2026 NFL Draft Rounds 2-3 Reactions: Fantasy Football Impact (Ep. 2003)

Summary

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2026 NFL Draft Rounds 2-3 Reactions: Fantasy Football Impact (Ep. 2003)

Release Date: April 25, 2026
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Format: Roundtable Draft Reaction & Fantasy Football Analysis
Key Hosts/Analysts: Seth Woolcock, Derek Brown, Fitz, Bogman, Erickson, Worm

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Episode Overview

This episode offers comprehensive, real-time reactions and deep analysis to day two of the 2026 NFL Draft (Rounds 2 and 3) from a fantasy football lens. The roundtable of FantasyPros experts break down every headline pick, lament questionable draft decisions, debate landing spots' impact on rookie fantasy value, and guide listeners on how to adjust their Dynasty and redraft strategies in light of these moves.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. San Francisco 49ers’ Surprise – Deshaun Stribling (WR, Ole Miss)

• [01:35] The Bombshell Pick:
  • Seth: “It is a shocker. Ole Miss wide receiver Deshaun Stribling.”
  • The group is stunned by Stribling’s selection at the beginning of round 2; consensus had him as a round 3-4 prospect.
• [02:14] Derek Brown:
  • “He’s okay, but he sure as hell is not worth going in the second round … this is an idiotic pick. … NFL double counting speed. This is what we're talking about. Running a 4.3.4.”
• [03:18] Bogman:
  • “He was wide receiver 17 on [the consensus], behind Lance Bell, Field, Surat, Williams…”
• Consensus: Overdrafted due to combine hype; fantasy impact likely minimal given skill set and current WR room.

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2. Cleveland Browns Reload WR Corps: Denzel Boston (Washington) & Casey Concepcion (Texas A&M)

• [05:36] Seth:
  • “Now not only do you have Denzel Boston on this offense, you got Casey C[eption], two rookies, Jerry Jeudy… feels very crowded.”
• [06:54] Derek Brown:
  • “The Browns are crushing this draft, man… remaking your wide receiver room. Now you are leading the—Like, they are setting up… whoever the quarterback is.”
• [07:09] Worm:
  • “When you look at Shador Sanders in a fantasy lens, like, he gets a little intriguing if he wins that starting job with some of these pieces.”
• [08:37] Worm on Denzel Boston:
  • “He’s better than given credit for. Got the potential to be a true number one receiver… 6’4”, 212 pounds… prototypical X.”
• Dynasty Advice: Both Boston and Concepcion rocket up rookie rankings; the offense has depth but might cut into each other's ceilings slightly. Boston gets high praise as a true “X” receiver.
• [10:03] Worm:
  • “Denzel Boston, let’s say at 40 receptions… I’m taking the over. Casey Concepcion, 40 receptions, taking the over. Hitting that all day long.”

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3. Pittsburgh Steelers’ WR Pick: Jeremy Bernard (Alabama)

• [10:49] Seth:
  • “Wide receiver out of Alabama here, Jeremy Bernard… interesting run for Bernard… he really was that 1A option to Ty Simpson.”
• [11:18] Derek Brown:
  • “Not… the prospect profile for round two… strong WR3 for your depth chart… if he didn’t go to Alabama, would he be a day two pick?”
• [12:23] Worm:
  • “Played the Amon-Ra St. Brown role… fits in as a compliment to DK Metcalf and Michael Pittman Jr. … but I don’t know if he’ll be that number one receiver.”
• Fantasy Relevance: Consensus sees Bernard as more real-life useful than fantasy relevant; upside is limited in a crowded WR room.

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4. Philadelphia Eagles: Eli Stowers (TE, Vanderbilt)

• [15:51] Erickson:
  • “Vanderbilt own Eli Stowers to the Philadelphia.”
• [16:01] Derek Brown:
  • “Eli Stowers, tight end one in rookie ranks. Yes.” -[16:52] Erickson:
  • “The only reason I felt more comfortable with Sadiq was I knew he was gonna be a first round pick … Round two guys really need the nuts … most of the time as a second round pick.”
• [18:37] Erickson:
  • “I feel way more comfortable about … Stowers locked and loaded, potential tight end one in this offense with Devonte Smith, McKay Lemon.”
• Dynasty Advice: Both Stowers and Sadiq are in good spots long-term—Stowers especially with Philly’s TE-friendly offense and soon-to-be open role.

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5. Head-Scratcher TE Picks: Birken Hiker (Texas A&M – Jaguars), Marlon Klein (Michigan – unknown), Max Claire (Ohio State – Rams)

• [22:32] Erickson on Birken Hiker:
  • “New worst pick of the draft. Is this A&M TE?”
• [24:52] Chat Reminder (DBro):
  • “Didn’t even make my top 100 of skill position players.”
• [27:17] Seth:
  • “Marlon Klein… I do not have Klein ranked in my rookie rankings. … Tight end 17 [for Derek Brown].”
• [30:05] Seth on Max Claire to the Rams:
  • “If you had any hope for, you know, a tight end, three in this class to be happy about…”
• [30:22] Derek Brown:
  • “I just, you [already have] wide receivers on the board. You need a wide receiver. You drafted Terrence Ferguson last year.”
• General Take: Many TEs selected in this range are unlikely to be fantasy useful, and most picks are seen as significant reaches.

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6. Notable Quarterback Selections

• [35:04] Host:
  • “Carson Beck is the third quarterback off the board here, going to the Cardinals.”
• [35:52] Fitz:
  • “I just don’t like the direction the franchise is going … this is sort of quarterback purgatory… he’ll probably get an audition but…”
• [47:01] Bogman:
  • “So, I mean… Ferguson, Parkinson, I mean, they still feel… Is Higby there? … Ferguson was my ticket for next year.”
• [54:39] Fitz on Drew Aller to the Steelers:
  • “Oh my God.”
• [55:04] Host:
  • “I’m not surprised you hate this, Bogman. … For those who maybe haven’t seen some of our earlier shows … why you hate this pick so much?”
• [55:23] Bogman:
  • “Because Drew Aller sucks. … Statue. … Not a good quarterback.”
  • No fantasy optimism for Aller even in SuperFlex.

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7. More Impact WR Picks and DBro Dynasty Rankings Debate

• [41:48] Commanders select Antonio Williams (WR, Clemson):
  • Fitz: “I like it a lot. … Four-year producer at Clemson.”
• [43:09] Bogman:
  • “Would you want Ty Simpson or Antonio Williams?”
  • Fitz: “Oh, Ty Simpson.”
  • Late first to early second round value for Williams in rookie drafts.
• [57:00] Falcons pick Zachariah Branch (WR):
  • “Slot merchant, not a huge fan for fantasy. Late second round rookie pick at best.”
  • Fitz: “I’m still gonna have all those guys ahead of Zachariah Branch.”
• [59:13] Ravens take Jacoby Lane (WR):
  • “Big, red zone guy, but not a dynamic, high-separation receiver. Fantasy ceiling limited.”
• [61:55] Panthers select Brazil (WR):
  • “Steps into a crowded room, likely third/fourth in pecking order. Late second round fantasy value, less clear than Antonio Williams.”
• [66:09] Buccaneers select Ted Hurst (WR):
  • “Vertical guy, but crowded depth chart. Not a preferred fit for fantasy.”

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8. Dynasty Takeaways and Rookie Rankings Adjustments

• [58:54] Fitz:
  • “I think [Branch] is still going to be late seconds.”
• [66:36] Bogman:
  • “I can’t believe the Miami Dolphins took Caleb Douglas of all these wide receivers… do we have to move him into the third round [of rookie drafts] because of this? … I probably won’t.”
• General theme: Draft capital matters, but poor fits and crowded depth charts keep many ‘name’ picks outside of Day 2 from soaring up rookie boards.

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9. Fantasy Winners, Losers & Trends

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Browns Drafting Two WRs
  • [06:54] Seth: “The shores of Lake Erie gotta be buzzing right now. … Browns double dip at another skill position.”
• On Overdrafted Prospects
  • [03:01] Derek Brown: “Dude, why draft him at the top of the freaking second round?”
• On the TE Drafting Frenzy
  • [22:38] Derek Brown: “Gladstone might be quietly one of the worst GMs in all football. Tell me I’m wrong here, boys.”
• On Tight End Rankings
  • [27:37] Derek Brown: “Marlon Klein was TE17 for me. … Only watched and ranked 21 guys, for what it’s worth.”
• On Fantasy Application
  • [32:00] Derek Brown: “Why would the Rams need to do this? … You really felt like tight end four on the damn depth chart was something you needed to address in round two?”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:35 — 49ers shock with Deshaun Stribling pick; instant analysis
• 05:36 — Browns add Denzel Boston; offense “getting crowded”
• 10:49 — Steelers select Jeremy Bernard; questions about upside
• 15:51 — Eli Stowers to Eagles; debate over “Rookie TE1”
• 22:32 — Jags reach on TE Nate Birken Hiker; expert takes
• 35:04 — Carson Beck to Cardinals; landing spot and fantasy outlook
• 41:48 — Commanders select Antonio Williams; value discussion
• 54:39 — Steelers take Drew Aller; heated reaction
• 57:00 — Falcons opt for Zachariah Branch; fantasy ceiling debate
• 61:55 — Panthers grab Brazil; rookie draft value chat
• 66:09 — Bucs add Ted Hurst; instant reactions

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The roundtable’s tone oscillates between incredulity (at teams’ reaches and overdrafts), optimism (for offenses that reloaded skill positions smartly), and practical Dynasty advice. There’s humor and personality, especially for the more jaw-dropping picks (“He was last in line for brains.” – Fitz on Drew Aller, [55:54]).

Key Fantasy Themes:

• Don’t blindly follow draft capital in rookie drafts; context and landing spot matter as much—or more.
• Multiple “double” skill-position drafts (Browns, Eagles) create both opportunity (rising tides) and risk (target splits).
• The 2026 rookie class is deep and full of wild cards; expect rankings to keep evolving.

