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Episode: Fantasy Football Takeaways: Fact or Fiction + Week 9 Waiver Wire & Trade Advice | Out of Bounds (Ep. 1803)
Date: October 28, 2025
Hosts: Joey P. (Joe Pisapia), The Welsh, Scott Bogman

Episode Overview

This lively and banter-filled Out of Bounds episode dives into major Week 9 fantasy football takeaways, provides critical waiver wire and trade advice, and sorts through Fact or Fiction listener questions. Hosts Joey P., The Welsh, and Scott Bogman mix big-picture NFL analysis with actionable recommendations for every fantasy GM. Notable moments include fierce debates on Giants/RB situations, Jonathan Taylor's insane fantasy run, and a host of rapid-fire Fact or Fiction dilemmas.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Injury Fallout and the Giants’ Rest-of-Season Outlook

• Cam Skattebo & Malik Nabers Injuries: The Giants lose two key playmakers. The crew discusses the major impact on rookie QB Jackson Dart and the general offensive output for the rest of 2025.

  • Welsh: "This team…they look like a New York-based football team. Which, as of recent, not so great. They’ve got no good players…Jackson Dart’s gonna be running in circles...I don’t hold out really great hope for the Giants moving forward." (05:05)
  • Joey P.: Questions whether an effective evaluation of Dart’s franchise potential is possible this year.
  • Scott Bogman: Compares Giants’ situation to Titans’—“they need a battering ram like Cam Skattebo and they don’t have it…Singletary and Tracy aren’t that guy.” (06:07)

• Waiver Reaction – Tyrone Tracy:

  • Joey P.: “He’s probably now going to be very fantasy worthy and somebody you should be...slightly aggressive picking up.” (05:42)
  • Scott Bogman: “Tracy’s at the top of waiver RBs this week…But don’t expect Skattebo volume.” (06:07)
  • Singletary still will get 20% of snaps, but Tracy is the RB2/flex target for the rest of season.

2. Jets, Browns, Giants – Who’s the NFL’s Worst Team?

• Poll & Debate: Hosts poll audience on Twitch about which New York team is worst.
  • Bogman & Joey P.: “The Jets is the permanent answer.” (07:20)
  • Welsh: Suggests Giants are just as bad; chat poll overwhelmingly picks Jets (45-1). (13:36)

3. Waiver & Trade Questions

Rico Dowdle’s Value (08:18)

• Joey P. & Bogman: Hold for now; RB split will favor Dowdle as the season progresses, especially if Bryce Young returns.
• Welsh: "This actually might be a decent buying opportunity...he’s so much better in open space." (09:01)

Breece Hall/Isaiah Davis Outlook (10:20)

• Trade Rumblings: Will Breece Hall be moved? Is Isaiah Davis a fantasy must-add?
  • Welsh: Under 50% chance Hall is traded, but “you have to hold Isaiah Davis in case this does happen...they’re going to give the rock to him a ton.” (11:52)
  • Bogman: “I hope he gets traded…I’d love to see Isaiah Davis get this job…he’s a more complete back.” (11:56)

4. Guillotine League Strategy & Dynasty Values

• Bidding Strategy: (13:32–15:01)
  • Joey P.: "I’m emptying the tank for Lamb...next for JSN, Jefferson’s my third."
  • Bogman: Suggests selling Ke’Shawn Boutte in dynasty if you can get a second—Pats should add WRs next year.

5. RB Timeshares & Patience

Trayvon Henderson & RJ Harvey (16:33)

• Welsh: "You're only going to get a partial turn...it's the Ken Walker/Charbonnet thing." Henderson is flex-relevant but won't be the true workhorse.
• Bogman: Prefers Henderson’s ceiling over Harvey; "Henderson has the potential to be a great back."

6. Big Takeaways from Week 9

(Segment starts ~19:53)

• Joey P.:

  • "My takeaway is the Bears should try Tyson Bagent. I don’t think Caleb is the kind of fit for what Ben Johnson wants. He wants a pocket guy…" (19:53)

• Welsh:

  • "49ers defense is trash...Target the 49ers right now, especially in the passing game. They’ve given up the third-most passing yards over the past three weeks." (20:04)

• Bogman:

  • "Steelers defense looks miserable…making no adjustments...Terrell Austin is not a good DC right now." (22:22)

7. Moment of the Week

• Joey P.: Breece Hall’s TD pass to Mason Taylor–“it was just fun…that kind of says it all about the Jets.” (26:25)
• Welsh: Jonathan Taylor's streak—three #1 overall fantasy weeks, four multi-TD games. "He’s been absolutely spectacular.” (27:22)
• Bogman: "Escalator of sadness" for Bengals fans after loss to the Jets, and Browns benching Miles Garrett after a franchise-record five sacks. (30:53)

8. Fact or Fiction: Rapid Fire

(Starting ~32:51)

• Travis Hunter outscores Brian Thomas Jr. rest of season?

