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Week 10 Fantasy Football Reactions & Injuries + Early Week 11 Waiver Wire (Ep. 1830)
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Tara Roberts
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Seth Wilcox
All right. And welcome into the Fantasy Pros fantasy football podcast. It's the Week 10 instant reaction show coming to you live right here on the FP YouTube channel. I'm your host, Seth Wilcox. Still riding high from an awesome football Sunday and helping me break it all down from a fantasy perspective is a former news producer turned fantasy analyst. She's Tara Roberts. Tara, how are you? And how are the fantasy teams after week 10? Sitting?
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Tara Roberts
Wonderful. This was a, this was a good week. This was the George Kittle coming out party. Everything has come together. All the wise wide receivers hit. Yeah, this was a beautiful fantasy week. This. I got zero complaints whatsoever about this one.
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Seth Wilcox
I'm glad to hear it. I feel like I can never put together the perfect week where, okay, maybe the fantasy options came through for me that I was betting on, but then the players that actually had hard cold cash on did not come through for me. So always kind of battling the mix and match week. But that's just how it goes in this industry, right, baby?
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Tara Roberts
Exactly.
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Seth Wilcox
All right, let's. Let's jump into things. And tonight's program does look like this. Tara? No Dr. Deepak Chone. But we will still break down the most notable injuries from some of the doc's notes, plus some fancy football ramifications that could come from them. And we're also gonna give you the top five storylines of the day. We're take a trip to the panic meter. Then we'll round out the program with a rapid fire Q and A. So send any Sunday specific questions from any of the action that we saw today and how we can help you. We'll try to answer those for you. And before we jump in, shout out to everyone who's keeping us employed by either joining us on the Fancy Bros YouTube channel or the audio feed. Please be sure give this video a thumbs up if you enjoy this type of content and make sure you subscribe to the channel. If you're new, help us get to 300,000 subscribers by the end of the season. We, we would really appreciate that. And Tara, we did have a slew of injuries, so let's jump right into it at the top here. And it starts with none other than New York Giants quarterback Jackson Dart. He suffered a concussion against the Chicago Bears. Dart already cleared 26 fantasy points in three of his last four games before getting knocked out of this one. It was also a sixth game in seven starts with a rushing touchdown. So someone who certainly puts himself in some positions to be vulnerable to big hits. We saw that on Sunday. Deepak is telling us that a possible return to action is coming here for Dart. It's a 5050 chance whether he misses one week and then returns the next. No production dip typically seen upon return. So Tara obviously potentially losing Dart for the next week. Hertz managers who were starting him, however, what does it mean having Russell Wilson potentially under center here and how does it affect the Giants offense as a whole? Is there anyone you could trust with Russ back out there?
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Tara Roberts
Oh, sadly it's probably only Wandell Robinson. Darius Slayton, you know, had a nice little game here. But unfortun, unfortunately with Russ at quarterback, we. We lean on needing a very specific, excellent matchup. And that is not the matchup that is coming up next week, unfortunately against Green Base. So yeah, it's everyone that's downgraded. There really won't be any usable fantasy assets. Maybe a Theo Johnson perhaps can pull through there as the most reliable asset there. But yeah, we, we just, we gotta hope that Jackson Dart comes back for our purposes.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, I think you're going to be hoping if it is Russ under center next week, especially against Green Bay, that it's like deep balls, right? You're hoping for deep balls, big plays. I don't think the offense will move as consistently as it did with Jackson Dart because he's consistently tucking in running if the first or second reads not there. So I just don't know if he can do that, especially without Cam Scatterable out there. Of course, no Malik neighbors as well moving forward. So it's going to be a different Giants offense. I'm going to prefer not to start anyone if I have to, though I agree with you. Is Wandale Robinson or maybe a Theo Johnson at tight end also here on the injury front we did have Buffalo Bills tight end Dalton Kincaid. He exited with a hamstring injury. Deepak is telling us that the average hamstring takes about 2 to 3 weeks, but really depends on the severity. MRI likely coming on Monday. Rushing back does raise the re injury risk. So the vast Majority will miss at least one game. Tara, we'll talk about potential replacements later on at the tight end position, but do you think Kincaid's absence maybe elevates any other pass catchers in the Bills offense? That looked a bit out of sync here in south beach in week 10.
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Tara Roberts
It did. They looked a little sideways there. Unfortunately in Buffalo, you know, we can always feel like if Kincaid's out, we can turn to Dawson Knox. I mean, he doesn't have that same, that same upside that Kincaid had. Kincaid had been operating at such a high level in games where he wasn't dealing with some kind of injury. I mean, we come to look at him as an extremely reliable volume guy. That was kind of running neck and neck with Khalil Shakir in terms of being the first look in that offense.
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Seth Wilcox
So.
