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Chris Welsh
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Andrew Erickson
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Chris Welsh
Yeah, no, it's been a minute, I think since we've been on the Extra Point together. So I still haven't watched Face off.
Andrew Erickson
Unfortunately, you know, that was the next question that was going to happen.
Chris Welsh
So, I mean, unless somebody wants to step up and write the betting pros primer for me, this is not going to happen in the near future. So I know that we're all busy right now. So I'm trying my best, but unfortunately can't get the wife to watch it with me because we have a list queued up of Halloween movies that we have.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, my God. So wait a minute.
Chris Welsh
Hold.
Andrew Erickson
Hold on. You just were like, oh, I'm so busy, and I got the primer. And then you're like, but listen, Nightmare Before Christmas is way ahead of it. So we can't watch.
Chris Welsh
Well, not that. Not that specific movie. That movie is a. That movie. Classic. Not watchable. What? Not good. It's not a good movie.
Andrew Erickson
Dude, you just sink in every week. You just sink further down. So you won't watch Face off because you have a list of Halloween movies, and you just said Nightmare Before Christmas is trash.
Chris Welsh
I don't think it's very good. I like some of the songs in it.
Andrew Erickson
This is Halloween, Halloween.
Chris Welsh
That one's.
Andrew Erickson
That one is in this town we call home.
Chris Welsh
All right, I won't get stuck in your head. And then when they kidnap the Santa Claus, that one's pretty good, too. But besides those, like, couple songs, like, the plot, the story, it's kind of all over the place. I think there are better movies like this. Probably.
Andrew Erickson
Probably. You would know if you had watched.
Chris Welsh
I can't confirm nor deny because I have not seen it.
Andrew Erickson
Can you tell me we're going to get to the football, so everybody that's, like, freaking out, like, it's 60 seconds and you have it. We'll talk about football in a second.
Chris Welsh
What.
Andrew Erickson
What is one Halloween movie you are prioritizing over? Face off right now?
Chris Welsh
Watch Beetlejuice. I thought that was really good.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. Did you like the new one? Beetlejuice? Beetlejuice.
Chris Welsh
I'm not. No, that's the next one.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, yeah, that's Face. Okay.
Chris Welsh
I watched the original, which I thought Michael was like, all right, it's pretty good.
Andrew Erickson
I'm not your judge and jury, so you watch Face Up. Maybe you could watch it in little 5 minute increments. What a great way to watch that movie would be is just like, watch it over, like, a month in just 5 minute increments and do that.
Chris Welsh
Can I watch that 2x speed. Speed. Would that work?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Chris Welsh
Do you.
Andrew Erickson
Do whatever you want.
Chris Welsh
You do it.
Andrew Erickson
All right. We're not here to talk about Beetlejuice or. I mean, we are kind of here to talk about Beetlejuice and Face off, but we're more importantly here to talk to you guys. That's what's cool about this show. It's not just, like, answering questions or when we do the live streams where we're reading it off. We want to talk to you guys. We do have a chat function in here. So if you're like super scared to talk and hear your voice or whatever, you don't have to. But we do prioritize those hand raises and we are going to do so and we're going to kick it off with Eloy. Kick off the show. Don't talk about Thursday Night Football. We love you. What do you have? Hi.
Chris Welsh
Hi, man. Oh, my God, that's so. That's amazing. Greens from Mexico. I'm sorry, I'm Mexican. Well, I'm a big fan of you guys, so I have a couple of questions for you. So nice to be in the show. I have never expected to be here. Sorry for my English, but Will. Hi, how you doing?
Andrew Erickson
We're doing great, man. Don't worry about it. What do you got for us?
Chris Welsh
So I am in a 12 man full PPR league. I'm not having a bit of a trouble because Bucky is injured. So currently I'm going to tell you, my team is Trevor Lawrence, Bian Robinson, Christian Yonkins, Jason Smejigba, Sekora McMillan, Tucker Kraft, Rico Doddle, Jake Bates and the Petrie's defense. Right now I'm in a bit of a dilemma because I don't know if I should play Rico Dowdle or not. I'm trying to place him in a flex spot, but I'm probably going to change him for Mike Evans who is expected to be, well, you know, recovering from the injury. So what do you think? Should I play Judkins, Bian and Dowdle or Judkins, Bian or Evans?
Andrew Erickson
It's a good. That's, that's the tough one. I was just working on my ranks today, Erickson, and I just keep staring at Dowdle and like, I just want to keep pushing him higher, but Chuba back just. Yeah, I know there's a finger put going down here after those, those workers.
Chris Welsh
It's hard to not want to start him. You know, I, I mean, you got to start Mike Evans against the Lions. Yeah, I, I mean, if he's playing, he's good to go. Mike Evans, he knows how to come back from hamstring injuries. Like, because he gets a hamstring injury.
Andrew Erickson
A lot of experience.
Chris Welsh
Yeah. So. So when. Yeah, I'm not really, I'm not really concerned about, oh, well, he's going to repo. It's like. No, like he misses like a month every year with the same hamstring injury, comes back balls out because he has to get to a thousand yards every single year and he's facing the Lions massive total. So unless there's like news with, oh, Hubbard's out completely or Evans, he's not going to play. Evans is playing on Monday night. So you do have that kind of factoring in here. So we might not have as much information, but based on everything right now, it looks like Evans is going to play. It looks like Hubbard's going to play. I would roll with Mike Evans.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I agree. Eli, did you have another question? Yeah, I'm.
Chris Welsh
Well, I'm waiting on Lamar and on Marvin Harrison, so I don't know if I should play them instead of my other receivers. I think I don't have to. And should I stream Trevor Lawrence or Jackson Dart this week?
Andrew Erickson
Okay, good question. Thank you, Eli. Trevor Lawrence or Jackson Dart? I am team Trevor Lawrence on this one. I am just staying. We talked about this on the Rank show. We actually did a pretty extensive conversation. Ericson, myself and Pat Fitzmorris about Dart and Fields and all this negative Fields talk. Then it was like bringing in Jackson Dart and it was like, ooh, I don't feel too much better actually, now that I'm looking at it. I guess I do have Dart slightly higher, but it's both two defensive tough matchups. Okay, so you are Lawrence more.
Chris Welsh
I mean, Lawrence runs too. So like, I, I don't think. I mean, Dart has run more, but I don't think that the. It's like a. Oh, well, Dart's gonna clearly out produce him as a rusher. Both guys run. So I think that Lawrence has more weapons to work with. Yeah, the Rams secondary we know can be beat. Just a matter of can. Can Lawrence get a pass off? And even if he's only pressured on 50 of his drop backs, it means that 50 of the time he has time to throw. So you're just hoping he can get enough done. I just. The Denver spot, man, is so tough.
