The Biggest Fantasy Football Questions For Each Team in Week 4 (Ep. 1736)

Summary

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Episode: The Biggest Fantasy Football Questions For Each Team in Week 4 (Ep. 1736)
Date: September 26, 2025
Host: Ryan Wormley
Guests/Co-Hosts: Pat Fitzmorris (“Fitz”), Derek Brown (“DBro”)

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Overview

In this week’s episode, Ryan, Fitz, and DBro perform a deep dive into the most pressing fantasy football questions for every NFL team heading into Week 4. The trio covers breakout candidates, lineup dilemmas, injury impacts, and key matchups, blending sharp analysis with their signature witty banter. Whether you play in redraft, dynasty, or DFS, this episode gives strategic insight for every type of fantasy manager.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL Scheduling: International Games and Time Zones ([00:00–04:16])

• The hosts begin with a light-hearted debate about the NFL’s expansion of international games.
• All three agree the novelty is wearing off, and the proliferation of early/overlapping games threatens the uniqueness of the NFL schedule.
• Pat Fitzmorris: “I want Monday night games to be standalone games. I want to be able to, like, watch all of whatever game there is.” (02:39)
• Time zone discussions turn comedic, poking fun at “made-up” Mountain time.

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2. Early Sunday: Vikings at Steelers in Ireland — Jordan Addison’s Return ([04:16–08:17])

• Jordan Addison’s impact in first game back from suspension:
  • Fitz: Expect a limited snap count (50–67%), not an immediate 90% usage.
  • DBro: Pittsburgh’s single-high-heavy defense is a plus match. Addison produced 2.2 YPRR and a 27% first-read share vs. the same structure last year.
  • Ranking spectrum: DBro WR34, Fitz in 50s but “should probably have him in the 40s.”
  • Addison boosts the offense but won’t dent Jefferson, Hockenson. Fade Thielen/Naylor.
  • DBro: “Even on limited snaps … I'm pretty confident he's going to put up a strong stat line.” (07:10)

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3. Commanders at Falcons — Bijan Robinson’s Outlook ([08:17–11:01])

• Washington has held opposing RB1s under 4.0 YPC. Is Bijan at risk?
  • DBro: Unfazed. Commanders’ defensive success is “more a function of competition than actual strength.”
  • Falcons rank 9th in yards before contact per rush (“a Bijan stat”).
  • Fitz: Not a matchup to fear. “Josh Jacobs did just fine. …Certainly not a matchup that's going to deter you from starting Bijan Robinson.” (10:14)
• Atlanta’s O-line and Bijan’s big-play ability outweigh middling run defense.

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4. Saints at Bills — Can Buffalo Cover a 16.5-Point Spread? ([14:45–19:54])

• Will the Bills cover?
  • Fitz: Yes, extra prep, at home. Expects a blowout.
  • DBro: No, expects garbage time “backdoor cover.”
  • Both agree Chris Olave is a must-start (“crap ton of volume” — DBro), and Dalton Kincaid is a potential letdown on the Buffalo side.
  • DBro: “If this number was like 12.5… then fine, I think they cover. At 16.5 … back door is always open.” (17:49)
• Notable stat: Saints interior defense weak enough that Kamara is viable.

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5. Browns at Lions — Elite Defense vs Elite Offense ([20:03–26:30])

• Who wins, Browns D or Lions O?
  • Fitz: Lions will succeed primarily through the air. Browns are #1 in DVOA vs run, but 18th vs pass.
  • DBro: It all hinges on the trenches (Mahogany/Ratledge vs Browns DL). If Goff stays clean, Lions WRs — Amon-Ra St. Brown, Jameson Williams — can exploit Cleveland’s banged-up corner group.
  • Both praise the Browns as a potential powerhouse if they solve QB.
• Memorable: “If they [the Browns] can just finally figure it out at quarterback ... they could be competitive in a hurry.” — Fitz (25:22)
• Both see the Browns defense “winning the battle” even in a possible loss.

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6. Titans at Texans — A Matchup to Avoid ([26:30–30:44])

• Lowest projected point total — 39.0.
• Path to the over? Only if Houston’s offense (Stroud, Nico Collins) exploits Tennessee’s bad pass defense.
• DBro: Calls game “gross,” points out calling shots on Nico Collins versus a declining L’Jarius Sneed.
• Consensus: Little fantasy value outside clear starters (Damien Pierce, Nico, etc.).

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7. Panthers at Patriots — Will Trayvon Henderson Be Unleashed? ([30:44–34:10])

• Henderson’s snap count trending up (45.9% last week); both co-hosts call this “the week he finally gets unleashed” after fumbles from Stevenson and Gibson.
• Fitz: Just needs to “hold onto the ball.”
• DBro: Panthers’ run defense giving up “eighth most rushing yards and third highest yards after contact per attempt.” Ranks Henderson RB23; Fitz more skeptical (RB31).
• DBro: “If this isn’t the game, I don’t know what game is going to be, man.” (32:06)

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8. Chargers at Giants — Cam Skattebo Breakout Binge ([34:47–40:31])

• Skattebo emerges as a must-start (RB14 Fitz, RB16 DBro). “He’s not giving the job back.”
• DBro: “You should be licking your chops to play Cam Skattebo this week.” (37:00)
• The Chargers’ defense is exploitable on the ground; Giants should feed Skattebo, especially with rookie QB starting.
• Rest-of-season: Both see Skattebo as a “comfortable RB2, high-end RB2” if healthy.

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9. Eagles at Buccaneers — Philly Offense Unlocked? ([40:31–45:54])

• Eagles: Second-half vs Rams not an outlier — they “unlocked” their vertical game, and should keep airing it out vs run-funneling Tampa D.
• DBro: “The Eagles felt like the person that locked their keys in the car.” (41:07)
• On the Bucs: Big target bump for Emeka Egbuka with Mike Evans out, but tough draw vs Quinyon Mitchell (likely to shadow).
• Both rank Egbuka as low-end WR2 mostly due to volume.

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10. Colts at Rams — Jonathan Taylor vs. Puka Nacua for Fantasy Bragging Rights ([45:54–51:29])

• Who is the better start and better season-long bet?
  • Puka Nacua: Both DBro and Fitz choose him for both, citing historic reception pace and huge usage.
  • DBro: “He’s scoring 24.5 fantasy points per game with one freakin’ touchdown.” (47:17)
  • Fitz draws Cooper Kupp 2021 parallels: “If Puka stays healthy, he could put up those types of numbers.” (48:28)
  • Both give due credit to Taylor as best “pure runner” in football.

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11. Jaguars at 49ers — Ricky Pearsall vs Brian Thomas Jr. ([51:29–55:21])

• For Week 4, Pearsall ranks higher due to opportunity (Kittle/Jennings out), but Thomas Jr. remains preferable rest-of-season… unless concern about his wrist/yips lingers.
• DBro: Most bullish on Pearsall even ROS — “He’s been fantastic … I got tons of questions about Brian Thomas Jr.” (53:12)

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12. Ravens at Chiefs — The Pacheco Dilemma ([55:21–59:46])

• KC’s Isaiah Pacheco: Poor start, but faces a Ravens D decimated by injuries.
• Both hosts skeptical he produces — low snap share, minimal involvement, KC doesn’t want to “feature” him.
• DBro: “If you’re willing to flex Pacheco again at this point, Godspeed.” (58:18)
• If he can’t pop this week, it’s drop time: “If you’re not starting him in this matchup, shouldn’t you just drop him?” — Wormley (58:43)

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13. Bears at Raiders — Can Caleb Keep it Rolling? ([61:24–64:21])

• Bears’ offense looked good last week but was propped up by a woeful Dallas defense.
• Both see another strong spot vs. Raiders (bad pass defense); Rome Odunze gets the single-high coverage he thrives on.
• DBro: Still wants to see Caleb excel under duress vs. top-10 defenses before moving to “believer” status.

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14. Sunday Night: Packers at Cowboys — Life Without CeeDee Lamb ([64:21–67:18])

• Cowboys passing game should struggle; Packers D is elite vs the pass.
• George Pickens gets flooded with targets but not all high-value; Jake Ferguson could benefit.
• DBro: “Michael Parsons is going to be in that backfield all freaking day standing over Dak Prescott. It’s not going to be good.” (65:19)
• Both predict 1–2 sacks from Parsons and a long night for Dallas' injured offensive line.

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15. Monday Night Football — Jets at Dolphins: Breece Hall Bounce-back? ([67:18–69:25])

• Both hosts independently project Hall for ~16–17 carries, ~75–80 rushing yards, 2–3 catches, and possibly a TD. Miami’s run defense is vulnerable.
• DBro: “I have Breece Hall for 101 total yards and a score.” (68:18)
• Both see opportunity for a run-heavy approach from both sides.

