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Fantasy Football Week 9 Waiver Wire: Must-Have Players to Add to Your Roster (Ep. 1801)
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Welcome in, everybody, to fantasy pros. This is the fantasy football podcast. It is me, Joey P. Joe P. Zapia. It's week nine in the NFL. You know what that means. It's time to hit the waiver wire with my two best friends, D Bro, Derek Brown, the king of bros, and my patty cakes, Pat Fitz Morris. We're gonna get you the players you need on your roster here. And we're not quite in stuffing and cuffin season, but. I don't know, Pat. It feels like it might be time to start looking ahead. I know it's not even Halloween yet. Usually this is more of a November theme for Pat Fitz Morris, who loves the confident stuff and can't get enough of it. But, Pat, it feels like maybe this year we should be better served if we start a little bit sooner. Maybe those decorations should come out of the box now. What do you think?
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Derek Brown
We're going to talk about some of those potential handcuffs today, Joe. And, yeah, I do think maybe we beat the stuffing season on some of those cuffs this year. A few weeks. Generally, I don't think that's a good idea. But maybe late October isn't the worst time to handcuff this year.
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Joe P. Zapia
Dbro. I was kicking back, lit a fire outside. It was a beautiful fall day. Had the games outside little red zone, and I was drinking an uncle. Arnie's not a sponsor of the show.
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Joey P.
Not yet.
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Joe P. Zapia
We're trying.
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Joey P.
No, not yet.
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Derek Brown
Not yet.
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Joe P. Zapia
At some point, I kind of, like, turned around and the jets won a football game. Did that happen, or was I just in a really chill, Zen place?
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Joey P.
Well, I mean, technically, they were playing a junior high defense in the Cincinnati Bengals, so let's. Let's give a little bit.
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Joe P. Zapia
Oh, but they were playing with a junior high offense. I think so.
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Joey P.
I mean, that's absolutely fair. And I. I want to push back on this. Look, I went to Lowe's yesterday, and we already have. It's not even Halloween, boys, and we Already got Christmas decorations out. I believe it's full blown stuff in a coven season.
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Joe P. Zapia
I think it is. And like, we all know, like once you get mid October, all the Christmas stuff is out, you know, And I'm fine with it. I'm a Christmas guy. Some people hate that.
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Joey P.
Not me. November 1st, a little early dud.
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Joe P. Zapia
Go now. And you know what? I see a lot of my neighbors put the lights on outside too. That's really smart because now's the time to do it before it gets too damn cold to do it. And you're out there, you're freezing the gallons off and you're trying to hang these lights all over the place outside. This is not like Arizona, you know, I mean, it's one of the places, Jersey, it gets cold out here. All right, everybody, so it's time to give away something for free here on the show. Every single week. We do. And every single week, the production team tasks me with an almost impossible name to say. But this time around, this time around, I feel like I've been heard. So, Brad Weber, congratulations. You're the winner of the fantasy football championship trophy giveaway. Brad Weber. That's easy to say. There you go. It didn't have 5, 000 numbers in it or something that I can't, you know, understand. Is it one word? Is it 12 words? I don't know. But Brad Weber, that's an easy one. Brad, go hit us up@mailbagantasyprose.com with your mailing address, screenshot of your YouTube account, and of course we'll confirm once we get you all that information here. All set up. We will confirm, get that prize shipped out to you right away. So congratulations, Brad Weber. You're the winner of the trophy smack fantasy football championship trophy giveaway. And when one giveaway leaves, another one takes its place. This week, the last place punishment trophy is back. The football loser toilet seat. Ah, yeah, let's go. Courtesy of our good pals at trophy smack, the number one destination for epic fantasy football hardware. This is your moment, everybody. I mean, a golden toilet seat. Hilarious. Football loser toilet seat. You could just, you know, send it to your friends. Send it. Or just put in your own house. It's kind of funny, like if you're the loser of your league just to kind of have that. I'm sure your significant other will absolutely love it. And of course, we want to give this to you. So to enter right now, this might be the best of the giveaways. I'll be honest with you all. You need to do is subscribe to the Fantasy Bros. YouTube channel. Like this video. Drop your comments below. Ring the bell till it goes ding. That's it. That's all you gotta do. And again next week, we'll be announcing the winner right here on the channel. All right, let's get to the real reason we're here, which is to add players here to the waiver wire for our leagues. And unfortunately, we have to start off on a sad note here because Cam's got to boost out for the year. It's just a bummer. I mean, why. Why can't fantasy football be fun this year? Or at least more fun? Cam Scaboo was fun. I really enjoyed Cam Scaboo. You could tell Cam Scaboo is fun and great because even the Eagles fans stood up and gave the slow clap for him. It wasn't like the. It wasn't like Michael Irvin's hurt word jerks. We're cheer. No, no. The Eagles fans respect Cam Scatter Boo. It was a beautiful moment in the link. Shout out to the Eagles fans. Classy move by them. They were touched by the Cam Scatter Boo injury. And also now Tyrone Tracy is touched by it as well. So let's talk about Tyrone Tracy. 35 rostered Dbro. It's the volume game. When it comes to Tyrone Tracy, I think we know what he is. He's a RB2ish kind of guy. He's not going to set the world on fire. He's got some fumble issues, but the volume's going to be there. Singletary might get some work as well, but it's Tyrone Tracy's backfield for the rest of season. But he ain't a Cam Scatter Boo replacement. Not in my heart and not on my fantasy team. But the volume's there and as you like to say, volume can be king sometimes.
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Joey P.
No, absolutely. I mean, look at Tracy. I mean, just, just go back to last year. He's a plug and play RB2 and the schedule upcoming isn't fantastic. Like over the next few weeks, he gets the 49ers, the Bears you can run on. But then he gets the packers, the Lions, the Patriots. Woof. Then they gotta buy like it. I will say after that it does open up because he gets the commanders Vikings and. And the Raiders. So you can run on those teams. But it's the volume play.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah.
