jason Moore]

And this is a what? These two teams faced off week one last year, did they not?

[Andy Holloway]

They certainly did. That's where Aaron Rodgers at right before halftime. Everyone thought Aaron Rodgers was done for the season.

[Jason Moore]

Little Willis Reed action and then came.

[Andy Holloway]

Back and was it three touchdowns to come back and win?

[Jason Moore]

Yep. 24, 23. Big comeback.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And here we are. Aaron Rodgers, Mitch Trubisky. David Montgomery gets his first opportunity of the season. Aaron Jones. This is the week of conclusions. The wrong kind. Remember office space, the jump to conclusions.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yes.

[Jason Moore]

All the fantasy players, they break that mat out this, this year. I. I'm worried about people breaking it out in week one.

[Andy Holloway]

Of course we are. Because for Aaron Jones, the only thing, the only thing better than taking a preseason victory lap is a Week 1 victory lap. Because that's. It's for real. It's locked.

[Mike Wright]

It feels so good.

[Andy Holloway]

I win. I win. It's over.

[Jason Moore]

You guys remember Mike Gillislee was that week One.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I do.

[Mike Wright]

Great. Oh, Jordan Howard getting out to that pass catching roll.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Last year. Yeah. Yeah. Then that didn't hold up. Yeah. I'm just hoping that this game is a lot better than last year's kickoff, if you remember.

[Andy Holloway]

What are you talking about? It was great.

[Mike Wright]

The Falcons Eagles.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I thought you were talking about the Bears Packer game. Like that thing was. That was incredible.

[Mike Wright]

I'm talking about the NFL kickoff that I was so excited for last year and then it was just.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

That's 12 to 18.

[Jason Moore]

Aaron Jones may have a rough go to begin the season. Let's start with Aaron Jones. I think we all like the upside. The Bears last year allowed the fewest rushing touchdowns. I looked it up this morning. It was one touchdown per 67 rushing attempts. To put that in context, Aaron Jones averaged a touchdown every 16 attempts last year. The Bears are special against the run. They had the second lowest early down run success rate, running back struggle against the Bears defense we saw last year, they gave up the least amount of fantasy points to the running back position, you know, the third fewest to the quarterback position. They were just a great defense. We all know that. So if you believe in Aaron Jones, you, you really shouldn't not believe in him if he struggles in week one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's very true. The big thing to watch for me is not do I play Aaron Jones this week you drafted Aaron Jones in the third round, maybe the fourth round. You're playing Aaron Jones. You're watching this to see if Jamal Williams is in the game more than you thought or hoped he would be.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And this is a game where the packers could get down, in which case you're watching to see if Aaron Jones is the pass catch back and utilized in that way to a greater degree. Because, you know, the last several years, Aaron Rodgers hasn't targeted the running back as much. I mean, he loves to look downfield. But the camp reports are the amount of screens and setup for Aaron Jones in the passing game. So that's one of the things you're going to be watching for. He's going to be started. He's my running back, 18 this week, so I don't have this as a great week for him. But still an RB2 range. If he is involved in the passing game as we expect, he should be fine, even if the game turns a little bit south.

[Jason Moore]

The second matchup for Aaron Rodgers in the Bears last year, Rogers had 274 yards, 42 pass attempts, zero touchdowns. In the Bears victory in Week 15 I, you know, I think a lot of fantasy owners are curious about go beyond the guys that, you know, you spend a high draft pick on Devonte Adams, you play him. You spent a high draft pick on Aaron Jones, you're going to play him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

But some of these later round picks, seeing, you know, whether it's Geronimo, Allison or Marcos Valdez scantling, can you really roll either of those guys out there in week one with any sort of optimism?

[Andy Holloway]

No, not with, not with confidence. I mean perhaps you're in a three wide flex league and you have to play them because they were both Geronimo and mvs, they kind of went around the same range in that 8, 9 area. So you might be forced into playing them. Hopefully you don't have to. This was, this was a hard part of, of drafting. I mean spending that early pick on Aaron Rodgers, knowing that week one, he's got to go up against the Chicago Bears and the same for Geronimo and Marquez. It's, I would prefer to sit and see how that shakes out. It will be interesting because Geronimo and Marquez are allegedly, they're changing positions where last year in his short action, Geronimo was an outside receiver. Marquez in his rookie year, he was in the slot and they have swapped. Geronimo is now in the slot. I want to see that utilization.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And you know, it's probably going to take more than a week to figure this out with those two players. On the Bear side, David Montgomery, Tariq Cohen, the veteran, Mike Davis.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, we mentioned it yesterday, but cannot wait now.

