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Week 11 Fantasy Football Quarterback and Tight End Rankings: Studs, Sleepers, and Must-Starts (Ep. 1839)
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Ashley Reifeld
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Chris Welsh
What's up friends and welcome in to Fantasy Pros. This is the fantasy football podcast quarterback and tight end ranks for week 11. I'm Chris Welsh. We got Pat Fitz, Morris, Andrew Erickson. Two shows in one. As we're going to be talking about our top 12 quarterbacks and tight ends. All the things in between, maybe a little bit of giveaway action. Fitzy, what's up buddy? How are we doing?
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Pat Fitzmaurice
Doing great. I'm excited about week 11. Welsh. I think it's going to be a fun week of football. Only one game we're missing due to buys rather than two or three, so it's going to be fun.
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Chris Welsh
I'm a big fan, Erickson, of this low bye week thing. Two teams on a buy, especially the Saints. Get them out of here. We don't need any of that. Very I think I forgot how much I enjoy not having like a bunch of teams on by since we've just been getting wrecked by it.
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Andrew Erickson
Well, this is the one week this year where no one has to face Jonathan Taylor. So this is your chance to take down the Jonathan prey on the Jonathan Taylor teams this week. They all need to lose if you don't have them and obviously if you have them, then you're probably going to lose this week.
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Chris Welsh
But hey, can't win them all or the tough decision. Do you start Danny Dimes relative to this episode or Tyler Warren. Those will not be options for you this week. And then there's some Saints players that are going to be out there, but we're going to be rolling through the quarterbacks. We got a few quarterbacks that are outside the top 12 doing the same thing with tight ends here as we are going to be laying out the Week 11 ranks for this position. Before we start up though, we do talk about giveaways on this episode. So if you want a chance to win the ultimate symbol of fantasy glory, my friends, the fantasy football championship belt courtesy of our friends at Trophy Smack, the number one destination for epic fantasy football hardware, then this is Your moment. This massive gold plated belt is built to make a statement. It's bold, it's heavy and it's guaranteed to turn heads in your league. Don't just win your championship, wear it. To enter, all you got to do is subscribe to The Fantasy Pros YouTube channel right now and drop a comment below on any of the videos. That's it. We'll be announcing a winner right here on the channel, so turn on notifications so you don't miss a chance to claim this championship belt and flex it on your entire league. Let's go to quarterback. Speaking of flex, a little super flex action. Quarterback time. Top 12 on the ranks this week. You guys want to follow along? Go to fantasypros.com rankings and you can also see the updates that happen throughout the week. Here's your top 12. Josh Allen comes in at number one. Jalen hurts two. Drake may all the way up to three. Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, Justin Herbert. That's your top six. Bottom six of this is Patrick Mahomes at seven. Baker Mayfield, Matthew Stafford, Joe Flacco, Caleb Williams and Jordan Love coming in at 10. A lot of the chalk quarterbacks. No decisions really need to be made. Yes you start Drake May. Yes you start Justin Herbert. But do you start Joe Flacco? That's going to be a big question. He's going up against Pittsburgh Steelers which looks like a pretty good matchup. This is I think the highest he's been ranked at 10. And you two do not agree. Fitzy, you're the one that does say to start. You've got him at quarterback 8 this week, higher than ECR. So let's start with you.
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Pat Fitzmaurice
25.4 fantasy points per game with the Bengals QB1 in fantasy scoring over that time. One of those games was against the Steelers. Flacco had 342 yards and three touchdowns in that game. He's averaged 43.3 pass attempts and 313.5 passing yards in his starts with the Bengals and he's thrown two or more touchdown passes in all of them. And the Steelers are giving up the seventh most fantasy points per game to quarterbacks. I feel like Erickson is ranking this based on 2011 Joe Flacco when he was a game manager with the Ravens early in his career and not the YOLO Joe Flacco that we are getting from the the 40 year old version of Joe Flacco.
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Chris Welsh
Well Erickson, you love yourself some Jalen Warren this week. Why do you and you love yourself some Chase Brown. So I Mean, you know, you're looking at this game, you love some offense, you love some of the pieces. Why don't you have Joe Flacco? Why are we not a big Joe Flacco guy? 15 at 15, by the way, you have him ranked.