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Joey P.
So like if you got him stashed, if he's out there on the wave wire, pick him up. He is a plug and play RB2. If you're in Deeper formats. Pick up Devin Singletary. That's fine if you want to play that game, but I. I think Tracy, we know who he is and that's totally fine, man. Plug and play RB2. Probably top 20 back rest of season.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, I mean, it seems like somewhere around there. Fitzy last yesterday. I should say not last Sunday. Well, I guess it was last Sunday. Technically 10 for 39 for tracing when he stepped in there, averaging 3.9 y per carry. We know what Tracy is. I mean, De Bro kind of laid it out there. He's going to be useful for you. Bye weeks coming up here. Obviously we've got Cleveland out, the Eagles out, the jets out, the Buccaneers out. So no Rashad White, no Bucky Irving. Still, obviously you have no Breeze hall, you have no Saquon, and you have no Judkins. So automatically there Bigsby looks like a plug and play RB2 right away for me.
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Derek Brown
How about you, Tracy? Yeah, so.
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Joe P. Zapia
Oh, I'm sorry. I. I said Bigsby. I meant I was getting ahead of. So slow down, everybody. We'll get to Quan Barkley's groin in just a bit. Just slow your roll. Don't worry. All right, Go ahead. Fat. Talk to me about Tracy.
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Derek Brown
Yeah, so the nice thing is, even in some of those tough run game matchups that Debro outlined against teams like the Packers, Lions and Patriots, Tracy has multiple outs to get you a usable fantasy total in any given week because he catches passes. He's a former college wide receiver, so very capable in that regard. And the Giants are so short on firepower at wide receiver that they have little choice but to lean heavily on their running backs. Now, Cam Scatter Boo had averaged 22 touches a game in the four games leading up to Sunday's game against the Eagles. So Tracy's absolutely going to have a big role. Singletary, yes. Maybe an interesting add in deeper leagues because Singletary is pretty familiar with Brian Dable's system. Singletary played for Dable in Buffalo and Dable was the OC there. So maybe Singletary does take on a little bit of a supporting role here. But yeah, we have evidence that Tracy can be a useful fantasy asset. He was the Giants lead back for much of 2024 and had 1100 yards from scrimmage, six touchdowns. He's worth a big spend. And in this week's waiver article, we listed $35 as a true value bid for Tracy and $45 as the must have bid. Starting to get late in the season, Joe, and the people who still have a lot of Fab money might just decide that this is how they want to spend it.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, and I can understand that. I can understand the aggression on the bid there because it is kind of locked in there. And I think we know what Devin Singletary is obviously at this point in his career too. So I think it's more of a what, 70, 30 kind of split in that backfield, maybe. That seems about right. Yeah. So it's, it's a more imminent value to your fantasy teams. There's no doubt about that. And I think what's also interesting is people are, you know, going crazy bidding for him. Some of the other running backs that might be floating around too, that could also, you know, be guys that you want to stash, which we're going to talk about right now. We're going to talk about some of those players too. And, and one that I want to start with here at the running back position is Taji Spears, 46% rostered. If you held my, you know, feet to the fire, I would have said for sure it was higher than that on sleeper. I would have thought it was in the 60s for sure. So this was kind of surprising. Now, I don't know if that was a byproduct of the last couple weeks of all the injuries, people having to drop people maybe the bye weeks, people needing some streamers, but it felt like with last week's bye week, you should absolutely have been adding a guy like Spears. And what was interesting yesterday is Spears had nine carries, Pollard had 1159 yards for Spears, 44 for Pollard, one touchdown for Spears, and then Spears also had three catches for 23. So he's been working more in the passing game than Pollard was. If you add up all those yards still, it's still less than Jonathan Taylor in that same game just for S's and G's, which Jonathan Taylor, just unbelievable. Can we just say that again? But Pat, let's talk about Tashi Spears because Spears feels like another one of these guys where the backfield is a complete split right now. If Tony Pollard gets dealt, it becomes Spears backfield. And there's still, you know, time here for the trade deadline for that to possibly happen, where I think some teams might look at Tony Paul and say that's a useful piece for us Tennessee Titans right now also maybe in that evaluation period too, where you might as well continue to look forward here. And I think Spears is the more forward looking guy than Pollard at this stage of their careers. So what's your spend on a guy like Spears, considering where we are in season.
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Derek Brown
Modest Joe. I would say modest. And of course it depends on league size and what's available on waivers. But I think the leagues where Spears is still available are probably smaller, more shallow leagues. So they're probably a lot of running backs readily available and you might not have to spend that much anyway. But yeah, we've been sort of monitoring the workload split in this backfield ever since Spears came back and he played four more snaps than Tony Pollard in Week 8. Titans lost in a blowout. So maybe the game script had something to do with it or maybe not because I'm not sure Spears really is the designated passing down back. Because we saw Pollard in that role at the end of the Titans week seven game where he was kind of Pollard was the guy in the two minute offense late. I think the bottom line with Spears is that he has more juice than Pollard. That's easy to see. He seems to be easing his way past Pollard in terms of usage. He adds value with his pass catching, but yet the overall value I think is pretty limited. Just because the Titans are so bad and score so few touchdowns.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, that, that is the problem. At the end of the day, the offensive ecosystem isn't great. But to Pat's point, it does feel like he is the better of the two potentially going forward. And I think that is worthy of note here. And it's not like he can't do everything he can catching balls out of the backfield too. So that's an important wrinkle in this whole thing, especially in those PPR formats. Dbro so Spears for me actually becomes really interesting because if there's an injury to Tony Pollard, once again this is a guy, it's not a first and second down guy. This is a three down back potentially for the Tennessee Titans that they would have and a guy that's going to come cheaper than Tyrone Tracy will.
