Post-NFL Combine Rookie Dynasty Rankings (Ep. 1975)

Summary

FantasyPros Dynasty Football Podcast

Episode: Post-NFL Combine Rookie Dynasty Rankings (Ep. 1975)
Date: March 6, 2026
Host: Ryan Wormley
Guests: Pat Fitzmorris, Scott Bogman

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into post-NFL Combine rookie dynasty rankings for fantasy football. Ryan, Pat, and Scott go position by position—quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, and tight ends—debating the risers and fallers in the class, what the NFL Combine changed (if anything), and how to approach rookie drafts in a 2026 dynasty landscape notably light on “can’t-miss” prospects. Notably, the show opens with reaction to a major NFL trade: DJ Moore to the Buffalo Bills, and its dynasty ripple effects.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Major NFL Trade: DJ Moore to Buffalo Bills

Timestamp: 03:57 – 09:48

• Trade Details: DJ Moore (plus a fifth) from Bears to Bills for a second-round pick.
• Fantasy Impact:
  • Bills: Josh Allen at last gets a true WR1, reacquaints with Joe Brady (his old Carolina OC), should “make everybody better by default.”

    “Now he has a premier wide receiver… He should make everybody better by default.” — Scott Bogman (07:21)

  • Bears: Clarifies Chicago’s pecking order for their young pass-catchers; opens up targets for Rome Odunze, Colston Loveland, Luther Burden.
  • Moore’s Dynasty Value: Improved with Allen and Brady, especially after chemistry struggles with Caleb Williams in Chicago.
• Market Value Musings: Was it an overpay? Maybe, but elite WRs require overpays.

  “If overpaying is what market value is, is it still an overpay?” — Ryan Wormley (09:40)

• Potential for Further Chicago Moves: Could use draft capital to chase a big-name defender.

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Quarterbacks: The Mendoza (and Mediocre) Class

Timestamp: 10:07 – 18:58

• Consensus #1 – Fernando Mendoza: Clear QB1 and possibly the clear 1.01 even in SuperFlex rookie drafts—"as much of an obvious favorite as it's been in a while."
  • Quote: “He is, if not in that category [of elite rookie picks], just right on the cusp.” — Pat Fitzmorris (10:59)
• Ty Simpson – Consensus QB2:
  • Both Pat and Scott have Simpson as QB2 but with little enthusiasm; unlikely to be a true first-round talent in other years—“should be a second-round pick,” says Bogman (12:19).
  • Debate over whether NFL teams will over-draft him for contract reasons.
  • Where would they take him in SuperFlex? Pat: ~11, Bogman: 14 (15:21–15:42).
• QB3-QB6: General Meh
  • Pat and Scott’s Ranks:
    • 3. Garrett Nussmeier
    • 4. Carson Beck
    • 5. Cole Payton
    • 6. Taylen Green
  • Athletic “Swings”: Payton & Green cited for athletic upside but longshot paths—could “be Pro Bowlers… or in the CFL next year.” (18:25)
  • Overall: No excitement for this QB class—few likely to be fantasy starters.

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Running Backs: Love… and the Deep Drop

Timestamp: 18:58 – 30:34

• RB1 – Jeremiah Love: Clear top option, even worthy of top-two rookie pick status, likened to “Bijan, Jet, Gibbs” as a prospect.
• RB2 Debate: No consensus; muddled tier with several names in the mix:
  • Jadarian Price (Pat and Scott’s pick): Athletic, “explosive runner” a la Miles Sanders, maybe undervalued due to playing behind Love, but pass-catching profile unproven.
    • Quote: “I just think he's a little bit undervalued here because he sat behind Jeremiah Love.” — Scott Bogman (20:08)
  • Jonah Coleman ("probably like his tape the most" — Pat), Mike Washington Jr. (“athleticism and the speed at his size”), Emmett Johnson, Nick Singleton, Katron Allen also in tier.
  • Landing Spot as King: Level of opportunity will dictate value. “Landing spot is going to matter so much for these guys… that’s going to end up being the massive separator.” — Scott Bogman (26:54)
  • Consensus: Receivers are prioritized—Pat’s RB2 (Price) comes after 11 wide receivers in his rankings (22:35).
• Secondary Names (Round 3+ of rookie drafts):
  • Adam Randall (“converted WR… ran a 4.50 at 232 lbs,” 29:28), Seth McGowan (“very, very athletic,” 29:29), with others only lottery tickets dependent on landing spot.
  • Once you’re outside the few main names, these are mostly “maybes” and handcuffs.

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Wide Receivers: Quality in Depth, Not at the Very Top

Timestamp: 34:04 – 52:46

• Clear Top 3 (Tier One):

  1. Carnell Tate
  2. Makai Lemon
  3. Jordan Tyson
  • All in every guest’s top three; order consensus, but gaps between each are narrow.
    • Notable Quote:
      “If he's healthy… [Tyson] might be the best prospect of all of them.” — Pat Fitzmorris (35:21)
  • Injury history is the tie-break: Tyson’s medicals are key to possible draft rise.
  • Combine metrics (e.g. Tate’s 40 time) dismissed as relatively meaningless for fantasy (“I do not care about his 40 time even a little bit.” — Scott Bogman, 37:48)

• Next Tier:

  • Casey Concepcion
  • Denzel Boston
  • Omar Cooper Jr. (could move up based on draft capital—“reminds me of Deebo” — Scott)

• WR7 and Beyond (the ‘personal preference’ zone):

  • Scott: “Jeremy Bernard and the two Bells (Chris & Skylar).” (44:03)
  • Pat: “Elijah Surratt,” but doesn’t feel strongly—has a quartet including Bernard and Malachi Fields.

• Depth over Star Power: These receivers likely lack a generational prospect like MHJ or Malik Nabers—“there is no crazy upside here with a generational prospect, but these guys could all… be WR1s by the end of their second season…” — Scott Bogman (40:41)

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Mock Rookie Draft Landscape (SuperFlex)

Timestamp: 46:19 – 49:30

• Clear Top 10:
  • QB Mendoza
  • RB Love
  • Top-6 WRs (Tate, Lemon, Tyson, Concepcion, Boston, Cooper Jr.)
  • 2 TEs (Sadiq, Stowers)
• Picks 11-12: “You don’t feel great about whoever we respectively have at 1.12… I feel good about Elijah Surratt in the second round—I don’t want to draft him at 1.12.” — Pat (49:17)
• Class Characterized by Quick Drop-Off:
  • “Honestly, I get to nine and I start to get queasy.” — Scott (49:19)

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Deeper Receiver & Overall Class Quality

Timestamp: 50:13 – 52:46

• WR12–20: “Not necessarily better, but at least… comparable at the top. It’s deep, but not a really good class.” — Pat (50:13)
• The hit rate is expected to be lower than typical. “This class kind of sucks, let’s be totally honest… We want to declare that every class is good, [but then] no class is good.” — Pat (51:11)
• Late picks = fantasy lottery tickets; “I think I’m going to feel the way I feel when I buy a Powerball ticket.” — Scott (52:32)

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Tight Ends: Two Standouts, Then a Steep Cliff