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Andrew Erickson
Yeah. So I mean he's still a player that you could consider as a streamer. I still think that he's a fine starter. I think there's a lot of guys in that conversation between the 10 and 15 range. Now I have a couple guys that run more than Joe Flacco. Does that give them a little bit higher of a floor? Because Flacco has to throw a bunch of touchdowns for him to hit as a QB one. And I just feel that Chase Brown, he's going to have a big game and I think if we're seeing more rushing touchdowns than passing touchdowns, that could potentially hurt the bottom line for Joe Flacco. And we just look at this specific matchup. They the Bengals have the 22nd implied team total this week. That's not that high. That's outside the top 20. The Steelers pass rush has looked significantly better over the last couple games. They've allowed fewer than 18 fantasy points to both Daniel Jones and Justin Herbert in back to back weeks. And I think a big difference in this game versus the last time that they faced the Steelers is they're not playing at home like they're playing on the road in Pittsburgh. Not an easy place to play. So that's just why I'm a couple spots down on Joe Flacco. But I still think that he's. If you're looking for a streamer, I still think that like what Fitz pointed out how good he has been. I think that he's still a fine streamer this week.
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Chris Welsh
And you kind of alluded to, I didn't finish like my thought in it that you know you have two running backs that you guys both kind of like in a kind of tough matchup with the implied totals that there might be more running and maybe that was part of why Flacco is down a tiny bit. But you guys definitely on polar opposites. Ericsson, we're going to start with you because I got to ask you this. After last week, how can you look yourself in the mirror and start Jordan Love as a top 12 quarterback? That was another gross one. QB 11, you've got him out. He is QB 12. So other people are doing it. Fitz, he's lower, which we'll talk about it is the Giants and that is probably the number one reason but you tell me, I would have a hard time feeling comfortable with Jordan Love after.
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Andrew Erickson
Last week he's playing the New York Giants. They have the worst defenses in the NFL. So yeah, I get Jordan Love did not play great, but it was against the Philadelphia Eagles, one of the better defenses in the NFL. And every time you look up they lost another offensive playmaker or they lost another offensive lineman. So adjusting in game is always going to be much tougher than adjusting leading up to a matchup against a really beatable New York Giants defense. I would expect Matthew golden to at least come back for the Packers. He didn't play against the Philadelphia Eagles, so that's really why I think that Jordan Love can still get it done here against the Giants. And the Jameis Winston factor, that benefits Jordan Love too. Because if this game becomes more of a shootout, back and forth type of game, Jameis Winston truly is the tie that lifts all boats on both sides of the field because of the way that he plays and his YOLO mentality. So I still think that Jordan Love is a decent low end QB1 this week.
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Chris Welsh
I guess I see the path fits, but also in the same way I would just think like just hand the ball off to Josh Jacobs, do what you do, let him play this out, let him keep scoring against that Giants rush defense. But I think your rank is more representative of how I feel. You've got him in QB17, so this is like the lowest of this group here. Way out on him being a startable quarterback this week.
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Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
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Pat Fitzmaurice
And I haven't soured on Jordan Love overall. I still think he's pretty good, but right now the Green Bay passing game might just sort of be at low ebb with some of the injuries they're dealing with. Romeo Dobbs now is a chest injury. That's a problem if he can't go because then it's, you know, Matthew golden who really hasn't done much of anything. And Christian Watson is his top two receivers and he's already lost Tucker Kraft for the season. And the packers also lost center Elkton Jenkins to a lower leg fracture. He's probably their second best offensive lineman. So on top of the injuries, the packers offense tends to skew run heavy. I just, I don't think it's a great spot for Jordan love this week.
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Chris Welsh
J.J. mcCarthy, is this a really good spot this week? We are actually going to go back to our dear friend Erickson because Erickson, you seem to think so. J.J. mcCarthy has got an ECR of QB 17. You have him as a top 10 quarterback this week. So lay out the J.J. mcCarthy love.