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Joey P.
Yeah, I agree. I mean I, I think there's two guys to bring up in this same area code. I like. I think Tajie Spears, the case we're making for him is the same case I can make for Isaiah Davis. Both of these teams are not great. Both these running backs are splitting time with the starter incumbent who could get traded and Isaiah Davis had a very similar kind of. I mean obviously they played the Bengals so the stat line's a little bit juice, but 12 touches and 107 total yards. But both of these guys, you're stashing them for not only if the backfield turns a little bit, but more by like Davis if there is a trade, but both these guys, that's the out. If there's a trade for Tony Pollard, if there's a trade for Breeze hall, then both of these guys, even though the offenses are God awful, even though they're not going to be in the red zone very often, they're both volume plays and possibly low end RB2s. At worst, high end flex plays on a weekly basis. So both of these guys, you talking about Spears, like I was surprised he was below 50%, I was surprised Isaiah Davis is at 33%. Both of these guys should be over 50.
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Joe P. Zapia
Well, the Davis one doesn't surprise me as much. But look, this is the time, this is the week to add them, both of them. So if you have to go up a couple more bucks, I would do that. I had to start Isaiah Davis in a league because just the way things happen and look, I was very happy that it ended up working out for me. But Pat, Isaiah Davis, in your opinion, another guy too, Breece hall, certainly, if that wasn't an audition to get traded from the Jets, I don't know what was. I mean, geez, Breeze hall looked terrific in that game. I'm sure a lot of teams, a lot of, you know, general managers look at that and say, okay, wow, that was really something. Maybe Bree hall can be a real difference maker for a stretch run for one of these playoff contending teams that's looking for some more running back help. But in that interim, is there enough room also for Davis to work? This is supposed to be the identity of the jets, isn't it? Run the football, run the football, run the football some more. Guess what? They ran the football even when they got behind and it worked. So back to basics was good. Can Davis be a guy that has some appeal here without a Hall injury or a trade? Or is Davis just one of these guys you keep in glass?
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Derek Brown
Pat, I don't think he's going to have standalone value on the 1 in 7 jets, Joe. And they're not going to play the Bengals every week, unfortunately.
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Joe P. Zapia
But shame because it was fun, right?
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Derek Brown
Because Bree hall had a pretty big game himself with 133 rushing yards and and two touchdowns. But Davis did look really sharp. Seven carries, 65 yards, five catches for 44 yards. I know Debro really liked Isaiah Davis as a prospect and watching him play on Sunday, it was kind of easy to see why. So circle November 4th on the calendar. That's the trade line deadline. That's early next week. But we might start to see some deals like later this week wouldn't be shocking. And, you know, maybe Breeze hall is one of the guys. Maybe Tony Pollard is one of the guys involved.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah. Get ahead of the game just in case any of those things do happen. All right, I want to talk about Tank Bigsby also getting ahead of things. Now, we mentioned the Eagles are on a buy. Saquon came up lame with a groin injury, so they said he could have gone back in, but from the look of his face when he got hurt, it did not look awesome. And Saquon was awesome in that game. No doubt about that. Do you want to add Tank Bigsby this week? Just to speculate, just in case, because you could probably slip him through the cracks there for a couple bucks because he's not necessarily like, we're just going to be waiting on news and all that speculation over this time. Pat, if you have that kind of bench depth and you want to do that, is that a wise move or is that a waste of fab?
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Derek Brown
No, I think it's a wise move because he is potentially Tank Bigsby very valuable as a lottery ticket because if anything happened to Saquon, long term, even if this groin injury does turn out to be nothing and Saquon is fine for next week, any sort of absence for Saquon, and Bigsby steps right into a powerful offense with one of the best offensive lines in the league. So that's the appeal here. And I think if you are a Saquon Barkley investor, you've been waiting all year. You didn't know who the handcuff was, because we saw A.J. dillon and Will Shipley sort of filling in behind him as sort of like a tag team. But in Week 8, like, Bigsby was clearly the top backup. 16 snaps behind Saquon. Shipley played eight snaps, and Bigsby did look just fantastic. He looked like the Tank Bigsby we saw in Jacksonville last year. So, yeah, nine carries, 100 yards, 104 yards, 104.
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Joe P. Zapia
104. That's an average of 11 yards per carry. Now, again, it's against the Giants.
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Derek Brown
He did look really good. He did just realize Tank does not catch passes.
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Joe P. Zapia
He doesn't. But, you know, he can score touchdowns potentially, and 10% roster. Dbro. Tank does feel like a guy that I think. Will, I. I gotta be honest with you. I think certain sharp leagues will. People will add him this week and the more casual leagues, I get the feeling that people won't. And they'll say, oh, the Eagles are on a buy anyway. I'm not even going to bother. And those are the kind of leagues, especially to Pat's illusion, where you stash them for a buck because groin injuries are tricky. And what if Saquon misses a game? What if it turns out it's actually more of an issue potentially, or a re. Aggravation, Right. There's a lot of ifs there. So for a buck or two to sneak him through the waiver wire, I think it's not a terrible look at all. I think it's actually kind of a savvy move if you have the space.
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Joey P.
To do is an extremely sharp move. And we're talking about an Eagles team that's six and two right now coming out of the buy. If Saquon. Say. Say Saquon plays or say anything like. But I, I don't want Saquon to get hurt. But if the injury bug does bite and you have Tank on your roster, I'm just going to lay this out, boys. Weeks 12 through 17, this is the. This is the Eagle schedule. They get Dallas, the Bears, the Chargers, the Raiders, the Commanders, Buffalo. What team is in that schedule that you cannot run on, man, like, tell me. They.
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Derek Brown
They.
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Joe P. Zapia
It's.
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Joey P.
That is an immaculate run out. So this is. Again, it's the $1 scratch off that could pay dividends.
