FantasyPros Fantasy Football Podcast — Episode Summary

Episode: Out of Bounds: Joe Burrow’s Injury, Panic or Patience, and Week 2 Takeaways (Ep. 1711)
Date: September 16, 2025
Hosts: Joey P. (Joe Pisapia), The Welsh, Scott Bogman
Theme: Deep fantasy football analysis of Week 2, focusing on Joe Burrow's injury, trade/panic scenarios, key takeaways, and who to target or fade moving forward.

Episode Overview

This episode tackles the devastating fantasy impact of Joe Burrow’s injury, analyzing implications for Bengals stars (Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins, Jake Browning), and offers a lively “panic or patience” session for key fantasy names as Week 2 closes. The trio also digs into the quarterback carousel, emerging waiver priorities, and provides thoughtful (and funny) takeaways from the NFL weekend, all in their signature energetic banter.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Joe Burrow’s Injury Fallout

• Burrow Out with Surgery: Burrow is set for toe surgery (“grade three level, not good,” [01:03]) and will miss months, if not the season.
• Jake Browning Outlook:
  • The Welsh notes Browning's past “game manager” finishes (QB4 finishes, but mostly fringe starter: “QB23, QB18, then after that QB4 at Jacksonville, QB4 again against Indianapolis…” [01:19]).
  • Jamar Chase’s Prospects:
    • “Can Jamar Chase still finish as a WR1?” asks Joey P.
    • Welsh: “Can he? Sure. Will he? No, I don’t think so...I just think there’s too much competition for it.” ([03:00])
    • Bogman: “...he’s still going to have 170 targets, so he’s still going to be a top five [wideout]. Number one is very difficult without your best QB.” ([05:06])

PICKUP/WAIVER ADVICE

• Is Jake Browning a Superflex add for Burrow managers?
  • Joey P: “Yeah, I think he is.”
  • “Offense stays pass-oriented, Chase’s volume is still high,” but ceiling capped without Burrow ([05:06]).

STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE

• Next four for Bengals: at Minnesota, at Denver, vs Detroit, at Green Bay — “a gauntlet” ([05:54]).

2. Quarterback Carousels & Trade Q&A

Who Switches QBs First: Browns or Giants?

• Both teams’ QB situations are perilous.
• Bogman’s take: “It’s got to be Cleveland...Browns held the Bengals to seven yards of offense in the second half and still lost...looked miserable against Baltimore” ([07:39]).
• Welsh: “Could be pretty close...Russ [Wilson]...almost 500 yards...but Browns want to make that move pretty quick” ([08:34]).

Notable Quotes

• “Better to be in the right place at the right time, Bogs. That’s all I’m saying.” — Joey P. ([07:32])

3. Trade Value Debates

• Trade: T. Higgins for Rashee Rice?
  • Welsh: “No chance I’m doing this. I think...defenses...shut Chase the hell down. That creates more opportunities for T. Higgins.” ([09:45])
• Trade: Chase & Pickens for CeeDee Lamb & Piersol?
  • Bogman: “I want Lamb and Piersol. Maybe the most fair trade ever...if you think Jamar Chase is going to take a back seat, take Lamb over him.” ([11:02])

4. Are the Colts for Real?

• Welsh: “Yeah, I think they really are...They have all the pieces. I don’t see any [fatal flaws]. They were doing that without two of their corners...I really like the offense and defense...They look like a playoff team.” ([12:13])
• Bogman: “Don’t think they’re legit Super Bowl, but are they a contender to make playoffs and win every week? Yes.” ([13:53])
• Fantasy Hot Take: Daniel Jones is “QB2 in fantasy points per game, 26.2, behind only Lamar Jackson.” ([13:30])

5. Panic or Patience: Key Fantasy Players

A Lightning Round with quick takes ([35:06] onward):

• A.J. Brown (Eagles):

  • Welsh: “Panic...not necessarily about him, but about the offense. Jalen Hurts is back to that thing...don’t want to be overdramatic but, panic.” ([35:37])
  • Bogman: “Patience...I think they’ll get their act together. But, I think he’s playing less than 100%...” ([36:18])

• RJ Harvey (UCF RB):

  • Bogman: “Patience...it's not really RJ Harvey. It’s just, for both these guys, for Dobbins and Harvey, it’s when are they going to work Tyler Batty out of this...he’s at least seeing the field.” ([37:21])
  • Welsh: “Patience, though I don’t love how they use him.” ([37:56])

• Tyrone Tracy: “Done. No patience needed. I’d drop him straight up for Cam Scatter Boo.” — Welsh ([38:22])

• Brian Thomas Jr. (Saints):

  • All: Patience, unless wrist injury news gets worse. “He still had 12 targets.” ([38:48])

• James Conner (Cardinals):

  • Joey P: “A little panicked...I think this might be the year we get the transition.”
  • Welsh: “If I can get one-for-one value, I’m getting out. So I guess patience, but... I would rather have Chuba [Hubbard]...” ([39:32])
  • Bogman: “I don’t think Conner’s role is changing at all...so not much changes for Conner.” ([40:09])

