The 15 Biggest Fantasy Football Questions for Week 2 (Ep. 1705)

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Episode Title: The 15 Biggest Fantasy Football Questions for Week 2 (Ep. 1705)
Date: September 13, 2025
Hosts: Ryan Warmley, Derrick Brown (“DBro”), Pat Fitzmaurice
Main Theme:
The trio tackles the most pressing fantasy football questions for the upcoming Week 2, breaking down key matchups, player performances, and actionable insights based on Week 1 results. The episode features in-depth analysis, debates, and strategies to help listeners optimize their fantasy lineups.

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Packers’ Dominance and Fantasy Implications

[01:04–11:22]

Discussion Points:

• Packers as NFC Contenders:
  • Ryan picked the Packers as his NFC Super Bowl team; both he and Pat are bullish after Green Bay dominated in the first two weeks.
• Elite Defense:
  • Pat declares, “This is the best defense the Packers have had since the Reggie White, Leroy Butler... heyday in the mid to late 90s.” (01:45)
  • Micah Parsons trade is a game-changer, boosting the defense’s ceiling; unheralded secondary is stifling top offenses.
  • “This is a defense we’re going to regard like Denver’s—‘not a good matchup for my guys.’” — Pat (02:36)
• Commanders Concerns:
  • Derrick spotlights Washington’s offensive line woes, calling out Josh Conerly’s struggles and Kingsbury’s unimaginative play-calling. (04:28)
  • “Dude’s having to hold guys so Jaden Daniels doesn’t get like crushed into smithereens.” — Derrick (03:54)
• Packers’ Offense:
  • Jordan Love is a value, but pass-catchers remain a roulette.
  • Jaden Reed injury makes WR roles murkier; consensus is “Tucker Kraft or nobody” at pass-catcher outside of Jacobs. (08:14)
  • “It’s wide receiver by committee. You can’t even... I think Matthew Golden’s droppable.” — Derrick (08:35)

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Key Questions by Game: Start/Sit, Buy/Sell, Deep Dives

Browns at Ravens

[11:28–17:47]

• TE Dilemma:
  • Which TE replicates Week 1—Fannin or Andrews?
    • Dbro: Leans Harold Fannin, cites matchup. “Usage was very, very shaky... need to see more.” (11:59)
    • Fitz: Slightly more pessimistic, expects down game for Andrews with low passing volume likely. (14:09)
    • “Might just be a touchdown or bust game for Andrews.” — Fitz (14:38)
• Rest-of-Season on Fannin:
  • High-upside stash; Brevin Jordan could be traded, opening door for Fannin. (15:55)
• Ravens -12:
  • Fitz bets on Ravens to cover; Derrick fears Browns’ garbage time passing. (17:26)

Jags at Bengals: Travis Etienne’s Stock

[18:18–21:38]

• RB Outlook:
  • Both hosts upgraded Etienne to strong RB2, regret not having more shares. “He still played 61% of the snaps... there’s room for another RB to get usage.” — Dbro (20:06)

Giants at Cowboys: Javonte Williams Trust Level

[24:18–28:23]

• Trust Scale (1–10):
  • Dbro: 7, sees no real threats to workload.
  • Fitz: 3, skeptical of Williams’ efficiency and upside.
  • “Javonte played 80% of the snaps...so I think a better day [is coming].” — Dbro (25:06)
• Role Stability:
  • Consensus: Williams’ volume is his safety net amid a sea of committees.

Bears at Lions: Panic for Detroit?

[29:13–31:36]

• Lions’ Slow Start?
  • Pat: “Buzzsaw is the answer”—credits Packers’ defense for Lions’ loss.
  • Dbro: “I’m not pressing the panic button... biggest thing for them is figuring out the O-line.”

Patriots at Dolphins: Is Miami Fantasy Gold?

[33:04–36:23]

• Start All Patriots?
  • Dbro: “Yes—fire up Drake May, Tray Henderson, Hunter Henry, and highlight Keishawn Boutte as a flex.”
  • Fitz: Miami may still have a home field edge; NE rotations at WR/RB could limit ceiling.

49ers at Saints: Which Offense Can You Trust?

[36:23–39:19]

• Trust Index:
  • Both pick 49ers, largely due to “CMC or bust” philosophy.
  • Stat bet: “Christian McCaffrey 24.5 touches—over.” (38:16)
• Pass-Catchers:
  • With injuries, Ricky Pearsall could be a PPR sneaky start if Jennings sits.

Bills at Jets: Buy-High Candidates

[40:14–43:53]

• Breece Hall vs Keon Coleman:
  • Dbro: Breece Hall—“We should have been price enforcing more.”
  • Fitz: Keon, due to cost; worries about Hall’s red zone usage and Jets offense.

Seahawks at Steelers: Seattle’s RB Mess

[43:53–47:52]

• Dbro thinks Walker’s health is limiting him; “tough to understand... where this backfield goes.”
• Fitz preaches patience—“Don’t panic on Walker, but we’ll need a few weeks’ data.”

Rams at Titans: Ridley & Pollard Confidence

[49:10–50:38]

• Dbro: “I feel fine about both, better about Pollard—usage is fantastic.”
• Fitz: “Pollard is a solid volume play; Ridley is a WR3 this week.”

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Major Individual Hot Topics & Memorable Quotes

Etienne’s Redemption

• “I was wrong. Tank Bigsby was the guy they moved and ETN is the guy they’re gonna lean on.” — Dbro (20:06)

Patriots’ New WR Hope

• “I love Keishawn Boutte as a flex play this week. I think the production in Week 1 is more real than fraudulent.” — Dbro (33:04)

Saints QB Disappointment

• “He looked okay. He looked like a competent NFL quarterback. ...I think you need to go get your eyes checked if that’s what you think.” — Dbro, on Spencer Rattler (36:34)

Hollywood Brown Fading

• “There’s no way Hollywood Brown can sniff 16 targets again... a great under bet is Hollywood on 63.5 receiving yards this week.” — Fitz (57:13, 58:52)

Justin Herbert: Most Underrated?

• “Herbert was massively underrated... If I took Greg Roman’s name off these stats, you’d think this is a Ben Johnson offense.” — Dbro (64:46)

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Notable Timestamps for Key Segments

• Packers’ Defense Deep Dive: 01:38–05:22
• Packers WR Situation: 06:59–09:53
• Browns–Ravens TE Analysis: 11:59–16:51
• Javonte Williams Trust Debate: 25:06–28:23
• Lions Panic Button vs Packers: 29:13–31:36
• Patriots WRs and Drake May vs Dolphins: 33:04–34:47
• Bills at Jets: Breece Hall vs Keon Coleman: 40:14–43:53
• Seahawks RB Situation: 44:05–47:52
• Ridley vs Pollard Outlook: 49:10–50:38
• Herbert vs Gentry Debate: 64:46–69:11

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Fantasy Pros’ Noteworthy Week 2 Advice

• Buy high on Travis Etienne and Breece Hall (but beware TD dependence for Hall).
• If you need a streaming tight end, Harold Fannin and Hunter Henry are strong upside gambles.
• Be patient with Kenneth Walker—don’t overreact to Week 1.
• Don’t trust Packers WRs (beyond Kraft) until the committee shakes out.
• Pollard’s role is elite, and his usage is here to stay despite Cam Ward’s scrambling.
• Keishawn Boutte is a quiet riser at WR in New England.
• Fade Michael Pittman against Patrick Surtain—“no way” you start him (53:12).
• Herbert’s passing offense may be more modern and valuable than many anticipated—Greg Roman is letting loose.
• Egbuka is a solid WR2 after his Week 1 breakout.

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Rapid-Fire: Other Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “I think Worm is more of a Packers homer than you are.” — Derrick to Ryan (11:05)
• “If you play [Pittman] this week, good luck.” — Dbro (53:46)
• “An injury is the only thing that stops McCaffrey short of 24.5 touches.” — Fitz (38:21)

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Closing Thoughts

• The hosts agree Week 2 is the first “real” test for reacting to new data as managers.
• The episode is rich with actionable start/sit calls, nuanced debates, and rest-of-season insight.
• Herbert and the Chargers’ offense are flagged as a major storyline to watch, as are the rapidly changing backfields in Seattle, Denver, and Green Bay.
• Recurring message: don’t overreact, but be ready to pivot as roles clarify in the next few weeks.

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For further rankings, consensus tiers, and real-time updates, listeners are urged to visit fantasypros.com/rankings and use the site’s “Are They Playing” tool.

