Fantasy Football Takeaways: Fact or Fiction + Week 9 Waiver Wire & Trade Advice | Out of Bounds (Ep. 1803)

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Episode: Fantasy Football Takeaways: Fact or Fiction + Week 9 Waiver Wire & Trade Advice | Out of Bounds (Ep. 1803)
Date: October 28, 2025
Hosts: Joey P. (Joe Pisapia), The Welsh, Scott Bogman

Episode Overview

This lively and banter-filled Out of Bounds episode dives into major Week 9 fantasy football takeaways, provides critical waiver wire and trade advice, and sorts through Fact or Fiction listener questions. Hosts Joey P., The Welsh, and Scott Bogman mix big-picture NFL analysis with actionable recommendations for every fantasy GM. Notable moments include fierce debates on Giants/RB situations, Jonathan Taylor's insane fantasy run, and a host of rapid-fire Fact or Fiction dilemmas.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Injury Fallout and the Giants’ Rest-of-Season Outlook

• Cam Skattebo & Malik Nabers Injuries: The Giants lose two key playmakers. The crew discusses the major impact on rookie QB Jackson Dart and the general offensive output for the rest of 2025.

  • Welsh: "This team…they look like a New York-based football team. Which, as of recent, not so great. They’ve got no good players…Jackson Dart’s gonna be running in circles...I don’t hold out really great hope for the Giants moving forward." (05:05)
  • Joey P.: Questions whether an effective evaluation of Dart’s franchise potential is possible this year.
  • Scott Bogman: Compares Giants’ situation to Titans’—“they need a battering ram like Cam Skattebo and they don’t have it…Singletary and Tracy aren’t that guy.” (06:07)

• Waiver Reaction – Tyrone Tracy:

  • Joey P.: “He’s probably now going to be very fantasy worthy and somebody you should be...slightly aggressive picking up.” (05:42)
  • Scott Bogman: “Tracy’s at the top of waiver RBs this week…But don’t expect Skattebo volume.” (06:07)
  • Singletary still will get 20% of snaps, but Tracy is the RB2/flex target for the rest of season.

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2. Jets, Browns, Giants – Who’s the NFL’s Worst Team?

• Poll & Debate: Hosts poll audience on Twitch about which New York team is worst.
  • Bogman & Joey P.: “The Jets is the permanent answer.” (07:20)
  • Welsh: Suggests Giants are just as bad; chat poll overwhelmingly picks Jets (45-1). (13:36)

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3. Waiver & Trade Questions

Rico Dowdle’s Value (08:18)

• Joey P. & Bogman: Hold for now; RB split will favor Dowdle as the season progresses, especially if Bryce Young returns.
• Welsh: "This actually might be a decent buying opportunity...he’s so much better in open space." (09:01)

Breece Hall/Isaiah Davis Outlook (10:20)

• Trade Rumblings: Will Breece Hall be moved? Is Isaiah Davis a fantasy must-add?
  • Welsh: Under 50% chance Hall is traded, but “you have to hold Isaiah Davis in case this does happen...they’re going to give the rock to him a ton.” (11:52)
  • Bogman: “I hope he gets traded…I’d love to see Isaiah Davis get this job…he’s a more complete back.” (11:56)

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4. Guillotine League Strategy & Dynasty Values

• Bidding Strategy: (13:32–15:01)
  • Joey P.: "I’m emptying the tank for Lamb...next for JSN, Jefferson’s my third."
  • Bogman: Suggests selling Ke’Shawn Boutte in dynasty if you can get a second—Pats should add WRs next year.

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5. RB Timeshares & Patience

Trayvon Henderson & RJ Harvey (16:33)

• Welsh: "You're only going to get a partial turn...it's the Ken Walker/Charbonnet thing." Henderson is flex-relevant but won't be the true workhorse.
• Bogman: Prefers Henderson’s ceiling over Harvey; "Henderson has the potential to be a great back."

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6. Big Takeaways from Week 9

(Segment starts ~19:53)

• Joey P.:

  • "My takeaway is the Bears should try Tyson Bagent. I don’t think Caleb is the kind of fit for what Ben Johnson wants. He wants a pocket guy…" (19:53)

• Welsh:

  • "49ers defense is trash...Target the 49ers right now, especially in the passing game. They’ve given up the third-most passing yards over the past three weeks." (20:04)

• Bogman:

  • "Steelers defense looks miserable…making no adjustments...Terrell Austin is not a good DC right now." (22:22)

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7. Moment of the Week

• Joey P.: Breece Hall’s TD pass to Mason Taylor–“it was just fun…that kind of says it all about the Jets.” (26:25)
• Welsh: Jonathan Taylor's streak—three #1 overall fantasy weeks, four multi-TD games. "He’s been absolutely spectacular.” (27:22)
• Bogman: "Escalator of sadness" for Bengals fans after loss to the Jets, and Browns benching Miles Garrett after a franchise-record five sacks. (30:53)

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8. Fact or Fiction: Rapid Fire

(Starting ~32:51)

• Travis Hunter outscores Brian Thomas Jr. rest of season?

  • Mixed: Welsh and Joey P.: Fact, "Hunter being unleashed at WR." Bogman: Fiction, "Thomas’ talent prevails unless there are deep issues in Jax." (33:04)

• Rome Odunze > Emeka Egbuka ROS?

  • All Hosts: Fiction, Egbuka is still the guy, especially with Evans out. (35:13)

• Tucker Kraft - Elite Dynasty TE?

  • Consensus: Near top tier, but still a touch below Warren/Bowers. McBride in the mix. (38:15)

• JJ or Egbuka—who outscores the other ROS?

  • Split: Joey P. picks Egbuka, Bogman and Welsh pick JJ, but all agree it could be close. (41:40)

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9. The 3-1-1 Challenge: Week 9 Picks

(41:20, 43:40)

Three hosts each try to pick a 300-yard passer, 100-yard rusher, and 100-yard receiver for the coming week. None have gone 3-for-3 this year.

• Joey P.:

  • QB: Justin Herbert vs. TEN
  • RB: Jonathan Taylor vs. PIT
  • WR: JSN (Seattle) vs. WAS

• Welsh:

  • QB: Patrick Mahomes vs. BUF
  • RB: Christian McCaffrey vs. NYG
  • WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown

• Bogman:

  • QB: Dak Prescott vs. ARI
  • RB: Derrick Henry vs. MIA
  • WR: CeeDee Lamb vs. ARI

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Welsh (on the Giants’ playoff hopes post-injury):

  "For the rest of this season, this team...they look like a New York-based football team...I don't hold out really, really great hope for the Giants moving forward. But for the future, could be fine." (05:05)

• Bogman (on RB pickups):

  “Tracy’s at the top of waiver RBs this week…But don’t expect Skattebo volume.” (06:07)

• Joey P. (on Bears QB situation):

  "I just like to see [Bagent]. And then I will shut up about it if it’s not good… stylistically he just fits better for what Ben Johnson’s trying to do." (19:53)

• Welsh (on the 49ers defense):

  "They’re a Walmart version of [the Cowboys] right now...target the 49ers defense right now because it’s as bad as it’s been.” (21:25)

