Dynasty Risers and Fallers After the NFL Draft (Ep. 2019)

Summary

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FantasyPros Dynasty Football Podcast

Episode: Dynasty Risers and Fallers After the NFL Draft (Ep. 2019)
Date: May 12, 2026
Participants: Ryan Wormley (host), Scott Bogman, Pat Fitzmaurice

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the FantasyPros trio dives deep into the biggest dynasty risers and fallers following the 2026 NFL Draft. While rookie talk lingers, the focus shifts away from rookie drafts and into broader offseason dynasty strategy. The hosts break down which veteran and sophomore players saw their value surge or sink based on their teams’ draft moves, offer actionable trade insights, and discuss rankings updates. The energetic and honest conversation delivers a blend of sharp football analysis and actionable advice for dynasty managers navigating the post-draft landscape.

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Dynasty Risers

1. Jonathan Brooks (RB, Panthers)

• Why he's rising: Panthers didn’t draft a significant RB, bolstered O-line with Monroe Freeling at 19th overall.
• Fitz: “I thought I was going to be permanently out on Jonathan Brooks after two torn ACLs, but I'm starting to feel a little more bullish.” [04:25]
• Current status & advice: Brooks is RB45 in consensus; Fitz has him at RB34. The injury risk remains, but opportunity is clear.
• Debate: Bogman is hesitant: “I want to see what he looks like. I do think that Fitz is correct... all the signals right now are telling us... they believe in this guy... But ... I just want to see what he has at all." [07:25]
• Trade value: Both Fitz and Wormley agree – a 4th round rookie pick is a buy, a 3rd is a tough call. [10:38]

2. Bhayshul Tootin (RB, Jaguars)

• Why he's rising: Jaguars didn’t add serious competition at RB; Etienne gone, workload open.
• Bogman: “He could be a good buy opportunity. I think Tutin's going to be one of the most traded players in this offseason... I think either way, you’re looking at Tutin, whether you're rostering him or want to get him on your roster, is kind of correct right now." [12:40]
• Concerns: Utilization could be split; think Rodriguez on early downs, Allen on passing downs.
• Consensus: Tootin is RB24 in dynasty—Fitz is slightly higher at RB23. Both would take Jadarian Price over Tootin. [15:26]

3. Rome Odunze (WR, Bears)

• Why he's rising: Bears didn’t add real WR competition; Avian Thomas unlikely to impact. Depth chart (Odunze, Luther Burden, Khalif Raymond, Thomas) is thin.
• Fitz: "Man, Rome Odunze is going to get a lot of snaps and a lot of targets. Got off to a fast start last season, then a stress fracture... robbed him of his effectiveness." [15:41]
• Wormley: “I think he's going to be a lot more expensive a year from now." [18:02]
• Consensus ranking: WR26 in dynasty. Both hosts would take Odunze over rookies like Makai Lemon.
• Trade value: A first is likely required to acquire him; managers unlikely to sell for less. [20:31]

4. Cam Ward (QB, Titans)

• Why he's rising: New OC (Brian Daboll), upgraded WR room (Ridley is back, Carnell Tate added), and improved O-line.
• Bogman: “I just think this offense is going to be so improved ... I think we're going to see a really huge jump from Cam from season one to season two.” [23:04]
• Projected role: High-end QB2 in Superflex leagues, with upward mobility. Wormley: “I think Ward can absolutely solidify himself atop that group...” [25:03]

5. Christian Watson (WR, Packers)

• Why he's rising: No significant WRs drafted; thin depth chart (Watson, Jaden Reed, Matthew Golden).
• Fitz: “Watson averaged 17.5 yards per catch... the physical tools, the setup for him, it all points toward big things, if he can just dodge the injury bug..." [28:33]
• Debate: Bogman cites major injury concerns—he’s out; Fitz is happy to buy the discount. [31:33]
• Value: May be acquired for a second-rounder; unlikely to fetch a first. [34:12]

6. Jack Bech (WR, Raiders)

• Why he's rising: Raiders did not add notable WRs, opportunity is open.
• Bogman: “Besh is being 100% completely overlooked right now and is a guy that you can just add and see.” [36:56]
• Status: WR94 in consensus. Fitz is out, citing uninspiring rookie season and being surpassed on the depth chart.

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Dynasty Fallers

1. Malik Willis (QB, Dolphins)

• Why he's falling: Miami drafted multiple WRs but none are ready-made contributors. O-line help (Kaden Proctor) likely not ready. Poor pass-catching group, team in a clear rebuild.
• Fitz: “Just feels like Malik Willis is getting set up to fail guys... he's going to be hard-pressed to deliver passing value with such a poor set of weapons." [40:37]
• Long-term outlook: Likely a one-year bridge; team may draft a QB highly in 2027.
• Bogman: Best buy window may be midseason if things look especially bleak. [45:27]

2. Courtland Sutton (WR, Broncos)

• Why he's falling: Addition of Jalen Waddle, improvement of Franklin and Bryant, new pass-catching tight ends.
• Bogman: "All of these little death by a thousand cuts... I just think there’s way more places for the ball to go... Sutton’s stock is dropping." [46:40]
• Fitz: "It's really hard to see Sutton getting... 120 targets even seems like it might be a stretch this year." [49:25]
• Ranking: Dropped from a fringe WR2/3 to WR3/4.

3. Zach Charbonnet (RB, Seahawks)

• Why he's falling: Seattle drafted Jadarian Price in the 1st; Charbonnet recovering from February ACL surgery, contract expires after 2026.
• Fitz: “It's a good bet he’s not back until October at the earliest... possible Charbonnet is going to be a backup when he comes back.” [49:28]
• Consensus: Ranked RB28, more name value than actionable value at this point.

4. Jecory Croskey-Merritt (RB, Commanders)

• Why he's falling: Commanders signed Rashad White, drafted Katron Allen. Merritt unlikely to secure clear volume, not a pass-catcher.
• Bogman: “Any way you break this backfield up, Jecory Kraski Merritt is losing touches this year.” [55:09]
• Consensus: RB39, which Bogman sees as far too high.

5. Parker Washington (WR, Jaguars)

• Why he's falling: Jags drafted two TEs, plan to use more 12/13 personnel (fewer WRs on the field); Travis Hunter to play in the slot; Myers, Thomas Jr. ahead.
• Fitz: “I'm worried about Parker Washington's usage ... Just sort of worried about all of Jacksonville's receivers." [58:47]
• Bogman: "Washington is obviously the odd man out. So, yeah, I'm down on him." [61:57]

6. Dallas Goedert (TE, Eagles)

• Why he's falling: Eagles drafted successor Eli Stowers; Goddard is 31 on a void contract, possibly nearing end as a fantasy asset.
• Bogman: “He's at least a name to think about trading... the old falling knife as we would say here. As an aging tight end who still has good numbers..." [65:31]
• Value / trade talk: Ideal trade for youth if not contending—swap for a younger TE, maybe get a pick back. [67:48]
• Fitz: Would rather hold and start when needed than sell too low.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Christian Watson’s Risk-Reward:

  • Fitz: “If that brings him to me at a substantial discount, I’ll take it because this guy’s talent is pretty unbelievable.” [32:56]
  • Bogman: “I am so tired of rostering guys that are questionable every single week.” [31:33]

• On Rome Odunze’s Emerging Value:

  • Wormley: “He is going to be a lot more expensive a year from now." [18:02]
  • Bogman: “Would you rather have him than Carnell Tate? ... I do like I still have Odunze up there..." [19:41]

• On Zach Charbonnet's Outlook:

  • Fitz: "If Jadarian Price is a smash hit, it's possible Charbonnet is going to be a backup when he comes back." [50:45]
  • Bogman: "His target date is Halloween, so that's going to push him back to November at best..." [51:38]

• On Jack Besh as a Sneaky Add:

  • Bogman: “He could be free. You could pick him up on the wire in some spots right now as well... Being 100% completely overlooked.” [36:56]

• On Malik Willis’ Plight:

  • Fitz: “Just feels like Malik Willis is getting set up to fail guys... it doesn’t seem like Willis is going to get a fair opportunity to prove he’s Miami’s long-term quarterback.” [40:37]

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Key Timestamps (MM:SS)

• 04:25 — Jonathan Brooks as RB riser
• 11:02 — Bhayshul Tootin’s fantasy volatility
• 15:41 — Rome Odunze’s growth opportunity
• 23:04 — Cam Ward’s leap incoming
• 28:33 — Christian Watson: discount vs. disaster?
• 34:55 — Jack Besh as a sneaky deep-league add
• 40:37 — Malik Willis set up to fail in Miami?
• 46:40 — Courtland Sutton falling due to competition
• 49:28 — Zach Charbonnet’s role evaporating
• 55:09 — Croskey Merritt not a real dynasty asset
• 58:47 — Parker Washington and Jacksonville WRs
• 65:31 — Dallas Goedert: Act before the music stops

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Trade & Strategic Advice

• Target rising young players (Brooks, Odunze, Ward) with clear opportunity and undervalued ADP—be willing to “overpay today for underpayment tomorrow.”
• Be cautious on players with opportunity but unproven track record or injury—consider trading (Tootin, Watson).
• Move on from aging or boxed-out players before the value completely vanishes (Goddard, Sutton, Charbonnet).
• When faced with ‘too many mouths,’ look for buying opportunities if production will eventually consolidate or wait for better clarity in preseason/right after a slow start.
• In ambiguous depth charts, invest in talent (Odunze, Brooks); in messy committees, consider only as best-ball depth or fade (Merritt, Washington).