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[Ryan Warmley]

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[Ryan Warmley]

Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm Ryan, warmly joined as I am every Friday morning by Derrick Brown and by Pat Fitz Morris. Guys, we are doing our Key Questions episode as we will be doing every Friday morning all season long. Unlike last week, we are actually taping this on Friday morning so we can actually react to the Thursday night game. And Fitz, like I went into this season, I didn't say this on any shows because I wasn't on any shows. We were doing official predictions. The packers were my super bowl pick to come out of the nfc. I feel pretty good about that through two weeks. Man. How are you feeling about your team?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

I'm feeling really good Worm. And you know I think I can speak for a lot of packers fans on this at least you know, older Packer fans like myself. But like over the last 25 plus years or so like post Reggie White retirement, like the packers have had a lot of teams with you know like very good to great offenses betrayed by leaky defenses. That's big part of the reason that Aaron Rodgers only won one super bowl during his time in Green Bay. This is the best defense the packers have had since the Reggie White, Leroy Butler, Santana Dotson, Craig Newsom, et cetera et cetera heyday in the mid to mid to late 90s. Like this defense is awesome and you know everyone knows Micah Parsons and huge get for them, Xavier McKinney, Ed Cooper. Those guys look like stars and then like all these unheralded guys they have in the Secondary like Keyshawn Nixon, Carrington Valentine, Javon Bullard. Like, this is a really good defense. And for fantasy, I think this is a defense that we are quickly going to regard the way we maybe regard the Denver defense. Like, oh, no, you know, this is not a good matchup for my guys. Like, do I maybe sit this guy that most weeks I'm unquestionably starting.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah. Dbro. I mean, I, you know, I mentioned that I had the Packers. I had them as my super bowl pick before the Micah Parsons trade. Now that that's gone down, the defense is just on a whole nother level. And I, like, I know that there's stuff going on with both the Lions and the commanders in terms of like, we expected some regression maybe from Washington, the Lions, of course, losing Ben Johnson. These are not the exact same teams as they were a year ago. But having said that, these were two of the best offenses in football a year ago. And the packers were not challenged by them.

[Derrick Brown]

No, man. And I, and I, I'll. I'll be very transparent here. I wrote about it in the primer for the last two weeks. I needed to see with the Green Bay packers defense. I believed their run defense was legit. I did not move off of that, even despite the moving. Kenny Clark and I said this before, I said this before. We, we, we turned the cameras on. But one of the greatest things Brian Kunakuz has ever done is convincing Jerry Jones that the reason that the Green Bay packers run defense was good was because of Kenny Clark. It was not. And they are still a top shelf unit against the run, but I needed to see it with the, with the secondary. Man, these corners, we all talked about them all off season. What was this going to look like? And you know, I dunked on them and stuff. And they, they're playing really good football, man. Like, and I think two parts of this. One, we got to give respect to the, to the packers defense and two, to the commander side. Dude, their offensive line is a problem. Josh Connerly is like, he got smoked the entire night. He didn't have a chance against Michael Parsons or whoever they put up against him. Like, dude's having to hold guys so Jane Daniels doesn't get like crushed into smithereens. So they got to figure out the offensive line, specifically right tackle and Cliff Kingsbury. Man, we going to get anything besides a screen and go balls and back shoulder throws to Noah Brown. Anything. You got anything else? Crossers, deep overs, stretching field deep, stretching the defense vertically. Because if you're not willing to Run the ball. And you're going to sit here and put everything and lay it all at the feet of Jane Daniels and ask him to forgive every sin. Jane Daniels can do a lot of that, but he can't do everything, man. You got to help him out some way. Like, this offense was so vanilla and just predictable, dude. Like, you knew they were going to run the ball after the beginning of this game. Even though this game wasn't out of reach for most of it, they just didn't have the inclination to just, hey, Jaden, go save us.

[Ryan Warmley]

If it felt more out of reach than it actually was. The score was a bit deceiving. And like, you look at the stat line, like, oh, jayn Daniels, like, 200 yards, two touchdowns. You know, that's not the worst day ever. It's like that was all garbage time. Like this. This offense was doing nothing until the end of the game. You know, no. No rusher, whether Jane Daniels or one of the running backs had even 20 yards in this game. You know, obviously Ertz had the late touchdown, but, yeah, it just fits. Nothing doing from this offense.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Yeah, that was it. And. But like, again, I mean, I don't worry about Jaden Daniels too much. Like, one of my. One of my Packer fan friends was texting me during that game. He's like, you know, Jaden Daniels is a phenomenal quarterback. Completely amazing. Defense is making him look like Jacobe Brissette tonight.

[Derrick Brown]

Yep.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah. Geez, that's pretty harsh phrase. Or. Or I. I would say strong praise for. For the Packers.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Sorry, Jacoby.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah, it's fair. Yeah. And it's quickly on the packers offense because we mostly talked about the defense, like, obviously, like Jordan Love is looking like he was a pretty good value where he was going. Um, Tucker Kraft clearly looking like, you know, one of the better tight ends. You know, so far it's only two games in other pass catchers and. And obviously Josh Jacobs, we know what he is, but fits other pass catchers in this offense. Like, is it. I mean, it's not over for. For Golden. Right. He's two weeks in, but I know you and Dera were both a little lower on him going in. Jaden Reed gets hurt here. Like, is there room to be starting anybody here besides Craft Jacobs? And then depending on your quarterback situation, Love.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

That's the weird thing that Love has played well and you still feel like you can't really start any Packer pass catchers besides Tucker Kraft. And like, I don't know that the Jaden Reed injury, which probably I saw one estimate of six to eight weeks. That seems pretty optimistic for a broken collarbone. I don't know if we see him before Thanksgiving or even December. But like, I don't know if Reed's absence makes Dobbs Golden, Dontavian Wicks any more playable. I kind of think they're just going to plug Savion Williams in the Reeds role and see what he can do. So I still think it's going to be, you know, weirdly just this wide receiver by committee approach where you can't really use any of these guys unless you're really in a bind and the bye weeks are hitting and you've got a lot of injuries.

[Ryan Warmley]

This is what I said. D row before the season we had our. One of our key questions in our season long preview episode was kind of comparing some of our favorite later on quarterbacks and I said the reason I liked Love so much was I expected this to be a good team but I didn't know who to pick out of the pass catchers. So let me just make sure I'm getting kind of all of them, you know, by getting the quarterback in in love. Do you have a favorite out of them? I mean obviously you love Tucker Craft, I mean besides him. Or are you kind of avoiding them all too?

[Derrick Brown]

It's Craft or nobody and for everybody. Look like I, I will own this too about this, like I was not high on him in the primer but dude, like after, I mean let's not just have like revisionist history about yesterday and, and okay, Tucker Kraft had an amazing day. 1247 targets. Let's also talk about like what we did and didn't know before week two. I mean Jordan Love still only threw the ball in this game 31 times in week one. Jordan Love threw the ball 22 times in week one. No pass catcher in the Green Bay offense had more than five targets. Kraft himself had four and the touchdown saved his fantasy day. And so no, it's, it's Craft or nobody, dude. Like I wrote it up in the primer dubs and Kraft were the only guys with over like a 60 route share. Matthew golden didn't even eclipse 60%. All these other guys, Don, Tavian, Wicks, everybody else didn't eclipse 60%. It is wide receiver by committee. You can't even like, I, I think Matthew Golden's droppable and I, I'm not going to move off of that because in a wide receiver by committee approach he got two targets in week one and two targets in week two. And we've seen what this offense looks like and Love was awesome. There's still a passing volume concern here in this offense. 31 times when he had 9.4 yards per attempt and threw for two touchdowns, like that's really good. But it doesn't make me feel better about Jordan Love moving forward. The only person from this offense or two people I want for start in fantasy from this offense is Josh Jacobs and Tucker Craft. And it's nobody else, dude. Nobody.

[Ryan Warmley]

I, I, I'm a little more optimistic about Love going forward. We can move off this game and get to the, to the questions going forward. I'm a little more optimistic about Love going forward. I think he will start connecting.

[Derrick Brown]

I mean he played really good but.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

I mean like it's the pass volume or I mean like it's the pass volume.

[Ryan Warmley]

We can't have it on 10 years. Every time, every year we see a passing quarterback run really hot for the whole season like Baker Mayfield last year. And I'm, I, I think this offense is good enough that there's a chance that that's Love. I think also not every game will the defense be so utterly dominant that they don't have to throw. There will be.

[Derrick Brown]

I mean after two weeks you're, we could say that the packers have done for the last two weeks. We could say they're not going to be dominant. I thought we just gave them their flowers.