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Tara Roberts
So yeah, you know, potentially you could turn to Dawson Knox, but I don't know if he will be the one getting the exclusive bulk of that workload. Perhaps we get a little bit of an increase there to the wide receivers, but that's a big, that's a big letdown there because Knox had been become a nice little safety blanket there and a deeper threat as well for Josh Allen.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, it's really disappointing because he was kind of the one pass catcher week in and week out that you wanted to start in your fantasy lineups. Shakir, of course, always goes off against the Chiefs. He was great last week, not as great this week. Same with Keon Coleman, who actually did have a bounce back spot for him, but he saw a ton of targets still and then he caught three passes, 42 yards for a touchdown, something like that. So it wasn't great. But I mean, I guess if you have to throw a Bills wide receiver out there, you can play those guys and they might get a little bit of a bump with Kincaid out, but I'm still not, you know, very interested in playing them unless I have to, I think.
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Tara Roberts
So, yeah.
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Seth Wilcox
Another injury here and maybe the one of the biggest on the week too. Tara is New York jets wide receiver Garrett Wilson. He re injures his knee. This is not ideal considering the potential tanking spot that the jets are in right now. They did win this week and Deepak is telling us that while Garrett Wilson did miss two games with the initial injury, this was reportedly a re aggregation of that same knee. This could potentially mean more time and a worse injury than the original. Especially with the Jet season functionally being over, it would be surprising to see him play through next week. So likely no Garrett Wilson in week number 11, Tara. We'll keep up with Deepak to see what else he has to say about Wilson as news comes out. But is there a Jets pass catcher that you can even roster right now? Because I tried rolling out Mason Taylor this week in a couple spots where I was really hurting for a flex. Did not go well. Guy had about one point. So like I'm done with Mason Taylor and I really don't think we can go to the receiver position. Of course A.D. mitchell in there now, but Josh Reynolds on IR. It just feels super gross.
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, I mean in terms of long term and dynasty in particular. I'm excited to see A.D. mitchell. Hopefully he'll be active next week, but I would feel zero comfort in terms of throwing him into a starting lineup. They won the game, but at the end of the day it was still an extremely low volume, underwhelming game from Justin Fields. And despite them winning the game, honestly we don't know if he'll remain the starter. They seem very non committal there unfortunately. So this, this is a all around avoidance except Breeze hall there.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, we got our friend Dredis checking in saying Fields had what like 8 passing yards? Yeah, it was bad man. It was a bad game. I just don't want to be invested, I don't think with the jets really aside from Breece hall at this point. Also here on the injury front we have Denver Broncos running back J.K. dobbins. He is getting a second opinion on a foot injury. It came on that hip drop tackle on Thursday Night Football. Dobbins did return to the game, but he's now getting a second opinion. Deepak telling us that the video did suggest a mid foot sprain. On average it's going to be about three weeks for running backs to return to action. Some reports did express optimism though that which suggests he did avoid the surgical issue that is a Liz Frank injury. So that's great news. Typically those these do take a few weeks to ramp up to the baseline. So Tara, I don't think there is enough information to really speculate on on how long Dobbins will be out right now regardless. So does it mean maybe some more work for RJ Harvey or is this like a Tyler Bidet thing where he gets in the mix and it's kind of just a little bit complicated and not as much of workload as we want for the talented rookie?
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Tara Roberts
Honestly, I do think it'll be a hefty workload for RJ Harvey. I know that feels uncomfortable to say with Sean Payton at the helm. And knowing that he can do 10,000 different things. But in terms of usage, I feel like we've seen a clear shift in the usage of RJ Harvey compared to the earlier season where there was a clear lack of trust that Sean Payton had. He didn't trust him on the field and passing downs overall and the shift to him, him being a extremely reliable and go to guy in the red zone, even if he didn't get the touchdown in this game, he still had pretty significant red zone usage. So based off that, I would expect that level of trust to extend out the red zone into the entire drive there. So yeah, I feel. I feel pretty good about R.J. harvey. If we do get J.K. dobbins out.
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Seth Wilcox
Here, maybe a potential must start. Is that kind of where you'd put him probably in that RB2 range?
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, because the run game has been effective, but unfortunately when you look at the split that they've had recently because of RJ Harvey popping up in the red zone and then the bulk of carries going to J.K. dobbins separately, you know, they were. They had pretty good baselines right and upside with RJ Harvey and the multiple touchdowns there. But if you combine that all together, yeah, you've got an RB one. So if it's narrowed down to Harvey, feel like a must start for him?
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, I think so too. I think that's where I would be. And honestly, it might be a chance that you can still maybe even go buy low form right now because he had a bad game on Thursday Night Football. I think managers are frustrated with him. It's really been the touchdowns that have kept him in contention of fantasy relevance so far this season. I. I think you got to play him though. I think you got to play him. I think you have to go after him and see if you can buy low because someone might not know the severity of the J.K. dobbins injury right off the rip. So I'm in agreeance with you there. Another injury at the running back position, maybe a little less notable, is New England Patriots running back Terrell Jennings. He was knocked out with a knee injury. Tara, while Jennings wasn't a player, fantasy managers were certainly depending on this could open the door for maybe even more work for Trayvon Henderson if Ramandre Stevenson continues to miss time. Is that kind of your observation as well? Of course, we've already had a couple injuries in the backfield this year. Antonio Gibson out for the season currently?