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Summary

The post-draft dynasty landscape is dotted with opportunity and danger. Savvy managers will aggressively target players stepping into new, clearer roles (Brooks, Odunze, Cam Ward). They’ll also be first to move on from veteran names whose outlook is clouded by depth chart changes or age (Goddard, Sutton, Charbonnet).

Rankings, trade tiers, and the hosts’ strong stances provide actionable cues for where to buy and sell in dynasty leagues right now—and what pitfalls, injuries, or depth chart ambiguities to avoid. The strong, informed debates and clear trade examples offer listeners a sharp edge in their dynasty maneuvering this summer.

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Transcript

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[Ryan Wormley]

Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast. I'm Ryan, warmly joined by Scott Bogman and Pat Fitzmaurice. We are talking Dynasty risers and fallers, sort of not totally closing the page on talking about rookies. Obviously they will come up throughout the course of the rest of the summer, but we are officially kind of moving past our heavy rookie draft coverage and more into just our general offseason dynasty discussions. We're going to kick that off with some Dynasty risers and followers. Some of these are guys who obviously are impacted by draft decisions that were made by teams. And you know, if they're a riser, maybe the team didn't address the position, maybe vice versa if they're a follower. So obviously again, the rookies will still come up. But we're kind of turning the page into the next stage of our offseason coverage here. Reminder for everybody as we get into this time of year that all of our 2026 consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasyprose.com rankings and you can navigate to all of our dynasty rankings as well. And of course if you still have rookie drafts going on, we have rookie rankings on there too. I'll tell you what Fitz, you know who is rising more than anybody is my stock as a Wizards fan. I just have to point out for those watching on video, I am rocking the John Wall jersey who brought home the number one overall pick in an awesome loaded draft this year. I have complained to Fitz probably, I don't know, two dozen times about the Wizards drafting his beloved Johnny Davis a couple of years ago. They final have a chance to rectify. That fits.

[Fitz Bogman]

That's awesome. Congratulations. You know, we talk about some of the the most downtrodden NFL fan bases. You know, the Browns, obviously the Vikings who've had so many postseason kicks in the teeth, the Lions, but man, the the Washington basketball team. Whether it was the Wizards, I guess, I guess the Bullets one way back

[Ryan Wormley]

in like the late 70s, 1979 they won the championship. It is also the last time they made a conference finals or games in a season which isn't that much in the NBA. They have not done it since 1979.

[Fitz Bogman]

Yeah. And now, of course, the number one pick is not a sure success by any means, but at least it's going to be a nice building block for the frame.

[Ryan Wormley]

And this is a good class, right. Sometimes you get the number one pick and it's like, oh, this is like the Anthony Bennett year or the recess year. This is like a really strong class. They could get it wrong, of course, but very excited. I was actually surprised Bogman how excited I was. I was expecting to just be like generally happy and like I watched the lottery and I found myself really nervous as they were drawing the envelopes. And then when it got down to them and I was like kind of, I was yelling in my office alone, like scared my dog. I was surprised how excited I was.

[Scott Bogman]

I'm behind on the basketball prospects, but I know there's like. Isn't there a handful of them, like where it's. Which pick did you really want to get in?

[Ryan Wormley]

I wanted to get into the top four. AJ debona, Darren Peterson, Cam Boozer and Caleb Wilson.

[Scott Bogman]

I think the Rockets got number six because they have a pick swap with the Nets.

[Ryan Wormley]

There are still really good players throughout the lottery. It's a very deep class. I do think tier one is the top four, but tier two is stronger than most years. Like that five to ten range is really loaded this year.

[Scott Bogman]

Might be next year. But yeah, I'm obviously I not been as up on basketball as you guys are, but I. I did see that the Wizards got the first pick and I. I did think of you.

[Ryan Wormley]

So I was like, I'm excited.

[Scott Bogman]

Worm is probably pretty happy.

[Ryan Wormley]

I'm excited to get more into it. Right. It's been so hard to follow that. You know, my favorite team over the years that I finally have an excuse to care again, which I'm really excited about. But thank you for indulging me on that detour. I had to rep my John Wall jersey, which I haven't worn in years, to thank him for bringing home the number one pick. The Wizards are probably going to be a dynasty soon. Speaking of dynasty, let's go to our Risers and fallers. Risers is where we'll start. Be positive here. Fitz, who is your number one dynasty riser right now?

[Fitz Bogman]

My number one dynasty riser is Jonathan Brooks. Not only did the Panthers not draft another running back, but they bolstered their offensive line by taking University of Georgia tackle Monroe Freeling, 19th overall. Look, we, we knew the Panthers weren't going to be drafting Jeremiah Love, and there weren't a whole lot of running backs in this year's draft class who are good enough to walk in and take over a backfield. But even drafting someone like Demon CLAIBORNE Or Seth McGowan, Adam Randall, guys who were taken in the latter rounds of the draft, would have made the outlook slightly murkier for Jonathan Brooks. And as of now, his competition is Chuba Hubbard, Trevor Etn and A.J. dillon. And Etn's a little guy who profiles as a third down back and Dillon has maybe an uphill battle just to make the team. So I thought I was going to be permanently out on Jonathan Brooks after two torn ACLs, but I'm starting to feel a little more bullish. Maybe the Panthers are too, based on their lack of additions to the backfield. Obviously a third injury to that right knee would be just catastrophic. But I, I think the price on Brooks and Dynasty right now is probably worth the risk. And I have Brooks on one Dynasty roster right now. I might start investigating ways to increase my exposure because the potential payoff is pretty big. Like, Chuba Hubbard is fine, but he's a basically a league average running back. Brooks was a really highly regarded prospect and bugs. You can talk more about the kind of player Brooks was at the University of Texas. I just, I think he has a much higher ceiling than Hubbard. And you know, this draft unfolded really well for Jonathan Brooks stakeholders.

[Ryan Wormley]

I think I was, I know you said that like it's kind of a nice cheap price right now and worth the risk and the investment where he's at. But where are you actually ranking him? Like, do you think he's right now in ECR? He's our RB45 in Dynasty, which is honestly actually even a little bit higher than I expected just given how little we've gotten from him and the nature of the injuries. Does that feel like the right ranking and you just like maybe targeting him at that cost or would you be ranking him higher than that?

[Fitz Bogman]

I've got him higher. I've got a Marb 34.

[Ryan Wormley]

Okay.

[Fitz Bogman]

I've like, I've got him one spot ahead of Nick Singleton. Like he was just a better prospect than Singleton. Singleton was coming out and it's not like Brooks is old, you know, like I've got him behind David Montgomery, who obviously has like a pretty, pretty good outlook for the near term. He's an older back, but that's that's kind of the neighborhood I've got him in. I've got him a couple spots behind Jonah Coleman, But I think 45 is too low.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, maybe. Sneaky. Only 22 years old for how much life it feels like Jonathan Brooks has lived as a dynasty, you know, kind of valued asset and player in this format. Yeah, only 20. He will be 23 this summer, so before the season starts. But yeah, still. Still pretty young here. Bogman.

[Scott Bogman]

I'm not, I'm just not there with Brooks yet. I want to see what he looks like. I do think that Fitz is correct in that all the signals right now are telling us, hey, look, we believe in this guy because they could have drafted a running back at any point or picked up a good one, you know, in the process, but they, they haven't really done that. I mean, they.

[Fitz Bogman]

A.J.

[Scott Bogman]

dillon is the other guy. I do like Montel Johnson, who they still have on the roster from last year. But like, who else is competing? So I think Fitz, you're right in that. But I do worry, like, let me ask you this, Fitzy, if the Panthers sign Najee Harris or Joe Mixon, right, Like a veteran, both guys coming off of injuries and stuff like that, does that do anything to move off of your Brooks love? Or does that. Or are you just saying, hey, look, that's limping at this situation. If they want. Wanted someone behind Brooks, they would have done it much sooner.

[Fitz Bogman]

That would be a little concerning because obviously they would feel like they. They didn't have enough or maybe they weren't confident that they could get Brooks through the season.