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Joe P. Zapia
Let's get to another guy, too, who could potentially be an AD this week. Again, we don't know the extent of the injury of Quintean Judkins yet. He had a shoulder issue. He was questionable to return yesterday in that game that got away from the Cleveland Browns there as the game went on. Dylan Sampson, a guy that does work in the passing game, we've seen that before. He's only 12 rostered, which is understandable. Judkins kind of took over this backfield. Is this another guy too, potentially dbro that you want to slip through the waiver wire. And you know, it's funny. For probably two bucks, you can get Bigsby and Samson, right? Because, yeah, you know, both of them are on the waiver wire and both of them are on buys this week. So again, it's. It's more. Can you manage it with all the other pieces that you need to get a starting lineup out there with the buys, but if you can manage it, it seems like a smart bit of insurance to purchase.
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Joey P.
You should be picking up both of these guys for the same reasons. And Samson played 19 to 27 snaps after Justin Judkins left with a shoulder injury coming off of the buy. If Judkins is out for any reason, guys, we Just talked about the. The defense that. Well, at least the defense of Chase Brown and Samaj P. Ryan destroyed this weekend. He gets the Jets. So even if you only get one week of flex opportunity with Dylan Sampson, it's. It's there, dude. But same reasons with Bigsby. I mean, are applicable to picking up Dylan Sampson. If Judkins misses time, Sampson's gonna be the lead back.
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Joe P. Zapia
Pat, your thoughts on Sampson here and maybe you want to throw drum Ford out to just in case people are having questions about him.
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Derek Brown
Yeah, well, after Judkins went down, Joe. Dylan Sampson played 19 of the Browns last 27 offensive snaps, according to PFF. So it seems like he has kind of pushed his way past Jerome Ford.
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Joe P. Zapia
But was that game script? Is that because they were behind?
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Derek Brown
Could have been. Could have been, but I. I don't really could have been.
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Joe P. Zapia
See, I think that's a fair question to ask. I'm sure people watching the show kind of was that. Was that only because of the fact that the score is what it was, or is that because of Samson being the true number two? I think. I don't know if we know the answer to that, Pat.
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Derek Brown
We don't, but Ford would probably have a role too. But then again, the Browns are probably going to be in a lot of negative game scripts, so Sampson seems like he would be the preferred guy here. I just would be careful about how much you spend on this because it seemed like some of the injury doctors on Twitter were suggesting it might be a sprained AC joints for quinch on Judkins. And usually that's one of those things that you might be questionable with the following week. But since the Browns have a buy in week nine, it seems like if that's the injury, Judkins will probably be good to go in week 10.
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Joe P. Zapia
It's a painful injury, though. I've had that injury. You get a cortisone shot basically in the top bone of your shoulder. If you put your hand here, that little bone that pops up, that's where they put it right in the joint there. I felt like I could lift a car after. It was awesome. But I gotta say, the injury, not so much. Definitely limitations there and weakness too, for a little while too. So we'll see what happens there. I want to talk about a guy to drop potentially too. If you're still holding on to Hassan Haskins. It doesn't feel like you should right after last week in Vidal. I think that's. That's bygones be bygones, right? We're good with him. We're dropping him Pat. Okay. All right, so D Row and and Pat are both dropping Haskins. All right, before we get to the wide receivers, I want to remind everybody the sponsor of our show is Hard Rock Bet and it's Monday. Week eight closes out with the Washington Commanders versus the Kansas City Chiefs. And listen to this streak from Hard Rock Bet Stats hub. You can find live odds and bet this one right on the Hard Rock Bet app. And if you're not sure if you should start or sit Terry McLaurin, fantasy pros gave him a B grade in the consensus wide rece ranks this week, but he's recorded 53 or more receiving yards in seven straight October games. So there you go. He likes pumpkin season. And if you want, you can bet his over at 47 and a half right now at Hard Rock Bet. And when you do, when you place that first bet of five bucks and it hits, you get 150 in bonus bets plus your winnings. Plus tonight on Hard Rock Bet, you can get Monday night parlay boost for the game. Love that boost your parlay so it pays extra winnings. Check out our Monday Night Football show too over on Betting Pros with myself and Scott Bogman walking you through all the props and the game. For that and if you're listening to this later, don't worry. Just open up the Hard Rock Bet app. They've got specials every single day there. Download the Hard Rock Bet app today, make your first deposit and Hard Rock Bet payable and bonus bets. Not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in Florida Offered by Seminole Hard Rock Digital LLC and other states must be 21 and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Oregon, Virginia. To play terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call 1888. Admit it in Indiana, if you or somebody you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-9 with it gambling department. Call 1-800- gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois and New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia.
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B R-I K.com all right, next up here, wide receivers. Troy Franklin had himself a day and if it's one person that loves Troy Franklin, it's Derek Brown. So I can only imagine DBRO, you really enjoyed this Troy Franklin 2 touchdown performance. But the caveat is it's against the awful, terrible, no good secondary of the Dallas Cowboys. So once again Troy Franklin's been able to pop off. I know we were saying hey it could be Mims, could be anybody. You know it wasn't Mims. It was absolutely Troy Franklin in this game. Even Pat Bryant got a touchdown, his first of his career there. Two for 40. So six. 489 for Troy Franklin, two touchdowns. He actually led the Denver Broncos in receiving. Cortland Sutton was second at 67. So Troy Franklin is a player available in 33% of leagues. Another one. I was kind of shocked with that matchup this week. All the injuries and the buys that on sleeper that number wasn't closer to 50. 33 shocked me. Dbra dude, we try to tell people.
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Joey P.