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Dynasty Rookie Draft Cheat Sheet — Immediate Movers

Stock Up:

• Denzel Boston (CLE)
• Casey Concepcion (CLE)
• Eli Stowers (PHI, especially in TE-premium)
• Antonio Williams (WAS)

Stock Down or Cautious:

• Deshaun Stribling (SF)
• Jeremy Bernard (PIT)
• Most second-tier TEs (overdrafted, unlikely impact)
• Drew Aller (PIT, avoid even in superflex)

Late-Round Park:

• Zachariah Branch (ATL), Jacoby Lane (BAL) — “only if the WR board dries up”

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Conclusion

If you missed the pod, here’s the gist:
Day Two of the 2026 NFL Draft was full of surprises, team reaches, and reshuffling. The Browns and Eagles impressed by aggressively retooling offenses, while the 49ers, Jaguars, and Rams left experts scratching their heads on several picks. For fantasy football, the episode provides audience members with nuanced context to adjust rookie rankings—beyond just draft capital—leaning into talent and opportunity for both redraft and dynasty formats.

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[Join the FantasyPros Day Three wrap-up stream and follow updated Dynasty rankings for more analyses and Q&A.]

Transcript

[Host]

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[Seth Woolcock]

Seth Woolcock here and welcome into our day two coverage of the 2026 NFL Draft going down in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And if day one was any indication, expect the unexpected. We already saw the Los Angeles Rams stun the world and become the topic of conversation by selecting Alabama Crimson Tide trigger man ty Simpson at 13 overall. We also earlier in the night saw Jeremiah Love find a new home in Arizona, much to the chagrin of Tyler Al year managers everywhere. Next up, we're diving into rounds two and three to see what kind of depth this class has really got under the hood. Last night our team of experts and I broke down the fallout of every fantasy relevant pick live on the Fantasy Pros YouTube [e-mail] fantasy pros. Keep it locked in here to see what we had to say. I think you also have Niners to take a wide receiver in general, right?

[Derek Brown]

Yes, we did talk about that. We did talk about that. I think we got that of like plus 400 or plus 300. We gave it out on the show. So I mean if they take a wide receiver here, I mean. Yahtzee, bro. Yahtzee.

[Seth Woolcock]

Okay. And we have the pick in and boys, it is a shocker. Oh my goodness, it is. Ole Miss wide receiver Deshaun Stribling.

[Fitz]

What?

[Seth Woolcock]

This is a play

[Erickson]

to you.

[Seth Woolcock]

A couple weeks ago when we were doing I think maybe a sleeper episode because he had a really nice combine. This a guy, Boggs. You know how good he was kind of late in the season for Trinidad Shambliss down there. Pete golden and company.

[Erickson]

So.

[Seth Woolcock]

So Debra, I'll hand it over to you first. Is this the worst pick you've seen in the draft that your jaw's a little bit on the floor? What is the sentiment here?

[Derek Brown]

I like stribling but dude, he's got some death. Like, I mean you're talking about rack and str linear player. Like it's run after the catch. Like I. They have to be hoping they're going to put somebody into a debo esque type of role because he's not a player that I think you're asking to run the full route. Tree and even like the analytics, he's 87th and 46th in yards per route run over the last two years. Like, oh man, he's okay, but he sure as hell is not worth going in the second round of the NFL draft. Like, this is. When we talk about Seth, like we talked about this Bogman, like, we, we've discussed this years after years, the NFL double counting speed. This is what we're talking about. Running a 4, 3, 4. Like, this is, this is, this is an idiotic pick. Like, I, I don't.

[Seth Woolcock]

This is.

[Derek Brown]

Dude, why draft him at the top of the freaking second round? Like, you're basically telling us you had a first round grade on him. You're taking him at the first pick of the second round. There's no way in hell I would add a first round pick. Like grade on stribling. Like, I had him as like a round three slash four guy. Bogman, tell me I'm crazy here, man.

[Bogman]

No, you're not. This is, this is a very surprising pick. Now, Stripling had a lot, he had a lot of helium going into this class. But I think on mock draft database he was in the 90s in terms of like where he was gonna go. And among wide receivers, he was like 15 or 16, very low. So I could tell you he was wide receiver 17 on that. He was behind Lance Bell Field, Surat Williams, Hurst, Branch, Brazil, Bradley, Bernard Bell and Boston. Who.

[Derek Brown]

Where did you have him ranked Bogman? Because I have him at wide receiver 23 in my rookie rankings. Yeah, 23. And he goes over Denzel Boston.

[Bogman]

That is, it is incredibly surprising. I can pull up where I am.

[Seth Woolcock]

I am actually at 23 as well. And I thought I was higher than consensus.

[Host]

I'm at 18.

[Erickson]

Okay.

[Bogman]

So I like the more than.

[Derek Brown]

This is asinine, dude. This is ridiculous.

[Worm]

You know, I, I trust, I trust teams when they have a vision with the player. I thought they probably would have gone with Denzel Boston in that instance, but you know, they, they obviously have a vision there with Stribling and he kind of fits with what they're looking for with some of the blocking that he has on the perimeter and the aggressiveness and physicality that he plays with. But outside of that, I haven't watched much, so I can't give too much of a, of an in depth film breakdown or thought on him. He was a bit of a wild card because I really thought they were going Denzel Boston. I, I had the Boston notes up here. I was like, oh, we're talking. Let's Go, baby.

[Seth Woolcock]

Absolutely. And the Cleveland Browns now on the clock here. And like, honestly, it's hard not to love what the Browns did on day one, right. They added a third round pick in pick 74 and a fifth rounder and pick 148. Trading back with the Chiefs from six to nine, they still got their top tackle on the board, Utah's Spencer Fano. Then they come back at 24. They add Texas A and M wide receiver Casey Concepcion. That checked off two of their biggest needs, I would say. And it still keeps secondary up there. Edge. We need someone across from Miles Garrett there as well. So that. That are kind of, you know, kind of the big circles for the Cleveland Browns here. However, we do have the pick coming in. And shocker, boys, it is Denzel Boston. Wow. Out of Washington.

[Derek Brown]

Hell yes.

[Seth Woolcock]

So this is complicated now, especially from a fancy football perspective there, because now not only do you have Denzel Boston on this offense, you got Casey Ki on, you get two rookies here. You still have Jerry Judy. You got Harold Fanon Jr. Coming off a bit. All of a sudden it feels very crowded. It's feeling a bit crowded all of a sudden.

[Derek Brown]

If you believe in Jerry Judy. Yeah, it feels crowded.

[Seth Woolcock]

Unless they trade him, he's going to get targets.

[Derek Brown]

Okay. Over Boston in case he gets. Hell no, man. Like, dude, this is fantastic. I just. The Browns are crushing this draft, man. Like, remaking your wide receiver room. Now you are leading the. Like, they are setting up. Like, this isn't even a Shadur Sanders, DeShawn Watson kind of take. They are setting up whatever quarterback they take. If Shador, like, I. I think personally, you don't run it back with Watson, you give Shador the chance to earn the starting job. If he earns the starting job, he could be the answer for you. If he's not the answer for you, none of these guys are the answer for you. And you're drafting a quarterback in 2027, but you are setting him up perfectly. You got Quin, Sean Judkins, you got Harold Fannin Jr. You got Casey Ki on and Denzel Boston and a remade offensive line. The Browns are hitting homers, baby. Like, this is really, really good.

[Seth Woolcock]

The shores of Lake Erie gotta be buzzing right now. And Russ, maybe we should have saw this coming specifically because last year the Browns double dip at running back. They double dip at quarterback. Now they double dip at another skill position of wide receiver.

[Derek Brown]

This is just master class, bro.

[Worm]

Yeah. Clearly they've got an identity of how they want to attack certain positions in the draft. And I was going to ask that question before the pick came in. Do they double down at receiver here? Do they go Denzel Boston? Because I think, you know, you know, I'm not a fantasy guru by any means. Like, like DBRO over here, I'm a draft guy. I'm a film junkie. But you know, when you, when you look at Shador Sanders in a fantasy lens, like, he gets a little intriguing if he wins that starting job with some of these pieces to his point, you know, Harold Fannin, Jr. Quinn. Quinn San Jumpins, you've got Boston, you've got Conception. Like there's a lot to be desired there in this offense and, and with a kind of rebuilt offensive line, we're seeing that in Detroit, for example, right now. Like we've rebuilt our entire offensive line and it's going to be for the better. The same thing could happen here with the Cleveland Browns.

[Seth Woolcock]

I'm excited to see where Dynasty rookie rankings end. Derek, because I just said I think I have Concepcion borderline top five now. I think I have to move back a little bit just to be respectful because I do like Denzel Boston as a prospect a lot.

[Derek Brown]

Why just mo keep both of them where you have it at? Like, man, like you're betting on talent, dude. Like, and both of these guys got it. Like Russ, I. I'm curious where you are on Boston because he was my wide receiver 3 pre draft. I freaking love the kid. Like, I think that I don't care about all the. The 40 times I don't care about, but the film tells you everything to me. Like body role. He made crappy quarterback play, right? So many times when it was wrong. But you tell me, am I insane here?

[Worm]

No, you're not insane at all. I mean, he was a guy that he, he actually, you know, as I wrote him in my write up for my big board of 110 players, he's better than giving credit for. He's got the potential to be a true number one receiver for an offense prototypical size 6 foot 4, 212 pounds. I thought the way he high pointed the football consistently, the fluidity with the double moves. I mean some of those sluggo routes that he's running is, man, it's so sexy. It's so pure. He tracks the ball well. He's got good burst and pacing within his routes. Bit linear in his route stems and he could struggle I think at times with some press. But man, you're talking about a prototypical ex receiver. He can be a true number one in this offense. There's a lot to be desired. He was my 27th ranked player, one of my four top receivers in this draft. And I love the skill set and transition to him in this offense and I trust that Todd Monkey can get him the football with a vision within his offense.

[Derek Brown]

And this is a good. Just mishmash of skill sets, dude. Like, you have Harold Fannin that can really just be your dump and run tight end. Versatility in line in the slot. You have Casey that can do a number of different things playing interior. You can use him in a number of different ways. Like you're talking about. I mean, dude, just dagger concepts, like they could just absolutely just cry. Boston and KC bro, Like, we are off to the race, bro. Like you want to talk about a quietly fun offense this year. I am going to be investing in a lot of Browns players this year in redraft. Calling it now.