6. Emerging Waiver Priorities

• Troy Franklin (WR, Broncos):
  • Welsh: “He looks absolutely ridiculous...25% target share, yards per route run, doing everything. Troy Franklin is real after this week.” ([27:12], [28:13])
  • 3% rostered in Yahoo. “12+ team leagues: drop dead weight for Franklin.” ([30:29])
• Cam Scatter Boo (RB, Giants):
  • Bogman: “Scatter Boo leading this backfield — love seeing that.” ([33:39])

7. Favorite Memorable Moments

• Jalen Hurts’ Trash Talk:
  • Joey P.: “End of Chiefs game, Chris Jones at Jalen Hurts...‘You didn’t even throw for 100 yards!’ Hurts: ‘We won the effing game. Shut your ass up!’” ([32:20])
• Giant-Cowboys 4th Quarter:
  • Welsh: “Fourth quarter of Giants/Cowboys...if you didn’t jump out of your seat on that bomb at the end...top five in the last ten years, incredible entertainment.” ([33:57])
• Scatter Boo TD:
  • Bogman: “Only one for me this week, Joe — Scatter Boo touchdown.” ([33:39])

8. Panic Index for Coaches

• Mike McDaniel (Dolphins):
  • Bogman: “I would not be shocked if after this week, if they get trounced [he’d be fired].” ([16:08], [18:52])
  • Welsh: “October 1st? I think he’s still there because it’s way too early.” ([16:28])

Notable Quotes & Fun Moments

• On Jamar Chase:

  • “Sure he could [finish WR1], but...we’re getting some big stuff. Malik Neighbors looks absolutely insane...I think there’s just too much competition.” — Welsh ([03:00])

• On Fantasy Tilt:

  • “This is a bad situation. They had a players-only meeting, which is what you do when you know the coaching staff is gone.” — Bogman on the Dolphins ([18:52])

• On Player Name Pronunciation:

  • “We found out it is no longer Bijan, it’s back to Bijan...most important takeaway from Week 2!” — Welsh ([26:15], [27:07])

• On Buying Low:

  • “If we’re using the words ‘fire sale’ attached to Drake London and BTJ...give me those players at a discount, please.” — Welsh ([21:57])

• On QB Carnage:

  • “Let’s have a vigil for all the quarterbacks here...we can’t have an NFL season centered around Daniel Jones, Mac Jones, and Jake Browning. We can’t do this.” — Welsh ([31:16])

Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:00 | Joe Burrow injury fallout: Browning stats, Jamar Chase viability | | 05:06 | Superflex/Browning add; Bengals schedule discussion | | 09:45 | Trade Q&A: T. Higgins for Rice; Chase+Pickens vs. Lamb+Piersol | | 12:13 | Are the Colts for real? Daniel Jones’ fantasy ascension | | 15:00 | Best Burrow replacement: Daniel Jones, Russell Wilson or Trevor Lawrence | | 16:08 | Miami Dolphins/Mike McDaniel firing speculation | | 21:01 | Bryce Young “done” take & Panthers QB future | | 22:37 | Week 2 takeaways: Overreactions on St. Brown / Ken Walker | | 26:13 | Welsh’s goofy real “Bijan vs. Bijan” takeaway | | 28:13 | Troy Franklin hype; sleeper waiver add talk | | 32:20 | Memorable moments: Hurts & favorite Week 2 NFL plays | | 35:06 | Panic or Patience round (“AJ Brown, RJ Harvey, Tyrone Tracy, etc.”) |

Final Thoughts

• Week 2 Injuries & QB turnover are absolutely dominating fantasy football in 2025 — sparking hot debates on whether to panic or hold on key Bengals, Saints, and Eagles skill players.
• Emerging Waiver Priorities: Troy Franklin is highlighted as a must-add; Cam Scatter Boo is also gaining ground.
• Panic or Patience: Strong cases made for measured patience on proven talents (A.J. Brown), while others (Tyrone Tracy) are worth moving on from, per hosts.
• Trade Season is Hot: Don’t sell short on Bengals; be bolder in moving off failing pieces at value.

For Those Who Missed It — Your Cheat Sheet

• Superflex managers: Jake Browning is viable but not a hero.
• Jamar Chase: Still a top-5 option, but WR1 ceiling likely gone.
• Tee Higgins: Buy opportunity, as defenses shift to Chase.
• Troy Franklin: Top sleeper WR add, especially in 12+ team.
• Panic button: Not smashed for most studs—except maybe for Eagles and injured Colts.
• Coaching hot seat: Miami’s McDaniel on very thin ice.
• Best lines: “We can’t have an NFL season that is centered around Daniel Jones, Mac Jones, and Jake Browning. We can’t do this.” — Welsh ([31:57])

Signature Signoff:
Joey P, The Welsh, and Bogman close with hopes for QB health and the usual blend of stats, strong opinions, and comic relief. Catch the next Twitch stream and drop your Discord/YouTube questions to get in on the action!