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2025 Fantasy Football Mock Draft | PPR Expert Picks (Ep. 1662)
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This is an I Heart podcast. Hi, it's Honey German and I'm back with season two of my podcast. Gracias. Come again. We got you when it comes to the latest in music and entertainment with interviews with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition. No, I didn't audition. I haven't auditioned like over 25 years. Oh wow. That's a real G talk right there. Oh yeah, we'll talk about all that's viral and trending with a little bit of Cheeseman and a whole lot of laughs. And of course, the great Beat us you've come to expect. Listen to the new season of Dashes. Come again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello everybody. Welcome into Fantasy Pros. I'm Ryan, warmly joined by three of my favorite people to talk to. It's Scott Baughman, it's Chris Welsh, and it's Jake Seeley from the Athletic. Guys, we are doing a PPR mock draft. Bogman, I was just talking to you. I have done a lot of Dynasty mock drafts with you this summer. Not so much on the Redraft side. So I'm very excited to be host this one and participating with you guys. I'm going to pause the draft here. It just started here. Bogman. There's a 30 second clock. I want to run through some stuff at the top here before we get going. Shout outs to all of our listeners, by the way from Discord, who join in on this mock if you want to get in on a future mock draft episode and be on the show. For anybody listening, make sure you're part of our Discord community where we drop in these links all the time and are running mocks pretty constantly throughout draft season. Quick reminder for everybody that all of our 2025 consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypros.com rankings. Also, today's live PPR mock draft is done using our mock draft lobby over@fantasypros.com DraftWizard just like you'll see today, our multi user drafts allow you to practice quick and fun mock drafts against both real and CPU opponents using the same easy to use interface as our draft simulator. Public mock drafts are now available. So head to our mock draft lobby and either join a mock draft or try our draft simulator for a lightning fast realistic mock draft experience based on your league settings. Sync your league today for free and try the draft simulator@fantasy pros.com Mock all right guys, before we dive in Here we're kind of, you know, back half of August. We've tested out some strategies here already. Welsh, is there a particular strategy you're thinking about? I believe you're picking 10th in this.
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Mock the winning strategy. I plan to be the winner and be ranked the highest per usual. Now, I like the. I've been playing a little bit more with the back end of drafts. I think in an article we had on Fantasy Pros, we were doing our perfect drafts. I had laid out that, you know, like that five spot. I did that a couple months ago. So I've had a lot of. And I think, you know, the five spot is really nice. You know, you're getting one of four or five. Maybe you're getting a Justin Jefferson that falls or a CD Lamb. I feel like I've done a lot of that. I've been slowly starting to press in a couple of those, like, 10 elevens just because I really like the running backs that are right around there and I like the double tap of wide receivers. So ideally I'm looking at like, you know, some combo of two great wide receivers or running back, wide receiver, and I feel like that just kind of sets you up through the rest of the draft, though there are some weird, you know, falling valuations on players with all the rumors with like the HN injury and stuff like that. We'll see what happens if anything funky goes on in this draft. Speaking of, you know, we have the live ADPs that are out there, so you can see all the funky stuffs for everybody else. Not going to necessarily affect here, but maybe we can kind of help represent some of those. But we've got live ADPs available on fantasy Pro, so make sure to go check that out as well.
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Real time ADP is an awesome, awesome new feature that we have over at Fantasy Pros. Jake, before we get started here, anything you got going on at the Athletic?
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Yeah, the best article ever. The biggest mistake everybody's making in their leagues. Stop wasting your bench. Just came out a few days ago. Is getting a lot of traffic and you can see why. So stop wasting your bench.
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Definitely. Definitely take that advice. All right. And Bogman, you have the first pick. Jamar Chase. Feels like a pretty easy one. You are, of course, a Texas fan. Are you considering Bijan? What direction are you going here with the 101? And do you like having the 101?
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101 is okay by me. I like being, you know, near the front this year in the draft because I like that swing at the the turn at 2, 3. So. And Jamar Chase is a pretty easy pick. I am a Texas fan, I love Bajan. But with this Cincinnati team having no defense and not working anything out with Trey Hendrickson, I don't know how every game is in 48 to 49 that they play this year. So I think Jamar Chase is going to have a lot of receptions, a.
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Lot of make your pick. Do you like being this close to Jake?
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No.
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Okay.
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That is not my favorite. I'll say that.
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Jake for you. Is it as simple as one of Chase or Bichon gets to the 1 or 2? Are there other names you consider there at the 1 or 2?
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No. We need to resurrect that old gray Poupon commercial and like roll down the windows and be like Barkley. No, Bijon. So like I have no problem with taking Barkley.
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Pardon me?
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Yeah, it's the same, it's the same tier. Gibbs, Barkley, Bijan. But I think the point being is of the three, if you want to argue risk and you're, I mean we are nitpicking between the three, I think Bijan's the best all around option with the least amount of risk and similar upside. But if Chase didn't go one on one. Yeah, that would be an instant click.
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Feels like a pretty standard start so far. Jamar Chase 101, Bijan 102. Gibbs goes three. CeeDee Lamb four, Justin Jefferson five, Christian McCaffrey six. Well, did you think he might get down to you the 110? He's kind of an interesting pick because the upside is like 101 level, but injury risk kind of going all over the place in the first round.
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Yeah, I mean definitely that 10 spot. The hope is. But you know what, McCaffrey has done nothing but rise all season long. There was a time when we were doing stuff where he was in the second round every single time. He has just creeped up and up because of the health and yeah, I mean me laying out like I wanted the running backs later, that was a hundred percent the reason. But I'm surprised McCaffrey went ahead of Saquon Barkley and Saquon Barkley is one. He's going to go right in front of me, of course. But Saquon Barkley is not gone and I'm at the 10 and I just really wanted to have one potential theoretical focus on running back here. But it was built around McCaffrey. But he's on a rocket ship, man. And as long as there's no Little scaries or anything like that. He is, he's going to stay there and they go, you know what just.
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Happened to you Welsh? It's this Juan Soto meme where he's just staring through the fence in the outfield. That's you. You're like, you watch that value falling and falling and falling and it sniped right before.
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That's 109 is. Is about as late as. I mean I know people have been fading him with the injury risk but like after Amon Ra after neighbors. Like neighbors is injury risk. Like that's 109 is pretty.
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Who currently has an injury neighbors last year.
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Yeah, Puka goes to. To Welsh here. I mean talking about injury risk. It's not necessarily always his injury. It's. It's his quarterback. Do you feel confident in Puka as a first round pick Welsh? I mean clearly you do.
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Yeah. I mean this is ppr. This is full ppr. Like the one thing we know is he's going to get 1200 catches in two weeks. Like that's what he does. It doesn't matter who the quarterback is. It could be, I mean it could be Aiden o' Connell that's out there throwing him passes like he's gonna get it. It could be Daniel Jones. It doesn't matter. Like it's good. I would have loved the value. As Jake said. I was staring at Saquon Barkley falling to me to 10 because I wanted it back. Puka was too good of a value. But I also like I'm not too scared off of a Chan to not take him here. And Genti and Henry are there. This is kind of what I wanted. I wanted like a back like that and then a high end wide receiver. So I could have taken Genti and then maybe hoped one of those wide receivers would fall back. But there's dirt bags like you that are drafting in front of me taking Genti in London so.