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, my exact thought process there, it didn't seem like Ramondre Stevenson was close to returning. So if he's out and we also have Terrell Jennings out, I feel like that's where we finally get that forced usage in the red zone. We did finally see Henderson, he was, you know, fantastic game. Unfortunately did not get the goal line touchdown when he had that opportunity. But if there was nobody else to turn to, we can at least lock that down here. So yeah, it's good to at least take that away, that factor away of someone else being able to come in at the goal line there and know that we can focus in on Henderson who looked fantastic today.
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Seth Wilcox
I'm with you there. We'll talk more about Henderson later on in the program. Tara, we also had Chris Rodriguez, he got banged up in this one. If he misses any time, do you have any confidence in Bill Crosky merit to become startable because it's his fifth straight game being held under six PPR points. It just feels like with Wal Washington the way their defense is playing they are not in a position to run the ball and run it effectively without Jane Daniels right now.
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, I was a wee bit concerned that when we did have the offense transition away from Mariota at the end of the game we still had Jakori Crosby merit in there. So that was kind of like a. Oh okay. Now granted Chris Rodriguez going out there did make it but it means that you know Jeremy McNichols was the preferred sit and Rodriguez and JCM getting that garbage time work there with the backup quarterback. So yeah, I think it's significant because if you can narrow it down to where they don't have the option to turning to someone else that can at least force that early down usage specifically to jcm. But at the end of the day this offense has to be in a position to compete for JCM to have upside there. They've got to be in a competitive game where they're ahead. So that's the concern there is that Chris Rodriguez going down could open up some, open up some opportunities there but we still need the commanders to compete in a more positive way.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, I think at this point like it really stands. Hey, you're starting Debo Samuel likely if you have him, he found the end zone once again in week number 10. But outside of that like this became one of the most fun fantasy friendly offenses a year ago and it's crazy just what 12 months and a slew of injuries to some veteran players can do for you. So disappointing there and disappointing with all the injuries. Hopefully we'll get more information on that. Again stay plugged into Deepak Social. This week he is at Sport MD Analysis. He'll get you connected with all the injury news and notes that you need and also if you want to get a chance at winning this, sign Justin Jefferson Minnesota Vikings jersey for free courtesy of our friends over@pristine auction.com all you need to do is head to fancyprose.com contest, complete the form and either a download the free Fantasy Pros app, B leave a review for the Fancy Pros fantasy football podcast or C follow us on x Instagram or TikTok. We are at Fantasy Pros. The more actions you complete, the more entries you're going to receive. And we will announce a winner right here, here on the channel. So make sure you subscribe, ring the bell, turn on those notifications so you can be alerted when we have some new episodes and when we announce that winner. So make sure you guys are in there for that. And let's get to the top five storylines of the week. And I think there's no better place to go than overseas where Jonathan Taylor says guten tag from Dublin. 32 carries, 244 rushing yards, three touchdowns on the ground. He also added three for 42 through the air. Good for a 50 burger, 50.1 PPR points. Tara, were you marked safe from JT this week? And if you were to redraft today, are you taking JT at the 101?
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, I think for sure, for sure there. He's been so incredibly reliable. I was not mark safe because I was, I was the perpetrator on that one with JT. Scott Fishbowl, he scored 80 points. That was just the most, wow, stunning amount of points I've ever seen out of a single player. He's just, he's so dominant. I'm 100% behind this, you know, JT for MVP because even when Daniel Jones struggles and we've seen the struggles, you know, Jonathan Taylor is willing this team to victory here. The performance, he's just incredible. He's our version of Saquon Barkley. But the difference is, is that it's on offense with a little, you know, a lesser quarterback in theory. So, yeah, Jonathan Taylor really carrying the load there.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, it's so disappointing. I was talking to a few people this weekend, they're like, man, I was just, you know, one or two years early on jt, right. It was kind of disappointing the last few seasons the path catching went away with Anthony Richardson and it's just insane that what a good scheme and play caller that Shane Steichen is man, like he is just making everything work right now. Really, really fun game for the Colts as a whole. Like Alec Pierce getting involved, Michael Pittman Jr. A little disappointing, but Tyler Warren had a great second half there as well. So I think it's wheels up on jt. I think if we were redrafting today, I think it's him. I think it's him and it's very sad to say because I think I had him outside my top 36 coming into the season. So I will take the L on Jonathan Taylor. I will not take the L though on Good things come to those who wait. Trayvon Henderson breaks out in Week 10. Fourteen rushing attempts, 147 yards, two touchdowns on the ground plus a reception for 3 yards. Some big gainers for Henderson. The explosion we all saw at Ohio State a year ago totals 29 fantasy points, a career high. Tara, do you think things shake out here differently when Ramon Dre Stevenson returns this time? Because Mike Frable still hesitant to trust Henderson while he was out there for 51 of the snaps today. We did see Terrell Jennings get the first couple carries in this one before he got ruled out for the rest of the way. So does Henderson go back to the non factor he was or is he the genie they can't put back in the bottle right now in New England, which is just clicking off wins left and right?
