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The Biggest Fantasy Football Questions For Each Team in Week 12 (Ep. 1859)
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This is an iHeart podcast. Fantasy Pro's Fantasy Football Podcast is brought to you by Grainger. If you work as a maintenance manager, your facility is your home turf and your home field advantage is having a partner like Grainger. They offer trusted professional grade products for every industry from lighting and electrical to safety and everything in between. Plus fast dependable delivery. Which is why they always come through in the clutch. Just like you. Call 1-800-granger. Click granger.com or just stop by Granger for the ones who get it done. Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm Ryan, warmly joined as I am every Friday by Derek Brown and by Pat Fitzmaurice. We are talking week 12 key questions just a few weeks left here in the fantasy regular season. We will try and get everybody over the top this week and into those fantasy playoffs here in the next couple of weeks. Quick reminder for everybody that all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypros.com/ Rankings. Also a reminder for everyone, there are four teams on by this week. We had just two last week. We are back to four. It is the Broncos, the Chargers, the Dolphins and the Commanders. So make sure you get those players out of your lineups. Guys, before we dive into the key questions, any thoughts on last night's game, particularly any condolences for the Josh Allen manager in your league, Fitzgerald?
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Yeah, that's going to be hard for people who had Josh Allen to stare at that stat line for a few days. Same with Nico Collins. Not really a good day. Really? There were not too many guys in that game who had great fantasy days like James Cook obviously with the long touchdown run early. Didn't do a lot after that, but enough to have a pretty good day. Khalil Shakir, heavily involved, goes over 100 yards so that was good. Was there really anyone on the Houston side? Like we got the touchdown out of Jaden Higgins and and DBRO and I were lamenting before we turned on the mics that like Higgins looks so good and we wish Nick Haley would play him more.
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Yeah, that's been a common refrain from you DBRO this season because Nick Haley.
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Is a bottom five oc. He's terrible. I, I just situationally, if you watch that game last night, nothing he did make any made literally any sense. I was very happy to see like Fitzy pointed out Jaden Higgins his role continuing to grow. We talked about that on the waiver wire show. He got a 67% route share last night and dude soaked up a 30% target share. And if you watch the game, he was so close to having a monster game. If Davis Mills could hit him on a sideline throw, not hit him in the back on a go route, it would have been nice. But back to Nick Kaylee. Man, just situationally poor play calling. Like, you have a Buffalo Bills run defense that is God awful. It's Swiss cheese. This is like how you beat them is just run the ball straight, straight down their throat. You come out passing, you continue to pass. There's about four to five minutes left of the game, you're up by four points, you get the ball back. And even Herb street, and I'm not a big Herb street guy, was talking about, okay, this is nice. A nice spot to sit here and put a long drive together to salt away the clock, bro. Comes out passing with Davis Mills against the Buffalo Bills, I. I can't make this stuff up. I'm sorry. Texans fans, I hope you get a better OC next year.
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Fitz, we don't need to spend too much time in this game, but I do want to ask, like, is the Texans defense one that you are going to be actively avoiding going forward here? I mean, like, like Josh Allen is as matchup proof as it gets for a fancy quarterback. He wasn't great against them the last time he faced them. He was obviously terrible last night. It's a really, really good defense. And you know, Josh in particular has struggled the last couple times facing them. I know nobody cares about, like, you know, my Guillotine league, but I. I have started him the Guillotine, and I'm worried I'm gonna get knocked out this week because you never think about that being the case with somebody like Josh Allen. But the Texas defense is so good. Are they a defense that you're going to be actively avoiding in the future?
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Yes, it is a skull and crossbones defense. Or the Broncos, you know, the Rams and Seahawks are close to being in that inner circle of top defenses. There's one other really elite.
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I'll say Patriots are getting there. They're not there yet, but they're getting close.
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Patriots are pretty close. Like packers are sort of on the outer circle, but like, I think the two that you.
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Philly recently.
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Yeah, Philly is the third one. Like, those are probably the three right now that you do not want to see going up against your best players. Houston, Denver, Philadelphia.
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Yeah, it was just. They put the clamps down like it was. I've been very, very impressed when I.
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Say it was a week early. We had the conversation about Josh Allen and then he made me eat those words last week and then this week it was like and I'll I don't think you're I'm not going to say you're wrong with the Josh Allen stuff, Worm, but like I will absolutely give it a His offensive line gave him no time. He has no answers. He has no wide receivers that are difference makers. Holy crap. Seems like a wide receiver, one that you can lean on a dependent and clutch moments is actually kind of a thing you want. Interesting Buffalo Interesting.
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Yeah, I the offensive line has not been good this season for Buffalo, but also Houston's defensive line can make a lot of offensive lines look like that. Like I think it's both. The offensive line is not good and obviously the weapons aren't great but also the Houston defense is like obscene. So keep that in mind going forward here. Let's jump into the early slate. We'll start off with a big spread here. Jets at Ravens I want to ask about Todd Taylor, you know getting, you know, officially starting now in place of Justin Fields for the Jets. The Ravens defense has been playing better. Their season long numbers, if you look at like fantasy matchup stuff, still really enticing because of that how terrible they were early in the year is dragging it down. They've been better as of late. They haven't been playing the toughest offenses as of late but that kind of continues here. So having said all that, Deborah, I'll start with you. How does Tyrann Taylor starting impact your rankings for any jets players you would consider starting this week?
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Not I mean it's really not pushing the needle for me. I do think the jets players do get more catchable targets like Tyrod's been depending on what metrics you're looking at. Not going to say incredibly impressive. The eight odds been kind of low. But he's first and highly accurate throw rate, third and catchable target rate. So you are getting an upgrade from Justin Fields. But I think looking at just the backbone of this offense and what they're going to do and what they're not going to do is they don't want to pass the ball a ton. Maybe that changes a tad under Tyra Taylor. But I mean outside of like Mason Taylor, who are you even considering in fantasy right now? Like I'm not playing AD Mitchell in any freaking like facet or league or anything. I'm not so for you at all. I mean a little bit in the sense of okay maybe they get into the red zone four times in a game versus three or two times, you know, so maybe it helps raise his floor on a weekly basis. But his, his volume outlook is. Is pretty much the same for me. So I don't want to say it's a total push, but I mean, in most aspects it's kind of the same.
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Fits any more, even if it's not a lie. But any more inclination to consider any of these pass catchers? Um, any change to Breeze Hall's ranking or is it pretty much going to treat it the same as you did with Fields?
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Yeah, I mean, the jets wide receivers go from completely unplayable to completely unplayable with slightly low lower numbers next to their names in the rankings. Like, I think my highest ranked jets receiver is John machi at wide receiver 61.
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Oh, I gotta find mine.
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And I've got. I've got Breeze hall at running back 19. I've got Mason Taylor, tight end, 21. I think I'm like a spot or two below consensus on both. Gu Just do not really want to invest in this offense.