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Well I wanted to. I wanted to do London, Nico as a pair and then. Oh see that's.
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See where we get to ask all the questions all the time. I was actually going to ask you the question this time. Was there any thought in your mind? I would have immediately because it's full point ppr. I would have immediately quickly double tapped London Brian Thomas Jr but you went London and Genti because.
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So the main reason I did Genti is because this is a mock and I have not taken Genti really all season and I wanted to kind of test out taking him. You want to see what it felt like strategy. My favorite strategy has been doubling up the wide receiver position with. With the last pick in the first round. So I did strongly consider that, but I feel like I've done that before. I toyed with the idea of Brock Bowers too, honestly. He's going to catch a ton of passes, I think, and being in PPR and everything. But I haven't taken Genti really late, so I want to mix it up. I did strongly consider two receivers, though.
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I would have loved that.
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Yeah, I wish you would have done it too.
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It's. It's what. It's what I have. It's what I have typically done. But like I said, it's a mock. You want to try new things, see what the team looks like. Brian Thomas does go with the next pick after I took Genty Welsh takes HN. Then followed up is lad McConkey then Derrick Henry, who I could have also taken with the running back position instead of Genty. But Welsh going back to Europe. Hn, we talked about him a little. Like there are some, you know, injury risk here now with him, but second round just feels like a value.
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Like, listen, I'm. I think there is some more. I should be a little bit more worried about that pick if I was drafting right now. So if your draft is in the next couple days when there's this like, ambiguous, like, you know, hey, like, he's going to be good, but Izzy. And hey, we're talking about Brian Robinson, like, that is scary. But I just want to point out this is a full ppr. Like, a full ppr. If there was no worry, I think of a Chan and the ankle, everything, he would be a first rounder. He should be at the very tippy top as a full ppr. So I'm taking on a little inherent risk. There's a part of me that's looking back and being like, I could have taken Jinty and then I could have at worst gotten A.J. brown. Would that have been better? But a fully healthy Achan, having Puka and a Chan in a full PPR with my first two picks, it's absolutely phenomenal. It's just I have taken on the risk of a quarterback that's falling apart for the wide receiver and a running back that might be falling apart. So I'm going to have to probably play it safe a little bit, but, you know, I'm on the right tracks for ppr.
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It's definitely the riskiest start that anybody has so far. You know, looking across where Brock Bowers does finally go here at the 2 8. Like I said, I considered him early second I think at a PPR like he's just going to catch so many passes. I, I really adore Bowers in the early second. JSN goes here at two of nine. Chase Brown by the way. AJ Brown and Bucky Irving to go also. Yeah. Chase Brown has. Has officially like kind of gotten into the second round here. In most drafts that I'm in, it's. He's no longer a third round pick. So now Jake's on the clock here with the 211. Who are you going to pair with Bijan Tyree Kill.
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That's how I feel about it. I don't know if you heard my exasperated side. That was when Smith and Jimbo went before my pick because especially in full point PPR. But hey, if Hill is anything like he was two years ago, even 95% of it is going to be a decent value. And the reason I did it, I actually thought about doubling into my strength of going with a running back. Being able to know that Scott was only there for two picks and not likely to go rb. Rb. I can still get Josh Jacobs or Kyron on the way back because it's full point.
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Pbr.
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The tiebreak is going to be Jacobs.
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Yeah. So Jacobs, Bijan and Tyreek is your starting three. Bogman, you're starting three so far. Jamar Chase, Jonathan Taylor and Trey McBride. You take the other Titan. I really like Trey McBride if you can get him in the third round.
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Yeah, man, I love this is why I like picking early is to get either McBride or Kittle. I want a top three tight end everywhere I'm drafting this season, specifically in Super Flex or non Super Flex league. So I mean getting Trey McBride here with the first pick in the third round I felt like was a crazy deal. Bowers is kind of falling right now. There's a little question as to how much he's going to be on the field because Mayer has been playing a lot as well. I don't really buy that.
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I want to state unequivocally for the record that I am not worried about that.
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It's. It's just been talked about a little bit. That's all I'm saying. But I have no worry about that. I was hoping he would fall, but I didn't. I didn't expect him.
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Can I say the one thing? I'm with you. I still have Bowers, the top tight end. But the point being for Bowers was that I was never taking him in the second round. And that's just even more reason. It's not that Mayor's playing is that it's the two tight end sense under Carroll and similar to The Days with O.J. howard because Bowers is such a good blocker he's not running the routes and that's, that's the. It's just. It's enough to ding him of like this is why you don't take him in the second round. Is my whole point.
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Understandable? I didn't realize that you were talking about it, Jake. I had not heard about it from you.
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What do you mean that I was talking about? No, I'm saying like this is.
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What are you saying you hate Brock Bowers? Is that the news? Jake Seeley despises Brock in the second.
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I want to highlight the Branham is the name of the user who took Bowers. He also takes Josh Allen. Jake, what do you think about doubling up on the luxury positions of taking an early tight end and also an early quarterback?
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So I'm just going to be grumpy Jake today. Hate it. I will do one or the other. I will take McBride in the third, I'll take Bowers in the third, I'll wait and take Kittle in the fourth. I will take a quarterback in the third or the fourth if it's one of the elites, the one of the elite four. But I'll never do both. And it's not the fact that it can't work. It's just you set yourself up to the point where you're probably going to get that quarterback value over everybody else in your league outside of two or three teams. But now the tight end has to be almost Travis Kelce because of now you sacrifice two, two rounds of running backs and wide receivers and yes, you have an advantage but you're so far behind the eight ball and the other ones that you have to have those amazing seasons. It can work. I'm just never going to do both.
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Welsh, you didn't have an option at one of the top two quarterbacks are both gone. You didn't have an option at one of the top three tight ends. Are you considering one of those or were you always going to go running back?
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Sure was. Absolutely was. Thank you for reminding me warmly. I was looking at Lamar Jackson, I was looking at George Kittle. Kittle went right in front of me. Put myself in a position. I don't hate devonte Adams, but I have Puka. Not sure I wanted my two top wide receivers to be Daniels is there team Daniels is there. I was in a blender there. I was in a complete blender of issues. People might not love this. I passed Kyron and James Cook for Breeze hall, but I just want to come back to it's full ppr. And I know like people are worried about Braylon now and everything, but like Breeze is going to be completely littered in the passing game. I mean, he's going to be put out wide. This is what he's going to be built for. This should be anywhere from five to seven receptions a game. So I mean, I think he's good for this format, but a hundred percent just like snipe snipes. Like it just took away all the strategies. I would have loved to have taken Lamar Jackson like in front of you. It would have made me feel like all warm inside and I just, I couldn't have any of the stuff.
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I, I, I would have taken one of the elite quarterbacks if they got there. And by elite I mean those top two. I do like Daniels and Hertz, but I decided to pass on them. I would have considered one of the tight ends. They didn't get there. Kyron, I have not been taking a lot of, but I felt like at.