Timestamp: 52:46 – 62:13

• Clear Top Two:
  • Kenyon Sadiq and Eli Stowers
  • Their record-breaking combine performances confirmed elite athleticism—nudged their stock upward, especially as so many prospects skipped testing.
  • “To go out and do it and set records… I think does move the needle.” — Scott (53:48)
  • Sadiq slightly above Stowers for both, but the gap is small; Sadiq may stick in-line more and is younger.
  • “In SuperFlex, I have Sadiq 7, Stowers 10.” — Pat (55:26)
• TE3 and Beyond (lots of maybes):
  • Scott: Sam Roush (“like Hunter Henry—steady contributor”), ~25 overall.
  • Pat: Max Claire, ~37 overall (“a lot of pass catching upside from Purdue days”), with Roush right behind (58:07).
  • Michael Trigg, Tanner Koziol, Justin Jolly, and Riley Nowakowski are all “lottery tickets.”
  • Opportunity and landing spot will matter more for TEs in this class than in most.
  • “Once you get past the first 10-12 picks, there’s going to be a lot of players… not on your roster 2 years from now.” — Ryan (61:51)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On DJ Moore’s Dynasty Outlook:
  “It’s maybe the rare trade that seems like it’s got far more winners than losers.”
  — Pat Fitzmorris (04:46)
• On the Weak 2026 QB Class:
  “Clipboard holders… but long-term starters, I just don’t know that we have a lot here.”
  — Scott Bogman (13:57)
• On Drafting into Weak Positions:
  “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”
  — Pat Fitzmorris quoting Rush’s Free Will (22:35)
• On the Class’s Depth and Hit Rate:
  “The bulge is in the middle… a lot of medium talent here that could ascend and become great.”
  — Scott Bogman (50:45)
• On Rookie Draft Philosophy in 2026:
  “Take swings on guys who could be difference makers, because there’s going to be a lot of misses.”
  — Ryan Wormley (61:51)

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Segment Timestamps (MM:SS)

• 03:57 – DJ Moore Trade Breakdown & Dynasty Impact
• 10:07 – Quarterback Class: Mendoza and the Rest
• 18:58 – Running Back Tier Two Mess & Value Discussion
• 34:04 – Top 3 Wide Receivers, Combine Takeaways
• 41:08 – Next Tier of Wide Receivers; Landing Spot Impacts
• 46:19 – SuperFlex Rookie Draft: First Round Structure
• 52:46 – The Big Two Tight Ends & the Tier Drop
• 58:07 – Tight End Lottery Tickets, TE3+ Options
• 61:51 – Philosophy for Rounds 2–5 in Weak Classes

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Conclusion

The 2026 rookie class is defined by its lack of high-end talent and “obvious” fantasy starters outside the very top picks—Mendoza at QB, Love at RB, and a tightly-bunched trio of WRs (Tate, Lemon, Tyson), plus two athletic tight ends (Sadiq, Stowers) who separated in a weak positional group. Beyond that? Rookie drafts will require managers to swing for upside and be prepared for a lower-than-normal hit rate, with depth and landing spot becoming crucial determining factors. The episode is a must-listen (or must-read!) for dynasty managers hoping to navigate this difficult draft class.

Transcript

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[Ryan Wormley]

Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast. I'm Ryan, warmly joined by Pat Fitzmorris and by Scott Bogman. We are talking some post NFL combine Dynasty rookie rankings. We will talk a little bit about how some of these guys go head to head against other positions, but we're mainly going to be going position by position here. So looking at the rookie quarterbacks, running backs, receivers and tight ends and seeing kind of how guys have risen, fallen, stayed the same coming out of the combine here now that we're really fully into March and the and you know, Dynasty rookie rookie season. Quick reminder for everybody that all of our 2026 consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypros.com rankings. From there, you can navigate to the Dynasty rankings as well. Also, I want to let everybody know that you're listening to the audio version of this show. We just launched the brand new Fantasy Pros Dynasty YouTube channel. We'll bring you rookie rankings, Superflex strategy, startup draft and trade advice all year long. If you're building for the future, this channel is built for you. Just search Fantasy Pro's Dynasty channel on YouTube and hit subscribe. Fitz, how are you doing on this fine Thursday morning for me. Afternoon for you.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Doing great. You're driving people to our YouTube channel. The only thing that might discourage them is that they have to look at my face. Especially since we've had a, let's say sick dog the last couple of nights who I have had to be outside with like three times in the middle of the night. So like if the, the bags under my eyes are bigger and darker than usual, that would explain it.

[Ryan Wormley]

I have been there many times with my dog is wonderful. He has really only two flaws and one of those flaws is a weak stomach. So I have been there on more than one occasion.

[Scott Bogman]

My, my, my cats don't have to go outside so I'm jealous.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I'm Jealous.

[Ryan Wormley]

I'm not often jealous of cat owners. I don't hate cats. I just have been a dog guy my whole life. But that I love.

[Scott Bogman]

I have both. I have dogs and cats. So. But the dogs are my family members and the cat is mine. So.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah.

[Ryan Wormley]

All right, Fitz, do you want to take 30 seconds of brag about the Wisconsin Maryland game here?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah, could do that. I think we knew how that was going to work out. Not a. Not a great year for Maryland basketball. The rare year that they are a doormat. So I guess I got to get my bragging rights in while I can.

[Scott Bogman]

Worm.

[Ryan Wormley]

I don't think anyone rare in the Buzz Williams era is how we were joking about this before we started taping the show.

[Scott Bogman]

And the language is way different now.

[Ryan Wormley]

Let's just say I could do a full hour of an unfiltered, uncensored show on my feelings on Buzz Will.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Just so people know, for the record, Wisconsin beat Maryland by about 30 last night at. At Wisconsin Senior night. And the only senior I think for the Badgers was the coach's son who's like, I'm not sure if he's a walk on or a scholarship player, but he never plays. He played and he sank a long three pointer with under a minute and the place was up for grabs. They like this a kid who has literally grown up with Wisconsin basketball. So kind of cool to see.

[Ryan Wormley]

Let me, let me just hear one stat to explain how bad it is for Maryland. Maryland this century has ten 30 point losses. Five of them are this season. That's kind of wow.

[Scott Bogman]

God.

[Ryan Wormley]

There is something else we want to hit on before the Dynasty rookie rankings and that is there was a really big trade in the NFL just this morning. DJ Moore going from the Bears to the Bills. I believe it was DJ Moore and a fifth in return for a second from the Buffalo Bills. Obviously we're focused on the rookies today, so we wanted to just hit this at the top of the show because it doesn't really make sense to work it in the rankings later. But I mean, Josh Allen gets his sort of a number one receiver. I mean he's, he's been that at, at times in the past. A guy who has played with Joe Brady before when they were in Carolina and had some really good seasons with Joe Brady calling plays with DJ Moore, it opens up room for Fitz's favorite Dynasty asset, I think in the entire league, Luther Burden, to have more opportunity in Chicago. Just a really interesting trade from both dynasty and redraft perspective all the way Around Fitz.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Brilliant segue by you bringing up Maryland basketball and then going to a Maryland player, DJ Moore. Um, so it maybe the rare trade that seems like it's got far more winners than losers as a result of this. I think this is good for all of the Bears pass catchers because it declutters the target situation in Chicago. Now it's a pretty clear three way with Roma, Dun, Colston Lovel and Luther Burden. That's great. It was. It was messy when DJ Moore was there. Too great for DJ Moore. I don't think he. And there. There was a weird lack of chemistry. I thought, like, it got a little better last year, but it seemed like DJ Moore and Caleb Williams were never quite on the same page. So fresh start for DJ Moore with Josh Allen and as you mentioned, the. The Joe Brady connection. Seems like we're probably going to get a better year out of DJ More than we've gotten the last two seasons. I guess the losers are maybe Khalil Shakir and Keon Coleman. Keon. Well, Keon Coleman, I mean, that was already a loser. The writing was on the wall there. Maybe Dalton Kincaid to a small degree, but, you know, obviously helps Josh Allen. So, yeah, I mean, it's winners all around. I suppose if you want a galaxy brain, it maybe this could hurt the Chicago pass catchers and Caleb Williams in that now they have extra ammo to improve their defense and won't be in quite as many shootouts. But yeah, I'm not going to go that far. I do wonder, I do wonder if the Bears use that extra pick as part of their ammunition to go and get max Crosby now.