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16. Monday Night: Bengals at Broncos — No End in Sight for Cincy’s Struggles ([69:25–71:52])

• Bengals offense has “arguably worst O-line in the NFL,” can’t run, and faces top-five pressure/Broncos D.
• DBro: “You’re starting Jamar Chase on principle … outside of that I don’t want a single Bengal in my lineup.” (70:55)
• Chase Brown, as lead RB, is averaging only 0.02 yards before contact: “He’s barely at the positive, baby. By a toenail.” (71:31)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “The scarcity of football is a huge part of its appeal. If you get rid of that, you’re playing with fire.” — Ryan Wormley, [04:04]
• “Even on limited snaps … I'm pretty confident [Addison] puts up a strong stat line.” — DBro, [07:10]
• “You stack all that up against Bijan Robinson…I'm not worried.” — DBro, [09:44]
• “All we ask: Please Treyvon Henderson, just hold onto the ball.” — Pat Fitzmorris, [31:49]
• “[Cam Skattebo] is so much fun. I wasn’t sure how well his game would translate to the NFL … He’s so hard to bring down.” — Fitz, [35:38]
• “The Eagles felt like the person that locked their keys in the car… the keys to this offense should be the passing attack.” — DBro, [41:07]
• “[Puka Nacua] is the runaway WR1 in fantasy points per game right now with one freaking touchdown.” — DBro, [47:15]
• “If you’re willing to flex Pacheco again at this point, Godspeed.” — DBro, [58:18]
• “He’s barely at the positive, baby. By a toenail.” (on Chase Brown’s YBC) — Fitz, [71:31]

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• NFL Scheduling, International Games: [00:00–04:16]
• Vikings/Steelers & Addison: [04:16–08:17]
• Falcons/Commanders & Bijan: [08:17–11:01]
• Saints/Bills, Olave, Kincaid: [14:45–19:54]
• Browns/Lions – Best unit: [20:03–26:30]
• Titans/Texans – Grim fantasy: [26:30–30:44]
• Panthers/Patriots – RB shakeup: [30:44–34:10]
• Chargers/Giants – Skattebo hype: [34:47–40:31]
• Eagles/Bucs – Philly’s passing attack: [40:31–45:54]
• Colts/Rams – Taylor vs. Puka: [45:54–51:29]
• Jaguars/49ers – WR comparison: [51:29–55:21]
• Ravens/Chiefs – Pacheco’s last stand: [55:21–59:46]
• Bears/Raiders – Odunze/Caleb: [61:24–64:21]
• Packers/Cowboys – Lamb-less Dallas: [64:21–67:18]
• Jets/Dolphins – Breece Hall stat line: [67:18–69:25]
• Bengals/Broncos – Offensive despair: [69:25–71:52]

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Summary

This episode is a must-listen for managers scrutinizing start/sit and waiver decisions in Week 4. The panel breaks down injury shakeups (Addison, Cam Skattebo, Trayvon Henderson), clarifies what “bad matchups” really mean for studs, and isn’t afraid to torch fantasy “dead ends” (Isaiah Pacheco, Brian Thomas Jr. for now). With breakout calls (Skattebo, Olave, Pearsall), analytically-sound stat predictions, and instant reactions to the latest NFL trends, this pod is your edge for Sunday.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

I don't think that that's necessary. Like I, I wish the NFL would take away the Thursday night games and then move to like a Friday night game. And then like I like the, the Monday double headers and stuff, but all the international stuff, it's like, I get it and I understand like the, the global reach the NFL, I understand all of that, but it doesn't make it as as much of a novelty when it becomes so much more commonplace.

[A]

I, I agree by the way, on those Thursday games. Like I don't think it'd be very difficult if you said we're just going to do them during the time of year where there are buys and always just make it two teams coming off a buy and then you don't have this, like, immediate turnaround and then you can do the opener still as well because they have plenty of time before that. That's kind of my thought on the Thursdays. Fitz, what do you think about all these international games? Like, I get explaining the game, but it just feels like it's too much like you.

[C]

I would like to see fewer of them, maybe one or two of year, not five or six or whatever it is. I dislike those more than I. Excuse me. I dislike the overlapping Monday games more than I dislike the early Sunday games. The. The overlapping Monday night games just really annoy me. I'd like to, you know, I want Monday night games to be standalone games. I want to be able to, like, watch all of whatever game there is. And the first set was okay when they did not overlap. And we got two games that was cool. The overlapping ones.

[A]

Well, all the east coast folks had big complaints about the.

[B]

Everybody thinks they look like. Everybody talks like they're in East Coast. East coast time zone thinks that like the rest of the world lives in ecos.

[A]

I don't even know what time zone you like, because the other day on Twitter you were crapping on mountain time zones.

[B]

Well, mountain times made up. We all know that. I mean, they're all thinking, I'll count on one hand how many people we know live in mountain times.

[A]

Every time zone is made. I. I believe Denver has the most employees of any city at our company. You should show some respect to. To Mountaintop.

[C]

And by the way, Deborah, we're never getting NFL games on Friday nights. They're just never going to high school football. There are too many NFL fans whose kids play high school football and they are preoccupied.

[B]

And it'll never get Saturday night because then it'll conflict with college and the NCAA will riot. So. Yeah, no, I know. Just wishful thinking.

[A]

I just think we can move on after this. I just think that, like, the limited availability of football is a huge part of why it's so successful. Like, if there was 162 games, like in baseball, it wouldn' as special having a whole day dedicated. Dedicated to it every week on Sundays. And, you know, your team only gets to play once a week, so it really ma. If baseball was played only once a week, those games would be way more popular. Like, I. I think the. The scarcity of football is a huge part of its appeal. And if you get rid of that, I just think you're playing with fire. And not that it's going to become unpopular or anything, but I don't like it is My point, let's, let's dive into that Ireland game, Vikings at Steelers. And I want to ask about Jordan Addison, who is coming back off suspension. Fitz, we'll start with you. How will Jordan Addison's return from suspension impact the Vikings passing game for fantasy managers?

[C]

I don't think it'll be a big impact in this game. Like it's possible. We only see Addison play maybe half to two thirds of the offensive snaps. Like, I'm sure he's not. He's probably in cardio shape after being away from the team, but maybe not in football shape yet, you know. No, no hitting for him. Can't imagine he walks right in and plays 90% of the snaps. And Addison is probably not going to be completely in sync with Carson Wentz considering that Wednesday was the first day that Carson Wentz has ever thrown a pass to Jordan Addison in a Vikings practice. So a couple days ago that was it. And yeah, so like I'm not expecting a six catch, 90 yard game for Jordan Addison right off the bat.

[A]

Do you see any impact fits for what Addison does to like, are you expecting maybe a little bit less of a game from Jefferson Hawkinson, anything like that just to as they work him in and get him incorporated back into the offense?

[C]

Not those guys. But I would not start Jalen Naylor or Adam Thielen this week.

[A]

Okay. I don't know how many people were starting them regardless, but it's, you know, fair to point out. Dvera, what do you think? What are your expectations for Addison and kind of the offense as a whole with Addison back?

[B]

I mean, I think it's, it's better things moving forward for the Vikings. Unfortunately, the acquisition of Adam Thielen has been pretty useless. Like he's been a ghost the beginning of part of the season and I understand they've been more run heavy than we all kind of anticipated and things have kind of gone sideways. But also, did anybody think that through the first few games of the season, to this point of the season right now Adam THIELEN have only six targets, two catches and 26 receiving yards and a 9.2% target share?

[C]

No.

[B]

So considering that Addison's going to provide a boost for this offense and I mean I'm with Fitzy that like, I don't think he plays like 90 of the snaps, but I think when they're out there in passing downs, like he's still gonna have like a 70 to 75 route per drop back rate and they probably just cut him on like more condensed packages running some 12 and run plays and stuff. That's where they take him off the field. But when they're passing, I think he's gonna be on the field and I think he's gonna have a good day. Man, like this Pittsburgh secondary has been God awful. Like just they have been nothing close to what I think any of us thought they were going to be entering the season. Considering the talent, the names, everything. And looking at the coverage structure, Pittsburgh has been single high heavy for the last two seasons. We know we're going to get that this year. 67% of the defensive snaps against that last year, Addison tore it up, man. He had 2.2 yards per out run, 27% first read share. The matchup is good. I think even on limited snaps, like, even if he plays 70%, like, I'm pretty confident he's going to put up a strong stat line. Like I got him at wide receiver 34 this week.

[C]

No.

[A]

Did you guys think about Addison when ranking Carson Wentz this week? Like, does he actually go up a little bit for that or.

[B]

No, I didn't. Only because I don't think he's like Carson Wentz is going to throw a ton and this is also a good game to lean on Jordan Mason because the Steelers run defense has been pretty bad.

[C]

Right. That's kind of where I'm at with Wentz. I've got him QB27. I just think they're trying to hide him as much as possible. But you actually Debro did make a pretty good case for Addison. I might have to move him up a little. I've got him in the 50s.

[B]

Where do you have him at right now?

[C]

I'm like in the 50s with him, like 53 or 52 or something like that. But you know, I should probably have him in the 40s. Yeah.

