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Andrew Erickson
What's up, friends? And welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is the fantasy football podcast the Extra Point. I am the Welsh, that is Andrew Erickson, and we are here for you with a live audience that is going to be raising their hands, asking us questions and producing this show. Erickson and I are here with nothing except our brains, our mouths and answers for you. That's it. So you guys got to. You got to bring it. You guys produce the best show ever. Or maybe not, but it's on you. We also have a chat, which we might. We answer some questions from there, but we are just going to be hitting it up on our Fantasy Pros Discord and we would love for you guys to be a part of it in the future. Come and join it@fantasypros.com chat. You can do it for free. There's a bunch of free elements of the Discord. I think you just have to have like the free Fantasy Pros account to sign up fantasypros.com chat. Get in a community with tons and tons of different rooms. Plus we've got like podcasts just like this worm and fits bogs and fits. The first and third Tuesday of every single month is where you guys can find us here, me and erickson, Thursdays at 2pm Eastern. We're always here for you doing the Extra Point. So come and get your question answered and be on the show@fantasyprose.com chat. Hello, Andrew Erickson. How are you?
Chris Welsh
I'm doing fantastic. Big win for the Pats last night hammered the New York Jets. So feeling good, man. Ready for week 11. Trade deadlines are approaching, so kind of nice to kind of shift away from buy low, sell high and just into, hey, rest of season. Like, is this guy going to help me in the playoffs? Do I drop this guy? Apparently it's landmine season where, okay, time to drop Deebo Samuel as a landmine for somebody else. Like, apparently that's like where we're kind of entering that type of territory. So, yeah, ready to chop it up, baby.
Andrew Erickson
Landmine season. I like that. Just completely dumping out on some of the players. Yeah. Not loving Debo. So you guys got ranked questions? We can do that. We're coming off of the rank show that Erickson and I did with Fitzy. Whole bunch more. Whether it's trades, this and that. We've also got tools. If you come in with the inevitable, hey, guys, here's my roster. What do you think I should do? Well, I think you should sync it up with fantasy pros, and it can help you aggregate some of the best stuff. But, you know, there might be some players that are top of mind, and we will get to all of that. All right, let's get to the questions. Let's see where our people are at. And first up on the show today is. Try it. That's a new name. Try it. Come on down and what do you got?
Chris Welsh
And try it.
Andrew Erickson
We got you. What's up, dude?
Chris Welsh
Awesome. Okay. I know you said no Thursday night question. This is not.
Andrew Erickson
This is a. Oh, the. The. God, the fantasy gods are hurting you here.
Chris Welsh
You.
Andrew Erickson
We lost your connection there. You were about to be like, I know you said no Thursday, but you were gonna finagle some version of a Thursday. Don't do it. Erickson's not in the mood. Erickson said he's ready to, like, dump people if they bring up Thursday night Football, so don't even mention a name. But you're also muted, so we would love. All right, there you go. Yeah, we got you.
Chris Welsh
Well, I just traded for Piers hall, and because of a couple injuries and trades, I'm looking at Piersall, Diggs, and Pittman for the rest of the season. I just was wondering if you guys would rank those three for me rest of season. And what you guys think about Piersol moving forward?
Andrew Erickson
Oh, yeah. It is a great question. That had nothing to do with this week. I know you put digs in there. Try it. But you totally did it. So, Pittman, valid question. It's a great question. Pierasol digs Pittman rest of season. Piersol did get into practice this week. I am pessimistic that he's going to play this week in favor of him going next, but there's always a possibility. So assuming we're going to kind of have Pearsall back, Diggs is definitely kind of the alpha as you have been calling it. Pittman kind of feels like the bottom ring of this, but I'm going to rank this. Diggs, pure Sol Pittman. I kind of want to say Pearsall at the top. But I think his injury questions are too great. That's going to be my ranking. What is yours? Andre Erickson.
Chris Welsh
I have it as Diggs, Pittman, Pierce all Pearsall is just hard to age because he hasn't played since week four. I think we still don't know when he's coming back. We don't know the state of the 49ers receiver room when he does eventually come back.
Andrew Erickson
So don't you feel like he's. Don't you feel like he's at least coming back next week if he's like practicing this week and you know what I mean?
Chris Welsh
I think so. Then again, Pittman has also been pretty steady this year. I know that he has a lot of touchdowns, But Michael Pittman Jr. Has been overdue for touchdowns through his entire career. Right. So eventually he was going to have a double digit touchdown season which it seems like is going to be playing out this year. Obviously Alec Pierce has taken on a larger role. We still like Josh Downs. Tyler Warren's obviously the beast. So a lot of mouths to be in that Colts offense. So I do think there's a scenario where Ricky Pierce all could overtake Pittman, but I think it's also coming with a lot more risk where Pittman, you kind of know what you have, right? He's a solid receiver. I think Pierce all maybe has a higher ceiling. I'm not sure if that's. You think that's right?
Andrew Erickson
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Chris Welsh
You can emerge as the number is the number like the clear cut number one guy. But then you also layer in, well, what about Bayou comes back. So Pierce all definitely has way more question marks. So I guess for me it's if you really want to kind of shoot for the moon, I guess it would be Pierce all over Pitman and it's probably a deal you could make. You could probably trade Pitman just to get Pierce. All right now just based on the body work so far, but if you need more of a steady asset, that's Michael Pittman for you and not necessarily Pearsall who has not been reliable this season.
Andrew Erickson
All right, Matty Ships, come on down. Matty, what you got for us? It was a good question. Trey did a great job by the way. What's up, Matty?
Chris Welsh
So I have some tight end questions here. So currently rolling out Ertz versus Miami. Pretty confident about that this week, but after that it's a buy and then it's kind of like a crapshoot. So I feel like after this week don't really want to use them. I picked up Loveland. I also have Theo and Strange out there. My question is, do I just kind of forget about the Miami matchup this week and like, drop Earth for any of Fanon, Theo, or Strange and then just kind of roll with them to going forward? I was also offered McBride for Saquon and Earth, and I don't know if that's something that I should consider. I just can't really look past Saquon's juicy schedule, rest of the season after Detroit.
Andrew Erickson
So, yeah, let's do the pickups and. Well, no, let's do the trade. I'm not doing that trade. I'm not trading saquon for Trey McBride specifically because of who you. One of the guys. You say it's available. Erickson, I feel like you are going to trade saquon for McBride.
Chris Welsh
Okay, so.
Andrew Erickson
So you're shaking your head yes. You're doing that trade, McBride.
Chris Welsh
How many wide receivers are going to see more targets than McBride over the next month?
Andrew Erickson
How about this, Matt?
Chris Welsh
Who.
Andrew Erickson
Who would. Who would your other running backs be once you traded Saquon?
Chris Welsh
This is going to sound ridiculous. So I have McCaffrey, Javante, and then I have Hampton. Jesus. Dude seems like he's going to be fine.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I think you're going to be fine. Okay, maybe I do make that trade. Now that you say that, I mean, McBride's going to have 35 targets this week and.
Chris Welsh
And that fixes your tight end problem.
Andrew Erickson
It does.