[Scott Bogman]

100%.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah. I think that's a big reason why they made this trade, is to get more assets to try to go get Crosby. I still, I mean, they seem pretty staunch that they don't want to trade him the. The Raiders, so. But I do think that this is, like you said, Fitzy for fantasy. This is great for everybody. It's a good boost for Burden. It's a nice boost for Loveland to see more targets for Roma. Dunes a to see more targets as well. Finally gets Josh Allen at number one. Should free up some things for Shakir. So maybe take some targets away from him, but he should be more open now. So, yeah, this is one of those trades that I think in the fantasy world benefits pretty much everybody.

[Ryan Wormley]

Obviously you can't really get much higher in the rankings than Josh Allen is, but do you guys think this does actually help him in terms of just what he will be as a fantasy quarter. I mean he's really benefited from a Maryland Terrapins receiver in the past. He took his big step forward when they acquired Stefan Diggs all those years ago. Now they get another terp for him to throw to. Is this a needle mover for him? Even if in the rankings he can't really get much higher.

[Scott Bogman]

Bogman needle mover, I don't know if I would say because like you said, I don't know if he can go much higher. But it has to be better for him, right? Like you have a premier wide receiver now and who is clearly better than the rest of the guys on this team and he should make everybody better by default. So yeah, I think this does have to improve Josh Allen a little bit. Maybe not move the needle, but it definitely, it cannot hurt him.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I don't think they're done either. I wouldn't be surprised if they took a Day 2 receiver, a Chris Brazil type and you know, added so he'll have probably two new pass catchers. Add those guys onto Shakir and Kincaid and you've. Now you're starting to cook. Like he has been grossly undermanned as far as pass catchers and now they're finally starting to rectify that. Brandon Bean, though, kind like was this kind of an overpay for the Bills, you think they got a, they got a fifth round pick back but they sent a late second. So not Quite a top 50 pick, but close.

[Ryan Wormley]

I think probably like I would classify it as an overpay and also like this class is a little weaker, but that seems to be. I know Daniel Jeremiah was saying that this kind of range, that late second is sort of the sweet spot of the draft in his opinion. So like even if the draft it's overall is kind of down, there are still picks that are going to net good players here that they're, they're giving. Getting rid of. I think, I think maybe an overpay but like I'm a big believer that and this applies to both dynasty and in the NFL that people are too focused on like winning the pure value of the trade and not about just like what makes your team better. Like this makes the team better. This helps the most important person in the entire organization and Josh Allen. I think if they also take like a receiver in the first round, I'd be super on board with that and

[Scott Bogman]

just say, hey, let's like double down

[Ryan Wormley]

on this and this really makes sure this is not, not not just no longer a weakness but now a strength. I'm Fine. With an overpay, you have to overpay to get good receivers.

[Scott Bogman]

That's it.

[Ryan Wormley]

You can debate if DJ Moore is that at this point, but yeah, Bogman, you have to overpay if you want to get a guy like this.

[Scott Bogman]

How many teams have been trying to get two for a long time? I know the Steelers have been trying to do it. They tried to trade for iuk. They tried to trade for Brian Thomas. He tried to trade for so many guys last season, and it's just the asking price was too much. So I think it kind of got to the point where you're just going to have to overpay. So go ahead and do it and get it done and like Worm said, make it a strength where it was a weakness.

[Ryan Wormley]

It's a philosophical question. If overpaying is what market value is, is it still an overpay? If that's just what the going process is like, that's.

[Scott Bogman]

I mean, I think it still can be just from, you know, where you stand and in, you know, three years, I'm going to look back at this trade. The. The Bills will not care what they paid if they win a Super Bowl. They will not care at all what they paid if they want a Super Bowl. So maybe an overpay, but a necessary one, I think, in my opinion, anyway.

[Ryan Wormley]

All right, let's get to the rookie rankings here. We're going to go position by position, like I said, and then kind of throughout, sprinkle in our thoughts on where, where some of these names fit kind of in the larger scheme of overall rankings. We also are going to be doing a Super Flex rookie mock next week. So that will also kind of help shape how we see is the order of these guys going against each other. So be on the lookout for that one coming next week. Quarterbacks, a really easy one. At the top is Fernando Mendoza. Obviously no reason for that to have changed. Post combine, he's was the number one pick. He is the number one pick. This will not change. It's as much of an obvious favorite as it's been in a while. So I don't even think we should waste any time here. Like, if you guys want to talk about him, you can, but like, he. I mean, I guess the only real question is, like, him versus Love in rookie drafts. Like, you know, in a Super Flex rookie draft, if Love did enough to say, like, he would supplant him even in that format. But, like, amongst the quarterbacks, there's nothing to talk about here.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Fitz agreed. Number one with the Bullets and probably the obvious one or two. Like I understand that people are over the moon about Love. Who is one of the better prospects to have come out in recent years. How you order him with Bijan Robinson, Ashton Genty, Saquon, Barkley, if you want to go back a little further, totally up for debate. But he, he is, if not in that category, just right on the cusp of it. So I get why Love is the consensus 101 even in Super Flex.

[Ryan Wormley]

Bogman, any thoughts on Mendoza or can we get to QB2 here?

[Scott Bogman]

It's love all the way.

[Ryan Wormley]

So yeah, for you, Mendoza at the top of quarterback, the rest of the quarterbacks here, Ty Simpson, like I would say is the consensus QB2. It's not that people tend to feel strongly about it from what I can tell. It's just he's the name that most commonly is coming up in that spot for you, Bogman. I mean first of all, you guys both do have Ty Simpson as your QB2 as well. Do you see a case for Ty Simpson to be a first round quarterback or is this just like he's only getting talked about there because of the nature of the class? Like if you, if it's possible for you to set aside the context of this being such a weak class of the position, does he feel like somebody that is worth taking a swing on in the first Allah, like Jackson Daugherty a year ago if you know somebody trading into the late first something like that?

[Scott Bogman]

No, I don't think he is. But I think he will be taken in the first round. Because you said it's just a lack of choices, right? And there's not a lot of good quarterbacks as free agents. There's one, it's Malik Willis. He already has strong ties to the Cardinals. The jets would overpay, you know, so I just, I think for teams are desperate for a quarterback, yes, Ty Simpson is probably going to go, but I don't think he should. He would be a second round pick to me if I were a GM in this class is pretty weak at quarterback.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Wait, can I, can I interject though with that? Like I'm not as sure he is a first rounder as you are Bogman, because like, okay, do you want to, do you want to commit to him and if you're taking him in the first round it's kind of a commitment or do you want to sort of punt the quarterback position, kick the can down the road a year till next year when it looks like, and I know we, we thought this year's quarterback class was going to be good, as some people pointed out to me on Twitter. I don't think that means next year's class is going to be bad.

[Ryan Wormley]

Right.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

A lot of these guys opted to stay in school. Like we've got, you know, Dante Moore, obviously Lenora Sellers. Yeah, Lenora Sellers. Trinidad Chambliss wanting to go back and then alongside some of that and like Darian Mansa who I guess technically was eligible this year. But then there's some pretty exciting guys Julian saying. And so it's a really good class is my point. And I don't know if you want to really hit your wagon to Ty Simpson with a first round pick when you might have a dozen, half a dozen worthy first round quarterbacks next year.

[Scott Bogman]

I agree with you and I think that it shouldn't happen, but I think it just always does, right? Like just some team decides that Ty Simpson is their guy and they, you know, I think the real reason is, is because you get that extra year of control with a quarterback if you trade back into like the end of the first. So I could see somebody trying to trade up into the back of the first round just to try to get that extra year for Ty Simpson which would technically make him a first round pick. I don't think he should go there. I don't think any of these guys outside of Mendoza are worthy of a first round pick. And I think midway through the second is where I would even start considering them against the rest of the board. And the rest of the board isn't that great, you know, as compared to a lot of other draft classes. So I think there's a lot of good clipboard holders here. There's a lot of guys with experience that could come in and you know, save you for a game, save you for two games, something like that. But long term starters, I just don't know that we have a lot here.