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3:12, third round, he was 0.2 behind Achan in points per game. Full PPR, full send. That was the easiest pick you've had.
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Good of a value. Yeah, like, like not again, not, not a typical target, but just too great of a value there. And then I kind of decided since I'd already taken Genti and Kyron that I would just lean into the robust running back here with this, with this mock and see how it turns out. And so I, I took James Cook. The fact that Kyron fell to the last pick of the third round makes me wish I had taken Brian Thomas Jr. With that second pick because then I would have had Kyron as RB1 with two elite running or two elite receivers. So you know, you live and you learn. That's the, that's why we do mocks here. So I take Kyron and James Cook. Travion Henderson goes next, you know, early fourth for the rookie, but he's, he's risen a ton in preseason. And then whilst you do take one of these, these tier one quarterbacks.
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Yep, I sure did. I'm super happy with how this draft is going, guys. Everything is going well. Exactly the plan that I came in here for. Yeah, I'm not looking back and just having any resentment or. Yeah, no, things are going well. I, Jaden Daniels is a fourth rounder, is actually Good. I'm just, I am rethinking that third pick. Had George Kittle just been there. Well, you know, let's go take a look. Let's go take a look at who that awesome person was. Let's give a shout out to Lucha libre for Kittle right in front of me. So just threw me off. I could have had Kittle and Jaden Daniels and everything would have been great. But things are going good.
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Worm, I think. I think Welsh has the team most likely to finish in last if things go wrong because it's a lot of risk, but there's also a lot of upside, too. You just have the very high variance team.
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Do you not like me, Ryan? What happened? Do you not. You're being so rude today.
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You just said you were thinking about taking Lamar in front of me, so of course I, I, you know, we are antagonistic here. Let me read through some of the names that have been taken quickly after Welsh has picked. DJ Moore, Devonte Adams, Alvin Camara, Jalen Hurts, Courtland Sutton, Terry McLaurin, Marvin Harrison Jr. And then Jake. You took DK Metcalf.
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I did. And I snipe Bogs, which I know, it just feels so good. I was actually going to take Terry McLaurin if he got there, but I got taken two picks before that and then Metcalf was still on the board.
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Yeah, two Panthers. So, you know, things are going right for me. Yeah, of course, in this spot, I was like, I have a great wide receiver no matter what. I, you know, Marvin is still there, DK is still there, and Tet was still there. So Tet was the one that fell because it went Marvin, DK to Jake and then me and then Chuba Hubbard. To me, it was between Chuba and James Conner as the last, like, true workhorse backs left on the board. And I just. I do think Connor is a little more injury prone and Trey Benson is breathing down his neck. I really don't think Rico is breathing down Chuba's neck much. So I went ahead and leaned towards Chuba there.
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I couldn't justify taking Tea McMillan with the first pick of the fourth round, but I knew he wasn't going to get back to me, so I. It did. The thought at least did cross my mind because I just. I just want all of the Tedro and McMillan this year. So you go, you double up the Panthers. Jake, you come back in early round five with Calvin Ridley, who is not ranked in this area amongst wide receivers, but I think is a great pick, like I like, because he wasn't going to get back to you. And I think he's just a great value where he's ranked this year.
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Yeah, I know. I already threw out my potential to be the number one ranked team after this, according to the consensus analysis of all that type of stuff. But the fact is, is Calvin Ridley should be a fifth rounder. Calvin Ridley had 120 targets of garbage last year. He had four red zone and one end zone target of garbage last year. And Cam Ward coming in. What is the one thing we've already seen is, like, even if Ridley only catches 55% of his passes because they're big plays downfield, Cam's flinging it downfield and he's connecting because he's great at putting on the spot, I think you're looking at a potential. If he gets 140 targets, Calvin Ridley will be back inside the top 20, maybe even set the top 15.
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I am up here. Welsh, you took Jalen Waddle, who was the player I was eyeing, so thank you very much that you know what we look like.
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By the way, while you're doing this, what's that game? I'm completely forgetting what it's called where, like, you're on the ship and you're those little beans. No, you're the little beans. And, like, there's a killer. And what's that game called? Like, Everyone among us. Among us. We look like among us characters. How did that happen? I'm wearing red. Worm is bright orange. We've got green and black, like, like, I know exactly who I'm going to kill. And he's on your screen. He's above me. But somehow we became characters in this draft.
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Yeah, some of the names that went off in that fifth round, by the way. Devonte Smith, James Connor, Xavier Worthy, Jameson Williams, Joe Burrow, George Pickens, Tony Pollard. That was a good pick. Jalen Waddle to Welsh, RJ Harvey. I took Sam laporta. I just figured, like, late round five, given what we saw as rookie season, I think that's. That's worth it. And then Zay Flowers, who I really have not been taking a lot of, like, honestly, anywhere, I'm not that in on Flowers, but with three strong running backs and already a wide receiver one ahead of him, I didn't want to take a quarterback there. So I decided to take a bit of a floor with, say, Welsh. You took the guy that I actually was considering. I felt like, no, I. Again, it's. It's similar to the Tedro McMillan passing on him, where it's like I know he's not going to get back to me, but I felt like I just couldn't get there. Two picks later you take Ricky Piersol, which I think could pan out really well for you.
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B
I'm completing my tasks as an among us character. I'm completing my tasks and the task was always to get Ricky Pierce all. I absolutely would have taken Z flowers had he come back. My order was Z flowers. No, it was Jaylen Waddle, Zay flowers, Ricky Pierce all. So you took the other guy. Because I went with those early running backs. This really worked out for me to get these guys. So guess what, we're back. We're back. We're back to loving this team. We got the elite quarterback, we got two high end PPR running backs, three wide receivers. Ricky Pearsall, by the way, is still misranked in so many spots as the top guy. So like I don't know if the grades will love me here but task complete.
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A
That, that, that's a very good point that you bring up Welsh about the grades because there are some picks that I've considered making where it's like, well, it's not going to grade well but if I was in a real draft and playing out a season, this is the guy I would want to make sure I get knowing he wouldn't come back to me. So it's a little different way to think about it. Yeah, I think, I think it's a. It's a. I'll give you some credit here because I was harsh too early. You, you pulled it back. You brought it back in other picks being made in the six rounder, she rice went Chris Olave, DeAndre Swift, Travis Hunter, David Montgomery, Isaiah Pacheco. I would have maybe considered him actually at my turn if I didn't have three running backs already. I think, I think Pacheco's really good value. Jerry Judy Mecca, Ibuca who another one I would have loved to have come back to me. Didn't expect it. Jake, were you considering Igbuka or because you did go receiver or were you always going to go with Rome?
- [25:58]
C
I was going to go with Rome if he made it to me. I think he needs to have his name in the conversation of the Pickens and Jameson Williams and Devonte Smiths and Jalen Waddles of the world. If we believe in Caleb Williams, we believe in Ban Johnson. He's going to throw for 4,000 plus yards. Hate to tell everybody but DJ Moore is not catching 3,000 of those yards.
