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And welcome into the Fantasy Pros NFL Draft show. It's part two of our Senior bowl preview where we'll break down the top quarterbacks and running backs who could skyrocket their draft stocks in Mobile. I'm your host, Seth Wilcock. Absolutely fired up to be digging into a 2026 rookie class that I actually think is a lot deeper than it's given credit for. And of course, back in the fold with me is a man who was high on players like Jackson Dart like Jayne Higgins coming into this event a year ago. He's a Louisiana boy living that Texas dream. He's Derrick Brown. D bro. What's the level of excitement heading to Mobile this go around as opposed to previous seasons?
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I'm here for it, dude. There's a lot of freaking players that we're going to discuss on this show. And then we touched on the wide receiver tight end show that I am, I am really excited to watch and see and honestly see a lot of people in the process catch up in real time to being like, oh, this guy could play. So I'm here for it, dude.
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Yeah, absolutely. It was such an electric college football season that we just put to rest with Kirstignetti in the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national championship.
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The memes off of that are just delicious.
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It is great, Derek. I don't know if I've told you, but my freshman year when I was at IUP Indiana University of Pennsylvania, Signetti was actually the head coach there. His father coached there as well. So a lot of Western PA blood in that man and great for memeing. So I appreciate his services. No Indiana Hoosiers on the program today. We won't talk about Fernando. He will not be present here in Mobile, but we still have a great slew of quarterbacks and running backs that we're going to run through. And also a quick shout out to all those year rounders who are putting in the work with us as we head into the NFL draft process this season. Please use a quick favor, give this video a thumbs up if you're watching here on The Fantasy Pros YouTube channel. Also, make sure you're subscribing if you're new. We're trying to get to 300,000 subscribers by the NFL draft and we can only do that with your help. So we really, really appreciate the support. Derek, let's go ahead and fire it up with your top quarterbacks to watch. And starts with a quarterback that nobody is quite sure if he will make an appearance or not. It's LSU's Garrett Nussmeier, of course. His dad is Doug Nussmeier. He had a cup of coffee in the NFL as a quarterback. He is also now the New Orleans Saints offensive coordinator. Former four star recruit who's projected to be the top overall pick in this class just a year ago by many sharp analysts. Derek, that came after a 4,000 yard, 29 touchdown season in 2024. However, 2025 is just a season of turmoil for the Tigers as a whole. Right. We had head coach Brian Kelly fired after eight games. Nuss, he looked banged up for the majority of this season. Sat out after injury through those first nine games. Finished the season with only 2,000 yards, 12 touchdowns, five interceptions. He's 61205, so a bit undersized for the league and he was turnover prone. That was my big knock on him a season ago. But, but I will say, Derek, this is a very thin quarterback class, especially with Dante Moore returning to Oregon, John Mateer heading back to Norman for another season as well. So it's hard to overlook the, you know, pure arm talent that Nuss has at this point.
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Just breaking down his film and trying to build the best, most complete picture of him as a prospect. Yeah, like when you get prospects like this where there's medicals, there's wide variance between one year to the next. Like you need to be diligent and, and conscientious with how you're evaluating these players and take your time. I mean he, he's. I spent an entire day watching him breaking down his film. Dude, if we got the 2024 version of Garrett Nussmire, I would agree with you. He should be a first round quarterback, if not top of the second round. Did a lot of great things. Like I was texting Fitzy film when I was early in the process starting him. Just dots where he's lighting it up, dropping, you know, go balls in the bucket in 2024. But I don't know if we ever get that version of Garrett Nussmeier ever again. And a lot of it as I've dug deeper into the medicals one, I mean, let's just keep it a buck here. I don't think he was anywhere close to fully healthy for the entirety of the 2025 season. So evaluating his film and there's so much like, I mean dude, you know it better than I do. Injury reporting, whether you were to talk about at the NFL level or the college level, the collegiate level is just God awful. It's horrible. We don't get specifics. We don'. Get anything outside of crappy coach speak and what have you. So knowing how truly healthy or unhealthy he was last year and, and moving forward, it's, it's a black box. NFL teams are going to know this and I think we're going to see that projected in his draft capital. If a team feels good about his medicals, you could see him go in the third round of the NFL draft. If not, he might drop out of the NFL draft. Like, he might go round five, round six, maybe a UDFA guy like this is one of those like, okay, let's go back to yesteryear and a guy that went to the Senior Bowl, Seth Carson Strong, who had a lot of freaking medical problems and a lot of things where we're like, oh God, like, what version of this quarterback are we going to get now? Carson Strong didn't last long in the NFL and he wasn't long for it because the medicals were bad. And that's what I'm unfortunately worried about with Garrett Nussmeier, man. And I think we're going to see a lot of what we don't know projected in his draft capital, but just breaking down his game. Dude, in 2024, man, like, he had easy velocity, arm strength, can make every single freaking NFL throw. And that's not what you saw in 2025. He was much more limited. When we want to talk about the abdominal injury, the sustained in preseason practices, which I really think limited him a ton because you didn't see the same throwing mechanics. From 24 to 25, he wasn't able to like torque his body. He wasn't following through, driving the ball down the field. It affected his accuracy, it affected the velocity, it affected his ball placement. I mean, basically, if you watch 24 to 25, you're watching two dramatically different quarterbacks. And that's not only in the film and the skill set and how that's projected on the field, but it's also in how LSU ran their freaking offense and the limitations, like they basically told you in how they ran the offense that he was not 100%. And just some analytics to back this up. From 24 to 25, his deep ball rate dropped from 16.4% to. To 10.4%. His screen rate jumped from 12.3% to 20% and his play action rate dropped from 27% to 22.6% and his ADOT dropped off the 10 able. Dude. All of that Says he's not healthy, he wasn't healthy. Now I don't know if we ever get back to that because again, going back to his medicals, patellar tendonitis and 25 related to Osgood Schlager disease, which for everybody go Google that. It's related to chronic knee, knee issue. He had a. Which it can create chronic knee problems both whether it's tendonitis and in the future. And so that is the medicals are a massive part of how people need to talk about him and look at his game both now. And I think a lot of the way that people approach injuries is that they're like, oh well, he's had time, right? The teams and his rep say he's good, right? So he's good. Take with a grain of salt, man. I'm more, I'm more worried about what we see on the field from him if he goes to the Senior Bowl. Now, I don't know if he's going to attend the Senior Bowl. We're recording this as if he will attend it. So I hope he does and I hope he's healthy. But I don't know if we ever see the 2024 version of Garrett Nussmeier ever again, man. Because the 25 version is not a player that I think an NFL draft like a team needs to spend higher than a late 4th or early 5th round pick on. If the 25 version is the version of Garrett Nussmeier that we get moving forward, he was limited. I talked about all the accuracy issues, the velocity was questionable at best, the ball placement suffered. He's also a player that if you want to talk about, just like his pocket presence, he can suffer from, he doesn't feel the rush on certain downs and stuff like that. So the pocket can collapse and he's not a guy that where you're talking about high end athleticism and we talked about the knee where he's got escapability and he can do all the off script stuff. He's more of a pocket passer variety. So if we're talking about a pocket passer with only one good wheel that's affecting his entire game, that's just not a player that's even draft worthy for me. When we talk about the NFL and projecting him forward and I hate that dude because if we got the 2024 version of Garrett Nussmeier in the NFL and for the rest of the eternity, dude, he's an NFL starter. Like my comp for him is like in that Brock Purdy, Andy Dalton kind of phylum where he's an average NFL starter and he can have some high end moments depending on where the offensive line he's dropped behind in the scheme that he's asked to run. I just don't know if we ever see that again, dude. And it's sad. It is.