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In Super Flex, T is listed as a start in ECR. He's QB22. Some of that is there are not a lot of good options. Like, like you get past that top 20, there's really no. I mean, the name's after Taylor, Geno Smith, Kirk Cousins, Flacco, who you know, Burrow might be back Burrows in the top 32. Shador Mason, Rudolph, Cam Ward. I mean, stop me when you get to a name that you want to start right? So like, I get why he's up there at 22. The point is like, there's not a lot of good quarterbacks this week. So in a pinch, you might have to in the rankings suggest that that's okay in Super Flex at the very least. This is, last I checked, this is the 13 1/2 point spread. Just quickly, you guys think the Ravens cover that or like I kind of think they don't. Like, I think the Ravens are getting better and better. I don't know that they're back to the point of blowing teams out.
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I think I. It's close in the, in the pools where I had to pick every game against the spread. I took the Jets. It just. They haven't, they haven't quit on Aaron Glenn. That's basically when I see a spread this big this late in the season. I just want to know if the. The team has quit on its head coach yet. And I don't think the jets have.
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Yeah, I, I think they cover only because I'm Kind of curious. Like to your point, Worm? Like, is the Ravens defense for real? Like to your point? Also like they play Caleb Williams, JJ McCarthy, Tua and the combination of Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders. So like that's pumping up their numbers a lot since Week seven. But the other side is they, they might, those numbers might be for real and they might cover here. So I kind of lean on the COVID side. But I I wouldn't be betting it.
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I I think the offense is where I'm more concerned if I'm taking the Ravens. Like they just don't feel like an offense that's totally cohesive to the point of beating a team by multiple touchdowns right now. And maybe this is the week they get it kind of all back together, but it looks quite there. So yeah, we'll see what happens here. I think it's a big number though. I I would take the jets side. Let's go to Steelers at Bears sticking in the AFC north here in ECR this week. Roma Dunes, a wide receiver 19, DeAndre Swift running back 18. So about the same range for these two guys. Which player do you think will have the better day against Pittsburgh? Basically, what's going to be better, the passing game or the running game? Fitz will start with you, Roma Dunese or DeAndre Swift?
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I have to go with Swift. He is RB 16 and a half point PPR fantasy scoring on the year and RB 10 in fantasy points per game since the Bears came out of their Week 5 buy. Swift is getting a lot of touches, 21 and 22 in his last two games, chipping in as a pass catcher, averaging 2.6 catches and 23.3 receiving yards a game. The Steelers are just kind of a neutral matchup against running backs coming into the season. I never really would have thought of Swift as this steady, reliable type of player, but DeAndre Swift has become exactly that. Romo Dunes A, meanwhile, has been kind of all over the place since the early season. The touchdowns have dried up on him. He had five touchdowns in his first four games and he's only scored one touchdown in six games since. And the reception and yardage totals have been just all over the map. His last five games 2 for 31, 7 for 114, 0 for 0 against the Bengals of all teams. I'm sure the Romo Dunes investors remember that one fondly. 6 for 86, 2 for 41. So the Steelers do give it up to outside receivers. And the weather in Chicago this Sunday is supposed to be pretty mild, so maybe this will be A big odunse game wouldn't surprise me, but I think Swift is probably the safer bet here.
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I will note so usually I do these sheets earlier in the week and I want to double check on like how ECR has changed. I did this one later in the week because I had some computer issues this week. So even just within less than the last 24 hours, Swift I just checked now actually has gone up. That's more of a change than we tend to see later in the week. So he's actually up to RB16 now for what it's worth. So it seems like consensus is agreeing with you there. Fitz dbra do you see it the same way where you like Swift at his ranking better than a dunes at his I do.
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I will say to the other side of the coin, the Pittsburgh Steelers run defense has improved like since Week 8. Seven fewest rushing yards per game, fifth lowest yards of the contact per attempt. But the Bears their offensive lines playing good. I think this is a game another game to end. If it's these points about Rome, I think a lot of that or a lot of those things are Caleb Williams stats. Rome Rome has been held down because Caleb Williams has been so freaking volatile. Like good matchups, he's done really really well in middle of the road or tough matchups. He just folds like a wet paper bag. So I think Rome's volatility is really really like tied to the hip of Caleb Williams. But to also to Fitzy's point, I think Swift is the better bet here. I think Chicago has been able to run the ball. Their offensive line has been playing pretty freaking good. Swift has been breaking tackles at a high. Like Swift's efficiency has been one of the most surprising things of the year for me. Like seeing a guy that amongst 54 running backs is 13th and explosive run rate 17th and missed tackles fours per attempt. Those are numbers we haven't talked about like even in close to the area code of DeAndre Swift since like the early Lions days. So to see that bounce back has been nice. And I take Swift here.
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They have been doing a great job of run block. Yeah, I mean the investment the Bears made in the middle of their offensive line in the off season with Thuney and Jonah Jackson and Chris Stallman was just it's paid such big dividends for them. It's really at least allowed Caleb Williams the chance to be the best quarterback he can be. Which maybe is still not as good as we would like to see. But he's coming along to the point.
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About the running game. I was surprised. Kyle Menon guys RB36 in ECR like behind both Tennessee running backs going up against Seattle. Like I, I, I think he, I'm not saying he should be inside the top 20 or anything, but I think 36 is maybe a little low given some of the names ahead of him and the chance that I think he gets in in the end zone. I mean I, it seems like they want to use him when they're close to the goal line. I think the Bears are going to score on Pittsburgh and, and the running game has been really effective. So I, I think that's probably going to look a little low by the time we get to the end of the week. Not, not that I'm saying he's a strong start or anything, but I, I'd, I'd bump him up in the rankings a bit from there. Let's go to Patriots at Bengals. Drake May has been fantastic this year, of course, but he still does not have a 300 yard passing game in his career. Is this the week against this putrid Bengals defense that he tops that milestone for the first time?
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Debra, I'm gonna give a layer with this. I'm gonna say yes if Joe Burrow plays because if he doesn't play, then I don't think the Bengals push the Patriots enough to where they can throw. And there's so many avenues like that. The Patriots could put up points in this. Like they could just hand it to Trayvon or Raman Dre and just shove it down their throat all freaking day. If Burrow plays there, they will be able to push them to where May gets to that point. Outside of that, I think there's a lot of variance and touchdowns and maybe you get a defensive touchdown in this game with Flacco.
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That's interesting. Let me ask you the question first, but then I want to follow up on that on that borough point. So what do you think about drake may getting 300 yards in this game?
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I didn't realize he hadn't had a 300 yard game. Yeah, and I've got him in a lot of leagues. I just, I know he hadn't thrown for fewer than 200 yards in any game this season. Didn't know the 300 yard stat was there, so I'll say no he doesn't in this game. With the Bengals run defense so bad and with Ramond Ray Stevenson coming back this week, the Patriots have this nice one, two punch a running back. Patriots OC Josh McDaniels can have the luxury of being balanced with this play calling. And there really haven't been that many high volume passing games for Drake May this year. He threw 46 passes in that weird week one loss to the Raiders. He had 37 pass attempts in the Patriots. Only other loss, week three against the Steelers. But since week four, Drake May is averaging 26.8 pass attempts per game with a high of 34. That sort of volume just isn't really conducive to 300 yard games even against bad defenses. So maybe it would take the Bengals upsetting the Patriots or at least throwing a good scare into them for May to, you know, ramp up the pass volume because he's averaging 41 1/2 pass attempts in those two New England losses in wins, only 26.3 pass attempts per game.