Andrew Erickson
Where do you have dart again? Or did you do any update? Because I have. Oh, okay, good. Because I have him at 20 and I was like, am I. Did I go nuts? That's why I moved him.
Chris Welsh
Because the thing is, like, with these mobile quarterbacks, like, it does kind of make them somewhat matchup proof because if they just take off and run, it doesn't matter like what the defense is doing, but so you have to kind of respect them by putting them at a certain ranking. But if I'm like recommending picks this week, like, I just don't like Dart like he's probably not gonna be the one of you guys again if I have him already. It's like just playing whatever. He has a floor with the rushing, but I don't think it's a ceiling week from him. I do have to say though, I did like the abbey that we had from.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, SpongeBob here.
Chris Welsh
SpongeBob. It's him in the, in the beach episode when he's thinking. And that's like my face when I'm trying to make start sit decisions, when I'm tinkering my rankings to be wrong on Sunday mornings.
Andrew Erickson
And by the way, never apologize. You're. You're a valued listener. The only thing to ever apologize for on this show is talking about Thursday Night Football. That's it. That's the only thing to apologize for everything else. We're game here.
Chris Welsh
We're.
Andrew Erickson
I mean, maybe cursing too because you're gonna cause someone more work and that'll be a problem, but. DMRQ Premium member on Fantasy Pros Discord. What's up?
Chris Welsh
What's up?
Andrew Erickson
What up? What up?
Chris Welsh
What's up?
Andrew Erickson
Okay, so I have ppr Tess Johnson, Christian Kirk or Jerry Judy. Who am I starting? Oh, Jerry Judy. Jerry Judy. You know, it's funny, I'm a little bit more. And this might be end up being wrong. Sterling Shepherd. Ish. If everybody was out. But if Mike Evans is back, Otten is there. Tez has like good high upside play just to like make that big play. But in that grouping there, Judy is still your peppered target guy. And on the ranks episode, Ericsson was a spouting some Judy love. So that's the play there.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, appreciate it. Gotta look at. Yeah, man, the opportunities he's getting in the offense. It's a good matchup for him. I know it is supposed to rain though in this game, so.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, with those hands. That is a little bit of a problem.
Chris Welsh
Jerry Judy drops potentially, but he's still gonna get 10 targets. So.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, four catches to 10 targets will be amazing.
Chris Welsh
That's what it'll be.
Andrew Erickson
Idevo. What's up, Idevo?
Chris Welsh
Hello.
Andrew Erickson
Hello. What's that Avatar too? Is that like. Looks like quicksilver in a Nova uniform or something. What is that?
Chris Welsh
Yeah, yeah, it's a very, very strange comic. Oh, okay.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. Just a random superhero guy.
Chris Welsh
Okay.
Andrew Erickson
What's up?
Chris Welsh
Also Ericson, go watch Face off, but thank you anyways. Got a lineup question and then a quick trade. See if what you guys think about the trade lineup wise. I need three of the four and they're hard because they're all ranked around the same Olave, McMillan, Worthy. And then of course A.J. brown.
Andrew Erickson
This might be like four. That's a murderer's row of the same guys. I might legit. Hold on. I'm gonna look at my ranks because I have three. You said three. I have.
Chris Welsh
So I. I have Nico. So Nico's obviously going in the one.
Andrew Erickson
So.
Chris Welsh
So I need another receiver. And two Flex.
Andrew Erickson
I got three of those guys within five spots of each other. They're all within five. So what is your ranking? It was Olave, Tet, AJ Brown and Worthy. Who's who? You dumping Erickson? I'll tell you mine. In a second ranks, we're going to have different guys. I can already feel it. You're going to say Olave is in or out? Out. And I have Worthy. The lowest of that group, Rashi Rice is. And what do you have? The anticipation is killing me.
Chris Welsh
No, I'm A.J. brown to the bench. Bye.
Andrew Erickson
Oh. See ya. I'm actually fine with A.J. brown going to the bench too. I have Brown and Worthy next to each other. The lowest of that group. But I do have Worthy with Rice coming back. So one of the two amazing wide receivers that you have, you have to bench.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, I was leaning A.J. brown, but I wasn't sure what Ted again saw, so. And then the trade one, I. I kind of picked on the one in five guy, but I traded away Kyron and Pickens and I got Henry and Nico. Just wondering if that's a win loss or. What are we looking at there?
Andrew Erickson
Kyron, Pickens, you got Henry and Nico. I like that. What do you.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, yeah.
Andrew Erickson
I think Kyren and Henry cross cancel each other. I'll take Nico over Pickens, especially with Lamb coming back. I think that's a B plus trade.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, I think. Yeah. I think this is a well executed trade. The Pickens situation and look, he's a cell candidate. Just based on the fact that we don't know what it's going to look like when Mayo comes back with him. They've only played one game together. In that game, Pickens wasn't good. So. So like that matter again in week one. Now does this mean he's going to fall off the face of the earth? Probably not. Like Dallas offense is cooking, their defense is terrible. So he's still going to have his games here and there. But is it going to be to this level where he's wide receiver three? Probably not. So I think that this is a good of selling high because that's the things like, don't sell Pickens for, like, nothing, but, like, get Nico Collins back. That's a good deal. And then, like you said, the running backs are. Are pretty, like, cross cancel. So I think it's a good deal.
Andrew Erickson
You know, what's interesting about that trade is, like, you know, usually we look at trades, and you got to find, like, the logic behind it, but it's like, you know, it's like, similar running backs, maybe similar wide receivers. The crux of that trade to me is the guy that is terrified of Derrick Henry, you know, because, like, you traded Kyron for Henry, it had to be that owner being like, oh, I'm done. So with Henry. And that pushed them to do it, because contextually, Derek Henry over Kyren Williams is easy and Nico over George Pickens is easy. But, like, that guy had to be absolutely terrified of Derek Henry. And I wonder how many people out there are like that right now or.
Chris Welsh
If he has a losing record, too. It's like, I got to move Henry. Henry's on a bye week this week. Like, I got. I need wins.
Andrew Erickson
Good point.
Chris Welsh
Both.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Chris Welsh
The reason to think that. Good point.
Andrew Erickson
Good point. The Ronin Premium member fantasy pros Discord. By the way, you don't have to have Premium to get into, like, the. The room here, like, for the show. You can be a part of it, but Premium gives you access to all the stuff. Just fy people listening. What's up, Ronan?
Chris Welsh
And Premium makes you feel good.
Andrew Erickson
That's right. Exactly. Makes you feel special and, like, you're just a little bit better than the next person. And that's all that we're really looking for in life.