[Worm]

Yeah, I might take the over on a lot of receiving totals for these guys. I'm sure they're gonna be set pretty low because Judy and Harold Fannin. But like Denzel Boston, let's say at 40 receptions or something, I'm taking the over. Casey Conception, 40 receptions, taking the over. Like, for sure. Hitting that all day long.

[Seth Woolcock]

Will saying I'm old enough to say I turned down a trade that I would have sent David Boston, Denzel's dad and Curtis Martin for Priest Holmes and Daryl Jackson. We gotta love that man. Back in the way machine and Mike Mayer more than Denzel. Busted. Am I right?

[Derek Brown]

Let's go. No, you're not right, Mayor. This is not gonna age well for you, baby. I love you, but no.

[Seth Woolcock]

It is the time to be a Steelers fan. Oh, and the pick is Jeremy Bernard.

[Fitz]

Jeez.

[Seth Woolcock]

Wide receiver out of Alabama here, Jeremy Bernard. This was a really interesting. Just an interesting run for Bernard. Right, because he's someone who, you know, starts his career elsewhere, comes here with this new regime in Alabama this past year. He works with Isaiah Horton. He works with players like Ryan Williams who kind of regressed and he really was that one a option to Ty Simpson when the game matters. The team who could not run the ball. You're a little bit lower on him as a prospect, though. Derek Brown?

[Derek Brown]

I am only because, like, it's not because I don't think that he is a good wide receiver. I see the floor with him and I understand the versatility and I understand the pluses of his game, but I don't see where's the ceiling. Like, this is not the prospect profile of a player that I think should have gone in the second round of the NFL draft. This is a wide receiver where I think he's a round three, round four guy where he's going to be a strong wide receiver. Three for your depth chart. But I don't think he has the ceiling to be like the number two in your passing attack. So like I just don't understand like and this is what I keep throwing out there. If Jeremy Bernard did not go to Alabama, if Jeremy Bernard went to Georgia Tech, would Jeremy Bernard be going in the second round of the freaking NFL draft? I don't think so. Like Russ.

[Worm]

No.

[Derek Brown]

Am I wrong?

[Worm]

If he would have stayed at Michigan State, he probably wouldn't be talked about in the.

[Derek Brown]

Exactly.

[Worm]

I will say I, I, I do like Jeremy Bernard a little bit. Not. Okay, not saying like he is second

[Derek Brown]

round pick Jeremy Bernard. Do you like him that much?

[Worm]

He, he earned a late second early third round grade for me on my top 110. But, and he, he was my 45th overall player. But just keep in mind I have a lot of players with a 6.2 grade. So it's like a 5 way tie or a 10 way tie. So, but at the end of the day like I was very intrigued with the way he played because he played the Amon Ross St. Brown role for Alabama. The way that he was used in line, he would insert in the B and C gap and block linebackers. So to me that matters. I know it doesn't matter for everybody but that matters to me especially if you want to run the football. And I think when you think of schematically of how he fits, it makes sense. I think profile wise he reminds me so much of Romeo Dobbs and I, that worries me. That worries me a little bit. But when you think Romeo Dobbs was

[Seth Woolcock]

a fourth round pick, solid man.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Derek Brown]

So for Debro's point, he was a

[Worm]

fourth round pick and he's probably nothing more than a wide receiver too at best on a good day. So I think it's a great compliment to what you have with DK Metcalf and Michael Pitt Whitman Jr. But I, I don't know if he's necessarily going to ever be that number one receiver but I guess after you kind of get fleeced with Philly and Makai Lemon slips through your hands, you gotta pivot somewhere and go get your pass catcher. So I'm, I'm okay with this Derrick

[Seth Woolcock]

Brown question for you. Would you rather take Jeremy Bernard or Dijon Stribling in a dynasty reflects rookie draft?

[Worm]

I hope he's faced with that decision, too.

[Derek Brown]

Neither.

[Seth Woolcock]

Neither, neither, Neither. Okay, let me preface this. Ted Hurst, Bryce Lance just sniped. You are in the hol. You are on tilt right now. You have to pick one of them. You have no wide receivers. Your only wide receivers are Pukin Naku might not play this year, and Tyree Kill Stripling.

[Derek Brown]

I'll take Stribling only because I like. I like his rack ability better than I do Jeremy Bernard. Like, again, this all comes down to, like, if you have a strong wide receiver room, Jeremy Bernard is nothing better than wide receiver three in an NFL depth chart. It's like, I just don't see the, like, I think the totality of his game. Like, I think that, like, to Russ's point, he's a better NFL player than he will ever be. For fantasy. I just don't see. Like, this feels like a little bit of duplicity, honestly, too, with Michael Pittman Jr. So I kind of wonder if that's some of the insurance with him. Because, you know, we've talked about this before, Seth. Like, Pittman was basically sold to them for nothing.

[Seth Woolcock]

Nothing.

[Derek Brown]

So, like, I kind of feel like that's a reflection of, like, where his health is. So, like, you know, maybe this is duplicity and giving them insurance with that, too.

[Seth Woolcock]

So I will say, regardless, this is the best wide receiver core we've had in Pittsburgh since AB was in town. Like, if we're just being like, like, you know, just spitting facts or I guess maybe if you want to count the year when George Pickens was kind of coming up and Deontay Johnson still had his head on straight for a second, like, I guess that was okay. But, you know, can we also say

[Derek Brown]

pour one out for Roman Wilson. That poor dude never got a dude. He never got a chance with the previous coaching regime. And the new one comes in and they're just like, yeah, we don't care about you. Like, burn out.

[Seth Woolcock]

Out, dude. Out. I. I got. I got one. And I don't want you to think that I am. I am. I'm looking because.

[Erickson]

No, no, I. I could. I can see that your. Your mind is racing right now trying to, like, figure out, okay, who do you think it is? Then based on that information?

[Seth Woolcock]

Okay, I have two. Two thoughts. Either Bryce Lance or two. We're going tight end, baby. We're going. Oh, I. I had them going. I didn't go in tight end Sadiq. In my second mock draft, first mock draft, I had Eli Stower.

[Erickson]

So that.

[Seth Woolcock]

That would be one of. If you're saying it's bad for Lemon. It's one of those two coming in. Announce it. Andrew. Give me it. What do you got?

[Erickson]

Vanderbilt own Eli Stowers to the Philadelphia.

[Derek Brown]

Good landing spot, man.

[Seth Woolcock]

Let's go.

[Derek Brown]

Eli Stowers, tight end one in rookie ranks. Yes.

[Seth Woolcock]

You heard it here first folks. Jumps jumbo slot wide receiver Big boy coming down, Eli Stowers. Wow. Okay. All right, so we, we gotta break this down boys, because I'm fired up.

[Derek Brown]

Yeah.

[Seth Woolcock]

Just to like sort the room. Erickson, were you Sadiq over Sours coming into this process?

[Erickson]

Yes, but I felt that they were in the same like tier. I didn't think it was like Sadiq. The only reason I felt more comfortable with Sadiq was I knew he was gonna be a first round pick. And you just look at Titans in round one versus Titans around two and the round one Titans have just a higher, much higher hit rate than a lot of these round two guys. Round two guys really need like the nuts like you need the sand la Florida landing spot to hit most of the time as a second round pick. Yeah, I mean Dallas got us from the last year of his contract.

[Derek Brown]

A.J. brown is gone. He's a New England patriot.

[Erickson]

Like could the Eagles be like showing their hand more than like, yeah, A.J. brown is gone. We're gonna keep drafting receiver after receiver after receiver.

[Seth Woolcock]

Well, and, and the thing about this is like sours Derek has so much receiving upside, right. John Mackey award winner, finished six in the SEC in reception, 62769 yards, four touchdowns. And like he can line up a bit everywhere. He can do out wide apparently. I mean Brett yelled at me and said that he cannot play inline. So maybe he can't play in line but he can play out wide and play in the backfield. He can line up his fullback. And I think like you know Tyler Warren, this a former quarterback, high football IQ guy, except unlike Sadiq, unlike Warren, consensus all American, multiple years of productions across programs when he's playing in the G5 as well. So coming into this past season, boys like everyone had him as the consensus tight end one. I'm surprised the gap is this far now that it is. But I think now it's going to narrow from fantasy standpoint. I've always been ten toes down on Eli Sours being the better pass catcher for fantasy. I think that remains here. But there's a low volume of passing. Erickson, maybe make you a little worried that hey, this isn't a team that likes to throw the ball around a ton but John Manion's offense or Shawn Manion's offense does use a lot of 12 man personnel.

[Erickson]

Yeah. So I guess for me just like comparing it to the Sadiq situation, I just think that's such a better spot for.

[Derek Brown]

Yes, better spot.

[Erickson]

So I think even if they are slow burns as rookies again, Dallas God are still on the team. Like they have devonte Smith to help and they added another round. It's interesting because they both added, you know, top receivers in this class too. Both teams, the jets and the Philadelphia Eagles. But I guess I'm thinking ahead to 20, 27 and how do the outlooks change? I feel way more comfortable about. Oh, Stars is going to be locked and loaded. Potential tight end one in this offense with Devonte Smith. McKay, Lemon.

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

Versus what's the jets like next year? Like so many question marks.

[Seth Woolcock]

Rookie quarterback too.

[Erickson]

Yeah, rookie quarterback. So I, I think, yeah, I mean I'm. Right now I'm not gonna poo poo anyone that's like, oh, you gotta be stars over Sadiq and I can definitely get behind. I'm scared.

[Seth Woolcock]

Where do you think in your rookie rankings you'll have Stowers currently in Super Flex? I mean I was the high guy coming in. I had him seven overall. I think maybe I'm gonna, I'm gonna bump KC above him and Denzel probably above. Like I think I'll maybe be closer to eight or nine but I think I'm still really excited. Like late first round, I'm on it like white on rice, baby.

[Derek Brown]

Late first round, like I'm moving him up. I'm adjusting live right now as we're talking on the scene out of the guys that have been drafted already. I'm putting Stowers up to the 110. I would take him over Sadiq. I would take him over Ty Simpson. I think he's the first round pick. Like, I mean dude, it's just. The Runway is clear, man. It's like A.J. brown is gone. Dallas Goddard's gone after this year. Like Eli Stowers, it's like, I mean we're kind of. The Eagles are telling us like what they're going to do with all these moves, man. And I'm here for it. And they needed to invest. Like their picks of the last like two to three drafts have been so defense heavy and things like that and giving Vic a ton of weapons. They needed to address offense and I think like, you know, you're gonna see the Eagles now, they need to get back to the trenches, like give themselves Some answers of the offensive line and. And then how he's gonna walk away with another A plus grade from me to play.

