Fantasy Football Takeaways: Fact or Fiction + Week 8 Waiver Wire & Trade Advice | Out of Bounds (Ep. 1786)

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Episode: Fantasy Football Takeaways: Fact or Fiction + Week 8 Waiver Wire & Trade Advice | Out of Bounds (Ep. 1786)
Date: October 21, 2025
Hosts: Joe Pisapia ("Joey P"), Scott Bogman ("Boggs"), Chris Welsh ("The Welsh")

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into Week 7 NFL games and sets the table for Week 8 of the fantasy football season. The hosts analyze key fantasy situations—especially the impact of injuries and bye weeks—debate waiver wire targets, answer listener questions, and play a spirited round of "Fact or Fiction" about pressing fantasy topics. They bring lively banter, actionable advice, and plenty of humor as they help fantasy footballers navigate a challenging, injury-riddled season.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Quarterback Turmoil: Waiver Priorities & Injury Fallout (03:35–07:24)

• QB Flux: With six quarterbacks on bye and multiple QB injuries, the hosts discuss waiver priorities for desperate managers, especially in superflex leagues.
  • Andy Dalton (likely starting for Panthers due to Bryce Young’s high ankle sprain):
    • Bogman: “40–50% [of remaining FAAB budget]—people are desperate for QBs.” (06:02)
    • Welsh: Prefers Tyrod Taylor if he starts for the Jets—“Old guys with great experience have been great this season. Look at what Joe Flacco just did.” (06:45)
  • Tyrod Taylor (possible Jets starter):
    • “If they make the switch, Taylor is probably the starter for the season.” (06:23–06:33)
  • General Advice: “If you’re desperate, you gotta unload [your FAAB]. How many more opportunities are you really going to have?” – Welsh (07:24)

2. Notable Drop Candidates: Calvin Ridley & Chris Godwin (08:23–09:06)

• Are they droppable?
  • Bogman: Would drop Ridley for Kayshawn Booty but prefers to hold Godwin due to uncertainty about his injury timeline.
  • On Ridley: “It’s tough to drop these guys with six teams on a bye, but if there’s something better out there, sure.” – Joe (08:23)
  • Tennessee situation: "Tennessee looks rough right now. They’re going to have a new head coach next year." – Bogman (08:53)

3. Trade Advice: Ashton Gente & Jaden Daniels (09:06–10:08)

• Listener trade: Chase Brown + Jaden Daniels for Ash Gente (prior to Daniels injury)—“B minus kind of trade… you did upgrade to the best singular player.” – Joe (09:32)
• Welsh: “Gente is the best play here. You did give up a top-four or five round QB and a running back who underperformed.” (10:08)

4. Waiver Wire Gold: The Bears’ Backfield & Rasheen Manngai (10:26–13:20; 11:22–12:50)

• Joe: “Common on Guy [Rasheen Manngai] is our #1 waiver wire pickup of the week… That line was very David Montgomery-esque yesterday.”
• Welsh: “It’s just running backs that are going to eat into each other... Manngai is going to have some value, but it takes away from [D’Andre] Swift. It makes them both irrelevant.” (11:22)
• Bogman: “Waiver wire has been unbelievably barren for RBs this year. If you can get Manngai or Burchard Smith, go spend.” (12:50)

5. Why Is the Waiver Wire So Thin for RBs? (13:20–15:15)

• Bogman: “People grabbed and stashed all the rookies... they’re mostly rostered in Shark leagues.” (13:48)
• Welsh: “Everyone’s holding on to everybody... No one drops anybody.” (13:57)
• Joe: “First six weeks, teams don’t use these guys, and then last eight, they’re league winners.” (14:17)

6. Week 7 & Week 8 Challenges: Bye Week “Hell” & Strategic Moves (15:25–17:12)

• Teams on bye: Cardinals, Lions, Jaguars, Raiders, Rams, Seahawks (15:25)
• Bye week frustration: “That is the face of Week 8 bye weeks—setting your rosters...” – Welsh (15:47)
• Wish from hosts: “Why can’t the NFL just do four teams on bye a week?” – Joe (16:03)

7. Takeaways & Memorable Moments (20:23–29:04)

The Colts Are Legit

• Joe: “The Colts are not just AFC South good; they’re good-good. Jonathan Taylor is arguably the fantasy MVP.” (20:38)

Panthers’ RB Split Nightmare

• Welsh: “It is a split backfield that’s going to be super, super annoying… Both at best low RB2s to high RB3s, and that’s a bummer.” (21:47)

Henderson Hopes & Patriots' Backfield

• Bogman: “The Patriots are giving the backfield to Rhamondre Stevenson and I hate the Patriots. I’m just going down like the Titanic with the ship here, holding [Trey] Henderson.” (24:07)

Concerns About Christian McCaffrey’s Usage

• Bogman: “It’s kind of starting to freak me out that McCaffrey is still carrying the ball so many times... He looks possessed!” (26:06)
• Joe: “He had orthobiologic treatment in Germany.” (27:00)

Andy Reid: Offensive Wizard

• Welsh: “Hat tip to Andy Reid for the innovative play calling. I love they continuously do that stuff.” (27:23)

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Fact or Fiction: Rapid-Fire Fantasy Takes (29:52–39:14)

• Is Saquon Barkley still an RB1?

  • Bogman: “Fiction. He is an RB2 that can be RB1 any week.” (30:16)
  • Welsh: “Fact. He still has monster games left, can finish as RB10 or RB11.” (30:25)

• Travis Hunter vs. Brian Thomas Jr. (BTJ) rest of season:

  • Welsh: “Travis Hunter is becoming more reliable… could be WR3, maybe even WR2 for the rest of the season.” (33:37)
  • Bogman: “If they keep Travis Hunter as just a WR, he’s better than BTJ.” (33:45)

• Justin Fields droppable?

  • ALL: “Fact.” (35:02)

• Should Panthers trade Chuba Hubbard and make Rico the bell cow?

  • All: “Fact—they should, but fiction because it won’t happen.” (35:30)

• Panthers a playoff contender?

  • All: “Fiction.” (35:42)

• Ricky Pearsall relevant ROS?

  • Bogman & Welsh: Uncertain, leaning “fiction.” (36:52)

• Bears a good bet to win NFC North?

  • ALL: “Fiction.” (37:31)

• CMC a top-three RB if healthy in fantasy playoffs?

  • ALL: “Fact.” (37:55)

• Giants’ rookie QB is the next franchise guy—for the next Giants coach?

  • Joe & Bogman: “Fact. Hard fact.” (38:31)

• DJ Moore: Drop for Booty or Franklin?

  • Joe: “For Booty, yes, but probably in the minority.” (39:14)

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Listener Q&A (Throughout)

• How much FAAB on QBs?
• Who to drop for rising RB/WR waiver adds?
• Streaming QB options for Week 8?
• Would you trade Nico Collins for CMC?
• Is Manngai worth burning waiver #1?