Chris Welsh
Absolutely. So kind of another Evan's question here. So two spots to fill. Wide receiver and a flex spot. Half ppr. If we're all. If we're all thinking Evan's good to go, you know, on a Monday. Do you. Who's the sit between him, Sutton, and Travis? Etn. Etn.
Andrew Erickson
Are you comfortable taking that risk, though?
Chris Welsh
Yes. Okay. Just making sure. I can tell. Yeah, I mean, I can. I can always play Charbonnet if he, like, does, like, not play.
Andrew Erickson
I mean, at least you have something then. Yeah, you have something. I just, like. Like we're doing this on Thursday. I'd love to have a little bit more confirmation. Like, hey, Evans, is. Is Gucci. You know, it's all good. Sorry I said that, but he is good to go. I shouldn't say that. I should not say that word.
Chris Welsh
Well, hey. Well, we have our. Our Handy Dandy are they playing?
Andrew Erickson
Tool, can you give us a percentage with Evans?
Chris Welsh
Is he even on here? Dude. Because he's so locked in.
Andrew Erickson
I mean, I want the tool, by the way. I want the Tool. But I also would like a coach to tell me like Evans is going to play specifically.
Chris Welsh
Coaches don't lie about anything ever.
Andrew Erickson
So no very truthful running was there.
Chris Welsh
Was that Flowers is gonna be on a snap count last week.
Andrew Erickson
Don't believe it. Ronan. Was there any other question or did we hit it?
Chris Welsh
Oh, you got it. I'm sure I'll have something for next week.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. Thanks, brother.
Chris Welsh
Tool. It doesn't have Evans in here yet because the Buccaneers play on Monday. So it's like a day behind with injury reports.
Andrew Erickson
Okay, so when this airs on the podcast. Yeah. The podcast listeners can go and check it out where he's at. Yeah, I mean, and I do see this is actually two hours ago. Evans returning to practice today. This was.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, he was practicing.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, Rick Stroud was reporting that. So not that he's in his gear, he's just running around, but. Oh, there you go. There's actually one with his gear.
Chris Welsh
So.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I guess that does make me feel a lot better.
Chris Welsh
So.
Andrew Erickson
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Chris Welsh
Hey, how's it going guys? I have a couple of questions. I kind of put my line up in the chat to make it a bit easier to follow along because we're running a free flex, like two running backs, two wide receivers. So a lot of guys in there. I am one in five because I keep having guys just unexplicitly give me like single digit points like AJ the first week. And it just carried on with that. My question is a fewfold things. I'm having a hard time getting traits to happen. I'm a bit nervous coming into this week because I'm like, you know, looking at sleeper, I'm like 46% chance win. I'm not sure if like I should drop fields and just hope and like trust Kayla to keep, keep things rolling so I can maybe see how those speculative guys play out with Evans coming back. That's my main question. And also just how would you guys handle this situation where you're kind of like you're stuck. Kind of like you just keep having guys not coming through for you. I'm trying. I feel like my thought process each week is solid, but it's just not like the guys are just randomly hitting. So I don't know if you like looking at my roster there. If you see some guys that you feel a bit safer in the flex box than others or. Sure.
Andrew Erickson
That's like an insanity thing too. Like I had. I think it's in, I think it's in the. I just came back from it, so it took me like three weeks. But in the flex leagues, our mutual friend Jake Seeley does the industry leagues flex leagues and we do like, you know, whatever median and then you play somebody. I had the second most points scored in the league and I faced the third most points scored in the league and I was just struggling and then I just had three monster weeks and came back. It's a little different what you're saying, but my point is, is like that struggle because I look at your team and I'm like, this is great. Like he's starting, he's got Bijan, he's got Bill who's hit, he's got London, Tyler Warren. AJ Brown is a big sore, sore thumb on this team, which clearly looks out here. So to the first question, I'll just answer it because I think I can speak for Erickson. I think you're fine to cut fields when you activate Mike Evans. There's nothing you need to worry about there. You can roll out Caleb and it looks like there's probably some streaming options. When you look at like the roster construction though, flex, he's putting out Ken Walker, Jameson Williams, Wandell, you know this, it's. You would love for it to be a little bit tighter, but he hasn't gotten his production from Trayvon Henderson which would probably help. Is there an applicable thing here? You got a crap wide receiver to Anj Brown, you've got an underperforming, probably third round pick and Travion Henderson, like them's the breaks. But what would you do in this spot, Erickson?
Chris Welsh
I don't know because I really like the team overall. I think I see the boomer bust nature of some of these certain players that we kind of talked about. AJ Brown, Ken Walker, Jameson Williams. So a lot of guys that haven't really been super, super consistent but you know, I think it's just a bad string of luck, to be honest. I don't think there's really much you can do about. Well, I needed to play more consistently. Those just aren't those types of players and I don't think you're going to just be able to flip them for someone that's necessarily more consistent because a lot of times you just need one guy. I mean also you have Bijan and Drake, London like they were on a bye week last week. Yeah, right. So that's going to hurt you and two of like your two best players aren't on your team. So yeah, that's going to be. You're probably not going to win. So I think that your running backs I think are in a good spot. I like having Fields and Williams just, you know, they're two high upside quarterbacks. They both like to run. Obviously you can roll with Williams, but I think Fields and better matchups when he has Garrett Wilson back. Like, I mean he's been a top five fantasy quarterback but then who are.
Andrew Erickson
You cutting when he has to activate Mike Evans? Because by the way Mike Evans will get to go and be his wide receiver too. AJ Brown can go probably be in the flex over Jameson Williams or Ken Walker, whatever. But who are you cutting? You have burden marks, Henderson, Goddard or Fields.
Chris Welsh
So what I would do here is I would trade your Eagles, AJ Brown, Dallas Goddard, like number one. Those guys are working against each other to help you because if Goddard does good, that means A.J. brown's probably doing bad and vice versa. You already have Tyler Warren. You don't need two tight ends. I don't think that you need to have two tight ends. You'll figure you can stream a guy during Warren's bye week, but you're never starting Dallas Goddard over Tyler Warren. So package those up to the Brock Bowers manager who needs a tight end. Hey, you want Dallas Goddard need a monster game? Take AJ Brown upgrade at receiver or running back so you can have a better flex play. I mean Jameson Williams, you could flex this week, match picking the bucks. That's a great spot for him. So that's how I would approach it. If he can't make a trade, then yes, Fields would be the guy that would have to hit waivers to make room for Evans.
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Chris Welsh
Hear me?
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Chris Welsh
Hello. You.
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You. I saw your mute thing go on and I got terrified for you.
Chris Welsh
All right. Am I you could hear me now?