[Ryan Wormley]

So let me ask you guys this then on Simpson, where is he going in rookie drafts for you overall if he is a first round pick, let's say like in the 20s somewhere versus if he's a second round pick, how much will your ranking of him in terms of an overall big board of rookies in this class change based on the draft capital that he gets day one versus day two? Bogman.

[Scott Bogman]

I mean I have him at 24 in a one QB draft so I would probably get him up to like,

[Ryan Wormley]

let's think Super Flex. There's got to be any interest for him. Yeah, Super Flex. Where is he if he's a first rounder. Where is he?

[Scott Bogman]

If he's I'm put him in 14. So he's a second rounder to me in most drafts and that's what.

[Ryan Wormley]

That's. If he's a first round pick.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, if he's a first round pick, I, you know, I'll consider him kind of the same. If he's, you know, in that Jackson Dart to Tyler Schuck range, I don't think I'll change him. So he'd have to go much higher for me to move him higher or much lower for me to bury him.

[Ryan Wormley]

What do you think, Fitz? What kind of difference would it be for you? First round versus second round?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Right now I've got him at 11. I don't think I'm going to move him any higher than that and I might drop him a little bit if he goes in the second round. But me having him at 11 is more how I feel about the class in general than it is about me really liking Ty Simpson.

[Ryan Wormley]

You guys have the same QB3, the same QB4, the same QB5 and the same QB6. It does differ a little bit with ECR. QB3, you have Garrett Nussmeier, QB4, you both have Carson Beck, QB5, you both have Cole Payton out of North Dakota State. And QB6, you both have Taylin Green who stands out most of that group. I don't think we need to deep dive these guys. I mean obviously beyond like we don't even like Simpson, let alone the guys coming after. You know, we're not very high on nor do we expect any kind of team interesting draft capital in the NFL draft. But Fitz, when I throw those names out, Nuss Meyer, Beck, Peyton Green, who stands out to you as worth talking about?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I mean, I don't think Nuss Meyer and Beck are that interesting because I see them as like, you know, future maybe longer term backups who maybe get a chance to start at some point. But I think the interesting guys are Peyton and Green because these guys are athletic freaks. Really wildly athletic guys. And I think with Green who was just man, this guy tested like a. What did he run at the combine?

[Scott Bogman]

I It was like a 4, 3, 6. Yeah.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

And he did this at 66 and 227 pounds. So. But then again with Taylor Green, I mean we could also see him possibly take the Logan Thomas path in the NFL. Logan Thomas was what he Boggs, was he. He was Virginia Tech, right? Or was it West Virginia? Virginia Tech Bot Tech. Tall, big, hyper, athletic quarterback prospect who eventually moved to tight end and like, didn't really pan out. It was never really fantasy relevant but did have a pretty, you know, played in the NFL long enough to get a pension. So I wonder if we maybe see Taylor Green take the same sort of route and a positional change in his future.

[Ryan Wormley]

What is the kind of process between liking Peyton ahead of Green? If these are both kind of like not very proven super athletic guys, what do you like better about Peyton?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Maybe more likely to stick at quarterback.

[Ryan Wormley]

That's the difference for you.

[Scott Bogman]

Okay, I think so too. Like, I think those are the two guys with the, you know, swing upside. I have Nussmeier and Beck ahead of them because those guys have had a lot of starts, so it's much more likely that they see some action earlier. Those guys are true. Like, hey man, they could be Pro bowlers in two or three seasons like Jordan Love or they could be in the CFL next year. Right. Like, I think there are wide ranging outcomes for Cole Payton and Taylor Green which make them dicey to draft.

[Ryan Wormley]

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[Scott Bogman]

I still have Jadarian Price. I think that he would have had way more Buzz if he hadn't been sitting behind Jeremiah Love, right. Like, and he wanted to play for Notre Dame and he got to do it. And I mean he played in a Natty. They went real far with him. Obviously we wonder about the receiving profile because I think in his, you know, college career he had like 18 receptions or something. But I just, he has like. If you remember the buzz on Miles Sanders coming out of college, I feel like Darian Price is kind of the same way. An explosive runner who can hit a home run, a strong runner with good vision as well. And I just think he's a little bit undervalued here because he sat behind Jeremiah Love. So I'm still going to have Price in number two.

[Ryan Wormley]

It seems like for you guys, the three names I said there's a bunch of names you could consider an ecr. There's like several here. The three names that you guys have in different orders. But the three names after Love are Price, Jonah Coleman And Mike Washington Jr. Is it one of those three for you two fits that is number two.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah, it, it is Price. But I do not have many really entrenched positions with tier 2. Like I find this to be a complete jumble and like there's basically one thing I like about all of these guys. Like Jadarian Price, I like that he is commonly mocked highest. Like he is the odds on favorite to be the number two running back off the board. Jonah Coleman. I probably like his, his tape the most. You know, he's a big ten guy I guess technically with Washington. So I, I got to see him quite a bit last fall and thought he was pretty good. Mike Washington, obviously, the athleticism and the speed at his size, I mean this above average running back who runs a sub 44 really impressive. Emmett Johnson, just his productivity for Nebraska last year and you know, Nick Singleton probably has the best. Well until Washington I guess I thought Singleton was going to have the best size speed combination in the draft. And you know, Katron Allen productive too. It's just I'm a fan of the band Rush and in their song Free Will there's a lyric, if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. And I'm not going to decide on these guys because my in my Overall rankings my RB2 is comes in after 11 wide receivers. I just think the wide receivers are better. So I'm going to wait. And like I don't think that's too crazy because I was just looking at a two round mock draft that Dane Brugler of the Athletic did. Brugler is an excellent, you know, college scout scouting guy.

[Scott Bogman]

The beast every year.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah, the beast. So he had in his two round mock only two running backs going in. He had Jadarian Price going with the last pick of the second round and he had 10 wide receivers going before that Jadarian Price pick. So I feel like that's kind of the way to go. The receivers are just better than the running backs in this class other than

[Ryan Wormley]

Jeremiah Love on and Bogman. The league is telling us this that they are down in the class with. When you see like what people are paying for David Montgomery, right, like what the Texans spent to add him rather than just drafting one of these guys. Do you. Do you feel like this kind of clump of you know, five or six potential RB2s here, Bogman is more like. Like they're not in Brugler's, you know, two round mock. Do you see them as like still day two guys, like a lot of them in round three or do you even see them as more of like day three guys? Like these are like, like fourth rounders here because it does feel like a pretty big difference. Day two versus day three.

[Scott Bogman]

I remember Cam Scatter Boo was a fourth round pick last year, right. So that class was deep though. And I just think there's less desperation for running backs. I think the teams that need them are trading for them as you said. So you know the market is kind of down on RB's right now currently in the NFL. So I do think that they will probably be more between round three and round four. One or two may slip into the second, you know, two or three in the third. But I think most of these guys are going in the fourth round though. So that's kind of how I see it. But I'm with Fitzy. I have nine wide receivers ahead of Jadarian Price. I have two tight ends at a Jadarian Price and even in a one QB league we're taking Mendoza over him too. So yeah, I think we're kind of down on this class. But I would throw the one name that Fitz. He didn't say. I'm going to throw Demon Clayborne in there as well. Just the speed and the vision and the way that he can accelerate I think is going to be really good as a be back somewhere. So I would throw him in that second group as well.