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D
I'm just saying how about 2,000.
- [26:16]
C
Okay, deal.
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A
Bob. Bob, we walk us through your picks here at the turn.
- [26:23]
D
Yeah, I went with Jacoby Myers. You know, I just think he's such a solid floor, specifically in PPR. I do have a little risk with McMillan. And then my next pick was Caleb Johnson. Not a big pass catcher in a PPR league, but I do believe he's going to have a lot of touchdowns and a lot of carry.
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C
Can I ask.
- [26:39]
A
Got a question.
- [26:40]
D
Over 300 touches gone with Naj.
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C
Okay, fine. How do you like your gelato? Straight up. So I just did a little short form with Walsh. We were talking about the Steelers and I thought Jalen Warren was a nice post type sleeper. Mostly because. Because this nonsense of using Kenneth Gainwell. Are you worried at all now? To be clear, Caleb Johnson is going to take the job. It just might take a few weeks. Are you worried that it could be a slow start and people get too quickly disappointed?
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D
I am, yes. I very much am. And because we did this to Chase Brown last year. Right, Right. He was a good comparison year as the guy. He was getting nothing for the first three weeks. He got cut in a lot of leagues. That could happen to Caleb Johnson as well. I don't expect it to. I think this is all kind of veteran positioning, whatever you want to say to kind of motivate your players. But I. It could be annoying initially. Kenneth Gainwell is not a zero. He's definitely not. So Jalen Warren will lead the first like month or so. But I think once you get into those grind your months, it's going to be a lot of Caleb.
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A
Some of the other grinders.
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B
Hoagies and grinders.
- [27:44]
C
Navy beans.
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B
Navy beans.
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D
Meatball sandwich.
- [27:48]
C
Is this. Is this too old for a box now?
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B
No one's gonna.
- [27:52]
A
For a worm.
- [27:52]
C
Worm's the only one.
- [27:53]
A
I did not get the reference. I. I'm laughing because I have no idea where you're talking.
- [27:57]
B
Can you wait, can you just take a guess?
- [27:59]
C
Like, guess who it is?
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B
What you think that could be?
- [28:02]
A
What were I. I hardly was even following what you were saying.
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D
Hoagies and grinders. Hoagies.
- [28:07]
C
Navy beans.
- [28:07]
A
Navy beans.
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D
Meatballs.
- [28:12]
A
It's like a sub shop or something. Is it like you got it? Like. Like a wawa got it.
- [28:17]
D
That's it.
- [28:17]
A
Okay.
- [28:18]
C
Talk about a hole in one. Does that give you. Does that give you a nice hint?
- [28:25]
A
No.
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C
It's Adam Sandler.
- [28:27]
D
Adam Sandler. Come on.
- [28:28]
C
One of his originals.
- [28:30]
A
Oh, gotcha.
- [28:31]
C
He was Lonely island before Lonely island was Lonely Island.
- [28:34]
A
I was born in the 90s. It wasn't exactly like I was watching.
- [28:37]
C
That get off my lawn.
- [28:38]
D
God, look at this guy.
- [28:41]
C
Do you know what's on the screen of this? Like the reason it's a Jurassic Dark arcade screen is because it says it's in the 80s.
- [28:48]
B
Did you ever play like an arcade machine?
- [28:51]
A
Yeah, I've like been to an arcade before.
- [28:53]
B
That's nostalgic though, not like a real one.
- [28:56]
C
No, no, he means the one with the video games, not the arcade which is all those fancy stores inside the middle of the wall with the outside area.
- [29:03]
A
I played like pinball machines before and you know, I've just tried.
- [29:08]
D
It is overrated. Like touching a sticky arcade stick because kids have been spilling their drinks on it all day.
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C
Hey, before we get back to the picks, Testament, it's very nostalgic. One in NBA Jam two on two with a good friend Dane Martinez of ours when my stick was broken and wouldn't run to the right and we still won.
- [29:30]
B
Kaiser trash.
- [29:33]
A
Let me catch up on some things here, please, from that nonsense. In round seven we had TJ Hawkinson, Aaron Jones, Jalen Warren, Stefan Diggs, Khalil Shakir, Travis, Kelsey Jordan Addison, Jordan Mason, who I was considering Welsh, Juwan Jennings, Matthew Golden. I took gold in there. Another player who I don't have a lot of, honestly that's what I'm doing a lot of in this mock is taking players that I like but haven't gotten a lot of. I also took Mark Andrews. Now I know I already had Laporta, but I think that Andrews just in the eighth round is too good of a value. There weren't other players that I love and, and I actually like. I've really come around on Andrews. He was catching a ton of touchdowns once he got healthy like coming back from that car accident in the second half of last season. Isaiah likely is injured. I. I think Andrews is a great pick there.
- [30:15]
D
Would you have skipped Laporta knowing that Andrews is going to be available later?
- [30:18]
A
Yes. I didn't think Andrews would get that far back to me, which is why I took Laporta where I did. I would have skipped him if I thought he would, but there wasn't, you know that many tight ends taken. So again you live and you learn doubling up on tight ends though. Evan Ingram goes right after Andrews and then Welsh. You take somebody who is coming off PUP here but it's still not going to be available at the start of the season. Season.
- [30:40]
B
Did you. Wait, did you take two tight ends that just hit. That just hit Like I was just trying to look and I was like, you got to be kidding me.
- [30:48]
D
Like, I already grilled him for it. But I was pretty nice about it.
- [30:50]
A
Listen, listen, if. If I worry about it, I'm not one of these people who says, oh, if you. You like, you can only take one of these positions. Now If I had McBride or Bowers, yes. I would not have taken a second tight end. There's some risk with laporta and I think Andrews is a very good value in round eight. And also again, I didn't wouldn't love a lot of the other options. It would just be a lot of like, you know, taking swings on guys anyway. So I. I'm happy to get two really good tight ends, both of whom I think have upside and I think I'm doubling my chances of one of them really hitting and being.
- [31:18]
B
I would have loved to have had one. Yeah, no, it would have been great.
- [31:20]
C
I hate the pick. I hate the pick. I understand the reasoning and I respect not saying trade piece in the future. That should never be one of the.
- [31:28]
B
Reasons you take a player. That's where it was going on my pick. What you're mentioning. We just did a video. Jake mentioned earlier that we did a video. You guys can check out that this guy kind of it but I took Chris Godwin. Yes, there's some inherent risk but, but, but, but I want to come back to. This is about a team construction thing and something we talked about. I went heavy running back with a quarterback at the top. I need to make good on the wide receivers and he's my fourth wide receiver while also taking Jordan Mason who can play flex. So I'm putting myself in a position where Godwin can end up being a big massive starter for me over a couple weeks and I don't like need need him right away even though he has set it flex. So this is the ideal situation for a guy like Godwin and why the upside makes a ton of sense is because I can eat a couple of those weeks.
- [32:14]
A
I want to highlight quickly on the double tight end thing. Branham who took Brock Bowers just took David and Joku. That is not a move I would make again if I had one of those elite guys then I'm like much more staunchly against taking the second one. Some of the other names going off your Travis Etien, Zach Charbonnet, Josh Downs, Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, Javante Williams who I do you think he's pretty good pick in the eighth and then Jake, you took Debo Samuel.
