The Extra Point: Rest-Of-Season Evaluations, Tough Weekend Decisions, and Chat Q&A (Ep. 1737)

Summary

FantasyPros Fantasy Football Podcast: The Extra Point

Episode 1737: Rest-Of-Season Evaluations, Tough Weekend Decisions, and Chat Q&A
Date: September 27, 2025
Host: Chris Welsh (“Welsh”)
Guest Expert: Pat Fitzmaurice (“Fitzy”)
Main Focus: Live Discord Q&A on fantasy football start/sit decisions, rest-of-season values, trade advice, and in-depth analysis.

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Episode Overview

This episode is a high-energy, interactive Q&A session with the FantasyPros Discord community, featuring Chris Welsh at the helm and Pat Fitzmaurice filling in for Andrew Erickson. The hosts tackle a wide variety of listener-submitted questions about start/sit choices, trade value, player evaluations, and broader roster-building strategy for the rest of the fantasy football season.

The tone is lively, conversational, and sometimes humorous, with lots of debate and differing viewpoints, making the advice accessible and engaging.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Start/Sit Dilemmas: Optimizing Lineups for This Weekend

Flex Decisions (03:27–05:04)

• Question: Javonte Williams, Tony Pollard, Igbuka, or T-Mac in Standard?
  • Fitzy: "I think it's between the running backs... I've got Javonte ranked two spots ahead of Pollard. Pollard’s getting great touches, but not a lot of touchdown equity there... you can run successfully against the Green Bay defense. Javonte is a better play than either of the wide receivers." (04:05)
  • Welsh agrees: "I think you gotta go Javonte here…especially with those offensive line questions for Pollard."

Jamar Chase: Trade or Hold? (05:04–06:03)

• Welsh: "I feel like we gotta hold. Jamar Chase…he’s talented enough, but the Bengals O-line worries me."
• Fitzy: "Just hold all season—he’s still a top 20, if not top 10, receiver. You won’t get fair value now." (05:55)

WR/TE & Flex Picks (06:41–09:51)

• Garrett Wilson: Start.
• Between Kincaid and Henry at TE (1.5 PPR):
  • Fitzy: "Henry—a great matchup vs Panthers." (07:03)
• WR: Piersol vs. Brian Thomas Jr.:
  • Fitzy: "Piersol if he plays. Thomas’s 28% catch rate and shaky chemistry with Lawrence is worrisome." (07:16)
• Flex: Chase Brown vs. others
  • Fitzy: "I’m following usage with Brown—over 18 touches a game. He should be performing better." (08:08)
• Welsh: "Brown might catch more balls but I’m super down on him; still, I can see the volume play." (07:35)

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2. Season-Long Roster Strategy

Dynasty & QB Holds (10:05–11:25)

• On holding multiple QBs: "I’d rather just throw darts at other positions. One-QB dynasty, QBs don’t carry the same value; use those roster spots for other upside guys." – Fitzy (11:00)

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3. Rest-of-Season Outlooks and Trade Values

Godwin vs. Shepherd/Alec in Half PPR (12:36–14:18)

• Welsh: "I’m okay rolling with Godwin, especially if Evans is out."
• Fitzy: "I’m just not confident Godwin will play more than half the snaps after that injury... I a Manor (Alec) might be the most dependable Titans WR right now." (13:03)
• Split decision; context and comfort level matter.

Running Back Streamers (15:17–16:26)

• RJ Harvey vs. Ali Gordon:
  • Fitzy: "Play Harvey. Bengals defense is bad, and offensive line is opening holes." (15:17)
  • Welsh: "Harvey leads the league in yards before contact (min.10 carries). Even with low volume, I’d go Harvey this week." (17:15)

Dak Prescott vs. Brock Purdy (18:22–19:13)

• Welsh/Pat: "Purdy over Dak. Dak’s missing linemen, has a tough matchup, and is outside top 20 QBs for us." (18:49)

Flex: ETN vs. Judkins (19:17–20:43)

• Welsh: "I'm full-go Judkins—Lions have a good tackling, but Judkins is the main guy. I'm bullish."
• Fitzy: "Split—ETN for more pass-catching upside; I'm a bit more concerned about Detroit as a matchup." (20:19)

WR Trade Advice (Pickens, Thomas, Tetaroa) (21:01–23:40)

• Welsh & Fitzy: Debated whether to trade Pickens or Thomas for Tetaroa McMillan:
  • Fitzy: "Thomas is a concern, but I like getting McMillan’s safer floor. I'd rather trade Thomas first, but all three WRs are in a similar tier." (22:40)
• Consensus: Prefer keeping Thomas with the hope for a bounceback, but cautious about all three.

Bill Cross (RB): Trade Value (30:11–31:56)

• Fitzy: "Not big on Bill rest of season—split usage and passing downs go elsewhere. Might be able to get Sam LaPorta at TE or a WR like Xavier Worthy in return." (30:57)

Travis Hunter's Rosterability (32:52–35:06)

• Welsh: "Cuttable in 10-team leagues after the latest news about his role; bench-depth dependent in 12+ team leagues."
• Fitzy: "Rosterable for now, but he's splitting snaps between offense/defense and role isn't growing. Low ceiling." (34:04)

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4. Trade & Waiver Questions

Multiple RB/WR Moves (43:15–47:15)

• Trading for J.K. Dobbins:
  • Welsh: "Smash accept if you can offer two TEs for Dobbins. OL is great for that team."
  • Fitzy: "Offer Ferguson or Henry if needed, but don’t include Kraft."

Seeking Rashee Rice (45:16–47:54)

• Fitzy: "Offering Chuba Hubbard or possibly Pearsall for Rashee Rice is fair—Rice’s ROS upside is real as Chiefs need playmakers."
• Welsh: "Option trading (offering a choice) gives you a better shot at a deal—let them pick between two." (47:54)

QB Upgrades: Fields vs. Kyler Murray (56:34–56:51)

• Both: "Fields just ahead of Kyler for this week."

Tight End Upgrades: Trading JSN for Warren? (57:21–57:23)

• Both: "No, keep Johnson Smith-Njigba. Don’t trade major WR depth for TE unless you have a dire need."

Would you drop Pacheco or Godwin for Woody Marks? (57:54–58:22)

• Both: "No, not at this time. Running backs in that Texans backfield have limited value."

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5. Rapid Fire & Notable Lightning Round Decisions

Timely Quick Hits

• Dart vs. Geno Smith (QB Stream): Geno, better matchup (50:11–50:39).
• Josh Jacobs Trade Market: Pierceall & Judkins for Jacobs might be fair if the Jacobs owner is desperate (51:23–51:37).
• Trade: Waddle & Henderson or Cam Scatterboo?
  • Welsh: "Fair deal, but Cam’s upside is tough to give up."
  • Fitzy: "Not doing it—Scatterboo is the guy."
• Harvey or Menongai? Waddle or Addison? Harvey and Waddle. (53:37–53:39)
• Drop BTJ for Jamar Chase? Yes. Send Trey Benson for Genty? Yes. (61:08–61:33)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On trusting Jamar Chase: "He’s still a top 20, if not top 10, receiver. I just don’t think you’re going to get fair value for him in a trade right now." — Fitzy (05:55)
• On Brian Thomas Jr.: "The Brian Thomas Jr. - Trevor Lawrence chemistry is just a bad chemical mixture that blows up." — Fitzy (08:08)
• Advanced RB Analysis: "Harvey leads the league in yards before contact... That means offensive line domination in the run game." — Welsh (17:15)
• On targeting trades: "Offering people a choice (two-for-one or picking between options) makes them feel in control and improves your chances of closing a deal." — Welsh (47:54)
• On Travis Hunter: "If you have a five-person bench, cut him. With a deeper bench, hold and see if things improve." — Fitzy (34:04)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:27: Start/sit RBs for Flex (Javonte, Pollard, etc.)
• 05:04: Jamar Chase: Trade or hold?
• 06:41: WR, TE, and Flex decisions (Piersol, BTJ, Chase Brown)
• 10:05: Dynasty QB philosophy
• 12:36: Bucs WRs (Godwin/Shepard) and RB injuries
• 15:17: Harvey vs. Ali Gordon at RB
• 18:22: Prescott vs. Purdy at QB
• 19:17: ETN vs. Judkins Flex
• 21:01: WR trade breakdown: Pickens, Thomas, McMillan
• 30:11: Bill Cross trade value
• 32:52: Travis Hunter’s roster value
• 45:16: Rashee Rice trade target
• 56:34: Fields or Kyler Murray at QB
• 57:54: Drop Pacheco/Godwin for Woody Marks?
• 61:08: Straight-up trade approvals

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Final Thoughts

The episode is packed with sharp, actionable advice, but the lively debates between Welsh and Fitzy mean there’s often more than one “right” answer. All takes are firmly rooted in recent trends, injury impact, usage data, and overarching strategic context, helping listeners develop a more nuanced approach to both week-to-week and rest-of-season management.

