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Derrick Brown
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Seth Wilcock
All right, and welcome into Fantasy Pros live on Twitch. It is Wednesday, August 20th and we've got another fantasy football Q and A coming your way right here on Twitch TV fantasypros. That's where you can follow us for all the live interactive content Monday through Friday. I'm your host, Seth Wilcock. And riding shotgun with me is a man who I'm sure is grinning ear to ear as his kids return to school and he reclaims him his homestead ahead of the football season. Derrick Brown, DBro, how are you? As you send the kids back away for eight hours of state provided child care?
Derrick Brown
Bro, it's the one thing I'll say. And everybody that, that has like school age kids out there that knows or especially like high schoolers and stuff. The one great thing is I know that the grocery bills get a little bit less during the school year because it's like all right, got to worry about breakfast D, got to worry about lunch and it's got to feed him dinner, man. So it's like as opposed to the summer where I'm like dude, y' all ever stop freaking eating? Like I just went yesterday. How did you polish off two boxes of Twinkies, a box of Fruit Roll Ups and a damn box of Ding Dong in 12 hours. How did that happen? How so. Yes, it's very nice, Seth.
Seth Wilcock
Well, I'm glad you have your peace of quiet and your counter cabinets back to to your disposal for you over the next couple weeks.
Derrick Brown
Over here. Hiding freaking snacks in the office. We don't eat all of them. It's tough, man. Savages.
Seth Wilcock
Go ahead everyone. Drop your questions below. We'll be sure to get to them. And after the program, make sure you're checking out the Fancy Pros YouTube channel and the podcast feed for some very fun full length episodes and some short form content. And be sure to check out yesterday's Fantasy Fest as well. Dbro, you were live there with Worm, we with Ericson, Joe, Pia and the Fitz and the whole gang and a lot of awesome guests from around the industry. Seems like it was a great time. Anything you Learned or came to terms with during the fest.
Derrick Brown
Dude, it was a fantastic, fantastic show, T. Fantastic program. And I know we said this pre show and I want to say this and highlight this adamantly right now. Shout out to everybody in our production department, Everybody behind the scenes, everybody on the mics and everything. The graphics were freaking amazing. The show flowed amazing. Like, everybody just did a wonderful job. So everybody behind the scenes that doesn't sit in front of a camera, doesn't sit in front of a mic every day. Like, absolutely crushed it. And our team needs to know that, get the light that they deserve and the flowers they deserve. It was absolutely amazing. Whether that's Cali Jackson, Seth John, everybody, just absolutely crushed it. So whether you want the analysis of the advice or you just go and tune in and just watch all the spectacular glory of just the presentation of that show. It was stellar from start to finish. And another person, I want to shout out real fast. I was not. I just. Shaq, mean this. I was not familiar with your game, sir. One of our spots yesterday was done with dan Johnson from DraftKings.
Seth Wilcock
Sure.
Derrick Brown
I immediately freaking followed him right after the show. He was awesome. I. I never interacted talk ball with him before. All of his research points, everything was absolutely spot on and wonderful, man. So if you're not following Dan out there right now, go, go hit up my ex, check out my followers, my most reasons and stuff like that. Give that man a follow because he knows ball.
Seth Wilcock
When you said hit up your ex, I'm thinking like, ex girlfriend for a second. But then it kind of came back to me that have a hard time finding that. Yeah, but no, dude, it was a really, really good program. I tuned in for a large portion of it. So hats off to you, hats off to the production team, all the great guests we had on and shout to the listeners as well. Matunda also saying incredible fantasy fest this year. Been watching for years, and it was incredible. Who are your biggest risers over the last week with all the camp news? So, Dbro, we also have Nick checking in asking who the biggest riser in the rankings was. Is it Bill? Is it jcm? Also Bill cm, I guess bcm, as we're calling him these days.
Derrick Brown
Dude, I've seen for anybody that likes old snl, the Bill Crosby merit has been out there too. Like anybody needs to just go. Just go google old snl. It's. It's fantastic. But dude, yeah, jcms, Jacori Crosky. Merit has been a big riser for me. I mean, right now, I was Updating notes and rankings on fantasyprose.com this morning again right now we are in news season so have to keep your head on a swivel. Right now I am doing projecting with this but with all the news that we're currently dealing with and I want people to follow that if they're doing drafts right now, this weekend, tonight, tomorrow, everything I have moved up Jakory Crosby merit up to RB32. So I am projecting with that ranking that Brian Robinson Jr. Is either traded or cut or not on this team. I know there's projection, but as we get more news, I'm going to sit here and move the rankings and stuff and I want people to be in tune. So I think he deserves to be drafted somewhere. And if you're using real time ADP on fantasypros.com that is another fantastic resource. Whether you're pulling the news and everything else. Like you have the app, the all in one app this year downloaded all of these things are meant to keep up with all of these things quickly that can change these rankings. Like right now I'm talking about before all of this news, Jacori Korsky, Merritt was a player that was ranked somewhere in the RB 60s or 70s or the RB on the depth chart. Now with the news that we're getting, If Brian Robertson Jr. Is not on this team, if he is cut or traded, JCM deserves, Bill deserves to be drafted in that RB3 territory. So if you have drafts coming up, not only should you be doing mocks on the draft simulator, not only should you be keeping up with news on fantasypros.com with the app, you also need to use real time ADP so you're understanding how these things are shifting because the adp, if you're drafting on Yahoo or ESPN Sleep or whatever, it's not going to catch up right enough. It's not going to correct. So you're saying to yourself, okay, well I mean how early is too early? Should I be drafting him here? Is this a reach RB3 territory? The other guy I'll shout out here and and I updated ranks this morning and I even threw this out here and people are telling me I'm still too low on him with all the stuff that that hit the timeline yesterday with with Jalen McMillan possibly being out till after week.
Seth Wilcock
Yes.
Derrick Brown
Oh my God, dude. And, and the Chris Godwin news. I moved up a mecca Buca a ton. Like right now he's my wide receiver 32 and some have said that that's still too low. I think that's comfortable and I want to, I don't want to be too reactionary with that, but I think somewhere in that like high end to mid wide receiver 3 range is exactly where he should be. Now chat, y' all could tell me if I'm wrong with that. If I'm too, too low or too high on him, please let us know. But Seth, what do you think about that with, with Bill and jcm or excuse me, Bill Anika, where are you at with them?