[Ryan Wormley]

Fitzr. When you were listening on the names I'm not sure if you actually. Did you say Nick Singleton? He's sixth in ecr. The reason I want to bring him up is because I wonder if he would have jumped up from the combine if he'd had the chance. Just because we know he's very athletic. He obviously he was a five star recruit. He broke his foot so he wasn't able to do any of that stuff. I wonder if he would have been a combine hero. That would be more towards this RB2 conversation if he'd had the chance to kind of show off athletically.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah, I think he would have tested maybe similarly to Mike Washington. Like I don't know if he would have ran. Washington was a 43 3. I'm not sure Singleton would have been quite that fast, but I think he would have been right around 44 at a pretty good size. I think he checked in at like what, 220 pounds or something like that. So I do believe he had a chance. And since this foot injury is not something that's going to put his rookie season in jeopardy, like we shouldn't forget about him. But it's just kind of what you think of him when you watch the tape. I mean I, I think it's. He was weird. He had some really good seasons at Penn State and some really unimpressive seasons.

[Scott Bogman]

Trent Richardson.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah.

[Scott Bogman]

I mean, great athlete, has crazy burst, zero vision.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah.

[Scott Bogman]

And Katrin Allen's the opposite. Like he doesn't have that burst. He's not a crazy athlete. Great vision. So put them together there. Saquon Barkley. But you know, two different people.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

You know, the reason, the real reason I'm second guessing having Jadarin Price at number two is that because this is such a, an ordinary running back class after Jeremiah Love. I feel like pass catching is going to be important for getting these guys playing opportunities. And Jadarian Price has shown none. He might have it, but he just wasn't asked to do it at Notre Dame. There's very little to go on with him as a pass catcher. And I just. Who is going to, who is going to give Jadarian Price early down work right away? Like, I just don't see that happening.

[Scott Bogman]

Landing spot is going to matter so much for these guys. Right? Like, I mean, because if you end up being number two behind Ashton Genty or Saquon Barkley or something like that, you're not getting the touches. You know, San Francisco is probably drafting one of these guys. They got a lot of free agents. So whoever's behind CMC gets nothing. You're just a handcuff until CMC gets hurt. So landing spot is going to put a Lot of context on this group. And that is going to be the. That's going to end up being the massive separator for all these guys.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I think it's going to be really random. Who's going to get opportunities in year one? Like, it's probably whichever these running backs are. On teams where a bunch of running backs get hurt, you know, like, it might be. We might see, I don't know, Kalyn Black, he might be the 12th running back off the board, but maybe he

[Scott Bogman]

goes goal line carries. Yeah.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Or a team just has a wave of injuries and all of a sudden they have to play him and. And he comes through like. I feel like it's going to be less about getting opportunities on the merits than just kind of locking your way into it.

[Scott Bogman]

Crosby, merit from last year. Yeah.

[Ryan Wormley]

So Love is a top two pick in rookie drafts. You guys, because of all the receivers, basically don't have any of these guys in the rest of round one. So round two is going to be very heavy on Price, Coleman, Johnson, Allen, Washington, Singleton, etc. Who are the names that would be going in round three of rookie drafts that interest you? Or is that going to be like, still a lot more receivers just because of the depth or are there names? I mean, looking at ecr, you know, there's names like Adam Randall, Roman Hemby, Seth McGowan, Jaden Ott. Like, who are names that you guys are gonna be interested in inside? You know, they're not gonna be players that you're aggressively trading up to try and go get. But that, like, you know, in that 25 to 36 range of rookie drafts, you might have some interest in fits or. Or is it like nobody and there'll just be more receivers?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I mean, Adam Randall is the one who really interests me because he's a converted wide receiver, so we know he's probably capable of catching passes. And he ran a 450 at 232 pounds. And I think he did a bunch of reps on the bench press too. Like just a big dude with some pass catching aptitude. So I'm interested in him as just. And I know he's raw. Like, he didn't become a running back until his final year at Clemson, so basically just has one season of running back experience. But man, the raw tools are something I'm sure some NFL team is going to be really intrigued by. And it wouldn't surprise me if he maybe like snuck into the end of day two.

[Ryan Wormley]

Bogman.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah.

[Scott Bogman]

The only other name that I have is outside of Adam Randall because I do have him in there as well. But is Seth McGowan running back from Kentucky? A lot of off the field issues, but 6 foot 223, ran a 44 9, very, very athletic guy who had some really interesting tape and a lot of bursts. So excited to see him. But beyond that, like, I don't know, maybe Jam Miller, Kaylin Black, Jamari Taylor get drafted to some good spots. I know there's some love for Robert Henry Jr. But not a lot beyond those guys.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I'm not a scout so I'm not good at assessing the on field workouts. But like Jam Miller kind of caught my eye of just the way I like the way that guy moves and

[Scott Bogman]

a lot of experience too for Jamie. So might not be bad, but it's going to have to be. It's going to have to be situations for these guys that end up going somewhere. And like Fitzy said, a running back gets hurt or, you know, gets traded or something happens and it's next man up. So I just, we're going to have to see where these guys land to get their true value.

[Ryan Wormley]

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[Ryan Wormley]

All right, fellas, let's get to the wide receivers, the kind of obvious Tier one that we've been talking about for a couple of months now. Carnell, Tate, Makai, Lemon, Jordan, Tyson. That is the order. I have had them pretty much this whole time. It's the order. Ecr currently has them. It's your order. Both of you have them according to the sheet I'm looking at here. Let me know if that's changed at all. But it's not to say there's a lot of separation, even though, like, sometimes when you see everybody agrees that this guy's one, everybody agrees that this guy's two. Like, it feels like because it's such a consensus that it means there's a wide gap. There's not a wide gap here. We just happen to all agree in this order. But the they are very close to each other. And in the dynasty trade value chart, Fitz and I did a show on that earlier this week. They were like, I think six spots apart total between them in that chart in terms of value. So Tate and Lemon, little bit of separation ahead of Tyson. Obviously, that's really injury driven, but it's these three and then everybody else.

[Scott Bogman]

I have an interesting question for Fitzy because I asked at first, but if I made you move somebody, Tate, Lemon, or Tyson, who would. Who moves Fitzy?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

What do you mean moves?

[Scott Bogman]

Like. Like, if you have to change your ranking and I say, look, this is not it. You have to move one guy somewhere. Where do they move between Tate, Lemon, and Tyson?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I'd move Tyson up to either one or two.

[Ryan Wormley]

I knew that's what you were going to say, because if he's healthy, then

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I think he might look low. I think he might be the best prospect of all of them. But, like, it's. If I feel that way, I don't feel like he's best by a lot either. Over T. I think these guys are really, really close. And the. The easy tie break is Tyson's injury history. So he's kind of easy to put at number three, but I think I might like him the most of all these guys, and I think he might have the highest upside. So it's just like there was some separation in the Overall Dynasty rankings. ECR. What it was like Tate was 18 and Tyson was 24. Like that. Even though it's only six spots, it shouldn't be that big a gap. They're really close, and I wouldn't be a bit surprised. I know every mock draft has Tate going ahead of Tyson. Wouldn't shock me at all if Tyson went ahead of Tate. If teams are ran him through the medicals at the combine and were totally confident that the knee he wrecked back in, what, 20, 22 was totally fine. Would not shock me if Tyson was the first receiver drafted.

[Ryan Wormley]

Bogman, what's your answer? To that. Who would you move if you had to move one?

[Scott Bogman]

I put Lemon up at one and move Tate and move Tate down just a spot because I, you know, Tate has had some injury stuff as well. But like Fitzy said, you just never know what is, what is an actual injury. What is staying out of games to preserve your NFL future, you know what I mean? And get the big, big money. So I think that that is a legitimate question. And like Fitzy said, you know, the teams are going to know better than us because they get to run their medicals. So I, that's probably just to hedge my bets as I put the guy that hasn't had the injury history the other two had up at the top.