[Ryan Warmley]

Worm, like, like I said, you know, we thought there was going to be maybe regression coming for the commanders. Jaden Daniels didn't look that great against New York either. And the Lions, that was their first game without Ben Johnson. So I'm not saying the packers were taking advantage of two easy opponents. They clearly were not. But I'm just saying it's very early in the season. I'm not expecting them to make every single opponent all year long look like they don't know how to play football on the offensive side of the ball. I think there will be opportunity for more. And also Love just barely missed out on two long plays to add to his stats to gold and I know only two targets for golden but those stats would have helped Love too, is all I'm saying.

[Derrick Brown]

I think, I think Worm is more of a Packers homer than you are.

[Ryan Warmley]

No, I just, I just think, I just think love was at QB19 or whatever he was in ADP was too low and, and I feel good about that. Even if the pass volume is lower. I'm not saying he's going to be QB3 this season. I'm saying I think he will be a value the whole and we'll have.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

The debate about the 2000 Ravens defense versus the 2025 packers defense some other time.

[Ryan Warmley]

I'll be very happy for you if we can genuinely have that debate at some point and it's not ridiculous. Let's, let's get into the key questions here. We'll start with the Sunday early slate. Quick reminder that all of our 2025 consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypros.com rankings. First game up on the early slate Browns at Ravens I want to ask you guys about the tight ends in this one. Which tight end in this game is more likely to repeat their week one performance? Another down game from Mark Andrews or another good game From Harold Fannin Jr. D ro I'll start with you.

[Derrick Brown]

I really wanted to say neither of these but the way you phrase this. Yes staying within the framework of the question Worm, I'll say Harold Fannin and this goes to the matchup. I mean Baltimore, you don't really want to stress their secondary. Like I know like their corners had a rough week one but still like you've been able to get over on them with tight ends. Last year they get the 9th most receiving yards, 12th most fantasy points tight ends. So I think of picking one it's Harold Fannin. Although I have a lot of concerns man like I see so many different outcomes for Harold Fannon moving forward. Like he easily could be 2024 Isaiah likely in 2025. Like that could easily happen and this could have been the best game of his entire career. Not career but the entire season. Just the usage was I'm not going to say fraudulent but it was very very shaky with a 60 route share so need to see more of it moving forward but I think if I got to make one bet it's probably Fan and having a good game.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah I wasn't fits really expecting a big volume game from Mark Andrews because I know that a the Ravens feel like they can run the ball on on the Bills which they and also.

[Derrick Brown]

Especially after that grand Delpit comment. Did you see that worm? He said it's easy. It's easy to tackle Derrick Henry. Tell me Derek's not gonna go ahead and look for that man last week.

[Ryan Warmley]

What I expected out of Andrew. But you're right, that comment from Delit is why even say it?

[Derrick Brown]

Why do you say that before the game? You know Henry's gonna make it a point to stiff arm him into another universe and I'm here for it.

[Ryan Warmley]

Like Kyle Hamilton made a good point. Like I don't need bullets and board material to play hard. I'm like, my job is to play hard anyway. But it's also just why like, like what is the, what is the upside there? But, but the point I was making is that I didn't expect a ton of volume for Andrews in Week one because I knew they could run against Buffalo and I knew Zay Flowers is the type of receiver that they like to use against the type of defense that Buffalo runs. So having said all that, I, I expected more of a scoring opportunity, like, you know, red zone touchdown stuff. The Ravens just kept scoring from so far away that they didn't really have, you know, many of those opportunities, even for a team that scored 40 points. So I, I wouldn't be surprised if there's more like work for Andrews coming up here. But Fitz, I'm curious what you think. Are you more expecting a a down game for Andrews again or good game from Fan?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Yeah, I like the clever phrasing of this question, Worm, because you're like testing whether we're optimists or pessimists because like it's either good for both or bad for both. Unfortunately, I think I have to be the, the killjoy here and take the negative stance. Like I, I think another down game from Mark Andrews is probably more likely than another good game from Fannin. I like, I don't hate the matchup for Andrews and I don't think he's toast. But lamar Jackson threw 19 passes against the Bills last week and Mark Andrews had one target and one five yard catch in a game the Ravens were leading for about three quarters. And sorry to bring up that game again Worm, but like I brought it.

[Ryan Warmley]

Up myself, I knew it was coming.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

So in a game against the Browns where the Ravens are something like 12 point favorites, it's pretty easy to envision another very low volume passing game for Lamar. So it might just be a touchdown or bus game for Andrews. And look, I don't want to be the wet blanket with regard to Fannin. Like I got him in a few of my dynasty rookie drafts. I was a little puzzled when people would take either Terrence Ferguson or sorry, DBRO Elijah Arroyo over Fannin and rookie drafts. And I know Arroyo like had a great day of practice at the Senior bowl with you in attendance, Debro. But Fannin had 117 catches and over 1500 receiving yards in his final college season at Bowling Green. Like he led the FBS catches and receiving yards as a freaking tight end. So I don't know. I mean it's, it's possible. Fannin is just a star right off the bat and I love that he's playing in a high volume passing attack with Joe Flacco slinging it around. I just don't know if we can bank on something close to nine targets for Fan. And every week it's the Browns number.

[Ryan Warmley]

Two tight end D ro you like rest of season. What do you think about Fannin?

[Derrick Brown]

I think, I think if you want to take an upset swing a tight end, he's a perfect one to do it. Because the thing that we haven't discussed here yet is that I think there's a non zero chance with the Cleveland Browns. We know that they're, they're not, they're not going anywhere this year. Like that's just that, that's a fact. I think there's a non zero chance that David Najoku is traded at some point this season. And if that's the case, the Runway is absolutely clear because he's a referral. He's a free agent after this year. So if Cleveland, Cleveland can, you know, get some kind of like day three pick back for David and Joku, that's a move that you do. So I mean Fannin, look, people paid for him on waivers and stuff like that. Hold him. I'm not telling anybody to start him. Although the state of the tight end position is getting worse and worse by the day with more players going out with injuries and it's just drop. Titans are dropping like flies, but Fannin is a huge upside swing. So I'm, I'm here and willing to take it.

[Ryan Warmley]

Ravens minus 12 on hard rock Bet that is the biggest spread of the week by a mile. It's almost double any other spread as of when I was putting the sheet together on Thursday. Will the Ravens cover minus 12?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Fitz I've already bet on them. Worm. Like, I don't, I don't love betting big favorites, but the Ravens had the, the tough loss to the Bills in week one and after this game against the Browns, the Ravens get the Lions and the Chiefs like they cannot afford to look past this game. I think the Browns are going to have the Ravens full attention this week. I, I don't know if it'll be a total blowout, but I do think the Ravens cover.

[Ryan Warmley]

Debra.

[Derrick Brown]

I don't think they cover only because of the Cleveland passing volume and stuff like that. Like I think garbage time could sit here and destroy it. Like I, I'm not saying that they can't but I, I, I just think the Browns do enough in garbage time to sit here and make it closer.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

So where they don't cover back door that's my only Back door is definitely open for the Browns on this one.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah, I I would bet on the I mean we just saw last year like the Ravens facing one of the best teams in football, losing a heartbreaker at the end and then they lost to the Raiders at home in week two.

[Derrick Brown]

I mean they played the Bengals close too and I know it's the Bengals defense, but they did play the Bengals.

[Ryan Warmley]

Flacco's first game as an opponent in Baltimore. Like I, I, I'm very curious to see what that looks like so that.

[Derrick Brown]

This was like for me say nine. I, I would say the Ravens cover if this was like 9 or 10, but it's a huge line dude.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah. Division game, all that so. All right, let's go to game number two. Speaking of the Bengals Jags at Bengals what are your expectations for Travis ETN coming off his big week one and now without Tank Bigsby in the backfield? Fitz starting with you pretty high.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

I've got him ranked RB15 this week and I'm disappointed. I only drafted ETN in like one league when he was so cheap in drafts. Like there were three bets you could have made in the Jacksonville backfield, etn, Tank Bigsby or Bashal Tutin. And I was never going to bet on Bigsby because there's just, I feel like there's never any point to betting on a running back who doesn't catch passes unless his name is Derek Henry. So I'm mad at myself for not investing more heavily in Tutin or especially etn. And like Liam Cohen and James Gladstone have made their choice. Like Gladstone traded big speed of the Eagles, so now it's ETN Tootin and La Quint Allen as a passing down specialist. But it looks like it's going to be primarily ETN at least early on and we should probably be enthusiastic about the lead running back in a Liam Cohen offense. Like Cohen knows what he's doing with the running game. Bucky Irving smashed last season with Cohen as the OC in Tampa. Maybe it's ETN's time to smash.

