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Seth Wilcock
All right, and welcome into the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football podcast. It's the Week 11 Sunday recap show coming to you live right here on the FP YouTube channel. And what a day it was, my friends. With a slew of game winning kicks, backup quarterback play, and superstars coming out of nowhere. We'll break it all down for you from a fantasy perspective. I'm your host, Seth Wilcock. And back Ryan Shotgun. With me is a man who knows a thing or two about football. He's Scott Bogman. Boggs, how are you? Coming off one of the more wild Sunday slates that I can remember, I'm good.
Scott Bogman
I mean we beat the Bengals. I love that as Steelers fans we are happy with that one. In most of my leagues, my home league is killing me recently. That's, that's the most brutal one because that's the one where all your friends get to smack talk. You so hate losing there. But everything else is looking decent for me. So far, so, so far so good on Sunday. Longhorns lost yesterday so the weekend is incomplete. But great Sunday.
Seth Wilcock
Absolutely. I agree with you. Good Sunday for anyone who had Josh Allen the lineup as our friend Murphy saying in the chat and not a great Sunday if you did bench Sean Tucker. But we'll certainly chat all about that later on in the program. It does look like this though. For the show's outline, no Dr. Deepak Chona for one more week but we will continue to break down the most notable injuries and the potential fans football ramifications. Then we'll give you the top five fancy storylines of the day. We'll take a trip to the panic meter and then we'll round out the program with a rapid fire Q A. So send any Sunday specific or rest of season questions you have for us and we'll be sure to try to answer those for you. And before we jump in, shout out to everyone who supports us by either hanging out with us on the FP YouTube channel or after the fact on the audio feed, please, please be sure give this video a thumbs up if you enjoy this type of content and also make sure you subscribe if you're new, help us get to 300, 000 subscribers by the end of the football season. That would be really cool if you could. We would really, really appreciate that. And Boggs, let's go ahead and get into those injuries that were once against very, very prevalent here in week 11, starting with green Bay packers running back Josh Jacobs leaves the first half with a knee injury. This is not considered season ending, but he will likely miss some time. Boggs, how much of your remaining fab are you spending on his backup Emmanuel Wilson, who scored 13.9 PPR points today, rostered in just 5.9% of ESPN leagues?
Scott Bogman
Yeah, you're probably going to have to unload to get Emmanuel Wilson at this point. Like there's just, there's not a lot of backs left. This is likely a PCL sprain from what we're seeing from the fantasy docs on Instagram and Twitter and all that good stuff. So two to six weeks is typically what that is. So just a wide variety of options. So Josh Jacobs is probably helping carry your team right now. So if you are rostering him, you need to get Emmanuel Wilson. So this is why we do handcuffs. But handcuffs are hard to carry when they're not doing as much and Wilson is one of those guys that every once in a while he'll bow up. But I would say it's him and his handcuffs cuff would be Chris Brooks moving forward.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, packers on deck. Next form, the Vikings, the Lions, the Bears, the Broncos and then back at the Bears on December 20th. So I don't hate that rest of season schedule for Wilson. If it will be him for a couple weeks at least we know you can run on the Bears coming up in three weeks. The Vikings and Lions also not matchups I'm really afraid of for running backs? I think so.
Scott Bogman
Yeah. Not bad.
Seth Wilcock
Let's go ahead. Let's get to the Atlanta Falcons where we had a couple injuries out there, including quarterback Michael Pennix Jr. He suffered a knee injury with wide receiver Drake London rolled out in overtime, also with a knee injury. Boggs, if either one of these players misses times, are there pivots at all in Atlanta because wide receiver 2 Darnell Mooney, we would think he would be the next guy up. However, he's yet to reach double digit fantasy points in eight games played this season and apparently has been dealing with a collarbone break that we didn't know anything about heading into the year.
Scott Bogman
Yeah I mean, Darnell Mooney has been fairly ineffective, so I would think it'd be probably Kyle Pitts, probably more, passing the ball to Bijan, maybe put him in the slot more and play Algier at running back, which they had been typically doing before this week. You know, they were down a lot though in this game, so lots of Bichon in there. So I think that's the pivot. Mooney maybe as like a low end wide receiver. 3 A flex option if you, you know, bye weeks next week and you have some injured players, so those would be the pivots. But I think you're right, man. Darnell Mooney just has not been performing this year, so it's hard to trust him.
Seth Wilcock
And it's not like we're going to look to David Sills or Kadero Hodge. Right. Like, I'm not going that direction, especially if it's Kirko Chains at quarterback.
Scott Bogman
No, I don't like David Sills at all. And yeah, Carol Hodge will pop up and have a game a year, but that's about it. So I'm not going to sit there and try to hunt for it. So you're right.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, Kyle Pitts arrow up. It seems like Darnell Mooney, if you're desperate next week. And then probably just an upgrade to both those running backs and in the backfield and out wide. Let's get to the Tennessee Titans where we had their star wide receiver, Calvin Ridley. He suffered a broken fibula out for the season. Also their wide receiver, Chimney dk, the talented rookie out of Florida. He suffered a concussion on a muff punt. So does this make either wide receiver Elic IO Manor, maybe one of the tight ends Chega quo or your boy Gunner Helm out of Texas, a sneaky play against the Seattle Seahawks next week. Bogs.