- [32:35]
C
Yeah. I clearly got Boggs, but hey, to be fair, Boggs got me back at 901. So we'll put it that way. Like Debo Samuel, like, whether or not McLaurin's there, like, I just don't think we're giving him enough respect for the fact that I bring it up so many times on these shows. 200 targets went to people, not including Terry McLaurin and Zach Ertz last year. And those are only wide receivers, not including the backfield. 200 targets to a bunch of dudes. And now you have Deebo Samuel come in. By the way, breaking news. No, no. If anybody's watched those games, he's not fat and he looks fine.
- [33:06]
A
He looks good.
- [33:08]
C
So Debo Samuel at this point is a tremendous value. But, yes, he got me back with his teammate at 9.01.
- [33:13]
B
I almost took Devo instead of Godwin, by the way. Those are the two I was kind of going back and forth about.
- [33:19]
A
Bogman, you are the one who pulls the trigger here on bill with the 901. Obviously I'm referring to Jakory Crosby. Merit feels like a value, honestly, based on the way the hype give him.
- [33:30]
C
The Dan Quinn news. Yeah, because. Loop that in because I'm curious your thoughts.
- [33:34]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [33:35]
D
We actually, before the show started, we were looking and it sounds like Dan Quinn was asked about the goal line work and Chris Rodriguez was mentioned a bunch of times and Corey Cross camera or Bill Cross gamer was not mentioned at all. So. But this is a PPR league and I think he's going to catch a lot of passes at this point. I think the value was good and obviously Jake got me. I was very upset because I had my sightset on Debo. I was worried about Welsh taking him. He took Chris Godwin, so I was like, maybe he'll fall. But he was top of the board. Nobody else took him. And then you took him one pick in front of me, so that did chat me a little bit. I went with my boy Keon Coleman, who I still really like to catch a lot more balls this year, and he doesn't need to catch a lot to be very productive. So Keon Coleman and then Jacquard Crosby.
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B
I'm gonna get sniped.
- [34:23]
A
I can feel it.
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D
I'm one kick away.
- [34:28]
A
That's all I want. Michael Pittman, Cooper Cup, Joe Mixon. That's nice. Tyler Warren goes. Brian Robinson possibly gonna get traded. Welsh gets his guy. Who is Tucker Kraft here? So another titan off the board. Bo Nicks goes. I was definitely Bo Nick's late ninth. Like I, I'm, I'm waiting on qb.
- [34:46]
C
I was just about to say the entire suggested board is quarterbacks.
- [34:49]
A
I know and I'm gonna pass more because again in a 1 QB league if I'm not getting an elite guy guy, I'm happy to take whoever is like the 15th guy off the board. So it's a three receiver league. MPPR. I think I'm gonna double up on receiver here. I'm gonna take an upside swing on Cedric Tillman who I think has really strong breakout potential here. Especially for as long as Joe Flacco is is quarterbacking the Browns. I want to take another receiver. I'm looking just double checking are there any running backs I want maybe.
- [35:18]
B
Actually I took Tucker Craft by the way because I was very worried that Worm was going to do the, the very illustrious three tight end staff.
- [35:27]
A
You didn't have to worry about that.
- [35:30]
C
I like to fill my bench before my roster.
- [35:33]
A
Yeah, yeah. I gotta go ahead. Tank Bigsby here just getting a guy who could be a starter for what I think will be an improved offense this year in the 10th round. As my fourth running back I'm even though I'm generally not like over the moon about this backfield, I'm comfortable taking Tank. There's there at this point in the graph Quintron Jug kids goes next. Like I just kind of want nothing to do with Judkins.
- [35:56]
C
Still not with the team.
- [35:58]
A
I want to let somebody else take that risk. Yeah, he's not even with the team yet, let alone the off field stuff like that. I will just not be the one riding that roller coaster. Welsh, who are you eyeing here?
- [36:07]
B
Well I was going going to take another guy but I think like having the running backs that I do, it just makes so much sense to take Cam Scatter Boom as a fourth running back here if you get that reference. Just because second half of the year he could be a starter for that team. I know they love Tyrone Tracy. There was another guy I had my sights on the entire time but I kind of pivoted there because like so the projections aren't going to love that. I took Scatterboo over the player I would have taken. But that's like this is coming back to what you were saying like will the system love versus what's the smart play? Scatter Boo playing for the second half of the season. I've got Mason as a third running back. Scatter Booze a four who the second half could be a starter for the Giants. That's That's. That's not wasting your bench, Jake Seeley. That is optimizing your bench.
- [36:53]
A
I wish that Erickson was on this episode so I could get more like spongebob references that I would be on board with as opposed to you guys all. I'm not gonna say how old you guys are, but, you know, do we.
- [37:05]
C
Need to throw out some Lulu Wamba or whatever that show Is that designed for kids to not look away? What the heck is the name of that show?
- [37:11]
B
Luluwamba.
- [37:13]
C
I don't know. Whatever. It's the. Go look at it. It's the one where they actually had kids watch two different TVs and every time they looked. Cut that scene from those.
- [37:21]
A
Really?
- [37:22]
C
Yeah, to make sure kids stay paying attention.
- [37:26]
B
Anybody?
- [37:28]
A
Coco Melon or something like that?
- [37:29]
C
Yeah, yeah, that one. Cocoa Mel. Is that the. Or is it Lululemon? No, that's the clothing.
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A
I don't know. I. I have three nephews who definitely watch tv, but I couldn't tell you what the shows are themselves. Zach Prescott goes here in the 10th round. I think that's a great later on pick. Honestly, I probably would have taken him if he got back to me. I think Dak is an awesome, awesome them late round QB this year we're get. We're into the round where folks are like kind of into their benches for the most part. You know, like Braylon Allen is gone. Trey Benson, Jaden Higgins, good pick here. Some of the elder guys too. Christian, Kirk, Austin Eckler, Jake, you take Demario Douglas here. By the way, are there any, you know, players or any teams I should say that you guys think are doing a particularly good job? Like besides your own, Are there any rosters so far that you guys are really impressed with? Anybody's Bill, whoever you see, you can shout it out.
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C
Besides mine, Is that what you said?
- [38:17]
A
Besides the guy on the.
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D
Not the guy on the other end. That's for sure.
- [38:21]
C
There's some Gibroni who took two tight ends already.
- [38:26]
D
Listen, I think Bunting has got a pretty good squad he's putting together.
- [38:29]
A
Yeah, Bunting, who just took back, like I mentioned, I think he's doing good. And pairing Dak with CD Lamb.
- [38:34]
C
Of course. I like whoever started. Nico Collins, Brian Thomas, Hampton Henderson, Harvey Rice. You can wait. On the upside, Jennings, you can wait. It gets a little. Yeah, yeah, it gets dicey at wide receiver. But those running backs all catch passes, which is good.