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, I don't think there's any way that they can reduce his overall touches. I think the only fear that we might have is lack of trust at the goal line is probably going to be a thing. So I wouldn't be shocked if we see Ramandre Stevenson come back and get that goal line preference. But quite frankly the touchdowns came without the goal line. When you got that kind of breakaway talent there. Yeah, you're a Jameer Gibbs type. You can, you can do it without being inside the five there. So Travion Henderson wheels up here and then hopefully we retain enough touches when Henderson comes back.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, I agree. Very, very excited for him and hopefully he can just continue to see somewhat of workload. Right. Like it won't be 29 fantasy points, it won't be maybe even 14 rushing attempts. But if he can still live in that 10 to 12 overall touches a week, I think he's a flex viable guy. But maybe still time to potentially sell high because I'm even seeing in the chat here from quite a few people mixed opinions on Henderson. A lot of people bought low on him a few weeks ago. Some are Ready to sell high off this performance, which I don't blame you either way. Yeah. Another note here is we have rookie receivers rising up here. Tez Johnson and Jaden Higgins, they hit this week. Tez Johnson, 4 receptions, 42 yards, 2 touchdowns, 5 targets versus the Patriots. This was a cat that honestly coming into draft season last year I was not very high on. I mean he's a small guy. He's not extremely fast for his size either, but he's making it work. Ton of snaps for him this past week, 57 snaps. Only a Mecca Abuka saw more snaps than him. It's really those two guys. It's Sterling shepherd and then you're seeing just a few snaps a game from Cameron Johnson, Ryan Miller. We do have the news too that Chris Godwin's going to be out likely until mid November, potentially even into December if we ever see him back this season. And on the other side of the coin here, Jaden Higgins, career highs across the board against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Of course this was with Davis Big Neck mills under center, five receptions, 42 yards on seven targets. So Tez is already rostered in about 27.9 of ESPN leagues. Where will you be ranking him moving forward? And is Higgins someone that you're worth picking up and spending some fab on this go around?
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, I'm surprised how low Tez is, Ross. It needs to be well over 50%. So if he's out there, guys, that needs to be your priority. You got to go grab him. And I, I moved him up into a low end wide receiver 3 range this week and then you know, obviously I think that's a really appropriate range for him moving forward. Maybe we can tilt him up towards, you know, the back towards the end of the top 30. There is a nice little range for him, but you know, at this point you got to trust that. I understand Mecca is fantastic, but the wide receiver 2 there is clearly Tez. The touchdown equity that he has had has been very consistent there as well. Baker Mayfield had the nice bounce back game after a couple of down games there. So Tez is somebody who is going to be a strong high influx option through. Yeah, like you were saying, I would anticipate probably mid December. So if we do actually see believe the timeline that they're giving us there in Tampa Bay and then Jaden Higgins, that's a fun one there because when you look at Houston realistically, they're looking at their record and they might be thinking okay, like maybe we can still push forward and try to compete. But Realistically given our offensive line and everything, we probably need to look forward to the future here and getting increased looks for these rookies. Higgins and Jalen Noel as well makes so much sense there and pushing forward with him and it was good to see him have this volume and this level of performance and this usage on the field with a healthy and active Nico Collins and a strong performance as well. So that was really encouraging there. So yeah, I think Jaden Higgins makes a lot of sense. It might be a little matchup dependent as well.
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Listener/Caller
I agree.
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Tara Roberts
But Higgins is definitely worth, worth a look.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, I think Higgins is one of those guys. If you're in a good spot in your league, if you're, you know, well on your way to the fantasy playoffs and you don't have to start him over the next few weeks, he's someone that's worth a stash in my opinion. 43 snaps for Higgins. We did see him for the first time this season actually outrun routes and snaps of Xavier Hutchinson, but he still Hutch still at 40 but he had no targets, no production whatsoever. And Noel getting on the field a little bit as well. 25 snaps to Christian Kirk's 32. So it's still a bit of a wide receiver by committee outside Nico Collins there. But Higgins I think is someone worth interesting enough to put on that roster moving forward if you're in a good position. I'm with you on Ted Johnson, man. I think he's like slowly getting into not every week starter but every week flex consideration. So if you got him a couple weeks ago, congratulations to you on that. The next storyline I wanted to talk about was Jackson Smith. The jigba breaks 1,000 receiving yards in the first quarter of this game against Arizona, making his claim for wide receiver one rest of season five for 93, one touchdown on six targets. Most of that came in the first quarter as well. So I was thinking are we going to get 30 or 40 burger from JSN? I certainly need it on a couple of teams and we didn't get it. But still, Tara, I feel like now we have a clear top tier wide receivers. It's Puka Nakua, it's Jamar Chase and it's jsn. Is he above those guys rest of the way for you or would you still prefer Nukua or Chase who's just seeing a boatload of targets with Joe Flacco in the lineup?