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Notable Quotes & Fun Moments

• “Old guys with great experience have been great this season. Look at what Joe Flacco just did.” – Welsh (06:45)
• “Calvin Ridley, son, nothing.” – Bogman (08:23)
• “The waiver wire has been unbelievably barren for running backs this year.” – Bogman (12:50)
• “The Colts are not just AFC South good, they’re good-good.” – Joe (20:38)
• “It is a split backfield that’s going to be super, super annoying.” – Welsh on the Panthers (21:47)
• “McCaffrey looks possessed. He might be Clark Kent.” – Bogman (26:06)
• “Why aren’t we funding this?” – Joe on orthobiologic treatments (27:17)
• “[Andy Reid’s] innovativeness… pushes boundaries. I love that they continuously do that stuff.” – Welsh (27:23)
• “Justin Fields? Drop him. Stinks.” – Joe (19:54)
• “If you’re desperate, you need to unload your FAAB. How many more opportunities are you really going to have?” – Welsh (07:24)

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Key Timestamps

• 03:35–07:24: QB injury/waiver wire/FAAB debate
• 08:23–09:06: Ridley, Godwin droppability
• 10:26–12:50: Bears backfield—Manngai as top waiver add
• 13:20–15:15: Thin RB waiver wire—why?
• 20:23–21:35: Colts are real contenders
• 21:47–23:51: Panthers' RB split—the fantasy headache
• 29:52–39:14: Fast-paced “Fact or Fiction” segment

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, lively, self-deprecating.
• The hosts riff off each other easily, keep things light with jokes/memes (“heyo”, “bruh”), and aren’t afraid to admit their misses (“we’re accountability buddies here”), while delivering strong, actionable fantasy football takes throughout.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

If you missed this episode, you got analysis of every major fantasy-relevant storyline heading into Week 8—especially regarding QBs, the drought at RB on waivers, bye week challenges, and key pickup/drop moves. The highlight was a robust “Fact or Fiction” segment that tackled hot-button rest-of-season questions with no-nonsense takes and plenty of laughs. The collective advice: be aggressive on waivers, look for creative solutions to cover byes, don’t be sentimental with underperforming former stars, and be ready for the chaos that mid-season NFL injuries and schedule oddities bring.

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For those navigating fantasy through Week 8’s landmines, this episode is a must for actionable advice and a dose of comic relief.

Transcript

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[B]

Yeah, they just. They're just like, nope. They said before the game, I think it was, KD had mentioned it, that Shanahan went to them and said, fellas, it's going to be a McCaffrey game. And then the explanation came out what a McCaffrey game is. And that is nothing but running the ball. And that is all that they did. It was Nothing but Christian McCaffrey, Brian Robinson, and then of course, the. That was the game where Mac Jones was like, Kendrick Bourne who? And just Juwan Jennings. But, yeah, unfortunately, Debro was right. I respectfully, during the week was like, I don't care what DBRO says about George Kittle. I don't think it was so much about the coverage in that it was that the 49ers just decided we're going to run, we're going to do it successfully. And Christian McCaffrey continues to do his thing.

[A]

Yeah, he does. Also, New York Giants got real close to another upset box this week. It was fun. As the questions are flowing in again, drop all your questions in here. We're gonna do questions with asses in just a second here. But Boggs, it's tough because I still think if you're a Giants fan, you still feel pretty good about the fact that your rookie quarterback just went to Denver with one of the best defenses in the league and probably should have won that football game. Brian Dabel. I mean, what an awful bit of clock management there in that game about understanding the situation, the scenario and when to not give the ball back. Not to mention a couple missed point after attempts as well. So did the. I don't want, I don't want to just completely like say oh, it's a bad job there. I want to give some credit to the Bonix and the Denver Broncos too. That's an epic. You have to them, you have to.

[C]

Have credit to both questions.

[A]

Did they lose the game or did the Broncos win the game or was it.

[C]

They lost it. Teams that were, I saw this stat this morning and I apologize. I should have saved it. I don't have it on me. But the teams up 18 points with six or less than seven minutes or whatever were 10, 27 and oh before yesterday. So yeah, the Giants choked that game away. Like that was a complete and whole meltdown from the Giants. And I mean you come all the way back and then shank the extra point. I think you have to lose the kicker.

[A]

Like you just got to. Yeah, you absolutely have to. There. All right, so we're going to talk about everything that went down in week seven. Look ahead to week eight. We're going to take your questions just a second. Before we do, we got new giveaways. This one is Ashton Gentee. Oh baby. Let's go. Pristine auctions giving away this bad boy. Check it out. The Genti jersey signed by Ashton Genti himself. Subscribers here on Our Twitch get 1 1/2 times odds boost of winning this giveaway. So subscribe with your Amazon prime account whenever AWS is back up and running. And you'll get rid of those nasty commercials while you're watching us here on twitch just for five bucks. And of course if you're watching on our YouTube channel, go to our Twitch. Go sign up there, subscribe that way you can get in on this jersey giveaway as well. Gonna be good times there. Let's start here with our good pal Dredis talking about a lot of quarterbacks in flux. Not only do we have six QBs on a buy next week, but we've got QB injuries to talk about, possible QB benches to talk about. What kind of fab are we spending on Andy Dalton? Fellas Welsh, we're going to be missing Bryce Young here it looks like for high ankle sprain. So it's a couple weeks. You know, the high ankle is going to be a couple weeks so Andy Dalton was going to take over. So how much fab are you spending on him in a super flex right now?

[B]

$50 cents. Oh, that's fine. I mean. No, I'm joking, I'm joking. Yeah, that's fine. I mean there are some weapons be had. By the way we talk about George Kittle, what the hell happened to Jalen Coker who's supposed to be involved in everything? Yeah, I think, I mean Dalton is in that Carson Wentz like game management vibe type of guy. Leggette really got involved. Leggette was top five, I think in first read percentage this week because Tet was kind of just, you know, bogged down by really good cornerback play play and then you got the running backs. So it's actually like a decent offense that surrounded him, I would say. I mean if you were desperate, if you didn't already have three, I mean, would you. Do you have to unload the clip? I mean this is a starting quarterback for a high ankle sprain. Could be more than a month about.

[A]

This schedule here because we've got the next six weeks before the buy. They have a late buy by the way. The Panthers, week 14, they've got Buffalo, Green Bay, New Orleans, Atlanta, San Fran and Los Angeles Ramsay. So not the easiest schedule either of some of these defenses. So I do think desperate times call for desperate measures. But Boggs, we're living in a world too where we could end up seeing a change for the Vegas Raiders. We don't know if Kyler Murray comes back from the buy and is is healthy again. We're not sure. So a lot of QB flux right now. So how do you approach Andy Dalton say versus potentially a Tyrod Taylor who could be the starter for the jets next week against the Cincinnati Bengals.

[B]

Yeah, 40%, by the way, that's my number. 40%.

[C]

Yeah, I go 40 to 50% somewhere in that neighborhood because you probably don't have that much fab anyway. Left at this point, right? So you probably don't have a ton. So probably take half of whatever you have left to get him in a super flex because people are so desperate for quarterbacks. But I'd rather have tyrod. I do. If they, if they make the switch, it's going to be Taylor probably for the season, right?