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And you know, part of the downfall I think obviously has to do with the injuries and I think part of it is he just lost some really good playmakers this past season. Right. He didn't have Mason Taylor anymore, he didn't have Kyren Lacy RIP and he didn't have Kaden Durham working out of the backfield like he did a season ago and C.J. daniels was in Miami. So I just don't like yes, he.
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Had Baron Brown Brown. Barry on Brown's a manufacturer touch guy. Barry on Brown's going to get drafted to an NFL team and he's going to the Senior bowl too. But we didn't discuss him in the wide receiver episode because Baron Brown is going to go to the NFL and he's going to be a manufactured touch guy. Right? Barry on Brown's going to get drafted because of what he does as a returner and on teams. What he gives you in the manufactured stuff as a wide receiver is just, it's extra icing on the cake. That's not why NFL teams care about Barryon Brown.
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So yeah, I just think between him and Xavion Thomas and Anderson kind of taking a step back that it just wasn't the year for LSU and it kind of all came down crumpling and it sounds like like really we're hoping for health as a Senior bowl, right? Like that's the biggest thing for nus. Just show up and be healthy and be talking and be looking chipper like that's what we want to see. Derek. Let's move forward though, to maybe the most controversial prospect in this entire draft class, Diego Pavia, the quarterback for Vanderbilt. This is a dull threat that brought Vandy its first 10 win season in program history the past year. Pavia, of course, finished second in the Heisman voting with 3,500 passing yards, 29 passing touchdowns, plus near 900 Russian yards and 10 touchdowns on the ground. He was named the SEC Offensive Player of the year and this follows a track record of success, including a winning 2024 season at Vanderbilt where they pulled off one of the biggest upsets of all time against Bama. And he was also named the 2023 Conference USA offensive Player of the Year. While New Mexico before That. So Derek, he is a bit of an abrasive personality to say the least. He is about to turn 24 as well. Comes in 6 foot, 207, so a little bit undersized. What's your initial read on him and what are you watching for with him next week down in Mobile?
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Abrasive is a wonderful way to frame that. That's very kind of you. I. I honestly could say with all the stuff around the Heisman, he acted like a punk. And sure, that's going to, that's going to affect, like, because, dude, if you're, if you're leading an NFL franchise or you're a leader of men and stuff like that, that kind of stuff impacts. How are you the face of a franchise when you're going to act like that in front of the media and stuff?
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Yeah, that's the thing. It's where it's like, dude, like, even if you feel like that and look, I'm not telling you, don't be upset because you didn't win the Heisman. What I'm just going to say to all of that is don't air all that stuff out in the freaking media and don't act like that when, when the cameras are turned on.
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Don't be flexing on your Instagram.
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Yeah. Like, don't do that kind of crap, man. Be smarter. Be better than that. Like all you're gonna do. Because here's the thing. What's the upside of that? Like, if you do that on social media and NFL teams, see all that kind of stuff, what is the upside? What are you hoping in the best of circumstances to accomplish?
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You're not hoping, you're not thinking when you're posting.
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No. Like, it's just. There's nothing but downside. So for Pavia, it's like, dude, just don't, don't just put your head down and go to freaking work, man. Man, put your head down and go to freaking work. And I don't look at him as being a polarizing player in terms of how I project him as a prospect. I look at his game as being very, very easy to project. I mean, he's Dollar Store Bryce Young, dude. All of the, all of the, the. A lot of the things that Bryce Young can offer you and a lot of the shortcomings, no pun intended, from Dude, Pavia lifted as listed as what, six foot? If Javier. Six foot. Dude, I'm six three. I'm just going to throw that out there and. But you see a lot of this stuff and how his game and how he operates and stuff like, you know what you're getting if you're a team drafting Pavia, you know the concessions that you're going to have to make in both how you're going to operate an NFL offense and construct that for him and how he's going to operate inside of that. I don't subscribe to a lot of misnomers and just, just cliches about quarterback and projecting quarterbacks. There is one thing that is definitively true. Quarterback height does matter and it affects how a guy can run an offense and what he does on a field. And that goes back to Pavia and what we've seen from Bryce Young at the NFL level. The, the ability or non ability to see the entire field. When you're that height behind NFL offensive linemen and to see the throwing lanes, it's just non existent. You're not going to have the same ability to utilize the middle of the field as a quarterback. That's 6, 4, 6, 5, 6, 6. And so you're going to have to use them on boots, you're going to have to use motion, you're going to have to bootleg him out. You're going to. And that's why he plays. And a lot of the quarterbacks that are that hype play as these, these players that they're, they're agents of chaos where they're, they're. They're either used on boots to help them as far as field vision and cut the field in half. So you're asking them to not perform full field reads because they can't, because they can't see the entire field while also trying to access the things that he does well as far as utilizing his legs and he's a player that's. He's not going to go out and run a four or five and stuff like that. He's more quick than fast and that quick twitch ability does serve him well both in the passing game and utilizing that through the passing game and as a runner. But he's not going to test well as far as like just blowing up the 40 and stuff like that. I'd be surprised if honestly he does run the 40 and a lot of this goes back to like metrically. You could see it expressed in his numbers like he's 53rd and deep ball completion rate, 53rd and 73rd over the last two years. And some of that goes back to the, to the size where he's a max effort thrower. If he's not able to set his Base you see the limitations and I say dollar store Bryce Young because Bryce Young has a stronger arm than Pavia does. And you see the limitations in the arm strength when he's asked to throw on the run and stretch the field where the ball he's not able to get the same type of arc on deep ball that players that are taller than him and have more arm strength can. So if you're asking him to operate in a system where it's very dependent upon screens and like Cliff Kingsbury, perfect guy for that for this type of quarterback and we've seen that with Kyler and how he utilized Jaden Daniels. Now Jaden's a taller guy and he could do other things in the passing game that Kyler cannot. But this type of, of area code of quarterback with Kyler Murray and Bryce Young and other shorter quarterbacks that have gone to the NFL. If you're going to ask him to operate in an offense where he gets on the perimeter or it's utilizing his legs, quick hit, quick hitting concepts, a lot of screens, a lot of perimeter stuff then or Russell Wilson in his prime. Now Pavia can't do a lot of the things that Russ could or that Kyler can. But because he doesn't have that type of arm strength. So as a max effort thrower when he has to to to threaten a defense down the field, you're not going to see the same type of ball placement from Russ and Kyler and guys that have stronger arms, hell, even Bryce Young because he just doesn't have that type of arm, the ball kind of peters out on him after 40 yards and stuff. Now he's not going to be asked to do that a lot because NFL quarterbacks aren't asked on, you know, the regular to sit here and throw 40, 50 or 60 yard bombs every single play. Hell, even like more than a handful of times in any NFL game. So can he do that? Sure. Can he operate that type of offense for you? Absolutely. But you are going to see limitations with how you construct an offense and what you're going to get out of him and the volatility week to week. Because dude, we see that, we see that with. How many times have we talked about from a fantasy perspective about the volatility week to week of Kyle Murray, of Bryce Young based off of the defenses they're seeing and how the game goes. Pavia is just the, the lesser version of the same archetype of player.