Try to tell people last week, try to tell people to pick him up and flex him and stuff. And again still the roster percentage is sitting where it's at man. And and I want to be very clear like it I don't want to say you've missed the boat, but the next three matchups for Franklin, he gets the Texans, the Raiders. Okay, that's flex worthy. And then he gets the Chiefs two of those three matchups. I'm not interested in attacking those secondaries. So if, if you didn't get Franklin already, don't go like, like opening up the piggy bank to chase it now. Like put out like a, a 5% bid. 6%. That's, that's fine. I don't want to chase this monster game because we told you last week this was the opportunity to flex it. Yeah, I'm sorry.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, you're right. This was the spot here, certainly going forward. So, Pat, what do you think about Troy Franklin these next three weeks? So you got at Houston, Vegas, Casey, then the bye week coming up for Troy Franklin. This is the first game, or should it say tied for his highest here. He had 89 receiving yards in week two against Indianapolis, but since then, 8, 55, 35, 19, 19. Then again the big 89 spot. Again, he does have three touchdowns in his last two games, so that I guess is a nice trend. And Bo Nick, certainly, I think there was something about that fourth quarter really spurned some confidence. And if the Cowboys don't give you confidence throwing the football, I don't know what does. So can Bo Nix build on this along with Troy Franklin or did we miss the spot here with him this past week?
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Derek Brown
Might have missed the spot. I still think he's borderline playable in any given week, but he just. Troy Franklin doesn't play full snaps is the issue. Like he's usually around a 60% snapshare. And so you get Marvin Mims mixed in, Pat Bryant mixed in some weeks Evan Ingram is a little busier than other weeks and some weeks Cortland Sutton gets a lot more volume than anyone else. So you can play him. It's at least nice that Bo Nick seems to be on an upswing after kind of struggling early in the season. So that might give you a little more confidence in Troy Franklin. But I do think I'm probably going to have him ranked as a wide receiver for the next few weeks, I would assume.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, that sounds.
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Joey P.
And also to shout out here, Troy Franklin third. It's a bats point about the touchdowns and stuff and Knicks third in the entire NFL and red zone targets right now. Troy Franklin, Really?
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Joe P. Zapia
Wow.
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Derek Brown
Wow.
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Joey P.
Third behind only Devonte Adams and Trey.
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Derek Brown
McBride, baby pass him on Monday night. Probably.
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Joe P. Zapia
Certainly in the range of outcomes. All right, let's talk about the Houston Texans wide receivers. So no Nico Collins this past week. Christian Kirk out too. So. So the kids had to step up here. Jaden Higgins roster in 22% of leagues. Jalen Noel after this past week, roster just 18 of leagues. But Xavier Hutchinson, 8% of leagues. He was the guy actually leading the charge in this game. So Hutchinson, five catches for 69 and a touchdown. Strong day from him. Jalen Noel, who I wanted to add desperately to the waiver wire list last week and I was told by these two guys that's not going to be enough. I was like, that could be enough. Jalen Noel, come on. He had to go. You guys on the field enough. Well, guess what? He got you double digit PPR points. And that's all I wanted this week. That's all a lot of us needed this week with so many injuries. 5 for 63. So okay, give me my 10 points, let me get out of here. And then there was Jaden Higgins who had 4 for 34, but he had that touchdown as well. So. So let's talk about these additions here to the group. Pat Fitz, Morris. Of these three, who has the most value potentially going forward?
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Derek Brown
That's a good question, Joe. I don't know if any of them do. Man, let me paint.
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Joe P. Zapia
Let me repaint the picture then for you. Okay, so Nico Collins, we know the injury, we know, we all theorize that Jaden Higgins fits the Nico Colin. That was the whole thing in draft season. Right? People use that comp a million times. He's like another Nico. It is, but it's out there. The slot work, right. Isn't that the fantasy productivity that we always say? That's. That's where PPR points are born. So if this Texans offense is going to, you know, swing back to where Tank Dell used to be, a guy that was very exciting for us in fantasy. Why can't Jalen Noel be that guy potentially rest of season?
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Derek Brown
Because the Texans insist on playing Braxton Barrios too. And yeah, like dbros D Rose rant is. We already got the dbro rant about this last week and I know deeper wants to go and who's the other guy? DBRO who they were getting snaps at wide receiver yesterday. Who I actually had to look up Wayne.
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Joe P. Zapia
I was yesterday. Jared Wayne had two catches for 20.
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Joey P.
Wayne was.
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Derek Brown
So here, here's the thing, Joe. Like Nico Collins probably back in Week 9 after concussion and I don't know if any other Texans receiver is going to be playable. Like I don't want to get. Get sucked into The Houston Texans complimentary receiver vortex after CJ Stroud's first 300 yard game of the season.
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Joe P. Zapia
Well, I look the Braxton Barrios thing is a great counterpoint. It's super annoying, I'm not gonna lie. But I think we all know who Braxton Barrios is at this point, his career. And if Jalen Noel continues to show you, I mean this is back to back game now where Noel is getting the job done. At some point when we get into double digit weeks, you know we 11, 12, all this stuff, maybe there is something there for. No, I, I will, I will die on this hill. And I think I might here once again.
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Derek Brown
I mean like I wish, I wish there were people in the Texans coaching staff willing to die that hell, Jalen Noel is like he can fly. The dude had a 411 1/2 inch vertical jump at the combine. Like he's an athletic freak. Just give him the slot job.
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Joe P. Zapia
Well that's. Well that's why I again when they were at their best debro it was that whole like we got Nico on the outside and we got letting him do his thing and then we had Tank Dell doing his thing. Well, Tank Dell can't do his thing right now. Right. So Jaylen Noel looks to be like that kind of player at least in theory once again. And then it looks a little bit like in practice. But it's a small sample size. All I'm saying is there's definitely room for that sample size to grow. So I still want to add Jaylen Noel this week. I know why. Nobody else does. And maybe this was the week yet again and we missed the week for some of us. I didn't. I had to start him in a couple leagues and stream them. What are your thoughts thoughts on this Texans wide receiver group? Especially since Pat pointed out. Hey, you know, it doesn't matter. Nico most likely coming back next week. I. It's.
