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Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Welcome in everybody to fantasy pros. This is the fantasy football podcast. It is me, Joey P, Joe P. Zapia. And it's time to look ahead to the waiver wire for Week 6 in the NFL. And of course, Week 5 brought a whole host of running back injuries and issues and a lot of running backs were picked up. Some of them were picked up and played against me by Derrick Brown, Rico Dowdle. Look, you see this? I want you to read between the lines between these fingers. Right here, buddy. Right here, pal. Ridiculous 201 yards rushing.
Debro
Flex leak for that blame flex league. They let me get him for three bucks. Don't know why, but it happened.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right. Anyway, Pat Fitz Morris, Derek Brown joining us here to help pick up whatever's left on the waiver wire. And there are some things, it's not the heaviest bye week this week, so that is good news. But Pat, we keep on losing running backs at an alarming rate. And Pat, I don't, you know, there's, there's one of the all time great, great films of our generation, a little movie called Basketball. And I remember there's a great line where he says, if you guys keep ripping on me, I don't know, like 20 or 30 more times, I swear I'm gonna walk out. I'm just not gonna hang out with you guys anymore. And I feel like that's pretty much the Ramandre Stevenson thing about fumbling. You know what if you fumble, like, I don't know, 20 or 30 more times, your job might be in jeopardy. Do you get that sense? Maybe 20 or 30 more?
Pat Fitz Morris
Yeah, that was kind of it. And the Chris Collinsworth was just sort of openly talking about how Mike Rabel had said, like, yeah, he's, he's maybe getting close to being in jeopardy of losing time or whatever. And lost another fumble and didn't seem to matter. No, there he was scoring touchdowns later in the game, touchdowns that probably should have gone to Drake May.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
But yeah, I'm not going to complain about last night at all. I'm very happy Patriots fan, very happy right there. And look, we've got nobody undefeated, Pat. And only one winless team here, the Jets. So the parody's really setting in here.
Pat Fitz Morris
I was going to say, is this the earliest? The 72 Miami Dolphins have had their champagne toast, like, after week five, and there are no undefeated teams. That seems like it's a good call. Strangely early for there to be no undefeated teams. And who is the best team right now? Like, everyone looks flawed.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
2005, week five. That's the. That's the earliest. We're at a tie. Yeah.
Debro
Wow.
Pat Fitz Morris
20 years ago.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Yeah. That is. That is crazy to think about. I mean, but it's. You're right. Like, who is the best team? Like, I don't know. There's a part of me that's starting to wonder if the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the best team. I'll be honest with you. Like, I kind of feel like the Bucks are pretty good.
Debro
I don't know.
Pat Fitz Morris
Baker.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
We'll see.
Debro
Baker Mayfields, baby.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
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Debro
Oh baby no.
Pat Fitz Morris
The lessons of Malachi Corley have not been picked up by Imari DeMarcado. So we weren't sure how this was going to shake out Joe, because DeMarcado had been active and playing for the Cardinals all year and Carter had not. He was on the practice squad to start the season. But there were some indications that maybe Carter would just slide directly into Trey Benson's starting role, his early down role, and they would keep Dmercado sort of as the passing down back and then pitch in on early downs. And that's pretty much right. What happens like Carter sort of gave the game away in an interview in the lead up to that game where he sort of let it drop that he was going to be the starter, wound up playing 57.4% of the offensive snapshot. As you mentioned Joe, A team high 18 carries, not that efficient or explosive, 51 yards and a touchdown, a long run of seven yards. But Carter also led the Arizona running backs in pass routes, so he had even more of those than Dmercado and had those five catches for 22 yards to add a little PPR value. And like you said, Dmercado just did himself no favors by lollygagging at the end of what should have been a 72 yard touchdown run and then dropping the ball even before a defender could catch up to him and punch it out for him. Just voluntarily gave it up and blew a chance to salt away a game that the Cardinals basically would have had in hand. So you wonder if that's going to affect Dmercado's playing time I know. I just saw a little video clip of Jonathan Gannon blistering Dmercado on the sidelines after that. So right now, Carter does look like a pretty appealing addition. And, you know, they've got a playable matchup against the Colts in week six. So I think if you've got a vacancy at running back and Carter's available in your league, you should definitely go hard after him.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Dbro the lessons of Malachi Corley. Is it A, a new Disney Channel show or B, a new Netflix show about an Amish guy who takes his revenge when someone steals his barn?
Debro
It feels like a partnership opportunity. Are they gonna have crossover of 80 Mitchell?
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Like, crossover? Yeah, yeah.
Debro
Crossover opportunity.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Adonai Mitchell is like a character. Adam Mitchell is definitely a character in the Amish one. Just saying, like, yeah, you know. All right, so let's get your take on Michael Carter. What you saw yesterday. Debro, what do you think about that backfield here and his performance?