[A]

All right, let's go to Commanders at Falcons. This is back to the normal Sunday early slate. Opposing RB1s against the Commanders have finished with under 4 yards per carry in each game this season. I believe it was like under 3 in the first game. Then the next two have been about 3.7 per game. I forgot to write it down, but I think I'm remembering that correctly. But it's all been under 4 yards per carry. It's not like we would consider sitting B John Robinson under any circumstance. But dbro, is this a defense that could give him some trouble? Maybe.

[B]

I'm not worried about it, to be honest, just because if you look at how good Bijan and looking at this run defense on paper, like if you're not a highly explosive runner, if you're one of these more volume compiling not can really do and create extra yards just by yourself then it's more concerning like Washington, like if you look at on paper the matchup they do have the seventh best stuff rate. So again going back to the archetypes and some of the running backs they face like the Giants don't have a good offensive line. The Packers Josh Jacobs is good at what he does but we're not saying like he's not out here ripping 50 and 60 yard runs and he's not known for his explosiveness. And Ashton Genti, again terrible offensive line. I think more of what we've seen so far from the commanders has been a function of a middle of the road run defense that is faced some pretty like two of these three teams they've played at putrid offensive lines or they're playing bad. This run defense also has allowed the 10th highest explosive run rate and their middle of the road as far as missed tackle rate like they're 17th. So you stack all that up against Bijan Robinson who I mean Atlanta quietly even despite the injuries, their ninth best in yards before contact per attempt was just probably more of a Bijan stat than it is for their O line because Bijan's freaking awesome. Like he's top 15 and every single per touch efficiency metric. The film test, the eye test also passes too. Like I'm not worried about Bijan. I think that this is quietly a pretty good spot for him.

[A]

What do you think fits?

[C]

DBRO said it pretty well. Gotta look at the opponents and it was the Giants and that was the Tyrone Tracy Giants, not the Cam Scatter Boo Giants. Fair the the Raiders last week who haven't been able to run against anyone. And Ashton Genty is one of only two running backs in the league averaging averaging negative yards before contact per carry. So really it was just Josh Jacobs as the only decent running back they faced. And you know he did just fine. 23 carries for 84 yards and a touchdown. So not a huge game but a solid game. I'm kind of with the bro like it's a pretty good maybe above average run defense but not a match up to fear and certainly not a matchup that's going to deter you from starting Bijan Robinson.

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[A]

All right, we're going to Saints at Bills as of when I put the sheet together, I didn't look to see if this moved at all. But when I put the sheet together a couple days ago, the bills were laying 15 and a half points on hard rock bet, which is the biggest line of the season so far. Will they cover that spread? And then also Fitz, I want you to pick one saint that you like this week and one bill you dislike to kind of go against the narrative of this game.

[C]

Ooh, interesting. All right. Yes, I do think the Bills cover in this one. They kind of sleepwalked through their Thursday night home game against the Dolphins and got a real scare in that game. So I think they'll be a little more dialed in against a second straight overmatched opponent. They've had extra rest time, extra prep time, and they haven't had to leave home. I think the Bills win big in this one. A saint I like. I'll. I'll keep putting Chris Olave in lineups where I have him like his his target counts so far, 13, 10, 14. He has 23 catches already. Although the weird thing is he has been between 54 and 57 yards in every game so far, so there's a sturdy floor, especially in ppr. If not exactly. You know, the ceiling does not look like the Sistine Chapel here with Spencer Rattler at quarterback. A fade for the Bills. I'll say Dalton Kincaid, like, he's tight end three in fantasy scoring right now because he's gotten in the into the end zone a couple of times, but he's only playing about half the Bills offensive snaps, and he hasn't had more than six targets in a game. So if there's anyone who disappoints, maybe it's him.

[A]

Fitz, would you rather start Kincaid or Kelsey this week?

[C]

Oh, man, that is. That is interesting.

[A]

I'm good.

[C]

Let me check the rankings real quick. I think I do have Kincaid ranked higher. Kelsey looks pretty dusty.

[A]

They're back to back in ecr and they're my two tight ends in a dynasty league that we're all in together.

[C]

Yeah, I've got King, tight end 8.

[B]

Yeah, you don't have Kincaid in that league. I have Kincaid in that.

[A]

The other dynasty league, though.

[B]

Okay. I was like, you can have Kincaid. I'll trade it to you.

[A]

No, I. You'll trade to me in the league where I already have Brock Bowers. No, I'm good. You need a backup. I have Kyle Pitts as my backup. Actually.

[C]

I've got Kincaid, tight end 8. Kelsey, tight end 10.

[A]

Okay, so, so close. But yeah, you do lean in that direction. Dbro, what do you think about this game? Do you think the Bills are going to cover this huge spread and then also pick a saint you like and a bill you dislike?

[B]

Man, you made me look this up. It's actually moved more in the direction of the Bills and Hard rock. Bet it's minus 16 and a half now. Like, oh, good Lord.

[A]

So it's kind of the other direction.

[B]

I. Okay, so I don't think the Bills cover on this. And only because. Not because I think that the Saints are going to put up much of a fight. I just think that they can get there in garbage time stuff and make up after the Bills kind of take their foot off the gas. Because, I mean, if this number was like 12 and a half or something like that, then fine, I think they cover.

[A]

It opened at 12 and a half, by the way.

[B]

Oh, okay, well, there you go. But 16 and a half, dude like.

[C]

That with that many. The back door is always open when there's a spread that.

[B]

Yes, exactly. And that's. And. But. But the other thing about it is, like, there are paths to the Saints moving the ball in this game. Like, their run defense is not stellar. So I think Khmer can get good usage on the ground. Chris Alabe is my Saint. For all the points that that Fitzy laid out here, he's getting a crap ton of volume. But the other thing I'll point out here too is that like the Buffalo Bills have faced the sixth fewest perimeter wide receiver targets, but they rank 15th in fantasy points per game and they've allowed the fifth highest PPR points per target to perimeter wide receivers. So pretty good spot for Chris Olave. So I feel really good about him as a wide receiver. Three this week. The bill that I'll fade because Fitzy, I think this is going to make things tingle. I think it's the Keon Coleman league, bro. So I think Keon's in for a big day. And Khalil Shakir is the guy that I'll fade here. Just his usage. The Saints have been more single high heavy, 58.4% of their snaps. His usage versus single high this year has been okay, but it's not great. If there's one thing the Saints have actually been pretty good at, it's defending the slot slot receivers against the Saints of the ninth view is PBR points per target and the fifth or the, excuse me, the fifth fewest fantasy points per game overall. So Shakira's my fade because I think it's gonna be a big Keon day.

[A]

On the, you know, big spread. Like also, would it totally surprise you if the Bills kind of played with their food a bit too? Like even. Not even just talking about a backdoor cover, but like I a 3.0team. Like, it almost feels like given their schedule, they've already locked up the one seed in the AFC going up against the team that a lot of people.

[B]

Thought was going to be Kellen Moore. Like, maybe. I'm not saying the Saints win this, but it's closer because of garbage time and everything.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Like I. Yeah. My point is that I don't think it's necessarily. If they cover the Saints cover that is, I don't think it's necessarily going to mean like, oh, they definitely. It's a backdoor cover. Like I could see it being closer than people expect for like, I don't think anybody will at no point. Well, I think the Bills are going to lose, but I could see it being, you know, under three scores for most of the afternoon and it feels like they're just not, not putting them away well.

[B]

And I also think it's in the Saints favor being a dome team traveling to to fricking Buffalo that this Isn't in like the snow and the tundra and stuff like that too?

[A]

Yeah, for sure. All right, let's go to Browns at Lions. Fitz, Sorry to be talking about the Browns facing an NFC north team. I know that's going to bring up some scars for you. The unstoppable force, right? The Lions offense versus the immovable object, the Browns defense, which has been really good this year. I mean, you think, like, not just statistically, like, oh, the Browns defense has been really good. Think about who they have faced. They have faced the Bengals when they still had Joe Burrow and it was a. A Bengals offense that had actually played in the preseason unlike previous years. So you kind of thought they would be, you know, more ready to go in week one. In week two, they faced the Ravens offense, which is like the second or I think it's actually still the first, you know, highest scoring offense in football. And then the packers, who. I know their, their defense better than their offense, but it's been a good offense this year. And the Browns defense has made all three of those. I know the Ravens scored over 40 points, but that was a lot of like, defense and special teams helping them get there. They have made every one of these offenses look. Look pretty bad relative to the rest of the season. But again, the Lions offense is really good. So, Fitz, I will start with you. Who wins the battle on that side of the ball? Lions offense or Browns defense?

[C]

Yeah, so I, I'm going to say the Lions maybe more through the air than on the ground. Like the ball. The Browns are only giving up 2.2 yards per carry to running backs. So far, they rank first in DVOA against the run. They're only 18th in DVOA against the pass. So I don't think we're getting another 150 yard rushing day from David Montgomery. Sorry, Worm, but we might get 150 yard day from either Amon Ross, St. Brown or Jameson Williams. But like this, not to diminish this Cleveland defense, it is really good. They totally stuffed the Green Bay offense into a locker last week and they just. The packers could not handle the Browns defensive front after the packers lost Zach Tom and Aaron Banks to injuries early in the game, two of their key starting linemen. After that, it was just kind of open season on Jordan Love and they couldn't get any movement in the running game.