  • Mixed: Welsh and Joey P.: Fact, "Hunter being unleashed at WR." Bogman: Fiction, "Thomas’ talent prevails unless there are deep issues in Jax." (33:04)

• Rome Odunze > Emeka Egbuka ROS?

  • All Hosts: Fiction, Egbuka is still the guy, especially with Evans out. (35:13)

• Tucker Kraft - Elite Dynasty TE?

  • Consensus: Near top tier, but still a touch below Warren/Bowers. McBride in the mix. (38:15)

• JJ or Egbuka—who outscores the other ROS?

  • Split: Joey P. picks Egbuka, Bogman and Welsh pick JJ, but all agree it could be close. (41:40)

9. The 3-1-1 Challenge: Week 9 Picks

(41:20, 43:40)

Three hosts each try to pick a 300-yard passer, 100-yard rusher, and 100-yard receiver for the coming week. None have gone 3-for-3 this year.

• Joey P.:

  • QB: Justin Herbert vs. TEN
  • RB: Jonathan Taylor vs. PIT
  • WR: JSN (Seattle) vs. WAS

• Welsh:

  • QB: Patrick Mahomes vs. BUF
  • RB: Christian McCaffrey vs. NYG
  • WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown

• Bogman:

  • QB: Dak Prescott vs. ARI
  • RB: Derrick Henry vs. MIA
  • WR: CeeDee Lamb vs. ARI

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Welsh (on the Giants’ playoff hopes post-injury):

  "For the rest of this season, this team...they look like a New York-based football team...I don't hold out really, really great hope for the Giants moving forward. But for the future, could be fine." (05:05)

• Bogman (on RB pickups):

  “Tracy’s at the top of waiver RBs this week…But don’t expect Skattebo volume.” (06:07)

• Joey P. (on Bears QB situation):

  "I just like to see [Bagent]. And then I will shut up about it if it’s not good… stylistically he just fits better for what Ben Johnson’s trying to do." (19:53)

• Welsh (on the 49ers defense):

  "They’re a Walmart version of [the Cowboys] right now...target the 49ers defense right now because it’s as bad as it’s been.” (21:25)

• Bogman (on the Steelers' defense):

  "They might have got blueprinted against the Bengals and I expect Daniel Jones to have an enormous week this week against the Steelers." (22:22)

• Joey P. (re: history of Jonathan Taylor's touchdown runs):

  “It feels like through seven weeks...Jonathan Taylor has four multi-TD games. He’s six off from the record—which two players broke—LT and Priest Holmes.” (27:22)

Timestamps for Major Segments

• Giants Injury Fallout: 04:18–07:17
• Waivers: Tyrone Tracy & Dowdle: 05:42–09:32
• Breece Hall/Isaiah Davis Debate: 10:20–13:32
• Guillotine/Dynasty Strategy: 13:36–16:33
• RB Timeshares (Henderson/Harvey): 16:33–18:09
• Main Takeaways: 19:53–23:17
• Moments of the Week: 26:25–32:02
• Fact or Fiction Rapid Fire: 32:51–42:23
• 3-1-1 Picks: 43:20–46:49

Energy, Chemistry & Style

This "Out of Bounds" edition is relaxed and deeply conversational, delivering sharp, often humorous insights with authentic chemistry. Joking banter, relatable analogies (the “escalator of sadness,” “Walmart version of Cowboys,” and fictitious “Italian Minute”), and pop culture riffs make this a thoroughly engaging listen.

Conclusion

Action Items for Listeners:

• Aggressively target Tyrone Tracy on waivers but with volume caution.
• Hold Isaiah Davis, monitor Jets RB moves closely.
• Seek out downtrodden assets like Rico Dowdle as buy-lows.
• Prepare for the Giants’ offense to stagnate.
• Give a tilt to Egbuka over Odunze, and be ready to sell Ke’Shawn Boutte in dynasty.
• Always consider defensive matchups—Niners and Steelers both ripe for exploitation.

For more twists, laughs, serious fantasy advice, and bold predictions, catch every weekly Out of Bounds as the season heats up!