[B]

What happened there? What happened?

[C]

If they make the actual switch? If they do.

[A]

No, no, no.

[C]

If they make the switch, sorry, turn me into this guy.

[B]

Joe went. Joe went gente and you went switch.

[C]

If they're moving and switching this gentile around here, okay, you're going to want to take quarterbacks.

[B]

Listen, careful.

[C]

Andy Dalton is an old guy with great experience, right? Like this season has been great for old guys with a lot of experience. Look at what Joe Flacco just did. You know, I think he has a good receiving core here as well. He has more of. I think he has more patience than Young. Obviously hasn't been chased around for his entire career like Young has. So I think this is a good move for the Panthers. For Andy Dalton's come in here and play a couple of these games. It's not ideal. You know, you want to get your young guy more experience and all of that, but I think, I think he can be okay. So I'm okay with registering Dalton, but I would prefer Taylor if he's going to start.

[B]

And if you're desperate, though, like, we don't need to talk about percentages. You got to, you got to unload because, like, how many more opportunities are you really going to have?

[A]

Look, I do think Kenny Pickett will be there next week. I think Tyra Taylor will be there next week. So I think there's backup options. I, I mean, I don't want to go crazy on Andy Dalton. And look, Bryce Young's a quarterback, not a running back or wide receiver. So I think it's a little different. Even the high ankle, I think it's more like, you know, a couple weeks here as opposed to six necessarily. For him, however, wasn't the high ankle, which wouldn't love had last year and we saw how difficult it was for him to come back on that, so he didn't affect him the rest of the year. So my answer is you need a better long term solution. Lee. Is that is it time to drop Calvin Ridley or Chris Godwin Boggs? I don't know if we're going to get much out of either of these guys. I wonder if Calvin Ridley gets dealt next week. Is the trade deadline coming up? That's the only thing I could think about. He's got to be healthy enough to get dealt. But I'm. Here's the thing. It's like, it's tough to drop these guys this week with six teams on a buy. And I just. I mean, if there's something better out there, sure. I just don't know what that is at this point. Kayshawn Booty, would you drop one of these guys for K Shawn Booty?

[C]

I would drop Ridley for him. I think I want to keep Godwin to see how long he's going to be out with this injury. But Calvin Ridley, son, nothing. I'm with you. I do think that he would hold more value if he was to get traded because whatever it is in Tennessee just ain't working. It's not. Not Calvin Ridley necessarily. Cam Ward looks miserable right now and I thought Cam Ward was going to be great. So hand up, I was mistaken. He's looked awful so far this year and the schedule has not done him any favors either. So.

[A]

Either is the coaching staff.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, the whole. The whole situation. Tennessee looks rough right now, so they're going to have a new head coach next year and things are going to get adjusted. But I think you're seeing the wind come out of their sails right now and enthusiasm for the season is rough in Tennessee right now.

[A]

You know, Welsh, we didn't even talk about it. Like, Jaden Daniels, dude going for an MRI taste. Another qb. Here's one from Axel. Hi Pros traded Chase Brown and Jaden Daniels for Gen T prior to the injury. Well, it looks pretty good right now. I mean, you're gonna. I mean, Daniels, I don't know how long he's going to be out potentially with the hamstring issue, I think it might have been a slight overpay. But I would say this right now. Currently structured from the injury, it feels like a B minus kind of trade to me.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's fine. I mean, Chase Brown has kind of revived with. With Joe Flacco and then being able to pass the ball. I'd also say, like, it looks a little bad right now because the Raiders were like, all right, guys, game plan for this week. I know Genty has had the third most rush attempts and he's one of the best running backs over the last two or three weeks. Let's not get him the ball and let's pivot. Let's pivot and let's give everybody else. But we're out our playmakers. There's no bowers or Myers but guess what Master game plan Trey Tucker Besh no Gente so I don't know why they didn't involve him. I don't even care if you're down a little bit you've got to get genty run get.

[A]

It's the only thing they've got right.

[B]

Now so all of that to be said like genty I think is the best play here. You did get rid of Daniels which looks a little bit better for you right now. Hindsight maybe that wasn't like the best best trade but you did upgrade to the best singular player. You just gave up like a top four or five round quarterback and a running back who had underperformed shout out.

[A]

To Khaki who just subbed Satonics who just subbed We've got AJ Pax there two community subs giving out in Tito cheering some bits here for a question cheer 30 from him any concerns here with Rome that the offense now we think is just game situation the last two weeks. I want to talk about the Bears and what we saw because Common on guy is our number one waiver wire pickup of the week. He's a guy that I've been stashing everywhere and all I've been waiting for is for him to become the David Montgomery in this offense. That's all I want and that line was very David Montgomery esque yesterday I thought it would happen after the bye week. It did not. I waited an extra week. I'm a non guy. We got it here. The question is does it continue? So let's talk about that Bears offense. Welsh, what'd you think of how Caleb played? What'd you think of the way the backfield was used here? Are we seeing the non guy now starting to get poised into that role where the you know the passing down where it goes to DeAndre Swift and guys the guy at the goal line and maybe between the tackles a little bit more.

[B]

Yeah this is another situation which I think is going to kind of stink at the end of the day. Like it's just running backs that are going to eat into each other. It's similar. We'll talk about the Panthers situation in a little bit but this is another one of those where like Manangai is going to have like some inherent value but it takes away from Swift. You know my problem with the offense is I just don't feel like they understand or know who they are and who Caleb wants to be like all right if you know you're going to run then let's like do it. Let's be efficient and do great play calling. If you want to sling the ball because you've got all these, you know, great receiving options, do that. What do you have 26 pass attempts Caleb? Like I really just don't know if there's a lot of trust across the offense but as fun as it is to talk about Manangai and you could be like oh I you know I told you pick him up. It's like okay, well they're just going to eat into each other. It's like what Swift's going to have 14 touches and guy is going to have 11 or 12 touches. It makes them both irrelevant. So I just don't love it. I would love for you know him to take over a full on role but it's just going to be more bye week hell maybe full flex like Mananga is like a flex option if you're in some bi week startable.

[A]

He's I think he's RB2 this week with six teams on a buy. Yeah I don't think that's a hot take right. The bible is one of the bible.

[B]

What are our teams? Do we know what do I what's.

[A]

Our bipocolate know of our teams here? I will give it to you in just a sec. Bog, tell me about your take on the Bears offense which you saw yesterday too and whether or not Mananga is a guy that you want to really go after and waiver wire hard necessarily. Look it's double the amount of carries he had in any other game. Any other touchdown in that game too.

[C]

I don't. Yeah and it was against New Orleans Joe so we can, you know just throw, throw that on top as well. Right. Like they were up big late in this game but I don't care. The waiver wire has been unbelievably barren for running backs this year. If you can go get Manangai and go get Burchard Smith right now, go spend on them because who knows if there's going to be anybody available for you to pick up next week and there has been nothing for like three straight weeks at running back. So yeah, go get these guys right now if they're available.