Chris Welsh
My only hold up with that is that, like, I felt like the drop off between, like, replacement level, tight end is different than the drop off level of. Because I'm basically going from Saquon to like, Christian Watson or like Keyshawn Booty. So, like, the drop off there, I feel like, is kind of like I'm a little bit worried about that.
Andrew Erickson
That's the only thing I'm still a little like. I don't know if I want to do that. I definitely think you can do that trade. But here's the reason why I, like, don't love doing that trade is you said Fanon out there. I don't. I'm done with her. If. If j. If Daniels is not around, I'm not with Zach Ertz. We're. We broke up. So I'm starting. You said somebody. I'm starting Loveland over him, but I'm more specifically starting Fanon over him. So, like, I would dump Ertz for Fanon right now. If you're uncomfortable making that move, I am with you. I'M a little bit uncomfortable because the one thing you get is you get dominant running backs. Dude, you're going to have McCaffrey, Saquon and Javante Williams, assuming he's the flex. If Hampton comes back, you got a glut of riches. I just, I think you can do the McBride trade. I'm going to say I'm sticking with Barkley. Erickson's making the move. But Erickson, if he wanted to stick with Barkley, would you dump Ertz for Fannin or Loveland or. I guess he has Loveland. But what would you.
Chris Welsh
Yeah. Would not hesitate to dump any of those guys moving away from Earth 1. No part of Ertz don't care. Honestly. Ertz could be playing the Bengals this week and it may not matter without Jaden Daniels. Just, he just doesn't have any, he doesn't have any upside. He's. He's, he's a 36 year old tight end.
Andrew Erickson
Can I ask you something? I was just talking with Scott Bogman about this. I'm just not here for the Mariota rank this week. I just don't like, I don't get it. I understand like logically I understand like, it's like, oh, it could be like a shootout and the Lions and their defense and stuff. No, Mario married. It does have one top 12 finish and it was last week. It was on the rushing touchdown. He's 13 on ECR this week. I can't come to terms with starting Mariota over Sam Darnold. I don't care if it's the Rams. Sam Darnold finds ways to get 300 yards every single freaking week. Golf. Even Aaron Rodgers was bad. But it's like same token, he's got a matchup that looks okay. J.J. i just, I don't get the Marcus Mariota thing and I guess it's the rushing upside. I'm not doing it. Are you?
Chris Welsh
I mean, I got him right where ECR is and hate it. It's. It's. I get why you hate it, but if he just scores a rushing touchdown, then it's, and then he, then he's going to finish. Okay. Right. Just thinking. That's why it's so hard to bet against these rushing quarterbacks sometimes because they can get it done in one easy play. Especially if, let's say they're getting blown out. They don't have. It's not like they're going to take Mariota out of the game.
Andrew Erickson
Right.
Chris Welsh
Like he's going to stay in the game and pick up rushing yards and so I almost feel like you could be proven right process wise. And then you watch the fourth quarter in Spain and Mariota puts a bunch of garbage points and then you feel. You feel icky because I thought the process was right. Fade Mariota. But then you look at the box go, you're like, this isn't fair. But this is how fantasy works. So I agree, though, that I guess I wouldn't push back with Rogers over Mariota. Rogers through for four touchdown if he's in the Bengals, right?
Andrew Erickson
What about McCarthy? Got the Bears.
Chris Welsh
I have McCarthy. I have McCarthy over Mario.
Andrew Erickson
What about Darnold?
Chris Welsh
So I'm there with you with that one. Not Darnold, not against the Rams, not against that pass rush. Can't do it.
Andrew Erickson
Quick passes. Jsn all day long, baby.
Chris Welsh
He also doesn't run, so.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I guess that's true. I don't know. It's just. That's my question, though.
Chris Welsh
No, but I think it's a. I think it's an interesting. Mario is also not like this highly coveted fantasy quarterback. So I. I think that if you are going to take a stand, he's probably a good player to take a stand against. So I. I will tip my hat to you when you finish top 10 in quarterback ranking down with Mary.
Andrew Erickson
Ooh, Do I have my under for the week? I. I've been doing on the betting pro show, I have my weekly under one under and I think. I mean, I'm setting myself up 100 for failure now, but I think I'm three or four straight weeks on at least my under bet hitting. So I will see if there's something with Mariota that I like for the down. Red beard, Red beer. My beard's getting very white. Gray beard here, but red beards in the house. What's up?
Chris Welsh
What's going on, y'? All?
Andrew Erickson
What up? What up? What do you got?
Chris Welsh
So I got. Are we putting RJ Harvey 100 in with JK Dobbins out this week? Is he a smash start?
Andrew Erickson
Not a Smash because it's achieves. But what are the. Yeah, what are the other options? Like, what's the between.
Chris Welsh
All right, I need to start for the flex. Three of them. We got Harvey, ETN Metcalf, Woody Marks, Addison or I could even. And Brian Thomas Jr. If he ends up playing. Okay, you got it, guys.
Andrew Erickson
You got to do it one more time. So because you're starting three, two running backs and a flex.
Chris Welsh
No, they're all flex, so it can be however is needed.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, okay.
Chris Welsh
I've Got it. They run the this Dynasty league. We got four flex.
Andrew Erickson
So starting.
Chris Welsh
You're starting ETN.
Andrew Erickson
Okay, yeah.
Chris Welsh
RV Metcalf, ETN Marks, Addison and Thomas Jr. If he plays okay.
Andrew Erickson
I mean, you got a bunch of guys that are in the same kind of vicinity. I think I'm starting Marks over Harvey right now. And then it's like Metcalf, okay, two spots. I think it's Metcalf, Marks or Harvey. I think that's the decision here. And what do you think, Erickson? You can tell me otherwise if you disagree.
Chris Welsh
But Metcalf, Marks, Harvey for two, because we're start.
Andrew Erickson
You're agreeing like ETN is like, that's the top dog here.
Chris Welsh
Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
Okay, so ETN's our top dog. So now you gotta start DK Metcalf, Harvey, Marks, and you only get two. Marks is, by the way, 23 on ECR. Harvey is 24. Marks has Tennessee, Harvey has the Kansas City Chiefs, and Metcalf is going up against the Bengals.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, this is interesting because I didn't think I would want Marks ahead of Harvey, but I do have them. Frank, back to back, I have Harvey one spot ahead, but as I'm thinking about this in real time. Yeah, man, Marks has already gotten the 80 snapshare work and it's always entirely pop. We talked about this on the Rank show where, you know, we could see more Nick Chubb if it's a positive game script, but we've seen the willingness of the Texans to give Woody Marks all the work, essentially. Whereas Sean Payton can say whatever he wants. He said this week, oh, we're going to give more opportunities. RJ Harvey. Does that mean he gets 10? He gets 10 opportunities instead of seven that he's seen basically every single week. It's funny, Worm. Worm messaged me on Slack and was like, asked me like a start sick question. And one of the guys was Harvey. And I was like, worm, when in doubt, like, don't believe anything Sean Payton says. So I think it's close enough where I'm gonna update my ranks. And I think it is. Marks for me over Harvey and then Metcalf, I think just has a lot of upside. Anytime you face the Bengals, like that is a high outcome potential. Even if, I mean, again, it's possible the touchdowns go elsewhere, but if Rogers throws four touchdowns, chances are Metcalf probably has a. A decent day at the office. So, yeah, unfortunately this is a spot where I want to start Harvey this week, but I think those are other options where I don't think I would be doing that. Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
Even if it was like, you're like, okay, I don't believe Peyton and stuff. It's also a horrifically bad matchup against the Chiefs. Like, that's the other thing on top of it that makes it not great. So maybe he can be involved in the passing game. The thing that Marks has is he's got the snaps. He's got a bad team, of course, but he's also heavily going to be involved in the receiving game. And I'm going to go Marks and Metcalf as well over Harvey. So that would say he's not a smash start.