Andrew Erickson
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Chris Welsh
All right, so I have a two parter. It's my running back slot two and then a flex. So the running back to. I can't mention one person, but I have Henderson, Tyler, Edgier and Spears that.
Andrew Erickson
Could possibly go in this week. I don't know who to.
Chris Welsh
Who to put in there.
Andrew Erickson
Spears for me. Erickson.
Chris Welsh
I would do Henderson. Okay.
Andrew Erickson
Never Henderson. But yeah.
Chris Welsh
All right. And then the flex because I have Lamb finally coming back.
Andrew Erickson
So I have Worthy either in my.
Chris Welsh
Wide receiver two spot. So my flex would be probably Pittman or Jordan Addison or I could put one of the other running backs in that spot. So I'm not sure which way to lead.
Andrew Erickson
What was the other running back? I already forgot. It would.
Chris Welsh
If I start Spears, then it could be Henderson in the flex or Jordan Addison or Michael Pittman. For the flex, I would try to play only one of those running backs.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, okay, agreed.
Chris Welsh
I would type Pittman over Addison.
Andrew Erickson
That was. I was going to. But would you play Pittman over Worthy?
Chris Welsh
No.
Andrew Erickson
I don't know how good I feel about Worthy this week, but I will also acknowledge we have absolutely no idea the level of Rasheed Rice this week. It could be limited. It could feel Stefan Diggs week one like, you know, where he kind of comes in in certain packages and Worthy is out there a whole bunch. I'm just worried that Worthy turns into the, you know, four target, three catch with an end around trying to get him going where she. Rice has eight catches. Travis Kelsey has seven catches. You have two stupid catches to juju some other random guy and two running back. You know, like I'm. I'm worried the phase out happens, but it's not like Michael Pittman has been the most the pillar of consistency. So hopefully we got you there. Just do one of those running backs. You got some good wide receiver options. I personally am kind of leaning Pittman is the wide receiver to start over. Worthy, that's where I go. But Ericsson's smarter than me and he says Worthy, so play that out. Play it out, man. All right, next up is Catalyst. These are very dramatic names. Catalyst 12. What's up? Gotta unmute, baby. Billy brought the bad mute juju. I can already feel it. There we go. I see an unmute. Catalyst. Do we have you? 3, 2, 1, and bag sold. If you figure it out, do your Test your settings, raise your hand again and I will bring you back up. Oh, hey, look, it's Ko Kwai. What's that face right there, Erickson? Who's that face of on his emoji?
Chris Welsh
Nicolas Cage.
Andrew Erickson
That's right. From real quick.
Chris Welsh
I would count Face off as a Halloween movie. They are wearing each other's faces.
Andrew Erickson
That's a good point. They're wearing masks. Technically, you could sell your wife on that. They're selling the.
Chris Welsh
Yeah. And.
Andrew Erickson
And you know what you could also say probably holds up better than Nightmare Before Christmas. There's no songs, there's no singing. Just saying.
Chris Welsh
That is true. A lot of guns, action and flying doves.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Chris Welsh
Classic.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, it is classic. What do you got? How's it going, guys?
Chris Welsh
What up now, now, really quick. So I'm able to scrounge up two.
Andrew Erickson
Wins starting out 04.
Chris Welsh
I put up my roster in the chat a little bit higher. I was trying to make a trade. I've got Craft, Kittle, and then Mason Taylor. I'm trying to at least trade away one of the tight ends to this one guy that only has Mark Andrews.
Andrew Erickson
Which is on bye week.
Chris Welsh
Trying to package Craft with Williamson, Jameson Williams for Mike Evans and DK Metcalf.
Andrew Erickson
But he won't come off of Mike Evans.
Chris Welsh
Do you think a straight trade for Kraft and Metcalf would help my team out better?
Andrew Erickson
Oh, you mean like he won? You were trying to get D. We're trying to get DK and Evans. Or DK or Evans for Kraft and Williams.
Chris Welsh
DK and Evans.
Andrew Erickson
Okay, so, but now you're saying I don't think it should cost Kraft and Williams to get dk. I would. I would probably, if I'm doing that center Craft just straight up for DK Erickson.
Chris Welsh
Right, right. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Andrew Erickson
Because you got Kittle. You got. I mean, if anything, you could. I mean, Kittle's injury history can create a little bit of a worry that maybe you want to move off of him. But. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to add a ton more in the trade market. I mean, I see you've got. Let me go back to this. Don't you have Rico Dowdle? Do you have anybody to start? I mean, you don't have good depth. You've got. I mean, no, Erickson thinks Pacheco is going to bounce back. Henderson never is ever getting going. If those guys got going, you all of a sudden just walked into great depth. And then I would. Then that's where I was going to say, like, maybe you could do like a Rico and a craft to try to get Evans in something. But you're also kind of lacking on some debt, so I'm not 100% sure that I'm there. Any other thoughts on that, Ericsson?
Chris Welsh
No. I think you summed it up pretty well. Okay.
Andrew Erickson
Person in the background. All right, you can ask them.
Chris Welsh
I do want to just bring back up the Pittman versus Worthy. I didn't think enough about the Josh Downs concussion, so I'm changing my answer.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, official.
Chris Welsh
Official, yeah. Because Downs probably isn't going to play, so that matters a lot because Pittman, like, his targets have kind of been up and down. Downs has led the team in targets like the last three weeks, but if he's out, the Colts hate Adonai Mitchell. Well, he put himself in the doghouse, so that's his fault. And then Alec Pierce is more of a field stretcher, so Pittman should be able to be the target leader and that would probably put him above Worthy, especially in half PPR where Pittman's also been a touchdown machine. So, yeah, I would change that answer.
Andrew Erickson
Pittman over A.J. brown.
Chris Welsh
Yes.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. That was Chris Welsh asking that question for his ranks for the ranks contest. I was just looking. I was. That's what I did. And I just wanted to hear some confirmation. So I like it. All right, that's a good update. All right, let's get back to it. Will Collins. W. W Collins. I just. I. You know what? I. Major name Will, and it's literally W. Collins. Is your name Will?
Chris Welsh
Yeah, my name is Will. Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. What other W names could have that event? It could have been Wayne Walter. That's it. Are there any other W names? Wondale. Okay, there's a couple. So I. I had a 1 in 25% chance and I hit it. What's up, Will? What do you got going on, guys?
Chris Welsh
I had two questions. Should I be worried about TMAC going against Sauce Gardner? In my flex, I got golden and I got Tez Johnson on my bench.
Andrew Erickson
So, yeah, like. Well, no, the first part of the question you should say, like, yes, that's not good. I'm a little bit worried, but versus the options you gave us. No, I'm not going to start like, I do like Matthew Golden. I'm a Golden. I'm a Golden Stan.