[Erickson]

Play Devil's advocate a little bit. Fast forward 20, 27, is Eli Stowers not the number three receiver on the Eagles, though? Like, how appealing is that?

[Seth Woolcock]

Because I think he's on the field more than Lemon. I think you look at stuff.

[Worm]

Okay, okay.

[Erickson]

But no, like that. That. That I want. I wanted to have that conversation because, like, they drafted a round one wide receiver. Like, but.

[Seth Woolcock]

But did that.

[Derek Brown]

Did that stop Dallas Goddard from being a strong tight end over the last few years?

[Erickson]

Goddard's production was not good when his receivers were healthy. Like, that's how the Eagles office has been. It's been. A.J. brown has been the man every single time. But then when somebody misses games or gets hurt, the other two guys would just explode. So if that's the way you want to play it, I totally get that from a sour standpoint. But when Lemon is healthy, Smith is healthy, Stowers is healthy. He's still third. So, like, I would just keep that in mind when you're talking about what's the ceiling play for Eli Stowers. Okay. He's still going to be the number three receiver on the Eagles, which again, is Jalen Hurts going to be the quarterback next year. Like, that's another thing too, we got to talk about.

[Derek Brown]

He will be. He will be.

[Erickson]

So.

[Derek Brown]

But, well, so the pushback with that, though, that I'll give you Erickson and just plain Devil's advocate here too. That's assuming that Makai Lemonade can be as good of a perimeter wide receiver as some other people believe. I'm not in that camp. So that, that also is giving Lemon the benefit of the doubt that he can be the perimeter wide receiver that a lot of people think he can be.

[Erickson]

Do you think straight up, you could.

[Derek Brown]

Towers might be there too.

[Erickson]

Okay, okay.

[Host]

That.

[Erickson]

That's what I wanted to have that conversation. Like, one of stars or Lemon is not going to meet expectations, then yeah,

[Seth Woolcock]

yeah, I think it's Lemon.

[Erickson]

And if Stowers is the one that's also cheaper in drafts, which I presume just based on draft capital, he will be. But he's probably the better bet to make given that if he does actually be the number two, you're getting that positional advantage at tight end, even if it doesn't guarantee that's exactly what happens.

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

You know what is my highest return on investment would be Stowers later in round one versus taking Makai Lemon at the 105 or wherever he's gonna go.

[Derek Brown]

Well, in this type of draft capital, too. It's not like, you know, it, it. I'm not saying it alleviates all stars blocking, like, inefficiencies and things like that, but going in the second round versus him going third or fourth round is also huge. So.

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah, you completely agreed with you there, and it is. Texas A M tight end Nick Nate Birken Hiker

[Erickson]

new worst pick of the draft. Is this A M tight end?

[Seth Woolcock]

It is, it is.

[Derek Brown]

Never had over 198 receiving yards in any collegiate season. 1.4 yards per route run. But I guess when you got to grab the tight end too, you know, you got to do it. Dude. Jacksonville, this is all. This is. Gladstone might be quietly one of the worst GMs in all football. Like, tell me I'm wrong here, boys. The Travis Hunter trade, what they did in his rookie season, taking this guy in round two, this is hot garbage. This is. This is horrible.

[Worm]

Horrible.

[Bogman]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

I'm not gonna pretend I know enough about this specific tight end to give a groundbreaking analysis on him. I know that there were a couple that did like him as a sleeper, and that is not necessarily. The real life tight end is probably better than fantasy tight end, obviously. And the Jaguars already have a bunch of tight ends that they use on their roster, so I think this is probably.

[Derek Brown]

This is horrible.

[Erickson]

I. I'm surprised they didn't go again. They not. They needed a linebacker again. They lost Devin Lloyd this off season, so I think Anthony Hill still on the board. Right. They could have gone with linebacker here.

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah.

[Derek Brown]

Linebacker, corner safety. They could have used. I mean, Emmanuel McNeil. Warren is still on the board.

[Fitz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Woolcock]

You got Brighton Strange. It's like part of Breton Strange's capability is. Breton Strange is one of the better blocking tight ends in the league. He's a complete tight end. Like, dude, I just feel like it's a little bit of a. Yeah. Is it? This is the worst pick, right? No. I don't know. The Stripling one's pretty bad the top of the second. But this is.

[Derek Brown]

I mean, Stribling and I mean, this is in the running.

[Erickson]

I mean, Stribling was essentially a first round pick. Like.

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Erickson]

I mean, the Jaguars, you use. Their first pick is 56th overall, though, so. And Brad Strange is a free agent after this year, so that's fair. If he walks again, they need. If they need. If they're like, we need a blocking tight end.

[Derek Brown]

Okay, but, dude. But I mean, like, yeah, Sam Roush is still on the board. If you needed a blocking titan, you could have gone and got him. Oscar Delpa still on the board. Like Eli Reardon. Like, any one of these guys. This is a terrible pick, man.

[Erickson]

DBRO fantasy pros in the chat is saying that this titan didn't even make your top 100.

[Derek Brown]

No, he didn't.

[Erickson]

Of skill position players.

[Derek Brown]

When I got. When I got into the dregs of, like, the lower parts of this class, like, say, to Trey or over him. Matthew Hibner over him. Like, I. I was. I'm gonna add him to the top 100. But I didn't feel the necessity to, like, get him in there before the draft. I. This is bad.

[Seth Woolcock]

I thought too, if, like, you're gonna go with this, like, h back type of player, maybe like Josh Cuevas, a guy who I'm a big fan of at the.

[Derek Brown]

Will Cameron, Ohio State pick him?

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah.

[Derek Brown]

Either one of these guys.

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah, it's. It's a question mark for sure. However, where you shouldn't have any question marks is when you get into your fantasy pros dynasty rookie draft by you. Well, you're not using the fancy pros, but whether you're on sleeper, whatever, you know, whatever platform you're using, you just make sure you're using the fancy pros trade analyzer. Almost had it there, guys. But your rookie draft is when a lot of your dynasty league trade action will happen and will be going down. So make sure you win those trades. Use the trade analyzer to instantly evaluate all trades and stay ahead of your league. Try it for [e-mail] analyzer and don't make bad trades. Don't be like Derek Brown. Send garbage trades to me.

[Derek Brown]

What?

[Seth Woolcock]

And garbage

[Erickson]

Derek always has to win the trade.

[Seth Woolcock]

He does. I've actually never played in a league with Derek, but I'll change this year.

[Derek Brown]

Erickson, you've. You've gotten some good trades off of me, sir. Thank you very much.

[Erickson]

I took the L on them because I knew that was the only way to get the deal done. Is this move not the same as. Didn't the Cardinals take a tight end in, like, the second round?

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah, Max Williams.

[Erickson]

Is that who that was?

[Derek Brown]

No, it was. God, what's that?

[Erickson]

Reminds me, that.

[Derek Brown]

Was it Tip Ryman?

[Erickson]

Am I maybe.

[Derek Brown]

Yeah, I think it was Tip Ryman.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Derek Brown]

I mean, either way, this is. This is a horrible pick, man. Like, I. I just. I can't defend this in any way.

[Erickson]

I'm trying to, like, find ways to,

[Derek Brown]

like, I Mean, my whole thing about this, like, this isn't my problem with like, okay, find the player. But did you have to do this at pick 56 in the second round? Like, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Woolcock]

There's no way. You don't have a lot of picks either. You don't have a lot of picks,

[Derek Brown]

so there's just no way you can justify this pick.

[Seth Woolcock]

It's Marlon Klein. Tight Michigan. Michigan.

[Derek Brown]

Oh, wow.

[Seth Woolcock]

Overseas kid. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Okay, Marlon Klein, another guy that Derek, I don't know about you, I do not have Marlon Klein ranked in my rookie rankings right now. This is the second tight end today off the board. I only ranked out to 15, though, so I don't know how far you went. I do not have Klein. I will say, though, Klein, like, I'm ranked. Okay, where do you have him?

[Derek Brown]

Let me see where I got him.

[Fitz]

He was.

[Derek Brown]

I'm pulling on my ranks right now. I want to say Marlon Klein was. I had him a little bit above consensus. Marlon Clyde. Oh, no, he was tight end 17 for me.

[Seth Woolcock]

Okay.

[Derek Brown]

Tight end 17. I mean, I only. I only watched and ranked 21 guys to take that for what it's worth.

[Seth Woolcock]

But, like, I had him.

[Fitz]

I think.

[Derek Brown]

I think he'll be solid, man. I think he's more of like, you're in line. He's going to be the. The guy they play alongside. Dalton Schultz, give them 12, 12 personnel, versatility.

[Seth Woolcock]

Eric Ericson, your thoughts? Oh, do we maybe lose Ericson? Oh, no. Okay. No, we still got you. You got you.

[Erickson]

I'm lagging a little bit because of my

[Derek Brown]

too many spreadsheets. Trying to look up Marlon Klein,

[Erickson]

basically. Essentially, that's what was happening. My. My computer was overloading. So last year, so basically, again talked about how he came over from Germany, so late starter to football, sat behind a bunch of super talented tight ends at Michigan. Colson Loveland, A.J. barner. Never got really a chance to play this past year. He has this breakout game, week one, and we're like, is this the next guy at Michigan he gets?

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah, I spent a ton of fab and CFF on him. I spent everything on him, dude.

[Derek Brown]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

So he. We never really got to see it play out. And he was also an early declare, which is kind of interesting because he doesn't have the counting sense. So the NFL again, going back to. Sometimes there are players that the NFL is just really, really high on that necessary. The media isn't matching that Type of hype. 22 career target rate per outrun. That's really strong for a tight End. So when he's on the field, he's getting targeted at a high rate. So I don't think that this is a situation where it's like, oh, this random titan just got drafted, like, fade him into oblivion. I think there might be something here with Marlon Klein. Obviously the draft capital is going to move him up rookie rankings, but I think when you look at him as a projection, I think there is some justification by, yeah, he should have gone higher and he should have been higher ranked in the pre draft process because of the potential that he could offer. And also coming from Michigan, a lot of productive Titans have come out of Michigan, most notably Loveland AJ Barner the last couple of years.