Listeners who missed the show will find this summary a comprehensive, insightful primer for prepping their lineups and making smart trades heading into the next fantasy football weekend.

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Transcript

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[B]

If you're waiting for your AI to turn into ROI and wondering how long you have to wait, maybe you need to do more than wait. Any business can use AI. IBM helps you use AI to change how you do business. Let's create smarter business. IBM. What's up, friends? And welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is the extra point right here on Fantasy Pros. We are live on the Discord. Who is we? Well, it's Welsh. That's me. Still no Ericsson. But guess what? We just got the number three ranker from week three. Pat Fitzmorris is back in the house. Fill in those very big shoes of Andrew Erickson. And I mean, you're the guy. You're the guy, Fitzy. People love you. I think more people in the chat ever than before than we've seen in quite some time. And as mentioned a gajillion times by me, very impressed with how you've done in the rankings this year. You are top of your game. So you are the perfect person to help out our fine, beautiful studio audience that we have here. So how you doing, buddy?

[A]

Doing well, Welsh. Thank you. Maybe I can. Let's see if I can do it in an even numbered week. I was top 10 in week one and week three and 112th in the rankings in week two. So, yeah, but happy to fill in for Erickson. And yes, seeing a lot of familiar faces. The audience really looking forward to taking questions.

[B]

Yeah, I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious like Stefon Diggs that I would be watching that if it is an even odd week thing. And man, by the way, you cannot enough of me this week. Fitzy has me every single day. Poor Fitzy. It's like we did the ranks episodes. We've got this. We're gonna do betting this week. Fitz is gonna be taking Erickson shoes here for the prop show. So we got a lot of it. And if you guys want to make sure that you are getting in on the action, make sure you guys are joining the Fantasy Pros Discord, because that is where we are live right now. We've got this full audience. We've got hands, right? This is the most amount of hands I've seen in quite some time where people get to come on, you get to produce the show, but we do this a lot. You can chat with other fans when you join the Discord community, get access to exclusive AMAs like this that end up as a podcast. We've got Some feeds for you. Worm and Fitz, 5:00pm Eastern on the first Tuesday of every month. Bogs and Fitz at 5:00pm Eastern on the third Tuesday of every month. So the first and third, you're going to get some fitcy action. And then me and Erickson or me and Fitz right now, Thursdays at 2pm Eastern, Wednesday. We're live here every single week. Come and be a part of the show. Be on it. Get your questions answered. Fantasypros.com chat fantasyprose.com chat join up today. This room is free access too, by the way, so you can join up in the discord. I think you just have to have like a free fantasy pros like account and then you can come in and do the stuff. All right, let's not waste any more time. We've got tons and tons of questions that are not Thursday Night Football on this one, ladies and gentlemen. I see you putting it in the chat and you guys are very smart to do so. Let's have our friend Bucksman kick off the show for us. Bucks, what do you got? How's it going, guys? Good, good, good, man. What do you got going on? Not much. Trying to.

[A]

Trying to, you know, keep going. I got two. Two big questions.

[B]

One, in the standard league, I need.

[A]

A flex, flex player. I have TMac, Igbuka, Tony Pollard and.

[B]

Javante Williams and we got to pick one. Pick one. Yeah, standard. Run it one more time. Egbuca Pollard. And I'm forgetting the other two, Te McMillan and Javante Williams. What do you think, Fitzy? You're going standard. You need a touchdown here. Which of those four?

[A]

Oh, man, I think it's between the running backs.

[B]

Like, I'm a little worried about you.

[A]

Yeah, I've got Javante ranked two spots ahead of Pollard. Like Pollard. Pollard's getting great touch counts every week. Like 18 at least in. Every week. But just not a lot of touchdown equity there with the Titans struggling to score. So, yeah, Javante, and I think, like, you can run successfully against the Green Bay defense as Quinton Quinshawn Judkins showed last week. Much harder to do business through the air against Green Bay. So I think it is in the best interest of the Cowboys to at least try to run it a little bit against Green Bay. And I don't like that they're without two of their starting offensive linemen on the inside, Cooper Beebe and Tyler Booker. But I still think Javante is a better play than either of the wide receivers. You know, Ted Arrow. McMillan is probably going to get Christian Gonzalez who's healthy again and Igbuka is a little banged up himself. So. Yeah, I like Javante here.

[B]

What's question number two? Okay, second question. What do I do with Jamar Chase? Do I, do I try and trade.

[A]

Them or should I just hold them.

[B]

Rest of the season? I feel like we got a hold. Jamar Chase, I think if you did consider, and I'm open to it, Fitz, if you want to say, like, yeah, it's just not this week. It's not coming off of the Bengals looking like one of the worst teams in the NFL. It's not the time to put Chase out there. I think he is talented enough. We've seen, we've seen guys do this before like Justin Jefferson did it. I am massively worried about the Bengals offensive line though, holding up, but I just don't think it makes a lot of sense going into the trade market unless you get somebody that like really, really is going to go aggressive. But what say you, you think you should trade them now? You think you should wait and then trade or just hold all season?

[A]

I think you just hold all season. Like, I still think he's a top 20 receiver, if not top 10, and I just don't think you're going to get fair value for him in a trade right now.

[B]

Agreed. Completely agree. All right, I got to stretch this out. I can't even see who this person's name is. It is. Oh, this is three, three, six, Hokie. There we go. I don't know why that wasn't so popping up here. Hokey, what up? Yeah, how's it going? Good, man. What you got for us? I got one start sit for the weekend and one longer term roster construction. So I put a couple of couple of different views of my team in the chat. The first one shows the ranking ECR rankings for this week. I've highlighted the guys green that are definite starters. And then from the yellow, I need a tight end, a receiver and one flex. So he's got Chase Brown, Travion Piersol, Brian Thomas, Kincaid and Henry. Let's start with the tight end. Henry or Kincaid?

[A]

Henry, your current tight end. 1 1/2 point PPR scoring and great matchup against the Panthers, who I believe gave up the most fantasy points to tight ends last year and giving up the eighth most this year.

[B]

Yes, sir. Did you say was it running back? I know you have a flex, but is it running back? I need one wide receiver and then.

[A]

A flex from the remaining.

[B]

Okay, so Garrett Wilson's already starting. So between Pierce on Brian Thomas.

[A]

I'm starting Pierce all like he's got a knee issue. Got to keep an eye on his status. He missed practice Wednesday but he says he's okay and is going to play. I'm very concerned about Brian Thomas Jr. Brian Thomas 28% catch rates and just like looking like maybe the wrist is bothering him.

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22% or 22 on ECR right now. Not his catch percentage but pretty close. 22 on ECR is his rank Chase Brown, Trayvon and Brian Thomas as your flex? I'll be honest with you. I, I almost is this full PPR half. Which one? Half half. You know what I mean. Got Chase Brown might catch more balls out of the backfield to be honest with you and has some touchdown equity. I kind of want to say Brian Thomas because I'm super down on Chase Brown but I'll throw Chase Brown as my pick here. I don't love that though. What do you say Fitz?