Chris Welsh
And. And Marks has already. I guess for me, it's like Marx has passed the test already. He's already gotten the snaps. He's already faced the Titans and already played well against them. So Harvey is so much more of a projection where we're like hoping that he sees this bigger role and he's able to overcome the Chiefs more hopium with Harvey than warp Marks, where it's like, dude, as long as they just don't like, give Nick Chubb Like 20 carries, we should be. We should be locking in top 24 production.
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Chris Welsh
Oh there. I almost had that mistake there. Two questions one week 11 one kind of future. Week 11 I got Pearson Olave on by so I need a flex. Do I play Schultz in my flex it assuming he plays or do I pick up? My options are Tyler Lockett, Michael Wilson. Really?
Andrew Erickson
So this is Schultz and the flex or Lockett or Michael Wilson?
Chris Welsh
Yeah. Okay.
Andrew Erickson
I actually kind of like Michael Wilson this week. Boggs likes Tyler Lockett. Michael Wilson is going to be the number one receiver for Brissette against the San Francisco 49ers have a really bad secondary. Schultz is going to get a gajillion targets if he's out there. They want to go Michael Wilson on this one. I don't know if I love starting tight ends. I will say though Davis, Davis Mills loves Schultz and there is Touchdown equity.
Chris Welsh
The.
Andrew Erickson
Him being banged up a little bit worries me, but Michael Wilson is going to get peppered with targets. I have no problem going with Schultz, though. But what do you think, Erickson, who.
Chris Welsh
Do you think has the highest ceiling, would be Wilson against the 49ers if he really can take on the wide receiver one? Because I know the 49ers also are bad against slot receivers, so I know that's kind of like Greg. That's Greg Dorch's kind of no pass rush.
Andrew Erickson
No pass rush whatsoever for Brissette. No line defense. Defense like to. That's a good way you put it. Because the upside is Michael Wilson becomes a true number one, and it's like six for 90 and a score. Schultz is your floor. Cause he's going to get. If he's out there, he's getting eight targets. It might only be, you know, six catches for 45 yards. There is some touchdown equity, so it's a little bit of a risk. But I like the risk of Michael Wilson on this one.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, I agree.
Andrew Erickson
Look at us. Look at these agreeing guys here. Winner is up here with a Michael Penix emoji, too. What's up, dude?
Chris Welsh
What's up, man? I got two flex spots, right? And I have Ferguson, Bowers, and Metcalf. And my tight end one is McBride. So I'm trying to see if I start Bowers and Ferguson or do I slip in Metcalf instead of Ferguson. But Metcalf has just been. It's been rough, dude.
Andrew Erickson
You guys start tight ends, and you have all of them. Your team's got to hate you, by the way. His emoji was just. I was just mesmerized by. It was a velociraptor that just kept, like, coming at us that whole time. But, dude, he's got all the tight ends. He's got three of the top, like, six tight ends on his team.
Chris Welsh
You got to make a trade, man. That's not. That's gonna just be a pain, and especially because you already have McBride. You already have the best one.
Andrew Erickson
You gotta trade Bowers.
Chris Welsh
Yeah. Trade any of them.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I don't hate that. All right. But besides the trade, I think we can kind of agree on that. You're gonna start all the tight ends or Metcalf over. I think I'm gonna go Metcalf over Ferguson in that instance, but it's not far off.
Chris Welsh
Yeah. It's the Bengals, man. Like, you got to start everyone against the Bengals, and someone's gonna score 30 points. Yeah. And if it's what, you know, 33 chance, it's Metcalf. So you got to take that. You got to take that type of upside shot.
Andrew Erickson
What a combination. His emoji was, too. It was Michael Penix and then a velocity or. I don't even know if that's a velociraptor. It's actually the Raptor with the, like, gills that comes out, and I think it spits at you. I don't remember what that one is called, but Raptors and Pennocks and winners. That was. That was a vibe, dude. All right, tcb, what's up?
Chris Welsh
Hey. I received an offer of T. Higgins for Woody Marks. Seems like I should obviously accept it. I am playing this guy this week, and he is pretty desperate at RB2. Other than that. So is there any reason I shouldn't just auto accept this deal?
Andrew Erickson
Okay, let's do a little back work real quick. What are your running backs?
Chris Welsh
The other running backs I have on my roster are Bucky Travion, Hampton, Baydal, and Manangai. This week in particular, I'd start Henderson and Vidal.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, because everybody else is hurt. All right, then what are your receivers?
Chris Welsh
Drake, London, ted, Brian Thomas Jr. Take Higgins.
Andrew Erickson
Okay, but. Okay, yes. Okay, but the last thing. What are his running backs?
Chris Welsh
His running backs are James Cook, Kenneth Walker, Rashad White, Devin Singletary.
Andrew Erickson
Okay.
Chris Welsh
Got a Seahawks problem?
Andrew Erickson
Well, I thought you. I thought there was like, a poison pill type of thing where, like, he was. You were going to say one good player and. And then it was absolute trash. And then you could kind of screw him over with, like, having to start, you know, I don't. Amare D. Markado or something like that. He actually has decent options. Sounds like you need the wide receiver pretty desperately, so I'm in agreement. I'm going to just say yes. I just thought we might be able to finagle this and be like, ah, screw you, buddy. You can't have Woody Marks. You're going to have nobody to start. But he's got dudes to start, so. Better your team. Yeah, better team, dude. No problem. All right, Cordy. Cordy's in the house. What's up, Unmute?
Chris Welsh
Hey, guys. How's it going? Good, dude. Good. So I feel like a trade merchant right now. I've got three trades, and they all depend on one going through. I have a pretty good receiver core and I have. I'm hurt at RB2. So at the end of this, I'm looking to get either Rice or London and turn them into a Javante. For and so my question is, who do you have higher, Rice or London? Rest of season.
Andrew Erickson
Wait a minute, you're going to take Rice and London and then trade them for Javante Williams?
Chris Welsh
So it's Rice or London. It's not. It's.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, yeah, no, I understand that, but you're going to take one of those wide receivers and then trade that wide receiver to get Javante Williams.
Chris Welsh
It's going to be Javante, Sutton, Robinson and Gadsden.
Andrew Erickson
Who's Robinson?
Chris Welsh
Wanda Robinson.