Debro
I mean, the performance wasn't amazing, but he was basically Arizona's Rashad White, and that'll play all day, man. He played like Patty was talking about. He was the clear lead back. He's the RB8 right now in PPR scoring for the week. So 23 touches, almost all the goal line work, and he's getting past game utility. Plus the Colts can't stop the run. Yeah, he's gonna be a top 24 running back this week. So plug and play. Flex RB2 moving forward. Dmercado pulling his best ad. Mitchell didn't help his case. I mean, didn't help DeMarcusado's case either. And so do we see Carter play 70% of the snaps, 75% of the snaps moving forward, if that's the case or DeMarcotto's in the doghouse. Yeah, Carter needs to be picked up and played.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Yeah, it was such a weird week last week, too, because we come on, we do the show here, right? We have the Monday night games, and then you have all of a sudden, the Bucky news and. And Benson news. Like, all this, like, it was like the slow drip of injuries, Chuba Hubbard news. And then, like, you know, we're looking around and we say, what the hell's going on here? You know, like, all of a sudden, they just. Every day we lost or every hour, it seemed like we were losing another running, and we've got more that we lost this week. We're going to get to those, and we are going to get to get some guys less rostered. So let's start with that conversation, too, because I think the big topic on everybody's brain is going to be, now that Amari and Hampton's in a walking boot, how serious is this injury? Is it just a, you know, oh, he's wearing the walking boot now just to stabilize everything. He's going to be all right. But typically, the walking boot is not a good sign. So that means you got two free squares in that backfield. You got Hassan Haskins left in the Chargers backfield, and Kamani Vidal. Now, Haskins has a history with hardball at Michigan, so to me, that would be the guy, quote unquote, that I would lean towards of these two. Both these guys are, you know, 99 available, right? They are free squares everywhere. Rightfully so. But, dbro, let's say you want to try to get ahead of the game here a little bit. Do you have a lean here? I don't think any of us would know exactly how this would split up, but it feels to me at least like Haskins would be the guy that you'd want, especially, like, for the goal line carries. But what are your thoughts?
Debro
Yeah, I think that I. It's Haskins for me, and it's more just. I mean, he's a big back. He's probably gonna have the goal line role. Vidal has already shown that. You know, we saw also what he didn't do last year, and so I don't think that he's gonna just rise to prominence now, but I'd put in waivers for both these guys, like, just kind of spraying the board. Two to three dollar bids for both of them. Whoever you get. And if we're wrong with this situation, because again, we all saw what happened with Arizona. Like, part of the fantasy community was like, oh, it's Amari D. Mercado, and it was all Michael Carter. So we could be wrong with this situation. So I think you put in, like, not men bids, but close to it for both these guys. Whoever you get, you get. But if I got to pick a favorite out of it, it's Haskins, and it's gross, guys. But if Amari and Hampton misses the next two weeks, the schedule is fantastic.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
I mean, that was my point, too. Yeah, Colts. Yeah. Next two weeks.
Debro
So, I mean, those are great matchups.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
And it feels like, typically speaking. Right. I mean, when they use the words, like the official words, where he could miss some time. All right, that's at least a week here, Pat. So if we're looking for streaming running backs, obviously, you know, right now, when we're looking at the bye weeks. You've got Houston and Minnesota. So no Jordan Mason. You lose Chubb, you lose Woody Mark. So Those are the RBs you're kind of, you know, out of luck with. But do you have any, you know, like here of these Charger guys considering the upcoming schedule and how aggressive do you want to be on them with your fab. I mean DBRO saying look, a couple bucks, let's not go crazy. But that might not be an option for some people the way the running back rooms have gone after week five. Right.
Pat Fitz Morris
And these two players are widely available on waivers. I think Vidal is maybe 1% rostered and Haskins is 0% rostered in Yahoo. Or maybe it's vice versa. I can't remember. The only problem is I think this is going to be a split and we saw both of These guys play 14 snaps yesterday behind Omari and Hampton. And I do tend to agree that Haskins is first in line. He was the guy who broke camp with the team and made the opening day roster. Does have that history with Harbaugh ran for 1300 plus yards and 20 touchdowns in his final college season at Michigan. But then again, I can't remember What Haskins exact 40 time was at the combine is, but I want to say it was like in the 4.65 to 4.70 range. Like that Sundial. Sundial Patty, exactly. And so he's not really going to be able to conduct much business outside on the edges. So if you want to attack that part of the field like I think Kamani Vidal is your guy. Videl also has the better pass catching history and look, Kamani Vidal is Troy University's all time leading runner. I know things didn't really pan out for him last year and there were a lot of people including me who really liked him and just were, you know, it was unrequited love for Kamani Vidal.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Both of you guys were always Vidal stands.
Pat Fitz Morris
So I believe in second chances and we see second acts happen all the time. Look at Sam Darnold dealing and dueling with Baker Mayfield yesterday. So maybe we see Fidel come to life a little bit. But I tend to agree with Debro. Like I just don't think because of the ambiguity and how this backfield is going to be split that you can really make a big spend on either guy. I think it's probably best to try to keep it in the 5%.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Haskins ran a 45740 just no, that's.
Pat Fitz Morris
Faster than I thought it was I thought it was over 4 6, so. All right. Apologies to Hassan.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Well, I mean, it was pretty close to 4 6. It's almost as close as you can get to 46 before being 4 6. All right, let's talk about another guy who has yet to play, Burchard Smith, who we've heard a lot of rumors that we're gonna get him the ball more now. We'll see on Monday night if that happens. And just for clarity, we talked about this guy last week to add him to get ahead of things because it's so much better to slip somebody in the waiver wire there for buck or two and have on your roster, and then if they hit, you've saved yourself a lot of fab. Now, obviously, as recording this whenever you're listening to it, you might have missed that opportunity. So we don't know what the performance is. We don't know what the health is coming out of Monday Night Football. But let's just talk about him theoretically right now, Burchard Smith, we all still think that he's a guy that I think you should be adding into your rosters, even if it's another quiet night. Just because Pacheco's look very mid, Kareem Hunt has looked old. And every time Smith touches the football path, it feels like he's got a little juice, he's got a little bit of explosiveness in there. And I think that's something that this team needs at this point too, as they've continued to turn this corner here before this matchup with the Jags tonight.