[A]

I know Chase Brown is running back 31 and half point PPR scoring but he's averaging 18.3 touches a game like that. Usage should be equating to better at least get him into the top 25 man. So I'm going to just follow usage here and go with Chase Brown because like this, this Brian Thomas Jr. Trevor Lawrence chemistry is just like you know a bad, bad chemical mixture in the lab that just blows up.

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Yeah, I'm open, I'm open to it being Thomas though. Niner secondary is okay but the thing is is I think Parker Washington is going to be the sneak play this week because I think Upton Stout, the rookie is going to be locking up on him and he gives up some big plays and they like playing two wide receiver sets. Parker Thomas and I think you're going to get Lenore locking up on Thomas and that's not a good matchup. But the 49ers also don't have a pass rush anymore because Bose is out. So that could be why Thomas eats a little bit. But I'll say Chase Brown, what was your bigger season long question. I see this other picture you have for us. Yeah, just, just a quick, just a.

[A]

Quick follow up on the start set.

[B]

So obviously BTJ BTJ plays if Pierce all doesn't and you guys both think Browns to be the flex. No thought on playing Henderson. I'm seeing a whole lot of speculation that he may actually get his shot. Yeah, there's thought for it. There's. There's thought but it just. We just don't know like that. That's tough when you have options. Yeah, you actually see it happen before you do it. If you didn't have options, if you were like, hey, should I do Bill or Travion? I would say travion in a. In a Mississippi minute, my friend. But you have options. And I just. We. I personally don't know yet, but it is a great matchup. Fitz. I. We did the rank show. I think you kind of relatively agree with what I just said.

[A]

Yep. Really good matchup. But we just don't know it could. Because before last week, he had been getting only about 30% of the snaps. And, you know, that only really changed because the other two running backs combined to fumble at three times.

[B]

It's like the old commercial, the how many licks does it take to get to the center of the Tootsie Pop? How many fumbles does it take for the Patriots to get to Randre Stevenson? We don't know what that number is yet. It was, you know, we just don't know. All right, but what's the bigger theory? All right. Yeah. So as far as the roster overall, I found. I. I finally abandoned or ditched on Anthony Richardson a couple weeks ago. Got Cam ward. It's a 1 QB. Do I. Do I keep. Do I hold on to him, you think? Or do I just let him go and just play with Prescott Knicks? I would not hold three quarterbacks in a one quarterback league. I would do the two quarterbacks and I would go out into the ether and look for somebody with some upside based on the names you're showing me. Unfortunately, I guess there's really not a lot of upside there.

[A]

Maybe not a lot there.

[B]

Maybe Wick.

[A]

This is kind of a dynasty. Hybrid keeper league, right? Hokey, like sort of dynasty.

[B]

It's a full dynasty. We got 20, 20, 20 roster spots.

[A]

So the wave of our pretty thin. Yeah. In one QB dynasty, like, quarterbacks just don't have the value that they have in Super Flex. So I think I'd rather just throw darts at other position. And you have some. You have some pretty good players. Like, it would be hard to justify releasing any of the other guys on your roster right now to keep M. Ward around.

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Agreed. Thank you for the questions. Hokey Salt. Salt's in the house. Hey, guys.

[A]

How you doing? I'm good.

[B]

How you doing?

[A]

Good. Y' all choose a half PPR or full ppr.

[B]

Where do you want to start? Oh, let's start. Let's work our way up. So let's go half. Okay, so half ppr. I'm just wondering where are you guys at on all the Bucks? Are you starting Godwin this week? I had Mike Evans so I had Godwin on IR anticipating the hamstring thing and I picked up Sterling Shepherd. So I'm wondering if you play Godwin immediately or start Sterling Shepherd. The other option is our guy a leak on Tennessee. Okay so. Oh yeah, Alec, this is a good question. I just had did this with Bogman on in this league fits. Bogman is doing a cautious approach and I think like we were doing that with Jordan Addison and stuff. I am not. I'm not going all in but I am good with Godwin. They're out. Evans Mecca has been a little bit banged up. This is a huge matchup. Full practice for Godwin. This is a vet. I think Godwin is full go and I throw this out with how a Mecca is played. I think he's going to be the bigger field stretcher and I think there's going to be a lot of more. A lot more defensive back pressure put on him and they are going to just slot Godwin all day long. So I am Godwin over Alec and I'm just Godwin in general. What about over Sterling Shepard? Same team, same with Shepard playing. What do you think Fitzy?

[A]

Yeah, we're going to have to give you a split decision. Here it is.

[B]

I knew it was coming. I could feel it.

[A]

Sorry. Salt. I just. I'm not wildly confident that Godwin plays more than like half the offensive snapshot.

[B]

With Evans out and against the Eagles when he's full practice.

[A]

I mean like it's more like about the ape sign him to a contract extension and I think they have to worry about the well long term well being of a guy whose foot like I mean this was less than half a year ago that his foot was like dangling limply from the rest of his leg. Like that was a nasty injury. So I'm kind of concerned that he doesn't play full complement of snaps. And you know Alec, I a manor has only three fewer snap, three fewer targets than Calvin Ridley. Cam Ward has two passing touchdowns. They both gonna I a Manor. Like he might be the most dependable receiver the Titans have right now. So I kind of think he's a better percentage. Like I just. I'm worried about this box offense right now. The two offensive linemen they lost last week. Well, Cody Mock and like I know they get Tristan worse back this week and that's huge.

[B]

But pretty good.

[A]

Yeah but like still they're still down two offensive line.

[B]

You know what helps when Your offensive line is bad, having one of the best slot receivers in the NFL to quickly throw the ball to and Chris Godwin. Chris Godwin's rank is not going to help on ECR. It's like in the 80s people just don't know what to do yet. I like Iron. Minor is ranked 55 on half PPR ECR so I agree if you are uncomfortable with Godwin I Minor is the guy I would go to though. But we are split decision on that. I will say it looks like Stingley is going to be out on the Texans so that could be a plus there. But the half PPR question, I'm completely decimated at running back because I've got Drake London and CD Lamb and Cortland Sutton at wide receiver. So I'm basically stuck between playing RJ Harvey and Ali Gordon. I've got Chris Rodriguez off of waivers too. So who do we think is getting the touchdown? This week is where we're at. Oh Salt, you're bringing the fire. Good questions. Fitz, you start because I know where I want to go with it but I just want to see where you you do this.

[A]

I would play Harvey. The Bengals defense is really bad. The Sean Payton is kind of like he eliminated Tyler Bidet from the backfield so now it's just a two man backfield. Dobbins and Harvey Dobbins is clearly number one. But I know Harvey only touched it five times I think last week. But he did have a couple of nice plays that were negated by penalties but actually should have been a few more touches and a little bit better box score than we saw from Harvey last week. So I do think they're kind of slowly but surely ramping up Harvey and you know Harvey against that terrible Bengals defense is the way to go I believe.

[B]

Is anybody else offended that his name is Bidet and not he's a baddie? He's like I'm not old enough calling people baddies but like dude's batty. Like it pisses me off.

[A]

I've got a friend who went to the University of Missouri, goes to a lot of their football games and he said that for however many years. The PA announcer said it was Beatty.

[B]

And then that's even dumber. Like he is. Anyone have a weirder transition of a name? He's either a Bidet or a baddie. Like that's the weirdest position of like.

[A]

Vernacular player himself says it's Bidet.