Scott Bogman
Maybe Chig Chiga Conquo would be the guy. Van Jefferson also played a lot of snaps today as well. So boring. Unbelievably boring. But maybe, you know, deep leagues, a DFS play something like that. But I mean, this offense isn't good anyway. Neither one of these running packs are any good. It's just ugly. I know they played Houston today too, but it was just a gross game. Like Cam Ward may be getting better, but we're probably going to see it the last month of the season, if anything. So, you know, I think next year is going to be a year for Cam Ward. Let's get him a little help in the receiver core and along the line there.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, I'm with you there. I think when it comes to a play for next week for fantasy managers though. I'm not afraid to run out either one of these tight ends, honestly, like Gunner Helm. Four receptions, 29 yards. The Seattle Seahawks. I tried betting against them this week because they give up so many tight end touchdowns, so many tight end points in general. I was on the wrong two guys. I was on Higby, I was on our boy Ferguson out there and ended up being Davis, the. The third tight end. Yeah. Who, who found the. The end zone there. So I think it is a susceptible spot for the Seahawks that you can take advantage of which way you want to go. I'm not sure. Chick hasn't scored a touchdown all year. Gunner Helm has been more of the red zone guy, so you can try your luck at one of those positions if you need it. But I'm kind of with box here, kind of a stay away, I don't think. Like, how deep would you have to be going for Ellik right here? Like probably like wide receiver for like you need a wide receiver spot.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, like, I just don't trust in this entire offense, honestly. Like, there's not really a trustable asset here. Ellick might be the best, but he is a maybe. Like it might be Van Jefferson like you said, it might be Chig. Maybe they run the ball a little bit more. Maybe they run those two tight end sets and Gunner gets it. So it's, you know, it's just a mountain of nothing right now from Tennessee.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, I mean, I think the last time Ella Gio Manor hit double digit fantasy points, I mean, you have to go way, way, way back. Yeah. I think right Now I'm seeing 7 for 44 on Sunday 28th September against Houston. So over. Over a month ago. Right. That's kind of where we're at right now.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I mean, I. A minor. He would be the guy. Just because there's nobody else left. That would be it, you know.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Scott Bogman
It's not like he's. Because, oh, hey, next man up. And this position's been great just looking at the scoring. He was wide receiver two once and that's it. Everything else has been below wide receiver three, every other finish. So wide receiver two, week two, and this is half PPR. He was 25th in week three. That's wide receiver three. Everything else is below wide receiver three. It's ugly, ugly, ugly.
Seth Wilcock
And I've been kind of like on the DK bandwagon over the last month or so, but I even. Even with Calvin Ridley out for the rest of the season. I think if you have to cut him this week when he's injured, probably gonna miss a game with a concussion. I'm okay with doing that right now.
Scott Bogman
So yeah, yeah, you don't need to hold on to DK for anything.
Seth Wilcock
So now also we had some pretty major injuries out there in the Steel City Bogs. We won the battle but maybe lost the war here with Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers. He did not play in the second half at all with a wrist injury. Never even came out of the locker room to my knowledge. And then also running back Jalen Warren, he suffered an ankle injury. We saw him come back in this game but then a timeout or something got called and he never actually took the snap and then did not come back into this one. So Bugs, what would having Mason Rudolph right in time for Christmas baby, back under center mean for the passing game? And how much of your remaining fab would you spend on Kenneth Gainwell if he's available? He scored just over 29 fantasy points for the second time this season. Only rostered in 42.2% of ESPN leagues as well.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I don't think this is going to be a long term injury for Warren. I was looking at the breakdown of it. They seem to think it's a inside sprain and not a high ankle so more of like that low ankle sprain. So I think there's a possibility that he could be back this week. But if not, I think it's a one to maybe two week injury. So I'm not bottoming out for Gainwell right here. I would probably. It depends on what you have left. It's hard to say percentages because some people have a lot left, some people have nothing left. I would, I would put them in the rotation of guys I'm trying to pick up for sure.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah but.
Scott Bogman
But know that it's probably a one to two week thing for Warren here. I don't know that the pass catchers change that much. They haven't been very good in Pittsburgh anyway. So with Mason Rudolph, I don't think a lot changes missing Aaron Rodgers. So super flex leagues. You got to go get Mason in case Rogers is going to miss an extended period of time. But we'll probably know more tomorrow on that.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, I mean DK Metcalf probably still like the low end wide receiver too. He's been most of the season for me, so. And Calvin Austin, you know he's that emergency plug and play flex play that you would probably Roman go to.
Scott Bogman
Roman is. Roman played way more snaps than Calvin today. It was like 38 to 19. So Roman might be the guy now.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. All right, well, good to know there. Would you go Emmanuel Wilson over someone like Kenneth Gainwell on the waiver wire if available?
Scott Bogman
Yeah. I mean, because of the potential for this injury to take a longer time, you know, the packers are looking for the playoffs, so I think you're going to err on the side of caution most weeks with Emmanuel Wilson. So I think that that is a longer term issue than Jalen Warren's ankle. So yes, I'd much rather have Emmanuel.
Seth Wilcock
Wilson dress asking how much fab you would spend on Mason Rudolph dress. I think we'd have to revisit this when we get the full diagnosis of what Rogers timeline is going to be if, if he's out for a couple weeks. Like I don't think I'm going crazy for Mason Rudolph unless I'm desperate for a quarterback. But like if this is an extended injury, I mean, I'm okay to back up. You know, not the full Brink truck form, but definitely roll out a little bit of coin. I have saved up, I think. Yeah.
Scott Bogman
And a super flex. You know, I'm in one league with dredis and I have $0 to spend left. So she'll get him if she has a buck left over me.
Seth Wilcock
So yeah, she got panicked hurt too as well. So tough scene out there for you, Dredis. Best of luck. Also Boggs not on the injury graphic, but we did see in the late slate Cleveland Browns quarterback Dylan Gabriel. He exited with a concussion. It was Shador Sanders time. There are some highs, there are some really bad lows in that game as well. But what do you expect of a guy's, you know, first start here and first real action in the NFL? How do you think that will change your rankings next week for Brown's pass catchers? If it is Shador Sanders under center vs Dylan Gabriel, keep in mind the matchup will be the Las Vegas Raiders in the Sin City.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I mean, I think it would be nice for Fannin guys that'll play on short routes. Maybe Judy is okay, but honestly it's just he's a better option at quarterback because it can pull the ball down and run with it. Right. And Dylan Gabriel just doesn't really do that. So I think, I think that Sanders, Sanders didn't do that a lot in college. He didn't really need to, but he definitely has the athletic ability to do it. So I would love to see him pull the ball down more and run with it. And bail out instead of, you know, throwing a questionable pass. So. And a lot of rookies do that. So I think we'll see that out of Shador Sanders maybe just a little bit more fantasy wise for the quarterback position in Cleveland. I don't think it changes the pass catchers much because they're both not very good.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, yeah. I mean, what you're rolling out Jerry Judy if you're like desperate, right?