Andrew Erickson
So, okay, so you're going to, you're going to trade this because those, those two receivers are the best players in the trade. So you're going to then take like an elite player and then you're going to do a volume trade to get like Wondale and stuff. So, so is your main question which of the two receivers we want?
Chris Welsh
Yeah, like who would you guys rather have for the rest of the season, Rice or London? Rice, because. Right. It's okay because.
Andrew Erickson
But you're gonna trade away.
Chris Welsh
Oh, one of them. One of them. That's. I'm trying to figure out who I want. Oh, oh, trade London. Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
I'm sorry, I thought you were like trading for one of those guys and then you were gonna immediately trade them for the volume. You will have one of those guys and then you're trading the Correct.
Chris Welsh
Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
Gotcha.
Chris Welsh
Yeah. So my, my receiver core is going to be Almon Raw Rice or London and then whoever I end up keeping, the other's going to go away for Javante and that, that volume deal.
Andrew Erickson
What was. Give me one more time. The guys you were, you were going to get Javante I. Devonte Williams, Cortland.
Chris Welsh
Sutton, Wandell Robinson and Arande Gadsden.
Andrew Erickson
Are you hurting at tight end and running back?
Chris Welsh
Yeah, I had Tucker, he unfortunately went out and so I picked up Loveland and that's all I've got.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. Yeah, I'm just never the biggest fan of those like great elite player for volume type of stuff. Javante is a really great getting there. What do you think about all that, Erickson? You said you're trading London for this, but do you like the idea of that trade and getting of those pieces.
Chris Welsh
If you need depth? Yeah, I think this is always roster dependent whether, hey, I need more guys because I can't score enough points because all my depth is terrible. Usually in a vacuum, we always want the best players. I think it kind of goes without saying, but in this particular instance it's not. You're getting a bag of balls back. Those are all Useful players.
Andrew Erickson
Dadson's a top five ish tight end. Javante is a top 12 to 14 running back.
Chris Welsh
Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
And then he gets one day.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, those guys are. They're not like auto starts, but usually you're starting them every week. Unless, oh, it's a really bad matchup. I got to make a swap. Usually you're starting Sutton and Wandell most of the time. So I think that it's fair. And yeah, I would. I have Rice one spot ahead of London. I like both guys obviously, but rather have Mahomes number one.
Andrew Erickson
I'm glad you said that because it seemed like how you said it. You were like, Rice, like, like that London wasn't in there. And I'm like, I don't know, man. Like, as long as Rice is healthy out there, he's balling out right now. London, London seems like he's balling out there right now. So like, I think there's an argument that London's the top dog, even over Rice. But the offense is better with the Chiefs, of course.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, that's just. That's where I'd rather be. I know that I'm more likely to get burned if I lose Rice. Probably in my homes. And get Guy can throw four touchdowns, 300 yards any given week. Michael Panick's not so much.
Andrew Erickson
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Chris Welsh
Hey guys, what's up? What up, dude? So kind of a similar question to the Michael Penix dinosaur guy. I have a roster where I've got Brock, Bowers and Ferguson. And so I was wondering if it's worth holding on to both of those guys and using one as a flex consideration or if I should trade one of those tight ends away and then if so, which one would you want to trade away? Like, who do you think you could get more for, Ferguson or Bowers?
Andrew Erickson
Well, you definitely can get more for Bowers. Like, I think it's not even in the same ballpark. You can get more, but like, do you want to do that, Erickson? Like, you were adamant because it was McBride, Bowers and Ferguson. This is like a little bit different. If you trade Bowers, you're leaving the elite tight end market. You're still a great one, but you're leaving the elite tight end market. If you keep Ferguson and trade Bowers, or I guess if you do the inverse, Ferguson's just not going to come close to the return that Bowers is going to have. And there's maybe an element of like, what's the point of trading? Because Like I think a Ferguson trade is going to look like crappy, like you have to buy like a manangai, like you hope he's going to bounce back or something like that. So what's your take on this?
Chris Welsh
I think I would probably trade Bowers in this situation because you're going to get more for him. And although I agree that Bowers is a tier above Ferguson on a week to week basis when Dak Prescott is your quarterback, we've seen Ferguson put up elite weeks. So it's not the consistency level that is with Bowers, but you could argue that with Geno Smith the consistency is not even there with Bowers. We have two games. Last with Bowers is one with three touchdowns where he was an absolute monster and then one with one catch for 31 yards. So I think that I would rather kind of take the roller coaster with Ferguson because I've just seen the ceilings with Dak and that can be really helpful in the fantasy postseason where you can still dud out with Bowers because he's attached to the Raiders and Geno Smith and they're banged up offensive line and going back to what you get more for, you're gonna get a good asset back for Brock Bowers where to your point, you're not going to get really much for anything for Jake Ferguson because it is a little bit more of a crowded receiver room in Dallas. So that's what I would do and I would just go to you'll get the most for Bowers if you find the weakest tight end manager. That's how you do it. You don't look for a player. We talked about this on the trade show with Worm. It was actually with Bucky Irving and it's no. Or with Rashad White it's no. You're not trading Rashad White for a certain running back or wide receiver. You're trading Rashad White to the Bucky Irving manager because that's where you're going to get the most for him. And in this case you trade Brock Bowers to the team that has the worst tight end. So whoever lost Tucker Craft, those are the types of trades in the types of approaches you should do that. So that's what I would recommend.
Andrew Erickson
Would you take George Pickens for Bowers.
Chris Welsh
So you can double down on the Dallas guys? I think that's probably the right ballpark. Probably have to think about more Nico Collins. I don't want Nico.
Andrew Erickson
You want George Pickens over Nico, right?
Chris Welsh
Jalen Waddle Waddle would be the ding ding ding. Right answer.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. And then, like, egg buko would obviously be a yes. So Waddle might. What about lad?
Chris Welsh
Yes.
Andrew Erickson
Okay, so swim in the lad waddle waters for. For bowers if you're doing that. So there you are. We worked it through. Great. Great job.
Chris Welsh
Fun fact about Lad, you know what his real name is? His real name's not Lad. No, his real name is Andrew.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, is his real Last name not McConkey?
Chris Welsh
Is it McConaughey? No, his real last name is McConkey. His middle name is Lad. But apparently him and his, like, siblings, they only go by their middle names. Weird.
Andrew Erickson
That's it. There's a baseball player out here in the Arizona Folly guy, and his name is Parks. And I was like, is that short for Park? My son's name is Parker. I'm like, is that short for Parker? He's like, it's my middle name.
Chris Welsh
And I was like, oh, it's just.
Andrew Erickson
The name thing is so weird.
Chris Welsh
Kids these days. Kids these days, like their first name. They're like, call me by my middle name.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, well, there's also. I got this. There's this baseball player named Bubba Chandler, and someone had texted me. They're like, do you know Bubba's real name? And I'm like, the only Bubba I know is my buddy Casey. Bubba. And his real name is Brian. And I'm like, is it Brian? And he's like, you'll never guess. It's Roy. I'm like, how do you go from Roy to Bubba? Like, those nickname. Those middle nicknames, they really throw you off there. But you know what? You want to know a fun fact? Scott Bogman goes by his middle name. His real first name is not Scottish. So there you go. Even us oldies are out there.