[A]

I think the Lions are going to do enough, like, to win the game, obviously. And so like, by that measure, you could say that I'm picking the Lions offense, but like, specifically on this side of the ball. I actually think the Browns defense is going to have the better day than the Lions offense. I'm. I'm just so impressed by what I've seen from Cleveland outside of the ball. So, D bro, go ahead and break our tie here.

[B]

I'm going to go with the Lions offense. And I think this all comes down to one specific factor in this game. Do Christian Mahogany and Tate Ratledge hold up? If they hold up against this defensive line, then the Lions can cook here, really. And this all comes down to the trenches. And can the Browns have a good day? It is possible. If their D line can get home, they can bring pressure because they are seventh best in pressure. And we know Jared Goff has a problem with that. That's what happened with the packers game. Tate Routledge and Mahogany were overmatched, but I think this offensive line is kind of not finding its stride. But I think they're playing better. Both those guards have played better over the last two weeks. I think that continues this week. And if that happens, man, I just. They might be without Denzel Ward. Their cornerbacks in the back end are not equipped to deal with this passing attack like Cleveland has quietly been as good as their defensive line has been and they are carrying the day. Their. Their run defense is top five in the NFL. Again, I said they have the seventh best pressure rate. If those things, like if Detroit Lions just say, look like, like if we got enough time with Jared Goff, whether it's short area targets or JMO just burning these corners like they can put up some points, they just have to keep Jared Goff clean. And if they can do that, which I think I lean in the direction that they can, and I know I'm stepping out on a limb because we've already seen the Lions offensive line fold under a good D line already previously. But if they can, Cleveland's given up the fifth, fifth most passing touchdowns, the eighth highest pass rating, and they're middle of road in success rate. And they're quietly middle of the road in against deep passing. It just comes down to can their pass rush and their D line win. If not, it's a big day for jmo. It's a big day for Jared Goff and Amon Ross saying Brown is going to cook. Miles Harden, who right now is giving up a 75% catch rate and a 130 pass rating in his coverage, he doesn't have a chance against Amon Ra.

[A]

I. I am not as optimistic about the Lions line as you are. Like, like in Terms of them playing better last couple weeks. I mean like when we three they are facing the Ravens without Namdi Madabuike, without Kyle Van Noy with the banged up Travis Jones. Like that's not a good defensive lines. It's the weakest unit on the Ravens as entire team really. So I don't think it was like impressive of the Lions offensive line to do what they did and you know, the week before against the Bears, like, like the Browns are closer to the packers in that regard than they are the other two opponents they face. So I'm not ready to say like that this offensive line is ready for a matchup like this. I do think they will get kind of bullied by the, the Browns defensive line and if they're shutting down the run and don't have that threat with Montgomery and Gibbs, that, that's kind of why I lean towards. Again, I do not think the Browns are going to win this game. I, I am not saying that because I think the Lions defense will do very, very well against the Browns offense like every defense does against the Browns offense. But I do, I do think we will come away saying like even if the Lions score, score some points because they're going to just over the course of a long game, I think we'll come away saying the Browns defense won the battle even if they lost the game. If that makes sense.

[C]

The, the Browns defense, man, like if they, I mean they had such a nice draft, getting the extra first round pick for next year, getting Mason Taylor who looks like a stud already. Carson Schlesinger is like already one of the like an above average NFL linebacker from the jump. Like he is really good. Grant Del Pitt is one of the better safeties in the league. Like they have a really tough defense if they can just like finally figure it out at quarterback and they do have some ammo in the draft next year, like the Browns might not be. And I, I don't want to give the Browns fans false hope because I know they've had plenty of that over the years. But like they could, they could be competitive in a hurry.

[A]

I want to save you here, Fitz, from the comments. You said Mason Taylor. It's Mason Graham.

[C]

Oh, did I say. Oh, sorry about that.

[A]

Obviously you know that. But just. Yes, but just so the commenters don't.

[B]

Jump on you, also shout out to Malik Collins. He's arguably playing some of the best football his career.

[C]

Right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's been. I mean defense is a lot about effort. So I wonder if like later in the year. If like the offense has been just terrible all season and that's, you know.

[B]

That'S what I worry about.

[A]

It'll get worse.

[B]

Not gonna play complimentary football. Yeah.

[A]

But right now, yeah, it's early enough that they're still pretty scary. Very, very scary actually. Let Autopilot manage your fantasy football lineup automatically so you never have to worry about last minute changes. Auto swap inactive players and ensure your lineup is always optimized even when you can't be online. Take control with the flexibility to approve lineup changes via email or let Autopilot handle everything. Stay ahead with my playbook. Autopilot available now for Fantasy Pros Premium [e-mail] MyPlayBook or on the Fantasy Pros app. Try Premium for free right now by claiming your three day trial of FantasyPros [e-mail] premium all right guys. Titans at Texans Gross key question here. Houston is the lowest scoring team in football this season. Tennessee is also bottom five. The total on this game is down at 38 and a half. Actually I want to see if it's still there because that's where it was again a couple of days ago. I wonder if that like the like Bill Saints has moved at all. It is. Oh, it's moved up. It's now at 39 on on hard Rock. So the total this game is now at 39 on hard rock. Bet. What is the pat this game going over basically. What is the path to these offenses showing us anything in this game?

[B]

D bro, this is the lowest total of the week. Am I, am I right with that?

[A]

Yes, I believe, I believe it's the second lowest total of the season behind Steelers jets in week one which obviously did go over.

[B]

Yeah, Minnesota and Pittsburgh's close but they're not in the 30s. This is the only one in the 30s. The, the path for this going over man, really comes down to two things for me. Houston's offense has to like carry the day here. Tennessee's not going to put up a ton of points regardless of how you look at this. So Houston has to like somehow find a way. C.J. stroud's got to play better. It really I, I think not only Stroud but Nico has to have a big day and he can do that versus this Tennessee past defense like they're not very good man. Like a lot of too high. Nico's not been great against it this year. I think it's more of a Stroud result than it is Nico. But. But Luxurious needs not playing great although he's Talking a little bit of smack to Nico Collins. Good luck. Nico's gonna drop 150 on you this week. Snead. Not. Not smart. You're just. You're not that dude anymore at this part of your career. To sit here and be talking that crap to one of the best wide receivers in the league. Godspeed. But the other thing I'll bring up here is that for Houston to sit here and put up the points to push this to the over because I just don't think the Tennessee Titans have the capability with their. With their offense. It helps them if Derek Stingley misses this game. But still, like Calvin Ridley ain't carrying no passing attack in the year 2025. It's just not happening, dude. I think this also has to be a good day for the Houston rushing attack, which they can get there. Tennessee cannot stop the run like they're fourth worst. An explosive run rate and rushing yards per game. I'm not telling you that Nick Chubb looks like yesterday or Nick Chubb, but against this run defense, he might surprise some people.

[A]

What do you think, Fitz? What's the path to the over here?

[C]

Oh, man. Trying to paint a picture of an interesting, fun Texans Titans game. That's a tall order, Worm, but. Well, I mean, you could say that the Texans haven't been especially good against the run. Like their run defense is 28th in DVOA. They've given up four rushing touchdowns and the Texans are also 26th in pressure rate, which is pretty disappointing for a team with Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter. Like, I don't get that. But if the Titans can run the ball effectively, keep like down in distance manageable and keep the Houston pass rush from getting to Cam Ward, who's been smacked around in the first three weeks, I'm worried the kid isn't going to survive the season. But if that happens, maybe the Tennessee offense can be functional, you know, if they keep those guys from getting award. And then on the other side of the ball, the Titans defense is 29th in DVOA. Like 31st in DVOA against the run. So yes, the Houston offensive line is just garbage. But if it can be just decent this week, like you can certainly move the ball and score points on the Titans.

[A]

D. Yeah, I don't really want to talk anymore about this game. Cause it's okay.

[C]

It's agreed.

[B]

Gross, dude. So gross.

[A]

All right, let's go to Panthers at Patriots. After all the fumbles from the New England backfield last week, is this the game? Trayon Henderson finally gets unleashed man, you.

[C]

Would hope so if you are a Travian Henderson investor. Like it had to be really frustrating for the Henderson investors that after Ramon Ray Stevenson coughed up his second fumble last week, Antonio Gibson was in on the next series, got a carry on first down, got another carry on second down, and then fumbled the ball away himself. So that was early third quarter. The good thing was after that Gibson fumble from that point on, Henderson was the only New England running back who touched the ball the rest of the game. Like Henderson, his Snapchairs were 35% in week one, 31.7% in week two, up to 45.9% last week with the spike in usage in the second half. So maybe his Snapshare hits 50% for the first time this week. Like all we ask, please Trayvon Henderson, just hold onto the ball.