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Interestingly, without a 300 yard game, he leads the NFL in passing yards. Now he has an extra game over a lot of quarterbacks because he hasn't had the buy yet. But he does as of right now, 11 weeks in lead the league in passing yards without a 300 yard game speaks to both. I think his consistency and maybe some of the quarterback play elsewhere around the league. On, on the Burrow stuff. Fitz, do you agree with DBRO that Burrow coming back would. Would kind of change how you look at this game? I. I actually would be very inclined to fade a Burrow led offense coming back weeks earlier than was initially expected on the timeline. Like whatever Rust there is, whatever like just coming off the injury. I not that Flacco, like, I mean he's been really, really good at times of course, but like not that Flaco is better than Burrow, but I just don't know what kind of Burrow we would see. Do you see it similarly to Debro where Burrow coming back would really change the way you evaluate this Bengals offense. Like just going to get back to normal right away.
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You think Burrow's better? No question. But I don't know. Like I just still see it as being a really pass heavy attack for the Bengals no matter what. And probably more efficient with Burrow and probably less chance of interceptions. But maybe I see it kind of the way you do there. I'm not sure what a Burrow return should be worth as far as the point spread. Like two points.
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Two points, about a point and a half. I think that's close. Yeah.
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Let me ask you this. If we get news, let's say later this morning, we get news that Burrow is going to start. Where is he going to rank for you guys in the Q QB rankings this week.
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I I think the the thing we need to throw into this conversation is that Joe Flacco is not fully healthy. There's a shoulder issue. So also you're getting the upgrade to Joe Burrow if he does play better. But also like the the reports of Joe Flacco wasn't even going to throw until later in the week. I'm like, oh bro, if you were questioning can you throw? Can he play? I'm burrowing the right I would put.
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I would slot him in at number nine, right behind I've got Stafford Goff Purdy at six, seven, eight and then I would slip him in ahead of Dak Prescott, who has that tough matchup against Philly. And the Patriots are kind of a pass funnel too. Their run defense is so good, so Burrow would probably have to throw a lot as long as he got the all clear. So QB9, yeah, I'm with you, right.
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Ahead of Jacoby Brissette. That's exactly where I'm at.
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Fitzy it's kind of funny like on the Are they playing tools? I've never seen a player have full practice Wednesday, full practice Thursday, and a 38 chance to play usually the it's obviously a bit of a unique situation here with Burrow, but yeah, yeah, like I said, I I'd probably be inclined to fade him his first game back. But I mean, the fact that he's practiced in full twice this week already. We'll see what happens Friday is like pretty remarkable and makes me rethink that a bit. Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. If you're listening to this podcast, you're probably deep in the stats, injury reports and matchups. Put your fantasy football knowledge to the test on Hard Rock Bet. Sign up with Hard Rock Bet today and you could score $150 in bonus bets. Just place a $5 bet. If it hits, you get not only your winnings, but also $150 in extra bonus bets. Not sure what to place your first bet on? Head over to the Hard Rock Bet Stats Hub and it'll help you out. It's loaded with trends, streaks and stats to help guide your picks. Numbers don't lie and neither does the data in there. Check out the Stats Hub now. Get the edge and bet with confidence. The Hard Rock Bet Sportsbook app is the only legal sportsbook for whenever you're in Florida. It's also live in Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois and Colorado. Coming soon to more states too. Plus, Hard Rock Bet offers new promos every single day, so whenever you're listening, just open the app and check out what you've got. Any day of the week, download the Hard Rock Bet app and make your first deposit payable and bonus bets.
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I do think it is as simple as that. And Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery go from facing a really tough Eagles defense to going up against the Giants, who ranked dead last in DVOA against the run worse than Cincinnati. I know the Bengals have been more generous to receiver or to running backs in fantasy, but this Giants run D is bad. And I know Gibbs got a decent. You squeezed a pretty good fantasy performance out of him last week thanks to his pass catching. But this is the week I think he goes berserk on the ground. And there's probably enough room for Monty to put up 70 or 80 rushing yards, too. So I think you're starting Jameson Williams, obviously. Amon Ross, St. Brown. I don't know if you're reaching into the bag and pulling out Brock Wright, but yeah, the four principles, plus Jared Goff, all great starts this week.
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Yeah, deep ro. I mean, both the running backs are ranked inside the top 22 in ECR. Both receivers ranked inside the top 16. Amonra and Jameer are both ranked inside the top three. So the consensus rankings, I think probably unsurprisingly, see this as a full bounce back. Jared Goff, QB7 here in the rankings. Do you have them all pretty aggressively ranked too?
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Yeah, aggressive. I guess. The guy I'll highlight here is I want to be above ECR and David Montgomery. This just kind of feels like a spot to kind of get right. Like he has one touchdown since week week six. I think he scores this week. I was gonna bet his anytime touchdown odds, but sadly they are not good enough to sit here and lay the quiche with. So I think he gets in the end zone. I think we probably get some kind of random score. Not from Brock Wright, but say, like Isaac Tasso plays and he catches a long one at the end of the game.
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What.
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What are the anytime touchdown odds on? Oh, gosh, it was minus last I looked.
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It was. It was minus or it was close to was. I was hoping. Dude, if it was like plus 185, I was gonna lay some.
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Oh, yeah, you weren't gonna get that. I mean, anything plus money would be a decent bet, but at mine, I.
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Want to say it's. I want to say it's minus. I'm pulling it up right now, but man, I, I will say one thing. With Sam Laporta being out of the lineup, it does make this a little bit more of a predictable offense, like less mouths to be, you know, because I don't think Brock Wright's gonna challenge for as many targets. Yeah. On every single book right now it's minus 105 to minus 125. Darn it.
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The, the spread in this game on hard rock bet is 10. I thought this was gonna, I didn't think it was gonna be bigger than like New York, Baltimore or Seattle, Tennessee, which are both 13 and a half, but I thought it'll be a little bit closer to that than it is at 10. I, I, I mean this is in Detroit. They're angry coming off of a really embarrassing offensive performance like outside of La Porta, they're, they're basically healthy. Like I, I kind of expect Detroit to, to smash the Giants, honestly. Do you guys see it that way or do you think that's a fair line?
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You know what that is? That's a Jackson Dart line. That's Jackson, that's them projecting Jackson Dart to play and keep them in the game when he shouldn't be in the game. That's, I think that's just, that's all that is.
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But yeah, Fitz, I'm with you. Coming off a loss, playing it at Ford Fields, they are probably going to smash the Giants. But Jackson Dart has been so resourceful. He has kept the Giants in a lot of games that we didn't think they were going to be in.
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Yeah, that, that's kind of where I'm at. But this feels like the Commander's game all over. Just like Dan Campbell and them just unleashing the beast and unleashing the rage.