Pat Fitz Morris
Yeah, Brashard Smith does have sub 44 speed. I think he was a 439 guy, dual run catch ability, had 1659 yards from scrimmage and 18 touchdowns in his final college season at SMU. Maybe he can give the Chiefs backfield the electricity it's been missing. Because right now Isaiah Pacheco is averaging 4 yards per carry, has not had a run of more than 12 yards this season, and hasn't rushed for more than 45 yards in any game. And his backfield platoon partner Kareem Hunt's 3.2 yards per carry long run of 11 yards. So this backfield could definitely use more juice. And there has been a little bit of chatter about Smith possibly getting more work in the weeks to come.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
And just for the record, his 40 time, 439. So there you go, the 439 for Burchard DBRO. Real quick, your thoughts on Smith. Obviously, we all know anything could happen tonight in the Game could be good, could be bad, could be nothing, could be injured. But again, in theory, when the show comes out, hopefully, you know, Monday afternoon here, people get a jump. But if he's still out there, stash him. Right. Just in case he has that big game. Because look at what happened with Willie Marks two weeks ago, right? Yeah. We said stash him. If you didn't listen, you end up costing yourself some fab. So I feel like this is another one of those situations where like, let's just get ahead of the curve if it doesn't work out. Okay, cool. You've still got a guy here in the next couple weeks that could have a lot of value.
Debro
He's got the most juice in the backfield. He's the most talented guy on that roster. As far as the running back room, like there's going to come a moment with Andy Reid. They got to do something about this backfield. Whether it's I, I don't think they go out and trade for somebody. So if that's not the case, Bashar Smith wheels up like the floor in his role moving forward could be Jarrett McKinnon. The ceiling is that he's the next Pacheco. All both of those outcomes could easily happen this year. Either way, you're looking at a guy that could turn into a PPR flex machine on a pass first offense or he becomes a stable RB2. Why is that not an upside swing? You're taking in every roster that you got.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right, let's talk about two running backs here again that are kind of now thrust into backup roles but a little bit more prominent because the guys who are getting hurt ahead of them. So Isaiah Davis of the New York jets roster in 13% of leagues. Sean Tucker obviously got elevated because you know of the situation here with Bucky Irving. But Rashad White was clearly the guy that you wanted to have in fantasy. He is 17% roster. Debro. Any interest in rostering either of these two guys here going forward? Again, just speculating, you know, Breece hall had some more fumble issues. That's not great. I don't know if that's going to make a pivot to Isaiah Davis necessarily. And Sean Tucker again, I think would take another injury or some other issue here where you have Rashard White going down for him to really be fantasy relevant. But any interest in just buying these guys as insurance?
Debro
Absolutely. Isaiah Davis needs to be rostered in every single league. He's the direct handcuff to Breeze hall right now and on a run first offense and honestly Per touch wise, I thought Isaiah Davis should have won the RB2 role. I know Patty loves Braylon Allen. I've never been a huge fan, but now he's got the Runway. He's a direct handcuff. He needs to be rostered. People need to pick him up.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Pat, how about you? Isaiah Davis, Sean Tucker, Any interest in these two running backs before we go to the next guy?
Pat Fitz Morris
Yeah, with Braylon Allen out for two months plus, at least there is handcuff value to Isaiah Davis for sure. And only one carry. Did have three catches in week five, but actually played 33 snaps, so he was out there quite a bit. I don't think he has any standalone value, but handcuff value, Absolutely. Tucker, I don't know. He only played 21.3% of the snaps Sunday against the Seahawks. The Buccaneers just pretty much used Rashad White as a workhorse, and look, the offense was humming with him in there. They scored 38 points. Plus, Bucky Irving might not be out too long, so I don't know that Tucker is worth adding.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right, another just quick shout out to. I want to remind Everybody that Christian McCaffrey has 130 touches already, and we are through five weeks of the season. I just want to point that out there. That's also 20 more than the next guy, Jonathan Taylor. So that's. That's. That's a whole game's worth, basically, that. You also have. On top of that, Brian Robinson Jr. Is rostered in 59 of leagues over on sleeper, so you could see him getting dropped a lot of places potentially. I'm sure in some other formats, he's even less rostered. I think Brian Robinson's another one of these guys, too. It might be a good idea at some point. I. I would have thought last week on the short week, you would have seen a lot more of him, but instead it was like, no, it's all the Christian McCaffrey you could possibly handle because this is such a huge game here for the Rams. So there you go. That was the game plan, and it worked out right? Eventually the 49ers worked out and they covered and won me money, so I'm happy with them. So when you're looking at Brian Robinson, I think there's another guy worth stashing. Just want to throw that out there to everybody. Let's talk about some guys possibly worth dropping, too. Bashel Tutin and then Trey Benson. Two guys here. Benson's gonna be out for a while with the way Carter played. Pat, would you just drop Benson at this point, if you only had like one IR spot and you had somebody else on there that might be more valuable?