[Seth Woolcock]

Okay, okay. Los Angeles Rams on the clock. Los Angeles Rams have made the pick as well, and this is a sad one. The Los Angeles Rams at 229, have selected Ohio. Ohio State tight end Max Claire. So if you had any hope for, you know, a tight end, three in this class to be happy about.

[Erickson]

This is worse than the, the, this is worse than the Marlon Klein pick. I think it's worse, bro.

[Derek Brown]

I just, you wide receivers on the board right now, you have need a wide receiver. You drafted Terence Ferguson last year.

[Erickson]

So good too.

[Derek Brown]

So good is Listy just like blindly tossing darts like, all right, whoever I hit, we're gonna draft Simpson. Cool.

[Erickson]

Like 15 personnel is that thing. How many Titans can you put up at once?

[Derek Brown]

I don't know. The Rams are gonna try, man. Too, bro. Like, I don't understand what we're doing here, dude.

[Erickson]

There's one all the time.

[Derek Brown]

It's not like Max Clear is a different archetype. He's not a great blocker. He's a receiving first tight end like you. The other thing about it is I caught one of the pressers about like Sean McVay was talking about. He was like, last year we would have drafted Terence Ferguson in the first round, but we got him in the second. So you're telling us in back to back draft classes you would have spent a first round pick on a tight end last year? That's how high you are on Ferguson. And you're spending a second on Max Claire. And he's also the same archetype. He's a receiving first tight end. He's not a great blocker. I, I, I, I just, I don't know what the hell the Rams are doing right now, man. Like this draft class is just Flummo singing. Like, I don't understand it.

[Seth Woolcock]

Claire's interesting because he was someone this past Season. He wasn't the tight end one in CFF leagues, but he was a top three guys specifically because he was on that same Purdue team as, as Thinnerman, which just had like actually kind of good players, but they were just terrible because they had no quarterback and no run game to speak of. But Claire, Claire is really, really high projected this year. It just like when you have Jeremiah Smith out there and you also at the same time have Carnell Tate they're competing for with targets and big, big Bo Jackson in the backfield, it's gonna, you know, be hard to put up a lot of production. But I don't hate it. I don't hate it at all. I like it.

[Derek Brown]

You don't hate it. So, I mean, here.

[Seth Woolcock]

No, here's the thing. I don't hate the value on Max Claire. I don't like the fit for the Rams because.

[Derek Brown]

Yeah, but like, why would the Rams need to do this?

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah.

[Derek Brown]

Why would the Rams hate the prospect? I don't like.

[Seth Woolcock]

I don't like the fit. Yeah. So I should have been a little more.

[Erickson]

I mean, they're really leaning into this tight end thing. Like they're not taking wide receivers there.

[Derek Brown]

Do they.

[Seth Woolcock]

Did they just extend Higby though, or is Higby gone?

[Erickson]

Well, I mean, Higby is supposed to come back, but he's also really old, so it's a matter of. Okay, is he going to be a long term. I. I just don't think that he's like in their long term plans where. Yeah, yeah, Claire obviously is. Terrence obviously is. But I agree with Debro where there's a little bit more of an overlap between Claire and Ferguson, where maybe I'd expect more of a run blocking tight end that maybe looks more like Kobe Parkinson. I don't know how many more years he has under his contract or how much more guaranteed money he has. Oh, that's a good shot.

[Derek Brown]

They also have Parkinson.

[Erickson]

Yeah, like they. Yeah, they paid Parkinson. So look, the Rams are committed to using multiple tight ends and I think that's going to continue. So.

[Derek Brown]

Yeah, but this is. I mean, I, I understand the commitment, but this is. I mean, we, we're going overboard here, man. Like, I, It'd be different if, if

[Erickson]

Ferguson flopped two in year one, which I don't think he did. Like, I know he had flashes whenever

[Derek Brown]

he was actually on the freaking field, man. Like, I, I don't understand what the Rams are doing. Like, is Sean McVeigh is going to come out like in the middle of the summer and be like, all right, forget it. I'm heading to the broadcast booth. Screw you guys. I'm going home. Like, whatever, man. Like this. Yeah, this is wild.

[Seth Woolcock]

And again, to Cody. Cody Lawler in the chat, like, it's not about Claire not being.

[Derek Brown]

No, this is not about Claire so much as, like, the fit. Like, why are you drafting. When you drafted Terence Ferguson.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Derek Brown]

You got Tyler Higby, and you got Colby Parkinson. You really felt like tight end four on the damn depth chart was something you needed to address in round two.

[Erickson]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, just like that.

[Fitz]

The optics of that make it seem

[Derek Brown]

really bad where, like, tight end four. He's tight end four on their depth chart, and we had to go get him in round two.

[Erickson]

And there's still a lot of strong wide receivers on the board.

[Bogman]

Stribling going to the Niners. Fitzy.

[Derek Brown]

Oh, what?

[Fitz]

33rd overall, Dijon Stribling, a super senior, a guy who played at three different schools. Look, I know he is a really good blocker for a wide receiver and is pretty good after the catch, but, man, you're. You're telling me you couldn't have traded down and gotten him later in the round or. Or, let's be honest, probably the third. Who are you worried about losing him to? The Rams. I mean, maybe the Rams might have grabbed him later on, but they must see Heinz Ward.

[Bogman]

I just, like, you have to. To take him that high, you have to see that type of player in him, or archetype, I guess.

[Fitz]

The funny thing is, like, I know I was surprised when Dane Brugler had him ranked, like, 11th among wide receivers or whatever. I thought that was high. And then they took him as, what, the sixth overall receiver?

[Host]

Yeah. So we have our first pick here in the third round. Carson Beck is the third quarterback off the board here, going to the Cardinals. This was a pairing that was thrown out as a possibility by some people coming into today, and it does come to fruition. I know that this is not, like, our favorite quarterback year, because, let's be real, there were no favorite quarterbacks among us after we got past Mendoza, but what do we think about. I mean, there's no. Really no team with more of an opportunity here. You know, not only is Jacoby Brissette your biggest competition, but he is now, you know, holding out for a bigger bag. So there's really a Runway here. Fitz, does the landing.

[Bogman]

Even.

[Host]

Even if you weren't the biggest Carson Beck fan, does a landing spot raise your eyebrows at all?

[Fitz]

I mean, I just don't like the direction the franchise is going. So like I don't feel good about that. And now he top of the third is like this sort of quarterback purgatory. Like he's probably going to get an audition at some point but by no means are they paving the way for him to be the starter of the future. So I just. There's something missing with Becky. I think he gets a little rattled under pressure. Just it seems like big moments can be a little too much for him at times. I don't know. What do you think, Boggs? It's just I don't know if he handles pressure well enough to be an NFL quarterback.

[Bogman]

Yeah, I mean you're right. Whether he is a sustainable starter in the NFL is a massive question. But you like all the stuff coming in, right? 39 starts at the collegiate level, lots of experience there. Really cut down on the turnover worthy plays. As you know, in his last season in college and led Miami all the way down the stretch. He was, he was good enough to not make mistakes and he's surrounded by Jeremiah Love and Marvin Harrison and Michael Wilson and they went and got Kendrick bourne and Trey McBride is a great target. Right. So like whoever is given the keys to this offense is going to be a decent producer at the quarterback position. I don't know if I would bet on Beck long term, but it's way better than him going and sitting behind a veteran for a long time. So I do think that like Worm said, there's a Runway for him to potentially take this job at some point this year.

[Worm]

Do you.

[Host]

Do you think Bogman, now that we know the landing spots for Sadiq and Stowers, like we. You talked a lot. When I was trying to make the case before the draft of Stowers being in the same tier as Sadiq, that landing spot was going to be really critical for him. How do you feel about it now with Philly as the landing spot?

[Bogman]

I love it. I don't think Goddard has one more year. Right. So like I think Goddard has another year and then he's probably gone so Sours can take over. It's going to take a little bit. I don't think he's going to drop right in there. But we kind of didn't think that about Harold Fannin because in Joku was still in Cleveland last year. So I think. I think Stowers is going to be a great fit in Philly. I really like it.

[Host]

Well, I mean it's gonna feel like.

[Bogman]

I don't want to call it a

[Host]

redshirt year, but it's going to take a bit for Kenyan Sadiq too, if for no other reason than the offensive situation he's in. So it's not like you're getting one guy to be a stud right away. You are sort of anticipating that it might take time for both of these guys, and one of them is with an organization that we have a lot more trust in. Fitz.

[Fitz]

Yes. Sorry, I was just checking something on Markel Bell. I might have. If there was a question in there, I missed it. Where?

[Host]

Just. Just set you up about Stowers versus Sadiq now that we know the landing spots for both.

[Fitz]

Yeah, I'm. I'm team Stowers right now. I was just really dismayed by the city glanding spot. We talked about this a little bit last night. And also just sort of the overlapping of Omar Cooper and Sadiq. Like, I know Frank Reich sort of likes the dink and dunk stuff and a lot of middle of the field stuff, but it just seems like there's so many guys who are going to be running those routes for the jets. And I like, between tight end Z and slot, you've basically got these four guys now. You know, you've got Garrett Wilson, Omar Cooper, Kenyan Sadiq, and then Mason Taylor. It's just. It's kind of an overcrowded situation for a team we know is not going to have one of the better passing games in the league. So I just don't like the value of Sadiq at all.

[Host]

Well, I think you're probably also good at this pick for the Bears because it's your boy, Sam Roush. I mean, I don't hate this landing spot. I was gonna say, for him, it's a player you like.

[Bogman]

Yeah, it is a player I really like in Sam Roush. But come on now, they still have Cole Comet on this team, right?

[Fitz]

Yeah, they do.

[Bogman]

I mean, when is Sam Roush ever gonna play? What is with all these blocking?

[Seth Woolcock]

I don't know.

[Host]

That commit's long for the Bears.

[Bogman]

Yeah, he's not.