• Bogman (on the Steelers' defense):

  "They might have got blueprinted against the Bengals and I expect Daniel Jones to have an enormous week this week against the Steelers." (22:22)

• Joey P. (re: history of Jonathan Taylor's touchdown runs):

  “It feels like through seven weeks...Jonathan Taylor has four multi-TD games. He’s six off from the record—which two players broke—LT and Priest Holmes.” (27:22)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Giants Injury Fallout: 04:18–07:17
• Waivers: Tyrone Tracy & Dowdle: 05:42–09:32
• Breece Hall/Isaiah Davis Debate: 10:20–13:32
• Guillotine/Dynasty Strategy: 13:36–16:33
• RB Timeshares (Henderson/Harvey): 16:33–18:09
• Main Takeaways: 19:53–23:17
• Moments of the Week: 26:25–32:02
• Fact or Fiction Rapid Fire: 32:51–42:23
• 3-1-1 Picks: 43:20–46:49

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Energy, Chemistry & Style

This "Out of Bounds" edition is relaxed and deeply conversational, delivering sharp, often humorous insights with authentic chemistry. Joking banter, relatable analogies (the “escalator of sadness,” “Walmart version of Cowboys,” and fictitious “Italian Minute”), and pop culture riffs make this a thoroughly engaging listen.

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Conclusion

Action Items for Listeners:

• Aggressively target Tyrone Tracy on waivers but with volume caution.
• Hold Isaiah Davis, monitor Jets RB moves closely.
• Seek out downtrodden assets like Rico Dowdle as buy-lows.
• Prepare for the Giants’ offense to stagnate.
• Give a tilt to Egbuka over Odunze, and be ready to sell Ke’Shawn Boutte in dynasty.
• Always consider defensive matchups—Niners and Steelers both ripe for exploitation.

For more twists, laughs, serious fantasy advice, and bold predictions, catch every weekly Out of Bounds as the season heats up!

Transcript

[Joey P]

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[Welsh]

It does say mini but I noticed that you know, it's a mini jersey helmet.

[Joey P]

I'm gonna say it's a jersey and mini helmet is the, is the correction here. I'm gonna go on a limb and say it's a jersey, not a mini helmet.

[Welsh]

Are you gonna, are you gonna do that?

[Joey P]

Because am I the first notice this all month have we had?

[Scott Bogman]

All I know is I wish that it got more yards.

[Joey P]

There you go. Fair enough. And look, this is a little different than some of the other shows. For those people who, you know, watch this show and say, well what is this like three guys just hanging out and talking football? Yes, that's exactly what it is. And that was the whole point of this show. And Monday mornings it's fun to go out there a Monday morning quarterback and talk about all sorts of different things. And we want to take your questions here. So if you've got factor fiction questions, drop them in for our final segment. If you've got topics you want us to talk about again, we're not taking start sick questions. We're doing big picture issues here. And Boggs, I know you know, 2025 has been rough, but losing Cam Scatter Boo. I have to assume that the flags in front of your house were flying half mast today. I assume. Right. It's kind of a national day of mourning for us here at the program.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, I mean, I. Somebody perfectly used the Ron Swanson when. When the mini horse died and he's like, I saw the flag at half mast and I thought, great, another bureaucrat ate it.

[Welsh]

But, you know, you want to know. Bachmann did. This is. Bachman is completely trained to. This is my best friend. The first thing that happened was apparently because I would know. Apparently his ankle went the wrong direction. Bogman immediately went to his phone. He texts me and said, do not look and look up the Camscata booze Described as trained. I don't. Well, you know what? I'm sorry. I mean, for those of you it's imprinted into you.

[Scott Bogman]

What else should I do?

[Welsh]

I said, you're my best friend. You're my best friend. You text me to not look at it. And I did. He jumps right to the hoop.

[Scott Bogman]

He eats all of his treats. He goes on all of his walks. He's real trained. He's a good boy. Not in a bad mood.

[Joey P]

Well, it's funny because I. I immediately thought of two people when that injury happened. I thought of Scott Bogwin because of the sadness. And then I thought of the injury aversion that Welsh has to anything. Like, I don't. You're a dad of two kids.

[Scott Bogman]

Like, I don't understand it.

[Joey P]

I don't know how. Like, you know, you have to have seen injuries and things like that. Like, like you see a lot of stuff at some point. But like this was never had a.

[Scott Bogman]

Kevin Ware bone going through their arm.

[Welsh]

I had my pinky toe go the wrong direction. I had to snap it back in. Like, I've had those things.

[Scott Bogman]

But like Cam Scatter same guy.

[Welsh]

Yeah. Well, pinky toe ankle.

[Joey P]

It's pretty close. It was pleasantly surprising and I think goes to the idea of the. That Cam Scaboo has, I think from his opponents and from people who just love football and that style of football. The Eagles crowd over the years has certainly had their share of.

[Scott Bogman]

They booed Santa.

[Joey P]

They booed Santa.

[Welsh]

Batteries.

[Scott Bogman]

Standing O.

[Joey P]

They gave him a standing O. But it wasn't like a sarcastic, it wasn't like a Michael Irvin being card off the field. We, we don't like this guy kind of because remember, let's not forget that moment.

[Scott Bogman]

They were still throwing batteries.

[Joey P]

I was in college at that time and I remember watching that going, that's horrible. These people are really in a bad spot.

[Scott Bogman]

He landed like on his head in that one, didn't he?

[Joey P]

That was crazy. The scaboo one. The Philly crowd stood up slow, clapped like it was like hey man. Because you know that he's one of those players, you love him if he's on your team and if you love football, it's hard not to love that kid. So now the question is, and I see all the, the questions flowing in here in the chat. We're going to get to your questions in a second. I just want to start with this one. What do the Giants look like now? Welsh, when you're looking at no Malik Neighbors, no Camps Gattaboo. You got a rookie quarterback, Jackson Dart, who's doing the best he can. It's kind of tough sledding here for him the rest of the season to get a true evaluation. Did you see enough out of Jackson Dart when he had scatter boo and and went in there last week and challenged the Denver Broncos and came up a little short and beat the Eagles that you think, okay, this is still our franchise quarterback and maybe there's hope for next year when neighbors and scatterboard are healthy.

[Welsh]

Oh, next year, absolutely. Dart is a fun quarterback. But for the rest of this season, this team, unfortunately, I hate to say this, they look like a New York based football team. Which New York based football teams as a recent not so great. They've got no good players. They have Jackson Dart who's going to be running in circles. It's going to be like to be like Madden, you know, we're going to play tomorrow. Maybe we should play as the Giants. Here's what you do. You get the height, you run back 20 yards, you sling the ball, you hope it's not picked off. I don't hold out really, really great hope for the Giants moving forward. But for the future I think it could be fine.

[Joey P]

Okay. Boggs, Tyrone Tracy is going to take over. I know he'll be a hot waiver wire claim the rest of the year. I think we know what he is right. He is an RB2. He has some limitations. He has some fumble issues but he's going to have some volume. I'm sure Singletary will get you know, 20% here and there. But Tyrone Tracy is a guy that is probably now going to be very fantasy worthy and probably somebody that, you know, you should be, I guess, slightly aggressive picking up, I would say, to be on the safe side, eh?