Pat Fitz Morris
Only if I had a very short bench. I think Benson is dealing with a meniscus injury and I know Dr. Deepak Chona who makes regular appearances on us our Sunday night recap show says it's typically a five week injury and there's usually a pretty short ramp up period for players upon their return. Typically just a week or two until they're back to their normal selves. So Benson is still going to have value. You could have regrets if you drop him and then he's out there in week 12 getting 20 touches a game.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Okay. For you, Bashel Tutin. I know he plays a little later here tonight, but obviously, you know, I think everybody's still excited about him. Is that a guy worth dropping though at this point too, with all this running back turnover where you're looking for guys who might be more active in terms of touches going forward than weeks ahead.
Debro
Dbro, I mean, he's got a handcuff value. So it just depends on your parsing through handcuffs and which one you want to prioritize. I mean the talent. I mean to me it's like do you want facial tootin? You want Isaiah Davis on the town? I'd rather tootin.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Okay. That was my, that was actually gonna be my question. So that's. He'd rather have between the two of them. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. All right, before we get to the wide receivers here, don't forget, Hard Rock BET is the sponsor of the show. And it's Monday. Week five is concluding here with Kansas City Chiefs playing Jacksonville. And you can listen to the streak right here at Hard Rock BET Stats hub. And check out all the stats you can find, live odds and bet this one right here. Kareem Hunt, they say is a sleeper all the way down. Number 34 in the Fans Bros consensus rankings. And if you want to bet on him to score a touchdown, Hunt has done so in six straight October games. So if you haven't tried yet, get your first bet over on hard rock bet. There's still plenty of time. You get 150 in bonus bets if you win when you place your first bet of five bucks. If it hits, you get your winnings, you get 150 extra bonus bets. It's a fantastic deal you can't pass up. Plus tonight on Hard Rock Bet, you can get a Monday night parlay boost for the games. Boost your parlay so it pays extra winnings and there's new promos every single day. And if you're listening to this later, just open the app and check out what is in store for you today. But you can only do that if you download the Hard Rock Bet app. Payable and Bonus Bets Not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in Florida Offered by Seminole Hard Rock Digital, LLC and other states must be 21 and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indian, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia. To play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call 1888 admit it in Indiana. If you or somebody you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-809 with it gambling problem, call 1-800- gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois and New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia if you smoke or dip, I'm going to give you a few good reasons to try Zinn Zyn Nicotine Pouches first, it's America's number one nicotine pouch brand, and Zyn offers a robust rewards program. There's a lot of options for nicotine satisfaction, but there's only one Zyn. So if you go to zyn.com find that's z y-n.com find to find Zyn at a store near you. This product does contain nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.
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Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
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Debro
I mean, that. That's a great question to have, Joe. I mean, and I don't know, I don't know when we see Ricky Pearson, Juwan Jennings, I mean, I would like to say up this upcoming week, but if you were to tell me the 49ers need to hold them out another week, I'm not going to be that surprised. Juwan Jennings has been banged up the entirety of the year. So even if Jennings doesn't come back but Pierce all does, Bourne is still going to be in the starting lineup. And looking what he did last week, I mean, a 22 target share, nobody was forecasting 142 receiving yards. I'm not saying that. But the thing about it, if both of those guys are out this week, Kendrick Bourne is what, a wide receiver? Three guys going up against a Buccaneers defense that just got shredded by Sam Darnold. They were down Jamel Dean, Benjamin Morrison. I don't know if either one of those guys are back this week. So Bourne could be in that wide receiver three flex conversation for this week.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
It was a huge performance by Jones, a huge performance by Bourne. And that. That's dangerous sometimes, Pat. Right, because we look at that and say, oh my God. Like we know who Kendrick Bourne is. He's been around the league for a while. He's been on multiple teams. It's a system, though. And the 49er system, you know, can yield a lot of good fantasy points. So how do you approach him with fab budget this week, Pat? Because I know this is probably what I think one of the more complex ones we're going to ask ourselves this day.
Pat Fitz Morris
It certainly depends on need. And the more urgent the need, I think the more you should be willing to spend because, like, if you need him to play this week against the Buccaneers. As Debro said, it's a pretty promising looking matchup. I think he might be worth going up to 8, 9, 10, something like that. And maybe there's a chance Bourne could have some sustained value because really Ricky Pearsall and Juwan Jennings have not been fully healthy for a while. Like we are getting these whack a mole injuries to the 49ers pass catchers and we have to throw George Kittle in there too, who's working his way back from the hamstring thing. Bourne has been a useful player for a really long time. He just hasn't been good enough to be a leading man long term. But maybe Bourne is good enough to produce leading man results short term if he's cast into a leading role. Kind of like the John C. Reilly of wide receivers. Joe, like John C. Reilly was this terrific character actor who always elevated the movies he was in, it's true. But then he got a leading role in Heart 8. Have you ever seen that movie?