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Joey P.
It's a total frapping mess. Like I, I added Jaden Higgins and Jalen Null are stashes and that's where they should be. Like I do not understand why Houston is doing what they're doing. Why d' Amico Ryan's and Nick Kaylee are burying these rookies but it's happening. Like Jaden Higgins. Yeah, he played the most snaps out of any of their wide receivers last week.
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Joe P. Zapia
Week.
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Joey P.
Okay, we got to go down the page. Second in wide receiver snaps. Third wide receiver snaps. Oh, look at that. Jalen all fourth in wide receiver snaps. And Braxton Barrios missed part of the game. With an injury and came back for that to even happen. I don't know why Houston is doing this. I think it's, it's asinine. I think it's ridiculous. CJ Stroud goes out and he has arguably watching that game yesterday, his best game of the season. And you see, oh hey, guess what? We let the kids play and they look awesome.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah. And they beat the 49ers and I know the 49ers didn't have Bosa and they don't have Fred Warner and I know it's not the same defense, but it's still a good unit. Like it's still a good, well coached team. Robert Sal is a really good defensive coach. It was, it was. I agree it was very eye opening and I hope that they learned from it. That's all. I hope so.
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Joey P.
But to Pat's point and for everything, like the fact that Jared freaking Wayne got more snaps than Jalen all is, is. It's criminal now betting on talent.
- [32:54]
Joe P. Zapia
Yes.
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Joey P.
You should be stashing Jaden Higgins. Jalen all it should Jaylen all be a full time player? Yes. Should he be number two? Obviously fighting with Jaden Higgins for targets by Nico Collins. Yes, unfortunately, because none of us are coaches in the Houston room. Is that going to happen in the next two to three weeks? Who knows? But yes, Jaylen all keeps producing every time they give him snaps and opportunities. If you've been here since draft season, you know, you know.
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Joe P. Zapia
All right, I want to talk about Chimray DK of the Tennessee Titans because obviously it's looking like a lost season for Calvin Ridley. We could talk about him in a second too. But Jim Ray DK, seven receptions for 93. I know we all like Elegant Manor, but DK really last couple weeks has shown a lot here. It's tough because the offensive ecosystem we talked about earlier, the Titans isn't great. Derek. But is DK a guy here that in PPR leagues at least that you can stream as a wide receiver? 3 as a flex, flex, you know, going forward here, is there enough here for him potentially?
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Joey P.
I don't know if going forward I think he's going to be one of those guys that depends on the matchup and stuff. But this week I think the matchup is there and his role in this passing offense is growing like in week 70 at a 66 route share. That bumped up to a 90 route share and a 21 target share in this last game. And the big thing for this week, yeah, the Chargers have been a good pass defense Overall, but their splits between perimeter and slot receivers are massive. Like to perimeter receivers, they're giving up the second fewest PPR points per target. To slot receivers, that that number is 10th most. So yeah, DK is definitely worth the flex, especially in PPR formats this week.
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Joe P. Zapia
Pat, the last two weeks he's caught 11 of 12 targets for 163 yards and a touchdown. It seems like you could stream them against the Chargers next week.
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Derek Brown
Yeah, and I sort of questioned DBRO when he wanted to put DK in the waiver article this week, but not Alec. I am Manor. I just. I thought that was kind of a dubious call because I do think Iron Manor is the better rookie receiver, better prospect. But I think Debro is right that I. Manor is pretty much unplayable the next couple of weeks because of matchups. And if you can't play him when the bye weeks are crushing us, why, why roster Alec I A Manor. DK on the other hand, might be playable in these more slot friendly matchup. And he has gotten a nice usage bump with Tyler Lockett released. DK played 56.6% of the Titans offensive snaps in Week 7. That was a season high. And then he had four catches for 70 yards and a touchdown. But in Week 8, he played 88.7% of the snaps, ran almost as many routes as I am manor, and had eight targets that he turned into seven catches for 93 yards. So yeah, DK might be a thing. He's really athletic. He played for my Wisconsin Badgers for a while before transferring to Florida and finishing his college career there. I thought he was going to maybe be just a special teamer. Like he's really good in that facet of the game, but like he might have some, some value as a wide receiver too.
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Joe P. Zapia
All right. Usually we put this show together late Sunday night and then sometimes I wake up Monday morning and there's more names in the sheet and one of those names that somebody put in, in, I don't know who it was this week was Alec Pierce. So. Well, the person who put in Alec Pierce, please raise their hand. I want to hear this rant. All right, Derrick Brown. So Alec Pierce last week here against the Tennessee Titans, two catches for 69 yards. So why do you want to add potentially Alec Pierce this week?
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Joey P.
Because this could be the next upcoming Troy Franklin of flex opportunities looking you're buying into a top five scoring offense. And really it. It's the coverage matchups, Joe. Alec Pierce does not get targets versus too high. That does not happen. But he Is the downfield threat in the Colts offense and he is their go to weapon versus single high coverage. And the reason I want to bring him up this week and for honestly, the next two weeks, he is flex worthy because the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Atlanta Falcons are first and second in the NFL running single high on 62 and 60 and 73% of their coverages. And just to lay this out for Everybody, Alec Pierce versus single high coverage. 29.2% target share, 4.1 yards per route run, and this man gets a 32% first read share. So Alec Pierce absolutely flex worthy over the next two weeks.
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Joe P. Zapia
Pat, do you want to co sign on that?
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Derek Brown
I do. I've actually been trying to put. Get Debro to put Pierce into the waiver article.
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Joey P.
It's a Sunday conversation every week.
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Derek Brown
It is. But you know, dbro, I think with both DK and Alec Pierce is really dialed into what the coverage matchups are going to be in which. Which coverage matchups play to these receiver strengths.