[A]

Yeah, and he, he's not somebody who fumbled, you know, in college or anything.

[C]

So not an issue. I mean anyone can cough it up but like it, it hasn't been a problem for him. It's clearly been a problem for Ramon Ray and Gibson over their careers.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. D, what do you think? Is this the game?

[B]

If this is in the game? I don't know what the game is going to be, man. I mean, to be honest, like this is the perfect matchup. This is the one that you unleash him. But both the other running backs have fumbled and to Fitz's point, after the Ramandre put the ball on the ground in the third quarter, Henderson played 72% of the snaps after that for the rest of the game he had a 63 route share. I think this is the week that they unleashed Trayvon Henderson. The Panthers just, they're just giving up everything on the ground, man. Like their, their past defense has been really good, but their run defense has been God awful. Still, I was hoping it was going to be better with some of the additions they made, Derek Brown coming back, but it has not worked out. It has not been the case. And if there was ever a game to get Trayvon Henderson going, it is this one against a Carolina run defense that's given up the eighth most rushing yards and the third highest yards after contact per attempt. When. And I guess the only thing my takeaway with Travion right now is I'm kind of surprised. And I know it's only 19 carries. I, I get that guys, I'm kind of surprised like how little he's making guys miss. Like he has only a 5% missed tackle rate. So again, I think this is more Small sample because the guy is explosive. We saw that multiple years in college. I don't think they just lost all of that, but it is a little bit eyebrow raising. Eyebrow raising to this point that, that he's done or hasn't done what he hasn't done with the work that he's been given.

[A]

Where. Where is he ranked for you, D, bro?

[B]

Oh, I think I got him inside my top 24 running backs right now.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Yeah, I've got him at RB23. Like, I, I do think that this is the game where he gets unleashed. I think he's probably gonna play at least 50 of the snaps. And again, he hasn't looked like great on a per touch basis to this point.

[C]

This.

[B]

This is the matchup. This, this is the matchup. Like we all saw, like what Travis ETN did a week one and what he hasn't done since week one. Like, this is it, dude.

[A]

Fitz, did you say where you have him ranked?

[C]

31 for Henderson, 33 for Ramondre. I'm just not totally convinced that they do the right thing and play Henderson more.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Brable doesn't seem like the. The head coach that's going to sit here and force that Fitzy like the old school guys, like, nah, you're in the Brable doghouse, baby.

[A]

Like we say he was like, Ray needs to figure this out because we need him to, you know, be a real significant part of this team. Like, he was talking like he wants him to keep getting chances and figure it out. I don't know if that's going to play out.

[B]

Doghouse is deep and ugly, man.

[C]

I know. If only. If only. Every coach, like, if only variable was as quick to throw Ramandre and fumble jail as like Ron Rivera used to be to throw Gibson into fumble jail.

[B]

Oh, jeez, man.

[A]

Yeah. If you want a chance to win a signed Jamar Chase Bengals jersey for free courtesy of our friends@pristine auction.com, all you need to do is head to fantasypros.com contest, complete the form and either download the Fantasy Fantasy Pros app, leave a review for the podcast or follow us on X Instagram or tick tock at Fantasy Pros. The more actions you complete, the more entries you receive. We will be announcing a winner right here on the podcast. If you're watching on YouTube, be sure to subscribe and turn on those notifications so you can be alerted when new episodes are up and to claim your prize. Guys, how about Chargers at Giants Cam Scatter Boo is taking over the Giants backfield fits, but The Chargers defense is no joke. Where are you ranking him this week? Expert consensus ranking has him at RB23. That's in half PPR scoring. Let me just make sure that I didn't update RB22 now. So moved up to a spot.

[C]

Yeah. So the Chiefs run defense, no joke either. And scatter boo, 10 carries for 60 yards and a touchdown on the ground last year. And in addition to 6 yards per carry against that very good Chiefs run defense, Skettaboo's work in the passing game was even more exciting. I think like six catches, 61 yards on eight targets. This guy is so much fun. I wasn't sure how well Cam Scatter Boo's game was going to translate to the NFL. Like the physical tackle breaker. Going against a different breed of defenders and tacklers, it looks like it's going to translate very well. Thank you. You know, Cam Scatter Boo is just so hard to bring down. I've got him RB14 this week. No, Tyrone Tracy for the Giants. He dislocated his shoulder last week. The Giants backfield now belongs to Cam Scatter Boo. And you would imagine the Giants are going to want to lean on him pretty heavily this week with rookie QB Jackson Dart making his first NFL start against this good Chargers defense.

[A]

D, bro, you seemed to be in agreement here.

[B]

Dude, I was hoping Fitzy wasn't gonna come here and throw cold water on this, man. I'm, I'm so in. I've got Cam scatter boo at RB16. I think he's gonna crush this week. And I think it's, it's gone under the radar. You can run the ball against the freaking Chargers. This defense has given up the seventh highest explosive run rate and the highest missed tackle rate. Well, oh, guess what? On that cherry on top of all of that, they got the third lowest stuff rate and they get Cam Scatterable this week. Dad. Dude, we're gonna get some really good gifts and stuff out of Cam Scatter Boo and some good moments. I think he's gonna have a really good game, man. Strong RB2. I'm all in for it. And I think that I, I, I had to include him because he was a little bit, he. I think it was like RB25 when we did the Primer video, which should be live on YouTube. At the time you're watching this, I had to include him because I felt like with people with the roster composition, Cam Scatter Boo is a player you probably drafted as like an RB3, RB4, and you're like, at this point it's Jackson Dart's first game and the defense and you're so worried and everybody's like, I don't know if I should play him or not. You need to play Cam Scatter Boo this week. He's an RB2. Get him into your flex. He's probably a flex on most different rosters. Unless you just lost like, like James Conner, other injuries, Aaron Jones. You should be licking your chops to play Cam Scatter Boo this week.

[C]

Isn't the NFL so much more fun where there's a running back like Mike Alstott or you know, sorry, date you, but John Riggins. Yeah, it's just so fun. Possible to tackle and just bounces defenders off them like ping pong balls. Like Scatter Boo is. Is just going to be a joy to watch. Man, I can't wait to. To enjoy his career.

[A]

I think it's a good point by you. DBRO on like he was not drafted to be a starter. So unless you've had injuries, like you are going to have to choose to play him ahead of somebody that you had drafted ahead of him and who maybe even has played okay this season for you.

[B]

Like I got a great one. I got. I know you're searching for a name. Worm.

[A]

Yeah, go ahead.

[B]

Cam Scatter or Chase Brown. Come on. You know we all want to say Cam's cataboo.

[A]

Like yeah, ironically Chase Brown is actually ranked back to back with him in ecr. I feel like it has Tony Pollard.

[B]

Like I'm still playing Cam Scatter Boot.

[A]

Like yeah, I was gonna say Javante or Scatter Boo.

[B]

David Montgomery. Yeah, Cam just exactly.

[A]

Yeah, I, I will be really excited to. Let's get this deeper and then we'll move off at this point. Where is he rest of season for you?

[B]

I. I think he's a comfortable RB2, high end RB2. I'm looking at my rest of season ranks and I probably got him too low in there, but RB20, I've got him as my rest of season ranks.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

He's not giving. If he stays healthy, he's not giving this job back to Tyrone Tracy. I want to be very clear about that. I said that in the off season. Brian Daboll has a history of utilizing one back again. Pop quiz time, boys. Who was the OC with Peyton Hillis's monster season? It was Brian freaking Day Ball. Like this archetype of volume compiling back. He likes this archetype of back. It was Devin Singletary. It was Zach Moss, but Zach Moss wasn't good enough in Buffalo to take the job. So he's going to take this job and health permitted because of the. I understand his play style and as the touches kind of like ramp up and the hits ramp up, there are worries there for me. But if he stays healthy, he's not letting go of this job. He's not.

[A]

Let's go to Eagles at Buccaneers. This is the last game in the early slate fits. Was the second half against the Rams an outlier for the Eagles offense or did they unlock something in their passing game for moving forward?

[C]

I'd like to think they unlocked something and if their passing game was locked, it was pretty much self locking. Like they just had not been throwing downfield very much. But then you know, they fell behind against the Rams and really opened up the offense in the second half and they look great. Like Jalen Hurts was throwing darts, AJ Brown was making plays. Hopefully we get more of that this week.

[A]

Deborah, what do you think?

[B]

Yeah, I think this is a case. The Eagles felt like the person that locked their keys in the car. You can't drive anywhere when you don't have your key freaking keys, man. And the keys to this offense and no shade against Saquon Barkley, but should be the passing attack and stuff, man. Like Saquon's per touch efficiency has not been great this year. I mean that has to get noted here. And you have two of the best wide receivers, arguably the best wide receiver tandem in the entire freaking NFL. And I think what, what really is going to kind of like push the Eagles in this direction this week especially is they're against another pass funnel defense. Like the Buccaneers are an elite run defense. They're top 12 and stuff rate, lowest missed tackle rate and yards before contact per attack attempt. So looking at just this matchup, yes, the Eagles should lean into their passing attack. Can I tell you definitively that they're not going to be hard headed and try to run the ball in the first quarter and then find out oh this is probably a really stupid idea and then change course possibly that feels.