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Yeah. But because of this draft class being so thin now, it wouldn't surprise me if he gets day two draft capital. Like honestly it really would it surprised you, Derek, if he's. If we're sitting there Friday night in the fancy pros and if he goes.
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Round three, if he goes round three, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, if he goes round two, I would be in incredibly surprised. And that's just because of I think when you marry the skill set and and how that is evolved with the NFL and we have seen more of these quarterbacks show limitations and honestly fail in a lot of aspects. Like dude, we're still out on. Is Bryce Young a multi year starter for an NFL franchise?
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Right. Right.
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Is Kyler Mur like Arizona finally packed in the bags on Kyler and said nah, we're good, you know. So I think we're seeing with the NFL this archetype of quarterback is not in vogue as much it was a few years ago and how NFL teams are willing to run their offense and ask that quarterback to operate in the NFL. Like I would be shocked if he goes round 2. If a team takes him round 3 and takes a flyer, I wouldn't be shocked there. I think he's more probably a fourth round draft pick.
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Okay. No, it makes total sense. It just feels like, you know there's a lot of teams like my Pittsburgh Steelers out there who might want a gritty guy to be a bridge for a year. But you know, that being said, you mentioned the offense. It's not a pro style offense. It's not like a true triple option but offense that they are running down there and Vandy but it's certainly not a pro style offense that Pavio is commanding. So let's keep it moving here with the next quarterback prospect. We're going to discuss this. Cole Payton, quarterback out of North Dakota State. This is a dull threat FCS quarterback. He only has one year of starting experience under his belt. He compiled 2700 yards, 616 touchdowns through the air. Added nearly another 800 yards though on the ground with 13 touchdowns in 2025. I will say he was used a bit as a wildcat quarterback during his junior year when he had an additional 600 rushing yards, 13 touchdowns on the ground. Derek, I always root for FCS players, right. I really do because it's just such a great story. But the truth is there's not a lot of success stories at the quarterback position from the FCS level in the last decade or so. Like there's not Joe Flaccos and Jimmy G's walking around every single day.
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There's not a Josh Allen and there's not a Carson Wentz.
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Well, Josh. Josh Allen. Josh Allen. FBS. But, but G5. Right. So.
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Yeah, but, but, but we're talking about smaller schools and off the beaten path.
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Yeah, there's not a Carson wins. I mean. Yeah, but Carson Wentz had a. You know how to run there. But he's a backup quarterback. Right. So like you mix in the fact for me that he had one year of starting experience. I'm just out on copain.
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I want, I want my quarterbacks, I.
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Want my quarterbacks to have. Oh, we go, you know, multiple years of starting experience. So is there something at Senior bowl to rope folks like me back in who are uninterested? You think?
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Derek Dude, I'm going to put. I put my stamp on this. I'm a Cole Peyton truther. If you're. If I'm an NFL. If I'm an NFL GM and I have a fourth round pick and Diego Pavia and Cole Payton are both on. On the don't do it. I'm taking Cole Payton over Diego Pavia. I'm telling you right now because here's the thing. Cole Payton has all the traits that you're looking for from an NFL quarterback. He has the size, he has that dual threat ability. Now are we talking about a player that. Yes. He's coming from freaking North Dakota State. I understand all of that. I get it. Is there a learning curve both with the speed of the NFL, tighter window throws, condensed fields, all of that stuff? Yes, it is absolutely there. Dude. This guy has size, he has speed. He has effortless, effortless arm velocity that Pavia does not have. Dude, like six three and he is thick. He is built. You could use him in the design quarterback rushing game. And I'm just going to throw these numbers out and do what you will with them. I'm curious what your reaction is going to be, Seth. Okay. Amongst all FBS and FCS quarterbacks with at least 150 dropbacks in 2025, Cole Payton 18th and adjusted completion rate. 6th and a dot. 1st in yards per attempt and 1st in big time throw rate. You go over to deep passing. Amongst all FBS and FCS quarterbacks, at least 20 deep passing attempts. Ninth in deep throw rate. First and adjust a completion rate. You want to go to pressured situations. Amongst all FBS and FCS quarterbacks with at least 50 pressure dropbacks. 6th and adjusted completion rate versus pressure 59th and adjust and clean pocket. Adjusted completion rate and 4th and clean pocket passer rating. Dude, those numbers transcend the competition. Where if, if you were talking about a quarterback where it's like, okay, he's played against FCS competition, then if you want to talk about okay, then how are we, what do we want to see that quarterback do versus lower competition to make you feel better about going against NFL teams and NFL defenses? I want to see you freaking dominate and look like a damn stud. How did Cole Payton not do that last year in Passing stats ain't great.
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Passing stats aren't great.