Scott Bogman
I mean, if you're rolling out Jerry Judy, it doesn't change if you have Sanders or Gabriel in there.
Seth Wilcock
I think.
Scott Bogman
I think that's kind of the the point.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. Same with the tight ends. I think if anything it just means Quinn Shaw Judkin is going to get fed even more here.
Scott Bogman
Lots, lots of carries. It should be.
Seth Wilcock
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Seth Wilcock
Let's go ahead and get into the top five storylines of the week. And there's no better place bogman to start than with Sean Tucker taking over scoring 34 fantasy points against the Bills. I was all over Rashad White here. I I gotta be honest with you boss. I thought it was a big game for him in Orchard park today. Turns out it was Sean Tucker's day. 19, 106 and 2 on the ground for Tucker. Also add 2 for 34 and a score through the air on two targets. Rashad White 10 for 51 on the ground, 2 for 11 on three targets. Bogs. I am with my love for White this week, I have to say I am an og Sean Tucker stand since his days back at Syracuse. I thought it was really criminal that he went undrafted due to the health condition, but I really thought White was maybe set up for a league winning run down the stretch. Turns out that might not be the case though.
Scott Bogman
It yeah, but we've seen Sean Tucker do this, right? He bows up, he has an enormous performance and then he kind of goes back to obscurity. And that would probably be the case if Bucky Irving is going to end up playing this week. Now I don't know if Bucky plays this week and I don't, I honestly don't know if Bucky plays right like they say. They keep saying we still have to see him take contact. He went all week without doing any contact drills at all. So that is the massive hurdle that he still needs to cover and that has to be in the next two weeks or he's going to revert back to season ending ir. So I think that, you know, so we're looking for Bucky. And Rashad White still had more snaps. It was 43 snaps and 22 routes out of 71 for a shot and 31 and nine for Tucker. So Rashad White is still the guy they're using in two minute drills. He's still the guy that you're using on passing downs and third and longs and stuff like that. So he's still the main back. This was just a hot hand situation at the end of the game. Sean Tucker was hotter so he got the ball more. It wasn't a horrible game from Rashad White, but obviously Sean Tucker had a much, much better example here. So I think this, you know, without Bucky this is going to be hot hand. It's going to be close to 50, 50. So this week it was Rashad or was Tucker. I think maybe that gives him the 60, 40 over Rashad White next week. But it's still going to be very close and whoever is performing better midway through the game is going to get the ball.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. And yeah, I apologize to anyone that I told to not start Sean Tucker this week. I had a couple questions.
Scott Bogman
How are you supposed to call this? Like I had a buddy the whole week trying to trade, trade me Amari Di Mercado because Bam Knight was questionable and I had to start Sean Tucker in, in that league and he wanted to get Aiden Hutchinson because it's an IDP league and I don't have good offensive players. I just refused to do it and obviously Tucker worked out for me. So we're going to lose because that's my home league. But yes, that it paid off. Sean Tucker is fine. All those backup guys that are maybes are kind of go into a bucket but Sean Tucker is one of the better ones.
Seth Wilcock
28.6% roster right now in ESPN league. So Wilson, Gainwell, Tucker, where are you going ranking those guys rest of the.
Scott Bogman
Way it Tucker goes at the bottom, it would be Wilson, Gainwell and Tucker for me.
Seth Wilcock
Okay, so okay. Regardless of who's at running back for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers though, we certainly want to be invested there. Box because Rams and Cardinals the next two weeks and then four plus matchups to to end the season, the Saints, the Falcons, Carolina and Miami, those should all be smash spots. It's just going to get a little more complicated now trying to pick who it's going to be. Right. Because as you mentioned, there's going to be some White games and there's probably going to be some Tucker games. You don't think though this is like a situation where hey, Tucker had this game and he's going to get the bulk of the work over White if it is just these two for right now.
Scott Bogman
We thought that about Manangai a couple weeks ago and it didn't happen. Right. And we've seen this with Rashad White before that Tucker over outplays him and it still hasn't happened. So I think we're going to hear what we hear from Todd Bowles. Every time Sean Tucker goes off or has a good game, we need to get the ball to Sean Moore and then it doesn't happen. Right. And what does this look like if Bucky is back? Right. I'm pretty negative on Bucky but he could shut me up by, you know, going through practice this week and then now he's getting everything and who is the primary backup now? It's a question overshadow White versus Sean Tucker for anything. So yeah, that's why Sean Tucker would be at the bottom of that list for me because you know, I Gainwell has a role regardless and looks like Jacobs is going to miss time.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, I. It's tricky. It is very tricky out there. I will say Sean Tucker and his pass catching usage today and that big play down the seam that kind of remind me like this guy is a decent pass catching back. Just because he hasn't been asked to do this in Tampa Bay doesn't mean he didn't do that at Syracuse. I'd have to look back at his numbers there in college, but I know they were pretty good.
Scott Bogman
It was a lot of behind the scrimmage stuff at Syracuse, so he didn't like run routes and everything. But he's got hands and he's great with the ball in his hands, especially in space. So he can do it. He can absolutely do it.