Chris Welsh
But.
Andrew Erickson
But I'm not going to start him over, Tez, because regardless of that matchup, I think you even talked about on the rank show about, I think it was versus man coverages, or maybe I'd say opposite versus man, like, Ted can do some stuff, so I would be worried, but you don't have an option that justifies going over Ted Roa.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, I think the thing to remember, with a lot of these strong cornerback matchups, I think it does matter stylistically who was the receiver actually going up against them. Like, if it's a I win with route running, I need to get open to catch passes. Like, yes, that's much tougher for those receivers to produce against the strong corners. But, you know, Tedro McMillan's not like gaining like five yards of separation against these. Any NFL cornerback, it's just not really his game. So it's gonna be more contested stuff and he can win those 50, 50 balls against Sauce Gardner. So not everyone you start every week is going to be like, oh, a total smash spot. But McMillan's had a high floor basically every single week. And even last week when he didn't see enough targets, he caught two touchdowns. So, yeah, he's the body of work. Has been too good to start him over. Fringier pieces like, Matthew golden has a good game and the coach says afterwards, yeah, well, we're not going to force feed him or anything. So, like, don't get carried away for, like, featuring our best players.
Andrew Erickson
Like, we're glad you got excited, but don't get used to it. So you're like, okay, awesome. Toast. What's up? Toast.
Chris Welsh
Hello, Toast. Oh, toast. So, speaking of toast, okay, do you agree with this? Take here. Welsh is toast.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Chris Welsh
Can you hear me?
Andrew Erickson
Oh, yeah, we got you. Hold on. But we got to get Erickson's toast. Take here.
Chris Welsh
All right, so is toast the opposite of bread, yes or no?
Andrew Erickson
No. Toast is just a result of an act against bread, right? That toast is the result of a genetically engineered modified bread. It's the same thing. Am I wrong?
Chris Welsh
It's not the same thing. If it was the same thing, why would it have two different names?
Andrew Erickson
Well, because it's describing this current state of bread. We don't have a wet bread, we have soggy bread. But I guess the other terms are like bread, but. No, I think toast is just a act of bread. Toast. Do you have an opinion since this is your God given name?
Chris Welsh
I'm a bit toasted. I don't know.
Andrew Erickson
Okay.
Chris Welsh
I don't know.
Andrew Erickson
All right, you got fantasy for you, like football, not bread, please. All right, what do you got?
Chris Welsh
Hey, what's your opinion of Jalen Coker? Is he someone to pick up? I'm looking ahead to Week 8, and about the only guy I can drop unless I play without three wide receivers. Is Hunter from the Jaguars? So I was sort of considering that, but I wanted your take on it.
Andrew Erickson
You were shaking your head as a yes. But when I hear Travis Hunter would be the end result, I don't know. I'm not sure that I'm doing that.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, I think I want to hold Travis Hunter. I. I still. I really don't have a good take on how I feel about how he's. Obviously it's been lackluster, disappointing. I guess it also depends on like, what your expectations were for Travis Hunter coming in the first couple weeks of the season. I mean, he's doing a lot for rookie. I mean, he's playing like more snaps than basically every other NFL player. It's just like a lot for a young player to. To handle. So obviously he's had flashes here and there. I think that it's going to get better though, or if they just commit to him on one side of the football or the other, like, that's not a thing too. So I think if it's Coker for Hunter, I would still rather have Hunter.
Andrew Erickson
I would also rather have Hunter there. People imagine like tuning into the podcast of this like old school Radio and like I get like, I like to talk about irreverent stuff, but I know there's some people just get super pissy about it. But imagine if this was radio and someone just tuned in and we're just like, listen, is toast bread. It's like NPR segment. I think it's important. These are important topics that we're talking about here.
Chris Welsh
I mean, the username was Toast. It's.
Andrew Erickson
It was. I think it was a great question. I'm here for it. Sammy. What's up, dude?
Chris Welsh
Hey, guys. Two quick questions starts it and then a trade. So first, how are we feeling about Kittle this week if he plays against a tough matchup according to the primer in Debro? Or would I be better off playing Mason Taylor?
Andrew Erickson
Kittle. Kittle. Kittle. Kittle. Kittle. Kiddle, Kiddle. Kittle.
Chris Welsh
I don't.
Andrew Erickson
I personally don't care affectionately because DBRO is our brother. I don't care what Debro wrote or has to say about Kittle. If there's anything negative, throw it out the window. It's George Kittle. He's only active because he's good to go. All the targets go. Niners.
Chris Welsh
Great. Great. Another Niners question then. If Kirasal plays this week, would you play him over? I picked up Bourne while he's been out who's obviously been great. Or do you stick with Bourne for another week if you're so being limited?
Andrew Erickson
I don't think Pearsall is going to play. He didn't practice, I think as of today. So if the decision were to come down to it and they said Pearsall is all good, I would play him. But I have borne as a top 30 wide receiver this week because I also think Mack is going to start again. Mack loves Kendrick Bourne. He's a beast. Even if I don't care about Jennings anymore, Pearsall would make it a problem plus Kittle. But I don't think Pearcell is going to play. And I think you agree.
Chris Welsh
Okay. Yeah, yeah. I think yeah, you should roll with Kendrick Bourne. I mean, what else we need to see from Mac Jones and Kendrick Bourne? It's just that's. That's his guy.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, that's his.
Chris Welsh
Perfect. Perfect. Glad I didn't drop them for on waivers then. Trade question. It's a single QB league. I got a manager in this league. Everyone holds two QBs. And I happen to have Dak and Drake May got a manager who's desperate for a qb and I'm desperate at running back because my running backs are like Chase Brown, JCM Sharps. So I need, I need major upgrade there. He has for his running backs Henry Taylor and Cooks. Would you. Would you consider trading, you know, Dak or Drake for Henry or Cook?
Andrew Erickson
Yep, absolutely. Whichever. I mean, I imagine Henry is probably the more likely one they're going to give up at this point, but I think Cook had two slow ones. Whichever they're giving me, I'm moving. But here's the question. Preference. May or Dak Erickson. I kind of think I want to keep Drake May, and I would rather move Dakota.
Chris Welsh
I would rather keep Drake May, but in these situations, I usually just like let the other manager pick. In that way.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, no, I agree with that.
Chris Welsh
That way it's like, well, I didn't get to pick which quarterback he took, so I can't be held liable for the. The outcomes of my, my actions.
Andrew Erickson
Because also the running backs are just such good options. It's just like whatever you want. Yeah, yeah, you pick, pal.
Chris Welsh
They want Dak or they want Drake. Doesn't matter. Just get the running back.