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Oh, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pat Fitz Morris
Highly recommended. And you realize that John C. Reilly could be a leading man when called upon. So maybe Kendrick Bourne is the John C. Reilly of wide receivers.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Don't touch my drum set. That's my John C. Reilly. That's the best thing I got there. It's like I'm trying to think. I saw Frank Caliendo was talking about how to do a John C. Reilly imitation. Like the two things you put together, and it was like, oh my God, see, what's a Randy Newman? You kind of take Randy Newman, he's doing it and you make it like Kermit the Frog and you gotta put them together at the same time. And he was like, that's really funny. Like, that's how he was. Like, that's totally John c. Reilly. You're 100, right? Kendrick Bourne, by the way, 15 roster on sleeper. So a lot of people kicking themselves Thursday night for not picking them up and streaming him, I'm sure. Especially as more injuries started to unleash themselves on Friday and Saturday. Let's talk about Tori Horton. 30% of his receptions this year, he's got nine of them have gone for touchdowns. Could have been even more. He dropped one last week. So I know it's tough to chase touchdowns here, but Pat Torrey Horton is a guy that Sam Darnold's looking for in the red zone every single week. So in standard leagues especially, he's got a lot of value and a lot of potential there to give you some Points. He is also only 15% rostered. What stands before him and more playing time still just Cooper Kopp, who is not the Cooper cup of old. So I'm still kind of surprised, especially this week where there were so many injuries and so many teams on by with so many guys missing that this roster percentage didn't jump up at all for Torrey Horton, basically. So what do you make of Torrey Horton going forward to. Is there room for him to grow in the weeks ahead and start being more of the other outside guy and getting more time, or is he just pretty much this red zone threat for Seattle?
Pat Fitz Morris
There is room for him to grow in the years ahead. And I like Torrey Horton as a dynasty asset, but he only played in about half the snaps in Seattle's game against the Buccaneers, only ran about half as many routes as Jackson Smith and Jigba and Cooper Cup. So, yeah, it's just not enough of a role for anyone to add him and ever feel good about putting Torrey Horton in your starting lineup. Plus, we're seeing all of a sudden Sam Darnold getting the tight ends really involved, especially AJ Barner, but also a little bit of Elijah Arroyo too. So right now I just, I think Torrey Horton might be the Nick Westbrook Akine of 2025.
Debro
Yeah.
Pat Fitz Morris
And like, I just, I don't want to chase that.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
That's so much more talented, so much better.
Pat Fitz Morris
Much more for sure. And like, has a bright future and could turn into something much greater than he is now. But this just isn't short term production. I want to chase.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right, how about you, D, bro? You want, you want to chase the. Like, it's short term production, but man, every week it's production.
Debro
I'm smart right now, dude.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
I.
Debro
That is literally what I had written down. Like Pat's reading off my sheet. I was gonna make the, the NWI comparison here and Pat already made it for me.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
But that was annoying that year because everyone kept saying it can't sustain a can't sustain and they kept doing it for another 10 weeks. So you know what? Like, honestly, if that's what he is this year and he's got more talent and it's only Cooper cup stopping him, then maybe the answer should be, yeah, you know what? For a buck or two, stash him on your roster and yeah, and see what happens over time.
Debro
People need to be stashing him only for the contingent upside. Like, what scares me about Seattle and Pat laid this out. I mean, Horton has not been a full time player and he's really been relying upon not volume, but just touchdowns. But it's the contingent upside if Cooper cup were to go down. And that's what I think is most appealing about Horton. If the other thing about Seattle, like if they were. They do not want to throw the ball at all unless they are forced to. But Sam Darnold's per dropout metrics are fantastic this year. So if they. If anything happened, they get defensive injuries or Cooper cup goes down. Horton could be a guy we're talking about as a weekly flex play. So, yeah, he's worth a pickup up.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right, let's talk about the next guy here on our list, Isaiah Bond. He got a lot of targets and catch a lot of them, but it was Dylan Gabriel's first start. But look, Dylan Gabriel, you know, was. Was competitive in that football game. So good moments, some not so good moments. That's what you expect from rookie QB play. Tough spot too, against the Vikings defense. But Isaiah Bond, 26 rostered, and I feel like this is an evolution. Derek of the Cleveland Browns, I think they're kind of remaking themselves in front of our eyes very quietly. Fannin looks like he could be a player. Judkins is absolutely a player. He's explosive. Isaiah Bond is explosive. I feel like all of a sudden now, you know, Dylan Gabriel being more mobile in the pocket gives them the ability to extend plays potentially and, and, you know, make some more dynamic athletic moments happen than Joe Flacco could. So with all that being said, what are your thoughts on Isaiah Bond still being out there in 75 of leagues, is that somebody you want on your roster as a wide receiver for rest of season? And who knows, maybe Jerry Judy is a guy that can get dealt at some point too and really open up some more space here for Isaiah Bond.
Debro
I'm not interested in Bond as far as like full season upside, just because I don't know how much I really want to be buying into the Cleveland Browns passing attack and their offense in general outside of quinch on Judkins. But what I will say about Isaiah Bond is he's in the same area code as Kendrick Bourne. Like, if you need a flex play over the next two weeks, maybe three weeks, that's where I have more interest in Isaiah Bond because the upcoming matchups are fantastic. Like the Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Steelers secondary is terrible. The Miami Dolphins can't stop anybody. The Patriots have had their own issues and Bond is kind of sitting in that like 19 to 20% target range. So if he scores a touchdown any One of those games against bad secondaries, then he's going to be a really good flex play. So if you have a need because of buy weeks over the next like two to three weeks for especially in deeper formats. Yeah, Bonds were the pickup.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
So Pat, is Bond a guy that you like or is it like Tori Horton? You said that's much more interesting for you for Dynasty than is for Redraft.
Pat Fitz Morris
That's kind of it. I just, it's hard to get excited about any of the Browns pass catchers when they have a third round rookie at quarterback. And Dylan Gabriel was decent against the Vikings on Sunday. I thought he equated himself pretty well. And Isaiah Bond did have twice as many targets as Jerry Judy. Six for Bond, three for Judy. But then again, Brown's tight ends out targeted Browns receivers 13 to 10 in that game, which is not a great sign going forward for the Browns receivers.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Yeah, it's a good sign. If you have in Joku and Fanin though, that.