Seth Wilcock
Let's go ahead and get to the next storyline of the week and it's Bryce Young and the Boys pull out, come back, win in overtime for the Panthers to beat the Falcons. Young was 31 of 45448 yards, three passing touchdowns, 31.8 fantasy points and four touchdown scoring formats. And right now he set a new career high in passing yards by 120 yards. And of course his pass catchers, they feasted in this one. Teterom McMillan, 8 for 130 and 2 on 12 targets for 33 fancy points. Xavier Legat, how about 4 for 83 and 1 on 8 targets? Jalen Coker, double digit or close to double digit fantasy points for the first time this season. Rico Daddle even got involved in the pass catching game. 555 on seven targets. Almost had my anytime touchdown, but I got called back there as well. So Boggs, I was on the record this past week. I was going all in. I was trading for Tetero McMillan, trying to hope for one a second half breakout like we see so many rookie wide receivers do. And also Bryce Young really improved down the stretch last year. Is that maybe coming to fruition starting here in week 11? And could we maybe even look to more of these pass catchers as worthwhile ads off the waiver wire?
Scott Bogman
Yeah, look, I'm not going to count on Bryce Young to do this again, I'll just say that, right? But I will admit that the last couple of weeks I've been saying, look, maybe get, get off of Tetaroa McMillan because this run game is running so well. You have Rico, you have Chuba, you can run both these guys now. It's been all Rico. Chuba still was down to like 16 snaps or something today to 45 or whatever it was for Rico. So it's the Rico show here. I just don't expect Bryce Young to have this type of performance. Right. This was the second QB1 performance this season. He had only the two top 12 finishes and five at 25th or lower. So QB3 in your standard 12 man leagues, you wouldn't even want him as your super flex in a lot in most weeks. So true. This could be nice. I mean we're getting a lot of banged up defenses right now and with more confidence. This is kind of what we wanted from Bryce Young to throw the ball this much. I just don't expect the whole game plan to change and for them to lean on Bryce Young. I think this was a nice back and forth game for him. I'll take it for what it is, but I'm not going to go buying up targets that aren't McMillan. I'm not going to go spend a lot on Leggett. I'm not going to go after Tommy Tromble after his big catcher.
Seth Wilcock
Would you add them for free at all?
Scott Bogman
I mean, yeah, sure. If Leggett is free after the waivers clear and you have someone at the end of your bench that you don't like. Sure, absolutely.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. And I have to, I have to give Bryce Young some flowers, man. Like it was a tough, pretty game for him. I mean he got stepped on a lot. Yes. There, there was one throw to Tedro McMillan. It was on a third down and he had a free rusher coming off the right side of line and he stood in their pocket and he delivered a dart. So I was really, really impressed by what we saw from him. That said though, I'm kind of with you that I don't think we can expect this. I think things will get better as, as I said earlier this week on a couple programs and I think I'm still in on Tet, I'm still in on Bryce, you know, potentially being a dynamic duo down the stretch. And the one thing I will point out too is like teams are starting to figure out, hey, the Panthers can run the ball pretty well this Rico Dowdle guy and they're starting to stack the box a little bit more and challenge Bryce Young. Last weekend's the Saints it didn't work out for Bryce Young. He couldn't deliver when he needed to hearing as the Falcons. It certainly did. And coming into this week just a little More confidence in Te McMillan. These stats have obviously changed on Sunday but Prior to that 10th and 10 + yard receptions, 9th and air yard share, 15th and first read targets 6.1 per game, 10th in deep target share and 10th in red zone targets. So those were kind of the numbers that were underlining that were kind of speaking to me this week. Boggs and why I was all in.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, look and the good your chops are great here by the way here because he only had one wide receiver one week before this and one wide receiver two week and five at wide receiver three or lower. So I think his half PPR wide receiver points per game. When you take out all those like guys that have played four or five games or less, he's about 34, 33. So a low end wide receiver three typically this season. But I think you're right. Hopefully down the stretch as rookies go, we will see more from him next.
Seth Wilcock
Storyline of the week and this one just befuddles me, honestly. I was on the Chargers to Win and they collapsed in Duval county. They lose 356 against the Jaguars. Outside of that first drive, they're really never in this game. Herbert just 10 for 18 for 81 yards. Interception 3 for 21 with his legs and nobody of his skill. Players broke double digit fantasy points. Keenan Allen 453 on six targets. Ronde Gaston II who was set up for a huge day in a really plus matchup against Jacksonville, 2 for 41 on six targets. LAD McConkey only 3 for 13 on four targets. QJ another donut on three targets. And then Vidal just 3 for 13 on the ground and 2 for negative one on two targets. Boggs, early this season this was looking like a situation where hey, all three of these wide receivers are borderline must starts. They're wide receiver twos. And then as Gadsden kind of emerged, it became Ladd who really started to raise above, become more of a high end wide receiver 2 option. Keenan Johnson became more of, you know, those wide receiver threes that you to play here and there. And then now I think it shifted again. Or was this just a bad performance? They're on by next week. Where will you have them ranked in Week 13 against the Raiders?
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I, I think I'll be pretty, I'll have them pretty nice against the Raiders here. Right. This was a bad game. You. They're still adjusting to losing Joalt and the other tackle I think is Bozeman. Right. So they're still making massive adjustments here and this offensive line is not played well at all this year, so. And dude, Justin Herbert is getting hated online. He is getting a lot of crap. He had a bad game obviously, but he got hurt, he got rattled. So he was not 100%. They were, they were getting their butts kicked. So they just took him out of the game at the end and put Trey Lance in there. So brutal. Just brutal everything. This is a big cross country trip for the Chargers to going all the way to the jet to Jacksonville. Yeah. So you know they're typically a afternoon start team as well. This is an early start all the way across the country missing your top two tackles. I'm going to chalk it up to that more than I am going to hate on Herbert. But this was a miserable day and if this is what it's going to look like, I mean Max Crosby, if he's healthy for that Raiders game is not going to be fun. They're going to have to adjust, they're going to have to chip. I think we're gonna see more two tight end sets out of this team or a fullback in there to protect Herbert moving forward, which takes a receiver off, which is not great for somebody probably. Qj if I'm guessing.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. And I think the most concerning part about this and part of my handicapping was I wasn't afraid of the tackles being missing in this game just because the Jaguars have gotten to the quarterback like bottom five in the NFL right there. Not good at getting sacks they did today. And so I am a little concerned, like, I think I am downgrading, especially. Qj We've seen a lot more Trey Harris and Les Keenan Allen running routes this season towards the back half of the year. So I think I'm a little bit down on those guys. But like, I think you still have to stand pack like you can't sell them off this game. Right. So there's nothing you can really do. Yeah.