[Scott Bogman]

I think, I think if I can get Brooks as like a throw in or as like a really cheap part of a deal or something, like I'm. I'm not trading a pick for next year. I'm trading an asset that I don't need, a wide receiver that I don't need, a tight end that I don't need, you know, whatever, something like that. Then I'd be fine acquiring Brooks. But I just want to see what it looks like because it was one year starting at Texas and looked great. But after that it's been injuries. So it's injury at the end of his career at Texas and then injury again with the Panthers. So I just want to see what he has at all. It could be training camp, right? Let's see what he has in training camp. If he looks good there, then maybe I'll be back in. But I really hate taking a guy that has had all of the more injury issues than success on the field, and I feel like that's what Brooks is.

[Fitz Bogman]

Right. You know, it's just going to take one video of Brooks making sharp cuts in shorts in training camp to drive his price way up.

[Scott Bogman]

It's true. Yeah. But I also think that that might be a good time to trade him as well. If he's still going to be like a borderline RB3, RB4 in Dynasty. I'm just not there. I'm not even close to that. So I, I, I want to see it first. But I do like this call because he's definitely rising, and I think that that makes him a trade candidate if you're rostering him and you don't really need him and he has a good training camp and his value is going to keep ticking up. I like the call out on this Fitzy, because it doesn't matter. You could go get him if you want, but you could also maybe trade him for more than he's worth right now as well. So I think it's a good call either way.

[Ryan Wormley]

I'm gonna be honest. I did not recall that A.J. dillon was with the Panthers. I had to look that up. I did a double take when you pointed that out because I just did not recall that at all. Yeah. Before we move off and we're not gonna take this long on every player, I just find Brooks to be really fascinating. Fitz Bogman said he would not trade a pick next year. Would you trade, like, I mean, a fourth, Maybe even like a late third in neck? We know next year's class is really strong for Brooks. I mean, if you have them inside your top 36 running backs, like, there's a degree of interest there. Obviously.

[Fitz Bogman]

A fourth, Yes. A third I'm not sure about. Okay.

[Ryan Wormley]

I think that's about where I'm at, too. A third, I think a fourth, I would definitely do it without really any hesitation. Even in a strong class. I think a third is where I start to feel like I'm probably going to want to be holding onto that pick a year from now.

[Fitz Bogman]

And I know most people would say a third in a draft that won't happen until a year from now. But, like, thirds in 2027 might be better than seconds in 20, 2026.

[Ryan Wormley]

Agreed. Bachmann, who's your first riser?

[Scott Bogman]

I have Bashell Tootin, and I'm not, I'm still not 100% sold on Tootin, but I don't have a say. And they didn't draft an immediate replacement or anyone to challenge him for touches really, he only had 10 or 10 carries in one game last season and he still only has 10 receptions. C Rod is the only one on this roster that has cleared 100 carries in a season and that was just last year for Washington where he scored six touchdowns as well. Because ETN at Chen, however, we're saying his name. 260 carries last season with 52 targets. They're 36 receptions and 13 touchdowns for Jacksonville. So there's a big, big opportunity for Tutin to step in and be something here. ETN was 10th in scoring among running backs and 14th in points per game in PPR. Tutin is at the front. I think his skill set matches Etchen's the most and I still think that this job can ultimately go either way. Like I'm, I think that C Rod could lead this team. I think they do like La Quint Allen. I think Jamari Taylor might be the, the best running back on this roster and he was a UDFA that they just signed. So I'm still not 100, 100% sold on Tutin being the lead back and you know, being a potential top 15 running back in fantasy like some people are. But I do, I think you do have to realize that there's not many players whose stock moved up more with Jacksonville not taking a running back. You know, there's some other things I want to get into, but I want to wait for Fitzy to bring them up with one of his followers. So I'll do that then. But I think that Tutin is a very good sell opportunity right now and he could be a good buy opportunity. So I, I think Tutin's going to be one of the most traded players in this offseason because it's people looking for a running back that see some potential and people that are stacked at running back and have him as an extra will see him as value for getting into next year's class or getting an extra pick in 2027. So I think either way you're looking at Tutin. Whether you're rostering him or want to get him on your roster, I think is kind of correct right now. And he definitely has to be one of the biggest risers after the draft.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, Fitz, this is one where I don't have any argument against anything Bogman said, but I do because I'm not quite there on Tootin, the player which, you know, Bagman is agreeing with that I like if I had to be either buying or selling, I would rather be selling because I think there is real interest here and people are looking at the same things Bogman is looking at and saying, hey, you know, there's a real Runway here. The team is saying that they believe in him in some capacity, but I just, I just get nervous with like where he's ranked right now. And so I think I'd be looking to capitalize on the right, the rising value and looking to sell.

[Fitz Bogman]

Totally understand that take. Totally understand the buying take. It's a very much. Bashal Tootin is very much an eye of the beholder type of player and I think people are going to have strong opinions either way on him, which is why I think Boggs is right that he's probably going to be one of the more traded guys in the off season. I've got him running back 23 in my dynasty rankings. I think that makes me bullish overall. Is that above consensus worm or is that.

[Ryan Wormley]

I think it's one spot ahead of consensus. Let me double check. Yeah, he's, he's RB24, the last player in tier four in the consensus rankings

[Scott Bogman]

or 24, you're right.

[Fitz Bogman]

But yeah, the fear with him is that he is going to get caught in this trap where Chris Rodriguez gets a lot of the early down work and all the goal line work and Chris Rodriguez is a, an early down banger and he did play for Liam Cohen at the University of Kentucky, but Rodriguez could not catch a cold. But they've got Laquin Allen for that who's a really good third down back and probably better pass blocker than BAE Shield Tootin 2. So if we're not getting goal line snaps for Tutin and we're not getting like a full complement of third down snaps that leaves him in that, that ugly early down between the 20s back and not even all the early down work stuff. But I, I do like the prospect profile and I think, you know, if you're going to buy on him, if you believe in the talent, you have to take advantage of the ambiguity of his role. Right now.

[Ryan Wormley]

Would you guys rather Bay Shaltin or Jadarium Price? They're back to back in consensus rankings.

[Fitz Bogman]

I've got price ranked like two spots higher.

[Scott Bogman]

Price for me 21 and I have two and a 26. Okay.

[Ryan Wormley]

Price is one spot ahead. I should clarify in any CR. So you guys are in line with that. They're very close though. Okay, let's go to Fitz's next riser, Roma Dunes.

[Fitz Bogman]

I, I thought the Bears might add a receiver in last month's draft. They did, but it was Avian Thomas. Who's more of a kick returner and gadget player than an actual wide receiver. The Bears did spend a third round pick on Thomas, but it's still hard to see him playing any sort of significant role in the offense. He topped out at 503 receiving yards in college and it's just hard to see a 5 foot 10, 190 pound receiver who primarily played on the outside in college translating to the NFL. So as of now, the Bears depth chart at receiver looks like this. It's Roma, Dunes A, Luther Burden, Khalif Raymond, Xavian Thomas and basically no one else of note. They do have Colston Loveland who looks like he's quickly going to establish himself as one of the best tight ends in the league, but man, Roma Dunes A is going to get a lot of snaps and a lot of targets. Got off to a fast start last season, then a stress fracture in his foot kind of robbed him of his effectiveness and eventually had to miss a month late in the season. I think things are set up really nice for a third year breakout for Odunze. And by the way, one of the other reasons I'm bullish on O'Dunes and the bears passing game in general. I thought the Bears were going to be really focused on the defensive side of the ball in the draft and they did take Oregon safety Dylan thieman in the first round when he fell to them at 25. Then the Bears took offensive players with all three of their day two picks which I did not see coming and I know people here in Chicago are very disappointed. The Bears didn't do more defensively in the draft and didn't get any edge rushers at all, which is kind of a source of concern.

[Scott Bogman]

I read Fitzy that they think Austin Booker is going to be a stud like that. That's he is the reason why they didn't take another edge rusher.

[Fitz Bogman]

I buy that. I do think Booker is like sneaky good.

[Scott Bogman]

I do too. I think he's he's pretty good but I was still even knowing that I was still surprised they didn't take another edge. They need more rotation there for sure.

[Fitz Bogman]

Yeah, but even if Booker like is an up and coming double digit sack guy, although the Bear secondary could be pretty good, the front seven is still probably one of the weaker ones in the so we could see Caleb Williams in the Bears offense in a lot of shootouts this year, which would certainly bode well for Odunze and some of the other components of this passing attack.