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. So those of you who did not catch the news, Washington Commanders running back Brian Robinson Jr. Did not play in Monday's preseason game. This, according to Adam Schefter, is signaling the end of his tenure in the nation's capital. So for me, I was already, I felt like really high on jcm. I was taking him last round with a lot of dart throws, have a ton of best ball exposure, have a lot of people already sending me some garbage dynasty trade requests for him. Get out of here with that. I ain't taking your Jack Besh for JCM right now. Even though I like Jack Bash. I ain't doing that. But to me, dbro, I came into a decision yesterday. Last night on the IBT podcast, I was doing a mock draft and I had to face a decision. Do I take Javante Williams over jcm? I did, but I think that's the line for me. I, I think I'm right in there with. You are currently RB31. I moved him above Joe Mixon. I moved no above Jordan Mason and Travis etn. That's kind of the line for me. What about you? Are you, is he above etn? Is he above Mason for you?
Derrick Brown
I think right now if we're living in the world of, for me at least it's that that same type of tier of like you're talking about Javante Williams, Tank Bigsby, Jordan Mason, J.K. dobbins, Tyrone Tracy, Jalen Warren. I think that's the realm where I think Bill Jaquori, Krosky, Merritt should be drafted somewhere in that range where we're talking about, whether it's volume, roll, touchdowns, probably in that, in that range of where we're talking about. In the best case of circumstances they can be low end RB2s or they're probably better viewed as like standalone flex plays or RB3s right now.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. And just to kind of follow up there with the Ameca Abuka take as well, Tampa Bay Buccaneers wide receiver Jalen Millen, he was placed on IR Inter reserve with a neck injury. He will Miss at least the first four games. So to me, I've been rising on Abuka. He was my wide receiver too in the process. If we go back to the NFL draft show and I tried to like really temper my expectations and redraft dbro just because it was a loaded wide receiver group. Before this news, I had him at.
Derrick Brown
Wide receiver 38 and now they're dropping like flies, dude.
Seth Wilcock
I know. Yeah, it's. It's a tough scene out there with McMillan. We don't think Chris Godman will be ready to go as well. Right now I have him up at wide receiver 35 now. However, you could start making the case. Should I take him over Travis Hunter? Should I take him over Jerry Judy, Marvin Harrison Jr. Those are the three. I don't know whether I move him above. Is he above those guys in your rankings? He.
Derrick Brown
He's not above Travis Hunter, but I think right now the realm he's living in for me and my ranks differ from consensus. Like I'm not as high on Marvin Harrison Jr. As most or DJ Moore, but right now I think he's in the. I think. I think him and Zay Flowers are. Are basically like the.
Seth Wilcock
Wow.
Derrick Brown
Like it's. I think that's where I'm at. Where Zay Flowers has been wide receiver 31, wide receiver 32 and fantasy points per game over the last two years. What's the difference in him and a Mecca Buka? And honestly, dude, like, I mean, if. If IG Buka is going to operate as the two in the Bucks passing offense for most of maybe the entirety of the year, why shouldn't he be ranked above Zay Flowers? Because we know Tampa Bay is going to throw the ball more than Baltimore.
Seth Wilcock
It's a great point. It is certainly a great point. I think the only thing that could hold a Mecca Abuka back is we do have the changeover and offensive coordinator down there in Tampa Bay. But Baker Mayfield was that one outlier quarterback last year with just an insane touchdown rate. So I'm not expecting, you know, 40 plus touchdowns. But at the same time, Mecca has always been the guy who was going to get on the field because he's a great run blocker, he's a great teammate. He can do everything from route people up underneath to taking a deep shot. He can do a little bit of everything. So I'm right there with you, man. I wanted to ask you about Rasheed Rice as well. With the news coming out that initially the NFL was looking for a 10 game suspension, the PA pushed back so there's no settlement on when that will be. Where are you dropping Rice in your rankings? Because right now I have him all the way down at wide receiver 39, and I'm not sure where to go from here.
Derrick Brown
To be honest. Dude, I didn't move him at all. He's wide receiver 25. And I don't think. See, here's the thing with Rice. If his representation doesn't feel like they had a case.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
To push back and push back hard against the BS that the NFL is trying to do because there's no previously established statute for 10 games. Like, there's nothing there for that. Like, that just feels like we're going to make an example out of this guy. And that's kind of where it comes down to me with the NFL. Like, everybody can cite, oh, it should be five or six games. It should be four. Dude, the NFL does whatever the heck the NFL wants to do. And this is one of those things where, like, they pushed 10 games. His. The NFLPA and his representation said, nah, man, I'm gonna get. I'm shooting you the bird. You're not getting that. That's not what's happening here. So right now I'm kind of projecting, I think cutting that in half and he gets five games, I think is totally fine. And if that's the. If that's where he lands, though, we already kind of knew he was gonna probably land in that four to six range. So depending on where that happens or if that's the case, why are we moving him in rankings down at all? Because isn't all of that just kind of a nothing burger? And basically we already kind of knew, like, if that's where it lands, then he lands kind of in the spot where we already thought he was going to land. And being a wide receiver three, to me, it was. It was. It was. It was a lot of news that I think didn't move me at all because it was like we already knew he was going to miss a bunch of games. You were already accounting for that and how you were building your teams. And then it really just comes down to when he's back. What do you think he's going to be? I think he's going to be a wide receiver two with wide receiver one upside when he's back. Well, then you were already accounting for that, how you were building your teams and how you were drafting. So what's the difference?
Seth Wilcock
You might be right. Maybe I am overreacting to the news. I just, like, can't fathom Stomaching a player who could miss half the season on my team. I just don't want to. Like, burning up that roster spot is more just damning than anything to me. Right. Like, I just hate doing that.
Derrick Brown
But you're not drafting him to be your wide receiver too. On squads. Right, Seth, you're drafting to be a flex or your wide receiver 3. And when he's back, he outproduces. This is just a zoom out of. Well, then I'm just trying to float the boat until he gets back.
Seth Wilcock
Right. Right.
Derrick Brown
And if that's the case, then what's the difference here? You know, then. Then it comes down to what are you projecting as far as games missed? If you're on the high side of like, it's 8 to 10, then I understand your ranking.
Seth Wilcock
Sure.
Derrick Brown
If you're in the. It's probably a four to six bucket, like where I'm at.
Seth Wilcock
Right.
Derrick Brown
And somewhere probably as a wide receiver, three makes more sense.