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I, I tend to agree with that. I think I, I have a, you know, pool where I have to pick five games every week against the spread and of those five highlight my two favorites for extra points. I think that might be one of my two I highlight.
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I just the only I would take a look see at the status of Brian Branch and Tyrion Arnold though, aren't they both wasn't Terry and Arnold's concussed and Brian Branch had some sort of leg issue.
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Toe. Toe issue. Branch was DNP and then limited, so we'll see if he plays. And yeah, Terry on Arnold's pre probably going to be out of this game. He hasn't even practiced this week. That's a good, that's a good call, Fitzy. And if Dart plays.
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Yeah, let's go to Vikings at Packers here. Coming off a two touchdown game. Where are you ranking Christian Watson this week and also where are you ranking him rest of season? Debro, you are the Christian Watson guy. So I'll start with you here.
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Oh, man. I mean I'm, I'm aggressive on. Well, I say I'm aggressive. I got about wide receiver 25 for this week. Worm is, where is wide Watson and what ACR this week?
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Let me switch back to receiver. He is at wide receiver 27.
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Okay. So I mean I, I do want to be above consensus. I am slightly. I'm at wide receiver 25 and I've got him at as a wide receiver three for rest of season, wide receiver 35 and rest of season rankings. I just, I look at their schedule for the remaining part of the packers games and there's so many teams that they're playing, including this one this week. I mean that just give it up to the deep ball, man. Like they get two more games against the Vikings, two more games against the Bears. I think there's a game against the Ravens that's in there as well. And all of those teams, yeah, all those teams are top 12 in deep ball completion rate allowed. Like Minnesota is giving up the highest deep ball completion rate in the entire freaking NFL. Hello. Christian Watson, like he's gotten eight deep targets in four games. Yes, he's going to get utilized in that aspect.
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Worth noting when thinking about rest of season schedule that the second Vikings game is week 18. So not for most people's fantasy seasons just to mention. But yeah, obviously there's other good matchups in there too. Interestingly for this week, Debro, he is one spot behind his teammate Romeo Dobbs.
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Oh, I'm actually, where am I at on Dobbs? I want to say I'm even more aggressive on Dobbs. Like.
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Okay, so you've got both of them inside the top 25 then.
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Yeah, Dobbs is wide receiver 22 for me.
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Okay. Fitz, do you see it like that way too where both these guys you think are really strong plays this week and specifically I want to hear what you think about Watson rest of season.
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Yes. And Debro and I need to go on the hundred thousand dollar pyramid because we've got a mind meld going. We've got, I've got Watson, wide receiver 25 this week, wide receiver 35 rest of season, exactly the same. And it's funny, Watson since coming back, wide receiver 27 and half point PPR, fantasy points per game, right in line with ECR. So he has to be involved. The packers went from having one of the best pass catching tight ends in the league to basically having nothing at tight end. Luke Musgrave is not going to give you even 50% of what Tucker crafted and none of the other Green Bay receivers are alpha types. So Watson isn't going to be a big target hog either. But with an average depth of target over 20 yards, he gets high value target.
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C
And to your point, Fitzy. I was surprised we mentioned this in the waiver wire column. Dude, he had a 19% target share and he led the team with a 33% first read share last week. So like they pumped more of the volume through him. But I guess bearing the lead here, we're both high on Dubs and Watson. I I think Jordan Love has a bounce back game in this one. Like I I want to be above consensus. Where do you have Love this week?
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B
Not high because I'm worried about that offensive line.
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C
Okay.
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B
Giving him time.
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C
Okay.
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B
So I am below consensus on him as I was last week. I've got him quarterback right now. Quarterback 17. Okay.
- [29:44]
C
I've got him at 14 and I'm looking at consensus.
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A
He's 16 in consensus so I'm a little bit.
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C
Okay, that tracks.
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A
So fits a hair low lower than consensus. D row a little bit higher.
- [29:57]
C
I think it's a good spot for the passing game and I think maybe they lean on on Love a little bit more this week with Josh Jacobs his status even if he plays, you're he's not going to be a guy you're feeding 30 carries to this week.
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B
But they could easily give Emmanuel Wilson 18 and Chris Brooks 12.
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C
That's fair. Fair.
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A
Let's go to one of the most fun matchups of the week. Colts at Chiefs. Imagine saying that back in August that this was going to be a circle the circle the game type of a matchup here. Very fun, surprisingly meaningful matchup. So just give me a player whose consensus ranking you disagree with in this game fits, starting with you.
- [30:36]
B
So I think the biggest gap between my rankings and ECR for any player in this game is with Kareem Hunt, who I have 5 spence spots above consensus. But that might have to do with whether people are ranking I Isaiah Pacheco or not. I'm not and some people probably are. So I'll go in a different direction. I'll go with Daniel Jones. I'm two spots higher than consensus on him and I know he has been a train wreck in his last two starts. Four interceptions, 12 sacks, six fumbles. The Ghost of Daniel Jones passed and he was still kind of okay for fantasy in those two games though. Nearly 600 passing yards in those two games games. A couple of touchdown passes, 57 rushing yards, a touchdown run. So maybe Patrick Mahomes can can push Daniel Jones into a shootout on Sunday. I've got Jones at QB11 this week. He's QB7 in fantasy points per game this season. I still think he's a worthwhile fantasy asset, but I'm sure Colts fans are terrified with what they've seen from in the last couple of weeks.
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A
I mean it might be a suckers bet to say like oh it's the Kansas City Chiefs and we thought the Colts were going to be terrible at the start of the year. Chiefs -3 at home is like an auto bet. But I view it as like an auto bet. Like I, I don't think the Colts are going to win this game. I think that, I'm not saying the Chiefs are going by eight touchdowns, but I think the Chiefs are going to win this game like definitively. And if they do that, maybe it does push Daniel Jones to get some garbage. Not garbage time numbers, but to have to throw a lot and, and to try to keep up. Deborah, how do you see it?
- [32:14]
C
I do think the Chiefs win. I, I do think that this game is probably closer. I the thing about the Chiefs defense is their run defense is still spectacular. Their past defense has taken a step back. Like Bo Nix didn't have a wonderful fantasy day. He did have a very solid just NFL quarterbacking day. So I think that some of that it is very much dependent about which version of Daniel Jones that we get this week. If he looks like a pumpkin, then yeah, the Chiefs are going to roll and they'll cover and all that kind of stuff. If he can look more like early season Daniel Jones, this game is going to be fascinating. And I, I wrote this, this game took a lot of time in the primer. There's so many parts or pieces and chess pieces to this game with coverage stuff that is so freaking fascinating that I can't wait. Like I wish I could get in a time machine and go to like next week right now and look at all the data of how this game unfolds because I think it's absolutely fascinating. But that leads me to one of my and I, I feel like it's not to the same extent. I feel like we're doing this just like kind of on cruise control ranking similar to like what people had been doing with Keon Coleman to Xavier worthy he's wide receiver 31 in ECR right now and I don't understand why the hell he justifies that like over the last four weeks. Wide receiver 473857 58. I think you're going to get a Colts past defense that's going to go out of what we saw last week. More man heavy and things like that. I think they're going to drop back in too high. I think they're going to eliminate Patrick Mahomes from going down the field which is fine. He could chew you up underneath with Rasheed Rice and Travis Kelsey and they're probably going to do that all freaking day. But again that points back to no Xavier Worthy like the colts in week seven. Seven through nine were 53% to 65% too high. Xavier Worthy has been a freaking ghost against too high. He has a 15 target per route run rate and 0.64 yards per route run. He has been a nothing burger. I want nothing to do or starting Xavier Worthy. If that burns me, so be it. I don't think it will.