- [38:47]
A
Honestly. I really like that too. Because even if it's dicey at the depth of. Of receiver, they have an elite two and he pairs Evan Ingram with Bo Nix in the eighth and ninth round. So I. I'm with you. I think. I think he's having a great draft too. Bogman, you take Nick Chubb and Wondale Robinson with your two picks here.
- [39:04]
B
I wanted Wondell so bad, I'm so mad at myself. I passed up Scatter Boo for Wanda.
- [39:09]
C
Full so you can get wide receiver 40 on 150 targets. Cool.
- [39:14]
B
Yeah. 95 catches in full PPR.
- [39:16]
D
I'll take that as a fifth wide receiver. So.
- [39:21]
A
Yeah.
- [39:21]
D
And he. In the preseason it's just been mentioned that he's been playing a little bit more outside so he might be on the field a bit more. And if you become one of.
- [39:29]
C
He'll never get open.
- [39:30]
D
Russell Wilson. Yeah. Well, listen, on the field I'm just looking for volume. Jake, I know you hate him, but.
- [39:38]
C
I'm just gonna say this. Throwing out the players who didn't at least play half the season and you can tell that I still love to hate on the Giants. So this is why I know this off the top of my head. He was still in full point PPR. He was still only wide receiver 45 on 140 targets. Like how does it get better is my question.
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D
Well, I don't know that it doesn't have to get better.
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C
Okay.
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D
But if that stays.
- [40:02]
C
And that's fair, I'll give you that.
- [40:04]
B
Yeah.
- [40:05]
A
Yeah.
- [40:05]
D
If it's. If it stays close to the same, I'm getting a good value here. Do I expect it to? No. But we've seen it happen before. And this is I believe which wide receiver for this is me. Is it. This is my fourth. Fifth. That's my fifth wide receiver.
- [40:20]
C
Okay.
- [40:20]
D
Total Millen, Jacoby, Keon Coleman and Wanda. So. And I needed a little more reception upside after taking Keon Coleman.
- [40:28]
A
Okay, I'm up here. I took another receiver in Marvin Mibs. So I'm trying to get some of these high upside like potential breakouts like Tillman and Mims. I think I will find. I mean there's so many quarterbacks still available. Like I don't really want to wait till my final pick to take them because I know they're going to start going here. So I think I'm just going to take the guy who's been really my favorite the whole year and that's Drake May just like as a pure upside. Like I think there's a world. It's. I'm not saying it's likely but I think there's a world where he's a tier one quarterback this year. That's how strongly I believe in him and the rushing ability, the floor and the ride. So, so get getting him in the 12th round. I'm very, very comfortable having waited on quarterback there.
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C
If he runs 7, 800 yards, run 6, 7, 8 touchdowns on top of that, he's going to be inside the top 10. Just even throwing 2800 yards and 20 touchdowns. It's not going to take anything for him to get there with that kind of rushing upside.
- [41:14]
A
Yeah, he's my single favorite quarterback pick you can make outside of the elite guys here. Justin Fields goes right after. Obviously there's rushing with him as well. Similar argument to be made. Well, you do not go with a young guy. You go with an elder statesman here. Yep.
- [41:30]
B
An elder statesman who knows exactly who Adam Sandler is.
- [41:34]
A
I was gonna say he knows all the references you guys have been throwing.
- [41:37]
B
He knows him, he's with it. Yeah. So I took. Well first, not him, but I took Rasheed Shahid and then I took Keenan Allen. Double tap on the receivers. Yeah, I mean I guess you could argue like the one thing you want to do is you want to play like massive upside but also just like again coming back and I've been harping like in full PPR like, like guys that are going to just get some volume. Yes. You may be lacking a little bit in like whether it's a touchdown or yard department but if Ken Allen gets five or six catches a game, like I, I've got like a floor of points so I think he's a floor. And the other reason behind why I like taking Shaheed for the big play possibility and Keenan Allen is it's just a little bit more protection because my upside play is Chris Godwin. That's mine. Everyone's like, oh, I'm going to take the rookie. Mine is, is Chris Godwin. And if I can weather the storm for four weeks, I'm getting a potential number one wide receiver back who I as my wide receiver. 4. So I'm just figuring out the players. I can kind of weather the storm. I've got great depth at running back so I'm pretty happy with it. There's just, you know, there's a clear delineation between like here's the little handful of players with the really big upside. Here's some floor players. And what fits best for your strategy?
- [42:44]
A
Bogman. You finally take a quarterback, you take two of them. A couple of second year players.
- [42:49]
D
Yeah, I went and doubled up on Caleb Williams and J.J. mcCarthy here. And you know, waiting to take a quarterback can be costly. I have messed this up in multiple mocks. Welsh has seen me do it. But I think I did it pretty well here, waiting. I didn't wait till the very, very end to take a quarterback where a lot of people are starting to take a second just in case, stuff like that. I went ahead and I took double upside with Caleb and J.J. mcCarthy. I think they're both very good options and, you know, now I can kind of flip back and forth and if one doesn't make it, hopefully the other one does.
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A
Kyle Pitts. Jake, I. I have no comments. I mean, 13th route, obviously, like, it's, you know, certainly later than he's gone. A receipt for those of you that.
- [43:32]
D
Are listening on the podcast. Jake is putting on clown makeup.
- [43:35]
A
Yeah, I mean, like, it's going back to the well, but at the same time it's also not because, like, the downside is clearly baked in. You're getting him in the 13th round.
- [43:42]
C
Your game, 13th round, almost free. You're getting somebody that. Yeah, we've made excuses for him now three times in a row, three seasons in a row since his rookie. But even before the Mooney situation, he had a chance to be the number two for Michael Penix. And if Michael Penix is going to be like Matthew Stafford and throw for 4,000 yards plus and get all this excitement about his arm, people are going to have to benefit. And now we get reports from Raheem Morris and he's like, yeah, we hope to have Mooney this year. What the hell is this year? Seriously? So how are we not in on a Kyle if I miss in the 13th round on Kyle Pitts and then I have to go chase Brenton Strange or Kincaid still out there because he's getting split all the time. Actually, Kincaid went right after my pick. But there's other options, too. Like you could look at a conqueror maybe getting in the mix if he's the answer, the number two is nobody steps up for the Titans, even though I don't believe that's going to happen. Hunter Henry might be the most productive in a PPR stance for the entire crew outside of the Patriots at demario Douglas. So there's options if it doesn't work. But I'm going to take the chance at this point for somebody we're top 5 upside even if he busts yet again.
- [44:47]
A
I will tell you this, if he had gotten back to me for the bit, I would have taken Pits as.
- [44:51]
C
My third tight end just for the Things you should.
- [44:55]
B
Yeah, you could.
- [44:55]
D
Two things. Number one, that sounded like the guy that sends you the trade offer and gives you a whole paragraph right before he sends it.
- [45:02]
C
This is why you should say should I have included four players for one.
- [45:05]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [45:07]
D
Also I just drafted Kyle Pitts in a real job. I. I am kidding of course. Jake, I think all of these points that you made are valid. But it is. You know, people are mad at Kyle Pitts. It's not. It's not going away anytime soon unless he puts together a great year.