Pat Fitz Morris
Yes.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right, let's talk about Luke McCaffrey who made a big splashy touchdown catch there, 8% rostered. Pat again, he's given a guy. He's kind of been on the periphery now for a couple weeks now that Jaden Daniels is back. Is he a sneaky AD this week.
Pat Fitz Morris
Kind of a slow burn with him? The, the only issue, Joe, is that he played 39% of the offensive snaps against the Chargers on Sunday and that was with Terry McLaurin out. So when Terry McLaren comes back, it's hard to see McCaffrey doing much of anything.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
So is that a pass for you to debro on McCaffrey? Because I'm sure a lot of people are going to start to look at that and start to wonder is this a guy worth rostering? And I guess the question is, is he?
Debro
He's not. Sadly he's not. Only because he's not getting enough playing time. Like they're splitting the the role between him and Jalen Lane as far as getting on the field. And in two games, the last two games with without McLaren there, that's where you would expect like if LMC is going to play a full time role, that's where we should have seen it and it's just not happening. So I'm avoiding him.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right, you like playing time. How about a guy who is getting a lot of playing time also scored two touchdowns yesterday. He's also zero percent rostered. How about Xavier Hutchinson? Let's talk about him. I'm sure people are going to chase this now, look, I know we all love Jaden Higgins. I get it. But you're talking about guys on the field. Hutchinson's a guy on the field. The Texans starting to pull themselves out of their tailspin. A huge ass kicking performance of the Baltimore Ravens. By the way, did someone do a wellness check on Worm? I don't know if anybody checked in on him, see if he's okay, but dbro, let. Let's ask this question here. Xavier Hutchinson, is he worth a couple bucks here? Is he going to be the guy and Jaden Higgins is going to just sit out his freshman year in the NFL?
Debro
I. I just can't see the ability. I can't see this continuing for the rest of the season. And Outside of the two touchdowns, Hutchinson hasn't surpassed 30 receiving yards in any game. I mean, I would love to sit here because I loved him as a prospect. I would love to write a bull case for Xavier Hutchinson. I just don't see it. I think eventually this has to change. Houston has to get their most talented guys and their rookies on the field. So Hutch, I just can't throw the.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Fab away for all right to that point. This is their bye week. So, Pat, is this the time to add Jalen Noel? Is this the time to add Jaden Higgins? Because they're coming out of the buy. Could the rookie start to take over instead of chasing Hutchinson? Should people be looking at stashing those guys instead?
Pat Fitz Morris
I wouldn't mind stashing any of those because if you have ample roster space, but you just can't expect that playing time is imminent for these guys. So it's frustrating. I just. I think probably for the foreseeable future, Nico Collins is going to be the only fantasy viable wide receiver in Houston.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right, let's talk about whether or not these guys are viable. There's some rumors that CD Lamb, remember he never went on to the ir, that he could actually be back next week. Jalen Tolbert, Z a drop for you before that even happens here to make some room for these guys here, Pat?
Pat Fitz Morris
Yes. No. No targets or one target. No targets, maybe. And that was with not only Lamb, but also Kevante Turpin out. So, yeah, you can dump Tolbert now.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Malik Washington was a guy DBRO a lot of people were chasing last week after the Tyree Kill injury. I feel like we tried to warn people that might not be the best idea. But would you drop him if you picked him up last week?
Debro
It depends on who you're dropping him for. If I'd be dropping him for say Kendrick, Bourne or somebody. I needed to be as a flex play. Yes.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
What about Bond and Horton?
Debro
Bond? Yes, because the matchups and he's getting full time playing Horton. It's a conversation to talent and who do you believe in more? I would go Horton. So all three of those guys? Yes. I'd be dropping them for him.
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Debro
It's Mason Taylor than Waller and Theo Johnson only because of the constitution of the quarterbacks. Playing time, stuff like that. Talent like Waller had a monster game, and he.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
He.
Debro
I think his route share continues to jump. But Mason Taylor is the guy that has lead the conversation.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Patty. We talked about it last week.
Debro
We talked about it in the waiver wire article. I did my best sell job, and still his roster Percentage is at 13%.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Like at tight end, where everybody needs a tight end. That. So, Pat, how would you rank those three tight ends in your book for the rest of the season?
Pat Fitz Morris
Same way dbrow has him, Taylor, Waller second, and Johnson third.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
I mean, Taylor's the number two right, in this jets offense right now, period, right?
Pat Fitz Morris
It appears that way, yeah. I mean, he has had, over the last two weeks, 21 targets and 14 catches.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Nice.
Pat Fitz Morris
That's.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
That's pretty good. We'll think. We'll take that. I picked him up in our. In our company league, too, last week because I need a tight end, so. Go Mason Taylor. See, I listen to D, bro. Good things. All right? Now, let's get to the streamers here. Fitzy, why don't you give me a streaming QB for Week 6 in the NFL? Who you want to start with?
Pat Fitz Morris
Bryce Young. He gets the Dallas Cowboys. I know Bryce Young has only topped 200 passing yards in one of his five starts, but the matchup is just delicious. Like, Cowboys are giving up 304 passing yards a game, 8.4 yards per pass attempt, giving up 12 touchdown passes. Yeah. So you're. You're targeting the Dallas defense with your streaming quarterbacks, if you can.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right, streaming QB for week six. D, bro. Who do you have?