[Ryan Wormley]

I am extremely interested in acquiring as much Roma Dunze as I can this off season. I think he is going to be a lot more expensive a year from now. I think his reality is a lot closer to the hot start we saw at the beginning of last season than it is the you know injury riddled finish. You know year two in this offense for Caleb. Like you said, you know not investing the defense could lead to shootouts like I if he's coming into the season healthy such an opportunity like I would I Luther Burden is ranked higher in the consensus dynasty rankings. I will be 0% surprised if a Dunes A you know is the better player this year. I loved him as a prospect when he came out of Washington. I'm. I'm very much a believer obviously like most people are in this, you know Ben Johnson offense. I am a believer in Caleb got the opportunity talent third year. Like I could not be higher on a Dunes. If anybody is in a dynasty league with me I will overpay for a Dunes A. That's how much I believe in him. I I really really am on board with this one Fitz and I do have him in one dynasty league with you so obviously I won't be giving him away in that one but if we're in any other leagues together like give me all the dunes that you got. He's, he's ranked by the way like wide receiver 26. He's not even inside the top 24 in dynasty consensus rankings. The names directly ahead of him, Makai Lemon, Jalen Waddle, Zay Flowers, T. Higgins, Jordan Tyson, Luther Burden that goes from 20 to 25 and I just, I'm

[Scott Bogman]

just not there with the rookies yet over him.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, I agree. I would much rather have a dunesday than Makai Lemon or Jordan Tyson.

[Scott Bogman]

Would you rather have him than Carnell Tate? I think I still would. Tate.

[Ryan Wormley]

I would consider more of a I would go back and forth on and would need to like really think about

[Scott Bogman]

that because I'm at only four spots different 19 and 23 but I do like I still have a Dunes A up there and I think you know DJ Moore is gone and like Fitzy said the the depth behind these guys is really weak right now so they're going to be on the field as much as possible and the defense got weaker specifically in the secondary losing both their starting safety. So yeah I'm I'm all about this one. Great call Fitzy.

[Ryan Wormley]

What would you look for in a trade with picks fits if you were trying to acquire Duzay? Because I feel like given how strong the class is a first next year feels like too much, but a second feels like it wouldn't get it done. So, like, what is the kind of the right thing to be aiming for if you were trying to trade for a Dunes?

[Fitz Bogman]

Yeah, that's kind of it. I'm not giving up a first in the 2027 draft form. I might. I'd probably give up a second straight up. I. I definitely would. And you know, either that or a second and some change. You know, a second and Jalen Coker, something like that.

[Scott Bogman]

Okay. I think that's it too. And just by the way, there's no world where I trade a Dunes a for less than a first. So I, I think he's going to be. He might be difficult to trade for because if I'm rostering him, you're giving me a first. You're not getting him. That's just how it's going to go.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, that, that's the thing. I feel like he won't be traded that much because I think a lot of people will have that viewer. If you're getting rid of him, you need a first. But if you're like trying to get him, you're like, I'll give up anything but a first. And it feels like he's kind of in that, you know, gray area of Fitz. You do have him in. In our work Dynasty league. I might have to send you an offer later since now, you know. All right. I want to let everybody know that our Dynasty draft simulator lets you crush a full mock in minutes with absolutely no waiting between picks. You can customize every setting to match your league's exact format. And for our MVP and Hall of Fame subscribers, you can even test trade scenarios by mocking with your actual traded draft picks. Not at that tier yet. Grab a 3 day free trial of a premium subscription right [e-mail] Dynasty 26. Prepare for rookie drafts and Dynasty startup drafts all in one place. Go to fantasyprose.com simulator to be the most prepared person on draft day.

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[Ryan Wormley]

Bogman, who is your next riser?

[Scott Bogman]

I think this one's kind of obvious, but Cam Ward I think again pretty obvious, but not only does he get the new OC and Brian Dabel, but an entirely new wide receiver core basically. I mean Calvin Ridley is back from only six starts in 2026 with an injury that kind of bothered him the whole year. Carnell Tate is a new deep threat and obviously they added Wandell Robinson underneath Jackson. Darth Under Day Ball was eighth in scoring in points per game last season. He's a better runner than Ward, we know that. But I think Ward has the athleticism to run. He just wasn't really asked to do it that much at Washington State or Miami. So if he's asked to do it more, I think he definitely can. But I also think that the Titans are going to fix this defense. They were 25th in time of possession last season because the defense was so leaky. The O line wasn't as good and they've upgraded there. So I just think this is going to be a much better team for Cam Ward this season. You know they were 29th in plays in Tennessee last year. He's going to have way more and I think he can at least be a QB2 in a Super flex league or a nice like bench option with some huge swing games for you. But in super flex I think he's going to play as a QB2 and he has potential to move into that high end QB2 spot as well. I don't know that he pushes for a QB1 spot this season, but I think that's where we are going to start heading with Cam Ward with this offense in a much much better spot than it was last year because he has way better targets and I I didn't think they could do this much with it this fast, but they really have. They ignored the the running backs almost completely. Outside of drafting Singleton, he thought Maybe Pollard or Spears would go and maybe they'd hit the reset button there, but they're, they're keeping those guys too. So I just think this offense is going to be so improved and I think we're going to see a really huge jump from Cam or from season one to season two.

[Ryan Wormley]

Tier three in the consensus dynasty rankings on fantasypros.com runs from quarterback 10 to 15. It's Dart, Lawrence, Purdy, Knicks, Prescott, Love. I find it hard to imagine Ward breaking into that, but the next several names at the top of tier 4, Baker, Stroud, Goff, Mendoza, then Ward at QB20. I think Ward can absolutely kind of solidify himself atop that group of names with a step forward this year given what they've done and like put around him this offseason because I like the player and I like, I like what they've done this season, this off season. And I can see a jump there, there, there's a level of jump that's hard for me to imagine, but a smaller jump. I'm absolutely on board. Fitz, where are you at on Ward?

[Fitz Bogman]

Yeah, I am with Bogman. I think he's a nice growth, nice growth stock. I've got him at quarterback 16, one spot behind Fernando Mendoza and like he and Mendoza are sort of that. I don't know if they're sort of barrier quarterbacks between like the hoy ploy that the top shelf quarterbacks and sort of the second tier. Like I've got CJ Stroud right behind him and Dak Prescott. So I guess that those guys are potentially. Stroud's a potentially good young quarterback and Dak is good in the here and now. But I do feel like these guys are, they're going to play up to be quarterback one types at some points and like we saw the growth for Cam ward in year one when he had seven touchdown passes in his first 12 games. Like no games with double digit TD passes for the first three months of the season. Then he had four straight games with two touchdown passes towards the end of the season. Barely played in 18. So the streak was broken there. But like he improved down the stretch. Things got better for him and obviously he was so shorthanded with his pass catchers with Shamir DK and Elicaya Manor being his top guys. Two rookies, you know, two rookie, like

[Scott Bogman]

they did good for what they were but right, they're not there yet.

[Fitz Bogman]

Yeah, right. Two rookies, neither of them first rounders. So you know Wandaill is going to help him a lot as a short area Guy sort of an outlet target and Carnell Tate making plays downfield. And you've still got IO, Manor and dk. Plus maybe whatever we've got left in the tank for Calvin Ridley. Like things should be a lot better for him this year.

[Ryan Wormley]

Bogman, would you rather Mendoza or Ward?

[Scott Bogman]

I would rather Mendoza, but I think it's pretty close and I think that everything that Fitz said is correct. Like I don't think we were big believers in Bo Nicks and now he's, you know, a QB one. Trevor Lawrence has wavered up and down. So is CJ Stroud. He has been like up in the top five and then back down again. So I don't think it's impossible for him to break into that QB1 area. But if you're going to buy him, you got to buy him now before he gets there. Because the price is way, way different now than it will be a year from now. If he does finish As a top 15 quarterback, we're going to see. Okay, well he's already, you know, a borderline qb, one with rising potential. And if they add another weapon next year, maybe a tight end or another wide receiver, whatever it is, somebody replaced Ridley, who is old, you know, he's just going to. He's going to be so much more valuable after this season. I think that this is kind of your last get in now stage where it could be possibly cheap.

[Ryan Wormley]

Fitz, who's your next riser?

[Fitz Bogman]

Christian Watson. Packer Homerism at its finest. I thought the packers might draft a receiver as early as the second round, and there was talk that they like Chris Brazil and Ted Hurst. Wouldn't have been surprised if one of those guys had gone to Green Bay on day two. They didn't draft one at all. Packers signed J. Michael Sturtevant as an unrestricted free agent, and I know there's some smart people who like Sturtevant, including Matt Waldman, my guy Dan Schneier of cbs. But like, Sturtevant isn't even assured of making the roster. So basically it's Christian Watson, Jaden Reed, Matthew Golan at wide receiver for the Packers. You've got tight end Tucker Kraft coming off torn acl, so he may or may not be full go to start the season. We could see a big uptick in Watson's usage this year, and I think he could be a monster this season if he can just stay healthy. Watson averaged 17 and a half yards per catch last year, 11.1 yards per target, 2.28 yards per route run, all terrific numbers. He's 6 4, has 4, 3, 6 speed. A high quality quarterback in Jordan Love. Like the physical tools, the setup for him, it all points toward big things. If he can just dodge the injury bug, which, hey, I mean, he's missed 20 games in four NFL seasons and he's had a torn ACL. So I understand people are going to be really skeptical about him playing 15, 16, 17 games, but, man, I think the potential rewards here are well worth the risk.