Seth Wilcock
Well, keep. Keep your head on a swivel for that one, guys. We're gonna see you win this.
Derrick Brown
Can we just get this announced?
Seth Wilcock
I know why, man.
Derrick Brown
Like, but again, that delay in this announcements, if this was more of a open and shut case, like Jordan Addison, right?
Seth Wilcock
Yep.
Derrick Brown
You know, Jordan Addison, like, his representation was like, bro, this is the best we're getting. Shut up. Deal with it. Get it over with. Let's get this out the way. Announce it. Put this in your rearview. If Rashee Rice's representation didn't feel like they had a case and they couldn't push for this, then tell me, why wouldn't they just be like, look, get this over done with. Let's get this. Exactly. There's no push back. We can't do anything about this. Yes, it sucks, but you got to deal with it.
Seth Wilcock
Let's get it done.
Derrick Brown
And in the rear view, if that was the case, why wouldn't this already be in the news, known out there and done with? The fact that it's not, I feel, is the signal that. That a lot of people are missing. The fact that this is still being fought under the surface by his reps leads me to believe it's either going to come in lower or it's going to be in that five to six range.
Seth Wilcock
Interesting. Yeah. I mean, it's one of those things that you got to risk it for the Biscuit here. Right. We got to put on our big, big boy and big girl pants. Yep. We saw it the same thing a couple years ago with the holdout and the injury for Jonathan Taylor, if you took him in the seventh, eighth round in 2023, you're very happy. But then there's the other side of the coin too, where sometimes this doesn't work out in your favor as a fantasy manager. But we shall see what how this plays out here. I wanted to get to a couple more questions and comments here. Would you take Bill over Echler? Derek? Yeah, I don't think it's really that close for me.
Derrick Brown
Eckler doesn't have. We know his role, what his role was going to be as the pass catcher in this backfield. He doesn't have upside to be a workhorse. Whereas like if Eckler goes down, if they don't like if, if Bill is playing really good and Eckler goes down, could we see like a Brian Robinson plus role? Could this be he's a workhorse. They seed a little bit more of the volume. Maybe some past game work that doesn't go to maybe a McNichols and he goes to Bill. That's where it's like Eckler's fine and best ball streets. Like you want to make the case for him versus like Justice Hill or other pass catching backs. Fine. But there's no ceiling with Austin Eckler worse versus like Bill. Yeah, there's a ceiling outcome there.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. And let's not forget the reason I think Jakori Krasky Merit went so under the radar during the process is didn't get to play at Arizona last year. Was fighting getting the NCAA on some legal issues with his transfer screwed him. Yeah.
Derrick Brown
So NCAA screwed him over. Like let's just call it.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, hey, dude, I'm not, I'm.
Derrick Brown
Like I, I have no allegiances or worries about the ncaa. Like they screwed this kid over.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
He had a fourth round grade for me in the draft. He should have gone somewhere in the fourth or fifth round at least even a deep running back class like we talked about. A man like I, and I'm not alone with that. I know Mike Renner and other people out there were high on him as a prospect. I really like the kid. But what the, what the NCAA did to him and, and really hurting his NFL draft stock was honestly a travesty. They should be ashamed of that.
Seth Wilcock
Hey, that, that's NCAA football though, right? That's what they do.
Derrick Brown
Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, let's, let's push back about, about all these collegiate kids making money and, and protecting themselves versus the NCAA that doesn't care about them. Yes, let's go. Let's side with big, big NCAA here. You'll never hear that out of me.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, took Reggie Bush's Heisman away for all those years too, man. Just. Yeah, it's absurd.
Derrick Brown
It's ridiculous.
Seth Wilcock
Before we keep it moving, I did want to let everyone know that the team here at Fantasy Pros will be taking your questions all week right here on Twitch TV. FantasyPros Erickson and Tom Strock. And they talk best ball Mondays at 4 Eastern Time, Tuesdays at 7pm Eastern Time. Well, that's Bogman and the Welsh. They're playing Madden 26 live. Talked to Bogman the other day about that. He was not super confident because he was going to run out the Steelers for the first game. Like, dude, you don't have to play with. Yeah, you don't have to play with your favorite. Yeah, exactly. I told him that.
Derrick Brown
So now you pick good teams to sit here and use a Madden Bogman. Come on.
Seth Wilcock
Sometimes I like using the worst too. Sometimes I like using, like, Cleveland or, you know, someone that's kind of like poo poo. And then. Then when you beat someone with them, you feel good. But also on that schedule, myself and Debro, we're here at Wednesdays at 2 Eastern Time. We're always taking your questions. And then also some more Q and A is coming your way Thursdays and Fridays at 5pm Eastern time, taking you into your weekend. I'm here with Terrell tomorrow, 5pm Eastern time. So looking forward to that. Please give us a follow and ask questions live right here on Twitch. And we'll be sure to get to them. And wanted to shout out our guy Schrader who just followed us. What's up? Schrader? Is that he named after Kenny Schrader? Curious. Kenny Schrader. Any Kenny Schrader fans out there? Derek, you probably don't even know who that is. It's an older NASCAR fan driver, but Good guy.
Derrick Brown
I've heard the name.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
I was actually gonna go to Cody Schrader.
Seth Wilcock
Oh, Cody Schrader. Yeah. Missouri. Yeah.
Derrick Brown
Let's go a little bit more recent. You're making me feel like the young man in the building and you're the old here.
Seth Wilcock
So whatever happened to Cody Schrader? Is he. Did he go to the ufl? Is he ufl?
Derrick Brown
No, no, no, no. He is on. It's not the Rams. Good Lord. Where's he at now?
Seth Wilcock
Okay, well, let me know because I.
Derrick Brown
I saw him in preseason action the other day. Where is Cody Schrader? Where in the world Is Cody Schrader right now?
Seth Wilcock
He's gone.
Derrick Brown
Is it the Rams? It's Rams. He's still with the Rams. Okay.
Seth Wilcock
Oh, wow, that's a crowd. That's pretty crowd backfield. They got him. They probably Zach Evans still, I imagine is on that roster somewhere floating around too.
Derrick Brown
So I think Zach Evans is heading for the cfl.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. All right, well, yeah. Shout out Zach. Yeah, Debbie managers will appreciate that, that deep cut there. Sure, sure, Nick. Saying thanks, guys. You're making me tolerate building some flat pack furniture. Dude, there's nothing more I honestly think I hate than like building furniture. It is the absolute worst. I, I think in the future when I get a new couch or something, like, I'm just gonna pay for them to do it. I don't think I have the time for it anymore.