[B]

Yeah, a couple of things. By the way Salt, make sure you always come in here. I feel like I could talk ball with salt for a while. Yeah, is great breakdown stuff. That was awesome. We are in agreement on RJ Harvey. I did not. I didn't think you would go there. I wasn't 100% sure. I've been kind of citing this. This is what I love. You can look. Fantasy points data has yards before contact, yards after contact. I use Judkins. If you guys heard me ranting this week about like, that's one of those, like, Judkins is on list. He's getting yards before, he's creating yards after. But check this out. After I sorted, I filtered the running backs by having at least 10 attempts. That's important. You know, I don't. I don't need to see the guys with two. I need to see Will Shipley. Of the top 15 running backs in yards before contact, two of the top three are Denver Broncos. RJ Harvey leads the league with at least 10 carries of yards before contact. So what that means to you is offensive line domination in the run game. 4.31 yards before contact is made for Harvey. An okay 1.85 after contact. JPK Dobbins, by the way, almost three yards before and two and a half after contact. So the offensive line is creating incredible opportunities. They are in an absolutely garbage matchup this week. Harvey has not gotten volume. But if those are my options, I'm putting Harvey out there because I feel a big breakaway play is happening. So we're in it. We're in it together. We're in it, brother.

[A]

I like it. Yeah. Big disparity between the Broncos and the Dolphins offensive lines. No question.

[B]

Shout out to Salt. All right. Absolutely. Great question. Salt. Ronan.

[A]

What's up, gentlemen?

[B]

Yo. What do you got?

[A]

Two bits here? Prescott versus Brock Purdy. If healthy, I mean, who do you ride with at this point?

[B]

I'm riding with Purdy. I got him at 12, but, you know, I'm a home there. You think? Okay, good.

[A]

Dax? No. Lamb. Horrible matchup. Down two of his starting offensive lineman. It's a really bad spot for Dak. I've got him. Is he outside my top 20 this week?

[B]

I think he's 17.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm lower than that. I've got him. Oh, what am I looking. Oh, sorry. I was looking at rest of season rankings. I think I might have him at exactly 20. He's a QB20 for me. I've got him below Sam Darnold.

[B]

Purdy is like 13 or 14, I think, in ECR, so. And we're both. We're Both co signing Purdy there.

[A]

Yep. That's better than me.

[B]

Question number two.

[A]

Yes, sir. So it's a sit start for the most flex position and a half PPR between ETN or Judkins.

[B]

Etn. Oh, well, I mean, we all know where I'm going with that. I am full go on Judkins. You know, really interesting thing I saw, too, on. I like to look at pff. I like to matchup ratings. They're giving Judkins is really poor rating, but I think it's. It's under the guise of him being like a backup and limited carries because Jerome Ford is actually given a decent rating because that defensive front on the Lions, they're really good tacklers. Like, you don't get a lot of missed tackles on them. You know, they don't. You can't break tackles. They don't miss tackles. But the defensive front isn't that great. And it's actually given one of the good, quote, good ratings, which is that second tier of rating matchups. And Judkins is the main guy and I've been preaching about it. So this is Jutkins to me versus ETN versus the 49ers defense, but I'm going a little crazy with it. What do you think, Fitzy?

[A]

Kind of a split decision here. Welsh? I'm a little higher on etn. I think there's a little more pass catching upside. And I. I don't know. Maybe I. Maybe I'm a little more concerned about Detroit as a matchup than you are. Just a little. I agree that they're not like a, you know, skull and crossbones matchup, but I don't think they're a real friendly matchup either.

[B]

So you're etn.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Did we. That was the second question. Right. I didn't just dump Ronan out and he had another question. Did he? Okay.

[A]

Oh, that was question two.

[B]

I started second guessing myself. I was like, okay, good. Good stuff there. I didn't know. Goalie, premium member of the fantasy pros. Discord. Sup? How are you guys doing? We're doing great, dude. How you doing?

[A]

Good.

[B]

Good. I set my roster up a little bit. I'm sitting here stressing with Nico Collins, Brian Thomas Jr. And now that Pickens kind of became wide receiver one in Dallas, I was thinking of moving off of him for Ted McMillan. Well, I was wondering what y' all think about that. So. Okay, so the question is trade Pickens to get Tetaroa.

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Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. You kind of look at my roster above Ooh let me, let me throw this at you, Fitzy. Would you rather trade Pickens for Tedaroa or Brian Thomas for Tetaroa?

[A]

I mean, I love to. I think I'd rather trade Brian Thomas Jr. Such are my concerns with him, but I like trading pickens for Tearawa McMillan too. I just think Pickens is kind of miscast as a lead receiver. He's got his thing, like, he makes spectacular sideline catches, and I think we're going to see with Lamb out that he just can't run the full route tree. And he's not really a timing guy like I noticed last week. I think it was where there were just a couple times where Dak was kind of looking at Pickens. Like, you could tell Pickens was not where he was supposed to be on play. So, yeah, I mean, like, I like Pickens more when Lamb is around than when he's not around, quite honestly. So I just think McMillan is a more complete receiver and probably has a safer floor the rest of the way.

[B]

So you sign off on Trey trading Pickens for Tetaroa. Given the option between trading Thomas or Pickens for Tetaroa, is it still Pickens or is it Brian Thomas?

[A]

I think I'd trade Thomas first, actually.

[B]

All right, so there you go. That's kind of a good breakdown. I think they're all kind of in a bucket. They're in a similar bucket. Ted Arrow has got plenty of upside. I do. I will throw this out. I have a slight concern that, like Brian Thomas start is not only bad, it's so comically bad with things that seem maybe out of control, that, you know, this guy's like a top five wide receiver last year. Are we ready after three games to just like ship it and be like, it's done? I'm not 100% sure, but at the same. In the same time, this is like the art of trading. If you don't, that trade value is going to continue to plummet and you might not be even be able to get close to getting a guy like Tedaroa for Brian Thomas if there's one more week of this. So I'm very, very torn on it. I personally would lean to trading Pickens before Thomas right now.

[A]

Yeah, actually, I. Now that I have a rethink of it, I feel the same way about that. Well, she's like, Thomas could have a hundred yard game and make us look stupid this week.

[B]

Yeah, it's just so early. The sample sizes are tough, and it's like, it's so comical. His his catch percentage right now of targets. Like we talk. I did this with Bogman. Bogman was like, you know, he just, he's not in the offense and it's like he's getting the targets. It's just, it's like Benny Hill like, like it drops off his hands. It's like so stupid.

[A]

It doesn't seem like it.

[B]

Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's something that could maintain so very good stuff breaking down. More questions coming up, but we want to remind you guys to check out my playbook. It is time to sync your league instantly to my playbook. And guess what? You can get customized advice on how to manage your team throughout the season. You guys are asking about Brian Thomas. Well, you can see your league's top available players, power rankings and more, and you can do this all for free. Looking at Ricky Purasol, is he going to play the injury? Well, guess what are they playing the tool. You can get that each week and get the latest game day availability odds for all injured players. If you're premium, you can also unlock all kinds of helpful waiver, trade, lineup and league analysis tools. You can even get autostart your team's optimal lineups each week with Autopilot. And why that's so important. You got these games that are happening overseas, like for the next month or so. Are you going to get up early enough? If you're worried you're not Autopilot, even better has got your back. Sync your league and dominate every week of the season with my [e-mail] myplaybook or on the Fantasy Pros app. This podcast is sponsored by Total Wireless, the official wireless partner of ufc. When you're streaming the fight or sharing those takedown highlights, you need a wireless provider that keeps you close to the action. With Total Wireless, you're covered by the Verizon 5G network, so you don't have to worry about your connection being knocked out at the biggest moments. It's not something you can usually say about a wireless provider, but Total Wireless really does have your back. They're in your corner every second of the day, so you never miss a thing. Visit totalwireless.com or visit your local Total Wireless Store to learn more about how Total Wireless can be in your corner. 5G access requires a 5G capable device and a 5G service area. Additional terms apply. See website for details. So your AI agents, they make the team that uses them more productive, right? But if they aren't connected to other agents or your data or Your existing workflows. How productive can they really make your teams? Any business can add AI agents. IBM connects your agents across your company. To change how you do business, let's create smarter business.

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[A]

You know that that really hurts me.

[B]

Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm a Diamondback fan. Yeah, like it's all about. Right now it's Diamondbacks, Padres for the next three games if they're going to get in. But you know, I'm a pseudo Padres fan because I love the boys.