[Host]

But clearly an offense that wants to have two, you know, capable tight end. So I'm not surprised that they want to have a next man up behind commit for now or the future. And if they think he's really good, which you thought he was really good. I. I mean, again, from the Bears perspective, I think it makes sense.

[Bogman]

I do like him, but I mean, you know, take it out of just the tight end perspective. Right. You saw Luther Burton and Roma Dunesay there as well, so. Plus the run game, there's going to be Two running backs ahead of him, a tight end and two wide receivers. So he's six in the pecking order at best most games. So unless there's an injury to Loveland or he is just way better than we thought, which I don't know if that's the case, so I'm ready for the Niners. Weird pick though.

[Seth Woolcock]

Fits.

[Host]

This is yet again a player that we were hoping might end up being relevant in fantasy and a potential fun third or fourth round pick that is not in the best, you know, opportunistic landing spot. So that just. It's another guy kind of checking off, crossing off the list.

[Fitz]

No, I know. Having to share the tight end spot with Colston Loveland, who's an absolute monster. I, I think we're going to see the Bears play a lot of two tight end sets, but still, I mean, it's just. That is a suboptimal landing spot for a tight end that Boggs and I really liked and, and you like. We've kind of been in on him the whole, the whole pre, pre draft process. Very disappointing.

[Host]

Landing spot commander is their biggest swing that they need to take as a receiver. I know a lot of my friends who are Washington fans are kind of hoping for a guy like Ted Hurst. I know we have some other receivers that we like higher than him that we've talked about in the pre draft process. Oh, looks like the pick is in. It's Antonio Williams. So they do go with a receiver. They go receiver out of Clemson. This is a player that we liked. Do you like the fit? Particularly in Washington, paired across from Terry McLaurin. And outside of Terry, a whole lot of target opportunity here.

[Seth Woolcock]

Fitz.

[Fitz]

I like it a lot. Four, four speed, really explosive with the ball in his hands. Four year producer at Clemson. Like this guy was impactful in his true freshman year. So there's a lot to like. I know those numbers from the final season weren't great, but yeah, like this is a guy they tried to get the ball on jet sweeps and you know, like little gadgety ways, but he can also be a decent route runner and beat people that way. So I'm, I'm a fan of the pick. Like I, I think he's a good receiver and I think I like him nearly as much as I like Jeremy Bernard. I think I'd rather have Bernard, but I think it's close.

[Host]

I mean is. Is Williams. This is going to sound kind of crazy, but just considering how many players I feel like have lost value with their landing spots. This seems One that's like a really enticing fit. Is he like a borderline late first round pick in rookie drafts? I mean, again, like who is going to take that 11th and 12th spot right now that you feel good about because the names we were throwing out beforehand are not getting the great landing spots or if there's a running back hasn't even been drafted yet. This is a player that we maybe, I don't know if we loved, but we certainly liked and there's gonna be a real opportunity here. Bogman, I mean, where should he go in in rookie mocks?

[Bogman]

Let me ask you this, Fitzy. You want Ty Simpson, you want Antonio Williams?

[Fitz]

Oh, Ty Simpson.

[Bogman]

I think so too. So that would push him down for me into the, the third round. I would have him. I think I would have him ahead of Bernard just because of the, the fact that the Steelers are going to be a run first team. We don't know where the quarterback is, you know, so I think I might have him, you know. You do. Burke's had a pretty good year for Washington. And are we getting anything out of Luke McCaffrey? I think these are decent questions. He's gonna have to beat out these guys right now and maybe Jalen Lane, who they took last year and then they have some gross vets in there and Van Jefferson, Taimy Brown. But I don't think these guys are going to keep Antonio Williams off the field very long.

[Fitz]

Agree with you on Antonio Williams over Jeremy Bernard in Dynasty now coming in pre draft. I like Jeremy Bernard a little more, but this is a much better landing spot for Antonio Williams. I mean, the Pittsburgh quarterback situation is just such a, you know, it's so opaque right now. We don't know what.

[Bogman]

And they have met Catherine Pittman and Friermuth. Right. Like, so there's a lot of targets in the passing game itself and their run first team. So, you know, I think this, this fit for Washington is better than Bernard to Pittsburgh for fantasy.

[Host]

Just since you brought up Ty Simpson, I want to ask you guys the, you know, sort of the next day now that we've had some time to merit in on it. What do you guys make of Sean McVeigh seemingly like not having been. I know they've had some reporting today where they're trying to push back against that narrative. But like Sean McVeigh is not a guy who hides his, his emotions and opinions very well. And he like, he just so clearly looked angry. Like I, I find it very hard to believe the narrative coming out today that he Actually was very on board with the pick. At the same time, I totally get the people who say, like, there's literally no chance the Rams are going to make that a pick like that without his blessing. But he sure looked mad about it. Does that change your opinion of Ty Simpson at all, Fitz? I mean, no, we didn't love him that much, but we said, well, he now kind of has to be a higher pick because he's got the Sean McVeigh endorsement. Are we sure he has that endorsement? How do you feel about him the day later?

[Fitz]

Yeah, I'm. I'm not letting myself get swayed by the McVeigh reaction. You just don't know. End of a long day, maybe it was just the way things caught him and he wasn't feeling especially perky at the time. So, you know, it's. I'm still not a firm believer in the player, but it's such a good situation. Like, maybe we can get him molded into the player we saw for the first 10 games of the 2025 Alabama season, because Simpson was really good during that period. So, I mean, this. It does parallel to the packers situation in 2020 in some ways, where they didn't need a quarterback immediately. They knew they were going to need one in a year or two. And Love wound up backing up Aaron Rodgers for two years. Not just one. Love set on the bench for two years on ice. When he came in, he was pretty well ready to go. Like, and, you know, we've. We've seen him emerge and become a top 10 quarterback. I don't know if Ty Simpson has that type of upside, but the situations are. I think they parallel each other in interesting ways because both teams, packers then, like the Rams now, had super bowl aspirations at the time.

[Bogman]

Fitz, are you more upset about Ty Simpson or Max Claire going to the Rams where they already have Terence Ferguson?

[Fitz]

I know.

[Host]

I hated that.

[Bogman]

Hey, yeah.

[Fitz]

I mean, Ferguson, Parkinson, I mean, they. They still feel.

[Host]

Is Higby there still Davis Allen? I mean, just a name there, like. Yeah, yeah.

[Bogman]

So, I mean.

[Host]

Well, let me ask you this, Fitz, as you answer, do you hate it more for Claire or for Ferguson? Because I was so excited about Ferguson for next year.

[Fitz]

For me, for both. I mean, I was.

[Host]

For me, it's Ferguson. I was really excited about him for next year.

[Fitz]

Yeah, I'm gonna have to drop both of those guys in my Dynasty rankings.

[Host]

By the way, tight end Oscar Delp out of Georgia goes to the Saints here with pick 73.

[Fitz]

Very, very poor man's Brock Bowers broke, man's, Brock Towers.

[Host]

Delp was somebody that some of the Ravens beat reporters thought they might be targeting in round three. So he goes a handful of picks before their Malachi Fields out of Notre Dame goes to the Giants. That one I actually like. He's a player that I liked. I think it's a good fit next to Malik Neighbors once he's back healthy. And by the way, we don't know how like Neighbors, there hasn't been a ton of positive reporting on that. So there might be a real opportunity early on if Fields can hit the ground running. But I, I think this is a, is a pretty nice selection by the Giants and one of the first times in a while that I feel like is a pretty good, pretty good fit here. Fitz, this is a player that I know you liked.

[Fitz]

Yeah, just a ball winner. He, he is a big dude I want to say is he six four, six four six four and a half. 218 and a 38 inch vertical jump. So like it's kind of odd that he didn't score many touchdowns in college. I don't know if he ever had more than five touchdowns in a single season. Because he could be a guy who eventually at some point has like a double digit touchdown season because he is that sort of red zone weapon, a guy you just, you know, I know a lot of people complain about how inefficient the fade routes are, but this is the kind of guy you throw a fade route to when you're at the five yard line. So yeah, I mean I think he's a good complimentary receiver too. I was wondering whether Malik, whether Malachi Fields or Elijah Surat would go first. So yeah, I mean Fields and I know he ran a 4 6, 462 something like that at the combine. It turned a lot of people off, but at his size that's still like a 72nd percentile speed score. He's not slow for a big dude. 462 is not that bad.

[Host]

Yeah, I'm not particularly worried about the speed with him.

[Bogman]

He, you know the, the thing with Fields that bothered me was that he wasn't better in contested situations with his size and I think that's why he doesn't have those crazy touchdown numbers. Career 47.3 contested catch rate which is just not really good. He had issues with physical CBs so like just use to learn that frame a little bit better, maybe hit the gym a little bit more, bulk up a little bit more to be a little stronger. And he really did dominate the Senior Bowl. He dominated practice reps and was good in the game. So I'm I'm excited to see Fields

[Host]

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[Derek Brown]

Bogman, you first neutral.

[Bogman]

I would say it's probably a net negative slightly because you have guys that will take targets away from him and are just better than the players that they have there right now. So probably a net negative but not it's not a killer to Fanon's value at all. Adding these guys, you know it should open up everything in the offense which is nice. So probably just a slight net negative for Fanon.

[Seth Woolcock]

Fitz I don't think.

[Fitz]

Yeah, I don't think we can say it's neutral. I. I think it does hurt a little bit that they're now credible weapons. I wish we felt better about the Browns passing game overall and maybe we wouldn't worry about it. I mean, our friend of the show, Andrew Cooper of Fantasy Alarm, always likes to say the key to, you know, finding good values at tight end is one of the things is ask yourself the question, can he be one of the top two targets and his team's offense? And I still think fan and can be.

[Bogman]

Yes.

[Fitz]

Wouldn't surprise me if he outproduced both Boston and Concepcion. It's just not the slam dunk. You know, before the draft with what they had on their depth chart, it was a slam dunk. He was going to be a top two target in that offense. Now there's a little more competition. So I, I do think he loses maybe a little bit of value, but still got to be bullish on him. He's really talented.

[Host]

Another friend of the show, Tara Roberts, I saw tweet earlier. She was like, we really saw Kenyon Siddiq, Omar Cooper, Casey Concepcion, and Denzel Boston all go to the Browns or Jets.