[A]

I asked this question off air of Debro and Fitzy after the show we just did earlier today which was do you think the waiver wires has been bare this week because the rookie class was was so great at running back and everybody was in on them and drafted them as opposed to most years these things kind of slipped through the cracks but this year was a very hyped rookie class. Bogs, I know you're the dynasty podcast host around here. Does it maybe just like everybody was on the rookies so much this year because everyone's doing a better job. That. That kind of killed the waiver wire in 2025 for sure.

[C]

Yeah, I think that's a massive part of it is people grabbed and stashed. And some of these guys, even the.

[A]

Receivers, the AO Manners, the Hortons, like every. Like these guys are mostly rostered in the Shark leagues.

[B]

You know, let me throw it. Let me throw another caveat into that is that everybody in their mother sits and tells you about how, hey, listen, you should draft these players, but then out of their side of their mouth go, but they might not, you know, work out for the first five weeks, but then they're going to work out. So then no one drops anybody. And everybody's holding on to everybody. So everybody.

[A]

I mean, I know my mom said that to me. She told me that specifically. But that has been the case and I think the trend the last couple years in the NFL where you see that, right? You see these teams not using these guys in the first six weeks of the season, and then all of a sudden, the last eight weeks of the season, these guys are league winners. You saw the Jameer Gibbs path. You've seen, you know, even David Montgomery's rookie year, Deandre Swift's rookie year.

[C]

Specifically running backs.

[A]

Joe, if you are specifically backs. Yeah.

[C]

If are not good enough to protect the quarterback in pass blocking, you are not allowed on the field. That. That just happens a lot of the time. I feel like we're getting some. That with DJ Giddens in Indianapolis right now, where it was he. He was the guy. But what I'm saying is, like, Abdullah has moved past Giddens, and so your handcuff might be Amir Abdullah instead of Giddens. Should something happen to jt we just don't know because they're splitting those guys right now. That's what Trayvon Henderson has not seen the field very much. He is a good coaching being ridiculous. That. That's why.

[A]

Thank you. Because all I heard all off season was. And the thing we like most about Trayvon Henderson is the pass blocking. And you know what? I'd like to see him out there doing some of it. I'd like to just see him out.

[C]

On the field more.

[A]

Nah, let's give teams Roger Stevenson 5,000 times. All right. Cardinals, Lions, Jags, Raiders, Rams and Seahawks are all on by. So we're Missing some significant players in fantasy here, that is.

[B]

Actually, Joe, did you did get to see the. The new meme we created? Have we done a show since?

[C]

I don't think he's seen it yet.

[A]

All right, so is this the one with your face? The way your face. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Can we put that up real quick? I want to get your reaction. That is the face. That is the face of week six by weeks, which I still don't know what was wrong with me here, but that is the face where you are setting your rosters in. I'm sorry, not week six. What is this? It's gonna be week eight. Week eight by weeks. That's the face right there, bro. Yeah.

[A]

Well, I just don't understand. And Jake and I talked about this in the first. My face. No. Wow. We talked about that, too, slightly. So everyone go watch that show on YouTube. But we also talked about why can't the NFL just do four teams a week for a certain amount of weeks? Like, because the math seems pretty easy. Seems pretty easy.

[C]

Why can't they do Thursday Night Football only after bi weeks, Joe?

[A]

I don't know, Bogman. I just don't know. All right, we want everybody to drop their fact or fiction questions, too, for fact or fiction. So right now, if you're watching the show, give us your fact or fiction questions. We will answer them. Stay with us here on the program. Let's get another question up here, too. Oh, that's a factor. Friction. I want to keep that one. That's a good one right here. Let's see. Let's spin the wheel. Sh. Here's a trade. Stud. As a trade, would you trade Nico and Scatter for CMC Boggs, would you do that deal, man?

[C]

I don't think I can. Do you know how many touches, which side? I don't think I can trade for cmc. I mean, he's so amazing, but do you know how many touches he has, Joe?

[A]

7,082.

[C]

I mean, realistically, it's the most.

[A]

I know he.

[C]

By how many Welsh he leads.

[B]

I think it's by like 40.

[C]

It's 31.

[A]

31. Okay.

[C]

It's 185 touches this year.

[A]

It's scary.

[C]

Jonathan Taylor is second behind him with 154. So I don't. I honestly, I don't think that Welsh's meme is a meme. I think it was a warning. I think he was sent here to destroy us all. Christian McCaffrey. And I'm actually kind of creeped out by him. I think He's a witch, so he might be.

[B]

But.

[C]

But I just don't think he can realistically make it through this year with this amount of touches. But maybe everyone should just go to wherever he was last year and take whatever it was he took to fix his account.

[A]

That's a good idea.

[C]

Let's get a road trip. Amazing.

[A]

I can we get FP to sponsor that road trip for us? I think that'd be fun.

[B]

Oh, we could do a movie. Remember? Like old road trip movie. I don't do any of those anymore.

[A]

Like that kind of thing. Yeah.

[B]

Or road trip. The actual road trip.

[A]

We all come back. Never mind. Scotty doesn't know. Is that.

[C]

What's your trip?

[B]

Careful.

[A]

Yep, yep, yep, yep. That's also Fred Armisen in the. In the train. Right? Scoozy baby.

[C]

This evening. Great movie.

[A]

Euro trip.

[B]

Wait, Road trip or Euro? Which would you pick?

[C]

I would pick Euro trip.

[B]

I think Euro trip is elite.

[C]

Matt Damon singing. Scotty doesn't know.

[A]

He doesn't know. Is the is the whole thing that.

[C]

Happens in the first like five minutes.

[A]

Yeah. Drop Justice Fields for Sam Darnold or Flacco. I want Flacco against the jets this week and Darnold's off next week. So Darnold.

[B]

Important thing is Fields is very droppable for streaming quarterbacks. He's not someone you need to hold.

[A]

On and I will take the big fat L. I defended Justin Fields on the show last week and we are accountability buddies here on the program. So we're not right about everything. We are right about a lot of things. And I can tell you because I want a lot of money this week on the betting pro show. Bonds will tell you that too. Including the last minute bet that I even logged of the Cardinals covering. After I heard that the Green Bay packers were going to be on a tarmac for six and a half hours waiting. I was like oh, you know what? And I'm dumb because I should have bet the Cardinals to win the first half of that game too instead of just the money line as well. But it's all right. Sometimes you just get terrible.

[C]

Packers playing didn't work this week.

[A]

I'd be real sure would be a problem if that Packer plane wasn't working there. But Justin Fields, I tried to defend him last week. I thought he would bounce back. It was awful. But you know what? Even more awful was the decision to take him out of that game because it proves nothing. It does nothing. Except that Aaron Glenn has lost control of everything and he is terrified about his job now, because it's not like putting Tyrod Taylor in that game was going to get any better. It didn't. It didn't get any better. It was still miserable. I mean, he was slightly less. More, less miserable than Justin Fields, but not by much. And look, no Garrett Wilson that game. They don't have a lot of weapons. Like, what do you want him to do at a certain point, like, what do you expect of. Of this offense? I don't know. Whatever. Field stinks drops him.