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah. I mean, it's been better this week is better for running back ads than it has been like the last three or four weeks. And Tyrone Tracy's at the top of it, of course. But I mean, I think what you miss with him versus Scatter Boo is obviously just the volume of touches, right. Scatter Boo is a dude that can touch the ball 25 times a game. I don't think Tyrone Tracy is that guy. He probably maxes around 20. So singletary will be mixed in. You know, they'll do their best. But I mean, this is really going to hurt an offense because I think like what the Titans are missing outside of, obviously pass catchers, but the Giants don't have very great pass catchers right now either, is that running back. Right. They miss a hammer. That's what they need. They don't have it between Spears and Pollard. They have two guys that kind of do the same thing. They need. They need a battering ram like Cam Scatter Boo is and they don't have it. So now that the Giants don't have it, neither Singletary or Tracy are like that. I think this offense might start to look a little bit like Cam Ward in the Titans, obviously a little bit better because Cam Ward has been miserable this year. He's part of the problem. Jack Start has been pretty good, but I still don't think it's going to be very good. And I was kind of worried about this when they lost Malik. Now Malik and Scatter Boo are down. I think this is going to be.

[Welsh]

Who'S the worst team, the jets or the Giants?

[Scott Bogman]

The Jets.

[Joey P]

Jets are worse.

[Scott Bogman]

The jets is the permanent answer.

[Joey P]

Yeah.

[Welsh]

Are we sure?

[Joey P]

Yes. Yeah, absolutely. The. The Giants already beat the Eagles. I mean, even with the injuries.

[Welsh]

Let me get a poll in the. Let's get a poll going. I think the jets just won the Giants, who name three players.

[Scott Bogman]

The jets had to come back and beat the Bengals. I mean, look, my team got blueprinted by the Bengals, but they had Joe Flacco hurt at the end of that game. So yeah, I think the Giants are still way better.

[Joey P]

I wasn't going to bring up your team, but that is a very expensive defense to be giving up that many points in the second half of that football game. Very expensive. Most expensive in the NFL. By the way, no team has paid more for their defense than the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I don't think they're getting what they want out of them right now. But we want your questions here. Let's start with W. Collins. What do I do with Rico Dowdle? I say you hold them Bogs. I'm not trying to get rid of Rico Dowdle. I understand it gets a little bit more difficult with the Chuba Hubbard return, but what are your thoughts on Dowdle rest of season?

[Scott Bogman]

Bogs. Yeah, I still like Dowdle. I mean, it is gross. But I do think it will get better when Bryce Young comes back. So I. It's a nasty split right now, but he's the better running back and I think eventually they're going to have to like, you see every other team just lean into the best running back. Niners, obviously. So I think you have to lean in and you have to give your best player the ball a little bit more. And I think that's going to happen moving forward because it wasn't getting it done this week. So I think we'll see more.

[Welsh]

Eight touches ain't going to do it, by the way, for Rico. Like, like, I was shocked, man. I was almost. Almost hammered his. His receiving yard prop.

[Joey P]

I mean, they. Yeah, but, but Dalton had so many turnovers. Like, that was a big problem too.

[Welsh]

Dalton was a pile of garbage. But no, that was the thing right there is Dowdle, to me is if you're gonna have eight carries. If you would have told me pre game, like, all right, Dowdles didn't just have eight carries. I'd be like, oh, well, that means they threw him probably five or six times because he is so much better in open space than Shuba Hubbard. He had zero targets. He had eight total touches in this game. So what do you do with him? As I think this actually might be a decent buying opportunity because they're going to win any games. First off, does not look like it's going to be with Andy Dalton, but second, it's going to be like 15 plus touches from Rico Dowdle. So I think this is a little bit of an outlier.

[Joey P]

All right. They're like 12 point underdogs this week going to Green Bay. So that should be interesting to watch how, how that unfolds. There's a poll up to our incredible producer. Seth just put a poll up who has who's the worst New York football team. Jess are giants. So that'll be interesting to see what the people say. I. I think it's still the jets and I'm pretty sure that's where we're at here. All right, let's get to another question.

[Scott Bogman]

What if you threw the Browns in there?

[Joey P]

Well, well, I mean, then it's not the New York football team question. There you go. I think the Browns are the worst team, personally. There you go. Somebody's.

[Welsh]

By the way, Joey, how about the greatest bet that's ever been put on one of our prop shows? I put Jerry Judy under receiving yards on the prop show as my 1 under for this week.

[Scott Bogman]

Smash, how's that? Not minus 2 8.

[Welsh]

It didn't matter what the number was because he didn't do anything. It's the greatest bet that we've ever put out there. He didn't have a catch. It was amazing.

[Joey P]

Here's Nick's question. Was yesterday the final game for Bree hall and the Jets? I'm holding Isaiah Davis. Would he be a JIT RB2 rest of season if hall gets traded? Welsh was the. I mean, look, if you're going to have an audition tape, this was the one. I think people, you know, if you're looking for a running back, Breeze Hall's got to be the top guy on your list. If the jets were smart, they would sell him off this game, play Isaiah Davis and could continue to move on. But do you think that hall does get traded here in the next week or so?

[Welsh]

There was the key. You said if the jets were smart. Something really stupid happens with NFL teams like they. Where they have no wins. They got a win. Now it's going to be like maybe we have momentum. Aaron Glenn is turning things right. Like I would say it's the worst time that they were going to go and trade somebody is after picking up a win that they can like turn this thing around.

[Scott Bogman]

1 and 7.

[Welsh]

No, 100%. I would regardless. I would be trying to hold on to Isaiah Davis because, you know, he's getting a little bit more run. If this were to happen, I think the odds are under 50% that Breeze hall is going to get traded. Do I think that's kind of the play? Yeah, I do. But there is this compensation battle in the NFL. It's especially around running backs where what is Breece hall going to get you back a 5th round pick? Would that team rather just like, you know, try to win some games, try to build up some confidence, or do they really want to move him off of like for a fifth or sixth round pick? I kind of just don't think they do. So I think it's under 50% breeze hall gets moved. But despite like what I feel, you have to hold on to Isaiah Davis in case this does happen because like they're doing with Breeze hall, they're going to give the rock to him a ton.

[Joey P]

All right, Boggs, do you have any thoughts here on the Breeze hall situation or Isaiah Davis?

[Scott Bogman]

I mean, I hope he gets traded. I really would like to see him somewhere else, not with the Jets. And I would love to see Isaiah Davis get this job. Right. Like I thought Isaiah Davis was better than Braylon Allen coming out. I think he's just a more complete back. So I would love to see him get a shot here and I would love to see Breece on a better team. Look at what the Niners did for cmc, obviously. Right. Like that was a huge move. I think the only way you get this move though is if you do get a couple teams in a bidding war for him. Right. Like where it goes up to a fourth. Yeah. Where it goes up to a fourth. Maybe even like a fourth and a fifth or something too.

