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Andrew Erickson
We are choosing from the number six spot and I am got my fingers crossed that we get training bride because I'm pretty sure the gap between him and Kyle Pitts who is the tight end. 2. Kyle Pitts.
Joey P.
Amazing.
Andrew Erickson
Was closer to Kate Otten at 27 tight end than he was to Trey McBride as a tight end. 1. So when it came to elite tight end, there was only one elite tight end that you could have drafted in. His name was Trey McBride. So hopefully we can land him here in this perfect draft. Picking from the number six. Are you ready to go? Joe, I'll say this.
Joey P.
I think you should take Kyle Pitts on the bench too for that one giant game too because it is the best ball format. So maybe take the second tight end that week. I'm just saying maybe, maybe it might be a good thing to do. But you're 100% right. And Fitzy was right too going into the season. He was not leaving Kyle Pittsford dead and he ended up having some decent moments at one great moment. All right, let's get this thing started here again. You go to fantasypros.com and you can run your perfect draft today. Everything is ready to rock and roll. You go to fancypros.com perfect draft. That's the link. Pretty Easy here. So let's get started here. Andrew Erickson's going to kick us off. All right, Andrew, we are on the sixth pick here. Let's get after it. Andrew, walk us through. Who are we taking first at six, Jefferson Gibbs. Off the board here at four and five. I assume it's Christian McCaffrey time, is it not?
Andrew Erickson
You would assume correct. The number one scoring running back, he stayed healthy the entire season. He took the souls of every other 49er to do it. But Christian McCaffrey stay healthy all year. And look, Joe, I know maybe it's too early to do 2026 ranks, but CMC is going to be atop my do not draft list after he piled up 500 billion touches in 2025.
Joey P.
You and me both, brother. So let's take him now for 2025 one last time before we don't want to take him in 2026. All right, so second here. Feels like Trey McBride. I see him still floating around there. Certainly you see all the landmines of good process gone bad. Let's just take Trey McBride and be done. Although James Cook, maybe he makes it back to us or JSN in the third round. We'll see.
Andrew Erickson
Well, let's get the number one scoring tight end in Trey McBride because that makes us feel good.
Joey P.
It looks like James Cook from our fantasy pros, folks.
Andrew Erickson
And James Cook is still available. People were taking Bucky Irving over James Cook. Chase Brown, although Chase Brown finished the season strong, started out the season very, very poor. So yeah, James Cook is the. The lock of all locks here in the third round to get the all, not the all time, the 2025 season leader in rushing yards. Derrick Henry came very, very close at the end to catching James Cook, but it was not enough. So let's go with James Cook here.
Joey P.
All right, so James Cook, that's how I built my teams too. I think it's in third round. James Cook there. So we're on the same page to begin here. Some quarterbacks still on the board here. Oh, look at Marvin Harrison Jr. Devonte Adams. Interesting. He did miss some time, but he did have a lot of touchdowns in that. We have some late bloomers here with Travion and RJ Harvey. Is George Pickens still out there? He is. Andrew, you want to get a wide receiver here?
Andrew Erickson
Not just a wide receiver. One of the best wide receivers you could have picked, especially when it comes to the best ball scoring format. He had so many. I think he had five top five weeks. Some with CD Lamb, some without CD Lamb, George Pickens making sure that he's going to get paid one way or another this off season. Will he return to Dallas? Joe, I will pose that question to you as we make him our selection here in the fifth, fourth. Fourth round. Fourth round.
Joey P.
All right, fourth round it is. I would star Chris Olave, too. He was a top 10 wide receiver this year and he was a good value. So maybe we'll get him on the way back. But I think he does stay. I think they want him there. Do I think it's the best use of their money? Probably not. But again, Jerry Jones doesn't tend to care about that. All right, so so far, team looking good there. We got the two RBs, McCaffrey, James Cook. We got the number one tight end in Trey McBride. We got George Pickens. So where are we going next?
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Andrew Erickson
I think that your Olave call might make a lot a ton of sense here. Trayvon Henderson, some of these rookie running backslave sense.
Joey P.
Is that what you want to make.
Andrew Erickson
A lot of sense? Well, I mean, come on, you just dropped that on us. So clearly he's going to be the answer here. Definitely not Jerry Judy.
Joey P.
It's not going to be definitely not Jerry Judy. Definitely not Mark Andrews in this range, Not Ricky Pierce. All. Oh, you know, this is like the, it's like going backwards. Of all the things that you did wrong in life and, and look, a lot of it there was good process there and a lot of it, it's just unfortunate. So go ahead, make that selection. Go ahead, Chris Olavius. Let's do it. All right, so Olave it is. I know. Late quarterback. We're going to have opportunities to take some guys. Bo, Nick's had a good season. We have Dak Prescott having some big splash games. We have Drake May also. I know you're flagging him on there. So you want to go back to the rb. Well, or wide receiver. Where do we want to go next?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I'm not sure. We definitely need to hit a specific position. It's just a matter of just avoiding all these like landmine players. That is like basically the entire top.