[Ryan Wormley]

Bogman, what was your reaction to Tate running a, you know, reportedly. Not reportedly, but a slower 40 time? I guess I say reportedly because there were some scouts that I guess hand

[Scott Bogman]

faster, but just ridiculousness around that worm is so eye rolling, bro. Like, dude, why are we measuring it? And then you're telling us that the measurement could be wrong. What are you talking about? It has, this is done with radar.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

It maybe has something to do with. I thought they said, like, it's like

[Ryan Wormley]

when your hand moves first.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah.

[Ryan Wormley]

The electronic one starts and his hand like starts sooner than other guys or something.

[Scott Bogman]

Like.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

No, his hand starts like he. It starts a later. Like he has a different way of doing it. So. Yeah, I think it's much ado about nothing, man.

[Scott Bogman]

Like, this answer is I do not care about his 40 time even a little bit.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah. The other thing too is like, his speed is not the reason I'm interested in him. Like, he's, he's fast enough. Right? He's not. If he runs like, you know, a 5, 2 40, like, you know, something insane. Yes. Then you, you become, you know, undraftable. But if it's.

[Scott Bogman]

He's fast enough to route up a corner.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah. If it's a tenth of a second slower, yes. He's still very good. I'm not at all worried about it.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

If you were going to be bothered by anything about Carnell Tate, and I'm not saying this does bother me, it's the fact that like, you know, Jordan Tyson was the number one receiver on his team and Ohio State, whoever's game planning against Ohio State had to worry about Jeremiah Smith first and foremost because he's an absolute monster and is going to be one of the best wide receiver prospects ever to come out of college when he eventually comes out next year. But I'm not worried about that. Because when you watch Carnell Tate, it's just a highlight play after highlight play downfield. Like, the guy's just a fantastic. He's so good at adjusting to the ball in the air. Like, that's the thing I like most about Carnell Tay. Like, he just.

[Scott Bogman]

And people get, I think people are getting, you know, fatigue from all these Ohio State wide receivers being great. But they're all great, right? Like, almost all of them have come out and been awesome. JSN just won a Super Bowl. You know, Garrett Wilson only played six games and led his team in receptions. Chris Olave looked great, you know, after, after not having 100 concussions this year. So, I mean, there's just. They are a wide receiver producing factory, right?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Iron sharpens, iron man. If you want to see the field in Columbus, you. You better be good.

[Ryan Wormley]

Do you guys still feel. We talked early on in this process about the, the strength of the receivers in this year's class is the depth, not the high end guys. Like, it doesn't feel like. And again, viewing them as prospects, not what they've done in the NFL. It doesn't feel like there's a Marvin Harrison Jr. A Malik neighbors. These like, super, super step in, like gonna be a wide receiver wanted dynasty the day they get to the NFL types of guys. But they're still very good. They're still like inside the top 20, just more like later in the top 20 than towards the top 10. Do you still feel that way, Bogman? Did you ever feel that way or is that just me kind of making that up where they're very good, but maybe not the elite prospects entering the NFL.

[Scott Bogman]

I, I think, I think the thing that, But I would say the one bone I'd have to pick with that thought process is the fact that, you know, none of these guys are fully formed and completely done learning and growing. Right. So who thought Amanda St. Brown was going to be a top five wide receiver in the NFL when he came in? Not many people. Right. So there's a lot of meat on the bone for these guys to learn and grow and they already have a lot of talent. So I would say coming into the NFL, there's. There is no Malik neighbors. But we thought Marvin Harrison Jr. Was a generational type guy.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, yeah. Just talking about prospects. Right, of course.

[Scott Bogman]

But that means that's the process, right? Is as prospects, these guys are not done learning, you know, they're not completely formed, you know, players quite yet. So I think, I think you're right in the fact that there is no crazy upside here with, you know, like a generational prospect, but these guys could all, I think those top three guys could all be wide receiver ones, you know, by the end of their second season and no one would be super shocked by that.

[Ryan Wormley]

The next two, Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston have been the next two for a while. By the way. Tate Lemon and Tyson in pretty much every draft and ranking we've done have been 3, 4 and 5 in the overall kind of rookie conversation behind Love and Mendoza Conception in Boston are guys that you guys. At least the sheet I'm looking at have it reversed. Who you like better. It doesn't really matter. They're both going to be in that like, you know, six to eight range in rookie drafts. Like, they're, they're good players. We like them. I want to ask you guys, the guy after him that you both have at six, Omar Cooper Jr. Did you give any consideration to putting him ahead of either Concepcion or Boston? Or do you see those as like a mini tier that Cooper is like sort of definitively at the end of? Because he has been early in the conversation, seems like they're starting to be a bit more hyper. Him, he's getting a lot of talk as a first round pick going guy who might go in the 20s in this class. Do you think there's a chance he's inside the top five for you or is he pretty solidified at six fits?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I have thought about moving him up to four or five. I have mentioned that I've got some family ties to Indiana University and was really locked in on their football program this year and watched a lot of them and I think Omar Cooper is just fantastic. This dude is so tough. Like the play that encapsulates it for me and I wish I could remember the opponent but like he just like a little five yard catch over the middle. He gets just absolutely rocked in the helmet by a guy who got ejected for targeting. I think he had and still makes the catch. I think he had to sit out one play and then he came back and I think he had like a first down reception on the very first play. He was back. Like, this guy is just so tough but like great after the catch. Blocks his tail off. There's a lot to like here. So. Yeah. And now seeing things, I think in the aforementioned Dane Brugler's latest mock draft bogs, I think he had your Steelers taking OMAR COOPER At 21.

[Scott Bogman]

I, you know, I'm, I'm 100% with you and you were the, the OG Omar Cooper guy. I. But I do think that I have him higher in the overall than you do now. I just watching this guy more and more and more, he just reminds me of Depot, you know, hopefully without that attitude. So I think he's in that tier. I haven't at the bottom of it now, but landing spot is going to, you know, mean a lot here.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Landing spot and draft capital for those three. Concepcion, Boston and Cooper.

[Scott Bogman]

He's in that group. No doubt to me. Yep.

[Ryan Wormley]

So let me ask you this. Who's wide receiver seven? Because one through six, obviously, like I said, you guys switch a little on Boston versus Concepcion, but 1 through 6 is basically the same order for you guys and for ECR is basically the same order. Seven is where you start to see some again, personal preference, just guys that you might start to like better than consensus or worse than consensus. So I want to ask each of you at Bogman, I'll start with you. Who's wide receiver seven in this class?

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, I have a group of three here that I kind of go back and forth between, and it's Jeremy Bernard in the two Bells, Chris Bell and Skylar Bell. And I know I'm higher than a lot of people on Skylar Bell. I do not care. The guy is. He killed the combine. I think he's going to be great. And Chris Bell is a guy that's injured this season. Coming into this season. He tore his ACL in college, so we're going to have to wait on him for a big chunk of the year, which is why I would have him lower. I think I would probably have him ahead of Dental Boston and in that, you know, in that group ahead of Casey Concepcion and probably ahead of Omar Cooper Jr. If he was healthy coming in here. But it's Jeremy Bernard for me as number seven. The Hands are incredible. Doesn't get bumped off routes a lot as well. Obviously had a Jekyll and Hyde season, but that kind of went with Ty Simpson's performance this year as well. So I just think the hands are one of the best tools of all the wide receivers in this class from Jeremy Bernard, and I'm going to stick to that.