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A
Let's say you've been playing the waiver wire quarterback game this season. Would you rather start Jacobe Brissette or Daniel Jones in this game? De Bro.
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C
Oh that's a good. All right. So floor damn it. I'm going with Jacoby Brett.
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A
He's been a QB record setting performance dude.
- [34:37]
C
He is. He has been a QB one. Not to flip this all the way back to Jacoby Brissette. He has been a QB one in every single start he's made this year.
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A
That.
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C
That's. That's insanity. That's 2025 in a nutshell for me.
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A
Fitz, what do you think about those two? Brissette or Jones?
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B
I have Brissette ranked one spot higher.
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A
Yeah. By the way, five minutes ago Jackson Dart ruled out. He has not cleared concussion protocol for Sunday's game against Alrighty then.
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C
Well Lions are covering go take lions.
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A
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C
I literally just took Detroit -10. Like oh I had it pulled up on my Side screen. I was like, let me get this.
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A
Before they pull it. Go squeeze it in here. Yeah, I think that's smart. Like, I, you know, again, those, those big lines I often am wrong on. I, I just, I think the Giants are gonna get kind of crushed in this game. Let's go to the last game in the early slate here on Sunday. Seahawks at Titans. Another big spread here. Sam Darnold was seeing ghosts against the rams in Week 11, but has otherwise been excellent in 2025. Obviously we are not expecting another four interceptions this week, but just how much of a bounce back do you expect from Seattle's offense? Fitz, I'll start with you.
- [36:10]
B
I think the Seahawks implied total for this game is 27 points, which sounds about right. I'm expecting sort of a low volume, high efficiency game from Sam Darnold. I just think he'll have the luxury of playing the way Seattle wants him to play and the way he was playing earlier in the season where he wasn't throwing a lot, but when he did, he was doing it with ruthless efficiency. So he's thrown Fewer than 30 passes in six of his 10 games this season. And I'm guessing this is another game where Darnold throws fewer than 30 passes. So I'm sure around 10 or 12 of them are going to go to Jackson, Smith and Jigba, who can certainly smash on that sort of target volume. I think maybe the main beneficiaries of this matchup for Seattle are the running backs Kenneth Walker and Zach Charbonnet, both playable against a Titans defense. It's giving up the six most fantasy points per game they're running.
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A
So what do you think about the total fits? It's 40 and a half. And my gut reaction when I saw that was under, because I'm like, I don't know how Tennessee's scoring on the Seattle defense, but on the other hand, like if they just get one touchdown at some point in the game, Seattle can get to in the mid-30s. I think just if they have another one of these games where they're really efficient and have this bounce back now that they're not facing the Rams. So what do you think about that line?
- [37:23]
B
The. The inclination seeing a Titans game go into the 40s with the Vegas total is to bet under.
- [37:29]
A
Yeah, yeah. That was my gut reaction too. Like I said. Debro, what do you think about this game and particularly Sam Darnold and the offense bouncing back?
- [37:38]
C
I think the offense bounces back, man. I think like you're looking at this, this matchup, I Mean this is if Seattle wants to go where they want to go, man, they, they need Sam Darnold playing good football and talking about ghosts of Christmas past. Like you've alluded to it Worm like over the last few weeks like since week seven. Sam Darnold leads the NFL in interceptions. He has the second highest turnover worthy throw rate. The Titan secondary is a very good get right elixir. So I think Sam Darnold has a bounce back game. I think the offense looks more potent and efficient this week. The player that I'll throw In here is A.J. barner. I think that he has a good game and San Darnold has a really big bounce back game. I think Barner is a very streamable tight end. Been very good versus too high coverage. I think he can score a touchdown this week.
- [38:24]
A
On Hard Rock. Bet Seattle has the seventh best odds to win the super bowl this year. Oh, I know Sam Darnold has been really good this year. I find myself still thinking like I, I just can't get there with Darnold. They're plus 1200. The teams ahead of them are the Rams, the Eagles, the Lions, the Chiefs, the Colts and the Bills. I like, I can't really get there with the Colts either, honestly with, with Daniel Jones. But yeah, like I, Seattle's defense is so good. I'm such a believer in Mike McDonald and JSN is so good. But Fitz, I just can't get there with Sam Darnold.
- [38:57]
B
Totally get it. It's a lot like the Broncos whose defense is amazing. But can you even if the Broncos get home field, can Bo Nix win three games? Can he win three games for the Broncos? I, I have more faith in Sam Darnold, I think than I do in Bo Nixon. And the Seattle defense is almost as good as the Broncos defense. But it is kind of the same proposition with the Seahawks that it is for the Broncos.
- [39:23]
A
Yeah, yeah. I mean some of the names that are in that same range with Seattle and Denver, Buffalo, Baltimore, Green Bay. I think Seattle's a better team than all three of those teams. Like, like clearly. But yes, I would rather pick any of them if we're talking to win the super bowl because any of those quarterbacks can get, can get hot. Not that any of them have made the super bowl before, but I just have way more faith in those quarterbacks than a guy like Darnold or Bonix.
- [39:45]
C
So I have a lot more faith in the high end moments of Jordan Love than I do Sam Darnold.
- [39:50]
A
Yeah, I, I totally agree. I Asked about the super bowl because I don't have anything else in this game, I this is like not interesting to me at all. Seahawks are gonna smash start.
- [39:59]
C
No Titans. That's, that's the other takeaways. Don't play any freaking.
- [40:02]
A
Do not start it.
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C
No.
- [40:04]
A
Let's go to the late afternoon slate. We just mentioned Jacoby Brissette so we'll do Jags at Cardinals. Michael Wilson had a huge game with Marvin Harrison Jr. Out last week. Harrison is missing another game. So how aggressively are we ranking Wilson with his as I mentioned now record setting quarterback in Jacoby Brissette dbra starting with you.
- [40:22]
C
Oh, he's been such an interesting player to sit here and try to rank this week. Right now I've got him at wide receiver 23. The matchup is there. The volume should be there. If he doesn't go off or at least have a really strong game that that leads to that ranking paying off, then Dear God, Trey McBride is going to break the freaking slate because the Jaguars can't stop tight ends. But I that's where I'm at. Like Michael Wilson's probably going to get a ton of freaking volume in this one. Since week seven, Jacksonville's allowing the eighth most PPR points per target perimeter wide receivers. So I do have some kind of heebie jeebies about like is this an outlier one off game? Is this late season Trey Tucker like ah, but I'll follow the volume.