Joey P.
Like Michael Wilson for later too. He had some massive games too, I think.
Andrew Erickson
I think the play right here is Travis etn. He's the highest ranked guy but in terms of what he was able to turn around here.
Joey P.
Let's do it. Travis atn. It is nice. See, look, there we go. Nice succession meme there. I love the succession. Big fan, Great show. You haven't watched it now. Football season is coming to a close soon. Go watch Succession. Great program. All right, next up here, Andrew Erickson. We're going to go quarterback yet or are we going to wait a little bit longer?
Andrew Erickson
See, I don't mind the idea of waiting longer for quarterback. But at the same time, I don't want Drake May to fall to anybody else. I don't want to give anyone else.
Joey P.
The chance to have 30 seconds. Who are the quarterbacks left?
Andrew Erickson
I mean there's a lot of quarterbacks. Bo Dak, Kyler, Brock, Purdy, Herbert.
Joey P.
All right, let's do one more skill set position player here. So we've got. Let's see. Diggs had decent season.
Andrew Erickson
Dobbins before he got hurt was pretty good. Judkins had a couple big games. He might be oh, Javante Williams. That's why Javante.
Joey P.
Oh, Javante's fine. Let's take Javante. I'm good with that.
Andrew Erickson
That's the play. Let's see how that works.
Joey P.
That's the play.
Andrew Erickson
We just drafted Dallas Cowboys players.
Joey P.
Hey, what do you know? How about them Cowboys? All right, now let's look at the QB board. Who's left? Because I saw Bo Nix and Diggs just went off the board.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, Purdy Goff. I know that we usually do want to draft two quarterbacks because when in the best ball scoring format you it's like the easiest way to capitalize on the amount of points. So if Drake May didn't have a monster week, it gets replaced by another quarterback we had that also had a monster week. So I say we Trevor Lawrence.
Joey P.
Drake May is not on the board anymore.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, man. See, this is what I was afraid of.
Joey P.
Well, look, we have to live in our fears. We got 30 seconds. Let's take Dak and we could take Dak and Purdy or Dak and Golf and do that same thing.
Andrew Erickson
Or Justin Trevor, Dak and Trevor Lawrence. Considering Trevor Lawrence is the QB one since week five.
Joey P.
Dak struggled down the stretch a little bit and Trevor was really good down the stretch. I'm good with that. So you want to just burn all those picks? That's fine. Jacori, Crosky, Merritt and Cooper cup just went. Those can't be good picks. So let's do it.
Andrew Erickson
I know. I mean I'm sure you don't want any Joe Mix in action.
Joey P.
I want Mixon. Yeah, right. I want to talk about the weirdest thing ever. He's hurt. Why is he hurt? Well, we don't know what happened. Well, he went and did something we didn't want to do. Just nothing. Nothing. No information all year. Craziness.
Andrew Erickson
We still need another good so far wide receiver like to fill out our starting roster.
Joey P.
Well, Michael Wilson still 30 seconds. A guy that I want to take here. Looking at the guys that are left. Keenan Allen had a strong start. So do you want to do like a Keenan Allen pairing with Michael Wilson on the way back or you wait longer for Michael Wilson?
Andrew Erickson
I think we can wait longer at this point for wide receiver. So let's go with a 15 seconds. You want to do Judkins?
Joey P.
Sure, but you got to take somebody. Don't want to get auto picked. Do it. Take Judkins.
Andrew Erickson
All right.
Joey P.
Let's take another wide receiver on the way back here. We definitely need more wide receiver help here.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. Pittman, Coleman Higgins, Luther Burden. I mean, he. He really had a late. It took him a little bit time to get going here.
Joey P.
Let's just sort the wide receivers. It'll be easier for us to look at this this way. All right, so scrolling up here. Boy, oh, boy. Just rough times here. Hard times. I don't love Pittman, even though he's the top guy on the board.
Andrew Erickson
I mean, Pittman didn't have. I mean, he was. He had some good weeks when Daniel Jones. You know what?
Joey P.
Let's take Pittman for the first half of the season and let's take Michael Wilson for the second. Just make sure I put him in our queue. This might be the imperfect draft as we're looking at it, but again, if you think you could do better, go ahead. That's why it's there. Fantasypros.com Perfect draft. Go check it out today. It's free. It's fun. You can share it on social media. You can challenge your friends. Trevor Lawrence. You want to go to Trevor Lawrence here? I'm good with that.