[Ryan Wormley]

What kind of ceiling do you see? Like, best case scenario, like, how high do you think he could finish this year?

[Fitz Bogman]

Let's say he could be the 2026. He could be to 2026 with George Pickens was to 2025. That's how good I think he could be.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, I. I'm actually thinking about trading him in one of my leagues. Well, it's not a league that fits, but I'm thinking about trading him away basically to see kind of what kind of draft capital I could get back in next year's class again. It's another type of guy where it's like a first is going to be too much, but a second's probably not enough given the ceiling we see. So another one of those guys, I think is a little trickier. Unless you disagree.

[Fitz Bogman]

Fitzgerald. No, I mean, I think. I don't. Like, I. Some people are so skeptical about his health outlook that I don't think they'd even give you a second for him. But I would take Watson for a second in a heartbeat, even though I love next year's draft class.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, I mean, I definitely, as a Watson manager, I wouldn't sell him for anything less than a second. So if somebody said, oh, no, you're not even getting that, then that conversation's not even happening. I mean, he finished so strong last year, Bogman, like, when. When he came back, he was something like wide receiver 13 from like week 11 on that. And it was shocking how well he did coming back from the injury, like Fitz pointed out. So where are you at on Watson? He's 34th, by the way, in consensus rankings amongst receivers.

[Scott Bogman]

I am out. I look and it's not. I'm in on his skill. I think the skills are incredible for Watson. They really are. And I think he proved that last year. Right. I was majorly on the fence last year, but then he was going great and everything was looking good and then he got hurt again. I. I just. I am. I am so tired of rostering guys that are questionable every single week. And I feel like that is Watson. Maybe he'll only miss a handful of games but I feel like every week he's on the fence and you're not sure whether you used to start him him or not. So he's a frustrating player to roster. Hopefully that changes I'd love to see because I do think Fitz is right the the absolute peak and ceiling could be what Pickens did last year. I think he's not as good as Pickens so I don't know that that like all the way he could get there but he could be in the same vein for sure. So the skill is definitely in there. But the old scouting trope man, just availability is the best ability and he does not have that. So I'm I'm not going to be in on Christian Watson, although I see the appeal both ways. But I do feel like when Fitz was saying some people that I am some people I'm the guy that's just out on Watson overall because of the injury issues. So not for me. But I understand the point and it is really important to make.

[Fitz Bogman]

There are social media team put out a clip of me on a different show using the George Pickens comparison and like the comments were unbelievable. Like he'll just get hurt again. Like everyone is totally out on on Watson because of the injury history and I get it but man like if that brings him to me at a substantial discount I'll take it because this guy's talent is pretty unbelievable and Pickens

[Scott Bogman]

might hold out next year. Like he's just such a weird dude. There's weird stuff with Pickens as well. But I it's, it's off the field stuff or weird stuff. It's less concerning than the injuries to me for Watson. So yeah, I'm just not going to be in on Watson. But I do think his stock is undoubtedly rising and but is it going to be him or Golden?

[Fitz Bogman]

I think no, no no no no no no. I mean the the town playing golden

[Scott Bogman]

is the guy Fitzy.

[Fitz Bogman]

That's well if he's not hurt that gives Golden a chance. But if they're on the field together I guarantee you Watson out produces gold.

[Scott Bogman]

Agree with that and I'm a golden guy and I agree with that because Watson did prove it last year. But is he going to be on the field and is his career going to be shortened because of all these injuries? I think it will. So I'm not going to be rostering him.

[Ryan Wormley]

For what it's worth on the trade kind of pick value conversation, our our May update on the Dynasty trade value chart on fantasypros.com has Watson roughly equivalent to a late first next year in terms of the numerical value.

[Scott Bogman]

So I just would never do that.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, that, that, that feels like I, I don't. I think people will be too scared off by the injuries, but if you find somebody who's willing to be more aggressive and thinks they're, they're going to be picking late, I mean again, I think a second is probably more.

[Fitz Bogman]

I mean if like Watson has 300 yards after the first three games of the season, 300 yards, three touchdowns, maybe you can get that. But like you need to see a real fast start from Watson I think to get a late first.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, we've got one more riser Bogman, who is it?

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, I'm going to go with Jack Besh here. This is kind of a way down one, but I think you can get Jack Besh for a song right now. He's basically free. Last night when I looked his ECR was like in the 90s among wide receivers and they added almost nothing to this wide receiver core over the course of the off season. With a core of Trey Tucker, Dante Thornton and Jack Besh, they have added Jalen Naylor and Malik Benson and Derek Young, a special teamer. They have done nothing to add for Mendoza here.

[Ryan Wormley]

Now by the way, Bogman, just interrupt quickly. Besh is wide receiver 94. Trey Tucker is wide receiver 93. They're back to back in the 90s.

[Scott Bogman]

Somebody has to catch the ball here. I know Bowers is going to get most of it obviously, but someone is going to produce here. And I think we forget that Besh is a second round pick from last year. Obviously win a lot of through a lot in the off season with his brother passing away. But I mean just look at the Raiders from last season. Geno Smith at the helm O line was God awful, right. They were 30th in run blocking, 28th and pass blocking. They've signed Linderbaum and Burford and Colton Miller. They get back after only four games last year. They get their number one target to free open a lot of targets for other guys in Brock Bowers who was hurt week one last year and was never the same guy. And they get Clint Kubiak and like I said, they limped at this issue at wide receivers. So I think maybe they believe in Besh a little bit and if even if they don't, Besh is going to be given a Runway to succeed with Mendoza and Mendoza has done a lot for wide receivers. So I think that Besh right Now could be had for a song. He could be free. You could pick him up on the wire in some spots right now as well. And this is still a second round pick with a lot of potential. He only had the 1000 yards season in college so I know it didn't have like a long ramp up and a Runway but he's really good in the Senior bowl last year as well. I just, I think that Besh is being 100% completely overlooked right now and is a guy that you can just add and see. Right? It never hurts to add and see. So I think that's where we're at with Besh right now. So I just wanted to mention him as a riser because they limped at this issue and have not fixed it yet. I do think they fix it next year with money or with picks but maybe Besh is established as a good number two by then.

[Ryan Wormley]

No, I think this is a fantastic call. How could he not be a riser? They added the quarterback at the out of the offensive play caller and they didn't add really anything of note at pass catcher. I mean it just feels like a very obvious one and he is so cheap the names that he is surrounded by. Trey Tucker, Keon Coleman, Malik Washington, Rashad Bateman, Darnell Mooney, Cooper cup.

[Scott Bogman]

Like it's not not bad in the 90s either. By the way, why does she was pretty deep.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, true. But yeah, I think he's the type of player that like if you can get him for like a late 4th or 5th rounder maybe even in next year's class, like do it. That that's a worthwhile trade in my opinion.

[Scott Bogman]

Fitz.

[Fitz Bogman]

Yeah, so this isn't just revenge on Bogman for dumping on my Christian Watson call. But you know, if, if I could have Jack Bash for a song, I'm just going to keep my song. Even if it's a song I don't like. A Justin Bieber song, a polka song. I'm. I'm just not interested in Jack Bash right now.

[Scott Bogman]

He didn't show me flat Packer fan doesn't like the POCA song. I find that hard to believe.

[Fitz Bogman]

We do like our polka in Wisconsin, no question about that. But yeah, there wasn't enough from him his rookie year. Yes, there's an upgrade clearly with Fernando Mendoza coming in eventually. I know our colleague Debro thinks like Kirk Cousins is going to start the whole season and they're going to red shirts. Well either way for the entire year they're not going to redshirt. I mean Kirk Cousin does stink and you know Clint Kubiak is going to be making that switch sooner rather than later, I promise. But like Bash got beaten out basically at the start of last season for playing time by Deontay Thornton and Thornton was what, like a seventh round pick? Like Thornton outplayed him and saw the field faster and was running more routes and playing more snaps early in the year. And like, you know, Thornton obviously wasn't a solution either. But like Besh had what, 20 catches last year for 200 some yards. There were opportunities there. Bowers was hurt for much of the year and he just could not capitalize. So I'm really skeptical. I would obviously love to see Besh come through. He seems like a really nice kid. He had the tragedy with his brother. We were just in New Orleans for our company trip a couple months ago and like walk by the tiger. Bash Memorial. Really tragic and sad what happened there. I'd love to see Jack Besh make it. I'm just really skeptical after how little we got from him in his rookie year.