[Joey P]

I mean that's what you really.

[Welsh]

You would have said the Chargers.

[Joey P]

But then Vidal has been good, so that's. That's kind of a tough one.

[Scott Bogman]

I'd say Houston is definitely still that.

[Joey P]

That's the one that I keep circling. Like I, I think he is. I think he could be not only their present bogs but their future as well.

[Scott Bogman]

You like it on mixing today too? They. They specifically asked about him and he said no update.

[Joey P]

Yeah. So no update on Mix and he's good as gone next year. Clearly the organization and he have had a falling out. Chubb was a one year kind of stop gap. I don't think Woody Marks has shown you that. You know, Breeze hall can show you. Offensive line is still not great, but Breeze hall would be a huge help. I agree. You also might be that spot.

[Welsh]

The other thing we're not considering is you might. This would be the worst case scenario. You might see a team that just goes out and says like we don't have really great depth and we could run a two back system and they might do that. I wanted to ask you guys this because apparently our poll has some pretty resounding results. What about this? If Breeze hall were traded, which running back would you want? Tyrone Tracy or Isaiah Davis?

[Scott Bogman]

I don't. Davis.

[Joey P]

I agree. I think I would want Davis.

[Welsh]

Jets again.

[Joey P]

Yeah. By the way, the results of the poll, 45 to 1 on the votes there for the jets being the worst. So look, two wins back to back days for The Jets. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Jackson's doing all right, everybody. All right, let's get to some more questions again. Drop your questions in here. And of course, we're gonna do factor Fiction later too. So. We love the Factor Fictions. Drop them in. Seth will compile them and put them together a nice little package. Here's one about guillotine leaves. Oh, I love the chop stuff. All right, so Jefferson, jsn, and Lamb will all be available this week. I've got Nico and amon raw and $433 left. Should I throw it all on each of them? Yes. So, yes, you want to throw it on lamb first. 433.

[Welsh]

No, I did the same amount. I probably do like $. I guess I see your point that you could go like 4. I don't know if I would actually do 433, by the way. I might do like.

[Joey P]

Oh, I would. 404.

[Welsh]

No, I was gonna say, like. I do like. That's fine. If you want to do that. Do 433 on. I would probably do Jefferson. I probably would do. You know what? I would do the same amount and I would just order them.

[Scott Bogman]

I would just do the one jsn. But it's not like between Lamb and Jefferson. Flip a coin. But I'll tell you this. If somebody has $434, you are not getting one of those guys.

[Joey P]

I'm with Boggs is. I'm emptying the tank for Lamb. I'm emptying the tank next for jsn, and Jefferson's my third because I'm just not sold on what the Vikings are going to be a quarterback right now because I don't think you're going to see Wentz again. Physically, he looked like he never wanted.

[Scott Bogman]

To step on a football hospital. Isn't he?

[Joey P]

I mean, he looks so much in.

[Scott Bogman]

Pain on the island of Misfit Toys, whatever it is.

[Joey P]

Look, man, that guy gave it everything he could. He had his arm wrapped in a thing like that guy gave a warrior performance. It was just not a good one. But there's nothing you could do about that. But I don't know. I mean, McCarthy's played eight quarters of football so far. One's been good. So that's a little problem for me. How legit is K Sean Booty Dynasty holder trade? Boggs, you're the dynasty guy around these parts. What do you think of the performance of Booty? Has he, or should I say has Drake may really created this world now where. Yeah, Diggs is viable. Yeah. Booty's viable. Yeah. Hunter Henry's viable. And who knows, maybe if they add some more help all of a sudden the off season, whoever that person is, becomes more viable. Do you think Booty stays next year too? Or is this a guy that the hey, Drake May needs more help. Let's go get a DJ more. Let's go get somebody else.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, that's what I think. You saw the Patriots build up the defense this year on in it through free agency.

[Welsh]

Right.

[Scott Bogman]

I think it's going to be the same thing for the offense this year because there's still a little cap space there and picks I think are going to be spent on receivers here because you have your running back, Trayvon Anderson, even though you refuse to give him the damn ball, which is so unbelievably super fiat. Fumbled though. God, it makes me so mad because Stevenson sucks.

[Joey P]

But whatever.

[Scott Bogman]

You know, I just think they're going to add weapons next year, so I think he's a nice sell. If you could get it's not a good class next year. If you could get a second form, I think I'd go ahead and do it the third. I'd rather take a 27 third. But you have to wait the extra year. I just think that's going to be a much better class than 2026.

[Joey P]

Well, you know, this has kind of been the question plaguing all of us. So Travion Henderson had 10 carries for 75 yesterday. That was certainly positive. We like the direction that's going. RJ Harvey also getting a fair amount of work yesterday. Those are two backs that we were hoping would be kind of these guys we could draft a little later, be our stalwart RB2s with upside for more. Are we starting to see that turn a little bit in their favor? Do have we just not been patient enough with those two guys?

[Welsh]

So I think we are seeing the turn, but here's the problem. You want a full turn and you're only going to get a partial here. You want the full 360. You're getting a 180 because what it is is Travion was nothing. Now he's going to be into some split version. Do you ever think you're going to get more than him being we're using this a lot this year, but this is the Ken Walker Charbonnet thing. That's what we keep going back to. That's what this is going to be. It's just going to be like Ramandre 13 carries Travion 10. Maybe he gets a catch or two. So what the positive is is Trayvon is now getting back into like flex relevancy. Kind of like RJ Harvey did as well but for Instartable in like a flex spot. But is he going to overtake? I don't think that's happening this year. Unless Ramon Dre is out, I do not think we are going to get like a three week span where Trayvon Henderson is a top 20 back overall. So Tiger turning, but it's not like you guys think it is.

[Joey P]

Boggs, if you could only have one of them, which one do you want rest of season? Actually, let me rephrase. Rest of season. And if you only had one in Dynasty, which one would you want in case people are starting to look those.

[Scott Bogman]

Kind of moves between. Between henderson and who?

[Joey P]

R.J. harvey.

[Welsh]

Oh, Harvey.

[Joey P]

I want.

[Scott Bogman]

I want Henderson. I still think Henderson has way more upside than RJ Harvey. I think RJ Harvey is a very good back, but I think Henderson has the potential to be a great back. I don't like this rookie nonsense. This is the same thing that McDermott does in Buffalo and they could set a guy like Keon Coleman back last year and I hope it doesn't do that with Henderson here. I think he should be the main back. So I don't know. I do like that Welsh described this, these two backs as like a busted trick at the X Games. Like you want a 360 but you're only going to get a 180.

[Welsh]

I did like it was very Trayvon.