Andrew Erickson
1000%. Agree. Before we get to our last round of questions, we still got a tiny bit more time here. Want to remind you guys to go and check us out on Twitch. Yes, we are on YouTube. Yes, we're on your favorite podcast app and on Discord. But we are also on Twitch. That is the home of the live fantasy pros content. We've got out of bounds with myself, Joe Pizzapia and Scott Bogman on Mondays at 2pm Eastern. Bogman and I at 12pm Eastern. On Tuesdays. We end up doing like two hours of questions. We do Madden. We place the Madden of the upcoming week while we're answering questions. Thursdays and Fridays, you get Seth and Debro. Thursdays at 1pm, Fridays at 2pm and then we've got the Q and A on Sundays, noon Eastern. So make sure you go and check it out. Head over to Twitch TV FantasyPros. Give us a follow. Never miss a stream. Hang with us on the lives Twitch TV fantasypros. All right, JCK Premium member. What's up, jck? Hello, jck. Maybe not. Oh, you know, I forgot. I'm. I got a boot jck. But also didn't come up. Raise your re. Raise your hand. I completely forgot about Catalyst. Catalyst did re. Raise the hand. So, Catalyst, I apologize for not bringing you back up a little bit quicker. What's up? That's why I didn't bring you up quicker. Go to the settings and confirm your microphone. And then I kicked you. But I will bring you right back up. Third time's a charm here. Third down, though you only get four downs, so you're on your third down. It's third and long there. Who's this? Ronan? Didn't we already talk to Ronan? Or is this another Ronin?
Chris Welsh
Yeah, you can drop me off. I had another question. We can get the other guys.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, okay.
Chris Welsh
Well, you can.
Andrew Erickson
What was your question? You're here, Ronan. You're special. What was your other question?
Chris Welsh
So it's kind of a trade question. I've sent my. My lineup into the. The draft, into the chat, and I'm not really. I'm not really sure where I go from here. Do. I mean, I. Do I just hold Pat or do I try to package any of these things to strengthen an area?
Andrew Erickson
Oh, that's like. It's like a team construction type of thing. Those are tough to do on this podcast. You got Dak, etn, Judkins, Evans, Olave, JSN Gibbs. I hear that roster. I say hold. He's also got Bucky. I'm holding pretty dang strong with that team. Because you got some injuries that are taking you out, Erickson.
Chris Welsh
I would only entertained. I like ETN as a sell high right now.
Andrew Erickson
No issue trading him with Bucky coming soon. Yeah.
Chris Welsh
So I would try to trade Away etn. If you can work out a deal to get for to move ETN to get Javonte Williams somehow, whether you're adding a piece like a Michael Carter, something like Jordan Mason, even like I. I love Javonte rest of season. I'm just not that as optimistic about etn. I think that they're valued probably pretty closely, so it might just take a little bit to like get that deal type of done. But yeah, besides that, I mean it's a pretty strong roster overall. You're getting Evans back, so. Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
All right, let's try jck. We got our non working people again. Let's see if JCK is back. JCK is up. Unmuted. First down. Yes. We got you. What's up, dude?
Chris Welsh
Okay, so I wanted to try to check away AJ Brown and one of my tight ends. I put my roster in the chat. Let's try to get one of the Buccaneers players. So I was trying to aim for Bucky or Igbuka on a team that I'm playing next week or I was gonna see if I should trade A.G. brown for Mike Evans or if I should just keep A.J. brown. I mean, trade A.J. brown for Mike Evans.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, but I. I don't think you can do any of the trades you want to do. If you can do them, I think you should do them. I don't think you can trade Mike. I trade AJ Brown to get Mike Evans. I don't think you can trade AJ Brown to get a Buka. You definitely can't trade AJ Brown to get a buck even though he's hurt. So if you can do them, I'm in.
Chris Welsh
You can't trade A.J. brown to trade for an injured.
Andrew Erickson
I'm not saying you can't. I don't think you can. Who would you rather have?
Chris Welsh
I know. I mean, I know what I would rather have.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Chris Welsh
A.J. brown's not injured.
Andrew Erickson
Like if you're playing like a public Yahoo League or something where guys are looking at. Yeah.
Chris Welsh
How far do you think they're away in rest of season rankings right now?
Andrew Erickson
It feels like they're probably positionally like 10 spots at least.
Chris Welsh
There's only one way to find out. Okay.
Andrew Erickson
I mean, book of being hurt does make it more palatable. If this was like. Yeah. Before the injury. It's like, no, that's not happening.
Chris Welsh
So let's see. I should pull this up right now. Wide receiver. They're literally right next to each other.
Andrew Erickson
Really?
Chris Welsh
Yeah. Ebuka is to your credit. He is higher by one spot. So technically you can't actually do that trade. You'd have to add something else. But if you're like one in five and you have Ibuka, like, you can't play him this week. So. Yeah, I think it's worth trying. I sent out the offer.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, no, 100%. You send them out. Any of those that you can do? I'm doing it. I just don't think you can do. All right, this is a third and long for Catalyst here. Third and long. Catalyst Mic problems. Yeah, I know you are unmuted, but we cannot hear you. You got to check your audio settings. There's a setting in Discord, which is nice, by the way. It shows your mic is working. Like you can literally test it. So try to do that. Sorry, my friend. Bucks man, premium on the Discord. A regular on the show. What's up, Bucks man? Also need to unmute.
Chris Welsh
How's it going? Can I hear me?
Andrew Erickson
We got you. We got you. What's up?
Chris Welsh
What's going on? So I'm. I'm in. I'm in a 14, man. It's deep. It's a half PPR league and we start three receivers. So of my third receiver slot, would you start Sterling Shepherd, Iron Manor or Coker?
Andrew Erickson
Oh, okay. That's a good one. Sterling Shepherd. I minor or Coker? I think I have my. I did tell you I was leaning like I like Shepard. I feel like he can play that safety net role where Tez is the big guy. I just don't love that Mike Evans would be back and is going to hog up all the receptions. I think of that list. I think in a full ppr, shepherd might be more of a play because I think he has a better potential for receptions. But I think that it might be. I am minor there, just the big place potential, the red zone stuff. I don't know. What do you say? You're going to say Coker after I did all that?