[B]

Not good.

[A]

Drop them.

[B]

Stinks. Can't win with them.

[A]

Can't win. Can't win with them. All right, so drop your fact and fictions, everybody. We're gonna get to them in about five minutes here. So we want to load them all up here. Drop them all here on our Twitch Again, subscribe to the Twitch here. Let's do some takeaways here. Here's my first takeaway for the week, and I waited this week. I let you guys put your takeaways and moments in because everyone complains that I'm first in the sheet because I make the sheet. So I didn't do it this week. So you complain. You're like, you already got there. So I didn't get.

[B]

No, no, no. I complain when you do what we wrote down in the show and then you come back, you're like, all right, what's your takeaway?

[A]

The people want that, though. They just. I can't help it if you're the voice of the people and you just know what the people want.

[B]

This is true. This is actually true.

[A]

My takeaway from Week 7 was the Colts are not just AFC south good, they're good. Good. They're actually good. And I won money on them this week, too. And on the betting pro shows, Boggs will tell you I flat out told everybody that line is wrong. It is wrong. They should not be underdogs in this game. They should be favored. And they went out there and they whooped on the Chargers. And the Chargers have issues, offensive line issues. I know they just got Khalil Mack back, all that stuff. They've been missing guys in the running back room. But I'm telling you right now, the Colts are super dangerous. Jonathan Taylor has been arguably, what, fantasy MVP Welsh. What do we talk about on Friday? My bonus bet was Jonathan Taylor, right? Two touchdowns at 3 to 1. Well, he got three, so I wish I would have bet that instead. That would have been even better. But the Colts are that good, and I think everybody needs to watch out because I still don't think they're on everybody's radar and they're going to get in the playoffs and they're going to beat a team that they, quote unquote, shouldn't beat. And it's going to be really interesting to watch.

[B]

Do you know anybody that thought the Colts are going to make the playoffs in the preseason?

[C]

Well, pick them to win the division over Houston.

[B]

No big deal. No big deal.

[A]

There you go. Well, so who is your, what's your takeaway for this week in the NFL?

[B]

The Panthers are who we thought they were. At least in the running back situation. It's going to be as annoying as possible because I think this entire week was like people taking sides. I know it was DBRO going full, going full Rico. You got people saying track the money. With Chuba I went full Rico too. I kind of get off of it. I kind of kept. I don't think they should, by the way. I kept sitting here going, this is what's going to happen. It's going to be a split. It's going to be annoying and it's going to take away. And that is exactly what happened. These guys, it was 17 Russia, which by the way, 17 is like that's doable here. But 14 rush attempts for Chuba, I don't think, you know, this team is going to be able to stomach that many carries. But you know what? Anti Dalton has taken over the offense. They're a little bit more efficient. They want to slow the ball down. There is a legit possibility that these, they might be able to push 15 plus carries each. But the main takeaway here, because I know there's a lot of Rico questions out there of what do you do? I think for the super negative Nancy's, he got more run than you expected. But the guys that wanted to be this is Rico's team now you're wrong. It is a split backfield that's going to be super, super annoying. These guys there's they split series by the way, I had a first touchdown on Rico. I hit a, I did a little, little stupid parlay. I hit the Rasheed Rice first touchdown and then I had Rico and they were driving down. They couldn't do anything. And then the next series when there wasn't a touchdown, Chuba was in. So they were just splitting series in here. So unfortunately it's the worst case scenario there. They look like a better version of the Seahawks, these two backs here, but they are in a full split mode. So instead of one being close to RB1 or high in RB2, they're both going to be at best low RB2s to high RB3s, and that kind of is a bummer. Now, things could change, but that is the first week that we've had them both together after Rico went ballistic. But again, I do believe this should be Rico. He looks better. He's more efficient. He averaged over four, almost four and a half yards per carry while chuba was around 2. So this change should happen. It just doesn't look like it is going to be anytime soon.

[A]

There's some really good factor fiction questions. I can't wait to get to this. So keep dropping them, everybody. And there's one really provocative one I'm going to start with. So keep going. Keep dropping the factor fictions. We're going to play that in a second. Boggs, what was your big takeaway from Week seven? I know it's still going. I've got two games tonight. But we're, we all know I'm not staying awake for the second one.

[C]

The Patriots are giving the backfield to Ramon Dre Stevenson and I hate the Patriots. That is my takeaway for this, this week. And listen, I'm just going to go down like the Titanic with the ship here. I'm, I'm holding Henderson in my leagues.

[A]

I'm not good for you.

[C]

I'm not suggesting people do it. I think you should cut him. I think you should cut him. I think if Manangai is available, if Rashard Smith is available, you should go take those guys. I am being stubborn and dumb with my rosters where I'm, you know the.

[B]

Term like holding the bag, like that's the Henderson thing right now. Like everybody's doing what I said earlier. Everyone's being like, oh, they're going to be great later.

[A]

It takes one injury or another fumble in a big spot that loses the game. Like there are outs for him.

[B]

But what's the difference between Brian Robinson and Trayvon Henderson right now?

[C]

There's not a lot.

[A]

Here's the difference.

[C]

Hold on. Here's the difference. The difference is that Trey Henderson is way better than Ramon Dre Stevenson is.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Like, I don't think that's very arguable. It is right now just in production. Right. But I think as skill positions, Brian Robinson, no one is really in Christian McCaffrey's neighborhood. I think Henderson, if given the opportunity, is better than Stevenson. He's just not given the opportunity right now. So I, and I think a fumble, more than an injury could get Henderson on the field. So because how many more?

[B]

We've had seven of those.

[C]

One more. Two more. I mean six. Just wait around for it. It's gonna happen.

[A]

I told you, it's basketball. I swear to God, you guys rip on me like 20 or 30 more times and I'm out of here. Yeah, it's 20 or 30 more times. So we got a basketball reference and a, and a euro trip reference here in the same show.

[C]

And I've had to shut my mouth twice today, so.

[A]

That's right, but you've been very good about it. But I'm the one that gets in trouble. I'm the. I'm the bad seed.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

I'm the bad boy. Boggs, what's your. What's your moment of the week too, while the bad boy sits here and hangs out?

[C]

Yeah, I don't. I mean, it's kind of starting to freak me out that Christian McCaffrey is still carrying the ball so many times. Like, I honestly think whatever his treatment was, we need to get it over here for every single NFL player. Because, you know, they said bilateral Achilles tendonitis and he looks slow. Last year he did not look like the regular Christian McCaffrey that we're used to seeing. And this year he on. He looks possessed. He look, he ran. He turned his back and pushed his, you know, injured Achilles heels into the ground and ran through two 400 pound defensive linemen last night. He might be Clark Kent. Like he just looks absurd to me right now. And it's starting to kind of creep me out, I don't think. I think Welsh is warning us he's an actual real witch. It's not even a joke anymore.

[A]

And he has an ortho biologic, so that's what he had.

[C]

Is that your.