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Okay, the box score stuff, everything on a per drop back basis and accuracy is freaking awesome. Awesome, dude. As well as there are moments in his film where you see the attributes of an NFL quarterback now talking about the, the, the offense that he was asked to run and people are going to talk about, oh, his time to throw is really high. Just tell me you didn't watch the film because if you're going to cite time to throw, just tell me you didn't watch the film because a lot of this offense was getting him out on bootlegs to both. And we talked about this with Pavia to cut the field in half to give him easier reads where he's only going to have to go to 1 to 2 if that or just the first read and the check down and if those aren't there, he's taking off running. Is that real? Absolutely. There are also moments in his film where he is in shotgun and he does the pure progression passing stuff where he goes from 1 to 2 to 3 to the checkdown. There are also times on his film, is he a see it throw at quarterback right now? Absolutely. That is a concern. That is also a concern for a lot of college quarterbacks in general where they come out and they RC it throw at quarterbacks where they are not anticipatory passers, where they play all in shotgun and we are like, can you play under center? Is that a thing that you can do? Those questions were there for Jackson Dart. Those questions were there for Jaden Daniels. There are questions there for so many college quarterbacks going into the NFL about all of those things, not just freaking Cole Payton. But it gets brought up in the conversation of smaller school quarterbacks as a way to shade them. And it's like, dude, you're just describing every college quarterback on a certain number of levels. And it's not just a small school thing that we're discussing here. There are moments on his film where he is an anticipatory passer. Are there worries about going from the level of competition where the NFL speed is, is going to be more pronounced than going playing in the fcs? Absolutely. Are there going to be more tighter window throws that are required for him and he's going to have to reel in that gunslinger mentality when you're talking about also to adjusting to a higher level of competition where you, you're not going to. He's not going to be able to get away with the same things that he did at the FCS level in the NFL, obviously. Absolutely. So that level and that adjustment is going to be there and it's going to be massive for him. But that level is there for every college quarterback going to the NFL. It's, it's. We're talking about varying degrees here, but are the NFL traits absolutely there for Cole Payton in smaller doses for some of these things? Absolutely. Dude. He has the size, the speed, the ability. He shows you some of the anticipatory passing, the touch passing is there on layering second level throws. And when this guy gets in the, in, in the backfield and he effortlessly throws a freaking deep out like it ain't nothing and he puts touch on it in the back corner of an end zone, that translates, man. I, if I'm an NFL gm, I'm betting on the traits and, and if like just you put him in a system like, like just off the top of my head, the freaking Colts where it is, you can go run heavy and it's play action and you could do a lot of things with both mobility and making things easier for him is both worth reading the field and stuff. If I was an NFL GM and I'm looking at a guy like could we burn a fourth round pick on this guy and we let him sit for a year and if, if he's pressed into starting at the end of his rookie season or in his second season and we give him, he gets a handful of starts and we're like holy crap, man. Like we might have a starter here in this guy. Hell yes. I am betting on Cole Payton if you're talking about a day three pick and he could develop into being an NFL starter. Absolutely. Abs. 10 toes down. 10 toes down.
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I love the enthusiasm, Derek and I've been hosting the Betting Pros college football show for two seasons now and I've kind of been the Pavia Denier, if you would. And we're an episode and a half into the NFL draft show and I think I've become the stand for Poppy on this show. So you are, you're keeping up for.
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There's no way in the heck I'm Drafting him over Cole Payton? No way.
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We shall see. Maybe we can find a little bit of a prop bet between Cole Payton and Diego Pavia and maybe I'll drink some, I'll even drink some juice on that one to give you better odds. But looking forward to seeing what he can do in Mobile and maybe if, if I'm wrong on that, to me it's just, hey, there's 136 FPS teams. Find one of them. If you want to go in the NFL draft, let's do that. I'm sorry about it. I spend enough time watching these small schools that no one hears about in the FPS. I don't need to venture into the fcs. But Derek, the exact opposite style of prospect of Cole Payton is kind of a guy like Arkansas. Taylor Green, who comes in next unranked three star recruit but has four total years of starting experience across Boise State and Arkansas, compiling nearly 10,000 passing yards, 59 touchdowns in his career. Also a great runner, put up an additional 2400 career rushing yards, 35 touchdowns on the ground in that span. The issue is here. He wasn't really a winner at Arkansas, right? Finished just 2 and 10 this past season. Sam Pittman, their longtime head coach, got fired. They brought him back in Bobby Petrino after those first five games. However, he's listed at 6 6. He's 224 projected to potentially have a sub 4 or 5 in the 40 yard dash. So what are your thoughts on him and what can he do at Mobile? Potentially move up some boards.
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He's going to have to show that he can be an accurate passer. Mobile is a really hard venue for quarterbacks to really differentiate themselves because there's so much packed into just this week where they're having to learn verbiage and a lot of the things and a lot of the things that that NFL teams get out of the week for Senior bowl we don't see on the field both in practices and a lot of aspects whether it's you know, running reps through versus air and installs and these coaches are putting a lot of these players in uncomfortable situations where they're going to microscope. Yeah but they're going to ask them to do things that maybe they haven't done a ton of because they want to stress them and see okay, well can you do this? Can you learn on the fly? Can you evolve your game? Can you do the thing things that we don't see on your film or the things that you're going to have to do in the NFL. So that's hard for especially a player like Taylor Green. Like the best parts of his game are what he adds with his legs and stuff, man. And I don't think he's a special runner even talking about that. It's more he's a build up speed guy. He has the size to be a goal line threat in the NFL, but I look at him as more of an opportunistic scrambler than a guy you're going to build like a QB run game around. So I don't look at him as like that's going to be a massive part of his appeal. But does any of that going to help him in Senior Bowl? Hell no, man. Like you know when you're talking about like the install periods and, and you know when they're running plays and stuff like that, like quarterbacks taking off, scrambling doesn't freaking matter because they're, they're not hitting and tackling like so it's not showing you anything and it's not showing any NFL teams and scouts anything. So that doesn't freaking matter. Now from a passing perspective, he reminds me a lot of Riley Leonard where it's like a lot of his value as a quarterback is derived based off of his legs and the shortcomings you see are as a passer where it's, you know, he's got a longer wind up, the ball can come out a touch late, his trigger needs to get faster for the NFL. His overall accuracy can kind of be spotty, his deep ball can lack touch. There are times where he throws some good layer, throws to the second level. There's other times where you're like, bro, don't fastball that. You're going to have to layer that ball and you can't put it on a guy like that. Both, you know, whether it's like you're throwing some hospital balls or you're limited yak opportunities for players. So the passing stuff is more of an adventure for him as well as the pocket presence. Like he's late to feel the rush at times to get. And he doesn't have like the high end athleticism to kind of write some of the checks to where he can operate in the chaos world and get it done that way. So I'm not a huge fan of Taylor Green. I think a lot of people are going to get, you know, enamored with the upside and the, the, the supposed physical traits. I'm just not there. So like if you were to bucket all these like rushing dual threat guys and you put Pavia, Taylor Green and Cole Payton all in the same bucket. For me it's I would order them Peyton, Pavia and then Taylor Green. But a lot of people could, could order the differently, man. Like they could, you know, put Peyton at the bottom of that or put Taylor Green at the top of it, depending on, you know, what they value out of a player. You know, like for a lot of NFL teams and scouts and stuff like that, just the stature of Pavia will take him off of a lot of different NFL boards just in general. So I think looking at those specific three guys that add something with their legs and what are they going to project to in the NFL? They're going to see, you're going to see wildly different grades for all three of those quarterbacks.