Chris Welsh
You're not gonna tell me, though.
Andrew Erickson
I'm not. I'll tell you off air, but I'll tell you off air. People gotta guess. But his. Yeah, behind the scenes here, but it's not. Who did you just say what was, lads? Andrew. It's not Andrew, though.
Chris Welsh
Andrew. Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
How did he get to Lad? What's his middle name? Lad? Andrew Ladd McConkey.
Chris Welsh
Yes, that's his full, official name.
Andrew Erickson
I'd have thought Lad would have been short for something. Latifan Latifer, something like that. Maybe it's Jorge. Jorge's the lefty is up. What's up, Jorge?
Chris Welsh
Hey, guys. So since dialing in, you guys have helped me be 8 and 1 in the last three weeks. Yo. Nice solid advice. So kind of going from desperation to playoff Hunt. So I'm going to paste in my lineup quick. This is the league. I'm five and five in and it's like a seven way tie for second. Okay. So what I'm trying to figure out is good news with Bucky potentially coming back. I'm not expecting him to be back this week. So stuck with K9 and Sharbs as RB2 options. Don't love either given who they're up against this week. So trying to figure out if it makes sense to look elsewhere. So I have some options for you. There's Spears available, Tucker and Singletary. Would you pick up any one of those three versus run canine or sharps as your RB2?
Andrew Erickson
Nope, I don't like any of them. Singletary is just speculative with where the offense is going to go. You got to throw K9 out there. That's my. I mean Sharp's got some touchdown equity, but I'm. I'm throwing Ken Walker out there. Erickson, you agree?
Chris Welsh
Yeah, I think that it's going to be a probably a different type of. Because the last two games you've seen from the Seahawks have been two blowouts. So against the Rams you're expecting more of a back and forth type of contest where look, I think Ken Walker's still the best running back on that team. I know that the fantasy points haven't really followed that and I think Charbonnet is good at certain things in his own right. But if they're in a trailing game script, I feel like they're going to need their most explosive players on the field and I think that is Ken Walker. So he can always rip off a big play and they might need him a little bit more and they won't be able to just kind of bag Zach Charbonnet with some of these red zone opportunities. So I definitely would K with Walker.
Andrew Erickson
Only slight one. Jorge, I might look into and this has to happen. I'm still not sure if I love it, but if Bam Knight doesn't play, I kind of don't hate Demarcato. If he's alone in that backfield against the 49ers, that might. So if he's floating out there, that might be one I look at.
Chris Welsh
Do you have a middleman? Do I have a middle name yet?
Andrew Erickson
Okay, well I asked that because I don't know if I ever told this story before my dad passed away before I was born. Very sad. Two months before I was born. So like I didn't, you know, I didn't obviously know my dad and stuff But I remember looking at, I think it was birth certificate, one of the certificates. Not trying to be all downer here, but there's a joke to this. And I'm looking and. Because my middle name is his first name and. And I'm looking to like, you know, see the stuff. And I look and I see his middle name. It says nmn. So for about 10 years I thought his middle name was Nimnin. Nimnin. I come to find out Andrew Erickson, that means no middle name. And I thought I was like, I wonder if the family side was Nimnin. Where did nimnin come from? NMN is not a middle name. And a poor 10 year old did not know this. So I went a long time being like, that is such a fascinating middle name. It's just no middle name. So there's some people that have no middle names out there. I don't know anyone that doesn't except for Nimnin.
Chris Welsh
That's funny. It's such a, like a child, like a child mistake. Like, such an honest, like, mistake. Like nobody directed you in the other direction until like, no saying it. And then people's like, is there something wrong with this?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, well, like, it wasn't like I was like asking the question. I looked, I'm like, that's so interesting. Then, then, and then I just kind of kept it to myself. And for a long time I just kind of rolled with that. And then, you know, then you find.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, yeah. It's like, if no one's going to tell you otherwise, like, how are you supposed to know, like, what is right and what's wrong when it comes to that? You just, you read it, you thought, oh, that's interesting.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. And I never, I've. I've never heard anybody else that has had that specific story. So that is a very Welsh specific story. Story for Nimnin. Yes.
Chris Welsh
I bet you're not the only one.
Andrew Erickson
If someone that's going to admit it though, no problem. Yeah, I would love to know if someone ever else has ever had that and thought Nimnon, please let me know. So I don't feel like the singular idiot of the world. Otherwise I will just be on a world of my own. Sorry, Jorge, I booted you off. Yet another question.
Chris Welsh
No, you're good. So the other one is, I know Auden. Auden was pretty solid for me last week, but this week maybe not as much. Trying to figure out if I should stream Fanon, Ninjoku, Musgrave or Freemouth compared to Auden. If you're the pick. One of those guys.
Andrew Erickson
Was that your last one before I boot you?
Chris Welsh
I. I have one more.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. I'm always a quick trade. One too many.
Chris Welsh
Too much volume. He's saying too much volume.
Andrew Erickson
Phantom would be the one I'd be interested in, but yeah, Otten's gonna get too much volume there, especially if Godwin and Bucky are still out. Like, we're still kind of wheels up with Odin for sure. What was your last one?
Chris Welsh
Got it. All right, so last one. I've kind of pulled together a dream team right now, and I'm trying to consolidate for the playoffs. So at running back, I've got Genti, Javante, Dowdle, and then Sharbs wide receiver Jefferson, London, Rice, QJ and Olave. I'm trying to figure out where to consolidate because I'm going to the playoffs. I have an option to pick up Chase. They're asking what I can offer. I'm thinking, would Jefferson and Dowdle be too much or do you think maybe Chanty and Alaven be worth it?
Andrew Erickson
I like a gentian Olave Rico and. And Jefferson is way too much. You're borderlining like lateral movement with Jefferson to Chase. I know Chase gets like a slight bump, but to give up like a top 10 running back, that's too much. Gentian Olave is a pretty slow start there and see where they. They go with it. Because if you give up Jefferson, you shouldn't give up a whole lot more. And really, frankly, I think the point of that would be to like, try to pair Jefferson and. And Chase together.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, get the LSU connection. Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
Okay.
Chris Welsh
Team morale matters. Right? That's why you got to add guys onto your injured reserve that are just like vibes. I mean, Tucker. If I make to my fantasy championships, I'm putting Tucker Craft on IR like he's coming with me.
Andrew Erickson
I feel like our pros trip is to New Orleans. We should all have just Chase and Jefferson jerseys. That's what they should get us. What would you pick?
Chris Welsh
Chase?
Andrew Erickson
Jeff? I'll take Jefferson. I'm a Jefferson guy, so let's go. I can't like gritty or anything like that. We're not going to do that. Nimnon. Nimnin. No, no gritties for me. Out of bounds on Mondays, 2pm Eastern. It's Bogman, myself and Joe Pizzapia and it's on Twitch. Twitch tv. Fantasy pros. And we're not the only show in town. Me and Bogman, we got one to two hour streams. 12pm Eastern on Tuesday. Seth and Dbro got you Thursdays and Fridays at 1 and 2pm Eastern, and then Sundays we're back for a Q and A right before kickoff on the Twitch at noon Eastern. Go to Twitch TV Fantasypros. Give us a follow. Don't miss any streams. Get your questions answered live. More ways to interact, have fun with us. And it's kind of like a uniquely different experience. So come and check us out over on the Twitch today. More questions, man, less ness. What's up?