[A]

Involves injecting the patient's own platelets into the injured area to promote healing. McCaffrey traveled to Germany because such orthobiological treatments are not yet approved by the fda. Stem cells not approved by the fda. So get it done.

[C]

I mean, why are.

[A]

This is the Peter Griffin. Why aren't we funding this? You know, the show's over. I'm going there. Welsh, what was your moment of the week?

[B]

He's the scarlet and gold witch. My moment has to be the play calling of Andy Reid. You got to just hat tip to him and the innovativeness of the offense to just push boundary.

[A]

Are you talking about that one where the broadcast. We can't tell you about it.

[B]

It is the four. It's a fourth down, Mahomes behind The center, they get up with about 10 seconds left. And I'm not going to say the exact words because it went over the broadcast.

[A]

I'd like you to say it.

[B]

But he's like, this never works. And he puts his hands up, everyone goes. And then he comes down. Bam. They run the play. And they faked the fake. It was the stupid, like, we're going to get you guys to jump off sides thing. And he comes, his hands are up, and he's like, this never works. And then they run the play and they get the first down. I love that they continuously do that stuff.

[A]

Awesome. And I. I'll be honest with you, it feels a little bit more like Andy Reid got more involved this year. I'm gonna stake my. My life on that one.

[B]

Someone say steak?

[A]

Well, because I don't think that Matt Nagy is smart enough to create these kind of things. Just putting that out there. So. Just saying.

[B]

What was the steak? What was the steak? That was a comedy bit, right? Yeah, I was.

[A]

Do speak. That's three. My big moment was actually, it came in the loss now, but it was the Theo Johnson touchdown catch that was just off of Wandell. Robinson goes up in the air. Theo Johnson's crossing across the field, catches it and runs for a touch. It was w. It felt like, oh, my God.

[C]

Doesn't that feel like a play that just happens to a team?

[A]

Giants fan, Bogs, you're looking at Giants fans like, well, do I still feel better than I did three weeks ago watching Russell Wilson play quarterback? And the answer's got to be, yeah, I feel great. You know, it's just very frustrating to watch that. But that. That moment, nobody thought they were going.

[C]

To put up 32 points or whatever on the Broncos, right?

[A]

We had family over from Florida. We. I set up the TV outside with red zone. We had the games on outside. Leaves were falling watching football, and it got dark for that part of the game, and it was great. We're watching this thing, and I was watching it with, of course, a couple Giants fans because I live in New Jersey and they were loving life and then besides himself, not too long after that. So it was a lot of emotions in the last half hour of that game. All right, let's play a little fact or fiction, and we're gonna kick things off with a doozy here. This is from Crystal Seasons here. Factor fiction. Saquon Barkley is still a reliable RV one the rest of season without looking. Where is Sanquan Barkley ranked in terms of rushing this year? What number Saquon.

[B]

24. Genteel. I'm gonna say 17. It's probably lower.

[A]

Yeah. He is ranked rushing 22nd. So you're right. Right in the middle between you guys. 369 rushing yards. He ranks 22nd. He's behind Jacori Krosky Merit, but ahead of Kenneth Walker. That's where he is right now. Fiction.

[C]

He is an RB2 that has the potential to be the RB1 at any point this season.

[A]

So fiction. He's not a reliable RB one anymore. Okay.

[B]

Say fact. I think he still is. You know what's going to happen? Just letting you guys all know, now that the Eagles learned how to pass the ball, they are going to create some separation. It's the same idea of like run the ball early so you can set up play action. That they're actually showing teams that they can get the ball deep in the air. AJ Brown can still beat them. Yeah, they're going to set up the run a little bit better. Like Saquon is going to. He's still got a couple monster games in now. Is he reliable? Like top two running back in the league? Maybe not. This offense is still weird, but he's massively talented. They still got the offensive line. Like, could he be RB 10 or 11 by the end of the year? Absolutely. And now that they're passing the ball, I think it opens up. So I'm going to say that is a fact.

[A]

Want to guess from Montre Stevenson's yards per carry this year?

[B]

Well, I mean, Seth was crashing out in the chat. Yeah, 7,000 Trey Travion Henderson versus Ramandre Stevenson stats in here. It's not good.

[A]

It's 3.6. That's what it is. Three points.

[B]

We're like talking about other subjects and Seth is just like we obviously.

[A]

Obviously. Seth has a couple Trayvon Henderson chairs of his own.

[B]

Someone's got a couple. He's just like doing stat after stats.

[A]

Scott Bogman riding this one out to the darkness. Let's go to Lee's question factor. Fiction. Travis Hunter is more reliable coming out of the buy than btj. He had his first touchdown bogs in a game where they got the crappy out of them by the Los Angeles Rams. And now BTJ is hurt and we don't have Travis Hunter next week and he was exclusively wide receiver in this game. So do you think Travis Hunter is the guy over BTJ rest of season in that offense?

[C]

I mean, I could easily see it. I would say that both these guys are kind of going to be I think this is going to be just like we were talking about the Carolina running back situation, the Seattle running back situation, where it's just going to be between them probably moving forward, but really the offensive line has to get it fixed. What were they sacked seven times against the Rams? I mean, Trevor Lawrence has got to get rid of the ball. This was out of necessity that Travis Hunter had.

[A]

I'm saying fiction on this one, personally.

[C]

Yeah, I think fiction as well. But I do think this is going to be annoying. And I think Travis hunter, Brian Thomas Jr. Are eerily close in value right now.

[B]

Yeah, I'm going to say I think this is closer to fact. They. They said like we get the coach speak stuff where they're like we want to do this and then we're like, okay, lol. They said like we want to get Travis Hunter the ball more. It's exactly what they did. Travis Hunter had the 8th highest first read percentage of any wide receiver this week. Almost 40% first read. I don't think that that's going to stop. He's been more reliable offensively than defensively. You're getting like, you know, whatever version of coverages they're actually putting on the Jaguars that are going to kind of hone down on Brian Thomas and they play Travis Hunter, they'll move them, play them out of the slot as well. So I think like Travis Hunter is becoming more reliable and I think this was a first early sign of what he's going to be moving forward. Now. Will he be better than Brian Thomas rest of season? I don't know. I think Travis Hunter being more of a piece is going to help Brian Thomas find some more open coverage. But I do think the first part. Is he going to be more reliable? Yes. I think Travis Hunter can be wide receiver three, maybe wide receiver two for the rest of the season. I think they're going to just double down on that after the buy.

[C]

If they keep Travis Hunter as just a wide receiver, he's better than Brian Thomas Jr. That, that's just to me is a fact.

[B]

You really think the defensive stuff is taking away from him or you mean because he's not getting the snapshot?

[C]

Well, I think it's not just the defensive plays on the field. It's the practice, it's the meetings. It's all of that stuff I think is taking away from his development on the, the offensive side. And your rookie season, you take one of your bigger leaps in your career. Really, it's from that rookie to that second season. But I think you're missing a lot of instruction by going through defeat defensive meetings and all that stuff as well. So it's not going into the draft.