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Tara Roberts
You know, I think the one thing that maybe puts him above Chase is that Chase arguably does have the higher ceiling, but he does have more competition because you know, on a day, a week to week basis it can be hyper targeted to T. Higgins until that way a little bit. That kind of take off the upside there. And Jackson Smith and Jigba doesn't have to deal with that. You know, Puka Naku has to deal with the Devonte Adams. The Seattle Pass game is aggressively running through jsn. So perhaps that's what separates him a little bit there. But yeah, we've gotten to that point where he is right up there. Like I was, you know, in dfs, I was debating is it am I playing Puka or am I playing jsn? Like it was literally neck and neck right in line there. That's, that's the level that we trust him at this point.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, man, I'm super excited to see what he can do down the stretch in the season. Like he's not getting 2,000 yards or anything like that. But when you see what this guy is going to do from a season long perspective, I mean we're looking at 1600 plus yards, we're looking at a boatload of receptions and honestly the touchdowns have come too. So Sam Darnold's been spinning it, excited to continue to see what they can do and hopefully we get a little better. A little better game flow there. Right? The Seahawks are kind of just so far. I mean what was it, 27 or something? Maybe 280 after the first quarter like they were. I mean, oh, shout to that defense, man. They were all, they were all over Jacoby Brissette over there. So hopefully a better game flow for them and they can get some more action to the wide receivers. Last storyline of the week here, Tara. Streaming tight ends or are they just worth the roster spot moving forward long term? We had a plethora of streaming tight ends show out today that included two that Debro featured on this week's sleeper starts video. So shout out to DBRO for that. And Tara, I wanted to play a game where I'll give you the stat line here for these tight ends and how they did in week 10. And can you just let me know whether they're still a streamer or maybe roster bowl the rest of the way.
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Tara Roberts
Sounds good.
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Seth Wilcox
All right. Juwan Johnson First 14 for 92, one touchdown on four targets, 19.2 fantasy points against Carolina, of course. Rashid Shahid out of town right now. So it's really him. It's Chris Olave. Is Jawan Johnson worth a roster spot or is he still just, hey, I'll play him when I need to and just throw him back on the waiver wire.
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Tara Roberts
It's roster. We're back at that trust level with him. We had that little slightly early mid season slump there where he kind of dipped down a little bit. Then he bounced back back prior to this week had several top 12 performances. They're looking like a reliable tight end. One and the exit of Rasheed Shahid. Yeah, that's the key there. That's the key there. So we gotta trust it rest of season.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, I'd like to see the volume come up a little bit. It's still been in that four or five targets range the last couple weeks but big plays right now and Tyler Shuck definitely looks like he is a better option over Spencer Rattler as well. At least he was in this game where had a lot of money on the Panthers so did not, did not love seeing that come through but shout out to Juwan Johnson. Dalton Schultz. 750, 53. One touchdown on 11 targets. 18.3 fantasy points against Jacksonville. This was a guy I was really heavy on in DFS this week. Very heavy in the betting streets as well it feels like. And we already talked about Jane Higgins, Noel kind of taking a step up there in Houston. But I think Dalton Schultz is for sure the number two target in this passing offense outside of Nico Collins right now. What do you think?
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Tara Roberts
I'm on the edge there between a must start versus a streaming option depending on the matchup there. I, I trust it but I also I wonder if you know because these young guys are so talented. So I do wonder if Jaden Higgins can just slightly creep up in the snaps and try to push his way through there and then limit that upside for Dalton Schultz. So I think maybe the competition there makes him more towards the stream worthy option there for me.
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Seth Wilcox
Okay, what about Kate odd and 9 for 82 on 12 targets. 17.2 fantasy points against New England. We already touched on this receiving core as well. No Chris Godwin, no Mike Evans for the time being. So it looks like it's Kate on it's Tez Johnson. It's a mecca Abuka. Do you like Auden?
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Tara Roberts
Rest of the way I do because again we talk, you know about the lack of trust that we have in return timeline for Chris Godwin. But then at the end of the day Sterling Shepard has just been minimized so much in this offense at this point points here. So it does feel very focused in on those three guys. And the run game is just like you know we don't have a timeline on Bucky Irving. So if this is the core right here, then yeah, I trust it.
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Seth Wilcox
Theo Johnson, 7 for 75 on 8 targets. 14.5 fantasy points against Chicago. Theo Johnson, streamer or rest of season rosterable?
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Tara Roberts
More towards the streaming option. I like him a lot. I don't know if I trust that they won't integrate Daniel Bellinger a little bit there here and there and kind of limit his upside overall there. They should focus in just on Theo Johnson. And then again, the past game is kind of inconsistent because at the end of the day, Jackson Dark can literally just run around. He doesn't have to throw it for that much. So that's the only issue there. So yeah, more, more towards the streamworthy option, but he's moving on up.
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Seth Wilcox
Can you rank these tight ends rest of season, Tara, what order would you have them in?
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, I would lean Juan Cade and then Schultz to Johnson. Yeah.