Debro
Good lord. I didn't want to say his name, but I. I want to preface this. Oh, with streaming. Quarterback is disgusting. It is gross. It is horrible. This week, like, everybody 50 and under.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Don'T say Geno Smith. If you're gonna say Geno Smith, I'm gonna take you right off the show. I'm not saying these other guys.
Debro
Guys, I'm not gonna do that.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
I don't think it's gonna be hot take, hot take. I think Kenny Pickett replaces him this week. I do.
Pat Fitz Morris
It could happen.
Debro
Well, it's possible.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
I don't think we get. All right, so if you're saying Geno Smith, you better have a second one just in case that scenario I laid out happens, because I think there's a real chance you don't get Gino Smith. But Patty got to the sheet before me. Let's just say Bryce Young, so we.
Debro
Can just say Bryce Young. I don't really want to say Geno, guys.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Just. You want to make money. Just bet Geno Smith ints over every single week. It's just, it's money in the bank. You get a Wentz pick, you get a, you get a Geno pick parlay. This is beautiful.
Debro
I don't even want to make the case for Gino. Like it's, it's a gross case. I feel like I need a shower right now.
Pat Fitz Morris
You could start Spencer Rattler in a pinch this week against the Patriots maybe.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Well, Pat, what about Mac Jones again too? If he should start again this week? I feel like in that game against Tampa, like I would think Matt Jones would be a guy maybe over both of these that he just looks, man, 49ers are a system and Mac Jones fits in that system. That's the guy he wanted the first place. And I, and I, I, everybody laughed when I said you could have a quarterback controversy at some point in time in San Francisco because Mac Jones is going to fit real well in the system. And don't look now, boys and girls. I mean, what's the difference between Mac Jones and Brock Purdy besides draft capital, right?
Pat Fitz Morris
Like, no, I mean, but like Purdy's pretty good and I was, trust me, I was a big Brock Purdy doubter early in his career. And I thought he kind of picked on the bad defenses, but I think he's a good quarterback. And now that's the only reason why we didn't include him in this week's waiver article. Joe. Like, like purdy has had 10 days to rest because they played that Thursday night game or will have had 10 days by the time they play again. So we just, yeah, there's no guarantee Mac Jones is, is starting.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
I don't know if I'm Kyle Shanahan. I'm like, oh, Brock, take your time. We want you to be healthy, buddy. Let's take your time. Don't push it.
Pat Fitz Morris
That was, that was an impressive performance. The way like he just kept, they kept having to almost drag him off the field because he kept taking these shots and he was dry coming back.
Debro
From coming off the field, but somebody.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Gave him a banana. That was the funniest thing too, that. Did you guys catch that on social media? You know you've made it when someone hands you a pre peeled banana. All right, let's get to the tight ends to stream this week. Fitzy. Do I have to even ask?
Pat Fitz Morris
Mason Taylor.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
There we go. Let's go.
Pat Fitz Morris
Mason Taylor gets Denver matchup against Denver. Not super great, but hey, he's the number two target in the jets passing game.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Yeah, 100%. All right, Dbro, how about you streaming tight end for this week?
Debro
I'm gonna go Bryn Strange. And it's all the matchup. Seattle entered week five giving up the most fantasy points per game to tight ends. So it's just. It's playing on the matchup.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Next up, streaming defense. D. Bro, who do you have?
Debro
I'm. I'm gonna be the Packers. Homer here. Green Bay is available. They're only rostered in 44 of leagues. And they get the Cincinnati Bengals, the Fighting Jake Brownings, the pickoff machines. Let's go.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right. How about you, Fitzy? Streaming defense this week?
Pat Fitz Morris
Yeah. If you can't get the packers, maybe settle for your Patriots Joe, who played pretty well against Josh Allen and the Bills Sunday night. And going against Spencer Rattler, like, Rattler's done a good job of avoiding turnovers and big plays. You know, kept interceptions kind of to a minimum. But like, it's still the Saints. Sorry, it is.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
And that defense, you're not wrong, Patty, that defense is much different. When Christian Gonzalez is back in healthy and he saw it last night. When he's back, it's like this weird confidence boost. Everybody around and they were physical last night, too, which is good because, like, that's what you want them. You starting to sound like, like it's a new unit with a lot of different guys. You know, it's a lot of free agents. I think it takes a while for a group to jail. They were physical last night. If that carries over, that's very good, too. And the healthy Christian Gonzalez made a big difference. All right, let's talk about kickers because we have to. Fitzy, give me a kicker for this week.
Pat Fitz Morris
How about Chris Boswell? One of the things I like about Boswell as a kicker, like, you would think Jake Bates would be this awesome kicker because of how much the Lions score. But like Dan Campbell spits on the ground at the thought of kicking a field goal, he'll just go for it on 4th and 5 at the 33 yard line. But Mike Tomlin, like, yeah, I'll. Let's. Let's kick the 50 yard field goal. Tomlin appreciates the value of three points. And something tells me in this matchup between the Steelers and the Browns this week, the value of three points is going to be significant. And Mike Tomlin will not mind kicking a few field goals with Chris Boswell.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right, Debro, who's the kicker for you?
