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Week 13 Fantasy Football Quarterback and Tight End Rankings: Studs, Sleepers, and Must-Starts (Ep. 1869)
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Pat Fitzmorrison
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Sophie Cunningham
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Chris Welsh
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Chris Welsh
What's up friends? And welcome into Fantasy Pros, the fantasy football podcast. I'm Chris Welsh with Pat Fitzmorrison, Andrew Erickson for the quarterback and tight end. Week 13 ranks episode we are here with the top 12 on the big board of each of these positions and players outside that you might want to take a look at. Happy holidays or shopping or really just Saturday, Friday, whatever it is, wherever you are listening to this Fitzy. It has been a big ranks week with all of the craziness. Quarterbacks and tight ends just give a grade a comfort level of the quarterback and tight ends this week versus the core guys or the options outside the top 12 to go from.
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Pat Fitzmorrison
Oh man, I'll say C plus at quarterback because the top options look pretty solid but I get real uncomfortable outside the top 14 or so. And tight end maybe a little bit better. We'll give it a B. I think there's some decent streaming options and you know, at least two or three good high end options.
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Chris Welsh
Okay, so tight end depth a little bit better than quarterbacks this week. Erickson, Same thing. What's your what's the vibe check on quarterbacks and tight ends, the core players and the depth.
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Andrew Erickson
Never wrong. Just one week early on Taysom Hill, let's go.
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Chris Welsh
Okay, that's what we're going to do. Yes, we are going to talk about Taysom Hill.
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Andrew Erickson
I mean last week I was like all about Taysom Hill and the guy had all the opportunities in the world to get it done and it didn't work out.
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Chris Welsh
So I actually don't even have Jason Hill on the rank sheet. But we will talk about him. We will, we will add him. So you can do that 100%.
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Andrew Erickson
I mean we can't talk quarterbacks and tight ends and not talk about Taysom.
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Chris Welsh
Hill, the guy that is a quarterback.
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Pat Fitzmorrison
Slash tight end who's actually a running back, but masquerading as those two other positions.
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Chris Welsh
Yeah. Has there ever been. He's a quarterback and tight end who's actually a running back, sometimes a kick returner, occasional wide receiver, and also sometimes doesn't do any of it. So he is the weirdest, weirdest player in the NFL. All right, so we are going to go through the. The big board on each one of those and we'll get to that in one second. We do like to talk about giveaways, though. So before we start up, this is your chance. And if you want a chance to win the crown jewel of any fantasy football league, the perpetual fantasy football trophy, courtesy of our good friends at Trophy Smack, the number one destination for epic fantasy football hardware, then this is your shot. This gorgeous black trophy comes with a perpetual base so you can engrave your league champion year after year. It's not just a prize, it's a legacy piece. To enter, all you've got to do is subscribe to the Fantasy Pro's YouTube channel right now and drop a comment below on any of our videos. That's it. We'll be announcing a winner right here on the channel. So turn on noties so you don't miss your chance to claim this awesome prize. I know you love Noties, Erickson. That's always the one that you love.
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Andrew Erickson
It's like when my wife says, we're gonna watch an EPI tonight.
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Chris Welsh
An epi? Yes, absolutely. EPI is a different meaning, but we can do episodes too. All right, let's get into the quarterback rankings. We got the top 12 here for the ranks, starting with Patrick Mahomes as your number one quarterback for the week and a five star rating. Josh Allen comes in at two. Lamar Jackson at three. Jalen Hurts, Drake May and Matthew Stafford at four at six. Your seven through 12 is Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Dak Prescott, Jacoby Brissette, Bo Nix, and Jared Goff. As just an aside, watching Matthew Stafford, it's hard to not have him as the number one quarterback every week. You don't have to do that for this rank stuff. He is just boy, he is something else right now. He can just do what he wants at will. Comes in at six here because it's a great matchup. Frankly, he might be at 6 simply because they might do the same thing they did with the Bucks. He just throws three touchdowns in the first 18 minutes of the game. And then they just run the ball and don't have to do anything else. So that could hurt. But the quarterbacks that we are going to talk about, we got a couple quarterbacks that are outside of this range. But the one I thought that was really interesting now that I look at it, I suppose Bo Nix you could throw into this is Jacoby Brissett. Jacoby Brissette had yards. He did not have touchdowns. It's maybe questionable decisions. Last week we had him high in the ranks, didn't quite live up to it. But he's right back there again at QB10 and it's because it's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who just got shredded. You guys have him both, it looks like, at 11. So Fitzy, why don't we start with you. What's your confidence level in Brissette after. It seemed like there was a high level of confidence last week and it was okay. It was fine. How do you feel about him going into Tampa Bay and then just as a side note, maybe like him versus Bo Nix, who. Which side do you have?