Chris Welsh
Hey, guys, can you hear me?
Andrew Erickson
Yep.
Chris Welsh
Perfect. So I got a trade offer that I'm kind of back and forth on. I'm in a 10 team PPR league and I got offered Saquon Barkley, Michael Pittman Jr. And Tyler Warren for CMC. And George Kittle. I mean, I prefer Warren, but the tight end thing feels pretty much. I mean, even enough. The reason I'm considering it because it feels weird to give up CMC. But I lost Garrett Wilson and Marvis Harrison Jr. Recently, so my wide receivers are pretty weak. I'm currently starting Nico, and I would have to put in Xavier Worthy this week. We've got two running backs, two wide receivers, two flex. So I can flex some RBs, and I've got good depth there. I guess I'm kind of tempted to replace CMC with Saquon if I can upgrade Worthy to Michael Pittman. But at the same time, I'm eight and two. I'm gonna make the playoffs. I kind of want to hang on to cmc.
Andrew Erickson
What do you think, Erickson?
Chris Welsh
I don't hate the idea of the trade. I just don't like these players necessarily.
Andrew Erickson
I knew you were gonna hate the players.
Chris Welsh
Yeah, like, this isn't. Look, I. I think that CMC is not untouchable. I think that you can trade him, but I don't want Barclay as like the running back that I'm then trading CMC4 and then you're getting like Warren.
Andrew Erickson
And he's on a buy this week and.
Chris Welsh
Yeah. And then. Yeah, I just. I think that you should put him on the block and see if there's another receiver you can get instead. But I don't like. I don't like this deal. So. No, for me. Salt.
Andrew Erickson
Salt's back. We haven't seen Salt in a couple weeks.
Chris Welsh
What's up? What's up, guys? I know. I. I put this on my work calendar now so no one will schedule meetings.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, there we go.
Chris Welsh
Don't worry about it, though. We're 7 and 3 and 8 and 2 or something like that. So Let me, let me take your temp on Ricky Pierce Hall. Are we giving him ramp up time? Are we bringing him back? I'm, I'm putting the lineup in but I've got this wide receiver spot and it's gonna like it's Parker Washington, Christian Watson or Ricky so little stuck.
Andrew Erickson
I personally don't like if Ricky's active this week. I have a lot of hesitation but at the same time the Niners seem very hell bent on like we're not going to play guys until they're 100% healthy. Personally I'm probably not putting Pierasol out there if he is active. And I think I would go with Parker Washington with some of the role he had last week. But after that I feel good about Pierasol. What do you think about that, Ericson?
Chris Welsh
I don't disagree with what you had to say. I think that Parker Washington has shown a pretty high floor ceiling combination. He's been a target machine the last couple weeks. We still don't know if Brian Thomas Jr. Is playing. So. Although I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to like if you have to start Pierce all this week if he's playing. But I'm just like kind of looking back at last year with Piercel when he came back from his injuries he had so his first game he played 3 for 21, five targets, no touchdowns and then he missed a bunch of time, came back again, he had one catch for five yards. So I think it's probably more realistic that he is going to have some type of ramp up rather than just be thrown to the wolves and basically do what he was doing at the start of the year when he went over 100 yards in half of his games.
Andrew Erickson
I think it's a heavy on the ground game too by the way. I think this is going to be heavy. McCaffrey, Brian Robinson play action with Kittle like so even if he's active it's low snap counts. So.
Chris Welsh
But, but for an example though, I would play. Would you play Pierce all over Tyler Lockett.
Andrew Erickson
Probably at that point. Like here, that. Okay, here's some, here's some post 30 guys on ECR that I like and I would definitely do over Pierce saw Tez Johnson, that's like a no doubter. I think I would roll Jacoby Myers, I think I would roll Darius Slayton for the deep ball and Jameis Winston.
Chris Welsh
Well he's, he's injured too.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, yeah, sure. And then I think Michael Wilson, like Michael Wilson is one is the number one against the 49ers. I'd rather him than even an active Ricky Pierasol. But if the word came out and they were just like, yo, tell everybody you know Ricky Piercel's back. Like, I'll listen a little bit, but Michael Wilson would be that. Does that help, Salt?
Chris Welsh
Yeah, that helps. And then in that same league at that flex, Sharps just has such a bad matchup. Would you guys look to Tucker, Hunter, or Watson since Dobbs is out and he's playing the Giants, or stick with the goal line prayers.
Andrew Erickson
What do you think, Erickson? I like Hunting.
Chris Welsh
That.
Andrew Erickson
It was Hunt. Yeah.
Chris Welsh
Who was it? I heard Tucker, Watson or Charbonnet? Oh, the wide receivers. Okay. I was like, is there a running back? Oh, Sean. Is it Sean Tucker? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andrew Erickson
Kareem Hunt's at the top of that list for me.
Chris Welsh
Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
That's why I would roll cream.
Chris Welsh
Hunt's like his. His touchdown. His touchdown odds are probably like minus 200 because he always scores.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, well, you want to talk about touchdown equity? Touchdown equity. He's the top of the list over Sharps.
Chris Welsh
That's what I mean. I. I don't know how many rushing yards he's gonna get. Probably not north of like 40, but he's gonna score.
Andrew Erickson
Probably two scores. All right, Salt, thank you for putting us in your work schedule. We expect you next week.
Chris Welsh
All right, appreciate it.
Andrew Erickson
Bye, Salt. All right, lightning round. We got about 10ish minutes. We want to get to as many questions, so let's attempt some lightning rounds if we can, my friends. Ronan, Premium member, Discord. What's up, Ronan?
Chris Welsh
Hey, gentlemen. How you doing? Good, dude. So I got Tracy and my half PPR league of my flex, but would you start them over a Sean Tucker or a Jordan Mason if Aaron was out? Well, I think Aaron's gonna miss.
Andrew Erickson
I don't either.
Chris Welsh
He was limited last week, too, so Mason's not really an option.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I think it's Tracy with a bullet, right?
Chris Welsh
Yeah. He's got snaps and he's got. He's got Jamis. The tide that lifts all boats, James.
Andrew Erickson
That's what he does. W's. Can I do that? I can do that.
Chris Welsh
Look at that.
Andrew Erickson
Rocked it. Chinzer. What's up?
Chris Welsh
Did I miss a Face off question? Have we covered Face off yet?
Andrew Erickson
You know, I almost said it earlier in the show, to be honest with you, but then I was like, I'm going to just let the audience dictate that. But I. I'm pretty sure we're still a big fat no on Face Off.
Chris Welsh
Ericson confirmed.
Andrew Erickson
Confirmed. Any updates?
Chris Welsh
Smile. You could tell.