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Seth Wilcox
Okay. Okay. I think I'm probably, I think I'm probably Schultz Cage. I'm a little bit higher on Schultz. Maybe that's a little bit of recency bias. And the reason I think I'm a little bit lower on Cade is, well, I love this volume. I don't know how many games the Bucks will have to chuck it and grip it and rip it like they did here against the Patriots when they fell behind early. Also, Cade's seeing a lot of volume but he's not seeing like the high value targets, right? Not getting a ton of red zone looks, not getting a ton of deep targets right now. Maybe that changes as they continue have to to develop and strategize around the injuries they're facing there. But yeah, really enjoyed seeing these tight ends show out and show up in a big way here in week 10. And before we get to the panic meter, everyone, I did want to remind you all that we are proudly presented by the presenting sponsor of today's program, Hard Rock Bet. If you're listening to the podcast, you're probably deep into stats, injury reports and of course matchups as well. So you need to put your fantasy football knowledge to the test on Hard Rock Bet. Today, try your first bet on Hard Rock Bet. Just place a five dollar bet and if it hits you, not only get your winnings, but also $150 in extra bonus bets. They also have the Stats Hub. It's loaded with trends, streaks and stats to help guide your picks. Numbers don't lie. Neither does the data in there. Check out the Stats Hub now. Get the edge and bet with confidence. Moving forward, the Hard Rock BET Sportsbook app is the only legal sportsbook for whenever you're in the great state of Florida. I know our buddy Joey P was down there this past week. Hope he had a great vacation. It's also legal if you're in the states of Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois and Colorado. Coming soon to more states, hopefully Pennsylvania because I'm excited to try it out. Plus, Hard Rock BET officially gives you new promos every single day. So whenever you're listening to this, just open up the app and check out what they've got for you any day of the week. Download the Hard Rock Bet app now and make your first deposit payable and.
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Let'S go ahead folks. Let's fire up the panic meter. Go ahead. Let us know who you're panicking about and we'll rate them on a scale from 1 to 10 about how much we're panicking on these players. One means, hey, we're not really panicking. All times are good. Keep it cool. And 10 means it's full blown panic mode folks. So let's go ahead, drop your panic meter. Questions below. And the first one I wanted to get to was Bijan Robinson. A lot of questions for Bijan coming in right now. Where's your panic meter on Bijan Robinson? Of course. We saw Tyler Azir find the end zone not just once, but twice in Germany today. Tara.
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Tara Roberts
Oh, this is perfect. I do a five moves to make video and my plan was actually to talk about Bijan as a buy low and this confirms that. You know, I think the general consensus in terms of fantasy managers are feeling really down about the him and I and I get it 100. It's very frustrating because we know that his usage can be so much higher and we've got this increased usage of Tyler Algier. It's very, very frustrating. The ceiling is not getting met for where you drafted him, but I think he's a really good buy low candidate right now. If you're looking to trade him, please don't undersell him. At the end of the day, he's still Bijan. You got to be looking at literally top 12 value in terms of getting something back for him.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, I think I'm there with you. Like, I don't know how many other players I would rather have. Right. I don't think there's too many other guys that I'm really trading for Bijan. Like if you have to strip it down and sell him for like another lower end RB1 and maybe a wide receiver two or something, I'm okay with it. But yeah, I'm probably right in line with you. I'm one to two with Bijon. Good players will come back, I think, and Atlanta needs to lean on him, man. The, the worst part part of everything is they're just losing games continually. They're finding ways to lose. Appreciate the analysis there. We got Lance, who's asking, is Kenneth Walker droppable right now? What is your panic level on Kenneth Walker? He goes out again. I don't have snap counts for the Seattle game, but 14 for 67, one reception, three yards. We did see the, the backup running back, Halal, third stringer, he found the end zone. And then Zach Charbonnet, who once again found the end zone. So what's your panic level on Kenneth Walker who seemed to find some of that red zone work last week and now he doesn't have it all of a sudden again?
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, my panic levels at like a nine here. I've tried to be in. I've tried to be in denial and just like, because him as a whole, he's talented and I conceptually, I understand that they have their preferences in terms of, you know, they're the exact opposite of Atlanta. Atlanta. If Tyler Algier carries them down to the goal line, Tyler Algiers getting that touchdown, they're not going to pull him out because of some kind of red zone preference there. Right. So Seattle's truly limiting this overall upside for Kenneth Walker here. It's just been too many weeks in a row here at this point. Unless Charbonnet goes down with an injury. And then you mentioned Holani getting that goal line touched as well. That was highly concerning for them to turn to him too. So, yeah, we're at a. We're at a. I don't think that he is at the droppable level because at the end of the day you do still want to stash him in case something does happen to Zach Charbonnet. But I think we're at the point here where, yeah, our rankings are. Zach Charbonnet is operating as the RB one there and Kenneth Walker unfortunately has to come down. Yeah, it's crazy.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah. George Holani, I called him Halal. I think I'm a little hungry. I think. I think that's. That's where the mindset went there. But yeah, it was definitely frustrating and hopefully things turn around for Kenneth Walker. I just don't know at this point, like the upside's not there that we thought it was going to either in the past catching department or in the red zone. So I'm there with you. If someone's willing to buy him at a reasonable price, I think you should consider moving off Kenneth Walker. I just don't trust it week in and week out. And, and look, the Seahawks are a good team right now too, so I think they're really going to want to keep these backs healthy for the stretch run and try to make a push in the playoffs. Devonte Adams, we did see him flare up with a back issue. I believe he did return to the game or at least looked like he could have returned to the game if they needed him in this one. I mean, I don't get why there's any panic on Devonte Abs. 19.7 fantasy points for him today, 6 for 77 and a touchdown coming off a 2 TD game last week. I mean, he's been great. So I got a zero. I don't know why anyone would be panicking about devonte Adams other than maybe just the injury flaring up. What about you?