- [45:21]
C
Hey, should I start writing the 2026 version of why you should give Pitts one more chance?
- [45:27]
D
One more.
- [45:28]
C
Just. Just have it in the folder. Ready to go.
- [45:30]
D
I swear.
- [45:32]
A
Yeah.
- [45:32]
D
Yeah.
- [45:33]
A
Talking about, you know, some running back uncertainty in Miami. I'll take Ollie Gordon here. This is Gordon.
- [45:39]
C
Get that far.
- [45:41]
A
Yeah, that was.
- [45:42]
D
He was in my queue because I.
- [45:43]
A
Have Drake May and there is some uncertainty. I will double up at quarterback. I don Jared Goff this year. I mean get. There's so many good. This is the last round and Jordan love. Trevor Lawrence, C.J. stroud, Bryce Young. I like Michael Penck. I like. I could. I could take Pennock and pair him up with London but I'm going to just gonna. Man, I really like and love all this late. I think I'll go ahead and just take Love who I think is going to throw a lot more this year if he's you know, not dealing with multiple injuries the way he did last year. And I'm just really a big believer offense in general. So I'm. I'm very happy in the 12th and 14th rounds to have Drake May and Jordan Love and have Those be my 2/4 quarterbacks. I'm very comfortable with that. I wanted to point out not to throw him under the bus but Branham took Justin Herbert. He. He has Brock Bowers and Josh Allen. Yeah, he took a second tight end and a second quarterback. That's a. That's an approach that I don't love as much because you're.
- [46:29]
C
He needs to read the article Justin Herbert over Josh Allen about wasting your bench.
- [46:32]
A
Waste of a bench. It is exactly. Because you are never under the bus.
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C
You don't if you draft elites and this is only the top four quarterbacks. Maybe top five with Burrow. Actually yeah. I would include Burrow and then top three tight end. Do not draft the second one because you are never benching that person like you're by. Okay, cool. Go pick up somebody when the buy rolls around. And for the people that are like, well if they get hurt, you're screwed either way. You drafted the elite for the advantage if they get hurt. It's not like you're replicating that so people act like the one time out of 10, actually 50 like Baker Mayfield last year that it happened. You're not guaranteeing that your backup plan is going to be Baker Mayfield like that type of production.
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The thing I thought about doing was going like Will Shipley because the pick before that I took Isaac Garendo. Like how does the McCaffrey owner not take Garendo? I don't. I'm not really not sure why they did that. So I jumped on it. I kind of thought about taking Will Shipley in the same respect of like the Saquon Barkley thing. I didn't love the depth that was there and I got to tell you, I frankly thought that Jared Goff was just like a such a tier above the quarterbacks that were left. Even though I had Daniels that instead it had got. I do had taken golf I would have just been like oh I'm just going to, you know I'll play the waiver wire if I ever need a bye week thing. But I I feel that golf is just steps above even. I think you took love, Cam Ward, Pennocks that are out there so in that situation jumped on it. But I'd gotten sniped. I wanted Kyle Williams around before so a couple of the pieces that I really really liked had went but Garendo and Goff, you gotta finish it out.
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Before we analyze the draft here for a couple of minutes and get out of here, I want to let everybody know about our AJ Brown helmet giveaway this month. If you want a chance to win a Signed AJ Brown Eagles Salute to service helmet for free courtesy of our friends@pristineauction.com all you have to do is subscribe to the Fantasy Pros YouTube channel right now. Drop a comment below on any video and that is it. We will be announcing a winner right here on the channel, so make sure to turn on those notifications so you can know when new videos are are up and to claim your prize. Guys, let's check out how we did. One of the cool things I like about doing mock drafts with Fantasy Pros is you can really get into the nitty gritty with the analysis. You can see projected standings, positional ranks, expert opinions, steals and reaches, pick analysis, team strengths, all that fun stuff. Looking at how we did. Jake Seeley is Projected to finish third. Scott Bogman projected to finish seventh. Welsh projected to finish 11th. We don't need to say where I'm projected to finish.
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I think there was somebody that said I would be the one worst. I'm the second worst.
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But you're the worst if things go poorly. If things go poorly, you would be last place.
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You're the worst Sussy.
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Yeah. If things go normal.
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Worm is in Bunting coming in first, which we kind of clocked during that draft that he was having a really excellent draft. So I'm. I'm not surprised to see that projection from here. Looking at some expert opinions on mine. Matt Harmon really likes my draft. Brandon Funston likes my draft. Your. Your colleague. There's Jake. So just that's. Those are some of the guys to stand out here that liked my draft. Looking at the expert opinions. I got a C minus, by the way, which I think is actually a pretty fair grade. I mean, you try some stuff on Max, sometimes it work, sometimes it doesn't. You know, I, I don't regret trying something new. I, I will say, and I want to ask you guys all this. As far as like a biggest regret for me, it's not actually this. The, the double tight end. It's something that led to that happening. I do regret taking Genti. I wish I had taken Brian Thomas Jr. Because if I had had then at that Sam Laporta spot, I would have been comfortable taking a third running back. I really liked Pacheco there. I would have done that instead of Laporta and then I would have had just the one tight end later with Andrew. So kind of a cascading effect there. You see the domino of like one pick then affects what you did at this spot and then what you did at the next one. So I do regret taking Genti. I'm happy I tried it out, but I wish I had stuck to my gun. Hey, Worm doubled up on receiver.
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Does it show you? Because one of the things on the insights that's really cool is they say what is if. Does your what if give you that scenario? Is that what it lays? Because it'll say like. Like on mine it says what if I had drafted Devonte Adams at 43 and not taken Jane to Daniels, I'd have scored 50 points higher, which would have put me around eighth place, but I would have had two wide receivers on the same team. Is your. Does your what if happen to Highlight the Sam LaPorta double tight end thing?
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It does highlight. It says if I take a DeAndre Swift instead of LaPorta, then I would be about 44 points higher. Higher. Now, that doesn't necessarily take into consideration the fact that. That I already had three running backs. But another one of my, you know what if picks is if I had gone Brian Thomas Jr. Instead of Genti and then later on I could have taken, you know, Travis etn it suggests instead of Matthew Gold. And some options like that would have also moved me up. Let's see. Would have moved me up to at least higher than Welsh up until.
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I've never seen that one.
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Oh, you know what? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You said the what if. Yes. The what if is looking at DeAndre sit. If you go to the pick analysis, though, it gives you a bunch of different. Like how it would have affected your score. I'm glad you called that out. It's good for anybody who's looking at the analysis for the first time. The what if is just one. But if you click over to the pick analysis tab, it'll give you a bunch of different ones where you could have swapped two picks.
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Yeah, my. Mine's drunk.
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And see how you did.
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Mine's like you would have got 31 points higher if you swap T. Higgins and Tajie Spears for Jacobs and demario Douglas. But that would throw Tracy into my lineup up and no. Yeah, there's no way on earth.
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Mine says I would have been 45 points higher if I had taken Michael Pittman at the 9 1. The thing that it doesn't consider is that at the 9:1, I took Bill Crosby Merritt and I wouldn't have gotten to see that look on. The stupid look on Jake's face.