[A]

All right, what do you got again?

[B]

Oh, no, you're breaking up.

[A]

Oh, no. Kind of like the Padres against the brewers last night.

[B]

Oh, no. Does this mean. All right, Joe, fix your connection and then I'll get you right back in. I'll get you right back in. I'll get you top of the line once you fix that connection. But while you are doing that, let's go to ATV. ATV. ATV. ATv. Uh, oh, okay. Hey, guys, what's up? Nothing much.

[A]

Just trying to ride the high of my picks.

[B]

Last week I ended up getting scat bow with my number one waiver wire pick. And now I traded on that one high game Tucker Craft had with the 24 fantasy points. I was able to get Trey Benson for him before this whole James Connor injury happened. So trying to ride that, we would have. We would have yelled at you for selling way too low. But now that looks really, really good. So that. Those are some good moves. Scatter Boo is a great pickup. What do you got on the questions for this week? So I have three running backs. I have Genty, Scatbo and Benson. Which of those two would you start this week? It's. I think the Genti. Maybe I shouldn't, but I'm going to just say Genti's locked. Benson Scad was a really good question. I think they're pretty similar. I think ECR, remember scared was like 23 and Benson's like 19. What's.

[A]

Oh, oh, just one of the running backs we're talking about might be playing in a certain game that takes place before Sunday.

[B]

Oh, you're right. Oh, evil Thursday Night Football question got in. So. Yes. See that. My brain just fried. I would have sat the. I think I might have sat the Thursday guy.

[A]

I would have said you who must not be named.

[B]

Okay. That's the answer in Voldemort. They're evil Thursday Night Football things when they'll sneak in there. That's a tough one because that wasn't like a direct one, but there was an impression. So remember, no Thursday Night Football, but you rock that Scatter Boo this week. He's. He's level, dude.

[A]

Yeah. Go back and listen to ATV to our start sit show on our ranking show this week and you will hear more Scatter Boo love from me than you could possibly even want.

[B]

That's true. Egg boy. Egg boy's in the house. What's up? Hey, can you hear me? Okay, we got you. You sound great, man.

[A]

Cool. Thanks. I was wondering about Bill Cross. Commerc. What do we feel about him and.

[B]

What do you think I could go.

[A]

After for a trade, whether it's wide.

[B]

Receiver or a tight end position. Oh, this isn't like a this week thing. This is just like overall theory. And then what could the trade market look like?

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry, what position did you say? Tight end? Tight end or wide receiver? Curious about the comparables. Okay, this is a question for you. I'm pretty out on Bill this week as a general. I hate the three running back thing. He has a great like team touchdown percentage, but he is like all touchdowns and not a ton else. What do you think, Fitzy? What do you think about him rest of season? And if you were trading out, what do you think the market looks like of what you could go and buy?

[A]

I mean, I'm a little. I just don't know how much. The commanders are totally sold on him and the fact that we saw Chris Rodriguez start last week and get more carries, and I know that was kind of a blot, but like, I went back and looked at the garbage time and it really wasn't. I think maybe like there were two extra carries for Rodriguez that could be categorized as garbage time and he out carried Crosby, Merritt 11 to 8. So it was pretty much a split usage. And we know Jeremy McNichols is going to be the passing down guy, so I think he has, like, sort of limited flex type value. I think, like, you might be able to get Sam Laporta for him. If not, I'd maybe be willing to take like Hunter Henry or possibly even Dalton Kincaid for him. And wide receivers, I don't know.

[B]

Maybe.

[A]

Like Xavier Worthy, Juan Jennings, maybe like one of these injury cases. Godwin Addison coming off the Jennings one.

[B]

Addison and Jennings, I kind of like those. I kind of don't think you can. I think it's too high still. It's a bad. It's a bad week to trade Bill, though, because he's banged up with this knee thing. I don't know if he's gonna get a lot of runs. So unless somebody is out there giving something good, you might want to wait a week out. But I think those are. That's kind of a good range. That's a range of what you should target. But, you know, you. You do a heat check on your league, you see where people are at. That's a very, very good question. Vans Van 54, by the way. What's up? What's up, dude? Just chilling at work, kind of bored, so I thought I'd chime in a bit. Let's do it. I love it. I love the people at work that are just like, now, let's do this. We're here for. Oh, yeah, my boss will hate me, but that's okay. Okay, get to the point quick.

[A]

What are you guys feeling about, like, Travis Hunter and stuff? Is he. Is he even rosterable, like. Or is he. Is it better to shoot up for, like, the upside guys like A. Tudin.

[B]

Or like Luther Burden and people like that? It's a great question. I'm. I'm kind of ling the streets with. With Travis Hunter right now, especially after this week, Fitzy, where Cohen essentially said, like, he's not changing the role. And that was a new. That was a little bit new because in the beginning we knew, like, you know, snap percentage be a little bit lower. They were playing him, you know, in these three wide receiver sets. We're looking for Progression. And then they just essentially he was like, nope, he'll never be an extra Z receiver. He's going to stick in this role the entire season. And that pours cold water on it. They ride design or they run design plays. Just not enough and the team sucks right now. I think at a 10 man league, Travis Hunter is cuttable. What he just said sound to me like a 12 man league. I'm not sure I'm out there cutting him for guys like Toot. And I kind of, be honest with you, don't think I am. But I am pessimistic on Travis Hunter right now, especially after the words from this week.

[A]

That's understandable. I've got him like wide receiver 52. My rest of season rankings. I don't think he's quite cuttable because there is upside. That's the thing. Like he is a terrific athletes and you know, even if he's not a polished wide receiver yet, he could still have fantasy value in that role if, you know, the Jaguars consistently give him at least like, I don't know, 70% of the offensive snaps. But this is kind of what I feared beforehand and why I didn't draft a lot of him, especially in Dynasty. Like I was terrified that they were going to rug pull us and have him be more of a cornerback than a wide receiver. Not that he's necessarily being more of a cornerback now, but he's being almost equally a cornerback to being a wide receiver. So I don't know, man, like if you, it depends how. If you have a five person bench, then yeah, cut him. But like if you've got, you know, 10 bench spots, I think you just hold on and see if things get any better in the next few weeks.

[B]

Hold on to your butts. Samuel Jackson. Completely agree. Joseph's back. Let's see if that connection is better. Yo, are we good? We got you. What do you got? Ask it quick before it all breaks. I'm sorry, I got two questions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sound good now? All right, starts it. If Fields plays, do I go Fields or Knicks for quarterback? Knicks. Incredible matchup versus the Bengals even though he's been stinky. Bengals. Stinky Ist. Fitz, do you cosign?

[A]

Cosign.

[B]

Okay, cosign Nicks. All right, second question is a trade question. I hope I don't get dishonored because it includes a Thursday night player. Well, it's. This is a season long one. This is acceptable.

[A]

Okay, good.

[B]

So essentially, would you guys trade away.

[A]

Ken Walker, T. Higgins and Godwin or Hampton?

[B]

I Can't say it's the Titans rookie. Yeah.

[A]

Manor. Yeah, IO, Manor.

[B]

And.

[A]

And Charbonnet.

[B]

Wait, what? You're trading Walker Higgins and who's the third piece? Walker, Higgins and Godwin. It seems like a lot for just Hampton. No, I'm not gonna do that. I think Godwin can be back to being a wide receiver too. Ken Walker and Hampton I think can be equivalent. And you're giving away Higgins, who. I know we're down on Higgins, but then you're only getting Ion Minor back. I say no.

[A]

Yeah, I'm. I think it's pretty close. I think I would probably stick with Walker and Higgins. It does seem weird that you guys would be exchanging Walker and Charbonnet in that deal. Generally, one who doesn't have the other is looking to get the other. And you guys are kind of crossing the streams there.