[Joey P]

181 from Evan York. Is Evans a drop or should I hold? No, you have to drop him. You need more help. You got to get to the playoffs. And there's plenty of guys out there this week too, I think to pick up. There's plenty of guys. I don't see Evans coming back and making an impact. And if you get amazing news on him and you're still viable, then just go pick him up again and just get ahead of the curve there. All right, let's talk about our takeaways and our favorite moments from the week. My takeaway is the Bears should try Tyson Pageant. I know that's an unpopular opinion, but I don't care. I've been saying this the whole time. I don't think that Caleb is. Is the kind of fit for what Ben Johnson wants. I think what Ben Johnson wants is a guy who's going to just sit in that pocket, get rid of the football delivered on time, no nonsense, not trying to make a million different plays and certainly not a guy who is in a position there in the fourth quarter with a game where it was still in reach in his own territory, making a horrible decision there. He gives up the the ball, he throws interception there and then the rest is history there. The Ravens end up taking away a game that was very winnable for the Chicago Bears. And I know this isn't going to happen right away. It would because of the Bears record. I know it would take a few losses in a row for this to happen, but I can't help but wonder, not because Tyson Bajan does great, but stylistically if he just fits better for what Ben Johnson's trying to do in that Chicago Bears offense. So that that's my takeaway is I'd like to just see it and then I will shut up about it if it's not good. I just like to see it. Welsh, what is your takeaway from Week nine?

[Welsh]

So not to make this like, you know, like, oh, I'm a Niner fan. Bogman's a Steeler fan. We're going to talk about it every single week. But what I want to say the 49ers defense is trash. And the reason why it is fantasy relevant is we were in this spot. We were kind of like, you know, it's 49ers defense. It's maybe in the top half. Maybe it's not a good matchup. It's a good matchup now, so you should target players. The Giants are playing the 49ers next week. Unfortunately they don't have any players. But Jackson Dart is just going to dice him up. He's going to be a Great start. The 49ers have given up the third most passing yards over the last three weeks. Overall, over a hundred. Over 260 passing yards. You can run on them at will. The Houston Texans defense looks phenomenal. Niners offense to but the offense, it's not super great.

[Producer/Announcer]

But guess what?

[Welsh]

They were doing five, six yards every single carry. There's no push right now because there's no great coverage. The secondary looks awful. Bad decisions. Malik Mustafa is atrocious. Target the 49ers right now, especially in the passing game. But all plays are doable. Tyrone Tracy's not the worst play this week. I think won. Dale is going to dice them up and Jackson Dart's going to be solid. So target the 49ers defense right now because it's as bad as it's been. And like I said, they're middle of the pack in rushing yards, but the third most passing yards over the last three weeks combined is the 49ers.

[Joey P]

Well, I mean when they have Warner and Bosa, you don't think they're bad defense, right? So this is just about injuries affecting the defense or you think they've lost everybody.

[Welsh]

Yeah, they lost both. They've lost their two best players. They're just beat up across the board too. Yeah, they are a shell of, of who they were before, where they were probably borderline like a top 10 defense. They're at the bottom. They're. They're not quite Dallas Cowboys, but I think they're Cowboys light. Where you look at the Cowboys matchup, this was the Bo Nicks thing this week. I was kind of like, I don't know if I want to Trust Bo Nicks. Four touchdowns easy. The 49ers are like they're a Walmart version of that right now. Like I think they're going to give up like top 10 in fantasy points on a week in a week out basis and they got nobody that's going to come fix that. They're all hurt and they continuously get hurt. So I would really pay attention to matchups. Boost up a few of those players and they might put good streaming options when the 49ers are in town.

[Joey P]

All right, Boggs, what was your big takeaway from week nine?

[Scott Bogman]

I mean, similar. Excuse me, part two Similar to Welsh's. The Steelers defense looks miserable. You mentioned it. How you know this is the highest paid defense in the NFL this year. They just lost to Sean Elliott, likely for the year when their best safeties as well. But they are making no adjustments. That's the problem. They didn't adjust against Jamar Chase on Thursday Night Football and they had extra time going into this game and they didn't make any adjustments and they got adjusted on in the second half. Terrell Austin is not a good DC right now. You cannot be paying this this team so much money on the defensive side and give up career highs to Jordan. Love you just cannot do it. So terrible game the last two weeks for the Steelers D. They might have got blueprinted against the Bengals and I expect Daniel Jones to have an enormous week this week against the Steelers. So both of our defenses have been bad. At least Welsh has an excuse. All of his players are dead. My players are mainly fine but are just not making.

[Welsh]

I did see Elliot happen live last night though and I didn't love that one.

[Scott Bogman]

That was a bad one.

[Joey P]

I enjoy my Patriots defense for what's worth that spilling pick was fun to watch.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yay.

[Welsh]

Good for you.

[Scott Bogman]

In Texas Tech, you spend all the money you get the good players.

[Joey P]

Well, you know what? There were times where we had a lot of money to spend and we did not. We spent it all on Johnny Smith. I remember one off season, so that.

[Welsh]

Was I hope you guys bring Belichick back when he gets fired from number one.

[Joey P]

Yeah, now we're good. Now we're good.

[Welsh]

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[Joey P]

And Zyn offers a robust rewards program.

[Welsh]

There's a lot of options for nicotine satisfaction, but there's only one Zyn. So if you go to zyn.com find that's z y n.com find to find Zyn at a store near you. This product does contain nicotine.

[Joey P]

Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

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[Scott Bogman]

That's the Jets.

[Joey P]

I had a beautiful afternoon. It was quiet. I just, I, I brought the TV outside, lit the fire out back. Hanging out there having a beverage. Perhaps a little Uncle Arnie's there. I was talking about this in the waiver wire show not sponsor the show. I'm trying to get a new sponsor a show so they sent me more stuff because I love it and part of it was going to boy this, this is really kicking in. You know that or the jets are winning right now. One of these two things are going in. I couldn't figure out what it was but it was very entertaining.

[Scott Bogman]

I feel bad because the hallucinogens in.

[Joey P]

These maybe THC drink it is but you know apparently I'm the secret sauce for the jets winning but it was a little sad to me at the same time as a bittersweet because I was enjoying the whole Joe Flacco renaissance. It's been a fun story there. So it's not the greatest line there for the Bengals unfortunately. So a tough loss for them but it was a fun way to win a game. They stuck to running the football. That's what they should do. Bruce hall was good, Davis was good. It was good time there. Welsh, what was your moment of the week?

[Welsh]

My moment was it was kind of like a more macro thing but like you guys know Jonathan Taylor is pretty dang good this week. It took him.

[Scott Bogman]

Someone would have told you that.

[Welsh]

Only this is his lowest carry amount this season. He had not had lower than 16 carries in a single game yet this was his third number one overall fantasy finish in half PPR. The thing that I wanted to point out was this was his fourth game with double digit or two plus touchdowns and we talked about this on the prop show three of the last four weeks he's now had two plus touchdowns. His two touchdown number was only plus 125 which is, I'm surprised to be honest with you. But check this out.

[Scott Bogman]

Titans.

[Welsh]

It feels ridiculous what he's doing but I wanted to see is he closing in on the most double digit touchdowns? No, not even close. Did you know? Do you guys. Can you name the amount and the player? There are two players actually there's one they had 10, 27. Yes and no. There are two players that had 10 games of scoring two or more touchdowns. One of them runs away with it. Priest Holmes is correct but you got the number wrong. He had 24 touchdowns over those 10 games.

[Joey P]

Do you know who the other guest?