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Well, and this, this is a really.
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Maybe 45 points that would have pushed me to second, but I wouldn't have gotten that look.
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It's a really good example, Bogman, of why Real time ADP is a valuable feature of fantasy pros because Bill would not have gotten to your next pick even if the ratings haven't quite caught up to that yet. Real time ADP would show that he is flying up draft boards and that was a necessary pick for you. So again, just to shout out that as a tool that I think everybody should go check out. I know Welsh mentioned it earlier. Yeah, Welsh, any kind of other thoughts? Just like wrapping up your draft and stuff that maybe you wish you had done differently or stuff that you liked about trying out anything new on this.
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Mock yeah, like I said, I think I'm getting dinged a little bit by like some things not being up. Like Ricky Piersol is a three. Like listen, here's my starters. Jaden Daniels with Devon H and Breeze Hall. My wide receivers are Puka Jalen Waddle, Ricky Piersol. Chris Godwin is a flex or Jordan Mason, Tucker Kraft as my tight end. I got a strong bench. I think this is a strong team. I like it. I think I'm getting dinged a little bit. But like I I was having some regrets of like the Breeze hall thing. Maybe I do take a Kyron Williams. I have a better touchdown equity that's that's in there. Maybe that also maybe flipping the first round where I had taken. I'd maybe taken Genti and then come back down and gotten one of those wide receivers. I mentioned before, the Genti AJ Brown build could have been interesting and might have altered a little bit what I've done. But I do feel that like I like what I did with wide receiver later on and the upside of Godwin. But I just think there are some things that are not being accounted for. And then as far as my insights by the way, way Stephen Thomason, all my loves were solid. They were all A's. I did not get a single F by the way, even though I was second to last. So all the dislikes were in the D department and every single one of them revolved around devonh. So there's people that did not like Devon H and maybe due to the injury that put me down. But yeah it gave me a C. I think this is like a B minus. So I'm not trying to be like oh my God I love my team but it's like I like it better than I got graded for. I think this is a middle of the pack team with a little bit of risk. So yeah there's there's a couple situations I think I could have. I could have altered. But again I'm. Do I. I've been really at the top half of drafts a lot and that's why I want. And this, these experiments are so great because I can really start to play around with a few of my big drafts coming up if I do end up getting like a wheel spot and what would have been better And I, and I think I've already laid out like a scenario or two based off of what I did that could have altered like the path of my draft and just, just like if I wasn't getting sniped so much. Like good lord, like no tight ends. You're taking seven of them. You're getting all the quarterbacks going before me. It was just like you, you sometimes you can't even prepare and that's why mocking is so great.
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I, I did get multiple Fs. So we're not, we're not going to give those people at the, you know, dignity of me reading their names. Yeah. Quickly. Just my kind of final thought and I'll toss the Bogman and Jake for their final thoughts and we'll get out of here here. I really like the running backs in the 3, 4 range. I should have trusted that in this and I'm glad I tried it out. I wanted to see. It was like getting that running back early like I said. But I think if I'm picking late in a real draft, I will stick with. With what I wanted to and double up at receiver because I mean look at this group of five running backs that went in the end of the third, early fourth. Bree Hall, Marion Hampton, Kyron Williams, James Cook, Travon Henderson. Sometimes Kenneth Walker falls there too. He didn't in this one. I will be so thrilled to take any of those pair of players if I'm pairing them up with. With an elite couple of receivers as well. So picking late, I think just stick with the receiver receiver build and I would be much, much happier than the way this one panned out. Bogman, what are your kind of final thoughts? Any takeaways from your team before we get out of here?
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Yeah, I really like the way that this team played out for me here. Even drafting next to a shark like Jake, I feel pretty nice about the build. You know, my running backs are solid. JT Chuba Hubbard, Caleb Johnson, Bill Crosby, Merritt, Nick Chubb as my favorite who you know, this Joe Mixon thing looks like it's going to linger into the season. I got two strong quarterbacks in Caleb and McCarthy, lots of upside there. My wide receivers are Chase McMillan, Myers, Keon, Coleman, Wandale, Malik, Washington. I mixed a little floor with a little risk there. And Trey McBride is the number two tight end in fantasy. I really like the way this team fell to me and this is a similar build to what I will do going into the regular stuff.
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Jake, any final thoughts? Yeah.
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I didn't take a quarterback in round 12 with Joshua Palmer just because I wanted to push and make a point there just to see how it worked out. Normally I would if that was the last three rounds. If he was 14 and not 16, it'd be a different story. But this was 14 and I probably would have normally not taken Palmer and then my last three picks would have been because I didn't have a tight end yet. I would have double tapped quarterback. I would have went like what Boggs did. Williams, McCarthy even straddles a bounce back. Trevor Lawrence if he finally, finally break out, love to stay healthy and bounce back. I would have double tapped. The upside guys that could get top 10. I'm just never going to take like a Justin Herbert and be like cool, I got quarterback 15. Yay. Like I don't want quarterback 15. So that's the only thing I would do differently. But I wanted the point still being I still waited to the very, very, very, very, very end and got C.J. stroud who could bounce back and be inside the top 10. It would have to all be with his arm. But the big side about it is that if you look at it with Bijon Gibbs or Bijan, not Gibbs, B John and Jacobs. And then he'll Metcalf Ridley. My flex is a Dunze Tracy Debo, J.K. dobbins or DeMario. It's like glorious riches. Yeah.
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I just, yeah. The final round quarterbacks that went Jordan Love, Jared Goff, Trevor Lord, C.J. stroud. That's pretty remarkable. Now we only did 14 rounds, but.
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That and that won't be everybody's typical draft, which is why I bring it up to know who you're drafting against. I know that quarterbacks are going to continue to fall in a draft like this.
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Yeah. All right, well, so I know you got to get out of here so we'll go ahead and wrap things up here. Thanks everybody for tuning in. Thanks to our listeners for participating in the mock shouts to Bonting, who of course is a regular on Discord Court for really dominating this draft. He did did a great job by the way. Just to read his draft that, that did so well. Some of these early picks. CD Lamb, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Kenneth Walker, Terry McLaren, James Connor, Jerry Judy. He took Dak Prescott Lee. He took Javonte Williams, who I like. So really Seattle heavy, really Dallas heavy. And it panned out well for, for Bunting. So shouts to. Shouts to our guy there and shouts to all of you for listening. For Bogman and Jake and Welsh, I'm Ryan Wormley. We'll see you again next time. Time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast. If you love the show, the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on apple podcasts@fantasypros.com review or on Spotify. Follow us on X Instagram and TikTok Antasypros and subscribe to our YouTube channel@YouTube.com fantasypros hi, it's Honey German and I'm back with season two of my podcast, Gracias. Come again. We got you. When it comes to the latest in music and entertainment with interviews with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition. No, I didn't audition. I haven't auditioned in, like, over 25 years. Oh, wow. That's a real G talk right there. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about all that's viral and trending with a little bit of Cheeseman and a whole lot of laughs. And of course, the great Bibras you've come to expect. Listen to the new season of Gracias. Come again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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