[Ryan Warmley]

Did you move him up any significant well I'm sure you did but like how much did you move him up in rest of season rankings after seeing what we saw?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Hugely, man, I had him ranked like in the, you know, low end RB3 in my draft rankings which was way too low. And now he's like a mid range RB2 for me.

[Ryan Warmley]

I started to ask you, did you move him up? And then I was like, no, that's a stupid way to phrase that question clearly.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Yeah, just got him wrong.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah, I'm kind of with you. I. I liked him early in the draft process. Then I kind of came off him and now I'm. I came. I think I have Etan in like one, maybe two leagues and I, you know, feel some regret about that. D bro, what about you?

[Derrick Brown]

I mean, I'll own it. I was not on ETN the entire draft season wasn't. I mean it was a down year last year. He's been dinged up. I looked at if you were looking at which one of these guys could possibly get moved in a trade and maybe get them the most in return, it would be ETN because he'd be the guy that would again, assuming he went to some other situation that'd be a team trading for a guy they felt like could be their starter. And he plus it being an impending free agent and I was wrong. Tank Bigsby was the guy that they moved and ETN is the guy they're gonna lean on. And I feel good about him. Like I've got him at RB. What have I got him this week? RB15. No. Yeah, RB16 right now and I moved him up to RB15 and rest of season rankings like solid RB2. People should be definitely holding Bashel Tootin because he's also gonna make noise in this backfield. Like for as good as ETM was, he still played 61 of the snap. So there is room for another running back to get usage. And I think as Bay Shield Tutin gets more reps, we're going to see more usage in this offense. So you definitely need to hold him, not drop him. And Eaton's going to have another fantastic week like the Bengals in week one 10. Thaismith's tackle rate, 12th highest rushing success rate. So ETN another fantastic weekend coming. Yeah, I was wrong about him and drafted.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

I mean in fairness, like the metrics for ETN were pretty terrible last year as far as like yards after contact per carry, rushing yards over expected missed tackles, forest like he just wasn't good. But I do think this Cohen scheme with like a lot of the wide zone stuff run is probably a better fit for ETN than the offense he was in last year.

[Ryan Warmley]

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[Derrick Brown]

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[Derrick Brown]

That might seem insane, but tell me the difference between Javante Williams workload week one and Amari and Hampton's. They are the Spider man being like they're. They're exactly the same. Javante played 80% of the snaps. He got all. I mean he got almost 70% of the rushing work, 71 route share. I know the two short scores definitely helped his fantasy day. And I'm not saying that he was efficient, but if you watch the game, I mean he was getting slammed into the freaking A gap the entire time. Like there was no, like, let's try to get him to the edge. There was no like inside zone. There was nothing like that. So I think a better day. And we just saw like this Commander's rushing attack didn't look good in week two. They looked pretty dang good in week one. And a lot of that has to do with the Giants run defense. I already went to Hard Rock bet and hit the over for Javante Williams rushing yards, which is now, right now the line is at 54 and a half.

[Ryan Warmley]

Okay, Fitz, what do you think? Are you also that high on the scale and are you interested in betting that?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

No, no. Totally different take here. Put me down for a three. Like the big game was touchdown driven, couple of short touchdowns. There were no long runs. I don't think Javante forced a single missed tackle in that game. He averaged 3.6 yards per carry against an Eagles defense that lost Jalen Carter a complete wrecking ball in the interior just seconds into the game. Because of that spitting incident. It looks like Javante is clearly the Cowboys lead back. Yes. I just don't really have much faith that he can turn that role into consistently meaningful fantasy production.

[Ryan Warmley]

Truthfully, that's kind of the answer I expected from both of you guys. So D Br I was surprised that you have more faith in Javante, you know, going into this one.

[Derrick Brown]

Who's taking work away from him. Jane Blue who's in an active or Miles Sanders who put the ball.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

I was thinking like they were trading for Travis ETN at some point, but I guess that's off the table now.

[Derrick Brown]

Yeah, it's off the table. I I was with you on that one, Fitzy. Like I thought that could happen.

[Ryan Warmley]

I messaged you during that opener. Like I went back and found in May, you, me and Erickson had a seven minute conversation on an episode about how it's ridiculous that Javante Williams ADP was RB37 at that time. I went and checked to see what the real time ADP was at the end of August it was RB37. It didn't move at all and I was like what are we doing here? And it's for the reasons that we saw in the opening night game, which is I expect the Cowboys to be the poor man's Bengals, which means he is going to be the running back for a team that I expect to actually score kind of a lot of points and need to score a lot of points because of the defense and he's going to get every opportunity to score touchdowns. So he the reason I don't know that I have a ton of trust in him week to week is because I don't know when those touchdowns are going to come. But I think he's going to have all the opportunity in the world. Like that is not going anywhere barring injury, I don't think. And it's why he is probably my most rostered player because I just kept saying like he stood's available like a pick 100 and he's going to be the starting running back for what I think is a good offense.

[Derrick Brown]

I, I agree but that's why my confidence is so high after week one. We have so many committee backfields and we don't know where the touches are going in all these backfields. Like how do you feel good about starting anybody from Seattle? How do you feel good about starting anybody from Pittsburgh? How do you feel good about running Travion Henderson out there when he didn't even play 40 of the snaps or RJ Harvey and all those other players and all these rookies and stuff. I know Javante is going to get all the freaking work. That's why I'm at a 7 right now because he's going to get all the freaking work.

[Ryan Warmley]

And it's a good matchup too. I said this on the Thursday show fits with you and Jake, but I, I do, I didn't go back and look through the play by play to see what the literal, you know, yards per carry were on every run before and after the lightning delay. It did feel like the offenses on both sides just kind of like after the long delay. So I don't, I don't want to just strictly look at the like, oh, 3.6 yards per carry. He was bad and say like, you know, it felt like kind of the both offenses really struggled after that. So maybe that plays into the efficiency somewhat. Yeah. All right, let's go to Game 4. Bears at Lions Is Detroit going to take a bigger step back this season than expected, or did they just run into a Buzzsaw in the packers in Week one? And by the way, I wrote this question before the Thursday night game and now it looks like maybe that has answered the question for us, quite possibly. Fitz, what do you think?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

The Buzzsaw is the answer. It's reasonable to think the Lions are not going to achieve the same level of offensive success without Ben Johnson calling the plays and without center Frank Ragnow, who retired. I mean, Detroit scored 70 touchdowns last year. They're still going to have a good offense, though. Like, I am expecting the Lions to get the train back on the track against the Bears at home at Ford Field. I would not be surprised if the Detroit offense cooked up a 40 burger for the Bears this week.

[Ryan Warmley]

Deborah, I'm assuming that you have the same answer, especially given what we saw last night. So correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm not wrong, I'll kind of pivot and ask, what'd you think of Ben Johnson's first game in Chicago in general?

[Derrick Brown]

I thought Ben Johnson did really good. Can't say the same for Caleb Williams. But I thought Ben Johnson, because there were guys open all over the field, Caleb just couldn't hit him. So, I mean, I thought Ben Johnson did a fantastic job considering everything. And yeah, I, I'm not pressing the panic button on the Lions. I'll say the biggest thing for them is one, yes, the Green Bay Buss saw two. Man, they've, they've got to figure out their offensive line. Like their guards were the big problem in Week one. Like Christian Mahogany and Tate Ratledge looked lost. They looked like they were on a different planet. So for, and this is so like central to what is like help the Lions because they've had a top five offensive line and they've made moves in the drafts and stuff like that to make sure that they had future pieces to where if anything happened. But those future Pieces were not playing well right now. Now I do think that like Cam Mahogany play better football. We saw him play good football last year. Can Tate Ratledge, you know, find his NFL legs? Sure those things can happen. It's only one freaking game. But it still wasn't good. And we know how pressure sensitive Jared Golf is. You can't run the ball if you can't stop, especially if you're getting blown up in the freaking interior. So Detroit to fix their woes. Like yeah, the offensive play calling is, is a question mark like motion play action. All these things that like make it cheat codes for quarterbacks and offenses. The other part about this, if you can't open up lanes for your running backs and you can't protect your quarterback, especially with the interior and considering the quarterback you have, you're going to get crushed. So Detroit, they have to figure out the offensive line. They do that, everything else looks better.