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Okay, well we're going to go ahead and shift gears into running backs. But first a real quick reminder that we are going live during the AFC Championship Game. Join myself, Seth Wilcock and Scott Big time bogman at 2:45pm Eastern time this Sunday for a first half betting live stream as the New England Patriots take on the Denver Broncos. We're me tracking line movement in real time, breaking down live odds and calling out Betsy as the game unfolds. Get in before kickoff or catch us live on the Bank Pros YouTube channel@YouTube.com betting pros. Let's go ahead and get to the running back position where Jonah Coleman comes in first and definitely a player who came into the season in contention for this class's RB2 spot and really did nothing away to take him out of that conversation. Derek, he followed up a 1000 yard season and 10 touchdowns at Washington with over 750 rushing yards and 17 combined touchdowns. First in the Big Ten this season. He also flashed a ton in the receiving game, right? Had a career high in receptions with 31 and receiving yards with 350 plus receiving yards in the best quarterback that he's worked with in Damond Williams, who causing all type of controversy right now in the transfer portal, got potentially sued by Washington, tried to enter and go to lsu. He's back with the Huskies this next season. But as far as Coleman goes, this comes after already having a very successful career as an underclassman at Arizona, right? He's 5 9, he's 228. So he certainly profiles as a power running back, Derek, but has enough vision and twitch for me that I think he can pop some big gainers in the league, right? So to me I, I think the question is does he have enough athleticism to offer that elite, elite upside in the NFL? Do you think he does and do you think he can put some of that on display at the Senior Bowl, Derek?
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I don't think that he has elite athleticism. I think he has good enough athleticism for his size and his skill set. I think that you're looking at the archetype of player of Jonah Coleman. I look at him very similarly as a Devin Singletary, as a player that he probably goes in round three, round four of the NFL draft. He's probably not going to be asked to be a team starter from, you know, from the jump.
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Sure.
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Could he operate it as a team's three down starter? Yeah, I think he can. Can he be better than his testing metrics on the field? Absolutely. Dude. We've seen a lot of these guys from the running back position that maybe they don't test good. But Kyron Williams 1.
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Kyron Williams, he's the famous one. I would say that.
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Yeah. Well, Kyron Williams, Tyler Algier is another good one. My comp for him. And people are going to hate it because there's so much context that is required about talking about this player's NFL career and paying off on the hype that when he entered into that situation, whether we're talking about off the field stuff or just a litany of injuries where people are going to hear this comp and they're going to hate it. And all I'm going to say to you is be kind and rewind to your thoughts of this player as an NFL prospect. He reminds me a lot of Clyde Edwards. Lair, dude. And I liked, I liked Ceh coming out as a prospect and did I get out over my skis about Ceh? Yeah, absolutely, man. But and Ceh, you know, obviously it's revisionist history. He should have never been a first round NFL draft pick. Jonah Coleman's not going to be that. But dude, Jonah Coleman has a starter skill set, no doubt. Jonah Coleman. Jonah Coleman over the last three years has ranked 54, 13th and 15, first in yards of contact per attempt. He's al also ranked in two of those three seasons. Top 10 in PFF, elusive rating as well as being top 24 in yards per route run amongst all FBS running backs with at least 20 targets. So the dude's got the analytics to back up what we see on field, on film and for his size and his stature. He runs with underrated power. He's got average burst, but he's got good vision. He pinballs off of guys on the second level as a runner, he's going to need some help from his offensive line to open up holes. He's not going to do as much as far as like creating a ton of yards for himself. And, and when we talk about the athleticism and a very similar, no, not a very similar player, but we all kind of talked about was Cam Scatter Boo athletic enough Right. To get it done in the NFL. Whereas we're not looking at Cam Scatter Boo and we weren't saying, okay, he's going to hit home runs and you're going to expect 50 and 60 yard runs. That's not the, the type of player that he is. But can he give you the 10, the 20 yard chunk gains? Jonah Coleman can absolutely do that. If you're expecting him to rip 50 and 60 yarders, you're not going to get that in the freaking NFL. But if you're expecting a guy that can pick up tough yards, especially for his stature, be a goal lineback, which could surprise people considering that his size, he can do that, he can rip off the chunk gains for you. And he has a three down starter skill set. And the biggest thing that I want to highlight for him, dude, he has got some pass pro reps that can make you go from six to midnight.
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When you watch him.
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Like I'm talking about, this guy gets down, has power, blows guys out of their freaking cleats. Like I'm talking about. I sent you clips where he's got guys coming off the edge and he literally takes them off the Big Ten edges.
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Keep in mind these are Big Ten edges too.
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Off the ground in pass, bro. So a player that could step in and he's going to earn a quarterback's trust because of what he can do in pass, bro. Oh, baby.
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Yeah.
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I like Jonah Coleman. No doubt.
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Yeah, absolutely. I think there's a big tear break in this class behind Jeremiah Love, but I certainly think Jonah Coleman, at least for me, he's in that two spot ahead of these next two running backs we'll talk about shortly. But Derek, first, I want to get to some more whooping suey on the program. Coming by way of running back Mike Washington, 62232 star recruit coming out of Northern New York State. Which makes sense why he began his career at Buffalo University for three years before transferring to New Mexico State and then again to Arkansas for a senior year. And what a senior year it was, my friend, finishing fifth in the SEC in rushing yards with over a thousand. That came courtesy of some big plays and a 6.4 yards per carry clip, the second best in the conference. DBro, this is a guy that certainly pops on screen, right? I will not deny that. Yes, I think he is also the ideal NFL size, right. But to me the question is this guy put the ball on the ground a ton. He also blew a bunch of pass pro assignments that would make Kaylin Green just get in some bad situations. So can he course correct some of that in Mobile, do you think?