Andrew Erickson
If you want to travel big weeks as well. Rico Dow will be the other guy.
Joey P.
Well, let's take Trevor because Rico's lower in the adp.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. I just.
Joey P.
There's a lot of quarterbacks still available.
Andrew Erickson
I think we should go Rico.
Joey P.
I know, but, you know. All right, I disagree. If Rico.
Andrew Erickson
Hey. Well, I tried to get Drake May and you said no, so.
Joey P.
I didn't say no. I just said he was gone. I thought we could get him one more, but you know what? That's fine. Look, see, it likes Rico Loki loves.
Andrew Erickson
My pick at Rico Dowdle. And is Trevor Lawrence still available?
Joey P.
Trevor Lawrence last to us. That's the question.
Andrew Erickson
Yes, he did. He's here.
Joey P.
Okay, so you take one, Andrew.
Andrew Erickson
And now he's here. Now he's. He's joining the squad.
Joey P.
He's joining us.
Andrew Erickson
I love that.
Joey P.
So how many more picks do we have here for the bench?
Andrew Erickson
We have two more and then a.
Joey P.
Defense all right, I would say. I'm going to say Kyle Pitts, take a defense, then take Michael Wilson.
Andrew Erickson
Kyle Pitts. That's what I'm done and done. So we got the number one and number two tight end.
Joey P.
All right, Gatsy Howard likes that pick. All right, let's take a defense here. What's the best defense on the board? We got to take a defense. All right, so we got certainly not the Ravens defense. That's not what we want to take here.
Andrew Erickson
It was it. Who scored the most points, do you know?
Joey P.
Off the top.
Andrew Erickson
Off the noggin.
Joey P.
The top.
Andrew Erickson
Eagle head, actually Vikings.
Joey P.
It was not, I think, either of them.
Andrew Erickson
Why are we picking a defense before another? Why don't we just take Michael Wilson?
Joey P.
Because we get Michael Wilson last.
Andrew Erickson
What's the difference?
Joey P.
Well, there's some deep.
Andrew Erickson
He's the guy we want the most. Oh, Alec Pierce. That's who we should have taken.
Joey P.
Ah, no, no, no, no, no.
Andrew Erickson
All right, well, I'm taking Michael.
Joey P.
25.
Andrew Erickson
Screw defenses. All right, see, we can still get what we can get the Vikings. We can get the best defense in the NFL. The Houston Texans.
Joey P.
Yeah, that's fine.
Andrew Erickson
Okay, they must have scored points and.
Joey P.
They were the highest scoring.
Andrew Erickson
The Texans. Let's go.
Joey P.
Either Texans or the Broncos. I think they were neck and neck there. Yeah, Texans were one, Broncos were two.
Andrew Erickson
One point disseminate between them, I believe 2,627, 44 points. Pretty solid.
Joey P.
Oh, Seattle Seahawks defense pretty good, too. All right, so we got the. Yeah, Seahawks probably would have been another good pick there. All right, so we scored 2,627 points. That's the draft. Not good enough for the leaderboard. The top 10. Top 10. You got to get 27.95 to crack it. So Adams at 10tch. Is all the way number one with 2,800 points there. We got a couple teams in the 2800, so you got to get the 2800 on the leaderboard. Do you think you can do it? Well, go check out the links below here. Support DraftKings too. Make sure you get in on the latest DraftKings opportunity because that best ball for the playoffs look spectacular. Postseason best ball. Yes, please. Over at DraftKings again, 3 million in prizes. Number one prize gets a million over on DraftKings right now. So go check that out. Go scan the QR code. Go play that. And go play perfect draft again. Fancy Bros.com Perfect draft. Andrew, was it the perfect draft? I don't know if it was, but you could See all the it was certainly a good draft. Certainly a draft that would have won most fantasy leagues. I could tell you that much. Isn't it fun to go back and look at all the things that went right and wrong? I would say with this one we probably needed one more wide receiver early. I just don't know what that code was to crack on that what we should have passed on. Do you have any inclination.
Andrew Erickson
No, that's the one I'm kind of thinking about here. I think it may have just been we waited just a tad bit long because we still got great value with the receivers we drafted Olave wide receiver 27 finished wide receiver 6. I know Pittman fell off. Pittman was drafted as the wide receiver 50. This past like that is crazy to think about. And I get that things fell off for him in the second half with Daniel Jones getting injured and the Colts offense kind of spiraling. But still was wide receiver 21 Michael Wilson Michael Wilson was wide receiver 16 with with a couple of those big splash weeks that he had.
Joey P.