[A]

Maybe more likely that they pivot partway through the game.

[B]

I hope they don't wait until the freaking fourth quarter this time and say, oh hey guess what, we should probably do this thing, this other thing that we're really good at.

[C]

By the way, the Rams would like a word about that best wide receiver tandem thing.

[B]

Oh well, yes, you're right. Good. Yeah, good shout out. Yeah.

[A]

I want to ask on the other side of this game, what are expectations for a Mecca ibuca with Mike Evans out. Debra.

[B]

He's gonna get a crap ton of volume. Like dude, last week he had almost a 28 target share and that was one of the things that I was not that I was taught saying Mecca's early season production was fraudulent, but it was very much carried by touchdowns. Like he was living in that like 18 to 19 target share range. It wasn't as high as I think like people would believe. Just saying looking at the fantasy production. So last week seeing him garner a wide receiver one type of workload where he had a 27.5 target share, he had a 35 first read share, those were really good things because you're either one of the wide receivers that is the archetype of player that can command volume and earn volume at that type of clip or you're not and it's that freaking easy. So like we get into this like realm of like projecting guys to earn better target shares than maybe their archetype or their talent allows them to do. That was really encouraging to see from a Mecca. I'm worried about him this week because I'm worried about do they. Do the Eagles put Quinion Mitchell on him because Quinion has followed guys like he followed Adams last week on almost 80 of his routes. If that happens, I'm worried about a Mecca's outlook, but I think the volume is definitely going to be there because Baker doesn't have a whole lot of other options.

[A]

Yeah, Fitz Dibro kind of hit on the follow up. I was going to ask which is the volume is clearly going to be higher. At least we expect. But so will the defensive attention.

[C]

That's exactly it. The, the, the push pull on that. And Igbuka was just sort of maximizing a modest target share early on then last year or last week I should say spike in. In target share. And you figure he's going to see more targets this week with no Evans. But yeah, maybe he gets locked up by Quinon Mitchell. So yeah, I've got him ranked like wide receiver 16. What about you D?

[B]

Bro, I've got him. I was actually pulling that up. One of my worries here not to side I've got a wide receiver 18 just because of the volume. One of my worries and this is a quiet worry. We have to see if this is going to pan out. I don't know if Josh Grizzard is any good man. And, and just trying to read the small tea leaves of stuff like the things that we saw Liam Cohen adjust and do different like when the entire offense got like just cratered to nothing and Kate Otten is put into a power slot role and he has a few monster games, which scared me about the way that Grizzer deployed this offense in previous games. Like just this is a perfect parallel to this, the week against the Texans when Mike Evans is getting shadowed by Derek Stingley. And the way that you, you change, you flip this match up and you put it back in your favor is you move Mike Evans, put him in the freaking slot. And Derek Stingley is not following him to the slot. Like that's just what it's a cheat code. He didn't do it. He just put Mike Evans out there on the boundary and said sure, just go win. It's cool, go win. If he does that this week versus a Mecca. But the Bucks are going to struggle as a passing attack because they don't have a counter punch. So I'm worried about is Grizzard not a great oc and did the Liam Cohen magic kind of like leave out of the room? Because little things like that where you make it easier for your offense and you exploit different matchups. Those are the things you want to press the easy button for your quarterback in your offense. I don't know if dude is good enough to do that.

[A]

Let's go to the late afternoon slate Sunday Colts at Rams, which by the way, I think is the highest total of the week at 49 and a half on Hard Rock. Bet. I actually really like the under on that, truthfully. But there are a couple of studs in this game that we are definitely very happy to be starting in our fantasy lineups. I want to ask you guys about two of them. Who finishes better at their position this week? Jonathan Taylor or Puka Nakua? And then also who finishes better at their position this season? If we guaranteed health for these guys. If you look at the consensus rankings on the Flex rankings because obviously they're different positions. Jonathan Taylor is third overall. Pukinakua is fourth overall. Taylor of course is behind a couple of running backs in the consensus rankings. Puka is behind nobody at wide receiver. But how do you guys see this playing out? Who's better this week and for the season? Debra, I'll start with you. Jonathan Taylor or Puka Nukua?

[B]

This is not my bias showing. I promise it's not. Guys, I'm so sure this is Puka. This is Puka now and this is Puka resta season Pukas. I mean dude, he hasn't scored any receiving touchdowns. I know he got one in the ground. He scored zero Receiving touchdowns and the dude is the runaway wide receiver. One in fantasy points per game right now with zero receiving touchdowns. He's going. He's scoring 24.5 fantasy points per game game with one freaking touchdown on the year. One total.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

And he's not slowing down this week where this is a week where I'm not saying JT slows down but I, I think like tempering expectations because the Rams do have a really good run defense. Like they're allowed the six lowest explosive run rate, seventh lowest missed tackle rate. So they are a good run defense. So I think Jonathan Taylor has a quiet, not a quiet week. Like he's still going to get 20 to 25 opportunities. He's still probably going to score touchdowns. So like I'm just saying this is not a Smash Taylor type of matchup. Whereas dude, Puka Nakua Colts run single high at 55% of their defensive snaps. Puka's usage has been just. Puka's usage has been ridiculous the whole entire season. But versus single high dude, he's got a 46.3% target share. He's got 5.6 yards per route run. These are video game type of metrics. These are ridiculous numbers. Like this is Madden on easy mode type of numbers. So Puka is my answer for both of these fits.

[C]

I'll say Puka on both counts too. Like he is a reception machine. Like 29 catches leading the league. Like remember that Cooper cup season in 2021?

[B]

I was going to bring that up.

[C]

Yeah. It was 145 catches that year and almost 2,000 receiving yards for Cooper Cup. Like if Puka stays healthy all year he could put up those types of numbers.

[B]

Fitzy, to your point, he's on pace right now for 198 targets, 164 receptions, almost 1900 receiving arts 1887. That's just stupid, man.

[C]

You know. Do you know off the top of your head who's second in the NFL in receptions right now?

[B]

Oh good lord. I don't.

[C]

It's Jake Ferguson.

[B]

What two only?

[C]

Jake Ferguson only has two fewer catches than Puka Nukua. Jake Ferguson is on pace for 153 catches.

[B]

Right? That is a sultry stat. That's very well done. That's, that's. That's nice.

[A]

It's not on the same level as Puka but I do think it is worth like giving some praise to Jonathan Taylor also who is having a ridiculous 110, you know, rushing yards per game, averaging a touchdown per game. Although obviously on the ground the those all came in the same matchup pace.

[B]

Right now like I'm asking, I'm about to look this up. Is he.

[A]

I can't do that math that quickly. He has 338 rushing yards through three games here. So I'm looking it up whatever that.

[B]

I'm letting Pro Football Reference do the hardware for me.

[C]

You know a couple years ago whenever.

[B]

191519 and he has.

[A]

He has. He has finished the last each of the last two weeks he's been RB1 on the week.

[C]

A couple years ago before the the injury everyone was saying like Nick Chubb was the best pure runner in the league even if he wasn't necessarily putting up the best numbers. I think Jonathan Taylor gets that title now. He is the best peer runner in the league.

[A]

Yeah I mean he, he does looks really good.

[C]

I mean I think just more versatility, more explosion I think than like Derrick Henry. Like and Henry's great and like I just think he's got a little more. I think he's better inside than B.

[B]

John Robinson is My takeaway with JT2 is the injuries. I was lower on him and I'll own that than consensus like I did not good things to say because of Daniel Jones the target chair everything like that the injuries really hurt him last year and that's hard. That's a hard thing to quantify and know because we don't. We're not in the room and we don't know but like looking at the per rush metrics last year were horrible for jt. He's bounced back like he's all the way back to like that though. Like what Fitzy was talking about being like in the conversation or leading the pack for the best pure rusher in the NFL right now. Like the injuries were really, really bothersome for him last year.

[A]

It's funny I ranked him ahead of consens like for draft season and and yet I barely drafted him anywhere because I kept just going. I I liked him at cost but I just kept liking other players. There was always one player that fell to me that I liked a little bit better, usually at a different position. You know I like I like the receiver there or felt like it was a league. I wanted to take a swing on Bowers or something like that. So I, I didn't really.

[B]

You didn't know Daniel Jones is going to be this year. Sam Darnold wor you didn't know that? I mean that's what I you know we get in the comments These days it's like, come on, guys, guys, Like, I'm like, dude, it's Daniel.

[A]

If you told me the entire league stayed healthy this year, like, I, I don't think this is. I think Jonathan Taylor finishes his RB1 this year, like, assuming health. I, I, I legitimately think very highly of him, but Puka's been awesome also, so that's why I put them together. Let's go to the next game here. Jaguars at 49ers. Ricky Piersol is ranked three spots higher than Brian Thomas Jr. In this game. Game in the rest. Excuse me, not rest season in the expert consensus rankings for this week, but the rest of season rankings have Thomas eight spots ahead of Piersol. Do both of those sound right to you? So again, I'll read that again because I kind of stumbled over that. Piersol is three spots higher for this week in the consensus rankings, but Thomas is eight spots higher for rest of season in the consensus rankings. Fitz, do those both sound right to you or would you change either?