[B]

That is a weird stream crossing here. Cross the streams from Discord to Twitch because we've got some Twitch content for you guys. Every Monday, check out of bounds. It's me, Bogman and Joe Pizzapia on twitch. Mondays at 2pm Eastern. You guys can hang out with us there. And then the video goes to YouTube. Also on Tuesdays. Well, now, now, Tuesdays, that was Monday. Tuesdays at 12pm Eastern. Bogman and I have been doing an hour full chat. Kind of like this. Then we jump in and play Madden matchups. We got Madden Matchups while also answering questions. Then we take a break. Apparently on Wednesday, Seth and D, bro. Got you Thursday and Friday. Thursdays at 1pm Eastern, Fridays at 2pm Eastern. And then Sundays we got two for you. Noon and 7:30pm Eastern. We got Q and A's before the game start up. And then a recap. Here's what you understand. There's a lot of cool content. Twitch TV fantasypros. Twitch TV Fantasypros. Give us don't miss the streams. Get live questions answered and you can hang out with us. It's a live show. It's pretty fun. So go and check that. By the way, Joseph said it wasn't Charbonnet was RJ Harvey, so it doesn't really change.

[A]

Okay, gotcha.

[B]

Makes more sense now.

[A]

Negates my across the streams reference though, so.

[B]

But it created a wonderful transitional thing for me. So hat tip to you. Fly Eagles. Fly is up on the chat. Hey, can you guys hear me? Yeah, we got you, man. What's up, sir? Hey, so I have a couple of.

[A]

Questions for you guys with rankings that are really tight.

[B]

So for PPR, I've got a decision between the RB22, RB23, and RB24 in ECR. So would you start Jalen Warren, who's ranked 23rd over Alvin Camara. I am going Camara on that one. What do you say, Fitz?

[A]

Yeah, I've got Camara, too. I'm kind of second guessing that one. The usage with Warren has been really good lately. And, like, what if the Saints are getting trucked so badly they just kind of shut Chimera down late in the game? And, like, his past game usage has not been great. Like, I've got Camaro ranked higher. To me, that one's like a coin flip.

[B]

Honestly, it is slightly into Camara, though, but it's not.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, he's still. We still think he's the better player, right, Welsh?

[B]

Yeah, I. I agree with that. Also, like, Kenny Gainwell's annoying, so there. There's an. Kendrick Miller is into annoying territory right now. Gainwell is annoying, so that takes some potential upside away. What was the other question? That's a good point. It's also Jalen Warren versus Trey Benson. Oh, yeah, you can't ask that one. I would have gone Trey Benson. I. I don't know if it would have been right or not, but that's what I would have gone with, so. All right, there you go. That's good. Good RB questions there. Team not Jalen Warren, apparently, is where we're at. Mad Dog Premium Member Fantasy Pros Discord. What's up? Hey, can you hear me? We got you. Good, man. All right, Good deal. Hey, first off, I want to say thank you to the Welsh for telling me to pick up Nick Kurtz. He saved my season in baseball. Hell yeah, brother. We'll take a little baseball love in there. Nick Kurtz is a beast. The big homage. Love it. But y' all did help me win last year, so I'm back again. I'm about to drop my team in the chat, actually. No, I'm not. But I got the two. Two guys going tonight, so they're both sitting on my bench, but I have. So I'll have Genti and Bucky at running back. Love it. And then I did a lot of trading this week, so I'm trying to figure out what my lineup's going to look like now. I have London McMillan, Devonte Adams, and Cam Sutton. And I also have Scatter Boo, so I can play two receivers and two in the flex. So, okay, so we can sit one. We've got. We got to roll through it again. We've got Adam, we got London Adams, Tet. Yes. And then Cam Sutton and. Yeah, and Sutton. Yeah. And then I also have Cam Scatter Boo. And then I also have etn, but I probably wasn't gonna play him over any of those guys. Okay, thank you, brother. And thank you for the Kurt shout out there. So it's essentially kind of like a sit one here. What's your lean here? I can't sit. I mean, Adams, if he's hurt, that's gonna. If he doesn't play, which it looks like he will, that would be your answer. I got to play London. I got to play Adams. I got to play Ted a row. I guess I'm sitting Sutton in this situation. I want to. I want to start. It's not going to be Scam Cataboo this week. It's going to be Cam Scatter Scam is the alternate ego where he disappoints. This is a Cam Scatter Boo week, so I'm going to sit Sutton, I suppose. What say you, Fitzy?

[A]

Yeah, you know, I'm playing Scatter Boo. It comes down to McMillan versus Sutton for me. I do worry a little bit about the McMillan versus Christian Gonzalez matchup, but I. I have McMillan ranked one spot ahead of Cortland Sutton, I do think.

[B]

But it's the bank. Forgot about that.

[A]

It's the bank. Yeah, that. That one is really close, man. I think it's in the coin flip zone, so I'm. You know, it comes down. You're going to flip it?

[B]

I'm flip. You know what? I actually might have a. Don't I have a coin here? I think I had an actual coin.

[A]

I'm going to. I'm going to flip it, too. No, I'm going to move Sutton ahead of McMillan in my rankings. I've made the command decision. Welsh.

[B]

I'm going to flip also. Heads is Cortland, and tails is Teteroa. Cortland Sutton it is. And I was also going with Cortland Sutton, so the. The odds and the gods are with us. We are going Cortland, son. I forgot. That is such a beautiful, beautiful matchup. Can't. Can't go away from it. Rice pudding. Something I've never had in my life, but rice is going to be talking here. What's up? Rice pudding. Gotta unmute, though. Have you ever had rice pudding? I don't know what. The consistency seems gross, so I've never had it either. No. Yeah, I don't. That's his name, but. All right. Rice unmute. Figure it out, add back in, and I will get you up next, our boy Dev. I know Dev is working from home and hanging with us. Dev is. He's like a tier 1 pros people. Dev is around for everything. What's up, brother?

[A]

Hey. What's going on, guys? How's it. How's it going?

[B]

What's up, brother? We're doing good, dude. What you got?

[A]

So I put two of my teams in the chat, so I'm trying to work trades in both of them and not very good at this trading stuff. So we're trying to. We're trying to fix that, buddy.

[B]

Sometimes it's not you, it is them. It's sometimes the people around you are not good at the trading market. But. All right, so I see. I got. I found your stuff. What's the. What are we doing?

[A]

So, yeah, so the team I have, I'm wondering if should I even make this trade or offer? It is. I want to see if I can go ahead and get Dobbins for JCM and Henry because my running backs in this team are weak.

[B]

Smash.

[A]

I have KW3.

[B]

Smash.

[A]

No, don't do it.

[B]

No, no. I would. Smash. I'm smashing. I don't think they do it, but if you can do it. I just sided off the offensive lines. Ridiculous. For that team, Dobbins is not going anywhere. I love it. I just don't think it gets done. But absolutely put that offer out there. Fitzy, do you agree?

[A]

He said he was thinking about either be Henry or Ferguson. So maybe if I open to Ferguson, he might do it. Because I also have Kraft, so I'm actually really good on tight ends for some reason.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I kind of don't want to trade Ferguson, but Kraft makes it easier. Fitzy, what do you think about that real quick? If it's Ferguson or Henry with jcm, does it matter? Would you do it? What do you think?

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I do. I would include either Henry or Ferguson in that deal. I don't think I'd want to give Craft and JCM for Dobbins.

[B]

Definitely not. Yeah.

[A]

No. Yeah. I want to sit on Craft too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think he's my ride or die this year.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What's number two?

[A]

Okay. So the other one is this team I feel a lot better about. I think I'm pretty good at running back, quarterback. My wide receivers are okay. The team who has rashi rice has 0 and 3 and is weak on wide receiver. So I'm wondering. I'm just looking at my team. What could I offer him that could move the needle where he Would trade Rice to me or should I even look to Rice?

[B]

Is this the team that has like London and Sutton and stuff? I see like multiple posts.

[A]

Yes, the second one.

[B]

Okay, I see what London, Collins, you got Josh Allen. Yeah, I think I'm looking at the wrong ones here. Why?