[Ryan Warmley]

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[Derrick Brown]

Yeah, I mean, I think like you're starting all the usual suspects like Drake May should be in lineups. You're still probably running Trayvon Henderson hoping for better days and he breaks off a big run. Hunter Henry. Henry, if you're, I mean, look, if you have George Kittle, Evan Ingram, maybe even Brock Bowers this week misses the game. It. You're probably starting Hunter Henry and I think he's a fantastic start. I mean this defense gave up the 12th most receiving arts and 12th most fantasy points to opposing tight ends. He had great usage in week one. If he had got his scored a touchdown, he would have been probably a top five tight end for the week. The guy that I want to highlight here specifically is Keisha Bute. Like, I think that the production we had in week one is more real than it is fraudulent. And I honestly, dude, I didn't even write him up for the primer. Week one, like that was a miss by me. But I didn't know if he was going to be a full time starter in this offense. And going back to last year, like maybe we should have given more respect to him in draft season too, considering week 16 through 18. Last year, Booty had a 21.3% target share. He had 2.79 yards per route run and almost a 26 first read chair. And a ton of those metrics were there in week one. Like the dude led the team with a 23 first read share. So I love him as a flex play this week. I think there's upside to be had there. But yeah, you're probably firing up everybody else that you did in week one outside of like Ramandre Stevenson who just looked like he cannot break tackles anymore. And that snap share is probably going to flip more in Henderson's favor this week.

[Ryan Warmley]

D Ro, would you rather start Drake May or Patrick Mahomes this week?

[Derrick Brown]

Drake May. Not even close.

[Ryan Warmley]

Okay, we, we, we talked about that on the start sit show.

[Derrick Brown]

I mean, Patrick Mahomes doesn't run like he did in week one. He's not paying off for you as a fantasy option. Can he do that? Sure. But you're depending upon that.

[Ryan Warmley]

All right. Fitz, what do you think about the Patriots in this matchup?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

So I, I know how bad the Dolphins looked and I feel pretty good about the bet I made back in June taking them under eight and a half wins at like minus 130. Like I, I'm kind of mad I didn't bet my retirement savings on that now. But like I would warn people though, like The Dolphins are still favored in this game, and historically they've been pretty good in early season home games in Miami, where the heat and humidity sometimes just melt their opponents. Like Drake, May could have a big day. It's probably going to depend on how well he handles the blitz because the Dolphins blitzed at the highest rate in the league last week, more than half their snapshots. But then again, it didn't really work. Their pressure rate was third lowest, third lowest with all those blitzes. But like, if, if the blitz does get home this week, it's possible May struggles a little bit and I don't know that there's a New England pass catcher we can totally count on. Like Stefan Diggs might not be 100% yet after the ACL tear last year. Demario Douglas, Cashon, Booty Hunter Henry. They're all sort of fringy for fantasy and a running back like, like, ugh. Ramondre Stevenson out snap Trayvon Henderson 46:25 in week one, which is just like, we hate to see that that could change in Week two. And Henderson doesn't really need a ton of snaps to play off when he has so much big play potential. But I can't confidently predict a good game for a running back who might not play even 40% of his team's offensive snaps.

[Ryan Warmley]

Let's go to the next game on the slate. 49ers at Saints which offense do you trust more for fantasy this week? Dbro? The Spencer Rattler led Saints or the Mac Jones led 49ers?

[Derrick Brown]

It's the 49ers, dude. Like I can somebody tell me what, what they, what were you watching in Week one if you thought Spencer Rattler played good? Because I've heard that narrative so much this week and people are like, oh, he, he looked perfectly fine. And I'm like, really? Really? For the quarterback that had the fifth fewest arts per attempt, the six lowest pass rate and the 12th lowest CPOE and the seventh lowest.

[Ryan Warmley]

Great.

[Derrick Brown]

He looked okay. He looked like a competent NFL quarterback. I, I, I'm just going to say to cap this off, I, I think you need to go get your eyes checked. It's time for an eye doctor appointment, if that's what you think. So no, it's the 49ers. Like Mac Jones might be Mac Jones, but I trust more in Kyle Shanahan and that offensive system than Kellen Moore. Featuring 46 pass attempts for Spencer Rattler and Alvin Kamara getting two targets from.

[Ryan Warmley]

That yeah, dude, I was just gonna say like 46 attempts for rattler is, you know, jaw dropping. And I'm scrolling through now. Was that the most of the week? I know Drake May also had 46, so maybe it's tied. I'm. I'm going through every matchup here just quickly to see if I can see if he did have the most. He might have two left. He taught. Okay, so he tied with Drake May and Josh Allen. They Both also had 46 pass attempts. That's remarkable. Fitz, what do you think? Spencer Rattler led Saints or Mac Jones led 49ers?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

I mean, it's the 49ers, but really it's only one guy. It's Christian McCaffrey. Like, if. If I were to give you guys as the over under and you had to bet 500 bucks on this either way, Christian McCaffrey 24 and a half touches. Which way are you betting it?

[Ryan Warmley]

Over.

[Derrick Brown]

Over. I mean, don't care if it's juiced.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

An injury is the only thing that stops him short of that, I think.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah. Well, so. So then, Fitz, what about the pass catcher, specifically? Like, would you rather be starting somebody like Pearsall or Olave in this matchup in their respective matchups? You know, given the quarterback situation, I.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Think I've got Olave ranked higher. Like, dude. So the Pierce hall thing, I really. What. What do we think the passing volume is going to be for the 49ers with Mac Jones? Like, if Mac Jones is throwing 23 passes in a game where the 49ers, you know, could win handily, like, what. What kind of a day do we think Ricky Pierce all is going to have?

[Derrick Brown]

Pierce all is going to have eight targets at least. I mean, and I. I mean, who. Juwan Jennings might not play in this game, right? If Christian McCaffrey is, who are they going to throw the ball? I mean, I think it's gonna be a lot of McCaffrey and I'll have.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Pearsall ranked ahead of a Lava if we know Jennings is out.

[Derrick Brown]

Yeah, I don't think he plays. He did. He didn't even practice, I don't think, yesterday.

[Ryan Warmley]

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[Derrick Brown]

I mean I'll go Breeze hall here. I'll just take the low hanging fruit. Like this is not like a lack of faith in Keon Coleman. I mean just Breece hall. We should have been price enforcing more man. Like he looked fantastic. He had almost 60% of the snaps. He looked awesome. Like 26 missed tackle rate the Bear. The concerning thing for him is that he only got two out of six red zone carries. I don't know if that continues for the entirety of the year with how much better he looked than every other running back on that depth chart in week one. So I and considering the state of the running back position and fantasy, I'm more willing to buy high on Breeze hall because also the other point of that this I was very encouraged what I saw from Justin Fields, man, he looked really, really good in week one. So more faith in this offense moving forward. And it's not that I don't like Keon Coleman, it's just I don't know if we see a 24 target share and a 35 first reach year for him for the entire season. We could and I could be wrong.

[Ryan Warmley]

With that Fitz, you are like a Keon Coleman, you know, supporter and somebody that you've been high on for a while. Even as somebody who obviously watched that game very closely, I did look at the boxer at the end and go he had 112 yards and a touchdown and 11 target. Like I was actually surprised by the stat line even having watched the whole game. Obviously the touchdown was a little bit fluky with some of the tip ball stuff in the end zone and Breece hall of course looked really good too. He's going to cost you more. So again relative to cost, who would you rather buy high?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Yeah, relative to cost is the key phrase here. Worm and Keon did have some late production in that game and maybe some of the air comes out of the Keon balloon this week if he has to go up against Sauce Gardner all day. Like Sauce could maybe shadow Keon in this one. But overall, yeah, I mean I'm a Keon buyer so he's my answer here. Like I'm sure there are going to be weeks where Josh Allen spreads it around, but I do think Keon can be a thousand yard receiver who maybe flirts with 10 touchdowns. The thing is, Breece did look terrific in week one. I don't think talent was really ever the question. It's just a matter of usage. And Aaron Glenn kept saying in the off season he wanted to use multiple backs. Well, I mean hall played 58% of the snaps in Week 1. That's a pretty good share. But it's not really a workhorse type workload. And we saw Braylon Allen score an 8 yard touchdown. Like Debro said, it wasn't really Breece hall exclusively in the red zone. And I'm also not quite ready to trust the jets offense. Like maybe their new oc, Tanner Angstrand turns out to be a genius and you know, had a hope like is a head coach somewhere a year from now. But like I don't trust fully trust Justin Fields as a passer. Garrett Wilson is their only credible pass catcher. The offensive line took a big hit with the Elijah Vere Tucker injury and like if the jets offense as a whole isn't very good and if Breeze hall isn't a workhorse, I mean it might be kind of a roller coaster season farm. Like that's why we care so much about red zone usage because touchdowns are six points and you know to get six points on yardage you have to get 60 yards which is a lot of work. Like touch falling into the end zone from inside the five yard line is the shortcut. Like that's the cheat code to get a big season out of a running back. Breeze hall could have 1400 yards from scrimmage or 1500 yards this season and if he scores three or four touchdowns, like he's going to be an RB2 at best. So I'm a little, I'm just totally not buying that Breeze hall is going to be great and that we all got it wrong to be worried about his workload in the off season.