[A]

That he would have been the like let's say that you were drafting him just as a wide receiver. If they had to do it again, you think they still would have taken Travis Hunter or they should have taken a Mecha. Ibuka.

[C]

I mean the guy won the Heisman. He's a credible athlete. And I think I'd rather still have Travis Hunter, but it doesn't mean it's going to work out perfectly. Mecca Ibuca looks amazing. Tet looks amazing. These are really, really good wide receivers. I just think if you put Travis Hunter on one side of the ball, you'll see more of his skill pop out. It's just he's so good. They're using him on both sides.

[A]

I'm concerned about Tet though, especially, you know, not the Dalton and he'll get.

[C]

The ball to him though.

[A]

I don't know man. Like I. I just feel like until they get a real quarterback there, it's going to be very frustrating. These are some quick ones. Factor Fiction is Justin Field droppable. Fact. He is fact. That's absolutely a fact. Here's one from Stink. Fact or fiction is born. Done. It should be dropped.

[C]

Fact.

[A]

Yes. I think it's Joe done.

[B]

Fact or fiction? Joe froze. Fact. Born.

[A]

I didn't see that.

[B]

He had a big old freeze.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It'S probably. It's probably fact because like Sky Moore.

[A]

Has more yards than yesterday.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, but that was back. It's like a big. It's a big fat no. Here's one. Don Vito Back to fiction. Panther should trade Chuba and make Rico a bell count.

[C]

Fact.

[A]

They should. But the fiction because it's not going to happen because no one's taking that re that contract to Chuba. Hub. Would you all agree? Yeah.

[B]

100 yeah, he should but they're not gonna.

[A]

Here's one from Dread Panthers might be a contender for the playoffs. Factor Fiction.

[B]

Fiction.

[C]

Yeah, I don't think the defense is there yet.

[A]

Can Joey. Can Joey be Jerry Jones for Halloween? Maybe. Maybe there's sons of. Let me tell you something. And then what I did is I took Bachmann and Welsh and I traded him to Minnesota and I got four first round draft picks and that's what I did. And I remade the whole show. I got myself Rich Eisen. I got a whole bunch of people here in the show now and all I do was trade away Scott Bogman and Chris Welsh. That's all I do. Let's go. Fact or fiction? Ricky Pearsall is relevant rest of season. Ouch. Ow. Oh, this stings. This one. I don't like this one at all. Yeah, he's gonna come back this week because. Because I understand why we're asking this. And it's getting to a point where it's like, oh, God, they're not wrong.

[C]

You have to take the ball away from Christian McCaffrey, for God's sake.

[A]

So, yes, take that ball away from that man.

[B]

But we're only asking because he got hurt. I'm not really sure what the ouch is like. When he's back, he'll be relevant.

[A]

Yeah, he's gonna have. But now Kittle's back in the mix, too, and I just don't know the gun. I want to say yes because I've got all these pier all shares.

[C]

But, like, say yes, dummy.

[B]

Yes, it's true. Yes.

[C]

Fact.

[A]

He's relevant. But I understand Benson about being relevant. On the other hand, I think that's fiction. I think that's fiction. What do you think?

[C]

I'm not sure.

[B]

Yeah, fiction.

[A]

All right, there's where we're going for this one. Okay. We got a lot of father man's here Factor fiction. Baker on the road. Underdog will hit. Doesn't it always? Look, I've got him to cover tonight. And Boggs knows there's one of those parlays is going to be a big one if it hits. If Baker finds the end zone. We'll see. We'll see. That's my vision. That was my vision last. I had a vision.

[B]

Rushing. You have a rushing touchdown?

[A]

I do. Well, it's in a parlay for fun, for S's and G's. I have all my big giant investments. But then I did a little. Little side piece here just in case, and I just. I don't know. I. I went to sleep and I woke up and had a vision. A Baker Mayfield in the end zone doing Baker Mayfield stuff.

[C]

So I'm never going to credit for the gentleman I'm being today, by the way.

[A]

I just want to say you are not. But that's okay. Fact or fiction? Bears are a good bet to win the NFC North. That is fiction. They are not as good defensively as the packers and as good offensively as the Lions. That is.

[B]

That is fiction.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all right. Well, you know, spelling is not the strong suit around these parts here.

[B]

Fire and wind factor fiction.

[A]

CMC is a top three RB of Healthy and fantasy playoffs.

[C]

Yeah. The number one running back. If he's. If he's healthy and if he's healthy that way, I mean, maybe. You know what? No, I'm still going to be a gentleman.

[B]

The only argument anybody has anymore, because we've heard a few of them in the preseason, is if he get hurt, it gets hurt. You have nothing else behind you. It's all about injury. He has more. It's 31 more touches than the next running back. He just rattled off 200 yards. One of the best backs in the league. The only thing you have that doesn't do that is an injury, is a Keeley tend to. Whatever.

[A]

Also, this is one from Don Vito. Factor fiction. Brian Dabo just drafted the franchise QB for the next Giants coach.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I say fact that. The hard fact right there.

[C]

He's gone this year. I think he's gone after this year.

[B]

I think the, the players all love. I, I think he's actually a guy that could stick around, but like in three years he might be. If he. If you screw this up next year, then. Yeah.

[A]

All right, Last of the factor fictions. You can keep dropping your question. Shoot. We'll try to squeeze. Squeeze in a couple more of those at the end here. Run it for real. Fact or fiction? DJ Moore is done. Drop him for Boot or Franklin. I wouldn't drop him for Franklin, but Ksha Booty. Look, I, I think that with Kon there as. As Drake may continues to evolve as a passer, that there's enough there for Khaan Booty in terms of upside and touchdown equity. So I, I would say for Booty. Yes. But I'm probably in the minority. Am I Welsh?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, would you.

[B]

Yeah. I always think when I hear Kshawn. By the way, do you remember that singer Crayshawn? I always think of Crayshawn. Go look it up.

[A]

I think of Keisha and I think of the butter south park episode. I still think.

[B]

I still think Diggs is like the number one. It was just like, you know, we haven't had that huge, big development out of it. But also it's a kind of a rotational wide receiver core. Like he's. They still go to demario Douglas like they don't know what the hell they're doing. They're still running out Ramandre when Trayvon is there. So winning games, I don't trust anything. Booty road games, big games. And then he. Then he vanishes and he dis. Disappears. So I'm not doing this for more. But I'm not saying I wouldn't want to pick him up.

[A]

All right, let's take a look at the 311 board from last week and where we are right now because things are moving and shaking right now. As you can see, I'm at 6, bog's at 6, Welsh is at 3. So still coming back here a little bit, but Welsh still plenty of time here in this contest. Last week only Boggs got CMC and Welsh got Justin Herbert. I got nothing. Dak Prescott also missed by a yard on his over. Pissed me off. Well, Jonathan Taylor Patrick was bench in.

[C]

The third quarter, so I could have got.