[A]

It's at the bottom of the chat. I'm sorry, guys. I just thought the pictures would be easier to use.

[B]

Oh, yeah, no, it totally is. I just think I'm looking at the. I'm not seeing it though. Oh, wait, no, no. Here he goes. It's like completely.

[A]

Yeah, I got it.

[B]

My bad, my bad. Okay, so Pierasol, London bench wide receivers. You have Mike Evans who's hurt Golden, Johnston, Ridley. Okay, so a yes. Love getting Rice Fitzy. What do you think gets Rice done based on his team construction?

[A]

I think the most fair possible deal would be Chuba Hubbard for Rasheed Rice. That helps this person right away. You're giving them a running back who's averaging what, 15 or 16 touches and you're doing that they're own three. They get something something for the next three weeks. They're getting a quality running back too, as opposed to the nothing they're going to get for Rasheed from Rasheed the next three weeks. But I think it's fair for you because I think Rasheed, like this offense needs him and I think I undervalued Rasheed Rice in the off season and I get a cop to that. Like I've just thought like how Xavier Worthy was going to be kind of a problem for the target chair for Rashee Rice. This offense is just kind of broken right now and I think they desperately need Rasheed Rice back to do what he is so good at doing. Making easy catches and turning them into yards. Like the. The Chiefs need someone who can do that. Is there anything else you would offer because he's. He's strong and running back. He has a Marion Hampton, Genti Chase. Well, Chase Brown and Travion Henderson and his team. So I don't know if he would be open to another running back. So he only carry four in this league. You could try Pierce All I don't know if it gets.

[B]

That's what I was going to say what I was going to throw out there. There's a theory thing that I would like. I like to do and if the running backs work. Thank you. Dev is kind of mess with people brains. I would have said you can have Hubbard or Benson give them two because then you're putting them in a spot where they Just don't. They're not in a place where they immediately want to decline. You're now giving them an option and they're like, well, I'll pick this one. You know, so you're almost creating this value thing so you can go a little bit of a long way. Double if you were to give him both of those options. If not, I like throwing pure Sol out there. I think pure Sol is a pretty even one. You'd have Mike Evans coming back. I think we agree. I think we're all kind of lockstep here.

[A]

Yeah, that's. And that's a great call. Welsh. Like that psychological thing of giving them the choice, like, it makes the other person feel like they are in control of the negotiation.

[B]

Huge.

[A]

In a way. Like it's. Yeah, it's a really smart ploy.

[B]

Yeah. This is not this company, so don't get this twisted. I've worked in, you know, corporate America and I have had. I've worked in places where I needed the people above me. They were people that had to have ideas come from them. So I would literally sit and we would position suggestions in the company where they could make a comment and we'd be like, good idea. And then they feel ownership to an idea that we came up with. But you let the person feel like they have the control. Same thing in the trade market is give them a couple options. And I think I literally. I don't know if there's a quantifiable data towards it. I personally feel like you have like a 5 to 10 or 10% better. 5 to 10% better chance of getting a deal done. When giving someone an option instead of only saying, will you do this for this? But that's just by it. Cool. All right. We are in like a 10 minute window. We have a lot of questions. So we are gonna do a little lightning round as much as we can. So as best as possibility with you guys with questions, try to quickly get it out. And we will rock it because I want to get to as many as yours as possible. And let's start with Baby Billy. Baby Billy in here. I wish I could do a good Baby Billy, but I can't do the impression. Shout out to. Was it Walter Goggins? Is that right? All right. What's up? Baby Billy got on mute. Bad start to lightning round. Horrific start to lightning round. Baby Billy, unmute and let us know. We're gonna try again with Rice Puddin. See if Rice Puddin got it fixed. Lightning round Rice Puddin. I still see you on Mute, though. Literally. This is like A Bengals Week 3 against the Vikings start we're having here. All right, Rice pudding. Figure it out and come back and let us know. Mr. Velvet Jones. Are we going to have a strike three here? No. Yeah.

[A]

Hey, guys, can you hear me?

[B]

Yes. Great. Yeah. Great, man. Great voice. What's up? All right.

[A]

This is the best. Looking for. Going to be dropping Trevor Lawrence and wondering if I should be going with Jackson Dart or Gino.

[B]

Oh, what do you. What do you think, Gino?

[A]

I think Dart might give you some rushing value, but I think it's going to be probably looking pretty ugly through the air. And, you know, Geno had that nightmare game in Week 2, but it's been pretty good otherwise. And the Bears pass defense is kind of a train wreck there without their two best cornerbacks, Jalen Johnson and Kyler Gordon. I think this is a good matchup for Gino.

[B]

And you're doing. You want to cut Lawrence for Gino?

[A]

Yes. Okay. Yes.

[B]

Rice Puddin. I see it unmuted. Am I unmuted? Yes, brother.

[A]

We are here.

[B]

So hard to figure this out.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I don't understand all the stupid technology. It's just like. Just make it super easy, but what you got, man? Yeah. Anyways, I tried to put my team in the chat, but it will not let me press the ad button either. So maybe it's a fun problem. Anyways, trying to figure out how to get Jacobs from the owner, and I was thinking about sending Pearson Judkins and wanted to see if he thought that was enough to get it done or if that was too much. I don't know if I'd want to do that. I think. I think the guy considers it. I'm not sure that he pulls the trigger. What do you think? As a resident packers fan, Fitz, would you. If you had Jacobs, would you listen on Judkins and Pearsall?

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I mean, if I were really desperate at wide receiver, I might be willing to do that. In a league where you have to start three receivers in any league where I have to start only two receivers, I'm probably not taking that sort of downgrade at running back to add Pierce all.

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Yeah. I think if Judkins has a big week, I think then you can make the push. Put that out there, see what the guy says. Try that. I like that, baby. Billy, if you got to figure it out. Yeah. Re. Re. Ask your thing. Lando, though. We're gonna go to Lando first of the Calrissians Premium member. What's up, Lando? Join the thing. Lando, please come up on the thing. Lando, can you hear me? Yes, what's up?

[A]

All right, Awesome. I just sent my team in the chat. Appreciate you guys taking the time. Somebody offered me Waddle and Travion for Cam. Scatter Boo, any thoughts? So wait, you get not doing it.

[B]

Wait, hold on, hold on. What was it again? It was you get who and who.

[A]

Waddle and Henderson for you just immediately.

[B]

Said you're not doing it.

[A]

Nope.

[B]

I am. Let me. It's not lightning round, but let me look at his team. I just need to glance at the team real quick. He's got AJ Brown, Pickens, bench is. You got Trey Benson on the bench and McLaren is hurt. I don't know. I would consider it. I don't. I think that's a very strong fair offer. But Cam definitely has the upside that's hard to trade. So that might be the problem there.

[A]

I don't believe he's the guy right now. We don't know what Henderson's usage is going to be week to week. Like Scatter Boo is the guy and I think he's the truth man. Run dual run catch value. Like he is going to be a cultural tone setter for the Giants for this team. It's funny, they've got the two first rounders, Darts and Abdul Carter. And I think in a way, like maybe Scatterboo is even like more consequential than those guys are for this team.

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Forks up out here in Arizona. Asu, ribs and cheese. What's up?

[A]

Some guys standard scoring, so just need a couple guys to fall into the end zone. RJ Harvey or Kyle Menongai and then Waddle or Addison.

[B]

Harvey and Waddle.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

Okay, that was easy. That's good stuff there. I've mentioned Harvey before too. Commission. Come on down. What's up, dude?

[A]

So I got two quick questions. One's quicker than the other, so I'm gonna start with that one. I dropped my teams in the chat and the first team I actually already traded Justin Jefferson and Crosby Merit for Flowers and Breeze Hall. So I have a friend offering me Ricky Pearsall, Travis Kelsey and IU Manor for George Kittle Strange and CJ Stroud. Would you guys make that trade in this league? And I need wins now.

[B]

What do you think, Fitz?

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I'm sure you're getting Pierce all. And who else? Pierce all, IU Manor and Travis Kelsey.