[C]

Yeah, no, I understand that disparity, and I have that same type of disparity in my own rankings for Ricky Piersoll and Brian Thomas Jr. For week four and the rest of the season. Part of the reason I have Pearsall ranked wide receiver 12 this week is because George Kittle isn't playing and Juwan Jennings might not play, but those guys are both going to be playing soon, and then I might not have Pearsall ranked in the top 20 or top 25. Brian Thomas Jr. Things are just so bad right now. It seems like he has the yips. He's caught seven out of 25 targets, a 28% catch rate. It's really hard to confidently endorse him this week when things are so bad, but we've seen how good this guy can be. Like, I don't think it's crazy to think BTJ can get the train back on the tracks at some point and be something closer to the Brian Thomas Jr. We saw last year.

[A]

What do you think, Dbro?

[B]

I think Pierce all should be ahead of him in both of them. I, I worry about George Kittle coming back. I'm not that worried about Brandon Iuk. We saw the statement saying that he's Nowhere close to 100% or seeing the field. Juan Jennings. I can't at this point of the season. He's already, like, really, really banged up. Is he gonna make it through the season? I don't know. So this could be legit. The CMC Piersol and George Kittle show And if that's the case, he's got enough volume, man. And Ricky P. Has been freaking fantastic. Like we all, like everybody's like, oh, can he really step forward and be the guy? Can he be the guy that, you know, first round wide receiver? And with the final two games of last year real, when the 49ers put it at his feet and said, can you step up and be. Be the number one guy we needed you to be? And he's wide receiver 16. He's got a 21 target share. He's averaging 93.7 receiving yards, he's got 2.6 yards per route run and he's commanding almost a 28 first reach here outside of the target share. The rest of those are wide receiver one numbers. So I don't have a lot of questions about Ricky P. I got tons of questions about Brian Thomas Jr. Whether it's Liam Cohen, that offense, Trevor Lawrence, Brian Thomas Jr. Himself, and whether this is his play or in his head or the wrist injury because again, we don't know the severity of that. They could say he's a full practice and that doesn't mean anything, man. Like these guys practice reports. And I'm not saying I'm not conspiracy theory like, but I've been around fantasy and the NFL long enough that we see every single year reports documentaries, Netflix specials come out and it's like, like, oh, this dude was way more hurt than we thought. Or he was a, a full time practice participant and but now we have video stuff on the Netflix documentary saying they're like, bro, I couldn't even make a fist. I couldn't even pick up like a soda to drink with that arm. Like if, if ever would y' all be this surprised if this week's game we get one of those sideline clips like everybody was doing with Joe Burrow before. Like, Look, Brian Thomas Jr. Is not grabbing his water bottle with, with that hand. Oh, like I'm not gonna be shocked. So I, I think it's just, I'm going with talent and I'm going with the healthy guy and who's producing Ricky Piersol.

[A]

Let's go to Ravens at Chiefs. The Ravens defense has been really bad in their two games against non Brown's offenses and their entire starting defensive line is now injured. Although Travis Jones did return to practice on Thursday, it was in a limited capacity, obviously. Namdi Matabuque is, is still not going to be playing this week. We don't know if and when he'll even be back with his next stuff. And of course, Kyle Van Noy still not practice. You know, it's, it's very bad.

[B]

It sounds so sad.

[C]

I know. Listen to the phrasing of this question. Oh my goodness, me and Footsie are.

[B]

Grinning because you sound so painful laying all this. I know you were like, the Ravens defense is playing so bad. Like I was like, oh, this dude's going through it. Like, no, no.

[A]

I mean, obviously it has been toug. I, I. You might remember guys that I did kind of pretty I was when I was pushing back on.

[B]

Okay, give you an audible hug here.

[A]

But no, no, what I'm saying is like I was, I kind of predicted that the run defense was going to be a problem this year and it's been much worse than I expected. Of course I didn't expect this level, but that was my concern for the team going into the season. So it's not really even that surprising, you know, to me and crushing. It's just, it's kind of what I expected just on a more extreme version of it. And of course the injury. What I really feel bad about and actually like kind of crestfallen for is is Matt we Cake, who's a great player and a seemingly great person who has possibly not going to play again type of injury. Like, it's, it's really unknown right now what's going on with his neck injury, but it's just very scary. But setting all that aside, the reason I bring this up is to say Isaiah Pacheco has also been super bad, but he now gets to go up against this really beaten up and you know, no bad and no depth defensive line. So I'm wondering what kind of game you guys are expecting from Pacheco considering his poor start to the season, but that this is actually a very good matchup. And even if the Chiefs end up having to. If the Ravens offense, you know, plays really well even in a tough matchup against the Chiefs defense. Well, maybe not that tough, but you know, a matchup that's given them, you know, problems in the past. The Chiefs will have to throw a lot. So you would think, well, maybe Pacheco doesn't do that well, but I think there will be scoring opportunity plus like I said, the beat up defensive line. So Fitz, I'll start with you on this one. What kind of game are you expecting from Pacheco given all that?

[C]

Even if he runs more effectively than he has in his first three games and he's only averaging 3.7 yards per carry with his longest run of the season going for just 10 yards. I don't know if he gets enough work to really move the needle in fantasy like Pacheco. Just the snap shares are around 50%. He hasn't had more than 10 carries in a game and he's only had six targets all season with just missed three in the last two weeks. So I don't really see a big game for him. And if he does go for a hundred yards rushing against your Ravens worm, then it's safe to totally abandon hope.

[A]

Yeah. If you can't take advantage of this matchup, I think that's a. That's a fair point. Dbro, what do you think I said?

[B]

Exactly what I said in the primer. I'll say again here. Baltimore is a terrible run defense. If you're willing to flex Pacheco again at this point, Godspeed. Like, he's not playing well. He's on an offense that has had. If he can't get it done through against the Giants, he's not going to get it done.

[A]

I mean, if you're not. If. Well, let me ask you this, D. Bro, I started.

[B]

They don't want to run the ball either. They don't even want to run the ball.

[A]

If you're not starting him in this matchup, shouldn't you just drop him? Why is he even on your team?

[B]

Yeah, like I. Dude, I don't disagree at all. Like, he's on it. He's not playing effectively on a per touch basis. He's in an offense that doesn't want to freaking run the ball. So even if you want to talk about volume, he's not going to get there. The Chiefs has already told you that they don't want to do that. They're not going to feature him. If anything, I'll take a left field shot on freaking Burchard Smith catching a wheel route in this game than I will on freaking flexing Isaiah freaking Pacheco. And to that point, the Ravens have been bad versus receiving backs over the last two years. So I would rather bet on that than anything with Pacheco. No, just I'm not, man. Like it all lines up that he's not getting usage. The the team doesn't want to want to run the freaking ball. He's not good at running the ball. Tell me, would y' all be surprised or if you're not betting this. But who leads them in carries this week? Week Isaiah Pacheco or Cream Hunt.

[C]

Yeah, Hunt.

[B]

Probably hunt.

[C]

Maybe 50. 50.

[A]

By the way, I don't have a good feel on the Total for this game, it's at 49. I, I would bet a lot of money on Chiefs plus two and a half. I, I think that line is a mistake. The Ravens have beaten the Chiefs in this era of Lamar and Mahomes.

[B]

Oh, I think the Ravens are gonna hand it to him, man.

[A]

They've only beaten them one once ever. They, they, they get out of their themselves when they face Kansas City. It's in Kansas City. They just they, they freak them. Even when they are the better team, they get in their own heads and they always, they get away from who they are. They always look bad against Steve Spagnolo. Like I, I don't understand why the Chiefs are dogs. And also the, the ref in this game, Warren Sharp was just tweeting this out. I forget the ref's name but he I just saw this earlier this morning. That lifetime in games that the Ravens have played with this ref, they're Owen 3 and the Chiefs lifetimes in game with this ref are 6, 0. So like it just is very much going against the Ravens. Even setting aside the fact that they're always bad against the Chiefs.

[B]

Like I know we're gonna get one of those moments where Mahomes like does that crap where he runs along the sideline and then he like tries to fall over and pretend like somebody tried to like take his head off whenever they touched his thigh or something.

[A]

I've tell like obviously I would love to be wrong, but I really do not think the Ravens are winning this game. I, I will be very shocked honestly. I, I, I think Chiefs plus two and a half is a smash but I would love to be wrong. So we'll see what happens.

[B]

I, I, I, I will be the Ravens fan for this. I think they win. I think the Chiefs just don't have the firepower. Man.

[A]

I, I appreciate you taking up the the torch for me here. Bears at Raiders. Caleb Williams and the Bears are coming off their best game of the season. But it did come again against the Talis defense that makes everybody look like they have the best game of their season. How will Chicago follow it up against the Raiders?