[Scott Bogman]

Tomlinson.

[Welsh]

Ladanian. Tomlinson had 29 touchdowns in 10 games. So that is 10 games. 10 games of two or more touchdowns. So it feels like through seven weeks we are eight weeks we have. Jonathan Taylor has four multi touchdown games. He is six off from the record which two players broke. And by the way he's not even in the top 25 because that is how many players have scored two or more touchdowns in a season. But Ladanian and Priest Holmes they are the most and I'm not even. And actually the most recent was in 20246 by Saquon Barkley. So this would be like if he gets to seven or something that'll be the most in the last five or ten games. So Jonathan Taylor's on this absolutely ridiculous run. He's going to be minus money, he's a league winner but it's still not even close to the capacity of what we used to get with running backs. A Ladanian, Tomlinson and Priest Holmes shouldn't.

[Scott Bogman]

Have a problem next week against Pittsburgh.

[Joey P]

No, no, no. Well the 311 is coming up later at the end of the show. Gee, I wonder if someone may have picked Jonathan Taylor again I will say this too, I don't have the stats on this but I will, I will bet my life on it that most teams that are, you know, in first place or whatever they say, like who is the, the most rostered player on se8 no teams right now or 7 and 1 teams. I guarantee you it's Jonathan Taylor. Like I, it has to be the consistency that he's performed with the ADP that he got drafted at. He's been absolutely spectacular. And my takeaway last week was that the, the Colts weren't just good, they weren't just AFC good, they were good good. They were really good and they were going to travel and they were Going to, you know, show everybody actually how good they are. They're not just a dome team. They're not just this. They're just flat out good. And I think people are starting to understand that it's not just, oh, you're adorable. You're the best team in a bad division. Oh, you're so cute. Come here. I want to pinch your cheeks. It's not like that anymore. Culture.

[Scott Bogman]

This is our cult song.

[Joey P]

Oh, this is our cults. We bleed blue.

[Welsh]

It makes me so mad whenever I see it.

[Joey P]

I love it so much. And every week I watch it. And then he does the thing every time we.

[Scott Bogman]

We showed it to my. Still have it. My buddy Chris is a Colts fan, and I send him that every single week. It's like a tradition.

[Joey P]

Boggs, give me your moment of the week from last week.

[Scott Bogman]

The only thing that can make me happy yesterday. Well, there's two things that made me happy. Number one, escalator sadness. When the jets beat the Bengals in Cincy and all the Bengals fans had to go down the escalator and then go home to Kentucky.

[Joey P]

At least one of my favorite traditions, you know, that's even more sad. At least it takes you down slowly.

[Scott Bogman]

It's my favorite. Yeah, just head hanging, looking like Charlie Brown in the rain. It's so good. But I, you know, they sent it. They sent my sealers home like that last week in Cincinnati. But Cleveland benching Miles Garrett after five sacks and setting the franchise record was absolutely my favorite moment of the week. I mean, look, this guy, Aggie number one. Don't like him. Ended up on the Browns. Still don't like him. And he was all about, I have to get to a better culture, to a better team, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they backed up the Brinks trunk truck, and he was like, yeah.

[Welsh]

Everything around me cream get the money.

[Scott Bogman]

And now he wants to cry about it. You signed the big deal. You wanted the money over the culture. That was pretty clear from the start. And now you're stuck. So I love it. Never change. It's my favorite thing.

[Joey P]

Credit to Drake May is not a lot of guys that get sacked by Miles Garrett five times in one game and then come out winning that game. And don't let just fold up like a tent. I'm just saying, like, we fat today, but they won. We've seen greater quarterbacks than Drake. Maybe have their ass kicked by Miles Garrett and not mentally recover from those kind of situations. Right. You hear ghosts. You see able to see all these problems there. Like that was an impressive performance, Garrett.

[Welsh]

But also record wasn't like Derek Thomas. Didn't he have like seven in a game?

[Joey P]

Seven. It was Derek Thomas. I want to say it was seven.

[Welsh]

What was the most. I better be careful about how I phrase this. Sex.

[Scott Bogman]

Derek Thomas.

[Welsh]

Seven and a half a game. Oh, you already got. Oh, hold on.

[Scott Bogman]

No, I think it's. Oh, you were seven or seven and a half.

[Welsh]

It was seven. Seven by Derek Thomas. God, I'm good. I'm so good.

[Joey P]

Just off the top. And humble. Let's not forget humble, too.

[Welsh]

And humble.

[Joey P]

All right, let's do a little factor fiction here with our folks. Again, drop your fact or fiction questions. We'll have some fun here. Travis Hunter out produces BTJ rest of season. Factor fiction is from Jake Boggs. Factor fiction. What do you think about this one?

[Scott Bogman]

Me first, man.

[Joey P]

Well, while you think about it, there's also a rumor from Diana Rossini this weekend that the Bills were kicking the tires. Now, she's a good reporter too, so there's no, there's definitely smoke there where somebody called somebody.

[Scott Bogman]

Not according to Steve Sarkeesian.

[Joey P]

So.

[Scott Bogman]

Because she, she put the rumor out about Sark wanting to go to Tennessee and he had to come out.

[Welsh]

And say, I'll bet you someone with the Bills said they want this to happen. The Jags aren't sure. Why would they trade Brian Thomas?

[Joey P]

Well, if the Bills give him a first round pick, and I think that's what it would take to get him and the Bills first round pick is gonna be something in the late 20s, early 30s anyway.

[Welsh]

They could draft, what, like another Brian Thomas? A guy that could be Brian.

[Joey P]

But at least you, but at least, you know, at least he's been in the NFL for, you know, a year and a half and you know how good he could be. You put BTJ with Josh Allen because.

[Scott Bogman]

Liam Cohen hates him. That's like that.

[Joey P]

Well, that seems to be the issue.

[Scott Bogman]

He has to be a bad teammate. Like, that's. That's got to be a culture move. More than a. Because whatever, you know, your first seven games with him don't go well. You're going to get rid of his talent because of seven games. It has to be something beyond those games to me. So I don't think this happens. And I still think Brian Thomas Jr. Outproduces Travis Hunter through the rest.

[Joey P]

See, the question is phrased interestingly Welsh because it's producers. Right? So, you know, BTJ is a little banged up. He hasn't really produced. Travis Hunter is starting to Working now basically exclusively wide receiver, it feels like so.

[Welsh]

And you're not giving me the stats that have already been there. So it's like from this day forward I'm, I'm gonna say fact. Like I was really big on Travis Hunter and some of my bold predictions preseason that he was going to end up playing, playing kind of that Chris Godwin role. We really hadn't seen it up until recently, up until right when they said they were going to let that happen. I kind of, I'm going to say this is a fact but I don't think either one's like this big massive win like Travis Hunter's a wide receiver one and Brian Thomas is a wide receiver four. I think like Travis Hunter will just slightly be able to take him out on that.

[Joey P]

I'm going to be where you are, Welsh. I think it's actually fact too and I don't like it. It's, it's a fact I'm not a big fan of because I like the ETJ and I think it's a who would peculiar drop off year over here Factor Fiction Roma Dunes over a Mecca egg Buka rest of season Here we go. Welsh one. You get this one first. This is, I mean I don't know where you are. This one I have strong feelings for. Sure.