[Ryan Wormley]

Fitz, who's your wide receiver seven?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

It's Elijah Surratt right now, but I don't feel strongly about this. Like, I've. I've just got him. I feel like he and Jeremy Bernard and Malachi Fields and maybe Chris Brazil are all right there together, and it's hard for me to separate them. What I like about Surat is he's. He's big, really reliable hands and I think like of all the receivers in this class, maybe he had the highest passer rating on targeted throws to him. But then again he played with Fernando Mendoza's final year so that

[Scott Bogman]

junior.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah, right, right. So I like all those guys. I mean obviously the, the size speed combo with Brazil is really intoxicating. I mean Bernard really good week at the combine. I think Malachi Fields, I know some people are going to knock him because he ran what's perceived to be a slow 40 time. But when you factor in his size, I think his, I want to say that player profile still has his speed score in like the 74th percentile. So like any, any notion that like the, the 40 time is going to really dock Malachi Fields in the draft. I don't know if that's accurate.

[Ryan Wormley]

So in looking at the kind of shape of the first round in rookie drafts, we have one quarterback in Mendoza, we have one running back in love because you guys are down on the

[Scott Bogman]

rest of the class.

[Ryan Wormley]

There's the six receivers that we all kind of agree on earlier and then there are two tight ends which we'll get to at the end of the show. So that's six receivers, two times ends eight. One running back, one quarterback. That's 10. The last two spots in rookie, you know, mocks to fill out the 12. Are those just going to be receiver of. Of your choice fits whether it's Seurat or you know, based on landing spot, you know, becomes Bernard or whoever. Malachi Fields. Is there a chance that it could be like well by the time we get to early may that it could be one of the running backs or is it just going to be like hey, however these wide receivers shake out, that will kind of be the 11 and 12 in drafts in your opinion?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I think it'll probably depend on like there will be a couple eye opening things as far as like where guys get drafted and that's maybe going to move the needle. But I think if we were doing it a rookie draft today or multiple rookie drafts today, 100 rookie drafts today, I'll bet Mike Washington is going 111 or 112 and 90% of those drafts.

[Ryan Wormley]

Do you feel like in terms of your rankings Bogman, is that a fair assessment of mine that there's kind of like a clear top 10 just in the way we've talked about it so far and then not even that it's like they're going to be terrible picks but just like the more question marks start to come in about like, what is this order going to look like at 11? Or do you see kind of a break differently?

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, I mean, I think that I. I think the break may be like after Mendoza, I have him at nine. So after that, my 10, 11, 12.

[Ryan Wormley]

Just be clear, that's in a 1Q. He's talking. Yeah.

[Scott Bogman]

And 1 QB. So in a super flex, put. Put him at two. Right. So. But after that, I would say, you know, in a super Flex, you'd consider where Ty Simpson lands. Of course. Maybe even if. If Garrett Nussmeier goes ahead of him for whatever reason, if he lands in a good spot. Like Tyler Schuck kind of was out of nowhere last year. Jackson Darwin was in the first run out of nowhere last year. But then currently I have Stowers, Bernard Bell. But I look at the tiers that I have here and I could have all the way down to my 19th. Guy right now is Jonah Coleman. I could easily have him at number 10 if he ends up in a really great scenario. Like if he's the Titans lead back after they make improvements at wide receiver through free agency. Right. Like, and add another wide receiver. Now all of a sudden this. The O line's fixed, Cam Ward has targets and Jonah Coleman is the lead back. You know, he's going to move way up in that center.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Fair to say, Boggs, we don't feel great about whoever we respectively have at 112. Yeah, like, I've got Elijah Surrot there. Like, I feel good about Elijah Surratt in the second round. I don't want to draft him at 112.

[Scott Bogman]

Honestly, I get to nine and I start to get queasy.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah, that.

[Scott Bogman]

That's. That's where it is for me. So I'm even before that at, at 9, I start to go. I just really don't know what this is going to look like. I think I have my top nine locked in, but after that, I just don't know.

[Ryan Wormley]

So looking at some of these other names, deeper at receiver and like I said, we'll get to the tight ends later. Obviously everybody knows, like we're talking about Sadiq and Stowers as those two, you know, potentially in the first round, but we'll dive deeper in that position at the end of the show. As far as the rest of the receivers go, you know, Zachariah Branch, Jacoby Lane, Malachi Field, Skyler Bell. You guys have mentioned some of these names already. Even going a little further, like Bryce Lance, Ted Hurst. I know there has some fans out there. Is this a Group. When you look at wide receiver, let's say like 12 through 20, that you think is better or worse than most years wide receiver, 12 ish through 20 fits.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

The deeper you go into this receiver class, I think the more favorable it looks against other classes, which isn't to say better, but at least it's comparable at the top. It's probably not as good as your typical wide receiver class. It's deep, but not necessarily a really good class. I think there are a lot of interesting guys, but I don't think the hit rate with this wide receiver class is going to be above average relative to other classes. I think the bulge is in the middle. Below average.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah. So, yeah, the bulge is in the middle where you don't want it to be.

[Ryan Wormley]

Right.

[Scott Bogman]

Like, there's a lot of medium talent here that could ascend and become great. Just like you said, warm. I have Surat Fields and Brazil. Kind of my next group after Bernard Bell in the Bells. And then I have Ted Hurst and Zachariah Branch, Antonio Williams, Bryce Lance. And then it kind of gets. It gets real fuzzy after that. I feel like.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I feel like we're all sort of dancing around, like, you know, the fact that this class kind of sucks, let's be totally honest. I mean, like, there's upside though. They're going to be hits for sure. But like, when you. We want to like every class and fall in love with these guys because this is the most exciting time of dynasty season. Like, we get excited about the rookie drafts and everything, but, like, if you want to declare that every class is good, then no class is good. You know what I mean? Like, we're about to see a monster class in 2027. I'm confident in that. Like, we are going to be hyper excited about next year's class. This year's class just isn't good. But hey, we still have to like, parse it and take our shots in rookie drafts and figure out who can help us. It's just if you. The hit rates are going to be bad this year.

[Ryan Wormley]

That's like, if you take Zachariah branch, like 20th overall or like Bryce Lance,

[Pat Fitzmorris]

a guy who, a guy who ran screens on 57% of his routes or

[Ryan Wormley]

whatever, what is your mindset going to be if you are like, hey, I could use a receiver. It's, it's the, it is deeper in this class. Like, I'm taking Bryce Lance and, or, you know, whoever. In the early middle third round of the rookie draft, are you walking away being like, yeah, I'm Feeling good. Like, I'm excited to see what he does. You're gonna walk away being like, I had to take someone.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Pretty much I had to take someone.

[Scott Bogman]

But I think I'm gonna feel the way I feel when I buy a Powerball ticket.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah, like, exactly. You know, maybe.

[Scott Bogman]

Maybe you have to play to win, but I don't think I'm winning, you know? Yeah.

[Ryan Wormley]

All right, let's go to the tight ends here. Obviously there are two names that stand above the rest. We already had Kenyon Siddiq and eli stowers as 1 and 2 in the class and then they proceeded to like shatter records at the combine and just like, really like, jaw dropping performances. Bogman, I asked Fitz this on Tuesday's show and I want to ask you to. We talk a lot about not double counting. We already knew that Kenyon Siddiq was really, really an athletic specimen. So we are a little hesitant. Well, I should say I am a little hesitant to kind of bump him up too much after the combine because, yeah, we knew he was athletic. Here he is showing he's an athletic freak. We already knew that. Why are we like now over the moon about it now? Him being an athletic freak versus him like, like breaking records? There is like another level there that was very impressive by him. But what was your thought watching Sadiq and Stowers, guys that we knew were athletes, really prove just how athletic they were by breaking records at the combine. And did it move the needle for you in terms of where they are ranked in your overall rankings?