[Fitz]

Oh, my goodness.

[Host]

I mean, that was picks 106 through 109 for us in our most recent mock. I believe in in some order. And all four of them go to the two worst run franchises. It feels like pretty annual.

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

And our zest land in the chat asks, when are the Dolphins going to take a receiver? Like they. I like what they're doing, but just a Caleb Douglas.

[Host]

They took take one right now. Caleb Douglas. Yeah, literally right now. It's great timing to bring that up.

[Bogman]

What the hell are the Dolphins doing? He's 216 on the mock draft database.

[Worm]

Big board.

[Bogman]

Caleb Douglas.

[Host]

Hold on.

[Fitz]

I mean, I. I don't dislike their draft in general until that pick. I liked what they were doing before that, so. Oh, no. Boggs.

[Bogman]

Is it somebody I hate?

[Host]

I haven't seen it.

[Seth Woolcock]

Oh, my gosh.

[Host]

I can't wait.

[Bogman]

I'm like five seconds behind you guys.

[Fitz]

It's Drew Aller. Oh, my goodness. God.

[Host]

When Fitz said oh no, I was like, who could it be? That's that you're not throwing away.

[Bogman]

I hate this pick.

[Fitz]

I. Oh my God.

[Host]

I'm not surprised you hate this Bogman. You wanna let me. Let me clear the paint here and

[Bogman]

let you know, reveling it so much.

[Derek Brown]

Worm.

[Bogman]

My God.

[Host]

For those who maybe haven't seen some of our earlier shows and discussions on the quarterback position, can you let Everybody know why you hate this pick so much?

[Bogman]

Because Drew Allers sucks. He's not a good quarterback. He is a statue. He is the frame of the quarterback that you want, but he is not a good quarterback.

[Fitz]

I, I, there's just something maybe he can develop.

[Bogman]

I don't, you know, McCarthy develops guys. So I'm trying to find some positivity here, man, but I just really do not like Drew Allen.

[Fitz]

I mean he looks like he came out of the, you know, off a conveyor belt at the quarterback factory, but he, there's just something he was last

[Bogman]

in line for brains.

[Fitz]

Then he, he can't process. I mean when he came in, when he was it Sean Clifford, he replaced like I saw that guy and I'm like, oh, this guy looks like a future number one pick. But then he just never got any better. And I mean by the time he left, I actually thought Christian Hackenberg was a better Penn State quarterback. And I know how everyone felt about Christian Hackenberg.

[Host]

I want to ask on Aller, I mean he obviously goes before Nussmeier. He goes before, you know, a guy like Cole Payton, who Debro liked, Taylor Green, like a high upside guy obviously behind Carson Beck. Just given the fact that it's round three and he's, you know, theoretically could learn behind Aaron Rodgers and is under Mike McCarthy and there's no other quarterback really competing with him. Like does this intrigue you at all with a third round pick in a super flex rookie draft fits. I mean we've been pretty strongly avoiding him in those mocks. Is this like.

[Fitz]

Nope.

[Host]

Give him a chance. No, just a hard no.

[Bogman]

Even though no, he sucks. This is a waste to draft pick

[Host]

sticking, you know, with the receiver position. The Falcons are taking a receiver, Zachariah Branch.

[Fitz]

Oh, gross.

[Host]

So he stays in the state of Georgia. Speed guy. Slot merchant. Merchant, according to some screen merchant. I should say not slot. But you know, he, this is somebody who has pedigree. He was a top 10, you know, recruit in the class

[Bogman]

and he's very fast. He's got a very, very high ceiling. You know, if he can develop a route tree, that'd be great. But he's never probably going to be good in contested situations. He's going to be like a, a reverse back, a screen merchant. Like you said, like design skiing touches type of a guy.

[Host]

Like there, there is room for targets. There's, there's, there are open targets in this offense sense behind Drake, London, Kyle Pitts and then whatever is going be Sean.

[Bogman]

Most of those short routes like that Though, I, I just, I don't really like this pick. You could have taken Brazil, you could have taken Bell. You could add some guy, a guy with some. Yeah. Teddy Hearst.

[Host]

Like, I think, I think a deep threat is a good move and you see the speed and you think deep threat, but that's not really the way Branch is used.

[Bogman]

So Josh Downs, this archetype just so

[Fitz]

rarely pans out for fantasy. I mean, the upper. The upside is Josh Downs. That's the upside. And Josh Downs is not an impactful fantasy player.

[Bogman]

Right. Yeah, man. Let's get some fantasy guys here. Come on.

[Host]

I was gonna say I'm, you know, I, I wish I could sound more excited. I guess I, I is. You know how I feel about it. But there's just not a lot that we've been really excited about. Where do you think with this landing spot fits? Where does Branch sound like the right spot for you on. In rookie drafts? You know, he was sometimes like a late second round pick for us in the mocks.

[Fitz]

I think he's still going to be late seconds.

[Bogman]

Late second.

[Worm]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

I'm not gonna push just because he's in the early third round. Like, if, if Brazil and Hearst and Chris Bell and Elijah Surat work their way into this round, I'm still gonna have all those guys ahead of the Zachariah Branch.

[Host]

Probably.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Bogman]

So.

[Host]

Oh, man, the Ravens take a receiver and it's none of those guys. I, I like Jacoby Lane, but that wouldn't have been my pick here.

[Fitz]

Big, big ball winner.

[Bogman]

Yeah. Perimeter guy, red zone guy.

[Host]

I, I like him not, not only as a player, but as a fit for what the Ravens receiving room needed. But again, there were other receivers I like better and I feel like they're. I, this doesn't feel like filling the. The need with the best player at that position or taking bpa. This feels like neither to me. So I'm not, you know.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Bogman]

I mean, like you said, I do like the fit in Baltimore. They needed a size guy. He can be an Enzo target. You know, him and Andrews can be those guys when it's not Derrick Henry or Lamar down at the goal line. But yeah, just in terms of fantasy, probably not our favorite fit for a run first team to take a white out that is probably there to block a lot. So. Yeah, not, not the, not the greatest fantasy asset, but not bad for your Ravens.

[Host]

I mean, I, I'm not gonna say it's a bad pick because nobody really

[Bogman]

knows anything but 99 catches in college over three years.

[Host]

But like, I I. I not think fantasy. But speaking as a Ravens fan, I would have definitely preferred one of the Bell. Well, at. Well, I, you know, Brazil. I was gonna say Brazil. I would have preferred. I would have preferred Surat. There. There are other receivers that. And, and I didn't feel. I mean, did you guys expect Lane to go in round three?

[Bogman]

I kind of thought I did not. Yeah, I thought it'd be like a border around, borderline fourth, fifth pick.

[Host]

That's exactly what I thought too. Like between the fourth and fifth.

[Fitz]

But then again. All right, so six, almost six, four and a half, 200 pounds, four, four seven speed and had a 40 inch vertical job.

[Bogman]

His. His mock draft database final like number was 109. So that had been early tomorrow. So maybe like a round reach based on public perception, but not. Not.

[Host]

Do you guys feel like this pushes him up for Fantasy at all? Like just getting this kind of capital? I mean, you, like you said run first offense.

[Bogman]

Yeah, dude, but it depends on where the rest of these guys go and how deep they go in the draft. If Jacoby Lane's a third pick, like a mid tier third pick and you know Surat and Skyler Bell end up in the sixth and that's a massive difference in draft capital.

[Fitz]

So it's, it's.

[Bogman]

It. It has to boost him up a little bit.

[Fitz]

All right, do we get a running back here with Carolina? Because, you know, you think Brazil.

[Host]

It is to Carolina.

[Fitz]

Oh, it is Brazil.

[Bogman]

It is Brazil. Yeah, that's good. That's a good pick.

[Host]

That's starting to turn into a fun little receiving room.

[Fitz]

It is not. It's. Little is not the right word.

[Host]

It's not the right. I think of little with Carolina. That's. I always try to describe the receivers. Wow. Yeah, that's a fun room.

[Bogman]

That is. That is a good room because now you have. You have Tet, you have Brazil, and then you have Leggette and Coker to share that slot role. Just need a tight end now so. And maybe Sanders can open up this year. You never know.

[Fitz]

Yeah, that is a good spot for Brazil. Does that spell the end for Xavier Legat?

[Bogman]

I don't know if it spells the absolute end, but I mean, he's definitely third in the receiving pecking order now. I think he's fourth Tet and. And Brazil.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Host]

And Coker.

[Bogman]

Yeah, he might be behind Coker and Chuba, so it could.

[Host]

Yeah, he's fourth in a non elite passing offense. That zero percent interest for me.

[Fitz]

Yeah, that's. That's a rough.

[Seth Woolcock]

What do we.

[Host]

What do you think about Brazil now as of. In terms of rookie draft value, the slanting spot?

[Bogman]

It's a great question, I think.

[Fitz]

Second rounder, do you want.

[Bogman]

Do you want Antonio Williams or do you want Brazil? Fitzy? I think I want Brazil.

[Host]

I think. I think I want Williams.

[Fitz]

I think I want Williams because I think there's going to be more catch volume and you know, we're playing a

[Host]

better quarterback and a clearer path to at least top two target.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Host]

There in the offense.

[Fitz]

Yeah. Jaden Daniels versus Bryce Young.

[Host]

But.

[Bogman]

But you definitely. You want Brazil or you want Jeremy Bernard?

[Fitz]

Maybe Brazil.

[Host]

I think. I think I'd want Brazil.

[Bogman]

Yeah. So that would for me. I had Antonio Williams at 13. I think you guys are right. I think you guys talked me into it. I think it's still Antonio Williams and then Bernard at 15. Just of the guys have. Have been drafted.

[Fitz]

Well, Bernard's gonna have Drew Aller throwing him bog. So you might have a.

[Bogman]

You might twist the knife. Fitzy, why don't you. I tell you what, if this.

[Fitz]

You might have a message waiting from Jake Seeley for you on Twitter, by the way.

[Bogman]

Oh, really?

[Fitz]

Remember we. We gave it to Jake for drafting. Where did he take Aller in our. Our mock draft, like in the third round and we were all over him.