[B]

D bro, I think well and I think this Raiders defense is slowly evolving into the Raiders defense that thought I thought we were going to get this year and they're not very good. Their secondary is not very good. Like they're going to the 7th highest yards per attempt, 10th highest passer rating and 10th most passing yards per game. I think it's another opportunity for Roma Dunes A to just eat man. Lots of single high coverage. He's got a 29.6 target share. I think Caleb's gonna feature him and they're. I think Caleb's gonna have another good day.

[A]

By the way, just because I only just mentioned this and this came out a minute ago on Twitter. Kyle Van Noy was back at practice for the Ravens, for whatever that's worth.

[B]

Let's go. Let's go.

[A]

All right. So. All right. Ravens minus two and a half. Go for it.

[B]

No, it's your first course, people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Love to see it. Yeah.

[A]

Calvinoi moves the line five point. Fitz, what do you think on Bears Raiders?

[C]

Well, The Raiders are 26th in DVOA against the pass. They're 21st in pressure rate. So Caleb kind of goes from one soft matchup against Dallas into another against Las Vegas. He's QB3 in fantasy scoring, sixth in passer rating among quarterbacks with more than one starts. Tied for second in touchdown passes, 11th in passing yardage. It's been pretty good. And he's adding rushing value too with 97 rushing yards and a touchdown. Looks like a pretty good spot for him. And you know, maybe this Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams marriage is going to work after all.

[A]

I Debra, have you started to. I'm guessing the answer to this is no, but do you feel any differently about like Caleb's long term outlook after the start of this season or No.

[B]

I, I don't want to sound like just the Caleb hater constantly. I, I do think it has to get pointed out that like I think it was three or all of it. All of his passing touchdowns were against terrible blown assignments by Dallas. So it, I don't think we've seen a big enough sample, especially him versus like actually good defenses. I think he's gotten a lot of cupcake matchups. He's going to get another one this week. Not saying that he won't won't but I want to see Caleb perform better when things are not going his way in the sense of when a team can pressure you and it's against a good like not like a freaking Minnesota Vikings but like a top 7 to 10 defense that can get after him. That's, that's the litmus test of like playing on schedule and back foot rip it and playing better against pressure instead of trying to hero ball and falling back into the thing things. That's what I want to see for Caleb Williams. He does that. I'm more in the in the camp of believing than I am still skeptical.

[A]

Sunday Night Football packers at Cowboys what is the Cowboys passing game going to look like against what is a great defense and also that they are in fact without CD Lamb. Fitz, I'll start with you.

[C]

Probably not pretty. The packers are really applying the heat on quarterbacks and they're giving up 4.8 yards per pass attempt. And I just, I don't know if George Pickens can be a lead receiver in place of Lamb. That was kind of one of the things that had us excited, maybe people who wanted to invest in Pickens, that he didn't have to be a lead receiver. With CD Lamb around, he could just kind of do his thing. Like I'm, I don't. He doesn't really run the whole route tree. Like his thing is making big plays down the sideline and asking him to be a one for one CD Lamb replacement just doesn't work. So I, I think they're going to struggle.

[A]

What do you think, D Bro?

[B]

I mean, I think what are we going to see from the Cowboys offense? We're going to see a crap ton of George Pickens and Jake Ferguson. So I, I don't know how much success they're going to have and I think a lot of that comes down to. I mean they're down some offensive linemen. I don't know how much time Dak is going to have have. But I think that Pickens and Jake Ferguson are going to get a crap ton of targets. Like pencil them both in for like 8 to 12 targets. They're going to get featured. And historically George Pickens is very good against single high. Like that's his bread and butter. So I've got a little more hope against like if you were to tell me the packers drop into like a too high shell, then good luck. I mean Ferguson is, would be it and Pickens is going to struggle. But if, if the packers match him up with single high, I think Pickens can have some success because he's going to get force fed volume. But I'm not telling anybody it's going to be pretty because Michael Parsons is in that backfield all freaking day standing over Dak Prescott. It's, it's not going to be good.

[A]

How many sacks is Micah getting in this game? Fitz?

[C]

I'll say just one because he's going to get double and triple teamed all game. But like collectively I think the packers.

[A]

Are getting just one.

[C]

The packers are going to get six, but Micah just gets one because of all the defensive attention and Debro mentioned it. They've got, they lost their starting center, Cooper BB he's not playing first Round rookie Tyler Booker, he's out for this game. So like down a couple of starting offensive linemen against this packers pass rush is just not a good scene for the Cowboys.

[B]

I'll take the over. I think Parsons Saxon twice. Like if I was a betting book, I would set the line at one and a half.

[A]

All right, let's go to. We have two games on Monday night Football. Jets at Dolphins is the first one. Breeze hall now has had back to back tough games coming off of his great week one. He now gets the Dolphins defense in a possible get right game. DBRO predict his stat line.

[B]

Dude, this is a fun nerd experience for me. I love this question because I like went through. I got into it deep in the bag. Like I was like, all right, right, we're gonna go rushing rate. We're looking at rushing volume. I want to sit here and see how many project like I went like full projections mode with this. So and then afterwards I compared it against what's live on fantasy pro site. That's pretty freaking close, man. So I have Breeze hall for 16 rushing attempts, 80 rushing yards, two catches, 21 receiving yards and I'll give him a score. I know the red zone's been more brave on Allen, so maybe that goes sideways. The site had him for 14.4, 62.4, three catches and 26 yards. So comparatively I'm a little more bullish because I think the jets are. I mean the Dolphins run defense has got awful, so I'm more ceiling focused here. But 18 touches versus the site. 17 and a half. I have 101 total yards and the site for fantasy pros we haven't projected for 88.4, so. Pretty close.

[A]

Fitz?

[C]

Yeah, I'm actually pretty close to Debro on the rushing prediction and pretty close to our projections at fantasy pros with the receiving. So I've got 17 for 75 on the ground, three for 28 in the air. No, I'll say no touchdowns. But like opponents are running on the Dolphins defense at the highest rate in the league. Like Miami, opponents have run the ball in 52.8% of their offensive snow. Interestingly enough, the jets are being run on at the second highest rate, 51.3%. So, you know, this series has been interesting. The Dolphins have kind of had the jets number and you know, I was surprised when I saw that Miami opened as three point favorites. But then I kind of remember the recent history has been going in the Dolphins direction. So maybe we see like a run heavy attack for both teams here. Although I don't know. I don't. I can't see the Dolphins just pounding away with the running game, but you never know. This is going to be. This is kind of a sneaky, interesting game, I think.

[A]

Last game of the week, Bengals at Broncos. Cincinnati got completely destroyed in week three, and you might be able to point to the matchup as particularly tough, but a game at the Broncos is not that much easier for a backup quarterback. So how well do we think the Bengals offense will bounce back back Debro.

[B]

They won't. They're not going to bounce back against this defense. The the same problems that Jake Browning had against Minnesota. Tell me if this sounds familiar. Now he faces a defense with Denver that has the 12th best pressure rate and they blitz at the third highest freaking rate. Sound pretty similar to Brian Flores because it is. It is a lot of man coverage. Jamar Chase is going to get wrapped up a Patrick Certain this week. So that's not good. They cannot run the ball. The Bengals have arguably the worst offensive line in the NFL. Poor Chase Brown, dude, he has the lowest yards before contact per attempt in the NFL to work with not even a full freaking yard. 0.43. This man is getting contacted before he even gets 3ft past the freaking offensive line. So. So good luck. Like you're starting Jamar Chase and outside of Jamar Chase, I don't. But you're just starting Jamar Chase in principle because of based off of talent and volume. It's not because if you took the name Jamar Chase out of this, do I want to go up against Patrick Freaking certain? No, I do not. But outside of that, I don't want to start a single other Bengal this week. None.

[C]

Fitz, I thought Chase Brown was actually averaging negative yards before contact per attempt. Is that wrong? Maybe I'm wrong on that. But. But at any rate, the Bengals offensive line ranks dead last in the league and the adjusted line yards run blocking metric. So yeah, it's just hard to see any hope for the running game. And then the Bengals have given up 10 sacks and face arguably the best pass rush in the league. Or maybe it's Green Bay is, you know, one of the best pass rushes in the league. Nick Bonito is just like that dude is darn near unblockable for the Broncos. He is just so good. I don't see much hope for the Bengals offense.

[B]

Honestly, Fitzy, you're almost right. Chase Brown, 0.02 yards before contact. He's barely at the positive, baby. By a toenail.

[C]

Blue Dog Blue Tarski so bad.

[B]

Dude. It's so bad.

[A]

On that lovely note, we'll go ahead and wrap up the show because we went a little long. Best of luck to everybody here in week four. For DBRO and Fitz, I'm Ryan Wormley. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you again next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast. If you love the show, the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on apple [e-mail] review or on Spotify. Follow us on X Instagram and TikTok at fantasypros and subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube.com review fantasy pros this.

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