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I think he can do not really like Mike Washington. Like if you were to ask me who are my top two running backs that I love the most out of this Senior bowl grouping, it's Jonah Coleman and Mike Washington. Wow. They're my two dudes, man. Those are my dudes. I really like Washington. I think he's got a three down starter skill set man. I'm higher on his pass pro skills than you are. I'm not saying that he didn't have some struggles in certain areas and he still doesn't have stuff to clean up in that area. But he also has some good pass pro reps throughout his film over the last two seasons, 140 pass blocking snaps. He allowed only one sack and six hurries. And this dude runs mean. Like he runs nasty. He is what you the one of the best ways that I and not to get cliche and entitly here but like he's a tone setting running back. Like this guy runs nasty when I'm talking about he could drop his shoulder and run a dude over if he needs to. He's muscular as hell now in some of this are his hips a little bit tight and maybe there's some run scheme limitations with him going to the next level possibly. But if we talking about also in the same breath, a player that has the prototypical size, he runs hard amongst all running backs at least 100 carries last year, 3030 yards of the contact per attempt, 17th and breakaway rate where if he gets a crease he can hit dingers do do like he's got upright running style but those upright runners, like the problem with a lot of those guys where you're like okay, upright runners can get cut down by a lot of these low tackles. Mike Washington runs through arm tackles like it happens sometimes with him. There are other times where it's not a problem man. Like he runs with a ferocity to his game that I respect and if you were to tell me we flip over the cards and he's a starter in an NFL backfield in two years, I'm not going to be surprised, man. Like my comp for him coming out and again I'm going back in the wayback machine for him. Chris Ivory oh Chris.
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Chris Ivory was a nice little player. I can remember leaning on him in some fantasy leagues back in the day, so I like that a lot. Also what I like Derek is our Fantasy Pros Discord community. This is a place where you can chat with other fans and and get access to exclusive AMAs that actually wind up on our podcast feed. Our current schedule looks like this. We have Worm and Fitz at 5 Eastern on the first Tuesday of every single month and then bogs and fits at 5 Eastern on the third Tuesday of every month. Come get your questions answered and be on the show@fancyprose.com chat Next up we have two running backs who I've had the pleasure of watching throughout their collegiate career. Up close and personal is Nicholas Singleton and K Tron Allen. Ada Pence State Hashtag we are baby. Two running backs who their best friends, their roommates, but have very two different stories here. Singleton highly rated five star recruit that the town of State College absolutely erupted on signing day. I lived in the town at that point Derek. Everyone claimed he was the next one, the next Saquon, the next running back who's going to put us back on the map. Little did he know 4 star recruit K Tron Allen would also join him and and they'd split the backfield for the next four years. Singleton finished his freshman year as the Big Ten Freshman of the year. He would go on to set the Penn State all time record for total touchdowns with 55 and rushing touchdowns with 54. He told nearly 3,500 rushing yards in his seasons there. He was electric also through the air, added over 100 receptions. Nearly a thousand receiving yards however really fell off down the stretch this past year. So much so that he actually lost the starting nod after James Franklin was fired. Had A career low 549 rushing yards this past season. Still though ideal frame 6 foot 225 pounds. Also elite top end speed home run ability on any play. Allen meanwhile played that change of pace role Derek almost his entire career until halfway through this past season, but still managed to set a Penn State record for the most all time rushing yards in school history with 4180. And despite Penn State losing Drew Aller at that juncture when Franklin was fired this past year, Allen still averaged 6.2 yards per carry for a total of 1300 yards this season. Won all Big Ten honors and he's kind of the opposite Of Singleton. Right patient, great vision, running back and stellar when you just need to pick up yards, when you just need to get that first down. However, doesn't have the straight line speed, doesn't have the pass catching chops of Singleton. So, Derrick Brown, pick your flavor. A Penn State running back. And what do each of them need to do to secure their spot on day two of the draft starting in Mobile?
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Oh, dude, I don't want to crush your Penn State hard. I'm lower on both these guys. Oh, no, no, no.
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You can lower one of them, not both.
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I'm lower on both of them. Like I, I see, I, I hear a lot of the speed and all this kind of stuff about Nichols Singleton, but dude, like, let's just talk about him analytically. So 2022 was just a banger season for him. He was third in yards at the contact per attempt, first in breakaway rate, 33rd in MPFF elusive rating since that season. He dropped to 125th in yards after contact per attempt, 56th and 152nd. So not good. Yeah, his breakaway rate went from first, like I said in 2022 to 140th, 44th. Okay, sliver of hope, 143rd this last season. And the same kind of trend with his elusive rating, man, 150th, 1 17th, 1 32nd.
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It's a bit of tunnel vision I feel like, and sometimes that that stops him from finding the hole.
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I just, I don't see a lot of wiggle in his game. I see a lot of like straight line, but like he's a linear player. Like, I just don't see a lot of like wiggle. And I, I see a player that's very dependent upon what his off is going to afford him in the NFL level. And the problem that I have with running backs like that is that you're not scheme agnostic. You're not situation agnostic. Give me the running back that can create yards on their own and I'm going to show you a running back that I don't care if he's dropped behind a lower tier offensive line or a, or a middle tier offensive line. He can create yards on his own. And that's just not what I see out of Singleton. And I mean we're talking about those breakaway numbers. Like I feel like the narrative of Nicholas Singleton's game is very much like going back to last process. How I was so divided against the consensus about quinch on Judkins where it was like everybody's like, oh, he does this and he does this and he does this and it's like, dude, the film to me doesn't say that. The numbers don't represent that. And I don't see that with Nicholas Singleton either, man. Like, and yeah, like, okay, we could talk about, okay, fine, like he was 15th, 22nd and 39th in yards per out run. But this like all world I've seen dudes, I've seen some people talk about him and David Johnson in the same freaking breath. And that to me, that's ludicrous. Where it's like I get the call utilize him utilized in the passing game. Like, dude, like he doesn't have the same type of change direction ability. And we're talking about just past game uses. In college he was utilized on swings and flats check downs.
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Y.
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You weren't seeing like, it wasn't like he was asked to line up on the perimeter in the slot. He's running slant routes, angle routes, wheels and all that kind of stuff. Can. Can he run the occasional wheel route and get it off on. On a lineback linebacker? Sure, he could do that. Is that something that he's going to translate to the NFL level in a linebacker that runs a 4 4? No, I don't see that happening, dude. So like my comp for him is kind of the dollar store version of David Johnson. It's CJ pro size. A player that a lot of people got enamored with the skill set and it never panned out. And that's unfortunately what I see for Nicholas Singleton and moving over to Katron Allen.
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Yeah. What about K Tron?