Scott Bogman
I mean, maybe it's bad for Gadsden if they're going to go back to big tight ends to try to help these tackles. Like it could be bad for him. And J. Wood here says excuses. I think they're reasons. But any way you want, you can cut it. Like the Chargers were bad today. So maybe I'm giving. I think I'm giving reasons instead of excuses. I'm not excusing this at all. It sucks. But yeah, I think they'll be okay moving forward and it's nice to have a bye week after getting destroyed like this to make big adjustments.
Seth Wilcock
Hopefully we can get a little clear evidence or just something that we get a timeline for a Marian Hampton because we have no idea what's happening with him right now either. And I think he would give this team a good boost not only in the run game, but also pass blocking as well. I think Herbert could use him back there with him.
Scott Bogman
So. And Jay Wood says he's a Broncos fan or a Chiefs fan. So I get it. You hate, you hate your your division. I'm on board with that. We hate the Bengals here.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. Yeah. Also fourth storyline of the week. Boggs comes out there in Green Bay when they were on the road here in New York. Christian Watson comeback tour. It is officially on. Romeo Dobbs. He did lead the team in targets and receiving yards. Eight targets, four for 53. But Christian Watson caught four of five targets for 46 yards, two touchdowns. Shout to our boy Debro over there on the sleeper video that we did on Thursday that was released on Friday. Debo very high on Watson encouraged us all to start him, go pick him up if we Could Bob, you know, after seeing how things shook out against the Giants, where will Watson and Dobbs be you before you, you know, rest a season? Also kind of in that weekly rankings.
Scott Bogman
Mix, I think they're both wide receiver threes. Like, this is a great game for Watson. I I His upside obviously is higher, right, because he's a deep threat. He can have those massive swing games for you. One of these touchdowns was an accident. It was going to somebody else tipped off of him, went to Watson and he caught it right, like. And if you look at this performance, it's not too far out of his typical performances since he's come back. First week was four for 485 yards, four targets, two catches, 58 in a second, four catches, two targets 45. This was five targets, four catches, 46. But he got in the end zone twice, right. So his previous performances in happy PR gave him 30th, 48th and 46. So he's still going to be a borderline wide receiver three guy. I think most of the time now they should pass a little bit more. If Josh Jacobs is down right, you, you probably are going to pass a little bit more. So maybe a little extra there, push him up to, you know, higher end, wide receiver three, something like that. Him and Dobbs probably in that same bucket. But it just means you could cut everybody else. I mean, they bunch, they bench Luke Musgrave. This week it was John Fitzpatrick getting way more snaps. So Musgrave can be done. Golden is just never going to get going this season, in my opinion. So he can be done. There's nobody else that really matters here. It's Wilson, it's Dobbs, and it's Watson and that's kind of it even.
Seth Wilcock
I mean, we do have the potential of a third body coming back into this receiving core at some point though, as well. Boggs just with coming off ir. Yeah, yeah. Jane Reed, man, we got good news.
Scott Bogman
And then I've heard nothing, right? It's been radio silence on Jane Reed. A couple weeks ago was like, he's pretty close to this window opening and now nothing. So I would love to see Jane Reed come back. I think he's a big part of this, but until he does, we just kind of have to assume that he's not.
Seth Wilcock
Okay, all right, fair enough. Last headline of the week here. Josh Allen remains the quarterback. 1. The Bills beat the Buccaneers 44 to 32. I saw a lot of money late in the week coming in on the Buccaneers Buccaneers to cover, maybe even upset the Bills to get but they got to seven and three in Orchard park and it came via 19 of 30 for 317 yards, three touchdowns, two interceptions. Didn't look great. Hurley for Josh Allen, but then also goes for six for 40 and three touchdowns on the ground. So Boggs, I don't think there was a ton of concern over Allen, but is there now like no question about it. Rest of season quarterback, one qb, one for next year as well. It just feels like he has the highest ceiling right now, especially with Lamar Jackson being not what we wanted to invest in with a third or fourth round pick.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, Lamar is not 100% right now either, I don't think. But I think it's going to be those two guys again at 12 for next season. Obviously. I what are we doing with wide receiver for Buffalo? Can we draft one finally? We try. Keon Coleman's not working and he's late for a meeting so let's bench him completely. I guess it's his third. I think he gets traded in the offseason. By the way, I think Sean McDermott is tired of it. I don't think Keon Coleman is going to change. So Keon Coleman to the Raiders or something like Keon Coleman to Pittsburgh. I would love to have him in Pittsburgh.
Seth Wilcock
I mean, hey man, yeah, we'll take it right?
Scott Bogman
We have beggars can't be choosers. Let's get one. So I think we'll have some solution on the wide receiver market too. But Shakir should be continue to be the guy. Hopefully this, you know, hopefully Knox would get better but. And Kincaid will be back next week because Kincaid has been the dude. But yeah, this Josh Allen was great and he's finished as a QB one in eight of 10 weeks. So I don't expect anything to change here. He is the man.