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, I don't know. I tried to because I saw it prior to the game as well. Some question marks around him. I don't know if it's skepticism around him being touchdown dependent, which I get because his targets definitely came down with Puka Nakua being in there. But at the end of the day, the red zone usage for him from Matt Stafford has been way too specific at this point. There's touchdown dependent and then there's a quarterback locking in on you. So yeah, we trust it. He's a. He's a top 20 receiver on a weekly basis.
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Seth Wilcox
Here's a question from Stink asking the panic meter level on Lamar Jackson. Oh man, like it hasn't been awesome for Lamar this season. He missed, you know, the, the whole month basically stretched there where he wasn't active. Of course, one of those games was the Ravens buy But he's come back 26 fantasy points last week, 17 today. So it hasn't been exactly what we were looking for. Lamar only a 58 completion percentage today. So is that why people are panicking here? And what is your panic level meter on Lamar Jackson?
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Tara Roberts
My panic level is probably like a one. I'm good with Lamar. This game was obviously highly disappointing, especially because Minnesota's defense has been very exploitable. So I honestly thought that we were getting a much higher fantasy day from both him and Derrick Henry.
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Seth Wilcox
I want to say I'm a four maybe and like I don't think it's because of necessarily the production, but it's more. Look what's coming up next. It's Cleveland, it's the Jets. I don't know if Lamar has to do a ton in those games to win those ones, then it's the Bengals, then it's Pittsburgh. So two good matchups there. Then we're back in Cincinnati though, and then New England and Green Bay to end out this run. So like, honestly, like I don't want to again, don't want to sound the alarms, but if someone's out there still willing to give you draft day capital for Lamar Jackson and you have a Joe Flacco out there, maybe you have Jackson dart and you can get by for a week without dart. If he is out with an injury, I'm okay moving him for a position player, but I think I'm always in that mindset. Tara, as we get kind of down the stretch here, can we move some of these quarterbacks, these onesies positions for a skill player? Because I don't know if your RB room and wide receiver rooms are the same for me, but I got no one right now due to the injuries.
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, yeah, makes sense.
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Seth Wilcox
Love that. Also, loving the fancy pros discord community right now with everything we have rocking and rolling over there. You can chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that actually are going to wind up on our podcast feed, folks. So it's a very fun time. You can chat with all the analysts, ask questions in there as well. Our schedule for the rest of the season looks like this. Worm and Fitz are on with you at 5 Eastern on the first Tuesday of every month. And then Bogs and Fits, they're talking dynasty at 5 Eastern on the third Tuesday of every month. Plus Welsh and Erickson live Thursdays at 2pm Eastern time to take your questions and chat with y'.
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Seth Wilcox
So come get your questions answered. Be on the show@fantasypros.com chat. And guys, go ahead and drop any questions you have for us as we have a about the next five minutes of the program to get those to you before Sunday Night Football kicks off. Steelers tonight. So looking forward to that one and hopefully my home team can get one done. First one I wanted to go to was with our friend Victoria asking, is Jameson Williams a starter? Rest of season it's been sketchy, Tara. It has been sketchy. If you've had Jameson Williams roster pretty much anytime this season, he's had duds, he's had donuts. But then he has games like today. 23.9 fantasy points, 119 yards on six receptions, seven targets for him coming off a 16.66 game last week. So where are you at on JMO right now?
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Tara Roberts
For the most part and there have been some weird exceptions, but for the most part we can predict his boom games. They come in good matchups, right? So you just have to be able to pinpoint that down. And that, that being said, looking at his rest of season schedule, it's kind of shaky here in the next week. But after that there are definitely a lot of matchups where he can go off there. So yeah, rest of season he is moving up a little bit here just because the schedule does look like it benefits him. Specific.
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Seth Wilcox
Okay. And shout out to our friend Danny giving a little love to D. RO and the Alec Pierce start. Should have tailed him on that. Hey, I get it man. I get it. Alec Pierce has not been fun to have in fantasy about four years now. So every time we get this kind of, you know, late contract breakout, it's hard to commit to it. But the play was there so I, I understand the frustration. And Andy checking in with us as well, saying fun to my favorites. Great to see you, Angie. I got to connect with you earlier this week on a call. So, so glad to see you hanging out with us here. Our friend Dredis as well. Also in the chat here, Tara asking, did Marks finally overcome Nick Chubb? It was just 10 snaps for Nick Chubb today. We saw Woody Marks really dominate the touches. At one point it looked like did he just suffer an Achilles injury or something because like he, he went down non contact injury walking off, but he was fine. He was right back in there. So is it Woody Marks over Chubb the rest of the way? Did he finally get over this speed bump that was Nicholas Chubb.