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Joe P. Zapia
Okay, there you go. Alec Pierce. Another one. What about dropping guys, too? Calvin Ridley. Pat, can we drop Calvin Ridley?
- [37:50]
Derek Brown
Sayonara, Calvin. Sorry, man. A guy I really like preseason, and boy, has that been a terrible call.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, I wonder if he's one of the latest of the veteran wide receivers from. Remember last year where all the veteran wide receivers got dealt with? I wonder if somebody's gonna come knocking for him. If he's healthy enough. We'll see. Oh, hey, look. Amari Cooper got traded last year. A lot of guys got traded last year. DeAndre Hopkins. I mean, if Calvin Ridley doesn't fit in that bucket right now, I don't know who does. Like, he definitely feels like that bucket of guys. What about Jerry, Judy, Pat? Would you drop him? I mean, talk about a wasted season for him.
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Derek Brown
Yeah, boy. If you just based on the number of routes, run the number of targets, the air yards he's getting, you would think he would be a top 20 receiver. And no, no touchdowns. I think he has like 22 catches for 257 yards or something like that. It's been really bad. I think you can drop him.
- [38:39]
Joe P. Zapia
You don't think Shador could save him, right? I'm just.
- [38:41]
Derek Brown
No asking for a friend. No. All with only rookie quarterbacks. I just don't see the. The light at the end of the tunnel for Judy.
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Joe P. Zapia
All right, do you see. I mean, Kendrick, Bourne, Deborah, that's another guy I think you can drop, right? I mean, it was fun for a couple weeks, but no Fun for the 49ers. This past week?
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Joey P.
No, I think it was fun for a few weeks, but I think Juwan Jennings is reasserting himself in this passing attack and Rika Piercel is going to be back.
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Joe P. Zapia
So I think Bourne Kittle's back.
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Derek Brown
Kittle's return is what crushed Born as soon as. Yeah, Born disappeared.
- [39:13]
Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, kiddos. For me too. So. All right, let's talk about the streamers for the week here. I know last week one of the streaming tight ends was Mason Taylor, who actually did play really well and had a touchdown his first of the year. But it wasn't thrown by Justin Fields. No, no. It was thrown by Breeze Hall. Good times.
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Joey P.
Another running back.
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Joe P. Zapia
Good times. All right, so let's start with you here, Pat. Give me your streaming quarterback for Week 9.
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Derek Brown
All right, not a. Not a great week for streaming quarterbacks. And this guy would be a runner up to the guy Dbro is about to give you, but Trevor Lawrence gets a decent Week 9 matchup against the Raiders. I mean, the Raiders haven't been giving up that many fantasy points to quarterbacks, mainly because teams tend to have big leads against the Raiders and don't throw that much. But not a good pass defense. They have like the 13th highest opponent passer rating. And maybe Liam Cohen has been cooking up some good stuff during the Jaguars. But my week.
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Joe P. Zapia
Okay, next up here for streaming QB Derek Brown. What do you have?
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Joey P.
Well, I'll own this and say I got to the sheet before Patty did because I knew, you know, we were. We were. And honestly, this is the streamer of the week for quarterback.
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Joe P. Zapia
You know, in all fairness, you guys, it's the same every week. You know, if you really felt really, I mean, it's nothing to stop either of you. 4:00 clock in the afternoon. But let me, let me go type somebody's name in there. You know, you could say that's fair. Like waiting for me to open up this, like some magical thing where I'm opening up the sheet. It's there. It's the same. We work in every week Anyway, because that Welsh and Bogman complained about that stuff all the time. I was like, I don't understand. It's the same sheets. What are we doing? I'm just so, I'm just.
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Joey P.
Look, I'm just owning it that I got to it first. And I know, look, I know both hand holding on Sam Darnold as really the. The QB streamer du jour.
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Joe P. Zapia
Okay?
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Joey P.
Washington's given up the six most schedule adjusted fantasy points per game to quarterbacks.
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Joe P. Zapia
All right, so though so Sam Darnold, Trevor Lawrence, that's what we want this week. All right. All right, here we go. Let's go to tight end D. Bro, who do you like this week?
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Joey P.
Colston Loveland. Man, I know it wasn't a massive week, but he was the full time starter for the Bears last week. I think Cole Komet, who did not practice at all last week, has a back injury. I think he's out again this week. And if that's the case, baby, Cincinnati Bengals provide. He gets the Bengals this week. The best matchup for tight ends. Coon. Lovely getting into the end zone this week. Let's go.
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Joe P. Zapia
All right, Fitzy, give me a streaming tight end for week nine.
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Derek Brown
I don't know how week eight was such a good week for streaming tight ends, and week nine is just such a disaster, I guess. How about A.J.
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Joe P. Zapia
Barner?
- [41:36]
Derek Brown
Like A.J. barner?
- [41:37]
Joe P. Zapia
I like Barner.
- [41:38]
Derek Brown
Three touchdowns in his last four games, five red zone targets this season, and he's gone over 50 yards in two of his last four games.
- [41:47]
Joe P. Zapia
All right, Fitzy, give me a defense to stream this week.
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Derek Brown
Oh, how about the Rams at home against the Saints? The Rams defense has scored 28 fantasy points over its last two games. The Rams went into their Week 8 by ranked second in the league in sacks with 26, led by edge rusher. Byron Young has nine already. And the Rams might be facing a rookie quarterback making his first NFL start. The Saints benched Spencer Rattler last week, so the Rams might get to pick on Tyler Schuck.
- [42:16]
Joe P. Zapia
I didn't get that. I mean, Rattler. Look, Rattler is not perfect, but, like, I didn't get that.
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Derek Brown
That's weird.
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Derek Brown
Wasn't.
- [42:22]
Joey P.