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Andrew Erickson
Playing the Chicago Bear. I'm just playing the matchups here, guys. Like I'm, I'm targeting these terrible defenses with my quarterbacks. The Giants defense sucks and I think that the Bears defense is really, really bad. We talked about in the wide receiver show, Fitz loves Justin Jefferson. How's Jefferson going to get there? J.J. mcCarthy doesn't do anything. So McCarthy adds value as a rusher. He has at least 25 rushing yards in three of his four starts this season. A top three matchup in terms of quarterback points allowed for the Chicago Bears. The Bears are 27th in EPA against quarterback scrambles this year. And look, the McCarthy experience, I think this captures it the best. So per PFF, JJ McCarthy is top five in big time throw rate this season. He's also top three in turnover worthy play rate this season. So I think that really does a good job of capturing the JJ McCarthy experience where he drops dimes at points. Like some of the throws he made a Jalen Naylor last week, it's like, man, that's a great throw. And then he makes other throws. You're like, what is this guy doing? Like. Like you're. You're just baffled by some of the inadequacy with some of these tosses. But against Chicago, in a game where he finishes a QB one in essentially one quarter back in week one against this bad Bears defense, I'm buying into the matchup, the rushing upside and the elite playmakers playing at home. Yeah. You mean McCarthy has a top 10 guy this week?
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Chris Welsh
Fitzy, you. You're not. Or maybe we'll have a change of heart. I don't know. I. It is a good question. How does Justin Jeff succeed at that level if J.J. mcCarthy is not a top inside the top 20 quarterback, which you have him at QB20.
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Pat Fitzmaurice
Can we really say I love Justin Jefferson when I'm ranking him wide receiver 7 on the week? This guy who's been perpetually drafted as a top three wide receiver since coming into the league, I like him just because I have faith in Justin Jefferson. And I do think that Justin Jefferson could still have a big game even with J.J. mcCarthy. Even though I don't trust J.J. mcCarthy at all. I'll. I'll bet he also ranks in the top five in passes thrown directly into the arms of defensive linemen because that's another thing he seems to like. He just can't figure out where throwing lanes are. There have been a lot of frustrating things and I'm not even a Vikings fan, obviously as a Green Bay packers fan. But like he is a tough watch man. Like I still have hope. It's early in his career. I'm not going to judge a guy after four NFL starts and he does rip some incredible throws. Like arm talent is not a problem. But I also wonder about the touch. Like I don't think he can't layer throws like Drake May can. He doesn't. I don't.
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Andrew Erickson
Nobody can.
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Pat Fitzmaurice
Yeah, I mean like comparing him to Drake May. But like, even when I watch Cam Ward, I have a lot more hope for Cam Ward than I do for J.J. mcCarthy right now. So I guess I should probably consider because the Bears do have a really suspect pass defense. They're having trouble generating a pass rush. They don't have their two best cornerbacks, Jalen Johnson or Kyler Gordon. But I still worry that the floor with J.J. mcCarthy is frighteningly low.
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Chris Welsh
I'm closer to Fitz on this than Erickson as far as like the trustworthiness of just playing the matchups. Because J.J. mcCarthy, he does have some moments where you're like, oh baby. Because he could still go 2, 22 touchdowns. But like if he also threw three picks in this and brought that down, you probably wouldn't be too surprised either. One other quarterback that is really low down in the ranks, except for you guys, to A Tongue Viola Quarterback, 22 In ACR, you guys are in the teens 16 and 14 respectively. Fitzy, why don't you lay it out. I think you guys kind of started to throw this a little bit with the wide receiver episode and based on this matchup. But what do you like in TUA this week?
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Pat Fitzmaurice
I love his matchup against the Washington commanders, who rank 30th in defensive EPA per play, who have the highest opponent passer rating in the league, who are giving up 8.9 yards per pass attempt. No other team is giving up more than 8.2 passing yards per attempt. The commander's past has just been atrocious and Tua's actually been pretty good over his last three games. 69% completion rates and 7.3 yards per attempt, six touchdowns. So I just, I love the matchup here.
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Chris Welsh
Erickson, this looks like he's going to be a popular streaming quarterback this week. If you did lose Danny Dimes, you know, you're not worried about the Saints quarterback that you lost. But if you were trying to stream a quarterback this week two, it seems like he might be. I mean, maybe J.J. mcCarthy is your prime guy, but two is at least going to be number two on that list. You've got him at 14 so you have him as a top 15 quarterback.