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Tara Roberts
Yes, finally. Thank goodness because we have been waiting for that one. I've been, I've been ranking it as such just because at the end of the day, Chubb lacks upside. So if anyone was going to give you any upside as a starter, it was going to be Marks. But to see him kind of separate himself there, I. It's tough to trust the Texans in terms of how they're shaking out that backfield, but I want to believe in it that we finally overcome that hump.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, I hope so. I certainly hope so. Amazon Pancakes asking I have a Buka and Tez. I was looking to possibly trade Tez. Who are some high upside wide receivers I should target in trades. I think you're in a weird position here with Tez Johnson. While I think he has value and he's a guy worth playing, I think he's almost more valuable to your team than what you're going to get out there on the open market forum. Tara, like, I don't think you could really like you could probably get like Terry McLaurin form right now. I don't think I would do that. You could probably get like Jacoby Myers. I think those are like some high upside guys. But. But I just don't think you're going to get what Tez is worth right now in a weekly lineup.
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Tara Roberts
Yeah, I agree. I think he's more valuable on your roster and I know often we want to differentiate and not be starting two guys from the same team there. But at the end of the day, just based off the vibes that I see in terms of like the how you, how people are valuing him, I don't think it's high enough yet to get really what you deserve out of it.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, keep on hanging on Amazon and you know, throw them out there if you need it. Throw them out there if you need them. And if like you need maybe like a buy low or running back like, like Jordan Mason's been absolutely garbage for a couple weeks. Maybe you can go get something like done like that. I think that would be your, your play. Right. Maybe go to a running back who hasn't been performing as as much of late. Also we have Michelle checking in saying my wide receivers are Sutton, Debo, Keenan, Allen, Pierce, Salt, Booty and Jennings. I'm panicking about all of them. Jerry, Judy, Parker, Washington, Keon Coleman, all on waivers. What should I do? I mean Parker Washington I think definitely needs added. Yeah, I don't know how you get out of this situation though. Tara.
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Tara Roberts
I would, I would so I love Case on Booty. I would drop him for Parker Washington just because it's possible that we've seen enough potential, you know, so we saw a little, you know, big play from Kyle Williams. We saw Matt Collins involved there. So it's possible we get things spread out a little bit there and it's not as if Kayshawn Booty was a high target guy. He was really thriving there off of being efficient and touchdowns as well. So if I had to apples to app drop one for Parker Washington, yeah, it would, it would be him because I definitely think Parker Washington needs to be rostered. You can't turn from Peirsol yet. I've got a theory with San Francisco that they're just holding on as long as possible because they're in a winning position and their schedule is extremely soft. So they're holding those guys that are close until they absolutely need them. So we'll probably see him and Iuk return in the next couple of weeks here. I think we're close. I think we're close on him. So don't, don't bail out yet.
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Seth Wilcox
Yeah, I mean I, I think if you're doing anything here, like I'm hoping, Michelle, you've really good running backs and maybe you can trade a running back and go get yourself a stud receiver. You know, can you get rid of running back and trade an RB with maybe like a Keenan Allen who's kind of going down and snaps a little bit. Juwan Jennings, who I trust him as bad as far as I can throw him right now. So that would kind of be. Be my opinion on how you should go through that Last one here from Denny, Tara, Sutner, Franklin, rest of season. I think it's still Cortland Sutton. I can't think we can panic on a guy who's wide receiver 10 right now, averaging 12.7 fantasy points per game. Yes, it was a down week against the Raiders, but that was also just such a weird game and I hate Thursday night games in general and what they do to some of the wide receiver ones of offenses.
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Tara Roberts
I, I think I've seen enough to flip it, which is crazy. When I was super pro Courtland, I've got the dumbest amount of Cortland Sutton, humanly possible super pro Portland Sutton coming into the season. But we got to remember this. The existing rapport from college between Franklin and Bo Nix, we might just be seeing the, the culmination of that finally coming up now that Franklin is just getting on the field consistently because we didn't see that in the rookie season. Sean Payton just holding them back there in the corner. So him finally getting on the field consistently earning that trust and he's Got that connection. I'm. I can't say that I'm shocked.
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Seth Wilcox
All right, well, you heard it here first. It seems like some people are low on Cortland's done, including our friend Tara. So, so maybe a time to go buy low on Courtland Sutton if he's out there and you know someone's offering him up for a good price. But yeah, I think both of those Broncos pass catchers are reliable options the rest of the way. Again, keep in mind, we do have a bye week in week 12, so they will be on the shelf for that Kansas City next week I don't love. But then you do get a couple good matchups in week 13 and 14 with the commanders and the Raiders, respectively. That is going to do it for us today on this episode of the Fantasy Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast. Let us know below down in the comments. Your favorite and biggest winners and losers from week 10. We want to hear from you. Also, make sure you're smashing that like button on YouTube and subscribing to the show if you're new. Tara, what do you got coming on this week? I believe five moves to make. I think that's the first thing that will hit the YouTube this week from you. Is that correct?
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Tara Roberts
It will. And spoiler alert, you guys dropped comments about several of the guys that we'll be talking about in there. So I got some solutions for you.
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Seth Wilcox
Awesome. Well, I can't wait to see that. And so much good content coming over here here at Fantasy Pros this week. So make sure you guys are checking out the website for the written content, the rankings, the tools, everything like that. And then you're hanging out right here every single day on the FP YouTube channel. We're also over on Twitch Live multiple times throughout the week. So it's very, very thankful for you, Tara. Very thankful for the audience being here with us today. For Tara Roberts, I'm Seth Wilcock. Take care y' all and have a great rest of Sunday. Thank you.
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