[Ryan Warmley]

Let's go to Seahawks at Steelers. What do we make of Seattle's running back situation through one week? Like one of the most like discussed points, you know, really throughout this whole week. D bro, what do you make of the running back situation? In Seattle.

[Derrick Brown]

It's a God awful mess, I think, I think Kenneth Walker's not fully healthy. I think that's what it is. I think he's either not fully healthy or this is a ramp up game.

[Ryan Warmley]

One of these seem really broken up about it.

[Derrick Brown]

I mean, dude. Well, I mean I, anybody that listen to all these shows, I packed people for them all off season, man, like and again, like, I mean this is, you know, after one game owning a of lot lot of Ls. Now with the rest of the season plays out, we shall see. But I mean there's a lot of different ways to dice this up, man. Charbonnet did lead the backfield with 58% of the snaps. The touch count was really close with these two guys. He, Charbonnet did get four red zone carries versus Walker's two. Walker was still involved there. The thing that I want to highlight is for much as everybody wants to run away with Charbonnet and they're like, oh, see, like I told you so, he's the guy that. Whatever. Neither one of these running backs were good on a per touch basis last week. Like let's, let's be very clear about that. Like, Kenneth Walker didn't enforce any missed tackles. He had 2.1 yards of the contact per attention which is not good. But Zach Charbonnet had an 8% missed tackle rate. Zach Charbonnet had 1.67 yards after contact per attempt, which is even worse than Ken Walker. So neither one of these guys are good. I don't know what to make out of this backfield because we don't know like truly and definitively we don't know where Walker's health is at. If this is a ramp up thing, if this backfield is going to flip, if better days are ahead, if this offense can even be good. Because everybody like you know, talk about Jackson Smith and Jigba and the, and the, the game that he had in week one. Y' all think he's going to get 83% of the receiving yardage on a weekly basis when Sam Darnold didn't look good and didn't throw for a lot of yards. You think that's going to repeat every single week? Cooper cup was dust. Like this whole offense is very suspect.

[Ryan Warmley]

What do you think, Fitz?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Holy overreaction, Batman. Did you just say Kenneth Walker and Zach Sharp aren't good?

[Derrick Brown]

No, I said they didn't look good. Very big difference.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

All right. I mean like I'm not that worried about their running back usage in week one. Like Walker investors should not freak out. Yes, Charbonnet out snapped Walker 30 to 21. But like Walker, to Dbro's point, like, he had the foot injury last season and missed some practice time in August with foot soreness. And I think the Seahawks are just being a little cautious. Like, Charbonnet is one of the better backup running backs in the NFL, so they can afford to lighten Walker's load if he's not 100%. I just, I don't think the foot issue is a big concern. I think things could tilt toward Walker in the weeks to come. And like, the good news is that Walker got touches on a really high percentage of his snaps. He had 21 snaps and either carried the ball or ran a route on 19 of them. Like, Walker had 10 carries and 13 receptions. So 13 touches and 21 snaps. I don't think there should be blood in the streets yet. Like, don't panic on Walker.

[Derrick Brown]

No, I want to be very clear. I'm not panicking. But I, I think looking at what we saw in week one, it's tough to understand, like, where this backfield goes. Like, like, like, say, like we're four weeks into the future. Can any of us definitively say we know who the guy that is going to be leading?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Well, we're gonna, we're gonna get more data. Dbro. Don't worry. It was one week.

[Derrick Brown]

I know, but like, looking into the season, I thought it was going to be Kenneth Walker workhorse every down back. I'm not saying that can't happen later in the season or can't even happen like three weeks from now. I'm just saying as we sit here right now after one game and it's a tougher bet to make and it's harder to say that than preseason wise. And looking at last year's usage, I'm not getting rid of Kenneth Walker or trading him away or dropping him or doing any of that overreaction ridiculousness.

[Ryan Warmley]

Not doing that before we move out this game. Just quickly, do you guys think this was kind of a fluky big week one for Aaron Rodgers, or is this offense maybe going to be better than. Than we thought? Fitz?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

It's not always going to look that good, but Rogers still has pretty extraordinary arm talent. I just don't think he has the pocket presence or the mobility within the pocket that he had in his. Hey, so if you can't put pressure on Aaron Rodgers, he can smoke you. But if you can pressure him, you know, all bets are off.

[Derrick Brown]

Deborah, I agree with Fitzy and I think like looking at the upcoming schedule, like, yeah, he probably gets over on Seattle this week because they didn't seem like their defense is still figuring some things out. New England, the same thing. But then he's got Minnesota on week four. I think that's kind of your litmus test for Aaron Rodgers. Like, like can he hold up against Brian Flores and what that blitz rate is going to look like? And to Fitzy's point, yeah, like he, he hit the nail on the head. Like, can he sit back in the pocket and dice you up? Sure. But the mobility is a big concern. I mean he's still like everything we kind of like joked about in the off season is still real with all of that. And his deeper metrics weren't amazing. Like he was still only 16th and highly accurate throw rate and 22nd and catchable target rate. So while a lot of like, like the more surface stats and the box score looked really good, there's still some underlying concerns here.

[Ryan Warmley]

Last game in the early slate, Rams at Titans. I'll keep this one pretty straightforward. Everybody knew it was probably best to find other options for your Titans players in Week one, given the matchup. You know, Cam Ward's first game in Denver, all that stuff. So how do we feel about specifically Calvin Ridley and Tony Pollard in this matchup against LA dbra? I'll start with you.

[Derrick Brown]

I mean, I feel fine about both of them. I feel better about Pollard than I do Ridley. Just looking at the secondary matchup. But Ridley is going to get the volume. I mean the shadow coverage didn't move Cam Ward off of still forcing the ball to ridley in week one. Dude still got a 28% target share and a 26% first reach here, so volume is going to be there. I think Pollard has a better day. And dude, do you talk about bell Cow usage? He played 90% of the snaps, had 19 touches, 89 total yards. I wish we'd see some more pass game usage for him, but Cam Ward is not a quarterback that likes to check it down, so I don't think that's coming. But, but I think better day for Pollard. So I feel good about both them, but better about Pollard than I do about Ridley.

[Ryan Warmley]

Fitz, what do you think?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Yeah, I mean, tough matchup for the Titans in Week one. I mean the Broncos probably have the second best defense in the league behind the Green Bay Packers. No, but seriously, the Broncos. Broncos have a terrific defense. It's not surprising that the Titans struggled on the road in Denver with Cam Ward making his first NFL start So things are probably going to look a little better this week even though the Rams defense is no pushover. So I've got Pollard ranked RB18. He's a solid volume play. I've got Ridley at wide receiver 32.

[Ryan Warmley]

All right, let's go to the late afternoon slate on Sunday. Panthers at Cardinals Did Bryce Young really turn back into a pumpkin after his strong finish last season or was this just a very bad fluky week one? And kind of along those lines, Fitz, do you expect the Panthers offense to bounce back at all this week being.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Without Icky Equanu, their starting left tackle, a top 10 draft pick didn't help last week. Like Icky had to go and undergo an emergency appendectomy a few weeks ago. I think they get him back this week like he was I believe back at practice on Thursday so that would help. I'm. I don't know. I'm cautiously optimistic that Bryce looks better this week. I've got him ranked QB24 so I I guess the optimism only only goes so far.

[Derrick Brown]

DE Bro yeah, I was looking up Aquanu's stuff. Limited practices on Wednesday and Thursday so probably a 5050 but I hope he's back at week probably next but to Fitzy's point, Bryce didn't look good. But I'm not pressing the panic button after one game, just looking at some of the deeper metrics for him. Like still had the 14th best highly accurate throw rate, third lowest off target rate. So I think it was a bad game for Bryce Young. I think the bigger thing for me is I think like his lack of weapons dude like Xavier Legette is not it. I think that is a bigger, more concerning thing and they are not giving J.T. sanders full run in this offense. They're her obsession with having Tommy Trimble on the field. So this could be more of like I mean outside of Tedro McMillan, who are you worried about the passing attack.

[Ryan Warmley]

Like he's getting open is like the important name to bring up. Do you think Bryce can be good enough to support TMAC in the way we thought throughout August? Or does this concern you for McMillan going forward?