Derrick Brown
Oh, really? Come on, don't do that.
Seth Wilcock
You don't ever in your adult life. Now that you are a full fledged adult, you have kids, you have a full time job, you're making content. You're telling me you always put your furniture together?
Derrick Brown
Yes, I do. Yeah, I do.
Seth Wilcock
I usually do. But I.
Derrick Brown
Hold on. I'm not gonna tell you it's a fun experience. Anybody that is ever. Look, I, I, and I'll go dad vibe here. Any dad out there that has ever put together a freaking crib, you know. You know that's like kind of like six pack or bottle of wine material.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
But yeah, yeah, still, you know, it's, it's, it's a worthwhile time, you know, so. No, I'm now the one. I, I, I will, I will talk out of both sides of my mouth here. The one thing I will never put together and it kind of feels counterintuitive because I'm like, out of all the things that like, if it's put together wrong as far as bodily harm and bad things going sideways, the one lazy thing I have never put together and will never put together. It kind of scares me mentioning this now is a grill, which I'm like, propane explosion. Is that probably like I should be putting that together, but dude, that's the one thing I will say.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
I have never put together a grill. I have always bought like I'm the guy that walks up to Lowe's, you.
Seth Wilcock
Buy the 4 model.
Derrick Brown
So, so that one you got sitting outside.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
What's the story with that thing? We selling it? What's, what's up? I mean, $50 off. It's been sitting on the rain a little bit. What you think?
Seth Wilcock
I, I completely agree I. I try not to buy the one sitting outside, though, because up here in PA they're gonna get rusty as heck. But I always do go for the floor model as well. That's usually my play.
Derrick Brown
Cali, not everybody has built the entire home they live in. Okay, you're kind of one of one there, homie. Although I know that's kind of the fad on Instagram right now.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, let us Cali in the back and let us know. He built his whole home. Also built custom gas stove in his.
Derrick Brown
In his shout out to Cali.
Seth Wilcock
He's.
Derrick Brown
He's definitely got the home on wheels, man. StarLink. The full nine. Like, yeah, definitely know that the band can build some things. Not my jam, but shout out to Cal.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, I just had to replace my hot water tank for the first time last week, so that was a little bit of learning experience. But we're growing, we're learning. Just like in fantasy analysis, you get better with time.
Derrick Brown
Adulting is hard, and sometimes adulting sucks.
Seth Wilcock
Dude, it is absolutely dilly. Two time saying Fantasy Fest was great, and I was able to stumble into Twitch because of it. Oh, let's go. Thanks for all the content.
Derrick Brown
Speaking of which, dude, everybody, I. We got done with Fantasy Fest and I was. I was doing dishes in the kitchen yesterday, and my phone rings and I like, I looked down, I was like, why is Welsh calling me? I was like, isn't he, like, on live, like, Twitch right now doing the afterparty for Fantasy Fest? Dude, it was total phone a friend. Him and Welsh. I mean, him and Bogman were still drafting, and he's like, hey, so I'm grading my team. So anybody that you can go still watch the playback of the afterparty. It was definitely a fun time. Welsh is like, dude, I'm so glad you even answered. I was like, I'm not a. I'm not a savage or horrible person. You call me. I'm answering Welsh, of course. But it was a good time.
Seth Wilcock
Wonderful.
Derrick Brown
Like, just a hilarious moment. So everybody needs to go check the playback of that too.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, I'm excited to see that for sure. Bandit, in the chat asking us, how far are you dropping Devon Hn in your rankings with him possibly missing up to three weeks to start the season? So I usually, when it comes to medical observation in fantasy football, I usually do lean on on one of our experts that contributes to fantasy pros, Dr. Deepak Jonah. He's saying that he does think a Chan will be ready for week one, but there is potential for a setback. So with that being said, I did drop Achan finally. I think you were probably already there. I dropped him below Christian McCaffrey. Having 15 overall. Are you a little bit higher yet on Achan?
Derrick Brown
No, I think I'm actually might be a little bit lower than you are.
Seth Wilcock
Oh, interesting.
Derrick Brown
I've got him, and some of this could be a little bit of an overcorrection, but, like, with the. The calf injury, like, I dropped in behind. He's my RB9 now.
Seth Wilcock
Oh.
Derrick Brown
Where I had him at, like, RB6.
Seth Wilcock
Okay.
Derrick Brown
But I dropped him behind Bucky Irving, Derek Henry, and Josh Jacobs. I am worried a little bit about the calf injury, but, dude, this also, like. And I. And I feel like for people to get context there, this also, for me, it's. It's the snowball rolling downhill. It's not like this injury news to me, just adds on to my overall totality of worry for the Miami Dolphins. Like, I'm just worried about that team in general. I'm worried Mike McDaniel is gone by week 7. I'm worried Tyreek goes full AB. I'm worried this team is just an absolute total and horrible mess by the middle of the season, and I'm worried this offensive line could be legitimately terrible. So it's like this news was also, like, just kind of like, leaning on a house of cards for me to.
Seth Wilcock
Where it's like, I understand this in.
Derrick Brown
It. This in itself isn't that big of a deal, but it's like when you add this on top of this, this, this, this, this, and this, it's like.
Seth Wilcock
It'S.
Derrick Brown
It's. It's the sum of all the parts for me. Seth.
Seth Wilcock
No, I totally understand. Drafting Miami Dol. Feels like when you walk into a college bar bathroom and someone's like, hey, man, come over the stall and, you know, see what I'm getting into in here. It's like, okay, that could either be a good time, or that could be a not so good time.
Derrick Brown
So this took a really weird and. And unexpected turn, but I'm here for.
Seth Wilcock
You're telling me you've never walked into a college bar bathroom and people are just offering you things in there? Never.
Derrick Brown
I'll plead the fifth.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. I never have accepted those things. I will say that.
Derrick Brown
I'll leave it at that.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. I'll just say, but that's how I feel. Like that.
Derrick Brown
And also, I'll plead.
Seth Wilcock
And I think Mike McDaniel is the type of guy who might have some of that stuff on him, too, so. So this could either blow up. Or it could be a great coach that says we're we.
Derrick Brown
It's a good day because we're one day closer to death. Like, okay, yeah, Kyle Shanahan vibes, like, might not even wake up tomorrow.