[Ryan Wormley]

Strong disagreement on this one. I definitely would side with Bogman. I think it's a worthwhile bet at the Limited. I would give up a song that I don't like for Jack, even if it's not all right. You can evaluate trades with confidence using the Trade Analyzer instantly see the impact of trades on your team and get expert recommendations whether you're receiving a two for one package or swapping draft picks for that stud who will help you win. Now our analyzer helps you make smarter data driven decisions. Access to the Trade Analyzer is included. For all Premium subscribers. Start your three day free trial today at fantasypros.com dynasty26 and win the trade market with the trade [e-mail] MyPlaybook let's get to the followers. We went a little long in the risers, so we'll move a little more quickly here on the guys. We're going to be a little negative about Fitz. Start us off.

[Fitz Bogman]

This one hurts my heart. It's Malik Willis. I was really hoping the Dolphins were going to do more to help Malik Willis in this year's draft. Namely, I was hoping they'd add one of the top five or six wide receivers and at least one offensive lineman by the end of day two. They did get an offensive lineman. They took Kaden Proctor with their top draft pick, 12th overall. And they did add three wide receivers. I just don't know how soon Kaden Proctor is going to be an asset. He's he's 6 7, 366. He's a giant. The potential is immense. But I just, I don't think he's ready to play tackle for the Dolphins right now and I think if he does, he's going to have trouble with speedy edge guys. Then there were the three receivers they drafted. One of them, Chris Bell, coming off a torn acl, probably is going to miss training camp, in which case Malik Willis and Chris Bell won't be able to work on their timing. So Bell might not be ready for the start of the season and might not have much of a year one impact. The other receivers they drafted, Caleb Douglas, third round Speed Merchant who was just unanimously labeled a huge reach and Kevin Coleman, a fifth round slot guy. So add those three to Malik Washington, two two Atwell, Jay, Jalen, Tolbert and tight end Greg Dulcich. Like man, this still looks like one of the worst pass catching groups in the league, if not the worst. Just feels like Malik Willis is getting set up to fail guys like. And with the Dolphins clearly in rebuild mode, they could very well be in position to draft Arch Manning, Dante Moore, whichever other quarterback is at or near the top of the class next year. So even though he's going to deliver rushing value as a quarterback, Malik Willis is going to be hard pressed to deliver passing value with such a poor set of weapons. And I just, it doesn't seem like Willis is going to get a fair opportunity to prove that he can be Miami's long term quarterback.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, Bogman, what do you, what do you think when you're evaluating Willis of the idea that Miami went with the quantity over quality approach when addressing receiver in this draft? I mean they had so many picks that they could afford to spend a few of them at the position. So they took swings. But obviously as Fitz highlighted, you're not, I mean you, you do love Chris Bell, Bogman, but like not at the top level of receivers in the class. And do you look at it as saying hey, like if he's not, if he's there aren't all these options to throw to, then maybe he will take off and run more which we like in fantasy decisions see our quarterbacks do. I think for me like the hardest thing to get behind Bogman is just the idea of like if the idea that this is a one year thing that they will be picking high next year and then that's when they're actually get their quarterback the future. They didn't, they didn't invest as much financially that I thought he might get this offseason they didn't invest in the passing game. It feels like even if he has a surprisingly good and fun season for fantasy managers this year because, oh, he runs more or whatever it is, it just feels like this is like all those day three running backs that we always are, like, oh, they're good, but like the team's going to take a guy higher next year. Kind of feels like the quarterback version of that with Willis.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, I, I, I think I'm with you on that. Like, I, I think that Fitz is right in the fact that, like, has there been someone more set up to fail? Maybe it was Tyler Schuck last year, right? Like, they, they was questions on Olave coming off all the concussions and Alan Kamara was hurt and the offensive line was a question as well, and Tyler Schuck just made it work. So that was nice. Maybe we get that from Malik Willis, but I think, I think I'm sold on part of this, but I'm not sold on the other part. I'm sold on the part that Malik Willis has not been set up to succeed this year and he's definitely lost value since the draft. Right. I think Fitz is 100% correct about that. Chris Bell coming off a major injury, the reach on Caleb Douglas, you know, maybe Kevin Coleman can be their guy, but Malik Washington and Jalen Tolbert and all that, they don't have a good receiving core right now. So I'm not a big fan of what he could potentially put on the field this season. But I do think that they did that with the plan of let's take pass catchers next year, not quarterbacks. So I do think you will get a longer look. Unless he just throws so many interceptions and it's just terrible with the ball in his hands for the whole year. I think that they're going to keep him at quarterback and add weapons around him. So I kind of think that was a plan. Is next year okay? Maybe we have Jeremiah Smith and then Chris Bell's 100 healthy and Malik Willis looks like a completely different player. But if that is the case, then I think the time to buy Malik Willis is about six weeks in when no one can start him. Right. Because he's just not doing anything and people are super frustrated. I think that is going to be the best time to buy Malik Willis because his value will sink as low as it can get. And then you buy him.

[Fitz Bogman]

So you don't know then he could be, you could be buying a guy that's going to be a backup in 2027.

[Scott Bogman]

Correct. It's a risk. It's a risk now though too because if you buy him now, what if he's running like crazy and he looks like Jackson Dart? Right. Like I would not be shocked with that result either. So it's a double edged sword. It cuts both ways. But I think if you're going to get the most value out of Willis, it's probably a month to six weeks into the season when they're one in five and things aren't looking good and there's rumblings about them making, you know, a selection of a quarterback. But Fitz is right, it's a dangerous prospect at that point. So I think all of this is to say that Fitz is right in that his stock has definitely dropped since the draft because they made no effort to give him weapons.

[Fitz Bogman]

Yeah, Willis, Willis I think is a better quarterback than Justin Fields. But like I'm worried that it's going to look like Justin Fields look like early last season.

[Scott Bogman]

It very well could. I would not be surprised. I mean, is there a worse roster in the NFL than Miami? I think it's Miami is worse by a lot.

[Fitz Bogman]

Right. That's what scares me, that they're going to be in the Arch Manning zone.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

[Ryan Wormley]

Bogman, who is your first follower, hurts

[Scott Bogman]

me to say this is Corland Sutton and I love Cortland Sutton. I feel like I've been the Cortland Sutton defender for the last few years. But you know, they traded for Waddle, which is probably when the most damage was done. But they also added weapons. They added Jonah Coleman to catch passes out of the backfield. And the two tight ends that they drafted in, Jolie and Dallin Bentley, are both receiving tight ends that play different spots. Jolie plays in the slot, Bentley plays in line. You know, they're late picks, they're not going to make a massive impact. But I think you couple all of these little death by a thousand cuts with the fact that Troy Franklin got better last year. Pat Bryant looked pretty good last year. You added Jalen Waddle. I just think there's way more places for the ball to go at this point. And Sutton, you know, he still has a few good season left. He's only 31. He was 22nd points per game last season, but 13th overall. And I think I'm viewing him more in the wide receiver 3, 4 borderline category. And I think I'm still ahead of EC on Cortland Sutton, but I think it's hard to look at Sutton and see the last couple years where he's been so good and been by far the best target on this team. And I think you look now and you go, well, look, Franklin was making improvements, Bryant was pretty good and Waddle comes in here to be the number one target. So I think that there's no doubt that Cortland Sutton's stock is dropping. I feel like there's still people buying on him though, and I just wouldn't do that right now. So Sutton is one of my biggest followers.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, Fitz, where are you at on Sutton? He is in consensus rankings, wide receiver

[Fitz Bogman]

39 I've got him wide receiver 48 some with Boggs here and generally like I don't love the too many mouths to feed narrative and I'll push back on it if I think a guy's a good player and I think Sutton's a good player. But at the same time, not only is it that they have brought in Jalen Waddle and you know, added some other rookie weapons like Jonah Coleman and Justin Jolie, but like the Denver defense is awesome. So it's not like Denver is going to be involved in a lot of shootouts. Like ideally, Bo Nix is not going to have to throw more than about 30 passes in most of the Broncos games. So when you've got kind of an offense that's able to manage the ball and not cut it loose and have a lot of 40 attempt, 45 pass attempt games, then the path narrows when you've got a team with a diverse group of weapons and that's sort of what Denver is looking at. So it's really hard to see Sutton getting, you know, getting to 120 targets even seems like it might be a stretch this year, in which case it's going to be real hard for him to piece together a thousand yard season.

[Ryan Wormley]

Let's keep it moving on the followers. Fitz, who's your next guy?