[B]

Yeah, I mean right now I have.

[A]

Strange as my starter. I have Drake May as my starting quarterback. Stroud's just a Backup and Kittle is. I'm waiting for him to come back off ir obviously. Yeah, I mean yeah, I. I do it even though Travis Kelsey is not looking great. But like yeah, that's what I was worried about. Kelsey is an upgrade over what you got at tight end and Pierce all is someone you could actually use. Like I'd play him over Ridley instantly. So I'm. I. Yeah. You need wins.

[B]

We accept. All right. What was number two?

[A]

Number two was in my dynasty league. I'm two and one and I keep having issues with Jaden Daniel possibly not starting. I have dart and Darnold already. I have that team in the draft but I'm really thick at running back. I got a lot of depth on.

[B]

Running back so people are offering me.

[A]

Trades for Jade Javante Williams. Would you guys trade Javante Williams who IU Manor and a future draft pick of my choice possible first or would you guys trade Javante Williams for Baker Mayfield or just stick with what I got and ride.

[B]

So you question there, Fitzy. What do you think?

[A]

Yeah, I mean you're. If you're a contender, I guess you just kind of stick with it. And if Javante means something new now, like if you're not a contender, if you don't think you have a serious chance at winning a title this year, like I'd take see if you could get like I o manor and a 2027 second. Forget about 2026. It's going to be a. I think it's going to be a pretty lousy draft class and 2027 is going to be a bonanza. So I would see if you could maybe get I a manor in the 20:27 seconds for Javante.

[B]

Baby Billy. Let's try this again. What's up, Baby Billy? I see that. I see that mute button. The bottom there's a little microphone. Unclick that microphone, Baby Billy. Please don't do this to me, Baby Billy. All right, you did it again. Waiver wire. We only got a couple minutes. Super lightning round. Super lightning round. Waiver wire Premium member. Sup?

[A]

Hey, can you hear me?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

All right, so I got a couple questions. Four point qb.

[B]

I got Fields or Kyler Murray?

[A]

I was thinking Fields. Want confirmation?

[B]

Fitzy. Yeah.

[A]

I'm gonna have Fields just ahead of Murray.

[B]

Okay, what's question number two?

[A]

Oh, that was. I'm sorry.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[A]

Oh, was it? I'm sorry. I didn't even realize.

[B]

So the other.

[A]

I'm trying to get to upgrade on tight end. I got Hawkinson. I'M trying to trade with the guy that has Tyler Warren. He wants Jackson Smith and Jigba. I'm trying to give him. Try to roll with McMillan instead. I mean, should I. Should I just bite the bullet and give him and Jigba to get another word?

[B]

Hell no.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

Hell, hell, hell no. Hawkinson, just like we had the same thing before. Wince is going to target the hell out of Hawkinson. He loves his tight ends. Hawkinson is solid here. Don't trade massive. When you have a tight end like Hawkinson, don't trade away your great depth at wide receiver, especially not jsn. It's number two in the ranks this week. Absolutely. Do not give up JSN. I'm not giving up McMillan. I know people want Warren. Hawkinson's fine. Okay, we agree. Yeah. We're both like, no, no, no. Don't do it quick. Don't jck. Last couple here.

[A]

Hey guys, I just have a quick question. Would you guys drop either Pacheco or Godwin for Woody Marks half PPR looking for rest of season outlook?

[B]

If I would, it definitely wouldn't be Godwin. It would be Pacheco. But no, I would not. Well, I do want to get Woody Marks, but not at the expense. I don't think of Pacheco, but what say you, Fitz?

[A]

I feel the same way, Welsh. I just. That Texans offensive line is so bad. I just don't think there's going to be any needle moving value from any running back in that backfield.

[B]

Agreed. All right, let's try to get at least two more mlp, sup, mlp, MLP back half of the show. We've had a rough fourth quarter. We started out really strong.

[A]

It's been tough.

[B]

Our scripted drives were good. Just everything was really good. And then just fourth quarter fumbles. Illegal.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

100 just sloppy football dead the head. What up? What's going on? Oh, there we go. I thought we had a false start, but we had all 11 man on the field. What's up?

[A]

No problem.

[B]

I. I have my, my, my team in the chat.

[A]

But real quick, just make it JCM or, or. Oh crap.

[B]

Oh. Or Travis Hunter and I have to cut. Oh, Jesus. I was about to say the other guy. I would still go Hunter and GCM here, I guess.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait. JCM versus Hunter and you can only keep one?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I can only keep one.

[A]

Yeah, I'm getting rid of.

[B]

Okay. You would have founder. Okay. Did you have another question? No, no, no. That's it.

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

Thanks, brother. Sweet, sweet, sweet let's see Corey atv we already had you brother. Corey. Hey how's it going guys? What's up man?

[A]

Just a quick question.

[B]

I'm trying to trade away Dobkins as.

[A]

Well as AJ Brown for Quinton Johnson and St Brown.

[B]

I'm sorry, did you say Dobbins and AJ Brown to get a mod Brown and who? Quentin Johnson on the Chargers. What do you think Fitzy? I think I. I think I kind.

[A]

Of like it reasonable. I think it's a fair deal and if you have running back depth and can afford to get rid of Dobbins I. Yeah, I mean it's reasonable.

[B]

Yeah the Dobbins side is. Is tough but I think I would do that. It's. It's fair though and a flex. I think like Quentin Johnson and Dobbins could score similar. Junio. Junio the best. What's up?

[A]

So I so someone dropped Calvin Ridley.

[B]

So but I also have a look.

[A]

Ale miner and I have column guy I'm trying to figure out who I should drop. I mean I just don't even want to bother with both of the like pick a lane on the Titans receivers like that's just a headache waiting to happen. You know you don't want to have to decide between those guys.

[B]

So you would drop IO Minor for Ridley?

[A]

No, no. I just like I'd keep IO manner Ridley is having some weird drop issues like things haven't looked right. I think I a Manor might just be the better player.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like I would drop Manangai but also like if some Mananga is getting more usage that stuff Matt, what's up Matt? What's up guys Got me? Yeah, we got you dude.

[A]

Okay, two quick ones. Would you trade BTJ for Jamar Chase and then the second trade would you. You would be receiving Jamar Chase on that one and would you send Trey Benson to receive Ashton Genti?

[B]

Yes and yes.

[A]

For me I'd rather much rather have Chase and I would much rather have Genty. Okay we're not even close on either of those.

[B]

All right. I was going to end it the last one but baby Billy says he's got this We've got to end a 4th down conversion baby Billy 4th down conversion to win the game. Hut. Hut. Blue unmute your mic said and sprital brutal way to I'm devastated to in like that we just. Baby Billy is this Derek Henry fumbling the ball? We tried again we got. We had a false start. Oh baby Billy. Baby Billy go into the settings and check it out stopped at the one that was it put people saying, put me in, coach. We gotta go. I love you guys. You guys are hilarious. We'll be checking the chat here. We didn't even get to the chats. Why we tell you guys rock with us in here. So many questions trying to get to so many egg boys saying the tush pushes in. You guys are hilarious, dude. You guys are killing me now. This is funny. We'll monitor the chat. You put your stuff in the questions. We might even try to get a couple right after the show here. And that's why you guys should come and hang out with us. Fantasypros.com chat Sometimes we do the after show where we bring you still on answer more questions. It's just not recorded. You guys can be here live hanging with us. Love having you part of the personality. And listen, we got baby Billy said, my bad. It's embarrassing. Listen, guys, there's always next week. We might need some new personnel. We're going to have some tryouts. So come in here and let's get some first downs. We're here for it. And let's get some extra points because that's what the show is all about. That's Pat Fitzmaurice. I'm Chris Welsh. You guys did awesome. Thank you so much for hanging out. Good luck this week. Know that we got tons of offerings for you if we didn't get your questions here. We love you friends, but we'll talk to you next time right here on Fantasy Pros. The extra point.

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