[Welsh]

Yeah, I'm gonna say this is a fiction. I'm a Mecca Igbuka guy so I'm gonna say fiction A Dunes a over a Mecca just because also the Bears offense is weird and Dunes A can disappear and they just, I don't, I don't trust any. I mean this coming week it's a good matchup but I'm gonna say this is fiction.

[Joey P]

Boggs, how about you? Fact or fiction?

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, with, with Mike Evans down, I, I think it's probably going to be egg Buko for the rest of the season but I do think it's probably pretty razor thin. And this is only, this is only a trade question. I mean you're starting both these guys so. Yeah, yeah, I, I, I think, I think it's Egbuka between them both. But I do think it's razor thin because Rome has really moved into a number one.

[Joey P]

I think this is hard fiction here. Definitely Iguka over Roma dunes day for me rest of season. It's not close.

[Scott Bogman]

I love goofy fiction to you.

[Joey P]

Well, it is because aliens come down.

[Scott Bogman]

Dr. Seuss basket weave.

[Joey P]

Yes. Buka has been tremendous. He's still my rookie of the year. I think that if there was a team that desperately needed a Buy at the right time. It's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Like, I think they were kind of running on fumes a little bit. They've been banged up a little bit.

[Scott Bogman]

Niners hurt.

[Joey P]

Yeah, but you know what? Like, this is the perfect time. Get a little. Buy a little bit of a rest here. You just had the Saints. You beat up on them a little bit. Get an easy win going into the body. You feel good about yourself. Perfect timing here for the Buccaneers to come.

[Scott Bogman]

Very Italian right there. You go down to Florida, you take a look at.

[Joey P]

What do you think?

[Scott Bogman]

You come back and everything's going well.

[Joey P]

Hey, I got a number for you. I want you to call this guy, all right? When you get down there, all right, you call this guy. You tell him that Joe sent you, all right? And you tell him you want the blue treatment. Hey, listen to me. I got all these guns worked out for you. You go down and see my guy down there in Florida. He'll take care of everything you need. And if he has any problems, you tell me. Just call me and I'll set him straight. All right? Don't worry about it. I got everything.

[Scott Bogman]

And this has been the Italian minute with Joe Pizza Pia.

[Joey P]

Well, sometimes it's the whole Italian 45. It depends. Nice timing on their voice, by the way. Effect. We did this. Let's do another faction. The well should produce a fantasy prose version of this is our cult song.

[Welsh]

Oh, no.

[Joey P]

I would like to hear him say.

[Scott Bogman]

That'S like him too, though.

[Welsh]

This is our cult. This is our team.

[Joey P]

We played blood well, actually, that's pretty good, but I think it's better when I. Yeah, it's pretty good, but is it as good as the original? Let's take a look. Is it. Is it really quite. Does it stack up to the original?

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah.

[Joey P]

Oh, the Edgar Allen. Whoa.

[Welsh]

Please put the bra. Please put. We found out what my face was in this. This now famous clip. Yep, it is. Having to watch that.

[Scott Bogman]

I'm pretty sure. Having to sneeze, but that is how.

[Welsh]

I look when I watch that video.

[Joey P]

What do you think that guy does for a living? Anyone? Take a guess. I'm just curious. A couple ideas, but it's curious, like, what's his normal week? Like, until Sunday, until he dawns the repo man. Somebody says that maybe he is big enough. Could you imagine? Like, that's the craziness of the society we live in.

[Welsh]

I type my private chat box. That might be what I just typed in the chat. I'm gonna get bogs. Pretty good. I'm gonna get Boggs real good.

[Joey P]

I don't.

[Scott Bogman]

I don't.

[Joey P]

I don't know if we could say that one. I'm sure Stink Mangio's got a question. No. Fact or fiction? Tucker Kraft is the best tight end in football. I guess, going forward, long term asset. There's nobody that I know who is bigger on Tucker Kraft than Andrew Erickson. I want to shout out Andrew because this offseason he was beating the drum pretty hard for Tucker Craft. And Tucker Craft has been beating the drum on other teams recently. Boggs, it's kind of fresh in your mind. You want to take a shot at this one. Fact or fiction?

[Scott Bogman]

Really appreciate that.

[Joey P]

Well, that's what friends are for.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah. You know, I still think Tyler Warren is better and I still think Brock Bowers is better.

[Joey P]

But Tyler, Tucker Craft is so good, dude.

[Scott Bogman]

Obviously. I'm pretty sure he pass interfered on his gigantic catch. He pushed over the defender, but whatever. I mean, he had an incredible. Is tight. I'm not crying about it. I'm just saying what happened, Shark, he still scored two touchdowns and had 143 yards. He was amazing. Best tight end on national tight end.

[Joey P]

There was a lot of bad calls this weekend, though. This was a horrible weekend for officiating.

[Scott Bogman]

I mean, did you see them? They were like three yards in the backfield and they're like, nah, not off sites.

[Joey P]

I. I would say this too, and I'm not somebody like. But bad calls happen, right? Like, you know, yeah, I coach football. There's gonna be good, there's gonna be bad. You just gotta roll it. There were enough where it was annoying to me, and I'm not somebody cry.

[Welsh]

About enough where there might be an investigation is what you're saying.

[Joey P]

I'm not at liberty to say at this time about what could be going on or might not be going on.

[Scott Bogman]

It's just his default for you Welsh. I mean, you ask him about any investigation.

[Joey P]

I think your take is rights box. I think Tyler Warren. I think Brock Bowers. But Craft is probably three.

[Scott Bogman]

Craft is in there.

[Welsh]

Let me, Let me throw this at you. I don't think it's like a definitive one. There's just a grouping of like, who are the best tight ends and it's Warren, Bowers and him. They just belong in that space. Because sometimes the offense. No, I don't think so. I mean, I think kd, like, too injured. Well, he's also. I mean, I guess if you're looking from a fantasy perspective, like K. Well, KD also gets pushed into like, you know, being a blocker and stuff. Kittle's awesome, K's amazing, but he's the next tier. So whether it's Kraft or Warren, I think they all have like these, you know, different abilities that really stand out. I mean, I love Tucker Craft. Me and Erickson were going back and forth on tight end stuff because I had a tight end touchdown parlay which I hit this weekend. Kittle and Henry and then I bet Kraft first touchdown and we just kept sharing it back titles. Tight ends are the gift that keep on giving but like to anoint Craft is the number one. I just think it's a new tier. That tier used to be, you know, what was it? Andrews, I guess Kelsey was in there. Kd it. It's just not. It's. It's Warren, it's Bowers and it's Craft and then it's the next tiering of them.

[Joey P]

But wait, we forgot McBride too in this conversation. That's back.

[Welsh]

Thank you.

[Joey P]

Like, wait a minute. This is.

[Welsh]

I was too. I was trying to think of who we left.