Andrew Erickson
I know. So like he just doesn't care too. He just. He cares about so many things with you guys. Like he care. He might care more than anybody. He wants quality of content. He doesn't want to take days off. He wants to be here for you guys. Like Erickson cares more than anybody. Except about Face Off. Does not care about Face off. But we'll let him decide. What do you got? Chancer.
Chris Welsh
I bet I know what Erickson's gonna say because I listened to the buy a low sell high wide receiver episode. But Ted McMillan. I probably need a wide receiver. Anybody else I should target besides jmo?
Andrew Erickson
What do you think Erickson? You got any other names? What did Tetaro have to do with this? Because he has Tetaroa or did I lose that? You're suggesting jmo?
Chris Welsh
Of course.
Andrew Erickson
But yeah, I think Ricky Piercel maybe. Oh, you have Ted. Yeah. Ricky Piercello.
Chris Welsh
The. The buy low wide receiver that came to mind is Justin Jefferson. People are losing their minds about Jefferson. Last week because of body language was bad. McCarthy was overthrown him. But don't get it mixed up. We saw McCarthy fuel a wide receiver two overall finish in that game. It just happened to be Jalen Naylor and not just a Jefferson. So he can fuel fantasy success like we've seen it. In most of his games Jefferson has been solid. Jefferson's only caught touchdowns from McCarthy this season. So the schedule of the Vikings is really, really good and I think people are really frustrated and I get like McCarthy real life NFL not great. It has not been good. But fantasy wise he's kind of getting there which is what we care about more than him just being. Oh, is he the Vikings franchise quarterback? Like that's not the business that we necessarily need to be in for right now with this Vikings offense. So I think Jefferson is an interesting buy low because I don't think that you're going to have to pay elite capital to get him when we know he's an elite talent.
Andrew Erickson
I also don't hate DK Metcalf. He's had a couple bad weeks and yeah, and you're coming up against the Bengals. And I think Aaron Rodgers learned a big lesson this week. Don't throw to anybody but DK Metcalf after Calvin Otson just let that stuff just bang off his hands. So DK Metcalf might be another one.
Chris Welsh
I mean yeah, Aaron Rodgers is not petty guy, right? Not at all that against him.
Andrew Erickson
You know the weirdest thing I know it's lightning around. Just real quick. Have you seen these things where like, every player wants to do the jersey swap and he won't do it with them? Like Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor asked to do, like a jersey swap and he just, like, ignored it. What's the deal? He doesn't want to give anybody his jerseys. Just give your jersey, dude. He's blanket in an ayahuasca tent. Like, you got plenty of other blankets. Just give these guys your jerseys.
Chris Welsh
He's hanging. He's too busy hanging them all up in his. His room of darkness.
Andrew Erickson
What is he doing?
Chris Welsh
They're all being hung up in this room that he can never see them.
Andrew Erickson
Making a giant tent out of all of his own jerseys that he won't give to other people. J Mill. What's up?
Chris Welsh
What's up? So try to be as quick as I can. We got guillotine league. Are you trusting travion today? Over. Let's see who else we got. The dunes A btj Ted, because I got. I got two flexes.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, Erickson had to cut you off. Erickson's a rule maker. We said no Thursday questions whatsoever. But also, yes, I would have, but he had to cut you off. Sorry, brother. Erickson's a. He's a rules with an iron fist. And he said any Thursday questions are getting cut. So you must not have been there for you. But yes, I would have done that for a survivor.
Chris Welsh
Yes, yes, he would have done that.
Andrew Erickson
He would have done that. G. Sergio, what's up?
Chris Welsh
It's okay, dude.
Andrew Erickson
He said he didn't realize. Jay. Sergio. Going once, going twice. Dang it. Sold Rice puddin in the house. I'm down, by the way. Guillotine. Four left in the. What's up, dude? Four left in the fantasy pros guillotine league. And I'm one of them. Erickson. I'm one. No big deal.
Chris Welsh
I know you, Joe, Worm and alon and a lot.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, exactly. And we're all. We're going after long because he has Jonathan Taylor on by this week. We're just trying to take him down as desperately as we can. What's up? What's up, Putin?
Chris Welsh
Hey, I have a couple quick ones here for you if that's all right. How are you feeling about digs rest of season? And then would you play Diggs over tet on Sunday?
Andrew Erickson
Oh, it was a third. Yeah, you Digs is trying to yacht put. Yes. And like Diggs for the rest of the season. That's the main question. We like digs rest the season. But how?
Chris Welsh
We just said.
Andrew Erickson
We just said no Thursday questions and we literally got one right after that. NS what's up yo?
Chris Welsh
Thanks guys. Real quick. So I'm gonna paste over my. My roster real quick. Yeah. Got a trade offer. It is 14, man. Very competitive half PPR league. I'm tied for second at seven to three and I'm looking at the playoffs. I have Tet. I have. And I kind of want to get rid of him. I got an offer for Garrett Wilson.
Andrew Erickson
One for one. Oh, and the injuries. I don't think you can do it with the IR stuff, right, Erickson?
Chris Welsh
Yeah, that's the thing. I have Craft, who I have on my ir. It's one keeper and I might keep Craft, but I'm willing to drop him if, you know, I also have other options.
Andrew Erickson
Nah, brother, I don't. I just. I don't think you can do it with Garrett Wilson's injury stuff right now.
Chris Welsh
He re injured his knee. Why would he come back to a team that's dumpster fire? Yeah, like I. No, look, I get T. Mac has been just like a straight up floor play every single week. But the Panthers rest of season schedule is pretty good for receivers and not even because they're. They're facing teams that give up a lot of points to wide receivers. But they're facing teams that should score a lot of points against the Panthers, which forces Carolina to at least have to abandon the run game in some capacity again against the Saints, even though they were losing the game was close enough where they were able to continue like establish the run. And we see rookie receivers break out in the second half of the year all the time. It would not surprise me at all if we see T. Mac finish really, really strong with a couple spike weeks if we just get more pass attempts out of this Panthers offense. So yes, there is a scenario where you can trade T. Mac, but for Garrett Wilson who's in like.
Andrew Erickson
Nah, nah, dude, nah. Brother. Dad, boy.
Chris Welsh
Vic.
Andrew Erickson
Couple more here.
Chris Welsh
Yeah. Quick question. I'm in a 12 team half PPR league. I'm 100 and I got offered CD Lamb for my Igbuka. Wondering if it's. I don't know. I'm feeling like it's a little risky to accept it. What do y' all think?
Andrew Erickson
Oh, baby, everybody loves Igbuka right now. I'm with it. I want CD.
Chris Welsh
I'll just take CD. CDs.
Andrew Erickson
DVDs. I want a CD player back in my car. They don't come with CD players anymore. It's crazy. And I, I want CDs and Lamb for sure.
Chris Welsh
Hoagies and grinders. Okay.
Andrew Erickson
That was easy. Yeah, don't feel scared about that. CDs. This is a great buy. Dirty Dan. Last couple here.