You know gotta have him as a best ball. But look it loved our sleeper picks of Olave, Pittman, Dowdle and Wilson. So keep that in mind when you have that. And maybe we should have had another defense. I think that was the trick too. You gotta take do two defenses because you have a bye week. So we might have to punt on another one of those players there. But certainly Michael Wilson. I think in that grouping there I like the way we started was good. Something in the middle went wrong. Maybe we should have. We did draft the two quarterbacks but I think the two defenses is necessary because we had incomplete lineups for the defense for week six and then week 11 we had too many wide receivers on a buy so that was problem. Maybe there was Javante Williams. Could that be the pick that hurt us? Maybe. Maybe at the end of the day that was it. But you got to check all the bye weeks if you want to score big on this and again go have some fun. There's going to be prizes for this too. So go check it out right now@FantasyPros.com Perfect draft. See if you can draft the perfect roster and see all the back end fun the things you went right and wrong with in that and again share with your friends. Have some fun. Fantasy football never ends here on the channel. Make sure you subscribe to Fantasy Pros. That'll do for us. But the story of the game goes on. For Andrew Erickson, I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time kids See if you can have the Perfect draft for 2025.
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Release Date: January 6, 2026
Hosts: Joey P. (Joe Pisapia), Andrew Erickson
In this episode, Joey P. and Andrew Erickson dive into the annual "Perfect Draft Challenge," using the FantasyPros Perfect Draft simulator to draft the optimal fantasy football team retroactively for the 2025 NFL season. The hosts reflect on lessons learned, key player performances, and best-ball drafting strategies. They walk listeners through each pick from the sixth draft position, discuss player values, regrets, and what would have made a true "perfect draft."
“Every year, we have this fun little gadget called the Perfect Draft, where you can go back and relive 2025 by drafting the very best team ... Perfect Draft is brought to you by DraftKings.” —Joey P. (01:04)
"The gap between him (McBride) and Kyle Pitts who is tight end 2, was closer to Cade Otton at TE27 than Trey McBride as TE1. So when it came to elite tight ends, there was only one." —Andrew Erickson (03:31)
a. Round 1 - Christian McCaffrey (RB, SF) [04:46]
"CMC is going to be atop my do not draft list after he piled up 500 billion touches in 2025." —Andrew Erickson (04:46)
b. Round 2 - Trey McBride (TE, ARI) [05:09–05:35]
c. Round 3 - James Cook (RB, BUF) [05:39–06:05]
"James Cook is the lock of all locks here in the third round ... Derrick Henry came very, very close at the end to catching James Cook, but it was not enough." —Andrew Erickson (05:39)
d. Round 4 - George Pickens (WR, DAL) [06:31–06:56]
"Not just a wide receiver. One of the best you could have picked, especially in best ball ... George Pickens making sure he’s going to get paid this offseason. Will he return to Dallas?" —Andrew Erickson (06:31)
e. Round 5 - Chris Olave (WR, NO) [09:49–10:03]
f. Round 6 - Travis Etienne Jr. (RB, JAX) [10:54–11:02]
“We usually do want to draft two quarterbacks ... it’s like the easiest way to capitalize on points.” —Andrew Erickson (13:13)
“Maybe we should have had another defense. I think that was the trick too. You gotta do two defenses ... we had incomplete lineups for defense in week 6 and week 11 ...” —Joey P. (18:56)
"I would say with this one we probably needed one more wide receiver early. I just don't know what that code was to crack ... maybe we waited just a tad too long." —Joey P. (18:14)
“Isn’t it fun to go back and look at all the things that went right and wrong?” —Joey P. (18:10)
“If you think you can do better, go ahead. That's why it's there. FantasyPros.com Perfect Draft. Go check it out today. It's free. It's fun.” —Joey P. (14:37)
"There was only one elite tight end ... His name was Trey McBride." —Andrew Erickson (03:32)
"You have to check all the bye weeks if you want to score big on this." —Joey P. (19:20)
Joey P. and Andrew reflect on the fun—and frustration—of trying to "nail" the perfect fantasy draft, even with all the hindsight the simulator provides. They emphasize strategic flexibility, targeting breakout values, and learning from both wins and missteps. The podcast encourages listeners to try out the Perfect Draft tool for themselves, chase leaderboard glory, and keep the fantasy football spirit alive even after the season ends.
Final send-off:
“Fantasy football never ends here on the channel. Make sure you subscribe ... That’ll do it for us, but the story of the game goes on. For Andrew Erickson, I’m Joey P.—we’ll see you next time, kids. See if you can have the Perfect Draft for 2025.” —Joey P. (19:48)
QB: Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Christian McCaffrey, James Cook, Travis Etienne, Javonte Williams, Judkins, Rico Dowdle
WR: George Pickens, Chris Olave, Michael Pittman Jr., Michael Wilson
TE: Trey McBride, Kyle Pitts
D/ST: Houston Texans
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