Debro
Going back to the Packers? Well, it provides Brandon Manus. He scored nine or more points in three or four games. So I think the packers offense is going to be able to move the ball at will against the Bengals.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
All right, remember everybody, Waiver Central is the tool@fantasypros.com they can help you make all the right decisions. So go to fantasypros.com myplaybook or just download the Fantasy Pros app. Sync your leagues for free. Did I mention it's free everybody? And you can look at the suggestion for every single league, for every single claim that you want to make here potentially to add to any roster. Again, Waiver Central Central is there to help you make the right decisions. Who to drop, who to add. Let Waiver Central help you and let the boys help you too with their top five waiver claims of the week. Fitzy, why don't you start us off with your top five for week six.
Pat Fitz Morris
Michael Carter, if he's available in your league is number one Mason Taylor number two. I'll say Kenneth Gainwell, who's still available in more than half of yahoo leagues coming off the buy. Maybe Jalen Warren is back, probably is back this week. But but Gainwell I think maybe enhanced his role going forward with that excellent performance in Ireland against the Vikings a couple of weeks ago. Prashard Smith is number four. I think it's just a matter of time before he gets more involved and it might be the same for my number five Kyle Menon guy coming off the by and occasionally we see rookies get a little bit of a usage surge coming off bye weeks and DeAndre Swift just hasn't been very effective as a runner this season.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
I mentioned him at the tail end of the show I just did with Jake to the short form which you can watch on the YouTube channel too. I said hey guys, don't forget you're going to sort stats and you're not going to see Common on guy from last week because he didn't play because he was on a buy just in case. The touchdown really masked a very ugly performance from DeAndre Swift in that game so you could see a little bit of a change in that backfield potentially. I was against potential but again Adam on the quiet all right, dbro, give us your top five for week six.
Debro
Fitzy and I are hand holding on a lot of these. Michael Carter number one, Mason Taylor two. I'm pumping up Burchard Smith just was the upside with him with number to number three, Gainwell is four and I'm gonna stay Kendrick Bourne in here because I know people could be hurting for flex plays at my number five.
Joey P (Joe P. Zapia)
Okay, there you go. That's the top five for everybody. Still doing it the old school way. And don't forget, weekly Waiver wire live stream is going to be here tomorrow, Tuesday, 3pm Eastern. Debra and I are going to take you through the waiver wire because I'm sure after tonight's game we're gonna have more issues, more guys available, more guys we're going to want to talk about. I'm sure waiver wire feels like an everyday occurrence these days in the NFL because they're dropping like flies and it's only the 6th of October. Crazy stuff here, but great, great insights here from the guys. Derrick Brown, Pat Fitz, Morris. Make sure you check out the waiver wire column on fantasypros.com as well. Always great information there. And the waiver wire ranks are there. The tools are there. Don't be a tool, download the app. And of course, don't forget to subscribe to the channel. Like this video. Drop your comments because you could win the wall smack from Trophy Smack. That'll do it for us. But the story of the game goes on. For Derek Brown and Pat Fitzmaurice, I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time, kids. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football podcast. If you love the show, the best.
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Episode 1756 | October 7, 2025 | Hosts: Joey P (Joe P. Zapia), Pat Fitzmaurice, Derrick Brown (Debro)
This episode is dedicated to actionable fantasy football advice as league managers turn from Week 5’s carnage—full of running back injuries—to proactive Week 6 waiver wire moves. Joey P, Pat Fitzmaurice, and Debro break down the best waiver wire pickups at running back, wide receiver, tight end, and streamers for QB, DST, and kicker. They deliver sharp analysis with their trademark humor, providing insights into depth-chart developments, injury fallout, and bargain adds that could pay off big in the coming weeks.
Michael Carter, Arizona Cardinals
Imari DeMarcado
Chargers RBs (Hassan Haskins & Kamani Vidal)
Brashard Smith, Kansas City Chiefs
Isaiah Davis (NYJ), Sean Tucker (TB)
Other Deep RB Stashes
Kendrick Bourne (SF, formerly NEP)
Torrey Horton (SEA)
Isaiah Bond (CLE)
Other Notables
Quarterbacks
Defenses
Tight Ends
Kickers
Pat Fitzmaurice
Derrick Brown
| Position | Name | Rationale | % Rostered (approx.) | Bid Advice | |----------|---------------------|---------------------------------------------|----------------------|-----------------| | RB | Michael Carter | Starting role, volume, PPR utility | 39-59% | Top priority | | RB | Brashard Smith | Explosiveness, upside in KC’s backfield | <10% | Stash/add | | RB | Haskins/Vidal | Free squares for Chargers usage | ~1% | $2-3 bids | | RB | Isaiah Davis | Handcuff to Breece Hall | 13% | Stash | | WR | Kendrick Bourne | Volume/starting role in SF | 15% | 8-10% if needy | | WR | Torrey Horton | Red zone usage, contingent upside | 15% | Stash for depth | | WR | Isaiah Bond | Bye-week streamer, upside matchups | 26% | Stream/flex | | TE | Mason Taylor | Clear target, streaming TE1 | 13% | Add/Stream | | DEF | GB Packers | Prime matchup vs CIN | 44% | Stream | | K | Chris Boswell | Volume kicker for defensive matchup | — | Stream |
This episode is a must-listen for fantasy managers seeking practical, expert-driven advice in the face of a brutal injury cycle. The hosts blend deep analysis with sharp wit, providing clear prioritization for waivers and insightful commentary on every major position. The consensus: now is the time to act decisively on Michael Carter, monitor backfield chaos for cheap RB production, and don’t sleep on short-term flex options like Kendrick Bourne and Mason Taylor. With league champions often forged in the waiver wire grind, follow these moves to stay ahead of your competition.
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