- [41:04]
A
You said why does he were 23, right? Yeah, that's lower than consensus. He's wide receiver 20 in consensus. That's in half PPR scoring. Fitz, where do you have him?
- [41:14]
B
I want to get to what Debro was just saying about Michael Wilson and that dilemma about how to think about him in just a second. But I've got Wilson ranked wide receiver 18. I think there's a reasonable expectation for nine to 10 targets against a pass funnel Jags defense. Opponents are throwing against the Jaguars 63.6% of the time. Only the Colts have faced a higher passing rate by opponents. And does Drew Petzig keep slamming Bam Knight into a pretty good Jaguars run defense that ranks eighth in dvoa or does Petzig let Jacoby Brissette cook? And he has been. He's been cooking, man. So I think they have a throw heavy game plan here. So about Michael Wilson last week I mentioned on I can't remember if it was this show or the ranking show that Wilson had averaged 1.09 yards per out run for his career going into that game against the 49ers, which is a terrible number just for sake of comparison. Van Jefferson Career yards per outrun 1.18 so not not to dump on Van Jefferson, but he's a journeyman who's played for five different teams in seven NFL seasons. Fine as a fourth or fifth receiver, useful depth piece, but no fantasy values. So for Wilson to have a lower career yards per outrun number than Van Jefferson seemed pretty damning to me. But I think that was bad analysis like yards per outrun is a really good stat because it factors in the ability to draw targets and the ability to do something with those targets. But I wonder if maybe yards per route run has done a disservice to Michael Wilson. And maybe it's more of a Kyler Murray stat in this case than a Michael Wilson stat because Kyler Murray's a one read quarterback. Basically he looks at the first read, maybe a second read, and if it's not there he just starts boogieing around. Michael Wilson has not been Kyler's first read very often. His first read Target Share According to our Friends at Fantasy Points data, it's been well under 20% in all three of his seasons in Arizona. And Jacoby Brissette is just a different kind of quarterback and maybe a much better quarterback for Michael Wilson. Michael Wilson was a third round pick. A lot of people liked him as a prospect and really the biggest questions about him coming out of Stanford were he had a lot of injuries in college, didn't play more than six games in any of his last three college seasons. So obviously Michael Wilson benefits from Marvin Harrison Jr. Being out. But I know that my guy, Matt Waldman, author of the Rookie Scouting Portfolio, he thinks Michael Wilson is a better route runner than Marvin Harrison Jr. So I am in on Michael Wilson now that he's the de facto number one receiver in Arizona for another week or two. And I think I have to do I have to reconsider Wilson as far as like my dynasty rankings and where I'm going to be putting him in 2026 rankings because it seems like Kyler Murray and the Cardinals are headed toward a divorce and Michael Wilson still has another year left on his rookie deal.
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C
That's a good shout out. And to add to your point, I was looking this up as you were talking Fitzy Michael Wilson last year amongst 100 qualifying wide receivers, 45th in separation, 42nd and route win rate. So not bad at all, man. Like I I think there's something to that and I I've been shouting to the high heavens of the last few seasons. Kyler Murray is terrible. He has been God awful. He has been limiting to this entire offense and like I know we've given Drew Petzing a lot of crap on certain seasons and shows and things about Marvin Harrison Jr. I mean maybe kind of we do we point a lot more fingers back at maybe Kyler Murray has just been that bad and that limiting over the last two years.
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B
Maybe.
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A
By the way, to your point D Ro about Trey McBride. He's ranked inside the top 12amongst flex players which is not common for a tight end to get inside the top 12 when also compared to running backs and receivers. That's how good of a matchup that is and obviously just how great he's been lately. So Trey McBride breaking news gonna be awesome. Probably another week. Browns at Raiders first NFL start for Shador Sanders what are our expectations for Shador Dibro?
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C
Man, it's gonna be a wild day. Wild day, wild day on I already know it's gonna be a wild day on social media regardless of however this goes. But I, I hope for better things for Shador. I I don't know know if we get better things. I think a lot of this comes down to what can the Cleveland offensive line do versus Max Crosby. That's going to be a huge factor in this and really just, I mean absolutely just pounding in a distributor's head like get the ball out of your freaking hands. We cannot run circles in the backfield. You cannot do this stuff like throw the ball away. Live the fight another day. I I would like to say that I have hope. I'm cautiously optimistic but I could see this going very, very poorly.
- [46:11]
B
Fitz Shador's player prop for yardage is at 161.5 passing yards at Hard Rock Bets. I would bet the over on that. The fantasy pros projections have Shedeur at 179 yards.
- [46:27]
C
So it's good call.
- [46:29]
B
He could, he could smash this total and still not have a very good game.
- [46:32]
C
That's a good call.
- [46:34]
B
179 yards. Still not a very appealing number for fantasy Browns Ragers Raiders has a Vegas total of 36 points. Shador is probably going to have Max Crosby in his face all day. I just, I don't want to play any Browns in fantasy except maybe Quinn. Sean Judkins.
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C
I agree with that.
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A
I definitely agree with that. I don't know if I actually agree on the prop. I I mean he was 4 of 16. I wasn't a star.
- [47:02]
B
He came in ice cold.
- [47:03]
A
I don't but what he, what he struggled with was the same thing he struggled with in college, which is pressure. He could not handle it at all. So that was not like a surprising, like I don't know that that was him coming in cold. Cause that's what he was at Colorado. This is still a bad Browns offensive line facing Max Crosby. I think he's going to be under a lot of pressure and I think he's going to look really, really bad. It's a really low line to, to your point, but I, I, I do not think he's going to look good.
- [47:29]
B
At the same time, I would think Stefanski is probably going to drop some quick hitting stuff for him. Stuff that can, that's all they've been.
- [47:35]
C
Doing with Dylan Gabriel too.
- [47:37]
B
Yeah, make him, make him feel a little bit more comfortable. Do some stuff where he doesn't have to like take seven step drops, sit in the pocket, have everyone swarming him.
- [47:47]
C
To your point, Worm. Since week seven, the Raiders have the seventh lowest pressure rate. So if, if Max isn't getting home, then nobody's getting home. So I think that that's a big point. So like Stefanski would be very wise to sit here and take the Dylan Gabriel playbook and just make everything underneath short. Quick hitters, play a lot of heavy personnel, give help to the side where Max Crosby is and then you probably have decently clean pockets. I like to call out for the overpassing yards, but I hope he plays good. But I, I, I will agree with Fitzy. Like I would love to get a clarification too out of Stefanski is like, has he had any first team reps or is that just been they said.
- [48:25]
A
On the broadcast that Stefanski talks their player development like a lot. And like we set aside time for the backups to get these opportunities in practice. I don't, obviously I don't have the details of that, but on the broadcast they told, they were talking about that once Shador came in that Stefanski had a lot of faith that if he had to come into a game like prior to it actually happening that it would be fine. And like they, they really believe in their player development and all that stuff. So I, I, I remember the exact way they phrased it, but they did talk about that on the broadcast during that game and obviously he did not.
- [48:59]
C
Stefanski's vibes, anytime Shador is brought up are not good. That's the only thing. It's oh my God, that guy just seems like it just screams he was forced to draft him and not not like he didn't want to.