Seth Wilcock
Okay, well congrats to everyone who had Josh Allen in the lineup. Apologies to anyone who maybe played against him. But hey, that's just the way it goes, baby. And let's keep it moving here. Into the panic meter. Go ahead guys. Drop your panic meter questions below. We'll rate those on a scale from 1 to 10. But first, I did want to remind everyone about our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. If you're listening this program, you're probably deep into stats, injury reports and matchups just like us. So go ahead and put your fans football knowledge to the test on Hard Rock bet. Try your first bet on Hard Rock today. Just place a $5 bet and if it hits you, not only get your winnings but also $150 in extra bonus bets. If you're not sure how to place your first bet on Hard Rock right now, go ahead over there to the Stats Hub. It's loaded with trends, streaks and stats to help guide your picks. Numbers don't lie and neither does the data in there. Check out the Stats Hub today. Get an edge and bet with confidence. The Hard Rock Bet Sportsbook app is the only legal sportsbook for whenever you're in the state of Florida. And it's also live in Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois and Colorado, coming to more states soon. Plus, Hard Rock Bet offers new promos every single day. So whenever you're listening, just open up the app and check out what they've got for you any day of the week. Download the Hard Rock Bet app now and make your first deposit payable and bonus bets.
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And let's go ahead and fire up the panic meter. Let us know below who you're panicking about and we'll rate them on a scale from 1 to 10 about how much we're panicking on them. One means, hey, we're not really panicking at all. Hold tight. And 10 means it's full blown panic mode. Boggs, let's get to the panic meter. And first one up here from our friend Pops. Thoughts on Cortland Sutton. Where's he on your panic meter?
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I think Cortland Sutton. You know, this is a Bonix issue as well. Tough matchup against the Chiefs today. I'm probably like a three and a half. It's not a nothing, but I'm not super panicked yet. I think the matchups will be better and Bonix will get better down the stretch. So he's probably going to be like a wide receiver. Two, three, borderline guy. Next. I think the Broncos are actually on a buy, so, you know, I'm not, I'm not panicked, but I see what you're saying and it's not fun.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, yeah, it hasn't been. Hasn't been great. Also, Nelson here. Panic meter. DK Metcalf without Rogers, I'm honestly not too concerned. Like, I do think Rogers and him have good chemistry. But Mason Rudolph, we saw it a few years ago back on that stretch where he really made George Pickens a thing down late in that 2023 season. So. I don't hate Mason Rudolph in this spot, do you, Bogs? And where's your panic meter on dk?
Scott Bogman
No, I mean, the time to panic for DK is probably a couple weeks ago.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Scott Bogman
I. I don't know that much changes with Mason out there. He's still going to be by far your heaviest targeted wide receiver for Pittsburgh because they just don't have anybody else. It's Roman Wilson, it's Calvin Austin and then the tight end. So. Yeah, and specifically with Jalen going down, you know, depending on how long that's going to be, I think. I think DK could get better just because of volume, not because Mason Rudolph is in there.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. One, we didn't have a question on, but I did want to bring up to you. What about the Vikings wide receivers? Obviously, Jordan Addison finds the end zone 2 for 20, gets a score as well. Justin Jefferson 5 for 61 on nine targets. So, like, the volume's been fine, but there just doesn't seem to be a lot of chemistry right now with J.J. mcCarthy. I mean, where do you have Justin Jefferson rest a season and also where you at on the panic meter for him? Because it feels like we're not going to ever get that value return for the first round investment. Top five investment in some leagues.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I think low, you know, low end wide receiver one is probably where I'm going to have Justin Jefferson because we should have been seeing these growing pains with McCarthy early in the year, but he got hurt. So, you know, we just haven't. We saw a lot of Carson Wentz and that was a problem. And now it's the young guy. I think once it unlocks, it's going to be unlocked and good. But that could be this week, you know, when week 12 coming up here. This could be the end of the season. So it's growing pains that we're going through now that should have happened earlier. I'm not, you know, you can't do anything with Jefferson. Obviously you're starting him. He's still your wide receiver. One, all of that. Most leagues are beyond their trade deadline now, so it's not like you're benching him. But you may want to play like if you play three, you may want to play a big upside guy in that. In that other section because, you know, as your wide receiver three or wide receiver flex, because we're just not sure 100% what we're getting from Jefferson on a week to week basis.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, I agree with you there. And a couple questions coming in about the Ravens. Derrick Henry, how are you feeling about him? And also, what's the panic meter level for Lamar Jackson? I've been on record a few times over the past week saying if you have another option to go ahead and trade Lamar like I was. See, you know, even if you had Joe Flacco or a Daniel Jones, someone in that vein, I was cool with moving Lamar for the value and the name that he comes with. I don't know what you're going to get for him coming off this game. So I think you do have to hold for at least one more week if you have it in your trade. But if your trade deadlines this week, what's your panic level on Lamar? Because you said it earlier in the program, he doesn't look like himself. Just 4 for 10 on the ground today. 1425, 193 through the air, two interceptions, no touchdowns for the former Heisman Trophy winner.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, that's a, that's a rough. I mean, look, Miles Garrett got to him four times. The O line is not doing any favors for Lamar right now. So. But again, I think this is a dude that if you were panicking, it was a couple of weeks ago, was the time to panic. You're not going to do much with them right now. You got to start him. You know, you're not benching Lamar. And once he gets back, I. As soon as Lamar has a good game, a lot of these guys that we're talking about, as soon as Lamar has a good game, everything's forgiven and everyone forgets that he was so bad. So I do think this was matchup. Plus, he's not 100%. I think the deeper we get, the better Lamar is going to look. So I'm not too worried. I'd say it's like a three.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. I'm probably closer to a five or a six, but I totally understand. And we have Juan asking here, like, should it be playing someone like Baker Mayfield? I think you have, if you have Baker Mayfield on your team, Juan, you trade the Lamar still see you as much as value you can get.
Scott Bogman
If you can.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah.
Scott Bogman
If you can't, I. That that's a fair matchup assessment. Right. Like I would say, let's just go based on matchups. So next week, Tampa Bay has Got the Rams and the Ravens play the Jets. You're playing Lamar against the Jets.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, you are.