Chris Welsh
Hey guys, just quick question. So I'm in the middle of the field in a 10 man half PPR and I have Jamar Chase on my roster. I have. I have other wide receivers, Olave, devonte Smith, btj. And I'm just trying to get your opinion on how I can boost myself up into top playoff contention with Jamar. Like trying to get Jamar Chase off my roster to increase depth at running back. So like, I want to because it's really hard to ship Jamar Chase right now and I just don't know how to value him with other RBs.
Andrew Erickson
I mean, I think.
Chris Welsh
Do you want multiple running back or one running back?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Chris Welsh
Sure.
Andrew Erickson
Well, I mean by just getting one more running back creates the depth. If you, if he's trading Chase.
Chris Welsh
Oh.
Andrew Erickson
You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, you. You should. The value is at the top. You should be asking for one of the top three running. Would you do. Would you trade Chase for hn?
Chris Welsh
Yeah, I think that's Saint Ballpark. Oh, HN has a. He has his bye week next week though. So just keep. Yeah, he's already had his bye week. That's like the thing. Like, that's why. Dude, I feel like people, people are getting up. People are obsessed with Tyler Aer. It's like, oh, it's taking over. It's over. Bijan, it's dead. He's bossed. I. I think. Yeah, I think it'll be fine. They're facing the Panthers this week.
Andrew Erickson
Like, all right, I think we can get two more here. Mooks Premium member Fantasy Bros. Discord Mooks.
Chris Welsh
Thanks, guys. Yeah. So I got a dynasty trader hold for you. It's a 2 QB empire pot. So all this could be irrelevant, but there's three of us fighting for the last two playoff spots. Been toying with the idea of shopping Stafford to one of the top four teams if I can get a good offer. Which offer do you like better? Either Stafford plus a pick plus like a Pittman or somebody for a CJ Stroud plus a Hampton or Bucky or I guess Stafford Spears, Pittman, Shakir for a burden a Tootin and then the potential of a 27 first.
Andrew Erickson
And this is you just kind of punting and like playing for next year.
Chris Welsh
Or do I hold and make the playoffs and see if I Can make a run.
Andrew Erickson
I like the Bucky one. I don't love Stroud necessarily, but you get rid of, like, what was it? Pittman, Stafford, and there was something in there. If I can get Bucky for future years and maybe a return on the back half of this year, that's the one that gets me going.
Chris Welsh
I think that's one I prefer, too. Although I think I like the Hampton side more than the Bucky side.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, Hampton Fine is fine, too. Whichever side. You want to give me one of those running backs with Stroud, he should be back next week, too.
Chris Welsh
And I think, too, like, it's your league, right? If you want to win for now, like, that's the decision you have to make. Yeah, right. Like, we can't. Like, we're not in the weeds with it, so it's like, we don't know, like, how bad you want it. If you want it this year, then screw next year. Like, win the thing. Like, that's. Play the game.
Andrew Erickson
But if Stroud comes back next week and Bucky were to come back next week, you kind of could almost, like, walk yourself into, like, the depth of maybe making a shot. But it's a great. Yeah, it's a great point, though. Like, you know, you make your final call. But I like that. That one. All right, last one is the Big Booty. Judy, finish us off here. You gotta unmute, though. Don't do us wrong. Big Booty. There we go.
Chris Welsh
Let's see. I'm trying to get waddle. The owner has Kenneth Walker, so I'm trying to send him Charbonnet and Pittman, who's my wide receiver.
Andrew Erickson
4.
Chris Welsh
Is that going to get it done, or do I throw in Rashad White? I don't know. Yeah, Starshot.
Andrew Erickson
I mean, if they want.
Chris Welsh
I don't think that's enough.
Andrew Erickson
I don't either.
Chris Welsh
I wouldn't accept that. So give a bunch of ponies to get the horse.
Andrew Erickson
Get them in the stalls and do what you got to do, man. Get that. Get your horse across the line. I completely agree. All right. That is going do it. That is the show. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with us. You guys want to be on the show in the future, make sure to join the Fantasy Bros. Discord. Fantasy bros.com chat. You can get in the Discord. It's absolutely free. It's free to come and hang out in here and you can ask questions. You want to become a premium member. You get access to everything. We get, like, special contests and stuff, which is fun, private, amas. That's the only way you can get into the AMA with Pat Fitz Morris. So come and check us out fantasypros.com chat that is it. We got more offerings. We told you guys about the twitch shows that are coming up. We're also here hanging for you on Sunday, so make sure you do that. For Andrew Erickson, I am Chris Welsh. We love you guys. We'll talk to you next time. Peace out.
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Date: November 15, 2025
Hosts: Chris Welsh (“The Welsh”) & Andrew Erickson
Platform: iHeartPodcasts
This live episode of "The Extra Point" puts Chris Welsh and Andrew Erickson in the hot seat, answering a rapid-fire assortment of fantasy football questions sourced directly from their Discord community. With trade deadlines underway and playoff implications heating up, the hosts focus on “rest-of-season” player values, tough lineup conundrums, and tricky trade decisions. Listeners get side-by-side rankings, risk-reward evaluations, midseason strategy advice, and plenty of actionable insights—all in the duo’s candid, energetic style.
Topic: How to value key WRs like Diggs, Pearsall, and Pittman moving forward
Listener Q (03:37): "I just traded for Pearsall… I'm looking at Pearsall, Diggs, and Pittman for the rest of the season. How do you rank them?"
Listener Q (06:28): "Rolling out Ertz vs Miami but don't love him after. Should I drop for Fannin, Theo, or Strange? And would you trade Saquon+Ertz for McBride?"
Memorable Quote:
“McBride’s gonna have 35 targets this week and that fixes your tight end problem.” — Andrew Erickson (07:56)
Deep Dive Discussion (09:36): The team debates the streaming viability of Marcus Mariota vs. Sam Darnold or JJ McCarthy.
Listener Q (12:27): Should I smash-start RJ Harvey with JK Dobbins out? Who fills flex spots: Harvey, ETN, Metcalf, Woody Marks, Addison, Brian Thomas Jr.?
Notable Moment:
“If they just don’t give Nick Chubb 20 carries, we should be locking in top 24 production for Woody Marks.” — Chris Welsh (15:59)
Listener Q (19:14): With Pearson and Olave on bye, who to flex: Schultz, Lockett, or Michael Wilson?
Listener Q (21:06): Two flex spots—Ferguson, Bowers, Metcalf (with McBride at TE).
Listener Q (22:53): Offered T. Higgins for Woody Marks. Should I do it?
Listener Q (24:38): Need RB, plan to trade Rice or London for Javonte. Which WR should I keep?
Listener Q (28:31): Hold both and flex or trade one? Which brings more value?
Listener Q (38:17): Trying to trade for Chase. Is Jefferson + Dowdle for Chase too much?
Listener Q (42:12): Would you trust Ricky Pearsall in his first week back?
For more on trades, custom advice, and Discord Q&A sessions, join the FantasyPros community at fantasypros.com/chat.
Tone:
Conversational, energetic, with a healthy dose of sarcasm—and a strong “for the people” vibe as the hosts weigh both upside and practicality in every answer.
For next time:
Tune in Thursdays at 2pm ET for more interactive sessions or explore the team’s live Twitch or premium Discord offerings.