FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast: "The Extra Point: Rest-Of-Season Evaluations, Tough Weekend Decisions, and Chat Q&A" (Ep. 1813)
Date: November 1, 2025
Hosts: Chris Welsh & Andrew Erickson
Episode Overview
This episode of "The Extra Point" centers on navigating the crucial mid-season stretch of fantasy football—addressing trade strategies (with emphasis on Dynasty formats), rest-of-season evaluations, start/sit conundrums, and live audience Q&A. Welsh and Erickson deliver actionable advice through real Discord chat questions, covering specific players' values post-injury, optimal trade thinking, under-the-radar waiver options, and custom roster dilemmas. The hosts keep it insightful and interactive, blending analysis with the show’s trademark banter.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Halloween Kickoff: Candy and Disappointments
00:32–04:13
- The show opens with quick banter about Halloween favorites and worst trick-or-treat handouts, establishing a lively, personal tone.
- Erickson's take: “My go-to Halloween candy is Reese’s. Chalk pick, probably the one.” [01:31]
- Both joke about weird handouts—fruit, toothbrushes, and hand sanitizer—tying this into the week’s theme of avoiding fantasy “tricks.”
Dynasty Trade Value: Josh Jacobs, Drake London, Navigating Injuries
06:08–09:35
- Josh Jacobs for a 1st in Dynasty?
- Welsh and Erickson agree a 2025 first is a fair price for Jacobs if competing for a championship. Concerns about the “calf injury” aren't sufficient to sour the deal.
- “We love collecting picks and rookies, but you still want to try to win at the end of the day.” — Erickson [06:33]
- Drake London’s Rest-of-Season Value
- Despite London’s recent hip issue and inconsistent QB play, both caution patience.
- “I have no interest in moving off Drake London…he still can be an alpha WR. Maybe he’s not a top-five guy.” — Erickson [07:56]
- Welsh points out the logical alternatives are unsatisfying: “I don't even know what it would look like…for me moving off of him.”
Trade Negotiations: When to Walk Away, Running Back Targets
09:44–13:38
- Audience member “BucksMan” can’t line up a fair trade for Chase Brown; hosts stress not to force bad trades.
- “There comes a point where there's so much push and pull and it doesn’t flow...there are just some trades that won’t happen.” — Erickson [11:14]
- If desperate for RB, try pivoting to Jalen Warren instead—advice rooted in keeping opportunity costs in check.
Dynasty: Dealing With Inactive Leagues and Trade Resistance
13:38–15:54
- Welsh and Erickson vent about inactive dynasty leagues and the dangers of “forcing” trades.
- “When you force trades, that’s where you start moving a Mecca Egbuka for Chase Brown. I don't want to force the trades.” — Welsh [14:17]
- Stay patient and proactive: “Sometimes the best trades are ones where it’s a no-brainer…if not, better to just stay pat.” — Erickson [15:16]
Start/Sit & Waiver Q&A: Live Discord Chat
Various timestamps (17:26–31:41, see highlights below for specifics)
- Manangai vs. Dowdle: Erickson generally favors starting RBs vs. Bengals, but Welsh likes Dowdle for his passing game upside.
- “Just play running backs against the Bengals.” — Erickson [17:53]
- Matt Golden, Rashard Smith, Trey Benson, Luther Burden: Dropping fringe WRs for higher-upside options encouraged.
- “Golden’s gonna be tough to trust…if I can get Benson, just see what that turns into when he comes back from injury, that’s what I want to do.” — Erickson [21:15]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On the struggle of dynasty depth trades:
- “You could take Achane or Chase and try to get depth, but you’re taking the top off your team...I think I'm trying to win with this instead.” — Welsh [29:25]
- “I don't always like trading for depth anyway, because usually it’s one or two guys every week that makes you win or lose your lineup.” — Erickson [30:04]
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On targeting trade partners who need a TE:
- “Don't aim for the running back—aim for the manager who has the worst tight end and then intuitively figure out which running back you can get.” — Erickson [56:15]
- “This is more of the strategy before the player here.” — Welsh [56:43]
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On waiver wire churn and maximizing value:
- “Waiver wire is dictated by production…if you can, there’s always a chance you can get him back too.” — Erickson on dropping Pierasol for Worthy [24:46]
Start/Sit/Trade & Waiver Decision Highlights
Start/Sit Calls (with timestamps)
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Manangai vs. Dowdle vs. Rashard Smith
17:26–18:58- Erickson leans Manangai (RB vs Bengals theory), Welsh prefers Dowdle, especially for potential pass game uptick.
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RB Waiver/Flex Decisions:
- Rashard Smith vs. Trey Benson (add/drop): Benson preferred if available [19:41]
- Burden for Golden: Golden’s ceiling called “boom/bust”—but Benson is the better speculative stash.
- “If I can get Benson just to see what that turns into when he comes back from his injury, that’s what I want to do.” — Erickson [21:15]
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RB Upgrade via Trade — 2026 Dynasty 1.03 for Kyren/Javonte:
37:51–40:15- Hosts prefer Kyren slightly over Javonte due to contract uncertainties—welcoming a trade only if contending.
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Kareem Hunt vs. RJ Harvey on waivers:
41:22–44:09- Debate over dropping Hunt versus Harvey. Erickson: “Who's the most expendable guy? I just think it's still Kareem Hunt.” Welsh hesitant to drop Hunt if Pacheco injury escalates.
Strategy Advice
- Don’t sell elite pieces for “depth” out of fear — top talent wins weeks [29:25–31:41]
- When a trade doesn’t line up, walk away: Some deals just aren’t worth overpaying for positional needs.
- Prioritize managers’ needs for smoother deals: Especially if you can leverage a positional upgrade the other manager craves (i.e., if they need a TE, dangle that, not just your RB).
Timestamps to Key Segments
- Halloween Opener: 00:32–04:13
- Josh Jacobs Value/Drake London Injury: 06:08–09:35
- Chase Brown Trade Negotiations: 09:44–13:38
- Dynasty Stagnant Trade Markets: 13:38–15:54
- Live Q&A - Start/Sit & Waivers: 17:26–21:15
- Dropping for Worthy/Pierceall: 24:00–26:13
- 1.03 for Kyren/Javonte: 37:51–40:15
- Roster/Upgrade Depth vs. Stars: 29:25–31:41, 41:22–44:09
- Endgame (AJ Brown/Bowers for TE help, closing Q’s): 47:35–51:38
Audience Q&A — Interesting Rapid Fire (with Timestamps)
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Would you send a first for Garrett Wilson in Dynasty?
57:22–59:22- “I would rather trade the pick for a different wide receiver than Garrett Wilson.” — Erickson
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AJ Brown for Brock Bowers trade idea:
49:19–50:28- An outside-the-box move if desperate for a top TE; “This is probably going to be the last chance to buy low on Bowers.”
Episode Tone & Closing Thoughts
Laid-back, practical, and sharply candid as always. The episode is packed with direct player takes, but it’s especially rich in trade/waiver process advice—an indispensable listen for fantasy managers navigating tough, mid-season Dynasty and redraft decisions. Erickson and Welsh’s approach stresses patience, finding the right trade partners, and maximizing weekly upside, rather than panic moves or forced “depth” trades.
Memorable Final Note:
“Someone might put a Justin Fields in your Butterfinger, and nobody wants that, so be careful—and look through your candy.” — Chris Welsh [61:13]
For more live Q&A and interaction, the hosts encourage joining the FantasyPros Discord community—fantasypros.com/chat.