Scott Bogman
You know, but, but, but that's fair and that's a good question. And so if you're holding on to both those guys and you can't trade right now, that's what you do. You're going to play matchups between those two guys until Lamar looks like Lamar again.
Seth Wilcock
And if you can trade like I would, I'd be okay with taking like an RB2 or a wide receiver two value back. Would you Bog? So like. Yeah, that's just not. Yeah, okay.
Scott Bogman
No, no, that's enough. In a one QB league. Absolutely.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. Okay. Great. There. I think that is about gonna do it for us. Panic meter. Oh, one more Jamar Chase. Zero for me. I just think what if he gets suspended.
Scott Bogman
He did spit right at, right at Ramsey. At least the video looks like it. So I would be worried about a one game suspension but Burrows coming back. So I, I think you're not doing much with Chase. So Burrow should be back in two weeks and you know, obviously everything's going to get better then. This is, you know, Joe Flacco in a bad situation with an injury and the Sealers wanting to lock down Chase because he embarrassed them last time. So I think Chase will be okay. I am worried about a suspension after that spit. I would assume the NFL doesn't want to take one of their best players off the field, so it's probably just a massive fine.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. Yeah. I honestly like worry, could Joe Flacco be actually an upgrade over Joe Burrow coming right back off the injury? Because that's kind of my only concern here when I. Why I would put maybe Jamar Chase on a one or a two just because what if Burrow comes back and we know he's a slow starter but.
Scott Bogman
What does one or two mean? Seth? That's my question. Like are we trading him?
Seth Wilcock
If I can get him. If I can maybe get someone else of top six value.
Scott Bogman
Like will you shame for Justin Jefferson straight up.
Seth Wilcock
Like no, no. JSN Puka. I would do, I would do those though.
Scott Bogman
Those guys for Chase. I don't think right now, not after this, not after this game. So. And a possibility of a suspension at least this second. You're not getting that.
Seth Wilcock
So Bijan or H. Chan, would you take one of those guys over Chase?
Scott Bogman
I take both of them over Chase. Yeah.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. Okay. Yeah, that's I guess just my only concern, Boggs.
Scott Bogman
But I understand. Yeah, I know. I get it. Like he's not where you drafted him. And that concerns everybody, but not where you drafted him. Doesn't mean that you, you can bench him. You just.
Seth Wilcock
Oh yeah, yeah. You can't. Yeah.
Scott Bogman
You can't bet like you're not playing matchups with that. You play matchups with Lamar. You can't play matchups with Chase because any week you could carry your entire team.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. I also just like him with Flacco because Flacco gives him like 20 targets a game sometimes.
Scott Bogman
Nobody else to pass.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah. So yeah, real quick, before we get to some more questions, go ahead and drop those below, folks, if you have any before we get out of here. You can also ask questions over on our fancy Pros Discord community. You can chat with other fans and get access to exclusive amas that actually wind up on our podcast feed. Our current schedule looks like this worm and fits at 5 Eastern on the first Tuesday of every month. Boggs and fits at 5 Eastern on the third Tuesday of every month. And then we also have our friends Welsh and Erickson. They're with you Every single Thursday, 2pm Eastern through the end of the season. So come get your questions answered and be on the show at fantasypros.com/chat and fire up the go ahead.
Scott Bogman
I was gonna say JE Lazarus just reminded us here that there were high winds in Cleveland today. That that was very, very windy game. So Lamar's passes were bad. So yes. Wanted to throw that in there.
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Seth Wilcock
I appreciate that. And let's go ahead and get to some questions as well for you folks before we get out of here. Anything you guys need help with, we will try to get to those right now. And we got one from Dredis. Was this our last overseas game? I believe this was our last overseas game, so no worries. Boggs, I know you're not an early riser either, so you probably don't. Don't.
Scott Bogman
I mean I wake up for halftime of those. I'm too late watching the college football. Right. Like I was watching BYU cash out for me too late. So I'm not waking up at 7:30 to watch this game. So just can't do it. I wake up at halftime. The Steelers game I woke up for. But that's it. I'm not going to wake up for these overseas games. They will not get my my eyeballs on them.
Seth Wilcock
So hey, I totally understand. I will say that I'm very happy the NFL continues to spread the game and even though it's a little bit of an inconvenience for us fans, especially if you're over on the west coast or you're in Central Time Bogs, that's an inconvenience. But at the same time, you know, I even miss usually the second half of these games. I'm either on a stream stream or I'm at church. So I do miss a lot of these. But at the same time, I love that we're continuing to spread the love of football to other countries. So it's an inconvenience. Yes. But let's continue to spread the love that is the NFL overseas. Excited about that? Let's get to a question here that have about a minute to actually get to Gavin. He's down by 23 tonight. He has AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, he has Brock Bowers and Ashton Genti. Do you think he has a chance?
Scott Bogman
Oh, yeah, yeah. Big chance. Yeah. Bowers could go off any of these guys could have a massive game. So, yeah, 23 points. And if they have nothing, then. Oh, he had. Wait a minute. It says he has A.J. brown.
Seth Wilcock
Yes.
Scott Bogman
And the other guy has to. You got a chance. I'll say outside. I thought you meant you had all four of these guys.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, we talking about same A.J. brown or Pickens tonight here for Pickens.
Scott Bogman
Pickens, Pickens.
Seth Wilcock
I'm with you. I'm with you on Pickens as well. Here's one from Dylan, who's the Colts handcuffed to own. Is it still the talented rookie there?
Scott Bogman
There is. It's Amir Abdullah now because Giddens hasn't even been active recently. So, okay, it would probably be Amir Abdullah, but there isn't one. If Jonathan Taylor goes down, they're going to split carries between both those guys and it's going to be disgusting.