Chris Welsh
No, I think that. I think the situation is probably just. I think Shepard has like the highest floor of those guys. I think they're all kind of fringy at best. I mean, even if Calvin really doesn't. I mean, Calvin really is not going to play. But like, what if they're just like, let's just stick Gonzalez on Iman Oren, he's basically erased from the game, right? What's the Titans office guy? I guess for me it's like, who do I want ancillary pieces of? Do I want ancillary pieces of Panthers, Jets. Not really fair. Patriots, Titans. Not really Lions. Bucks. Oh baby, like sign me up for just like anything in that game. So I think it is shepherd and if you look at ECR, Shepard is 38. It's like pretty high. So I, I would. I think Shepherd's probably the play. And it's also Bucks man. Like Bucksman comes on every single time and asks us questions about Bucks players. Like he's like baiting us that we're now we're gonna go against this box. Like dude, play your Bucks man.
Andrew Erickson
We're always. Yeah, he bucks at the play. I was gonna ask him does he think he could get trade A.J. brown, Frank Buka, but he said no. And Buka's goaded, dude. Radman, what's up?
Chris Welsh
What's up? Gentlemen?
Andrew Erickson
How are you doing?
Chris Welsh
Doing all right. Just got a quick trade question. Last place team offered me, Waller, Genti and London for Saquon, Debo and Tyler Warren.
Andrew Erickson
Okay, so let's roll one more time.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, Genti, London and Waller or Debo, Saquon and Tyler Warren. And I have Ferguson, but he's not in the trade. Sweet. Easy for me. I think the only thing you're losing in the trade is that tight end. I think you are upgrading at running back and wide receiver.
Andrew Erickson
You think Genti is an upgrade over Saquon?
Chris Welsh
You don't?
Andrew Erickson
No, I think it's like it's equates, it's. It cross cancels.
Chris Welsh
It's. I, I would, I would prefer Genti rest of season.
Andrew Erickson
So London, huge upgrade over Debo.
Chris Welsh
Yeah. London smash. And then again we talked about tight end. You're taking an L getting Waller for Warren, but you have Ferguson so it doesn't matter. So yeah, I think that this is a really good trade to make. I like it.
Andrew Erickson
Okay, I'm down. 10 minute warning. A little not quite lightning round, but try to get our last questions in here from everybody. Joseph's in the house. What's up?
Chris Welsh
What's up? You guys can hear me?
Andrew Erickson
We got you.
Chris Welsh
All right. Really quick Welsh, did you beat Bogman on. On the Madden?
Andrew Erickson
I missed it. Thank you for bringing that back up. No, I. So two weeks ago, just as I want to reference zero time left on the clock, I catch with Chris Godwin a touchdown in the end of the end zone. Jump scream. When we're back in the same situation, it's Lions Eagles, we are down. We're fourth quarter, I have 30 seconds left. Bogman just kicked a field goal or whatever he did, scored a touchdown. He's up by one point on me and. Or I don't even remember exactly what it is, but he's up. And with about 19 seconds left, I threw an interception and the game was over. So, no, I did not beat Bogman. Sadly.
Chris Welsh
My bad.
Andrew Erickson
I'll blame myself for not joining him doing the spread. All right, so I got. I got two questions. I got a start sit and a trade question.
Chris Welsh
For the start sit, pretty much it's just gonna be Fields vs Bo Nix. Who do I start?
Andrew Erickson
Bo. Bo knows Bono's perfect. All right, and then for the trade.
Chris Welsh
Question, would you give up Addison Sutton and Chase Brown for Breece hall and Brian Thomas Jr. I'm pretty deep at wide receiver. My running. My other running back besides Brown is essentially all the Cardinals and Gibbs.
Andrew Erickson
I like it. I know. That's. That made me cringe. I was like, oh, God, yeah, I.
Chris Welsh
Would do this trade.
Andrew Erickson
I'm down. Captain Slap. You seen those slap tournaments? Those things are terrifying to watch. That actually might be the most aggressively. Like, I'm not, you know, I never issue with, like, boxing or ufc. I see those, like, slap fights and I'm just like, oh, no, it's too much.
Chris Welsh
Those are awesome, man.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, it's just too much, though. Yeah. You have never seen it. It's like they're standing at a table, like they're gonna arm wrestle and they chalk up and just boom. And it slap you in the face and you each get a shot. And I think it's to, like, somebody gets knocked out or. I don't know what it is, but it's just. It's absolutely brutal. We should 100 do it on our fantasy pros trip next year.
Chris Welsh
But yeah, the girls ones are just as entertaining too.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, brutal. I saw that one. It was like, girl started crying and she got up and then she slapped her. Like, it's. It's too much. Like, I feel like jaws are gonna break and stuff.
Chris Welsh
Like, oh, across the line a lot.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. You've never seen the clips, Erickson, what's going on with your.
Chris Welsh
I'm not watching the right things on tv.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. What's your Instagram reels look like? Mine are all that type of stuff. All right, what's up, Captain Slap?
Chris Welsh
I got. I got a start sick question and then hopefully a trade question. So the start sit is right now. I got AJ Brown in, but I can also start Born IO man or Tez Johnson. So I'm kind of, you know, it's a dynasty, but, you know, the star sequential question doesn't matter. But Brown has been just disappointing all year.
Andrew Erickson
I mean I personally would be tempted to start Brown over or born over Brown if, if there's no pierasol. But I don't, if I could quite stomach it just because of the talent. I do have A.J. brown over him but if I was super worried. I do think Bourne provides a floor but like we know what the upside of Brown is and we're not. He's not favorable this week. So I would probably still tell you A.J. brown is the way to go. But I do think with no pure salt, Bourne is going to eat again this week.
Chris Welsh
Yeah. Right. I think it's still A.J. brown. I think that it is close. I would say that the Falcons defense is like really good. So that does matter. So like Bourne has smashed the last couple weeks. I think he can still be productive. But will he like go for over 100 yards like a third straight game? Like maybe that's. I know Welsh is like yes, 100% going over 100 yards.
Andrew Erickson
No, I don't, I don't think it's any guarantee. Like this is a tougher defense.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, I think I'd still start AJ Brown.
Andrew Erickson
Just born's gonna get targets. That's my main thing.
Chris Welsh
Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
Where A.J. brown, you're just like, please. All right, what was the other question?
Chris Welsh
So it is a dynasty question but I just need to know what, what is Kittle's value? Like I have Kincaid right now and the kiddo manager, it has Tyler Warren. So he's shopping Kittle. What do I do? Like do I trade for Kittle? I like trying to get rid of them. Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
I mean they don't need them. I'll bet you they're just like they're wanting to have the high return. I just don't know if I'd want to do high return in a dynasty on a 30 plus year old injury prone tight end. I love him but I think it's kind of rental piece. So I'll bet you the cost is too high. And a dynasty.