[Derrick Brown]

No, I think. I think he's going to get his volume and he's good enough and it here's the thing, if he's not good enough, we're going to see some Andy Dalton pretty much soon.

[Ryan Warmley]

Okay. Broncos at Colts D RO the Colts are arguably going from facing the worst defense in football to the best this week. You know, setting aside Green Bay for fits, we're still starting you Know, guys like Taylor and Warren obviously are very much in starting range, but specifically Michael Pittman Jr. Are you interested in starting Pittman coming off of his big week one?

[Derrick Brown]

No, I'm not. Patrick's return, man. Like, no, I'm not. I'm not playing Pittman. There's no way. There's no way that I'm playing Pittman. Sir Tan followed Ridley on 87% of his routes. Cam Ward only threw in that direction when really when, when Sir Tan was on Ridley once. That's. No, I'm not, I'm not starting Pitman. No fits.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Yeah. Patrick Sertan isn't going to shadow Alec Pierce. So I've got pit. I've got.

[Derrick Brown]

Yeah.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Where do you have Pitman? DBro? I've got him. RB or wide receiver 47. 7.

[Derrick Brown]

I'm probably living in that range. Actually. I think I pushed him outside of my top 50, to be honest. Yeah, I've got him at wide receiver 51. I put. I pushed him outside of my top 50 because I'm like, there's just, there's just no way, man. No way. Certain is awesome, man. Like, this is Reevis island in 2025.

[Ryan Warmley]

He's wide receiver 43 in ECR just for reference. That's in, that's in. Half PPR score.

[Derrick Brown]

All I can say is if you play him this week. Week. Good luck.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah. D Ro I have a second question on this game. What did we make of the running back usage in Denver in week one? Obviously you were very high on RJ Harvey coming into the season.

[Derrick Brown]

Frustrating to say the least. I. I didn't think that Sean Payton was going to roll with a three headed committee with Tyler Beatty getting a 25%, 25.6% route share. But dude, Tyler Beatty, he goes back into nothingness. Like if he just goes away in this backfield. RJ Harvey has the role that I thought he was gonna have from the get. So, you know, can Beatty hang around and this is more of a frustrating thing. Yeah, definitely. But the thing for RJ Harvey is that you wanted to see in week one to demand basically more work in this backfill to prove that he deserves it is every time you give him the ball, he's making plays and he ripped off the long run. So, like, I think better days are ahead for R.J. harvey. I thought, you know, J.K. dobbins, we saw really good. I think he's a solid start man. J.K. dobbins, I have his RB, like his, his usage in this backfield. He got all three of the red zone carries, we know what he's going to get. He had 18 touches. He's probably a lock for 14 plus and maybe a touchdown this week. I think with how Bo Nicks looked, the big thing that I I think that my takeaway for looking at how this game could play out b Knicks looked really rough in week one. This is a game and a game script where if Denver wants to just lean on their rushing attack and feed Harvey and feed Dobbins and their two backs, I think this is one of they could do that, put up points and book those running backs, come away with good days.

[Ryan Warmley]

Fitz, what do you think, particularly in this matchup for this back?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

First of all, dbro, this is for you and for my friend Jeff who listens to this show. It's Tyler Bidet. Like that thing in a French bathroom that you use to.

[Derrick Brown]

You know, I've heard 70 different ways to say is there and I'm wrong. If it's bidet, I'm wrong.

[Ryan Warmley]

But negative percent chance DBRO has ever used a bidet.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

So he says himself that's how it's pronounced. Bidet. My friend Jeff tried to correct me. He's a Missouri grad who goes to Mizzou games and he said the PA announcer at Mizzou always pronounced it Beatty, so he assumed that was correct. Well, Jeff, you and the PA announcer got it wrong. It's bidet, so I'll own it.

[Derrick Brown]

Okay?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Excuse me. So I've got, I've Got Dobbins ranked RB27 this week in RJ Harvey RB38 like it's a Sean Payton backfield. We know both guys are going to get work, they're both going to get targets. They're both going to be worthy of at least flex consideration. But for now, it does look like Dobbins is the preferred fantasy guy and probably the only startable guy in week two. Out snapped Harvey pretty dramatically in week one. I wish we had gotten more than a 29% snapshare from Harvey. Like I'm guessing that does increase in the weeks to come. I mean we saw the juice on that 50 yard run. Man, he looked amazing on that. But you know, he only played eight more snaps than Tyler. Bidet.

[Ryan Warmley]

Bidet last game in the Sunday late slate. By the way, this is just like I9 games on the early slate. 3 In the late slate is ridiculous. I hate is a big game though. Eagles at Chiefs. Fitz, I'll start with you on this one. What are our expectations for Chiefs pass catchers in this game. And you know, when I wrote this question, I was like, pretty certain Worthy wasn't going to play. He is practicing in a limited capacity. So, you know, take that for what it's worth. But if there's no Worthy, what do we expect expect out of the pass catchers in this one with no Worthy.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Rice, I'm just gonna assume he doesn't play. Like, I can't see him play.

[Derrick Brown]

Like, yeah, I don't think he plays.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

You know, and I know that was an early game. He's had like an extra two days but after dislocated shoulder. So if he doesn't play, I feel like there's no way Hollywood Brown can sniff 16 targets again. Like almost all of those targets were within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage too. Like, I think a great under bet is Hollywood on 16 and a half receiving yards this week. Like his average depth of target in that game was 6.3 yards and that number was like dramatically inflated by the play where Mahomes was scrambling and the Chargers defense totally lost track of Hollywood and he caught a ball like 25 or 30 yards downfield. Like, I just worry that dude isn't going to make it through a game if they keep asking him to catch these short little passes and then deal with tacklers who outweigh him by 50 to 100 pounds. So I, I think maybe it's a more equitable target split this week between Hollywood, Kelsey Juju and Taekwond Thornton, who seems like he's going to be their designated deep ball guy. We'll see. But I, I'm, I'm betting the under on the sort of usage we saw for Hollywood last week.

[Ryan Warmley]

By the way, we have an. Are they playing tool of fantasy pros Xavier Worthy? Based on the models is a 41 chance to play. That's based on like practice status and things like that. That. That feels a little high. But it is also still saying that it's more likely than not he doesn't play. So I, I would continue to operate under the assumption he doesn't. But you can continue to check that tool and see if that changes given whatever practice looks like on Friday. Dbro. Again, assuming Worthy's not there, what do you think this pass catching group is going to look like?

[Derrick Brown]

Fitzy, I love you so freaking much, man. I just went to Hard Rock Bet and hit the under on Marquis Hollywood Brown for 63 and a half receiving yards. 63 and a half. Yes to everything Fitzy is talking about here. Like, here's the other point, we all lived in a world last year because Fitzy, you remember this. You're going to remember this as soon as I bring it up. The week where we all talked about Juju Smith Schuster and a high volume role and a Rasheed Rice role, we all remember that happened last year. Would we all be absolutely in an incredibly shock, shocked and dismayed if juju comes out and he's in the high volume role this week and it's not Hollywood, to Fitzy's point. Like, that's just not Hollywood's game, man. Like you don't want to sit here and feed him all those freaking targets. Like he's gonna get destroyed, he's gonna get hurt. Like he's been getting hurt the last few different years and I don't want to see injuries and stuff like that. But that's also not the best utilization of his talents. So the other part we had to talk about here is Hollywood, he played more out of the snap last week. Out of. Excuse me, out of the slot.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Slot.

[Derrick Brown]

He played more out of the slot last week. That means Cooper Jean, that's not good things for Hollywood Brown this week. So if you want to pick on anybody in this Philadelphia secondary, I think it's easily Dory Jackson. Okay, well that's probably going to be one of these outside wide receivers. Taekwond Thornton, who, dude, that kind of speed versus Adore Jackson. Good luck. Or just juju on the outside. So no, I'm, I'm more or less fading. Hollywood Brown, like I think that that was a one off.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Off.

[Derrick Brown]

I'm not saying that he doesn't get targets and usage and stuff like that, but 16 targets. No. And to Fitzy's point, yeah, most of that came on one broken play.

[Ryan Warmley]

Let's go to Sunday night football. Falcons at Vikings Falcons running game. 22 rushes for 48 yards from the running backs and the Vikings passing game, just 143 total passing yards. No receiver with more than 44 yards. Both struggled in Week 1. Fits which unit does better in this matchup again, Falcons run a game or Vikings passing game?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Good question. Like I would say that I'm just gonna bet on Bijan. Like the Vikings do have a really good run defense. But I, I want to bet on Bijan to, to bounce back this week.

[Ryan Warmley]

Debra.