Seth Wilcock
Who knows? Yeah, yeah, right. Nick in the chat saying, which player are you most interested in seeing in week one? What about you, Derek? For me, I can't stop drafting Trayvon Henderson. Dude, I think we could be into a Jameer Gibbs rookie season. I've been moving up my ranks. I loved what we saw in the preseason from so far as well. Like, I have him RB17 right now. I'm not afraid to rank him above Jonathan Taylor and move him up one spot either. So like, that's where I am right now on Hendo.
Derrick Brown
He's probably like, you have Hendo above jt.
Seth Wilcock
No, I said right behind him. But I'm not afraid to move him above it.
Derrick Brown
Okay, I'm. I'm in.
Seth Wilcock
I'm in, man.
Derrick Brown
I am in. I mean, geez, man. I should be asking if you're a pay if you've converted from a Steelers to a Patriots fan now, like I.
Seth Wilcock
Feel like I am at this point. I. I've have so much Drake May exposure, it's absolutely unreal. So yeah, what, what about you though, Derek? Who's the one player you're like, week one, I cannot wait to watch?
Colin Coward
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Derrick Brown
Come on, take a guess. I'm gonna give you three guesses. What's the number one player you think I'm gonna say? Oh, what's the guy that I've been talking about all freaking off season? He's going to catch a crap ton of passes in his offense.
Seth Wilcock
Drake London.
Derrick Brown
I can't rank him. Oh, well, go to running back position.
Seth Wilcock
Oh, running back to mile high. Okay. R.J. harvey. I should. Yeah, that was obvious. That was obvious.
Derrick Brown
It's gonna be Harvey. I want to see Harvey just go out there and cough and nail all the people that hated on him and ranked him too low this season. Hey, so it's Harvey, like.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, give me that.
Derrick Brown
Harvey like 13 to 15 carries like five catches out of the backfield a tutty and he's like an RB one in week one. We're off to the races. Here for it. Here for it.
Seth Wilcock
I'm here for that. I'm also here for Van rod who's cheering 100 bits to us saying he loves DIY projects. Look, Van Rod, I. Oh, I like.
Derrick Brown
Oh, your favorite one in the, in the, in the chat here. Van Rod. I'm a somewhat of a DIY myself person.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, let let us know. My favorite thing about D. DIY is my fiance is really good at them. And my office is in the basement here. And when I walk upstairs, like the other day, she had like the whole back hall decorated for the first time. Like oh man, that's awesome. So sometimes I like that. I like just showing up and they're already done. But I, I, I, I do like assisting him too. So.
Derrick Brown
Van Rod, I love doing furniture so back. Not that everybody needs this whole spiel, but like way back in the day I used to restore furniture like for side cash and stuff. So like I know how to use a lathe, all that kind of stuff. Like, if I had the tools, I could build you like a really nice table actually from scratch.
Seth Wilcock
Oh, really?
Derrick Brown
I like, I like repairing a lot. Yeah, dude. Okay. I like somewhere around here. I don't have it on the handy, but I'll have to pull it up on one of these shows. I actually have a custom baseball bat that I made myself. Like wooden baseball bat, like. Yeah, it's nice.
Seth Wilcock
Oh, we really, really appreciate, appreciate that. Van Rod, thank you so much for hanging out.
Derrick Brown
I'm not bringing up, I'm not even gonna state like woodworking like, and all the jokes that proceed with that. Not even gonna go there, but kind of went there on accident.
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Derrick Brown
Derek, I love how you went throughout the everything that was included and you're like. And a marker. Yes.
Seth Wilcock
You get your own Sharpie, dude, the markers. But if you don't have the marker.
Derrick Brown
I know, I know. I just thought it was funny out of all the things you were like and a marker like that. Sharpie's selling it, baby. Let's go.
Seth Wilcock
It is. That's.
Derrick Brown
But shout out to Van Rod. A desk, setups and centerpieces.
Seth Wilcock
Oh, love it. There you go.
Derrick Brown
She's rocking it, man.
Seth Wilcock
Love it. Van Rod, absolute unit out there. We appreciate you so much. Let's keep it moving here. Some more questions from Van Rod. Actually, she drafted Kyler Murray, but thinking about dropping him for Drake. May yay or nay do it. I, I, I do have Drake above. Would you maybe see if she can get something for Kyler though? If it's a, if it's a 12 team league or if it's a 1 QB.
Derrick Brown
Nobody's giving you anything for Kyler, bro. I mean, I. Unless. Okay, well, I'll say this. So if, if, if she's already drafted and this is one of those teams where, or leagues where say you're rostering a kicker and a defense right now, drop one of those and if you could pull off like and then go ahead and pick up Drake May. So drop a defense or a kicker for Drake maybe. And then yeah, sure, like if you can pull off a trade where you can say, I don't know, give Kyler Murray and like look over the teams in the league, who has the worst quarterback walking out of the draft, like, basically like ecr, who is the lowest. Okay, I'm going to go after that team because that team maybe thinks that they don't have enough at quarterback.
Seth Wilcock
Right.
Derrick Brown
And they only drafted say like one quarterback at the end of it. You know, if that's the case, then yeah, sure, like maybe you go offer Kyler and running back or wide receiver and you upgraded that position. Sure, I have no problems with doing that. But if you can't do that, yes, I would be totally fine with dropping Kyler for Drake May. And yes, I do not want any small plug here. I'm doing a YouTube short for us today and Kyler Murray is in my latest article of my top five quarterbacks to avoid.
Seth Wilcock
So I'm with you there. One of my biggest feats last season in my really, really competitive home league, these guys are super sharp. But right before the breakout, I was able to trade Kyler Murray straight up for lad McConkey and I had no receivers at all. So that felt great. That was, that was a good one. Yeah. So I will not, I don't think I'll ever draft Kyler Murray again. I just also don't like his personality, so it's not fun to root for him either.
Derrick Brown
The problem with Kyler is it comes down to like, when would you feel comfortable? And this is again, teasing this video, like the thing that I'm highlighting the most of this. And for everybody out there, like, I understand he finished as the QB12 and fantasy points per game like that. On the surface it's like, well, we're all too low on Kyler. If you had Kyler in a managed league last year, you knew the pain. Because if you look at what he did on a more granular weekly basis, this dude had five top five finishes where he averaged 26 fantasy points per game. Which all sounds amazing. Like, oh, that's awesome. Winning you a week. The problem is other side in the same season, the other side of the coin he had nine games where he was the QB 15 or lower. So it's like those five games, if you started him were great.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
The other nine times, which again, that's 14 games out of the season. He finished as a low end to mid QB2. And you were saying you were just reconsidering everything about your life. You're like, why did I do this to myself? Why did I draft Kyler Murray and why did I believe in him this week? So no, you could miss me with Kyler Murray.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
Don't want nothing to do with him in fantasy.