You're trying to understand what the Saints are doing. Don't do. Don't do. Don't do that. Well, you're just gonna give yourself headaches. Don't try to do that.
- [42:29]
Joe P. Zapia
I didn't understand it, you know, Like, I'm not trying to defend him like he's some great quarterback, but, like, Spencer's been okay this year.
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Derek Brown
Yeah.
- [42:38]
Joe P. Zapia
Something tells me if they had played him the four quarters of that game, that the score would not have been quite as bad as it was. Like, I just didn't get that. So Tyler Shock, everybody.
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Joey P.
Yay.
- [42:47]
Joe P. Zapia
All right, here we go. Dbro give me streaming defense this week.
- [42:51]
Joey P.
I'm realizing right now I should have taken AJ Barner as the tight end just for the bit so I could go full Seattle and.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, I mean, I was kind of disappointing. I should have done It. I should have done it for the bit, everybody.
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Joey P.
I really should have done it. But, dude, they're all fantastic streaming options. Seattle's under 50% rostered. If they're out there, pick them up. I mean, the things that we want that score fantasy points. Dude, they're fourth and pressure rates the sacks. Yes, I know. They get the commanders. We'll see if Jaden Daniels is back. Back. Probably not. And they're fourth and interception. So all the things that we care about score fantasy points. When you stream a defense, Seattle does well.
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Joe P. Zapia
Do I have to ask who your kicker is or is it just Jason Myers?
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Joey P.
It's just Jason Myers. Yes. And again, Jason Myers. 10 to at least 10 fantasy points in four of six games. So, yes. Seattle, Seattle, Seattle, Seattle.
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Joe P. Zapia
Fitz, do you want to trade Barner for Loveland so he could just have the queen sweeper?
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Derek Brown
Good deal.
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Joe P. Zapia
All right, just for the bit. There we go. Streaming the Seattle Seahawks this week. I've been told.
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Joey P.
I don't know if you're supposed to go full Seattle, but I'm going full Seattle.
- [43:52]
Joe P. Zapia
I don't see why not. Seattle's pretty good. They're a good football team. Patty, how about a kicker for this week?
- [43:57]
Derek Brown
Tyler Loop of the Ravens. He's missed just one field goal this season, and the Ravens should get Lamar Jackson back, hopefully from his handling injury.
- [44:05]
Joe P. Zapia
I've heard that before.
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Derek Brown
Yeah, exactly. So that. That should reinvigorate the offense. And the nice thing about having a Ravens kicker like John Harbaugh does not mind settling for three PE points. Some. Some, like Sean McVeigh would rather cut off one of his own toes than take a field goal inside the 30 yard line. But like John Harbaugh. Yeah, just give him the three points.
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Joe P. Zapia
Well done, Patty. Well done. That was good. All right. Don't miss out on using Waiver Central to help get you all the difference makers you're going to need for this week and the rest of the season. Go to fantasypros.com myplaybook or just download the Fantasy Pro Pros apps. You can instantly view suggestions on who you should be adding, who you should be dropping. Use Waiver Central, one of the many tools here at Fantasy Pros to help you win a fantasy championship, because that's what it's all about. So don't be a tool. Use the tools. Let's go through the top five waiver ads of the week. Debro, what do you have here? Top five for week nine.
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Joey P.
Taron Tracy. Obvious number one. But then, like I alluded at the top of the show. It's stuffing and cuffing season, baby. So Isaiah Davis is number two. Taj Spears, three. Colston Loveland again the streamer of the week for tight end number four. And Alec Pierce get ahead of the curve, baby. Number five.
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Joe P. Zapia
All right, Fitzy, your top five for week nine.
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Derek Brown
Tyrone Tracy, number one. K. Sean Booty is number two. Joe, I know it's getting cold in the northeast, so why not warm your hands by the flames coming from Drake May right now.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, baby. Let's go, dude.
- [45:29]
Derek Brown
Tie yourself to Drake May because he has just been unbelievable.
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Number three.
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Derek Brown
I'm gonna put Sam Darnold just because he is so far head and shoulders ahead of all the other widely available quarterbacks and waivers. I think it's worth grabbing him and prioritizing him if you need QB help. Tyler Algier, number four, invaluable as a handcuff and maybe some standalone value, too. And then Taijay Spears, number five.
- [45:52]
Joe P. Zapia
Some good play designs yesterday, too. I love that rub play they ran down by the end zone with Diggs on that touchdown. That was a great play design. Really like that one. And look, he also got sacked five times by Miles Garrett. He didn't fold up like a 10. Lesser men and and greater quarterbacks have folded under that sort of pressure from Miles Garrett. I mean, it was consistent. It was all day. Well, maybe not all day, but most of the day. But impressive performance, no doubt by him. Keisha Booty, what's. What's his roster percentage right now, too? I'm just curious.
- [46:21]
Derek Brown
Like, it's like 30 on yacht.
- [46:26]
Joe P. Zapia
It's crazy, man. It's crazy.
- [46:27]
Joey P.
I know he's above 50 on sleeper, but honestly, it's still not that high. Like, it's still not high enough on Sleeper. I think he's in the 50.
- [46:33]
Joe P. Zapia
All right, so Booty's still around. Go pick up the booty. Don't let the booty just sit out there by itself. And of course, don't forget about our live stream too. Tomorrow, 3pm Eastern, right here on the Fantasy Pros channel. Derek Brown and I are going to take your questions. Who to add, who to drop, recap what happens in Monday night too. Because sometimes Monday night weird things happen and there's more players to talk about. Who knows, maybe we'll get a trade by then, too. And of course, don't forget to drop your comments here. Subscribe to the channel like this video so you could be the winner of our latest giveaway. The toilet seat. That's right. For the real loser in your league. That'll do it for us, but the story of the game goes on. For DBRO and Pat, I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time, kids.
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Joey P.
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