Seth Wilcock
So I think I would rather take Giddens, though. Like if I. If I am looking for a legit handcuff because Giddens is the viola situation, right.
Scott Bogman
Like Hasan Haskins was the guy he was playing. But he's also brought a lot on special teams, as does Amir Abdullah. So Giddens is the Vidal in this situation as to he's not getting anything, but if something happens to jt, he could easily get more carries. I'm with you. I would want Giddens more, but I do think it'll be a disgusting 5050 split if anything happens.
Seth Wilcock
Last question here before we get out of here. Boggs from Bjork and I've seen some other comments as well. What do you think about RJ Harvey? Nelson also asking about him. Rather disappointing day overall considering he had the backfield to himself. For the first time, I knew Juliel McLaughlin or Baddie, one of these guys was going to play spoiler and steal and snipe a touchdown from it and it came to fruition. Bugs.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, that's frustrating. But that's the only frustrating thing, right, is that they do differ up these guys. But this was, you know, a rough game against Kansas City. You got to think that he's going to be the man and the better performances he has, the more they're going to be willing to go to him. Obviously, they got the buy coming up, but then this schedule is nice for the next couple of weeks. It's the Commanders, the Raiders, the Pack, and the playoff schedule is Packers, Jags. They ended the Chiefs, which is not good. But hopefully by that point, RJ Harvey has earned more and more and more with some huge games. He can really make up some ground against the Commanders and Raiders in his next two games. So I think he's going to be okay.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. And also I lied. One more question from our dear friend Dredis. If Vidal's injury is serious, I don't think it is. But if it is Boggs, who's up next till Omarion Hampton comes back, do they go Back to the 4 Michigan Wolverine?
Scott Bogman
I don't know if he's going to be good to go. I think might be Jarrett Patterson. Right.
Seth Wilcock
Patterson has him getting some run. Former commander. Yeah.
Scott Bogman
It also might be Mr. Outside Hire if that's the case. And O' Marion Hampton's not back.
Seth Wilcock
Yeah, I.
Scott Bogman
They're on a buy here. Right. So I think Hampton comes back after the buy anyway, so I think that's going to end up being the bottom line.
Seth Wilcock
Okay. Yeah. Michael Carter, I think, is still floating out there on a practice squad or two, so maybe they go out and like that.
Scott Bogman
So they absolutely should. Yeah.
Seth Wilcock
Guys, so much fun tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. That is going to do it for us, though, on this episode of the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast. Let us know down below your biggest F football winners and losers for Week 11 of the NFL season. We want to hear from you in the comments. Also, make sure you're smashing that, like, button on YouTube and subscribing to the show. We'll be live here next week, same place, same bad channel. You know where to find us. Where my good pal, Scott Bogman. I'm Seth Wilcock. Take care, y'. All. Have a great rest of your Sunday. Thank you. See you.
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Week 11 Fantasy Football Reactions & Injuries + Early Week 12 Waiver Wire
Episode 1846 | November 17, 2025
Hosts: Seth Wilcock & Scott Bogman
This episode covers all the wild action from NFL Week 11, zooming in on key injuries, unexpected breakout performances, and the early moves you should consider for the Week 12 waiver wire. Seth and Scott ("Bogman") bring their trademark blend of expert advice and friendly football banter. Expect breakdowns of every fantasy-relevant development, updated rest-of-season outlooks, and top picks to help you win your league down the stretch.
(Starts ~03:01)
Josh Jacobs (Packers RB): Left with a knee injury (likely PCL sprain, 2–6 weeks out).
Atlanta Injuries:
Tennessee Titans:
Steelers’ Situation:
Browns QB Update:
(Starts ~16:54)
(Starts ~36:05)
| Player | Panic Level | Comments | |---------------------|-------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Courtland Sutton | 3.5 | Matchups improve; he’s a border WR2/3. | | DK Metcalf | 1–2 | Not worried; volume remains regardless of QB; could improve if Warren is out. | | Justin Jefferson | ~3 | Low-end WR1 rest-of-season; growing pains with JJ McCarthy; volume is still good. | | Lamar Jackson | 3–5 | Some concern (slow, banged up, bad OL); play matchups, still can explode any week. | | Jamar Chase | 0–2 | Not dropping or benching; possible suspension for spitting but otherwise hold tight.| | Other Ravens (Derrick Henry) | N/A | Henry’s fine; more focus on matchups and game script. |
Quote:
“You can play matchups with Lamar, but you can’t play matchups with Chase. Any week, he can carry your entire team.” — Scott Bogman (43:24)
Other notes:
(Starts ~44:44)
On Week 11’s chaos:
“What a day it was, my friends. With a slew of game winning kicks, backup quarterback play, and superstars coming out of nowhere. We’ll break it all down for you from a fantasy perspective.” — Seth Wilcock (00:36)
On embarrassment of TN skill players:
“It’s just a mountain of nothing out there for Tennessee.” — Scott Bogman (07:38)
On Sean Tucker:
“All those backup guys that are maybes go into a bucket, but Sean Tucker is one of the better ones.” — Scott Bogman (19:07)
On the Chargers mess:
“I think I’m giving reasons instead of excuses. I’m not excusing this at all, it sucks.” — Scott Bogman (29:09)
On Jamar Chase and Flacco:
“I also just like him with Flacco, because Flacco gives him like 20 targets a game sometimes.” — Seth Wilcock (43:32)
Waiver Priorities:
Rest-of-Season Trends:
Add/Drops:
Week 11 was a "wild Sunday slate" full of surprise fantasy heroes, with big injury fallout and new waiver priorities. The hosts' advice leans toward aggressive FAAB spending on worthwhile RBs and holding top talent through lean weeks, but they urge flexibility—and continually playing the matchups, especially at QB.
Don’t panic unnecessarily, but stay vigilant—and have your waiver claims ready for what’s shaping up to be a dramatic fantasy playoff push.
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