[Fitz Bogman]

Yeah, I've got Zach Charbonnet and I I really kind of, I wanted to buy low on Zach Charbonnet. Honestly in the off season, I really didn't think the Seahawks were going to take a running back in the first round. They only had four total draft picks. Seahawks GM John Schneider has a habit of trading down in the first round anyway. But the Seahawks did draft Jadarian price at number 32. He's going to be a big factor in the Seattle backfield while Charbonnet recovers from a torn acl and Charbonnet didn't have surgery to repair that torn ACL until February. So it's a good Bet he's not back until October at the earliest. Maybe not back till November. Then you have to figure he's going to have a limited workload for a couple of weeks. So already you're getting not much of a return from him in 2026. And this is going to be the last year of his contract in Seattle. So in addition to the short season, and by the way, if Jadarin Price is a smash hit, it's possible Charbonnet is going to be a backup when he comes back. And then Charbonnet in the last year of his contract, we don't know where he's going to be playing in 2027 or what his role is going to be. So I had been talking myself into Charbonnet as a buy low and after the drafting of Jadarian Price, like that really let the air out of the Zach Charbonnet balloon for me.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, I have Charbonnet a few places and I think if somebody wants to buy low, I will let them. The surgery not happening till late February is just so scary. Like, even with modern recovery times, like, it's really hard to imagine him being any kind of fantasy asset this season in a best case scenario before like basically the fantasy playoffs are starting. I mean, it's, it's not a good timeline. He's already 25 years old, so like running backs start to get a little older. If you're kind of ruling out this year being relevant now. He's in the back half of his 20s going into next year. They just invested a first rounder at the position. I'm with you, Fitz. On, on him being a follower. Bogman, where are you at on Charbonnet and where is he ranked for you? He's. I was just looking at him. He's RB 28 in consensus.

[Scott Bogman]

28. I have him. Let me just double check this. I have him at 26. No, 27. I'm sorry, because I have 2 and 26. So yeah, I have, I have him at 27. I think Fitz is correct. Right. Like, specifically for this year, what are we seeing at all from Charbonnet? I think his target date is Halloween, so that's going to push him back to November at best. Maybe a playoff run for your fantasy playoffs for him. But if Jadarian Price is already rocking, he is going to be easily number two and even next year he's a free agent. Let's say he goes somewhere and signs he's behind Taylor, hn, Chase Brown, Tony Pollard. There are so many free agents for next year. As well. He's kind of, kind of going to be lost in that shuffle in my opinion as well. So I think this is if he wasn't on Fitz's list, he would have been on my list for sure because something, you know, we're, we keep talking up to Darian Price and Charbonnet has to be on the other end of that.

[Ryan Wormley]

Where is he ranked for you?

[Fitz Bogman]

Fitzgerald, 28. I guess I'm right in, in line.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, I think that's reflective of there's just not a lot of very exciting options after that range. It's, it's less that we want to like, like I think we are all kind of in agreement on Charbonnet. Even if he's still ranked inside the top 30, he's one spot in consensus ahead of Kyle Manangai. I would rather have Kyle Manangai on my roster. Two years younger, not coming off the injury, you know, some, you know, an opportunity in Chicago still. So yeah, like those are the types of names he's around. I get why he's ranked there, but he has to be a faller. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock bet, Florida's sportsbook. We talk a lot of football on the show, but the second round of the NBA playoffs is here. The lights are brighter, the pressure is higher and every possession can change a series. And on Hard Rock Bet, every night is your shot to score a major bucket with winner. Go home energy on the hardwood. I love building same game parlays. You might like the hot hand to drop 30, the big man to control the glass with a double double and the point guard to dish out five assists. However you draw it up, Hard Rock Bet gives you tons of ways to stack your picks into a same game parlay built for the playoffs. If you're ever late to tip off, don't worry. Hard Rock Bet lets you live bet all game long from the first bucket to the final buzzer. Try your first bet on Hard Rock Bet today and you can score $150 in bonus bets. If you win, just place a five dollar bet and if it hits, you get not only your winnings but also an extra $150 in bonus bets. But the welcome offer is just the tip. Hard Rock BET has new promos daily, so open up the app right now to see what promo you've got today. Ensure Hard Rock Bet is Florida's only legal sportsbook, but you don't have to be in Florida to join the party. Hard Rock Bet is also live In Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois, Colorado and Michigan. With more states on the way. Download the Hard Rock Bet app today and let's get the party started.

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[Ryan Wormley]

All right, just a few more names here to get through. Bogman who is a follower for you?

[Scott Bogman]

Bill Crosky Merritt. I don't understand why he's inside the top 40 running backs. And look, I get that the Commanders didn't spend a high pick, you know, in the draft to get a running back here that, you know, they took Katron Allen in the sixth but Crosby Merritt was a seventh round pick, right? And they also signed Rashad White. So it just seems to me like the Commanders aren't a team that wants to see cross game Merritt carry the ball 175 times again like they did last season. It looks like they're finding a way to solve this problem, but any of these guys can lead this team in touches. But I think what we do know is that Rashad White is going to lead out of the backfield in receptions because cross Camara had 10 catches last year, right? I think Katrin Allen didn't have a ton at Penn State either. So it's definitely going to be Rashad White on third downs. Then we go and we look at at the goal line carries cross key. Merritt was 42nd in team carries inside the 5 percentage, right? White was 33rd. But Katron Allen scored in every game for Penn State last year except against the national champs, the game that they played against Indiana. So I think Catron Allen like this might be a gross mix of Crosky Merritt on first and second downs, Katron Allen behind him trying to pace him until maybe pushing Crosky Merritt out and Rashad White on third downs. But I think any way you break this backfield up, Jecori Kraski Merritt is losing touches this year. So I don't really understand why he's like on the RB3 borderline. I think that's way too high for his value. They didn't invest a lot in him and they've already made two moves to improve this backfield. So I'm just not the biggest fan of Crosby Baron. I think he's a little bit overrated right now.

[Ryan Wormley]

Fitz, where he's at for you? He's 39th in ECR.

[Fitz Bogman]

Yeah, he is. Boy, I have to scroll down a little bit so I think I've got him below that. Yeah, 40. So I, I definitely don't think we're going to see the sort of Crosky mania in August of 2026 that we saw in August of 2025. But he was a pretty efficient runner last year in some ways, like success rates and yards after contact per carry. I think he did fairly well. So there, there were some little signals suggesting that he might be a decent back. But I agree with Boggs. It's going to be pretty messy. He's not a pass catcher, which generally isn't going to help him much in dynasty formats which are full point ppr. So I mean this is just one of those things like I might be interested in trading for him if I'm thin at running back and I'm playing in like a basketball dynasty format or something. And I can capture the good weeks he has. But it is just a. That that Washington team just generally I. It's going to be really interesting because they've got a good quarterback and then it's just Terry McLaurin and this huge amalgam of pass catchers and running backs. I don't know how things are going to play out. That's going to be one of the more interesting teams to follow in training camp in the preseason.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, I feel like I'll be investing in redraft leagues a lot in Jaden Daniels rather than trying to figure out who the right people are around him.

[Fitz Bogman]

To Daniels, McLaurin Stay away from everyone else.

[Scott Bogman]

I think Rashad White played with Jane Daniels at ASU a little bit too. So yep, a little connection there might have been brought in by recommendation from Jane Daniels.

[Fitz Bogman]

So did. So did Brandon Iuk, who is rumored to be a potential signing.

[Ryan Wormley]

One more follower each fits. Who's yours?

[Fitz Bogman]

Yeah. So if we had. If this hadn't happened this morning, maybe it would have been around a Gadsden after the trade that brought David Najoku to the Chargers. I didn't go with Gadsden here, although this is tangentially related to the tight end position I took Parker Washington, a guy I think I touted on this very show not long ago as a potential buy for me that was pre draft. Like we've talked about the Chargers pass catchers on other shows during the off season. I've mentioned that I have been interested in whoever's going to be Jacksonville's primary slot guy because Trevor Lawrence seems to like throwing the tight ends and slot receivers more than outside receivers. But in the draft the Jaguars didn't have a first rounder and with their second round pick, GM James Gladstone made the curious decision to draft Texas A and M tight end Nate Porkircher. Later in the fifth round he drafted University of Houston tight end Tanner Coziol. They already have 25 year old tight end Brenton Strange who had 46 catches for 540 yards last season. So by drafting a day two tight end with their first pick of the draft and then later adding another, you'd have to think the Jaguars are planning to use more multiple tight end sets this season. More 12 personnel, more 13 personnel. Perhaps sort of following the lead that Sean Payton. Not Sean Payton, sorry, Sean McVay set with the Rams last year. He was using a lot of 12 and a lot of 13 and it seems like the league is shifting that way. And we got this, this tight end rush on day two of the draft this year. So 12 personnel means there are only two wide receivers on the field. 13 means there's only one wide receiver on the field. Which of the Jaguars top three wide receivers are going to get squeezed on snaps? You've got Parker Washington, Brian Thomas Jr. Jacoby Myers, or maybe they all get a slight haircut and snaps and they all lose a little bit of value. The reason I'm most worried for Parker Washington, not only have the Jaguars added these extra tight ends, but they've also said that Travis Hunter is still going to play some snaps at wide receiver. And last year Hunter played 41% of his snaps at receiver in the slot. So I'm worried about Parker Washington's usage. Like more generally, I'm just sort of worried about all of Jacksonville's receivers which sucks man, because I want to invest in Liam Cohen's offense. I like Liam Cohen, think he had things on the upswing last year. Trevor Lawrence was awesome down the stretch but I just, I'm worried about how this is going and that it's going to be really predictable to get the right pass catchers for the Jaguars.