[Bogman]

Yeah, I see it now.

[Fitz]

You got some payback coming your way, Bugs. God.

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah.

[Bogman]

Fits.

[Derek Brown]

Fits it.

[Bogman]

Bogman openly wept on our live stream after Jake tagged me. Oh my. I. I was definitely a crybaby.

[Host]

Oh, Tampa's on the clock. Pick 84. Let me take a moment to remind everybody that we have a day three stream Saturday. That's tomorrow at 7pm Eastern, where Fitz, Bogman and myself will break down the whole draft from a dynasty perspective and take your questions. Then next week we've got full draft breakdowns, Q&As, dynasty content and more. Make sure you're subscribed and locked in to catch it all. Be a very busy week for us. We have the stream Saturday and then three different days worth of taping shows with the three of us. So it'll be a lot of Fitz,

[Bogman]

Bogman and Worm gonna hate each other by the end of it.

[Host]

Yeah, well, I already kind of. I already kind of do. With this draft taking place in Pittsburgh, I'm gonna.

[Fitz]

I'm gonna hate trying to put together draft rankings for this because this is like just talking about who's like at the top of the top of the second round. Last year was like Tyler Warren and Cam Scatterboo. And this year, like, talking about who's

[Host]

at the bottom of the first round is gonna be rough. I mean, after the top 10 picks, I don't know what you do. Ted Hurst, by the way, does go here to the bucks with pick 84.

[Bogman]

Not my favorite fit. Right. Because they already have Godwin. They already have Igbuka, they drafted Jalen McMillan and now Ted Hurst. So not my favorite fit. But I. I like at least that he went in the third.

[Fitz]

I guess a vertical guy sort of makes sense, though, for the Buccaneers.

[Bogman]

Brazil or Hearst?

[Fitz]

Hearst.

[Bogman]

I think I'm gonna take Brazil there.

[Host]

I think I go Brazil to. I don't know what to make of Bryce Young long term, which makes it hard, it's true. But I think. I think I slightly lean Brazil right now.

[Bogman]

Yeah. It's just that I think there's. There is, like, a clear path for Brazil to be on the field more quickly, so.

[Fitz]

I can't believe the Miami Dolphins took Caleb Douglas of all these wide receivers. What on earth. Yeah, I mean, is the fact that they took him so high. Like, would that compel you guys? Because, like, did Caleb Douglas go in any of our mock drafts? No, not a one.

[Host]

I don't think we said his name a single time.

[Fitz]

I mean, do we. Do we have to move him into the third round because of this?

[Host]

I probably won't.

[Bogman]

I had him 26among wide. Receivers. Receivers.

[Fitz]

Yeah, that's about where I have him.

[Host]

I mean, it's.

[Erickson]

It's.

[Host]

I guess he got the day two capital, but it's not like he's stepping into some super strong passing game where it's like, well, the situation's so good, we have to bump them up even if we don't like the player. Like, the situation's not great outside of there being a whole lot of opportunity, but.

[Fitz]

Right.

[Host]

It's not gonna. You know, we don't expect this to be a prolific passing game. Yeah. Tight end here for Miami will cast

[Bogman]

Merrick,

[Fitz]

one of the better blocking tight ends in the class.

[Bogman]

Yeah, I mean, I guess if you're gonna hand the ball to HN 50 times a game, you need to be able to block for him.

[Fitz]

Yeah, I mean, the brain trust is coming from the PA A Packer organization that had Mercedes Lewis on the roster for a long time.

[Bogman]

You know, they just need. They need offensive line, they need edge rushers, they need interior defensive linemen, and there's guys left. I think you need that more than you need the blocking tight end. And I agree. You know, you can wait on these Guys, I'm surprised that we've seen Boricker and all these other, you know, tight ends.

[Host]

I know it has been a lot of picks where my reaction isn't I hate the player. It's did. Did they need to take him there?

[Bogman]

Marlon Klein.

[Host]

That's. That's right.

[Bogman]

Yeah.

[Host]

Another receiver not named Bell or Surat that Xavion Thomas, I definitely did not rank. Savion Thomas, I can tell you, goes to the Bears.

[Fitz]

Wow.

[Host]

Would this be more, I mean, saying you didn't rank him? Bogman, is this more or less surprising to you than like the Tesla pick from last year?

[Bogman]

This is the most surprising pick of this draft. I think this is more surprising than Borker. Like at least if you're looking for a blocking tight end, he's the best. Right. What are you looking for with Xavian Thomas?

[Fitz]

Well, I mean, does he play special teams?

[Host]

I was gonna say he has three career return touchdowns, two kick turning gadget role player.

[Fitz]

He does have four two eight speed. Four two eight freshman all America punt returner. Yeah, I mean he's a, he's a kick returner. All SEC kick returner in 2024. He's a, he's a kick returner. He was third rounder on a kick return.

[Bogman]

I mean, they have a proud history of kick returners, but kick returners were kind of, you know, going out of the game. Right.

[Host]

Feels like a bit of a heat check from the Bears coming off a really exciting season.

[Bogman]

Bell is still on the board, gentlemen. And we're taking a kick returner. What are we doing? This is, this is insane to me. This is still the third round. Like you can make these picks in the fourth and fifth even in this class.

[Fitz]

Well, look, this is the franchise that had Devin Hester and Xavian Thomas is a distant relative of Walter Payton.

[Bogman]

Okay.

[Seth Woolcock]

All right.

[Fitz]

Walter Payton, so I, I can understand the third is a franchise pick for the Bears here, but they could have

[Host]

made that pick returners even in the NFL.

[Bogman]

And Kaylin Black goes ahead of all the other running backs. What are we doing?

[Host]

Well, this is the 49. They have a history.

[Seth Woolcock]

Wow.

[Fitz]

A guy who is Kaylin Black was not even invited to the combine.

[Bogman]

Please go over all of those Day 2 Niners picks that you just mentioned, for God's sake. And just, just pen in.

[Host]

Is there any chance Caitlin Black doesn't end up on that list? We're doing a stream two years from now talking about day two picks for the Niners. He's gonna be on that list, right?

[Bogman]

What is Happening, guys.

[Fitz]

Kalyn Black is the third running back off the board, and he was not invited to the combine this year ahead of Washington, and he didn't start. He didn't start for his college team.

[Bogman]

Patron, at any point here, I'm gonna wake up and it's going to be day two of the NFL draft and it's not going to be. The Steelers took Drew Aller and Xavian Thomas goes ahead of Chris Bell.

[Host]

The Ravens didn't pass on Chris Bell to take Jacoby Lane, who, according to Matt Harmon, has the worst separation against man coverage of any receiver the last three years. Not this year. The last three years.

[Fitz]

Boy, the. The.

[Host]

At least the guy that you hated when they picked Bogman isn't gonna be on the field. My guy is gonna be on the field and not contributing the way I wanted him to.

[Bogman]

Oh, here we go.

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah, for the Dolphins.

[Bogman]

That's a good pick. There we go.

[Host]

Yeah, that feels like one of the biggest. The. I mean, to answer your question that you just asked Fitz, that feels like one of my favorite picks.

[Fitz]

He's raw, though. Like, he's. He is not a good route runner right now, but he's.

[Host]

He's really athletic and he has just an opportunity. I mean, nobody else how much they need pass catchers.

[Bogman]

He's. He is immediately your number one or number two pass catcher behind hn. So immediate.

[Fitz]

Immediately. He can't run right now, I think.

[Bogman]

Yeah, but he's. He, he. By the way, he was running a couple days ago. You saw him on the treadmill. So I think he's going to be fine for camp. So I don't know if he's going to be a hundred percent and guaranteed for week one, but he'll be close. He'll be like maybe, maybe a pup stint. But what do the Dolphins care about a pup stint this year? Right. They're gonna float down to the bottom and try to get Arch or. Or Dante Moore or somebody. They're. They're looking for their quarter or they're. They're looking for. I guess it'd be Jeremiah Smith next year. So who. Whoever this is because they.

[Erickson]

They.

[Bogman]

Simile. So they're going to sink to the bottom and get a high pick next year that they're not interested in competing in 2026 anyway, so might as well take Bell. I would have taken them where they took Caleb Douglas. I think if you switch these picks, they make way more sense, but they're not. I guess Bell's medicals were just not very good.

[Fitz]

So they got their Quarterback Bogs. They're not going to take Arch. They're going to take care of Smith.

[Bogman]

That's what I just said.

[Fitz]

Yeah, they're gonna take Smith.

[Host]

So Patriots on the clock here. They take a tight end. Another one continues around Eli Raridon.

[Fitz]

What do you think about him? Boggs? I mean, he is at least, I mean, I like him more than the guys who were taken earlier.

[Bogman]

He's more than a blocker.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Bogman]

You know, probably like, but probably like, like Tommy Tremble type production, you know.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Bogman]

It's a nice landing spot because it's only old manhunter Henry and like nobody else there.

[Host]

Henry's 31.

[Seth Woolcock]

Yeah.

[Bogman]

Old.

[Host]

So he's in his 30s.

[Bogman]

Yeah. Old man Henry. That's, that's a lot of mileage on, on Hunter Henry because he was, I mean, he was a big target for Arkansas, you know, so he, he's got a lot of mileage on him. And then it's Julian Hill who they sign and Jack Westover who's kind of a tweener. So I. Raritan's a good pick for them, just not very, not very fantasy friendly in my opinion.

[Fitz]

So, yeah, 462 speed.

[Bogman]

He could get there, but he's, he's a, he's a project pick. So I think, do you think, do you think he can contribute right away? Fitzy, you think he's better?

[Fitz]

No, I mean, like. Yeah, he is. He is probably a project. There's no way he's going to get on the field unless something happens to him.

[Seth Woolcock]

Well, that puts a wrap on Day 2, but the draft weekend is far from over. We've seen some massive shifts in the rookie rankings tonight and we're going to help you make some more sense of it all. Make sure you join us on our special Day 3 show. We'll be live on the Fantasy Pros Dynasty YouTube channel at 7:00pm Eastern Time this Saturday. We're going to recap the entire draft, talk winners and losers, and get you ready for your rookie drafts. For everyone here at Fantasy Pros, I'm Seth Woolcock and we'll see you Saturday night.

[Host]

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