[Derrick Brown]

I, I'm gonna say I'm gonna bet on the Vikings passing attack. I know. Shocker. Shocker.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah.

[Derrick Brown]

Because J.J. mcCarthy. But dude, he looked good. He found his second half. He looked after that game. I mean, but I mean, first NFL start on the road in his hometown. All of those things and everything that it could possibly have gone wrong went wrong and we haven't even brought up here did they get Darasol back this week? If that happens too, then better days for J.J. mcCarthy are ahead. I I just, I'm more inclined to bet on this passing attack and it's not really a slide against Bijan, but I think the offensive line injuries for the Atlanta Falcons did play a role in Week one. Bijan saved his day with a monster receiving game and he could do that again this week. I just don't know if we're going to see the efficiency and the Minnesota Vikings run defense is legit and has been for two years.

[Ryan Warmley]

We've got a double header on Monday Night Football, which I never enjoy. One of those games is Bucks at Texans. I'm going to try not to ask about a Mecha Puka every single week and we did ask about him last week, but it feels like we have to talk about it more. Coming off of his two touchdown NFL debut, Where is he ranked for you guys for this week as his encore? And also where is he ranked rest of season among receivers for you guys? Fitz, I'll start with you.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Come on, Worm. Can't we get a Kate Otten question in here? I mean that's give the people what they want, man.

[Ryan Warmley]

I I this is the last game I came up with a question for I I actually really could not think of going. So finally I was like I'll break break the Igbuka glass in case of emergency. I just we can always talk about it.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

I've got Igbuka wide receiver 23 this week, wide receiver 27 rest of season. Like I I don't think Chris Godwin is going to displace or substantially devalue Egbuca upon his return.

[Derrick Brown]

DBRA wide receiver 22 for this week and wide receiver 18 for the rest of the season. I think I I dude, dude. I don't think we see a healthy version of Chris Godwin for the entirety of this season. Like the sharp people that I care about their injury analysis Deepak Jeff Mueller, like people that I follow and I actually care about their injury analysis do not forecast that Chris Godwin is going to be 100% maybe at any time this season. Like people are like oh he's back at practice and then like the team immediately comes out and says like oh yeah, he's probably not going to play for a while. So you know, and pump the brakes like, like I Just think that like that's going to impact it. Like I don't think they're going to rush him back. And I think drafting Igbuka makes a ton of sense now. Like with, you know, what we know now about Chris Godwin and the Jalen McMillan injury. And I don't even know if we see McMillan for the rest of the season, man. Like the neck issue is serious. Like we might even see him come back at the buy. So I think the Abuka stuff is real and it's here to stay.

[Ryan Warmley]

Fitz, what would you need to see out of Ibuka to move him up that high? Wide receiver 18 Rest of season, just.

[Pat Fitz Morris]

A bigger target volume game. He had what, six targets in week one. So I'm like, I love the guy, no question about it. But just, you know, is. And is the passing game with the Buccaneers going to work as well with Josh Grizzard at the controls instead of Liam Cohen?

[Ryan Warmley]

All right, last game here. Chargers at Raiders. Which statement do you guys buy more and deeper? I'll start with you on this one. Ashton Genty who had 2.0 yards per carry in week one was overrated this draft season or Justin Herbert who was QB5 in week one scoring and some of the scores ahead of him are, you know, guys that we don't expect to stay there was underrated this draft season. So again Ashton Janti overrated this draft season or Justin Herbert underrated this draft season relative to their position. Debro, what do you think?

[Derrick Brown]

You can't pay me to say that Genti was overrated. I'm just, I'm not doing that. So. And I think also to pair with this, yes, Justin Herbert was massively underrated. Like, and again not wanting to overreact, but I talked about this during that throughout the off season I talked about the, the range of outcomes and like believing because a lot of us pushed back about like Greg Roman's high pass rate last year and I said like look, they either go back to being what we've always seen from a Greg Roman offense or this is signal about what could happen in 2025. And I was like both of those things could easily happen. Like, I'm not saying that I definitively know. I'm just leaving the door open that like, like we could get a pass heavy offense for the Chargers. Because dude, like I think we can easily say this is the best passer at this point of his career that Greg Roman has ever had to run an offense through. Like, and this is no shaded Lamar, but Lamar was not the passer that he is today, earlier in his career, he just was not. So. And you look at the previous quarterbacks, Colin Kaepernick, Tyrod Taylor, like, these guys were not like top of the league passers. And Justin Herbert is man, like, like because we all have to talk about the Greg Roman offense that we saw in week one is the, is not even close to any Greg Roman offense we have ever seen ever before. He's doing all the things smart, all the things wise. He was 12th in play action rate, ninth in most motion rate, 13th in neutral passing rate, and second and pass rate over expectation. If I took all of the, if I took Greg Roman's name out of this and I just gave you those statistics, would we all say, oh, is this a Ben Johnson offense? But they're using a crap ton of play action, they're using a crap ton of motion. Like what's the difference except the name? That's all that's plastered to all these statistics. And maybe this doesn't like continue throughout the entirety of the season, but what do we see out of week one and when he's checking all of these boxes and Justin Herbert has Keenan Allen, Lad McConkey and QJ and I think the breakout is real for QJ. Dude, yeah, I'm, I'm bought in on Justin Herbert.

[Ryan Warmley]

Herbert, yeah. I don't disagree that Herbert's a better passer than Lamar was at the time that Greg Roman was coordinator. Greg Roman also was like not designing modern NFL like passing, but he is now like, yeah, yeah. But I just want to be clear that it wasn't just like he was limited by his quarterbacks. He was also limiting his quarterbacks passing games to himself. But it didn't look like that this week. Like, for sure, I'm totally with you. Like I, I, Besides the two guys on Sunday Night Football, you know, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, besides those two, I thought Herbert looked like the best quarterback in football this week. Like, like the eye even setting aside.

[Derrick Brown]

The stat, he shut a lot of people up this week.

[Ryan Warmley]

The eye test alone was like holy. And I've always been a, a Herbert believer. I have liked him. I am not one of these guys who's, oh, he can't win in the playoffs so therefore he's bad. I have liked Herbert. I thought he looked insanely good in one. Just the eye test alone. Also, I want to be really clear. Clear. Fitz. I didn't mean that Ash Genti was overrated. I meant that you know him as a fantasy, you know, first round guy was when I say overrated, obviously we still really like the player, so I just want to be clear about that. But same question to you. Fitz was Genti overrated this draft season or Herbert underrated?

[Pat Fitz Morris]

Quick word about Genty. He had no running room. He was getting hit like right at the line of scrimmage on a lot of his plays. But if the Raiders continue to sling it around like they did against the Patriots, like, he's going to have more room to run because, like Geno Smith was dicing up the Patriots. I'm not worried about him. Yeah, same take as D, bro, that Herbert was underrated. And I'm definitely feeling some remorse that I only got Herbert in like one league. And I did worry about Greg Roman and Debro, in addition to Debro's point about Herbert probably being the best pure passer that Roman has ever had. Like, it was also the fact that this team just drafted Omarion Hampton in the first round and signed Najee Harris. Like, I figured they were going to run the ball a lot. And I don't want to read too much into their run pass split from week one because Najee not up to speed after missing camp. I can understand why they wouldn't repeatedly want to slam their rookie running back into the teeth of a perennially excellent Chiefs run defense. But now the Chargers have multiple pass catching weapons too. Like lad McConkey is awesome. Keenan Allen is still good, aging very gracefully. And I don't want to jinx it, but it looks like Quentin Johnston went out and bought himself a decent pair of hands. So I don't think Herbert's talent was ever in question. He's a terrific passer and a good runner. It was just a question of whether he'd be steering run heavy offense and it looks like that might not be the case.

[Derrick Brown]

QJ's happy to go more man. He learned how to putt.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah, I don't, I don't have a lot of Herbert in redraft this year. I. I was pretty aggressive actually in acquiring him in Dynasty the last two offseasons, like kind of pushing back against the Greg Roman narrative. And I'm feeling pretty good about that at this point. All right, we'll wrap things up there. We went a little long this week. Best luck to everybody here in week two. This is like week one. We know the matchups for so long. We think about them for so long. We're just coming off draft season. There's nothing to react to yet. Week two is the first like real week of fantasy and like what do we see last week? How are we adjusting lineups? All that? So very excited for this weekend of games and the rest of the season moving forward. Board, dbro and fits. I'm Ryan Warmley. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you again next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast. If you love the show, the best, best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on apple [e-mail] review or on Spotify. Follow us on X Instagram and TikTok at fantasypros and subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube.com fantasypros.

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