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Episode: Fantasy Football Takeaways: Fact or Fiction + Week 10 Waiver Wire & Trade Advice | Out of Bounds (Ep. 1817)

Date: November 4, 2025
Hosts: Bogman & Welsh (Joe Pisapia on vacation)

Episode Overview

This episode is a jam-packed, high-energy edition of "Out of Bounds" with hosts Bogman and Welsh holding down the fort while Joe Pisapia is away. They deliver rapid-fire reactions to Week 9 in fantasy football, break down key injuries (with special focus on Jaden Daniels), debate waiver priorities and trade targets for Week 10, and answer listener questions live. The episode features Fact or Fiction debates on hot fantasy topics, runs down league takeaways, and spotlights notable waiver wire pickups as leagues head into their stretch runs.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jaden Daniels Injury Fallout [02:36-06:06]

• Context: The hosts open by discussing Washington’s Jaden Daniels’ gruesome arm injury.
• Long-term Value: Noted that Daniels only dislocated his (non-throwing) arm—no fractures or career-threatening concerns—but he’s done for 2025.
  • Welsh: “You’re not getting anything for him this year. I highly doubt he plays another snap.” [05:06]
• Fantasy Implications: Don’t bother trying to trade him in redraft; his value holds only for dynasty.
• Historical Context: Compared Daniels’ injury risk to RG3; express concern over running QBs and their long-term fantasy viability.
  • Welsh (on Fitz’s warning): “He runs around like a crash test dummy ... every time I see him run, I think about that.” [02:36]

2. Running Back Triage: Who to Cut/Keep? [06:06-07:32]

• Listener asks: Tracy, Vidal, Mason, Walker, Menangai—who’s the cut?
  • Welsh: “Vidal, if I have to cut one... they’re just not giving the ball to Vidal that much at all.” [06:53]
  • Mason, Walker, and Menangai seen as “untouchable for now.”

3. Pickens vs. Adams Debate [07:32-08:01]

• Welsh: “I’m going to say Adams, specifically with Puka being in or out right now. But they're both WR2/WR1 borderline players.”
  • Listener persisted with the question—became a running joke.

4. Brian Thomas Jr. Panic: Bench or Drop? [08:01-09:39]

• BTJ (Brian Thomas Jr.) under scrutiny for underperformance and injury.
  • Bogman: “What are you going to do now in redraft though? ... He’s a bench. ... You’re not dropping or trading him for anything. The only answer is bench him.” [09:39]

Waiver Wire & Emerging Players

1. Colston Loveland Breakout [10:54-12:18]

• Loveland, TE, goes “ballistic” and is lauded as a waiver wire priority.
  • Welsh: “Now they got him involved here. I think this is opening up the bottle. ... He’s a weapon. ... I think it’s just going to skyrocket from here.” [11:12]
• Noted that Loveland’s emergence partly due to injuries elsewhere; usage could stay high.

2. Week 10 Waiver Targets [12:18-12:20]

• Parker Washington (WR), Loveland, and others mentioned as Week 10 pickups.

3. Jacoby Myers & Tony Pollard Trade Talk [12:20-12:58]

• Welsh: “Hopefully they both get traded. I just don’t know how many teams are willing to pay up for Jacoby Myers at this point.”
• Both seen as “lottery ticket” types, but odds are slim for big roles elsewhere.

Survivor Pool & Strategy [13:02-14:37]

• Survivor picks for Week 10:
  • Welsh: “Buffalo is by far and away the best pick. My second favorite would probably be Denver over the Raiders and I hate Denver right now.” [14:33]
  • Bogman: “We’re in Week 10, brother... It’s strategy time to try to save [good teams].” [13:39]
• Other ideas: Seahawks (vs. Cardinals), Panthers (vs. Saints).

Highlights, Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

1. Best Moments of the Week [17:48-19:07]

• Colston Loveland’s TD:
  • “Loveland breaking two horrific, some of the worst tackling attempts I’ve ever seen... to send the Bengals home crying. It was great for fantasy, great for America because the Bengals lost.” – Welsh [17:48]
• Chase Brown Interview:
  • Bogman: “He just starts cursing the rest of the way... it was a total child having a moment.” [18:16]
• Personal Parlay Win:
  • Bogman: Celebrates hitting a big parlay thanks to Kareem Hunt and Brock Bowers. Faces debate whether to “ride” or "cash out" another parlay hinging on CeeDee Lamb’s MNF performance.
    • “Like Nicholas Cage—ride!” [21:29]

Key Fantasy Takeaways [22:14-27:58]

1. Raiders Offense Waking Up

• Bogman: “I think they’ve fixed the offense a little bit. Bowers being back opens everything up. And they finally committed to throwing to Genti (RB) out of the backfield.” [22:14]

2. Kyle Monangai RB Breakout Analysis

• Welsh provides in-depth stats: Most yards after contact among RBs, diversified zone/gap success, projected high volume moving forward due to Swift's injury.
  • “Monangai before contact was solid ... but he averaged the most yards after contact this week of any RB. ... These are things you can carry in and say wow, there are great underlying things.” [24:21]
• Forecasts a 60/40 split with Swift upon return, favoring Monangai. [27:19]

3. Upcoming Matchups

• Bears play the Giants—“Madden on Rookie” difficulty for Monangai owners. [27:24-27:58]

Fact or Fiction Segment [30:03-42:43]

Bravo for lively engagement—listener questions dictate topics.