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I just don't see NFL level athleticism from him, man. He doesn't have the short area burst, he doesn't have the long speed. He's a player you're just going to ask to run in between the tackles and stuff. And is the vision good? Can he get to the second level and do some things with a jump cut here and there? Yes. But dude, if his NFL agent lets him go out there and test or run, he needs to fire him on the spot because I don't think anybody should be expecting Catron Allen to sit here and go out and test. Well, and I mean talking about that though, I just don't see like, and we talked about this earlier with Jonah Coleman. I just don't think that K Tron Allen meets the threshold of functionality as far as can he be a guy where you're. You're expecting him to be an RB2 in an NFL depth chart or an RB1 or a starter or whatever. I just don't see that, dude. Can he make a team? Can he be an RB3? Could it be a solid but not amazing guy and have a productive NFL career? Absolutely. But is he a player that, considering his burst and his raw speed are below average, he's at best when you. And he's also like, there are scheme restrictions with him, man. You're not going to run stretch zone and ask him to get the corner. That's just not going to happen, dude. So like can he operate in an inside zone scheme or a lot of gap power stuff? Yes, he could do that. But also there is a hard capped ceiling with a player like this, man. Like, so I think he's a player that's probably going to go on late day three, but.
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Okay.
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You think he's higher than that?
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I think he's day two. I, I think, I think Singleton will be in the second round potentially in that conversation with Coleman because Singleton's gonna go out.
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I don't see it.
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I think Coleman or Singleton's gonna go out and run a sub four. Four. Close to it. I think he's going to be in the low fours and to me, K Tron Allen, I think he's going to check every single box in the interviews and I think that's going to boost him up because I do agree the athleticism is not there for him, but I think he's just, he's. He's like a Kyron Williams. He's just good at football, dude. I can't really explain it, but I think he just has great vision and patience back there. Like, for me, it's. It's Coleman still over both these guys. But then I have K Tron and Singleton right there as my three and.
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Four, which I, Coleman and Mike Washington. I will, I will happily rank over Allen and I know that I'm going to be. Yeah, this happens every process though, man. People come out and think that I'm just slinging hot takes. I'm just following my process and what the film says. That's it, man. So you know, I'm not high on their own. I could easily be wrong, but I'm not high on their skill sets.
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No hot takes here from Derek Brown. Just McDonald's hotcakes, baby. He's serving up here. And folks, if you were waiting for that coveted converted wide receiver to running back prospect in this class, we have it, folks. Here you go with Clemson's Adam Randle. After three seasons as a depth wide receiver for the Tigers, Randle made the transition and it was a big part of Clemson's offense rushing for 800 plus yards and 10 touchdowns. He added 26 receptions and 254 yards in the receiving game. The issue is Clemson's entire team, specifically the offense under Cade Klubnick took a huge step back. I had them as a title bet. They were top five preseason ranked. They finished 7 6. Derek, there's a lot to like with Randle as far as he has the ideal frame right 62230 he's got the pass catching chops but it just feels like to me he would have to land somewhere very specifically looking to use that skill set for him ever to be fantasy relevant. And aside from that like we had Antonio Gibson's rookie season we had a moment where Ty Montgomery was relevant but these types of players that translated Tracy.
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Tyrone, Tracy also the same argument. Yeah I guess and a player that, that I will bring up shortly about that that was not the high end outcome. Go ahead. Sorry.
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No, I mean Tracy's probably the best example of a running back who has transitioned at the next level and I still don't think it's that great. So to me what does Randall have to do to break that mold?
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Because I'm out on him.
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I don't really want to touch him in dynasty draft. What can he do in Mobile though to maybe start changing that conversation?
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If anything dude, when people, people are going to lead the conversation with all of the oh wide receiver converted to running back in, in a positive light.
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Give me an example.
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Yeah, there's no examples. Yeah, that's I'm with you. We're, we're simpatico here where it's like people are going to lead the conversation. I've already seen the tweets out there where they're going to lead the conversation with wide receiver convert it's running back and oh the pass came upside blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. He runs like a wide receiver that turned into and I and I don't, I don't mean that in a great way like I'm just being honest about it man. Like you size very tall. To me he's an upright, he's a high cut guy. He's an upright linear runner but the problem with you look at it and this is like your fever dream opportunity or idea with a player like Adam Randall is that he turns into like a Rashad White. I just don't see that happening dude because the way that he operates and the way that he runs he doesn't Turn the size and speed and stuff into power. He doesn't convert it. And use his size and his nimble feet in the best way possible and break a ton of tackles. Like dude, just look at his analytics last year amongst all running backs, at least 100 carries. We're discussing a running back that was 113 yards of the contact per attempt, 126 than breakaway rate and 103rd in PFF elusive rating. None of that's good outside the top hundred in all three of those three statistical categories. And then when you marry that with the film, he's a tweener man. Like where it's like he's tentative at the line. He's not. The things that he does well, he doesn't do well enough to an nth degree that it covers up for the things that he doesn't do well like the wide receiver background. Clemson didn't use him at all creatively. They didn't put him in the slot. They didn't ask him to run a varied route tree as a former wide receiver, right? And you're just like okay cool, that's a talking point. But it doesn't come through on his film. And as a rusher, I mean maybe this is blasphemous if you put him side by side. Phil Mafa last year is a better running back than freaking Adam Randall.
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Still hot dog water.
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And Phil Mafa's on a practice squad and didn't even barely see the NFL field this year. So like people can miss me with the false hype of Adam Randall. I'm just not in, dude. And, and just to wrap a bow on all of this skill set, skill set and to go back to being a tweener where it's like I don't know if like Adam Randall should even stay at running back or if he converts to like h back or hell, you ask him to put on weight and convert him to being a freaking tight end. He reminds me so much of Jalen Samuels.
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Oh, I was going to say Roshad Johnson, but yeah, I think like those are kind of one in the same, right? And Jalen Samuels, I forgot man, that was a fun, that was some fun times we had.
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I'm bringing you back to your, your old, your old Yinzer days, man, your pre insert days.
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I was a fresh 21 year old sitting at the bar watching Jalen Samuels play Wildcat. That was fun.
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Oh, wide eyed and, and didn't know about the world yet. Seth.
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Yeah, I know, I know. That was certainly a time. But yeah, I'm with, I'm with you here in Randall. I, I have the the same exact feeling.
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I just don't see it, dude. Let's go ahead though.