Seth Wilcock
No, I completely agree. And in that trade I, I traded him away because Drake May was the other option that was floating out there and Drake May has a just a more solid floor. I was tired of the highs and lows of Kyler Murray. I I just can't do it. So Vanessa, thank you so much for the comment. Thank you so much for the bits as well. We appreciate you. Matunda Does Daniel Jones starting now raise the Colts position players dbro this is very interesting conversation. So we did get news yesterday that it is official Daniel Jones was named the Indianapolis Colts starting quarterback. Question marks about Anthony Richardson's future with the team are certainly out there. Chris Ballard, the general manager, I think his future also with the team very much up in the air. But with this said, are you rising on whether It's Michael Pittman Jr. Joshua Downs or my main man out here, hashtag we are Tyler Warren.
Derrick Brown
No, I'm not because have we not all seen Daniel Jones pull his best Blake Bortles on a weekly basis every single freaking game. And if he does that he we're going to see Anthony Richardson at some point this season. It's just going to happen. And I just this Colts offense, man, I just don't want really a whole lot to do with it this year. It's a lot of different parts of pieces. It's a lot of like spreading out target shares. Like you could give me maybe the dip on Josh Downs, but outside of that it's like I just, I don't see the upside case where a lot of these guys just absolutely smash their ADPs. And I don't think Daniel Jones is a good quarterback. If he sucks or he starts off bad, we're going to see Anthony Richardson and then it's like are you really happy you drafted anybody in that offense? If we see Anthony Richardson or the other part about this dude is like this team again going to like if Daniel Jones is bad and they bring in Avery like, did we see Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard even make it through this season? Like, if this. If this team. If Daniel Jones doesn't start off decent and this team, say this team starts off 04.05, and I'm going to pull up their schedule here in a second. But if they start off bad, does the head coach get fired? Does the team, like, go into the dumpster, like, Miami situation? Okay, let's.
Seth Wilcock
Let's.
Derrick Brown
Let's talk this out, and I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to give you layups here, and you tell me how the Colts start their season. Seth. All right. Week one, Miami, win or loss?
Seth Wilcock
Probably loss at Miami. Yeah.
Derrick Brown
Denver, week two loss. 02 loss.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
Tennessee. Week three.
Seth Wilcock
On the road or at home?
Derrick Brown
They are. They are at 10 or at Tennessee? They're on the road.
Seth Wilcock
I'm gonna say loss. Honestly, I like Tennessee 0 and 3.
Derrick Brown
Rams, week four lost.
Seth Wilcock
Don't care where it is.
Derrick Brown
Oh, and four. So Raiders, week five. I'll. I'll go ahead and say that's a lot.
Seth Wilcock
Where's that. Is that in Las Vegas?
Derrick Brown
It's. It's actually, no. It's at home for Nindy.
Seth Wilcock
Oh, man. Can Indy.
Derrick Brown
Fine, let's get them.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. Yeah, we'll give him one. Come on.
Derrick Brown
So one. One and four. One and four. Arizona. Week six.
Seth Wilcock
In Indy.
Derrick Brown
Yeah. In errors.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
In Indy.
Seth Wilcock
Oh, man. Maybe I'll give Indy the win. Give me Indy. Okay.
Derrick Brown
It's a 2 and 4 Los Angeles Chargers weeks.
Seth Wilcock
I don't care where it is. Give me the Chargers.
Derrick Brown
2 and 5. 2 and 5.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
So if they start off 2 and 5, do you see Anthony Richardson? How do you see Shane Steichen and Chris Balor fired before we get to week eight?
Seth Wilcock
Why? I think 100. Because one. Let's not forget that this entire Ursay family just went through the tragedy of losing the former owner, Jim. Or say so. The. The children of the Ursay family don't have the attachment to Chris Ballard, Sheen Steichening Co. That everyone else does. That is why I'm so low on Jonathan Taylor in this entire Colts offense. Like, really the only person I'm taking shots on because I just believe in the talent more than the situation is Tyler Warren. So I'm with you there. I'm with you. I think it's a great question from McTunda, but I don't want anything to do. Josh Downs gets hurt. I think he's just a really good slot wide receiver. Michael Pittman Jr. I think he has to be in the right offense to really succeed. So I'm good on the Colts players.
Derrick Brown
Yeah, Michael Pittman is a, a is a tear like from an archetype fit with Daniel Jones. He's a terrible fit with Daniel Jones. Like it. Daniel Jones is not throwing into any tight windows or contested situations.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
Just not happening. If he's doing it, it's probably a pick.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. Like if I am drafting one of those receivers, I guess it is Josh Downs more clearly now because we've seen what Josh down or Wandale Robinson did with in the past with someone like Daniel Jones. So yeah. Great question though. McTunda. We appreciate you. Bam Bam Branson in the chat saying, boys, with the news of the Vikings shopping for a veteran wide receiver when Adam Thielen gets dealt to them, Dewey hashtag cokeheads finally rejoice that he will ascend to the levels foretold by Devro. Also always pay for grill assembly. Put one together to myself once, Johnny once. Yep.
Derrick Brown
Bam Bam knows, baby. Bam Bam knows. Like it's. You're putting a lot of faith in whoever's assembling that, but still not the thing that I assemble. Although maybe it doesn't make a lot of common sense, but yes, dude, like I, I tweeted this out. It makes so much sense, man. Like the Minnesota Vikings have a need. He's not going to cost them much. Carolina, like people are going to say, oh, like as I had Carolina fans in my mentions when I tweeted this out today, Carolina fans are like, why would they do that and hurt Bryce Young, bro. Like, what's Adam Thielen getting you this year? Like, you know you're not going to the playoffs. You're not winning 10, 12 games. Like, the veteran is blocking. You know he's not going to be on this roster for next year. They are still in evaluation mode. And I know that's Bryce Young, but it's also, you need to see if Xavier Leggette and Jalen Cobra can be answers for you this season and long term. You know that Adam Thielen is not there. If you can get a sixth round freaking pick for Adam Thielen, you ship him off to Minnesota, Let the man go back, finish his career where it started, let him go to the playoffs. Maybe he gets a deep playoff run. If JJ is the Messiah and the guy that I think he's gonna be and it's just a wonderful, happy ending to a wonderful career for Adam Thielen. So in all parts or pieces, it makes Total sense that Adam Thielen would go back to Minnesota. I think that should happen. We'll see if it does, but yes. And Jayla Coker we trust, baby.