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Andrew Erickson
Yo, I saw Fiesta Dolphins in Madrid against this terrible Commander's defense. I think that fits laid it out perfectly again playing the matchups with some of these pocket passers this week with Tua, I think that he's shown that he can throw multiple touchdowns against bad defenses and I don't think the Miami Dolphins are going to hold up when they know they can score points against the Commanders. So yeah, Tua I think is a solid streamer this week and I think that I'm glad me and Fitz are both above ECR on him because I think this is pretty clear that just Commander's defense is just so, so bad.
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Chris Welsh
So bad.
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Andrew Erickson
And and Tua, even when Tua was playing at his peak like this, is always a matchup where their favorites they're playing against a bad team like the Dolphins prey on the week. That's really where Mike McDaniel has had his most success. It's when they have to go on the road to Buffalo outdoors as massive underdogs. That's usually when they struggle in. Tua plays badly. When they're again, they're not at home here because it's a neutral field. But against the bad defense, I think that you can have some faith in Tua this week.
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Pat Fitzmaurice
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Chris Welsh
Let's go over to the tight end ranks here. Your top 12 for the week. Coming in at number one is Trey McBride. Looks even better. There's no Marvin Harrison, so a million targets for him against the 49ers. Brock Bowers at 2, George Kittle at 3, Aranda Gadsden at 4, Jake Ferguson and Sam LaPorta. That's your top six. Seven through 12 is Dallas Goddard, Travis Kelsey, Kate Otten, Kyle Pitts, Dalton Schultz and Mark Andrews. Travis Kelsey tied in eight on this list. And you guys are split. Fitz, he's the high guy. Erickson's the low guy. So, Fitzy, let's hit it with you. Top five, Travis Kelsey. It's a throwback week going up against the Denver Broncos.
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Pat Fitzmaurice
Yeah. So since Week 5, Kelsey is tight end five in fantasy points per game. He's averaged 5.2 catches and 71.6 receiving yards a game over that stretch. And I think the matchup could maybe work in Kelsey's favor this week because the Broncos are murder against wide receivers, but not necessarily against tight ends. They've given up the 13th most receiving yards to tight end. So it's not like they're being drilled by tight ends. But I think this might be the path of least resistance for Patrick Mahomes.
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Chris Welsh
Erickson, you have him at 11, though, so you were lower than consensus. So he's just barely a tight end. One who's like the who's tight end 10 for you. Is it Schultz? Like who do you like more, Schultz or Kelsey?
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Andrew Erickson
Kelsey of Kelsey.
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Chris Welsh
Okay.
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Andrew Erickson
I like Hunter Henry this week because Austin Hooper's not going to play.
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Chris Welsh
Yeah, we're going to talk about him.
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Andrew Erickson
Yeah. So that's the guy I like over Kelsey because I like his touchdown odds more than Kelsey's this week because the thing with Kelsey, with me is just I'm concerned about the target volume. With Rashi Rice back the last three weeks just a 16 target share and what Kelsey has done, he's ripped off a lot of big plays. So over the last three games he's averaged a 17 yards per catch which is not typically what you expect to see from a 35 year old tight end. So if he's no longer ripping off these massive catch and run plays, which he traditionally doesn't do at this point in his career, then I think that he's more of a floor play and then you're just banking on does he score again? Attached to Patrick Mahomes usually have pretty good touchdown odds, but collectively against a tougher Denver Broncos defense, maybe this isn't the week that Kelsey finds pay dirt. So that's just why I'm a little bit lower.
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Chris Welsh
Kyle Pitts ECR10 and you guys are both above consensus this week. I'm not sure, like by a dramatic degree. Eric's in a little bit more here. So Erickson, why don't you hit it? You got him at tight end seven. You're going down the well here, does that and you have him. Yeah, you've got Pitts over Kelsey this week. So what do you think about Kyle.