- [49:10]
A
Yeah, I would. Would my job be on the floor if he was okay? No. But I'm not expecting it. It was. It was as poor performance as I can ever remember even from a backup quarterback coming in cold. It's as poor performances I can remember watching from from a backup quarterback. It was really bad on Sunday. But that's a good point about the Raiders not getting home as much if it's not Max Crosby, which definitely will help help Shador a lot. If you want a chance to win a signed Justin Jefferson Vikings jersey for free courtesy of our friends@pristineauction.com all you need to do is head to fantasypros.com contest, complete the form and either download the Fantasy Pros app, leave a review for the podcast, or follow us on x Instagram or TikTok at Fantasy Pros. The more actions you complete, the more entries you receive. We will be announcing a winner on the podcast near the beginning of next month. If you're watching on YouTube, be sure to subscribe and turn on those notifications so you can be alerted when new episodes are up and to claim your prize. Next game up here guys. Eagles at Cowboys so I think it's a really interesting matchup on both sides of the ball. So I want to kind of on both sides have you tell me which unit you think wins. So explosive Cowboys offense versus the stingy Eagles defense and then the inconsistent Eagles offense versus the bad but maybe improved after the trade deadline. Cowboys defense. Let's start with Cowboys offense first. Eagles defense fits who wins that matchup.
- [50:28]
B
I'll say the Eagles defense. They have completely smothered the packers and the Lions. Two pretty good offenses in their last two games. Jalen Phillips was such a nice addition for them man. Like he was just they had so many nice pieces in place already and he was just the maybe one missing ingredient. Their defense is pretty healthy. I think the Eagles defense is a really tough matchup for any offense right now.
- [50:54]
C
DBRA yeah, I think it's the Eagles defense, dude. Since week 7th they're 5th and pressure rate. They are getting home. They weren't doing that at the beginning of the season so I think their secondary is is outstanding. Fangio has been in his bag. Yeah I think it's the Eagles defense.
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A
And then how about the other side of the ball? The Eagles offense versus what has been a bad Cowboys defense.
- [51:15]
C
D Bro, I think the Eagles offense and I think specifically Devonta Smith and Dallas Goddard Smith you saw in Week 1. Dallas went with too high on 57 of the defensive snaps I think you see a similar game plan because if you just run too high coverage you're taking A.J. brown out of the equation. He has been so coverage sensitive like versus single high 2.1 yards per route run versus too high 1.3 yards per route run. So you can take him out of the equation playing two high safeties. And this is also a Kevin Patulo problem. No Tommy P. I do not believe that Kevin Patulo needs to be or will be a head coach in the NFL. If anybody's watched the Eagles offense, you know this. But I think it's a good day for Devonta Smith. I think it's a good day for Dallas Goddard as well. Dallas has given up the 10th most receiving yards per game to opposing tight end. So out of those two guys I think they they the Eagles run their offense through them also with a large smattering of Saquon Barkley.
- [52:09]
A
So you're picking the Eagles on both sides of the ball. It sounds like you like them. Minus 3 Yep, sure do. Okay, Fitz, what do you think about the Eagles offense versus the Dallas defense?
- [52:20]
B
Me too. I'm with the Eagles here. This is I would maybe buy the the possibility that the Dallas defense is better now than it was early in the season with Quinn and Williams and getting some some injured guys back. But I know the Eagles offense has been frustrating, but it is certainly not for lack of talent on that side of the ball. Although Lane Johnson being out, that is unquestionably a problem for the Eagles. But they still have a pretty good offensive line even without Lane Johnson. I know they've maybe underperformed a bit this year, but I'm, I'm going with the Eagles here.
- [52:56]
A
All right, well since you guys are both in line on that one, we can move on. Falcons at Saints how significantly are we dropping Falcons players with Kirk Cousins now starting at quarterback fit?
- [53:08]
B
Well, not dropping Bijan Robinson or Tyler Algier. In fact, maybe Kirk Cousins actually benefits those guys for fantasy since the Falcons are incentivized to take the ball out of Kirk Cousins hands as much as possible and lean on the running game. I've got Kyle Pitts tight end 8 and Darnell Mooney wide receiver 32. Not excited about either guy, but maybe they get target bumps with Drake London out. Although a target bump might not mean that much when the quarterback is Kirk Cousins.
- [53:36]
C
Yeah, Fitz and I are kind of hand holding on ranks. I got, I got mooney at wide receiver 32 pits. I've floated him anywhere from like tight end 7 to tight end 10 just depending on who I'm kind of looking at for volume and stuff. So I'm not, I think like with Drake London being out of this game, I'm not dropping anybody a ton because I think the volume gets more consolidated between these players and their offense. So I'm not saying that I have a lot of faith in Kirk Cousins but let's also like not give too much praise. Michael Penix hasn't played good this year either.
- [54:09]
A
Yeah. Is there, where are you ranking pits?
- [54:12]
C
D Ro I've got him at tight end eight right now but like I kind of want to move Dallas Goddard above him. You can make a conversation for Juwan Johnson above him. He's, he's going to live in that low end tight end one kind of ilk.
- [54:28]
A
You mentioned Fitz Algier. Where is he ranked for you?
- [54:32]
B
I have got him.
- [54:35]
A
So it's just he's RB38 consensus by the way.
- [54:38]
B
Yeah, I'm surprised it's that low. I have got him. Geez, I've got him running back 30 I, I probably have to move that down. I, I right now I've got him ahead of Bam Knights and I've got him ahead of the two Titans.
- [54:54]
A
I was going to say like the two Titans. I mentioned them with Manangai. It's the same thing here. They're both ahead of Algier and I just like, I mean again I really don't expect Tennessee to do anything against that Seattle defense and I would just much rather take a chance on Algier Orman on Guy getting into the end zone than starting either of those, those Tennessee guys. Truthfully.
- [55:11]
B
Yeah, I do think I need to move them behind Bam. Nice just based on volume but then again it wouldn't shock me if Tyler Algier got a dozen carries this week.
- [55:21]
A
Yeah. All right, let's go to Sunday Night Football. Sean Tucker coming off a fantastic game against the Bills with Bucky Irving still out. Are you interested in starting him against the Rams dbra I'm not.
- [55:33]
C
I, I, I just got to give a lot of respect to the Rams run defense. I mean since week seven, a fewest rushing yards per game allowed, fifth lowest explosive run rate, fourth lowest yards of contact per attempt. Tucker has to get all of his production on the early downs because he's not going to get a lot of pass gain if any. Hardly any past game utility. We're still kind of wondering does Bucky Irving player not and then does this come become like a three way committee this week I just don't have a lot of faith in Sean Tucker. I think for the Buccaneers to put up points in this game, I think it's going to have to be through the passing game and I just don't think Sean Tucker is going to be involved in that.