Seth Wilcock
What about Amari Cooper? Could he get signed here, you think? Do you think?
Derrick Brown
I think he's I, I think he's Dude, I, I think the reason he hasn't been signed at this point is back nine of his career. I, maybe if we had more injuries that like in season wise he latches on somewhere. But I feel like this is kind of like the, the high end version of kind of like we just saw with DJ Chark, like where he comes in as a cameo and then the team is like, whoop.
Seth Wilcock
No, I, I, I, I fat thumbed Mari Cooper and Scott Fishbowl this year. So I'm just hoping that maybe I wasn't going rip. Rip Yeah, I was trying to go for Calvin Austin and Amari Cooper was right above him. I also have to make a confession on. I feel it's a safe space with you, Derek, and with the fancy bros family. So we're talking about grills, right? So the other night, I think it's like Sunday night I'm grilling, right? And you know, shut down the grill, go in, eat dinner. The next night I come out to fire up the grill and the grill is still on.
Derrick Brown
And since this is a confessional, I'm gonna go ahead and light a candle.
Seth Wilcock
Yes, thank you, thank you. So I come out Monday, 24 hours later, grill is on. I say, I say to my fiance, did you start the grill for me? That's really nice of you. She said, no. And I said, oh, I must have just done it earlier to earlier, like, like 10 minutes ago and forgot I did it. No, I had that thing on for 24 hours. I kicked a whole can of propane, man. It was gone, bro.
Derrick Brown
Okay, so on this tangent, and this is the safe space, so I will go ahead and admit this. Right after I bought my first grill, I was trying to figure out how to light it and do all those kind of things. I, so I turned the gas on and I was like, so is this a lighter? Is an electric start?
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
And like my ADD kicked in and I was kind of like, okay, I don't know what to, what do I do next? Do I go get a lighter? Like, I don't, right? And then like so like 5 to 10, I pull out the instruction manual and I was like, well, I don't know. Well, I don't know. I don't know. And so five or 10 minutes later, it's gone by. The gas has been seeping out. And this is one of the ones with the wood. And so, like, it was trapped under there. I find the electric start, and I was like, oh, well, there. That's the answer. Didn't realize it had been going for, like, 10 to 15 minutes under there. I pressed the electric start, and it goes boom. Like, the hood goes. It, like, falls back down. Flames shoot out from the side, and you can hear everything. My wife is in the kitchen. She comes out, and she's like, what did you do? Like. Like, trying to, like, proof of life. Am I still alive? And I was like, it's fine. I'm still alive. The grill is lit. I'm not dead, but I am an idiot. I am an idiot. It's okay.
Seth Wilcock
Oh, man. We could have lost D, bro. Before it even got started, before the. The. The takes even came.
Derrick Brown
Lost me. Yeah, I know, man. It's. I mean, just keeping it real here. I was like. And it's one of those moments where you look back in life, and you were like, oh, good Lord. I was so dumb.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. Yes. Oh, dumb. Yes.
Derrick Brown
So dumb. I was. It's like I was too old to be that dumb.
Seth Wilcock
Like, oh, my gosh. I. I love it, man. It is safe space. You guys can let us know down in the chat below any of your confessionals you want to make.
Derrick Brown
That's where the hair went. I love it. I love it. Dude, I'm getting flamed in the chat.
Seth Wilcock
All right, we're. We're gonna do rapid fire. Just give me one. One word for a couple of these as we round out the show here. Derek, would you trade a chance for Chase Brown straight up? I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that. You would do that?
Derrick Brown
I'm done. I would do it.
Seth Wilcock
Okay.
Derrick Brown
Yeah. Where I'm at with that team.
Seth Wilcock
Okay, what are your thoughts on Dalvin Cook? I think Collins means James Cook. Do you think the Holden will hurt him? No, not now. I think he has enough time to get up. I think he's. You know, he.
Derrick Brown
And also, I bumped him up in ranks.
Seth Wilcock
I did as well. And, like, the Holden, too, man, he. He was practicing here and there. It was like he would practice a couple days out. A couple days. So, Tara McLaurin. That's a different question. I'm worried there, but that's a. A different program here. How many games will Flacco play? I am staying clear of him. Is Nick saying, what do you think, Derek? How long do you think Flacco gets a leash because it could be Gunsling and Flacco for a couple weeks at least, right? Yeah. When's their buy? When's their bye week?
Derrick Brown
I think that's probably the bye week is week nine. He's not making it to the bottom. You don't think new. So their schedule is Cincinnati, Baltimore, Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota, Pittsburgh. They're starting off 05. So I think you're going to see somebody making starts and then. But then we have Pittsburgh in week six. I think you're going to see a different quarterback starting by week seven places because they get Miami in week seven. So that's more of a layup start. Like you have time to kind of like. So their bye week is week nine. They have Miami and New England. Those are not like incredibly terrible matchups. And then you go into the bye week to kind of really kind of firm up who's gonna be the quarterback. So I, I think Flacco is out of the starting job by week seven. Oh, by week seven.
Seth Wilcock
Okay.
Derrick Brown
I think somebody else is starting.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. We got Thoughtimus asking taking a Buka in the fifth, sixth round. Crazy. I right now have him as a back end six round pick in. In my overall player ranking. So I don't think it's crazy. And I think that's probably where you're gonna have to take him if you're in a league with some sharp managers. D, bro.
Derrick Brown
Yeah, I mean I'm, I'm right with you. I've got him at 68.
Seth Wilcock
Okay.
Derrick Brown
And I could push that up to. And I'm, I'm updating this live because I just updated the abuka rank before updating this live. Right now.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
I'm moving them all the way up to 65.
Seth Wilcock
Okay.
Derrick Brown
So I'm with you.
Seth Wilcock
Okay.
Derrick Brown
I'm with you. I think round five, round six is. Is the conversation.
Seth Wilcock
Let's go, baby. Does a Mecca become the second highest Bucks wide receiver in value with McMillan is 100%. He was already. Already there for. So yeah. Clear path. Yep. 100. Agreed with you there. Also wanted to shout out Vanessa again for gifting us one subscriber. We really appreciate that sub. Thank you so much.