[A]

That's fine, that's fine. But a lot of good process. Jonathan Taylor had 94 rushing yards. Right? I mean, real close there, but. All right, whatever. So this week I'm going with Joe Flacco against the New York Jets. The jets have quit. It is over, it is done. It is a short week. I don't care who's playing quarterback. I don't care what it is. It doesn't matter. Joe Flacco give me 300 yard passer Joe Flacco along with 100 yard receiver Jamar Chase this week and I'm gonna go back to the wall again. Jonathan Taylor against Tennessee Titans. Give me Jonathan Taylor. I. You know, you just missed it last week, buddy. I'm gonna give you a second chance. Before we go sideways there, bog, since we're tied now. I see you are also running it back with Patrick Mahomes this week.

[C]

Yeah, I'm gonna go with Patrick against Washington. He won't be benched in the third quarter because they are up so many points. We're going to go with Bijan Robinson versus the Miami Dolphins. Talking about teams that have quit. I think the Dolphins might be there as well. And then Justin Jefferson against the chargers for my 100 yard receiver because whoever is the quarterback should just throw the ball to him 23 times as Joe Flacco showed us against, you know, the Steelers and Jamar Chase. Just throw to your best player a million times. It'll work out. I think that's what you should do with Jefferson as well.

[A]

That's fair. Fair, Welsh. All right, let's clean sweep this week. Welsh, three for three for you. What do you have?

[B]

All right, I am going to go with Justin Herbert who just dropped 400. So I'm going to run that back against the Minnesota Vikings defense. A little questionable. I can't help myself. You guys literally pick the two. By the way, I'd quench on Judkins this past week, the three touchdowns hurt my soul because he couldn't get to 100 yards. But I'm going to go with Jonathan Taylor. With you. It has to be B. I mean, Bijan is like hashtag.

[A]

I mean, it has to be. Yeah, like, yeah.

[B]

But I'm going to go with Jonathan Taylor because what I also like is the other end. Drake London didn't have one of those big crazy games of 49ers. Kind of shut that down a little bit. It went to a lot of Kyle Pitts. I think there's going to be a pivot this week and it's going to get back to Drake London heavy usage against his stink old Dolphins team. So I'm going to go. Drake London, Jonathan Taylor and Justin Herbert, guaranteed they're all not gonna hit it because I am the worst at this game this year.

[A]

I will say this. I think Tyler Algier could Probably get the 100 yards at this point. Forget Bija. I mean, like, just. Just give everybody the football. The Dolphins are in a bad, bad way. But we did get news that TUA is going to start next week. So I just came across the the news bar there. Let's talk about Lamar Jackson's eminent return this week. Is he QB1 rest of season factor fiction here. Boggs, do you think you can get back to the number one fantasy QB spot? Yeah, of course. Yeah.

[C]

As long as he's fully healthy. He's Lamar. He's still going to run and pass and still going to be, you know, a top three qb. It's him and Allen and Daniels and Daniels is hurting out too. So it's really between him and Allen if they're both healthy. So, yeah, he can easily get there.

[A]

You know, there's a lot of people talking about this annie Dalton, Tedro McMillan stuff. Everybody, like, pump the brakes a little bit. Here's another one like, oh, he's gonna be his AJ green. Like, what year is it? This is not 2015.

[C]

Okay, Joe Flacco do it with Jamal Chase. What are you talking.

[B]

All everybody could do with the Joe Flacco stuff is be like, well, listen, he had a bad offensive line and they said nothing.

[A]

Couldn't win a playoff game. Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl. Let's not compare these two guys.

[B]

Joe Flacco is like as old as you too. So, like he's getting it.

[A]

Just like, especially my Joe Flacco.

[B]

I agree with this. You know what Dalton's not gonna do? Dalton's not gonna be running around Trying to. He is just gonna pick his guy.

[C]

He's.

[B]

He's going to do one, one or one check down and that's it. He's going to just make it super simplistic. I don't think that's the worst thing in the world. I kind of agree. This is an upgrade for Tet, by the way.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

Years younger than you and me Welsh. So.

[A]

Yeah. What does that say about you guys? There you go. Yeah. Also Kendra Miller, out for the year now with a torn acl. So any shares of him are now gone. Does this change any dynamic now for the Saints, like in that backfield camara? Okay.

[C]

I mean, honestly, they have just nothing behind him. It's Devin Neal.

[B]

Wait, are you saying they should or shouldn't?

[A]

I'm just. They should.

[B]

Yeah, well, he's not. He already said he's going to retire if they trade him, so he's not gonna. He's not going anywhere.

[A]

Yeah, well, that's it. So do we all believe Tyrod Taylor is going to be the quarterback for the jets this week on Thursday Night Football?

[C]

I. You're owing seven. You're like scrambling for your job right now. Go to the vet.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I'm with that.

[A]

Darren Waller is week to week and isn't expected to require surgery. So that was a fun couple weeks of Darren Waller. Right? Like, this is what I tried to tell everybody. I was like, look, you could, you know, you start them for a couple weeks, but you have to know gonna.

[C]

Get a bunch of auto tune songs about it in the next couple weeks.

[A]

I can only hope. Also, does Breeze hall get traded between now and next week because trade deadline's looming.

[B]

You know, I was very against all that. Like, you probably need to blow this stuff up. Like he's talking about how he's been here for years and it stinks. Like he's just openly. He doesn't care. They probably should. But the problem is is the market for all these backs. They did some like, you know, interview gms and stuff and everyone's like, the like fifth round pick. Like that's crazy to me. Like maybe I just.

[A]

He's going to walk anyway. Take the fifth round pick. This is what.

[B]

I guess that's true. I guess that's take all the pictures.

[A]

And you're going to have the number one pick. So eventually if you want to like trade back into the first round, you're just acquiring more picks in order to move back in or move up again somewhere else like that. And that's what great organizations do they acquire picks and then move that draft capital, continue to move up and make?

[C]

I would love to see like when Braylon comes back. I'd like to see what him and Davis do and I'd really like to just see what Davis does. Honestly, he's one of my favorite backs out of that class. I thought he was better than Braylon Allen, so I like to see what.

[A]

He has between Davis and Spears. Like you should be thinking about the future here a little bit and hedging for the next two weeks.

[B]

Where the hell would he go by the way? Like I'm looking, you know it would be a good bet. What about the Chargers? Get a team like the Chargers in.

[A]

The Tri State area. That was the first rumor two weeks ago when they said no, no another trade in Bree Hall. Well that would certainly be interesting too. Especially Kareem Hunt's got an injury too now too. So lots to look forward to, lots to look ahead. Make sure you join us on our Twitch Again Twitch TV Fantasy Pros. That's the place to be every Monday morning or afternoon depending on where you are. 2:00pm Eastern Time. That's where we are live here. And of course subscribe to the Twitch. You can win the Ash and Genti jersey that is going to be given away and if you are a subscriber of Twitch, you have a one and a half times odds boost. So go join the Twitch subscribe and of course subscribe to our YouTube channel as well at Fantasy Pros. That'll do it for us. Can we see the bro picture one more time? I feel like I need the bruh that'll do it for us. But the story of the game goes on bruh. We'll see you next time bruh. Don't come at me bruh. Have a good week. Eight Everybody.

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