Sample Debates:

• BTJ is Droppable: Both hosts say fiction, unless it’s a shallow league. “That’s a Titanic pick. You picked him so early. You gotta go down with the ship.” – Welsh [32:53]
• Bowers is a League Winner if Healthy: Both hosts say Fact. [33:22]
• Rashee Rice Outscores Justin Jefferson Rest of Season: Hosts say fiction—but margin is razor thin.
• Pollard Getting Traded Unlocks League-winning Upside: “I hope that’s fiction.” – Welsh [35:42]
• Jacoby Myers as WR1/2 on Another Team?: Both say fiction—no landing spot makes him a clear top-15 WR.
• Monangai vs. Swift ROS Split: Both agree Monangai likely leads 60/40. [39:12]
• Trayvon Henderson vs. Woody Marks ROS: Slight lean toward Henderson.
• Prashard Smith Bust: “Fact.” (He’s not happening this season.) [41:46]
• Debo Reliability Post-Daniels: No longer a reliable WR2. “Fact.” [42:09]

Notable Listener Quote:

• Welsh (about the Pollard trade scenario): “Where is Pollard getting traded where he’s so much better?” [35:43]

Listener Interaction, Community, and Discord [42:46-45:12]

• Encouragement to join FantasyPros Discord & Twitch for real-time Q&A.
• Emphasize community, contests, and additional premium features.

"Three-One-One" Segment (Three bold picks for Week 10) [45:12-47:41]

• Bogman: Justin Herbert (QB), Kyle Monangai (RB), Drake London (WR)
• Welsh: Jared Goff (QB), James Cook (RB), Justin Jefferson (WR)
  • Confident in Goff facing Washington’s depleted defense.
• MNF Parlay Update: CeeDee Lamb’s performance could lock up both a prop win and “three-one-one” sweep for Bogman.

Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Time | |-----------------------------------|-------------| | Jaden Daniels injury | 02:36-06:06 | | RB room Q&A (Tracy, Vidal, etc.) | 06:06-07:32 | | Pickens vs Adams | 07:32-08:01 | | Brian Thomas Jr. fallout | 08:01-09:39 | | Colston Loveland waiver shoutout | 10:54-12:18 | | Survivor pool strategy | 13:02-14:37 | | Big moments of the week | 17:48-19:07 | | Fact or Fiction block | 30:03-42:43 | | Three-one-one segment | 45:12-47:41 |

Notable Quotes (w/ Speaker & Timestamp)

• “He runs around like a crash test dummy ... every time I see him run, I think about that.”
  — Welsh on Daniels [02:36]

• “That’s a Titanic pick. You picked him so early. You gotta go down with the ship in my opinion.”
  — Welsh on Brian Thomas Jr. [32:53]

• “Loveland breaking two horrific, some of the worst tackling attempts I’ve ever seen ... to send the Bengals home crying. It was great for fantasy, great for America because the Bengals lost.”
  — Welsh [17:48]

• “Monangai before contact was solid ... but he averaged the most yards after contact this week of any running back.”
  — Welsh [24:21]

• “Ride. Ride. Yeah. Guess what? Like Nicholas Cage—ride!”
  — Bogman deciding to roll with his CD Lamb parlay [21:29]

Tone & Style

• Conversational, high-tempo, irreverent, full of running inside jokes and playful banter.
• Deep dives paired with offbeat asides and community engagement.
• Lively “kids take over” energy thanks to Joe’s vacation.

Summary

This episode delivers classic Out of Bounds energy as Bogman and Welsh run down all the biggest storylines from Week 9: they dissect gruesome injuries (and their fallout), parse the tricky RB committees du jour, argue the thorniest start/sit conundrums, and provide actionable waiver and trade guidance as we approach the fantasy season’s stretch run. The hosts are bullish on Kyle Monangai as a breakout RB and Colston Loveland as a tight end pickup. Major themes include patience with struggling/injured stars (like Brian Thomas Jr.), prudent survivor pool aggression, and maintaining a spark of fun (from personal betting sweats to Discord shenanigans).

Fact or Fiction is extra robust with close calls on Rashee Rice vs. Justin Jefferson, Jacoby Myers’ value, and the ongoing soap opera in various NFL committee backfields. The episode is an essential listen for anyone trying to squeeze every edge out of their squad in Week 10 and beyond.

For more Q&A and continuous insights, tune in to FantasyPros’ Twitch/Discord and catch the next Out of Bounds episode—where chaos, comedy, and top-shelf fantasy football advice converge.