Derrick Brown
And Rod coming in man, that's. Love it. Love it. Thank you so much.
Seth Wilcock
And Justin, first time chatter hanging out with us as well. Asking keeper question. I need help. Puka Nakua in the seventh, Lad McConkey in the ninth. Jane Daniels in the 11th. I kept Puka last year so could only keep him one more year. Only keep one Justin, my question to you is obviously, I imagine this is.
Derrick Brown
Size of the league.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. And one quarterback. I. I'm thinking too right here. If. If you got jaden in the 11th last year, you had to be one quarterback. So. Yeah, for me, I guess you mean. What do you. This is close. You're keep.
Derrick Brown
I'm keeping Daniels. I'm keeping. I'm keeping. Well, here's the thing. You can only keep Puka for one more year.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. And he's still a third round getting.
Derrick Brown
Rid of him after this year and the staffer news and Stu, that. That could blow up.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
Like if you got Jaden for this year and next year, you know you're gonna have a top five quarterback. Plus it's the best value out of the.
Seth Wilcock
You're right. You're right.
Derrick Brown
It's Jaden Daniels for me.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. Yeah. If this is a 10 or a 12 team, I'd be comfortable with Jaden Daniels as well. Even though like I like keeping the positional players.
Derrick Brown
Well, you know, you already got quarterback taken care of, so you just load up at everything else. Don't draft a quarterback. It's fine.
Seth Wilcock
100 there real quick before we get out of here. Wanted to shout out everyone who's tuning in. We love chatting with you all. Whether that's about grills and you know, confessionals on that side of things or fancy life stories. Yeah.
Derrick Brown
Things not to do.
Seth Wilcock
Yes.
Derrick Brown
AKA back alley deals and bathroom stalls.
Seth Wilcock
Don't do that. Yes. Yes. 100.
Derrick Brown
We went a lot of different ways today, Seth and I don't know if all of them are good.
Seth Wilcock
No, no, we'll see. We might. Might not have a job tomorrow, but. Hey, that. That's. That's Seth Wilcock and Derrick Brown football out here on Twitch Fantasy Pro.
Derrick Brown
We need the love.
Seth Wilcock
Please. We do. We. We might start our own channel after this one. Make sure you guys are following though. Or better yet, please subscribe to help support the channel and you're never going to miss a Q A. And you can also do so for free right now with your Amazon prime account. You get one free sub a month, but you have to continue to re up that. So we'd really, really appreciate it. Subscribers get access to our custom emotes and an ad free experience. Deep, bro. Maybe we need like a like a me and you on an emoji with like a grill and then like us.
Derrick Brown
Just like shaking our heads or some Guy Fieri kind of stuff. We definitely need to mess around with Cali. I leave this in your very competent hands.
Seth Wilcock
Yes, I. I completely agree. Consider it.
Derrick Brown
Oh, crap. No, Never mind. Cali. I'm sorry. I didn't think you were actually listening. I take it. I take it all back. Take it all back.
Seth Wilcock
Bam. Bam. Would. Would Seth's head explode if the Colts drafted Drew Allergies? Oh, yes. The answer is I'm not. I'm never leaving.
Derrick Brown
Actually, his head would explode at the Steelers draft.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
Oh.
Seth Wilcock
Oh, baby.
Derrick Brown
See, it just happened live in real time.
Seth Wilcock
Bury me a Keystone. Buried me in Keystone. So your eyes go bury me in Keystone. The only way I'm ever moving out to Indy is I don't think any reason I would go to Indy for the Indy 500. That's it, though. That's the only. And. And the combine. And the combine. And the combine. You're right. You're right, you're right. We gotta cash some tickets.
Derrick Brown
Shout out to the wonderful people in Indy. I know what, dude, we have people trying to direct us, give us directions and stuff. And it's. It's something to be said when you go to a city and people are so nice that you're kind of like in the year 2025. You're like, I haven't had anybody be this nice to me just randomly from a stranger in a very long time. Have I slipped into like some kind of like alternate universe? I don't know what to do. So shout out to the people of Indy. They were absolutely fantastic. They're very welcoming.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Derrick Brown
Going to there for the combine and we'll be back at the combine this year. So yeah.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. The midw baby. Got gotta cash those 40 yard dash tickets for sure. That is gonna do it for us today, folks on this fancy football Q and A live on Twitch tv. Fancy pros, thank you so much for hanging out with us. I will be back tomorrow for another Q and a. Coming at you five eastern time with Terrell Furman Jr. So surely a lot of giants discussion on that program awaits for you. If you want to support us, please hit that subscribe button. Every sub helps us bring more content through you throughout the rest of the year. Also, please go to the Fancy Pros YouTube channel. Check out the fancy fest from yesterday. Also have some clips coming out on the video on demand side throughout the rest of the week. For Derek Brown, I'm Seth Wilcock. Take care y'. All. Have a blessed rest of your day.
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Episode: Biggest Camp Risers, Week 1 Excitement, and Jacory Croskey-Merritt | Fantasy Football Q&A Livestream (Ep. 1661)
Date: August 21, 2025
Hosts: Seth Wilcock & Derrick Brown (“DBro”)
This episode is a lively, rapid-fire fantasy football Q&A, focusing on updated player rankings and value shifts following recent training camp news. Seth and Dbro answer chat questions about the biggest camp risers, particularly Jacory Croskey-Merritt (JCM), shifting wide receiver and running back tiers, injury updates, and preseason controversies (“biggest risers”). They dig into how to make smart draft decisions with fast-changing NFL news, especially for those drafting this week, while keeping the banter high-spirited and self-deprecating.
Conversational, witty, and irreverent, with Dbro dropping strong opinions confidently and Seth balancing analysis with self-deprecation. They highlight both actionable fantasy advice and relatable life anecdotes, engaging deeply with the chat and listener questions. The episode feels like sitting in on a dynamic, humorous (but sharp) draft room debate among seasoned fantasy vets.
This episode is a must-listen for drafters seeking up-to-the-minute analysis on rapidly changing player values—especially late-round RB/WR risers and injury reactions—with a bonus of league-winning draft wisdom and deep cuts on NFL and NCAA narratives. The hosts sharpen every take with good-natured roasting, fan interaction, and candor about both fantasy football and everyday “adulting” struggles.