[Ryan Wormley]

Well this is another one fits where I would say invest in Trevor Lawrence and don't try to figure out the rest. Yeah, Brian Thomas Jr. For what it's worth is 29th in dynasty ECR right now Jacoby Myers is 42nd amongst receivers and Parker Washington has is down at 50. So definitely, you know, a faller here. What do you make of the whole just Jacksonville situation in general Bogman for dynasty purposes, I think is such a

[Scott Bogman]

great point that Fitz brought up a couple days ago. And then I was on a show with Bob Harris and Pizza Pia last week and we were talking about Parker Washington and I brought up Fitzy's point and I went and looked it up, right? Like the rams went from 31st in the NFL in 2024 to first in 13 personnel. They went from under 2% to number one in the league by a lot. It was like over 30% that they played in 13 personnel. And I think Pittsburgh was the second highest at 18% or something. So it's a copycat league. And I think what Fitz said is exactly right, which is the point that I decided to leave out of my Bay Shaltin argument for him. Right. Is they're going to have more blockers on the field more often this season with the two tight end and three tight end sets for Tutin to potentially have more holes open up. And it was. Brian Thomas was the guy that they used last year when they went to 13 personnel almost exclusively. I think it was Brian Thomas and like 90% of the snaps or something like that. So. And all the points that Fitz made about. I'm just down on Parker Washington. I think this is the absolute correct way to look at this. I'm not trying to take anything away from Parker Washington's skill. I think he proved himself last season, but it doesn't really matter. When the team didn't trade Brian Thomas, who I thought was the number one prospect to be traded in the off season or player to be traded in the offseason. I thought it was going to be btj. We obviously knew AJ Brown, but it seemed like he just didn't fit and he would bring a Hall back. They didn't do it. So they obviously are still believing in Brian Thomas Jr. With Travis Hunter there. I mean, it's just. This is the easiest. Too many mouths to feed in this receiver core because when Jacoby Myers came in, he played more snaps than Parker Washington down the stretch too. So Washington is obviously the odd man out. So yeah, I'm. I'm down on him. This was, this was the one I first wanted to put on the sheet again. Fitz got to the sheet before me, so. But it was because of your point, Fitz. You were the one that made the point. So it is appropriate that you have this about the 13 personnel because that is just. It's a beacon telling you that he has to fall.

[Ryan Wormley]

Are you guys interested in investing in Dynasty in any of these guys at cost like Thomas at wide receiver 29, Myers at wide receiver 42. Or is it just across the board like Washington's the one we're highlighting today, but we're kind of down on all of them.

[Fitz Bogman]

No, not interested in any of the pass catchers. And yeah, Worm, you mentioned, you know, if you're going to invest, just invest in Trevor Lawrence. Well, in Redraft. That's easy enough to do, not so much in Dynasty. He's going to be really expensive and

[Scott Bogman]

super flat for sure. Yeah, I think there might be something there to buy on BTJ if whoever's rostering him just doesn't believe anymore after last year. But for the most part, I'm probably out.

[Fitz Bogman]

What there is to buy on BTJ is the hope that he will be somewhere other than Jacksonville pretty soon because I just don't think it's a good place for him.

[Ryan Wormley]

It has to be a buy low if you're going after him. It can't be right. You know, oh, I'm willing to.

[Scott Bogman]

But if that's going to be the case and that if that is your thought process, you have to wait until he plays and fails.

[Ryan Wormley]

You might be able to find a manager who's like, listen, if, if I can sell you on something between 2024 and 2025 seasons for him, then like. And you feel like that's buying load and that's okay. At least I think it's justifiable. But yeah, you can't be buying based on 2024. You have to be. It is a hope that he's getting moved and getting a cost reflective of the season he just had. All right, one more follower here. Bogman, you got a tight end for us?

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, it's Dallas Goddard. He's in a tough spot. Obviously he was very valuable still last season, finishing a tight end seven overall, six in points per game in ppr. But the Eagles just drafted his replacement in Eli Stowers. He's on a void contract after the season and he just turned 31. The only tight ends older than him are Kelsey Kittle, Henry Ingram and Ertz. If he returns from ACL surgery, Ertz is. He said that his that's plan, but we have an aging vet that could still have value for this season. So, you know, maybe we won't be able to get anything for him today because obviously everybody knows Eli Sours is still there, but he's at least a name to think about trading. Specifically if you're not in the window to win in the first few weeks of the season, right? Specifically if AJ Brown is traded, if AJ Brown is gone and now you have Makai Lemon in here and a bunch of new guys with Jalen Hurts and Devontae Smith. I think maybe Dallas Goddard has a good first month, first six weeks, something like that, when Eli Sours is still trying to get on the field and earn his reps. So I just think any way you can get out from Dallas Goddard this season. Last year was probably the year, but any way you can get out from under Dallas Goddard moving forward, I think I'm going to do it. So if I can get a fourth next year, I think I'm okay. Once we get into the season. I think I want a little more than that right now. But I do think Goddard is, you know, the old falling knife as we would say here. As an aging tight end who still has good numbers, do you think if

[Ryan Wormley]

you are a win, if you're a rebuilding team who wants to take a long term view and you're trading with a contender and you're offering them Goddard, do you think you could get one of, you know, not Sours or Sadiq, but one of these other rookies from this year? Because if you look at the rankings like Goddard's tight end 18 in ECR, you know, guys like Delp and Claire are 28 and 29. You know, Terence Ferguson is a few spots below. Obviously not a rookie this year, but like one of these young guys where hey, like it just, you know, Eli Raritan's like tight at 39 in here, right? That, that might go up a little but if you're just taking it long term view, is that a type of trade you'd be interested in? Bogman and you for sure.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, I think. And I think you could even squeeze a pickback, right. Like you give me, you know, Reardon and a fifth. You know what I mean? Reardon and a fourth, whatever. I think you squeeze a pickback for someone in that too. And specifically in tight end premium leagues, it's going to be worth way more in those as well. So you can find yourself some good opportunities in those type of leagues as well. But I think that's a perfect type of trade to do do when it's position for position. It's just go completely young on that position and let somebody take the aging vet that needs him and you take your Shot on whichever one of those younger tight ends that you like. So I think that's the perfect type of deal that you could have for Goddard.

[Ryan Wormley]

Gunner Helm, another young guy who I think is worth a shot. Chica conqueror who I've talked about a lot in this show. He's only one spot below Goddard, so it might be harder to get that one.

[Scott Bogman]

The Maryland guy, if you could.

[Ryan Wormley]

Oh, I. I just had the opportunity in Washington.

[Scott Bogman]

It is. I mean, like said, it's a smorgasbord of nothing outside y Lauren. So. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Wormley]

And he's five years younger, so if you. If you're trying to, you know, instill some youth of the position, he's the type of guy that I think is worth looking at if you can get it done. Fitz, what do you think about Goddard?

[Fitz Bogman]

Feel like I'm under attack here. Since I've got Goddard in three Dynasty leagues, he's one of my most held guys. But the thing is, I. I feel like I'm just going to go down with the ship.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, I think that's appropriate, too.

[Fitz Bogman]

Yeah. I mean, because, like, I'm not expecting him to do anything for me right now. I've got him behind Trey McBride in a league we're in together, weren't. I've got him behind Tyler Warren in another league. So basically, he's the kind of guy who. And if I do have to play him, I least have a decent chance of getting a touchdown out of him in any given week. Because all of a sudden, the Eagles started shifting from the tush push to the Dallas Goddard shovel pass near the goal line. Last year, like, that became one of their favorite things to give Dallas Goddard that little pseudo handoff that was actually a little mini pass and just have him plow it in, like, right over, you know, Jordan Myallotta or Lane Johnson last year. So, like, that's their new goal line play. And what the heck, if I'm going to throw him in there, not counting on him to be a starter full time, but in a bye week, in case of injury, in a pinch at least, no, I'm. I've got a decent chance of getting

[Scott Bogman]

a touchdown out of him.

[Fitz Bogman]

So I think I'm just holding them until the end.

[Scott Bogman]

Fitz, he's got to work on that trade value for his players that I'm trying to knock over here. I'm trying to weaken Fitzy's trade market, apparently in this show today.

[Ryan Wormley]

All right, well, we'll go ahead and wrap things up there. Thanks, everybody, for checking out our Dynasty risers and followers. For Bogman and Fitz, I'm Ryan Wormley. We'll see you again next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast. If you love the show, the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on X Instagram and TikTok Antasypros and subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube.com fantasypros.

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