- [56:11]
B
Fitz yeah, we've been talking about the hierarchy of NFL defenses on this show so far with the Texans and the Broncos and the Eagles I think are our top three. But then right behind them are the Rams and the Seahawks and maybe the packers and who else? There was maybe one more we forget Patriots we mentioned as being close. So yeah, it's just such a tougher matchup for Tucker than he had last week against a bad Bills run defense. And Even with the 140 yards from scrimmage and two touchdowns last week, Sean Tucker played 11 fewer snaps than Rashad White in that game. And now with this much tougher matchup, tough matchup, partial workload, I'm not very excited. I've got Tucker at RB27.
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A
I think the second question that we have for Sunday Night Football is we're going to highlight our favorite three and four star props from the prop bet cheat sheet ahead of Sunday Night Football. That's something we're doing every single week. Fitz, I'll start with you. What's your favorite three or four star prop from the prop bet cheat sheet this week?
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B
Well, talking about how tough the Rams defense is, I'll go under 241.5 passing yards for Baker Mayfield. This is a three star bet on the betting pros player prop cheat sheet. So yeah, Rams do have a top five defense and they have the fifth lowest opponent passer rating in the league and they're giving up the sixth fewest fantasy points per game to quarterback. So this is also why have Baker Mayfield ranked outside of QB1 range this week. I've got him down at QB14 and Baker's in sort of a mini slump. He's averaging 5.7 yards per attempt over his last four games. Like this Buccaneers passing game has not been working lately, Debra.
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So I mean Fitz and I are, we're, we see this game very similarly. I am going to go to the other side of the coin though. I'm going to take the over one and a half passing touchdowns which is a two star bet on betting pros right now for Baker Mayfield. I agree with Fitzy on the yardage and I agree with the tough matchup. I just think back to the Tucker point. If they're going to try to Keep pace. I don't think the Baker plays well in this game. They have to move the ball through the air. And that's where I think playing like whether we talk about garbage time or catch up or matchups, I do think he gets to two passing touchdowns. But I agree with Fitzy wholeheartedly. Like, I've got Baker Mayfield at QB16 this week. Like I, I, I am. Oh gosh, this is going to scare me and go into our next game. But like, do you rank Bryce Young ahead of Baker Mayfield this week? That's a question. That's a real, real question.
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Well, you paused.
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You paused, Fitzy. It's a, it's a question.
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What do you think, Fitz?
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I mean, I don't as of now, but it is, it is kind of a real question. Yeah, we, we should talk about this Monday night game.
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Yeah, I was gonna say. So Baker is about three spots higher in, in consensus and we are going to get to that. But first I have to let everybody know that those were our top prop bets for Sunday Night Football this week, courtesy of Betting Pros. You can check out our NFL prop bet cheat sheet@bettingpros.com props premium subscribers have access to our 5 star prop bets which have a 57% win rate and we're up 88 units through week 10. Luckily, we've got a special offer for everyone to unlock a month of Betting Pros Premium for free. Download the Betting Pros app today and use promo code FP1 month at checkout to redeem your offer. All right, Monday Night Football wrapping things up. Panthers at 49ers. Bryce Young and Teterroa McMillan are both coming off the best games of their careers. How will this pair perform against the Niners on Monday Night Football? Fits.
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Yeah. So Bryce threw for more than 400 yards last week against the Falcons is career best yardage output and was not the only 400 yard passer on the week. The other one, Jacoby Brissette. Jacoby Brissette was playing the 49ers. Who does Bryce Young get this week? The 49ers. And the 49ers rank last in the NFL in sacks. They only have 12 sacks this year. Their sack rate is 2.9%. Next worst sack rate is 3.9%. They are last in pressure rate at 13.1%. I think the next worst is 15.6%. 49ers cornerbacks are basically sitting docks with such a feeble pass rush and even a mediocre quarterback can look like vintage Tom Brady if he has all day to sit in the pocket and wait for his receivers to get open. So it is a really good spot for Bryce Young. And Debro asked me that question, and I'm looking at where Bryce Young is in my rankings. He's QB18, and I'm wondering if he shouldn't be ahead of Baker Mayfield, ahead of Jordan Love, ahead of maybe even Sam Darnold.
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A
The other name that's right ahead of him is Trevor Lawrence, which I'm sure you don't need to.
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B
Really?
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A
I'm just reading you the consensus. I don't agree with it either.
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B
I mean, in, in fairness, like, going into last week's game, before he lit up the Falcons, Bryce young was averaging 5.6 yards per attempt. That is a Canadian Football League caliber number. So. Yeah, and. And under 200 passing yards a game. Like, things were pretty bad for Bryce Young, but great game last week. And you know this. The setup for him is just pristine this week.
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Yeah, but by the way, he's 18th right now. He's really 17th because Jackson Dart is still ahead. That he's going to be out, you know, once that kind of has a chance to update. And then you take into consideration, like, Allen already played. So, like, of the remaining people, he's about QB16 in terms of consensus here. And then. Sorry, Fitz, did you say on. On Teo McMillan? Just what you kind of expect out of him in this game.
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B
Oh, sorry. Yeah, I've got him just outside QB1 range. Like wide receiver 15.
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A
He's wide receiver 12 in consensus.
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B
Oh, boy. I don't want to. I don't know if I want to be three spots below consensus on. On tmac.
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A
Yeah, let me make sure that hasn't updated here. Yep. Still wide receiver 12.
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B
Oh, man, I might have to do something about that.
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A
D. Ro, what do you think about those two? Young and Tet?
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C
I just moved Bryce Young. Oh, pray for me, people. I've just moved Bryce Young ahead of Baker Mayfield. I got him at QB15 right now. And I do have Ted Roman Mill in ahead of ECR. I have my wide receiver 11. I think this is going to be painful, but I, I think it's a real conversation this week. I think Tedro McMillan versus Justin Jefferson is a. Is a real rankings conversation. And yes. I mean, this is going to go back to. I. I agree with everything that Fitz laid out here. And Bryce Young, maybe future CFL MVP Bryce Young.
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He.
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C
He played well. I think he's going to play well again this week. Do I think he's the long term franchise answer for for the Carolina Panthers? Heck no. No way. But can he look like it this week versus the 49ers? I think it is definitely possible. And Tedro and Millennial just continuing to look like a freaking stud when I.
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B
Hear D Bros say Teterom McMillan versus Justin Jefferson is a conversation this week. What I'm hearing, I hear in the same JJ McCarthy is bad and I apologize for championing.
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A
I heard this.
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C
I mean I don't apologize for that. We we shall see how this plays out. But yes, I just yeah, I mean, yeah, Bryce Young ranked over JJ McCarthy at rankings owning Ls this week.
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A
I mean right now it feels pretty inarguable. You could, you could still plant your flag D bro that he could turn it around. But right now there's no arguments.
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C
I I, I have hope.
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Yeah. All right, we'll go ahead and wrap things up there. Best of luck to everybody here in week 12. A lot of agreement from Fitz and Debro today, so hopefully that's not a bad sign that that feels scary and dangerous when you guys are on the same page. For Debro and Fitz, I'm Ryan Warmley. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you again next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast. If you love the show, the best of free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on apple podcasts@fantasypros.com review or on Spotify. Follow us on X, Instagram and TikTok Antasypros and subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube.com fantasypros.
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