[Jason Moore]

I'm really excited to see David Montgomery tomorrow night. The packers allowed the 10th most rushing yards in 2018. It's a great opportunity at home for David Montgomery to get off to a quick start if he's running. I know you guys joked yesterday, it's certainly a possibility because this happens all the time that Mike Davis runs out there for the first snap because football. But what if it's not. What if it's David Montgomery snap 1. I mean they sat him down after just like a little teeny bit of preseason work. They, you know, pretty much awarded him this, this opportunity in the offense. You know, what if Montgomery runs out there and takes the majority of that drive one snap? Are people going to lose their minds?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. This game right here is a perfect example of. Okay, let's say that you, you went running back heavy early and you've got Aaron Jones and David Montgomery on your roster and you can play one of them. I would play David Montgomery over Aaron Jones, you're at home. You're favored. That's good for the lead running back. I know he's a rookie and we haven't seen it and we don't know what the timeshare is but the capital spent on him, the way they utilized him and then sat him in the.

[Andy Holloway]

Preseason, the way they've talked about and the way they have talked about. We overused Tariq Cohen last year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean it's full steam ahead for David moppertunity.

[Jason Moore]

David Montgomery, RB17 on the Week Tarek Cohen RB29 on the Week. That's where we have them as of right now. You can get all of the rankings at the fantasy footballers.com if you support the [e-mail] youm also get flex rankings. You get more than two player start sit comparisons.

[Mike Wright]

You get premium projections.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you get the projections on the week. But very excited to see what Montgomery has in store for the packers in Week one at home.

[Andy Holloway]

Mitch Trubisky I don't hate it.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

I don't hate it at home against another team that could score on the packers or on the Bears defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't hate it. But hopefully you have a better option because it's week one. We're not streaming yet.

[Jason Moore]

No. And you. So in that case you probably aren't playing Mr. Bisky.

[Andy Holloway]

No, just saying if you got him. I don't hate it.

[Jason Moore]

I want to see the the way this offense looks to start the year. Mitch Trubisky second season with Matt Nagy Allen Robinson second season in the system, another year removed from the injury and maybe he can be more consistent. Maybe he can be more regularly targeted and healthy on the field. He had a monster playoff game. He was 10 for 143 and one against Philadelphia.

[Andy Holloway]

Saw seven or more targets in seven of his last eight games. You saw that Alan Robinson, as the season progressed he did become more involved. He was coming off the acl, which it's very difficult for us as fantasy players to remember all of the context of which these players started the year. But that's what he was. And for Mitch Trubisky, does he go back to running? Because he averaged almost five rushing attempts per game, which is. That's nice. Those are some nice numbers for your quarterback. But he hurt once he hurt his shoulder about two thirds or so through the season. That's when he stopped running around. That's when his fantasy production went right back into the toilet. So that if I'm watching anything from Mitch, that's What I'm looking for 100%.

[Mike Wright]

Because the splits between the first half of the second half of the year were massively different with his rushing attempts. I believe that was because of the shoulder injury. Which leads me to then conclude that because he's healthy right now, he's able to run, he's able to get out of the pocket. That's a big part of his tool set. I expect him to be a mobile rushing quarterback this season.

[Jason Moore]

So obviously Vegas has the Bears as three point favorites as we conclude this matchup breakdown. I would love to get a game one pick from you guys.

[Andy Holloway]

As in who wins the game. Who wins the game?

[Jason Moore]

Who do you think wins the first game of the NFL season?

[Andy Holloway]

Chicago.

[Jason Moore]

Now, Jason, I know you'll be tempted to take both teams.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry, Al.

[Jason Moore]

To guarantee that you'll be right in this situation, but I'm going to encourage you to pick one.

[Mike Wright]

The Green Bay Bears. No, I am going to take. I'm going to take the Bears in a.

[Jason Moore]

Take the Bears at home in a.

[Mike Wright]

Sadly low lower scoring game. I'm going to take them 2417.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, Mike, make your pick here.

[Andy Holloway]

The Bears.

[Jason Moore]

You got the Bears as well. Well, I'll be the contrarian then. I think the Packers. I think the packers squeak it out. I think they squeak it out in week one. I think, you know, Mitch Trubisky is put into a position where he's got a final drive to come back and tie the game up. And shucks, he doesn't do it now.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, to be fair to Mitch, the last time we saw him trying to catch up like he had to lead the team down, he did. He did it in a great way. There was just somebody else who let the team down.

[Jason Moore]

Was it a kicker, Mike?

[Andy Holloway]

It was.

[Jason Moore]

Was it not so boom boom as bad bad? Maybe, but. All right, I'm excited. As a reminder, I said it earlier. Fantasy forecasts the first half of the games will review tomorrow our starts of the week for week one.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys should probably get to those in by the way.

[Mike Wright]

Oh no. You dirty dog. You dirty dog.

[Andy Holloway]

Mid season form already.

[Jason Moore]

Mike is already in mid season form. He snuck into tomorrow's show, Doc. He put his starts of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

I did it yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

Oh my goodness. You're very, very sneaky. Then he breaks it out on the show. Don't forget to go to FootClangiveAway.com you can win a signed Alvin Camara jersey that is courtesy of Pristine Auction, the show sponsor, the studio sponsor a signed Sakewon jersey. $88 yesterday on the show. And that is it for today's episode of the Fantasy Footballers. Thank you for subscribing. Tuning in Listening Jason I think the Green Bay Bears have a great shot tomorrow night, so we'll catch you tomorrow.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, we will. Foot Clan Goodbye.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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