[Joey P]

So I, I would, you know, it's. It's difficult though, because I got to say I like Craft situation better than McBride situation because I don't know how much longer we're going to go down the Kyler Murray road. I know they signed him for a while, but I don't know, it just feels like that is going sour as well. And you know, there's gonna be a lot of teams I think next year looking for QBs and maybe just maybe the Arizona Cardinals. Like, you know what? Maybe, maybe there's something else for us here potentially just. Just thinking out loud and. And you know, Kittle is 32, so if you want to put craft at 4, put them at 3, that's fine. We definitely have some options there. This is a provocative factor Fiction. I really like this one factor Fiction is from Giggity. JJ scores more for fantasy points than IG Buka rest of season. That says this is tricky.

[Scott Bogman]

Well, what do you think, Joe? What are your thoughts immediately? Joe?

[Joey P]

Yes, I'm going to say fiction. I think IGUA outscores Jefferson. I just think he's in a more productive offense and I am concerned. This is a very big game here coming up this week for the Vikings and I don't think they're prepared for it. They just got their ass kicked in an out of conference game on Thursday night. They've had a long time to think about it. The defense has not played to its ability. The offense is struggle bus right now, JJ McCarthy is unproven. This is a tough spot here. I. And I was. You know, everybody knows I was like, vikings are gonna win this division this year. I was very much on the Vikings trail. It has fallen apart for them and I am off of it completely. So I'm on Igbuka. So I'm gonna say this is fiction here. Boggs, what do you say?

[Scott Bogman]

I'm still going to go with Jefferson. I love Igbuka. I think it's going to be close for sure. Probably within 10 or 15 points down the stretch here because I. Buka has been great, But I think McCarthy will be back, and I think he'll be better than what he showed initially. So I'll go with Justin Jefferson.

[Joey P]

And let me be clear. This is not me saying Igbuka is as good as Jefferson as a player. He's not. Justin Jefferson's on another planet from everybody else except Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson are two planets in the same orbit. Everybody else is in the whole other universe. Okay, Welsh, what about you here? I mean, Boggs, things are going to be close. I do, too, but I think Buka might edge him out.

[Welsh]

I think it's. It's possibility. It's an interesting phrase. Justin Jefferson, though, is going to be who I'm going to go with here. I still think he's like, the dude. I think when McCarthy's back, he's going to slang at him. The only way they're going to continue winning is getting to Jefferson. I do like Igbuka, and I agree with you guys. Just as like a sweep here. I think it'll be relatively close because Igbuka is like the number one target in the red zone for Mayfield. But I think Jefferson is just too, too nuts.

[Joey P]

You have to move on because the private chat's getting way too private. All right, let's. Let's do a little 31 1. Let's take a look at the leaderboard from last week, see who's at the top of that leaderboard for our contest. 300 yard passer, 100 yard rusher, 100 yard receiver. Odds still, Joey P. At the top with seven. Bogs at six, Welsh at four. Still within striking distance here. Again, though, we're going to give you our picks for this coming week.

[Scott Bogman]

Homes tonight.

[Joey P]

Still, you do have my homes tonight.

[Welsh]

And not one of us. This is the big thing we need. I feel like we. I was thinking about this today. We should have a prize. Not one of us has hit all three in one week. Like, that's the ever. We don't think we've done it ever. That's the secret sauce is to hit all three in one singular week and we, we have to have a prize for it if we can do that, which we clearly can.

[Joey P]

Well, I think the fact that Boggs, you didn't get Bijan Robinson doing it this week is a travesty. Like if ever there was a lock for that to happen, it should have been this week. Just absurd right there.

[Scott Bogman]

A lot of backup quarterbacks couldn't make it happen.

[Joey P]

I mean Kirk Cousins, Andy Dalton, all those guys starting to look like, you know. It makes Joe Flacco look more impressive, doesn't it? As Joe Flacco going, I think he's like, I'm going to put up 38 points. Here you go. Hold my beer.

[Scott Bogman]

I mean, to be fair, Joe Flacco lost to the jets this week.

[Joey P]

Did he lose to the jets or did the defense? Lose to the defense.

[Scott Bogman]

Really did.

[Joey P]

You're right. Let's not blame this on Joe Flacco, okay? The, the ministry of Joe's gets together once a week and I can tell you Joe Flacco is still one of our favorite shows. All right. For me, I'm going Justin Herbert against Tennessee this week. I'm going with Jonathan Taylor against your Pittsburgh Steelers. That's right. I'm going right for the heart here And I'm going JSN for my 100 yard receiver against the Washington Commanders. JSN has been the target hog there. Well, shoes your 311 for week nine.

[Welsh]

Who do I have? I'm going with Patrick Mahomes versus the Buffalo Bills secondary. Little Patrick Mahomes slaying the crap out of the ball. I'm also going to go with my rusher Christian McCaffrey versus the Giants. We can definitely do that. What a pile of garbage that game is going to be. But this has all the feels of a very heavy Christian McCaffrey game. Yeah. So McCaffrey should be rocking with that. And then I'm going to go with a Monroe St. Brown is my 100 yard receiver. I'm big names this week. I'm going for a 31 1. I have never gotten it. We've gotten close. I'm feeling this is the week.

[Joey P]

Yeah, the big stars are out there on the Welsh lineup. All right, Boggs, your turn. What do you have?

[Scott Bogman]

Look, I'm going to double up on Cowboys here. I'm going to take Dak Prescott against the Arizona Cardinals, pair him with Ceedee Lamb. I'm going to do the stack like DFS here, try to get two there against the Arizona Cardinals on Monday Night Football. And then I'm going to go to Derrick Henry against Miami. I'm going to pick on Miami again. I just don't think two is going to throw another four touchdowns. They control the clock and all of that stuff that they did against the Ravens, I think the Ravens will run them right over and I think Derrick Henry will do the heavy lifting. So let's go with Dak CD and Derek Henry.

[Joey P]

This is an interesting question here. Maybe not from, you know, the immediate perspective, but fact or fiction? Daniel Jones is the Colts Week 1 starter in 2026 next year. So they've got to sign him. I think they do. I think they have to pay him. Right? I think that's a fact for all of us. Right. The question is, does somebody come over the top of the Colts? Could somebody, I mean looking at the quarterback class, what it may or may not be coming out.

[Scott Bogman]

If Aaron Rodgers decides to go, he may, he may stay another year and I think Tomlin likes that. But I don't know if Tomlin makes.

[Welsh]

Steelers don't pay anybody though. Like why would you also want to leave Jonathan Taylor and leave that off and like this is a playoff team. I, I think, I think, I mean also they can't they franchise tag him too? Yeah, I think they could franchise him if not. So I think they get a deal done. Anthony Richardson, he's gone. Well, he's gone.

[Joey P]

Shane Steichen's going to be a guy who's going to make the playoffs with Gardner Minshew and he's going to make the playoffs with Daniel Jones. So I think it says a little bit about. It might also say how bad Anthony Richardson was if, if that, if, if you can make the playoffs, might be.

[Scott Bogman]

The Steelers starter next year.

[Joey P]

Yikes on that.

[Scott Bogman]

I think it might be tua.

[Joey P]

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[Scott Bogman]

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