[Scott Bogman]

It did because it moved the scouts. Needles. Right. Like, I think it had to. When, you know, there's this overarching thought process and I'm part of it as well. And I know you guys are with me that the combine is becoming a little bit eye rolling because guys are just not doing all of the things right. Like, no one's running the three cone anymore. Hardly anyone's doing the bench. Guys are sitting out the 40 because they know they're not going to be running a great time. They're not doing the broader divert if they don't want to. The shuttle is a forgotten art. Right? Like, so I heard Dane Brugler talking about this. Like, how can Makai Lemonade sit up there on the podium and say, I'm the most competitive guy here and then not compete in anything? So for these guys to go out and do it and look great and set records, I think does move the needle right. Even in a class where, look, you don't want to count it Twice. You don't want to say, hey, look, I knew Eli Sours is going to be a good receiving tight end. I knew Kenyon Siddiq was a great athlete, but I didn't know to this level and I think that's fair to say. So it moved the needle for me because you could see the reaction and hear what the scouts were saying about these guys to say that they were very, very impressed. And I think, you know, Sam Roush did all the stuff and I heard a lot of gushing about him as well. So yeah, I think with those guys in particular, it does move the needle because this class is weak and because I think it kind of reset the expectations on those guys according to the scouts.

[Ryan Wormley]

Fitz, where are those two Sadiq and Stowers for you in the overall rookie rankings right now? Are they both clearly first round picks? Is Stower still kind of borderline? I mean, Sadiq's number one at the position. Where do they kind of fit for you at the moment?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

In Super Flex, I have Sadiq 7 and Star Wars 10. And you know, it's funny where I'm like, so I mean, I think there's not that big a gap between the two of these guys. And one of the reason, reasons I'm, I'm why I have Sadiq ahead of Stowers is that I think Sadiq might be better able to play in line, which generally means more snaps. It was pretty interesting at the combine. Sadiq only weighed two more pounds than Stowers, so. And I know Sadiq like is a better blocker, but maybe he won't be able to play in line full time at his size. I mean he's six three. He's actually an inch shorter than Stowers. He's six three Star six four. So it kind of depends where he goes. I, I might even squeeze these guys closer together than, than that. I mean one, one of these two guys won the John Mackey award and it wasn't Kenyan Sadiq.

[Ryan Wormley]

Stowers Sours is two years older for what it's worth, but Sadiq just turned 21 actually yesterday as of this recording,

[Pat Fitzmorris]

which, which is appealing for sure that Sadiq was able and maybe like that's kind of one of the knocks that Sadiq did not put up crazy good numbers. But that would be more worrisome if he were 22 or 23 and was not dominating against younger competition, but instead like he was going up a guy against guys typically older than he was. I, like, I don't want to badmouth Kenyan Sadiq at all. He's a really interesting prospect. I don't think he's on the level of Loveland and Tyler Warren last year, but still a fantastic prospect.

[Ryan Wormley]

Who is tight end three and where is tight end three in your overall rankings? If these guys are. If Sadiq and Stowers are both inside your top 10 in the overall rankings, who is number three and Bogman, I'll start with you. I know you mentioned Sam Roush from some Stanford. Is he tight in three and if so, where is he going for you?

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, he's three for me and I have him. I need to move him up from where I have him, but I'll have him probably at like 25, so. And I have those guys in a Super Flex at 7 and 11, Sadiq and Sour. So yeah, for me it's a pretty big drop off. But I did, you know, the more and more I watched Sam Roush and the fact that he competed and everybody, I mean he also was great, right. And moved great, but the more I watch him I feel like there's Hunter Henry there. So maybe not a massive amount of upside, but a pretty good steady long term contributor. So Sam Roush is going to be number three for me.

[Ryan Wormley]

Fitz, who's three for you and where are they ranked?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I've got Max Claire, but I've got him down at 37 overall in super flex Max. We didn't, didn't get to see him do all that much for Ohio State last year because, well, you know, Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate took up a lot of oxygen as far as the pass catching for the Buckeyes. But when he was at Purdue, like he was a force as a pass catcher. I just think he's got a lot of pass catching upside Roushes for, for me he was, he was the eye opener at the combine and he's generally regarded as the best blocking tight end in the class. But then he went out and tested like a champ, which makes it suggest that he's got some pass catching upside too.

[Ryan Wormley]

So you, you have these guys as like round four picks in drafts and super flexes.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah, I mean if not draftable, you just want to go fishing. I mean there are like a lot of interesting guys in this, this tight end class who could pan out. Like I know a lot of people are excited about Michael Trigg, although the tape isn't real exciting on him. Tanner Koziel is sort of, I love Tanner Cozio.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah. You know, Trig to Trig is one of those guys that's just rocked up and looks like he should be amazing. And then he like Fitz said, yeah, watch him. And you're like, why are you not better?

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Justin Jolly is another guy like that who looks like he should be fantastic and maybe he could be or whatever. And I got to put in a word for my guy, Riley Nowakowski. Since we went to the same high school, Indiana's tight end last year, I've got him at like tight end 10. I don't think I'm going to be drafting Riley even in five round rookie drafts.

[Ryan Wormley]

Is Fitz like sneaky a Hoosiers fan instead of the Badgers all over Indiana so far?

[Scott Bogman]

Hard to not be infatuated with Indiana this year right now for sure. Noah Kowski was a big part of that. But yeah, I think Fitz is right. There's a lot of maybes here and maybes are tough to draft specifically at the tight end position. Right. Maybe Jack Injuries makes it. He was better at Cal with Mendoza. Right. So he's much better at Cal than he was at Texas last year. But they needed him to block because Texas lost so much on the O line. So he was blocking a ton. You know, Joe Royer has gotten some love. Oscar Delp has gotten some love. I like Dallin Bentley and yeah, yeah, Dallin Bentley is a lot of fun to watch. And Eli Reardon is a physical specimen as well. And the kid from A and M, Borker, like he had a great combine as well. So there, there are some names here that are interesting, but the overall tight end class, it's those top two guys and then a bunch of lottery tickets bugs.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Real quick. Two other guys we should mention. Remember Russell, MD, the old defensive end from the Cowboys? His son RJ is a tight end

[Scott Bogman]

in this class and he had a massive injury. He was like as a freshman he was unbelievable. Then he had a big knee injury and that has really set his career back because Hibner, who played on that same SMU team, was great at the combine as well.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

What about any interest in Jaren Kanek, the guy who was, I think he was a former linebacker.

[Scott Bogman]

Sooners at Oklahoma.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

I know. So he's an Oklahoma guy. But the story on him is like he was a linebacker and like a special teams ace. Like special teams is kind of his thing.

[Scott Bogman]

But he's making a team.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

He wanted to contribute more. So he talked to the coaches about switching a tight end. Did so successfully and then he went out and tested great at the combine.

[Scott Bogman]

So Taysom Hill.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

Yeah.

[Scott Bogman]

You know, play him wherever you use a football player, just put him wherever you want.

[Pat Fitzmorris]

So he is a, he is going to be a special teams ace. I think that's.

[Scott Bogman]

But they're all like, they're all scratch offs. You know, maybe you scratch underneath the surface and something's great, but maybe you throw it in the trash.

[Ryan Wormley]

I think the big takeaway really from the whole conversation, not just tight ends, is once you get past the first 10 to 12 picks like you're, there's gonna be a lot of players drafted who are not on your roster two years from now. So just take swings on guys who could be difference makers because, like, there's gonna be a lot of misses. I think in rounds two, three, four and five in these rookie drafts.

[Scott Bogman]

Opportunity is going to be so big. That's really what it is. Worm is opportunity is going to be so big, it's going to move the needle on these guys more than it has in any other class. So it's going to be like, are these guys going to be able to contribute early? Because if they are, we're going to be able to see. So I would just rather see. Right? So I think the landing spot is going to matter more this year than it will than it did last year and it will next year.

[Ryan Wormley]

All right, we'll go ahead and wrap things up there. Appreciate everybody checking out our post NFL Combine rookie rankings for Bogman and Fitz. I'm Ryan Wormley. We'll see you again next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast. If you love the show, the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on x Instagram and TikTok at fantasypros and subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube.com fantasy pros.

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