Chris Welsh
I don't know man. Sometimes these tight ends just like I mean if you had bought Travis Kelce like four years ago when he was 31 or 32 years old, like that was like profit. Now I know they're not the same guy. Kittle is more injury prone I would say than Kelsey has been. But he's so efficient when he's on the field.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Chris Welsh
So I mean a second round pick, rookie second round pick next year.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
Chris Welsh
Kind of like what I was because. I mean, because I think you can get. You can always find young tight ends because most of them are bad. So it's really easy to like add youth to your team. But if you need production, Kittle is. That's all he does is produce. Just.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Chris Welsh
When he's on the field.
Andrew Erickson
All right, last couple of quick ones. This is fourth down catalyst.
Chris Welsh
Did you guys hear me?
Andrew Erickson
Oh, conversion.
Chris Welsh
Oh, thank God.
Andrew Erickson
It works. It's good. Congratulations on the fourth down recovery. You are the Dan Campbell of our. Of our show this week. All right, what do you got?
Chris Welsh
All right, so it's a quick Dynasty trade question. So I currently have in my running.
Andrew Erickson
Back room, Scat, Henderson, Marks, Irving and.
Chris Welsh
Spears is my top backs and I'm sitting on top of the league. I just want to know, should I just sit on Henderson at first or should I just try to sell and see if I'm able to make more profit out of it?
Andrew Erickson
What do you think, Erickson? You're more. You're more believing Ericsson or Anderson's going to turn this around quicker.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, because I think that he's a. I just don't think that he is a bad running back.
Andrew Erickson
He's talented. Super talented. Nobody.
Chris Welsh
I mean, but you have. He's not been playing good at all. Like the first six weeks. None of the Patriots running backs have played good. So I would hold.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. I think I would hold two ribs and GS. What's up?
Chris Welsh
Last two some guys gross Dynasty trade for you. A lot of guys you don't like involved here. First side is Derek Henry Saquon and Chris Olave. And I'd be giving away Kamara, Chase Brown, A.J. brown and Darren Waller.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I'm in. I'm doing that today, tomorrow, yesterday and next week.
Chris Welsh
Erickson, I cosign.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I mean, what are you giving up?
Chris Welsh
A.J.
Andrew Erickson
Brown. Chase Brown. None of them.
Chris Welsh
All the Browns.
Andrew Erickson
All the Browns. What can Brown do for you? Nothing. Nothing. Brown can't do anything for you. Chinser, you get to cap off the show. What's up, dude?
Chris Welsh
Disgusting. Josh Allen by week streaming quarterback questions. Any of these guys better than Stroud?
Andrew Erickson
Okay, can I get. Can I guess real quick because you said it's gross. Your suggestions are going to be. I'm going to guess three quarterbacks. Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, and then Cam Ward.
Chris Welsh
Not Kim Ward. I would never suggest those first two quarterbacks because they might play tonight.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. Not right. Oh. Oh, I screwed that up, didn't I?
Chris Welsh
I did time out for a while.
Andrew Erickson
Timeout. We'll fix it in post one penalty. All right, so who are the actual quarterbacks?
Chris Welsh
Penix Rattler. I don't think I want to play dart. I mean those two are Rogers and I mean other than that, if I just roll a Stroud.
Andrew Erickson
Well, one of them's not gross and we're going to both co sign this. You're going Rogers over Pennix.
Chris Welsh
I have them back to back. Trey Henderson didn't play so I mean he's the Bengals defense is terrible and he's their best defensive player and he's not playing. So I think Rogers is. He's got a high four.
Andrew Erickson
But I think you just took a party foul because that's the Thursday quarterback.
Chris Welsh
Well, you opened up the can of worms because you made a foul.
Andrew Erickson
So I did it. Okay, I I like Michael. Michael Pennock's 49ers defense is absolutely decimated. It's not good. The secondary is okay. They have no pass rush. Penix is relative. I mean also it might be Bijan getting 200 yards. I'm not 100% sure, but you guys did a great job. We got to go because Mr. Andrew Erickson has to go make a super, super important guest appearance on a very popular show. We're very excited for him. So you got to go. So we got to get out of here. We love you guys. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with us. Make sure you come and hang out in person every Thursday at 2pm EAS. You can do it in the Fantasy Pros discord for free fantasypros.com chat. We'd love to have you. We got plenty of other offerings of we got the Rank show that's up there. Erickson and I will be on the Betting Pros Prop show on Friday and then of course, yes, we have live streams this weekend. I will be hosting the Sunday morning one of the Sunday. I have no idea who's with me. It's usually Tom Strachan or Pat Fitzmaurice. But come and ask questions there. We love you all. Have a fantastic Week seven. We'll talk to you next time for Erickson Welch. We're out.
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Date: October 18, 2025
Hosts: Chris Welsh ("The Welsh") and Andrew Erickson
This live Discord "Extra Point" edition centers on answering fantasy football questions from listeners and interacting directly with the FantasyPros community. With the fantasy football season at its midpoint, the hosts focus on tough weekly start/sit choices, rest-of-season player value, trade ideas, and coping with tough roster stretches. The episode is as much about community engagement as it is rapid-fire fantasy analysis, blending humor with straightforward advice.
| Segment | Time | |-------------------------------------------------|-----------| | Podcast Opening & General Banter | 00:00–04:07 | | Eloy’s Start/Sit/Trade Questions | 04:39–08:48 | | DMRQ – WR Start Decision | 09:22–10:18 | | Idevo – WR Dilemma/Trade | 10:24–13:29 | | Ronan – Evans, Sutton, ETN Dilemma | 14:45–15:55 | | Alan’s Team Troubles and Flex Decisions | 16:44–21:27 | | Baby Billy’s RB2 & Flex Call | 24:46–26:11 | | Ko Kwai – Trading Tight End/Jameson for DK | 28:14–30:06 | | Pittman Vs. Worthy Segment | 30:20–30:50 | | Will Collins – TMac vs. Sauce | 31:16–33:19 | | Toast – Jalen Coker Add? | 34:28–35:40 | | Sammy – Kittle & Bourne Start/Sit | 36:08–37:44 | | Captain Slap – Dynasty Kittle Value | 51:17–53:58 | | Joseph – Fields vs. Bo Nix & Trade | 49:32–50:11 | | Chinser – Gross QB Bye-week Options | 55:51–57:04 |
This episode of FantasyPros’ Extra Point edition is all about strong community engagement and practical, situational advice as fantasy owners navigate bye weeks, injuries, and trade deadlines. Listeners can expect both wisdom and laughs—along with candid reminders that bad luck and tilting weeks are part of the journey. The Discord live format brings fans into the conversation, making it one of the most interactive episodes to date.
For detailed advice tailored to your roster and league, visit FantasyPros My Playbook or join the FantasyPros Discord (fantasypros.com/chat). Tune in next Thursday, 2pm Eastern, for another live Extra Point Q&A!