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Andrew Erickson
Pitts third in tight end target share over the last month. So he's seeing a ton of volume, a ton of opportunities in this offense. The Falcons have been a disappointment more often than not though over the last couple weeks. I know Michael Pennix has missed a game. The passing game has been really inconsistent. But the thing I feel most confident about is it's clearly Kyle Pitts over Darnell Mooney. Right. The Mooney thing has just been an absolute disaster this season with Michael Pennock. So Pitts has at least ascended himself to number two pass catcher, not including Bijan Robinson. He has three catches in every single game except for last week. So. And even last week he had opportunities he dropped. He had a really bad drop on a play that could have been a long touchdown gain and the Michael Pinnocks missed him in the end zone. So I'm really just chasing the opportunities with Kyle Pitts like he's had the opportunities to put up better fantasy numbers. And it's a positive matchup against the Carolina Panthers, who have been one of the ones to attack with tight ends this season. So. And I wouldn't get too bogged down about the game score or the box score from the last time they faced the Panthers because the Falcons just totally laid an egg on the road. They lost 30 to nothing. Like nothing really went right for them in that game. They're playing at home. That's where Penn, I mean the Falcons haven't played home in three weeks. Right. They've been on the road at New England, playing internationally. They play better in the dome. So I expect Pitts to have a solid game here because he's had a solid floor. Maybe we get a ceiling performance, maybe finds the end zone.
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Chris Welsh
Fitzy, it is a good matchup. That's like one of the big things that stands out. Even if Pitts doesn't like jump off the page, it's a pretty good matchup. So you got him slightly above ecr. What do you think about Pitts this week?
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Pat Fitzmaurice
Yeah, Carolina has given it up to tight ends. Maybe not to the extent that they did in 2024, but still it's a favorable matchup and just I love that it's such a skinny target tree for the Falcons. It's basically Drake London and Kyle Pitts and I think Michael Penix is learning that throwing to Darnell Mooney is just massively negative EV at this stage. So hopefully it's just London and Pitts. Pitts is averaging 7.8 targets over his last four games. So that's, you know, like he hasn't really paid it off with any big, big games. But he does have a pretty sturdy floor and there's the possibility of a blow up game I think against the Panthers.
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Chris Welsh
Final tight end is Hunter Henry. As mentioned before, he is the 12th tight end on this list. Erickson is higher we'll talk about in a second. But Fitzy, you've got him right at ecr. I'm a little soury on Hunter Henry because it's, I don't, I don't know, it's just touchdown equity. Like that's been about it. Like the volume kind of seems to kind of float away because they've got four different wide receiver targets on any given week. Trayvon's going off like it is touchdown or bust kind of with Hunter Henry. But what do you think, Fitz?
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Pat Fitzmaurice
Yeah, you just don't know when Hunter Henry is going to pop off. And since week five, he's averaged 2.5 catches and 28.8 yards a game with only one touchdown over those six games. But I think I do have to move him up at least one spot. I didn't realize Austin Hooper was going to be out this week, so that might be worth a couple extra targets.
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Chris Welsh
For Hunter Henry and it sounds like Erickson has accounted for that. You got admit eight so top eight tight end for Hunter Henry this week.
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Andrew Erickson
Fitz, you asked. You don't know when he's going to pop off Thursday night against the jets at home. That's when Hunter Henry is going to pop up. Hooper is going to miss his game with a concussion. And I talked about on the wide receiver show when I was waxing poetic about Stefan Diggs, who's the best bet to throw for at least two touchdowns this week and every week is Drake May. So I feel pretty good about Henry's odds to score this week. So you wagering on this game anytime. Touchdown Hunter Henry. It's going to be plus money. Get on it.
- [22:42]
Chris Welsh
There you go. Go over to Betting Pros. Check out all the action we got going there as well. All right, that is going to do a quarterback and tight end rankings. Go to fantasypros.com rankings if you want to follow how it changes and what changes with ECR throughout the week and right up until Kickoffer lineup locks, you can go and do that fantasypros.com rankings as well. Just downloading the app and checking out all the amazing tools to get you hooked up over on my playbook. That is going to do it for the show. For Andrew Erickson and Pat Fitzmaurice, I'm Chris Welsh. Good luck in your Week 11 matchups and we'll talk to you next time right here on Fantasy Pros.
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