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Let's round out the discussion here with another special Seth sleeper for you and Seth McGowan, running back from Kentucky here. Older prospect, he has bounced around for a couple of years including he did spend three months in county jail after being a four star recruit coming into Oklahoma. He then landed with New Mexico in 2024 where he was 6 in the Conference USA and yards from scrimmage with 1100. Finished second team all conference honors that year. He then transfers to Lexington where he led Kentucky in rushing this season with 725 rushing yards, 12 touchdowns, which is fifth in the SEC. He also added 19 receptions for 126 yards through the air. This was impressive to me, Derek, because Scott and I over on the BP College football show we joked every single week we talked about Kentucky. Their quarterback play was atrocious. They had big Zach Calzada who was terrible and then they had this freshman Cutter Bowley who did have a little bit of promise. Just got himself a nice nil deal. But I'm still not really a believer. The thing I like about McGowan though, prototypical size listed somewhere between 511 and 61210 to 215 pounds. Very shifty as well. Every time you turn on Kentucky this past year, this guy really jumped off the screen to me. Has a lot of angry runs, a lot of burst. He's more of a bit of a downhill runner. So to me I think he's like best suited for that power run scheme. Kind of like a Kellen Moore with the Saints type of situation, but a better pass catcher than he's given credit for. Did a lot more of that before he came to Kentucky. So I'm really looking forward to see what he can do in the receiving drills in Mobile and I am a bit concerned about the max speed right? Like I don't think he's a a burner by any means, but I'm excited to see what he can do out in the open if he can outrun some of these defensive backs and linebackers. My comp for him. Another former SEC running back Rico Dowdle where I think he could be your spot starter in the NFL for a couple weeks. But he's more of a straight line guy, right? More of a great change of pace guy, a few weeks starter than an every down type of guy. So right now he's kind of in that rookie RB10 range according to mock draft database. But I think maybe a good showing in Mobile jumps him up the board a little bit.
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Your thoughts here on another Seth dude, he runs angry. And the best way that I contextualize this for people and people will know this if you've watched any NFL games and it's been talked about and talked about, but it's true. He runs like he's pissed off at the ground. Dude, he reminds me so much of like he doesn't have the raw athleticism that this player does, but his running style where it's herky jerky, he's got some juice to it but he honestly, he pounds his feet into the grass like he's mad at the earth. Like he's like, ah, I hate you.
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So much, I'm going to turn you up.
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He reminds me of Isaiah Pacheco, man. Okay, yeah, similar, similar Isaiah Pacheco with a little bit less like if you turn down the knob on the raw athleticism and the speed and stuff like that, that's who McGowan reminds me. And yeah, he's a physical downhill runner. He has no issues. He's more of a one cut, get downhill kind of guy. No issues dropping his shoulder and running over guys. He's not the home run hitting type, more of a chunk runner. Only 24 runs of at least 15 yards in college with 378 carries. You did bring up and this is going to be a thing that we don't know about with interviews and the off field stuff with NFL teams and I don't bring this up for every player. But you, you alluded to this. It does and it will get brought up in meetings and stuff like that because locker room and NFL and just culture and finding out who these players are as humans and individuals. He does have the in his background. Like you mentioned, he was dismissed from Oklahoma, he was found guilty of larceny, was on probation for a year. So he is going to be asked about that in NFL circles and in the meetings and stuff like that, but kept his nose clean this final year and stuff like that. So like dude, like everybody deserves second chances in life. I mean the kids got some juice man. So I don't think he's going to go high in the NFL draft. But much like Isaiah Pacheco like type of ascension, if you were to tell me we flip over the cards and injuries and what have you, he gets drafted in the sixth round and he's serves as a starter for an NFL backfield for. I don't see him as a multi year starter but a guy that like injuries happen and he has like a Kamani Vidal type of run to close the season, I wouldn't be shocked at all, man.
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Yeah, I mean we've seen running backs come from that area of the draft. Kyle Menon guy right last year who was very useful for fancy purposes, who's a late round pick. So yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do starting this weekend or this next week in Mobile. Derek that is going to do it for us. So on this episode of the NFL Draft show, big thank you to everyone who's been rocking and rolling with us through these first two episodes. Be sure go check out part one if you haven't already. We broke down the top wider series and tight ends to watch at Senior bowl right here on the Fancy Pros YouTube channel and the Fantasy Pros Dynasty audio feed. We will have a ton of other content coming for you guys over the next few weeks right here on the Fancy Pros channel on the Betting Pros channel. Plus a ton of tools over there and articles on the Fancy Pro Pros website. That's fancyprose.com While you're here, make sure you're smashing that like button and subscribing to the channel. If you're new for Derrick Brown, I'm Seth Wilcock. Take care y'.
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2026 NFL Draft Special | Senior Bowl Preview: Top QB and RB Prospects Who Can Skyrocket Their Draft Stock
Released: January 23, 2026
Hosts: Seth Wilcock and Derrick Brown
This episode is Part 2 of the Senior Bowl preview, focused on the draft’s top quarterback and running back prospects who could surge up draft boards with strong showings in Mobile. Seth and Derrick break down key evaluation points, risks, and upside for each prospect, providing actionable context for dynasty fantasy players and NFL draft enthusiasts. The discussion is candid, analytical, and sprinkled with personal observations and memorable, unfiltered moments from the hosts.
“If we got the 2024 version of Garrett Nussmeier in the NFL and for the rest of eternity, dude, he's an NFL starter... I just don't know if we ever see that again, dude. And it's sad. It is.” – Derrick (08:27)
“If Javier is six foot, dude, I'm six-three.” – Derrick (12:27)
“I think he's more probably a fourth round draft pick.” – Derrick (18:46)
“If I'm an NFL GM and I have a fourth round pick and Diego Pavia and Cole Payton are both on...I'm taking Cole Payton over Diego Pavia.” – Derrick (20:32)
“10 toes down.” – Derrick, defending Payton’s upside (26:59)
“I would order them Peyton, Pavia and then Taylen Green.” – Derrick (32:13)
“Over the last three years, [Coleman] has ranked 54th, 13th and 15th in yards after contact per attempt. He’s also been top ten in elusive rating two of three years.” – Derrick (35:00)
“He has got some pass pro reps that can make you go from six to midnight.” – Derrick (37:34)
“Jonah Coleman has a starter skill set, no doubt.” (35:00)
“If you were to ask me who are my top two running backs that I love the most out of this Senior Bowl grouping, it's Jonah Coleman and Mike Washington.” – Derrick (39:23)
“He’s a linear player... the dollar-store version of David Johnson. It’s C.J. Prosise.” – Derrick (46:43)
“You think he’s higher than that (late Day 3)?” – Seth (48:56)
“He’s just good at football, dude. I can’t really explain it, but I think he just has great vision and patience.” – Seth, on Allen’s intangibles (49:22)
“He reminds me so much of Jalen Samuels.” – Derrick (54:27)
“There’s no examples [of positive WR-to-RB conversion].” – Derrick (51:37)
“He reminds me of Isaiah Pacheco, man. Similar, similar Isaiah Pacheco with a little bit less [athleticism].” – Derrick (57:40)
“If you were to tell me we flip over the cards and injuries and what have you… he serves as a starter for an NFL backfield... I wouldn't be shocked at all, man.” – Derrick (59:08)
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Running Backs
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