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Pat Fitzmorrison
So I'm feeling pretty good about Jacoby Brissette mostly because of the passing volume. I've got him one spot behind Bo Nix just because the matchup against the Commanders is so good. The Commanders are averaging. They're giving up almost nine yards per pass attempt, which is like so much higher than anyone else in the league. The next worst pass defense, Dallas, whoever it is, Washington is just a sieve as far as their past defense. So don't like Brissette's matchup quite as much against the Buccaneers. But the Buccaneers are, they have a good run defense that that's what they do with Todd Bowles. They stuff the run. So we feel pretty good about Kobe Brissette's passing volume and in his last three games he has thrown a ton of passes. 44, 57 and 49 pass attempts in those three games. So Cardinals running game is kind of a hodgepodge right now. Maybe they get Trey Benson back this week, maybe they don't. Bam Knight wasn't really effective last week, Michael Carter. So they're going to throw a lot against the Buccaneers and that's what we like, the passing volume.
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Chris Welsh
And you know, also to throw on top of all of it a NFL completion record that Jacoby Brissette got as well. So that was pretty handy. Erickson, what do you think about Brissette as well, Brissette vs Bo Nix for this week?
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Andrew Erickson
So I also have Bo Nix ranked ahead of Jacoby Brissette I don't really have anything else to add with Brissette. Just like if you're going to throw the ball 50 times, it's is really hard not to be fantasy QB1. Even if you don't necessarily play the quarterback position in real life. That fantastic should be a shootout against Tampa Bay. It's pass final defense. We know that the Cardinals can't really run the ball without Trey Benson. So I think Brissette. Yeah. Have you been starting him? There's no reason to look elsewhere this week. I think if you picked him up and you're streaming him. I am curious though, Fitz, I know last time you did Dak Prescott over Bo Nicks. Are you doing that again here with the Dak playing the Kansas City Chiefs?
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Pat Fitzmorrison
Yes, I am. I expect a shootout and look at the weapons Dak has. Like it's we get a Vegas those.
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Andrew Erickson
Same weapons last time against Denver and that.
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Pat Fitzmorrison
Well that was against Denver. But you know, last week I was a little above consensus on Dak and it worked out pretty well. So I'm, I'm still a believer in this offense. I don't like that Tyler Guyton is going to be out for a while. That's, that's one issue. So maybe that might get me to eventually slide Dak behind B Knicks. But for right now, I, I who's better, man? I mean da Dak is 10 times the quarterback Bo Nicks is. And I know Matt, Matt, I don't disagree but then again I made that case last time and I, I proved wrong about it when Dak played Denver and was you're doubling down, man. Stuffed in a locker. So but this is Casey's pasty is not quite as impregnable as Denver's one guy.
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Chris Welsh
You know, people will be like of course you want to talk about him but I think it's important to talk about especially when you were going through fits like the depth of like hey, I like the starters. And then things get into question. Is Brock Purdy? Brock Purdy is ECR15 this week. You guys both have him lower and rightfully so. He was horrific in that game that they shouldn't have won with not just bad picks but bad decisions across the board. He looked like a remake a rerun of Jimmy Garoppolo. I was screaming for Mac Jones in that game game. And then you're going to throw in the Browns in this one. The 49ers quarterbacks have been relatively chalk of like it's 202 touchdowns. But Brock Purdy looks so bad Ricky Piercel is not involved in the offense. It's very one dimensional. Like there's a lot of problems with the 49ers and I think Brock Purdy has gone from like a solid, streamy type of quarterback to someone that you really can't take a look at. And Erickson, you have them the absolute lowest of anybody. You got him at 20, Fitch. You got him at 17. Erickson. We have to avoid Brock Purdy this week, correct?
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Andrew Erickson
Yes. Look, I am definitely the lowest person in ECR on Joe Burrow this week. I would still start Joe Burrow over Brock Purdy because I'm even lower on Purdy this week. This is the awful, awful matchup Cleveland in November on the road. Miles Garrett, especially with how pretty played against the Carolina Panthers. Like atrocious throwing pick after picking, not reading the field, not reading the defense very well. So I mean if he comes out, throws another couple picks, think Shanahan's going to keep him in? Like, like, like that's something that kind of, it crosses my mind again ever since Fitz brought up the thing about Justin Fields getting bench, like, that's now something I'm like considering with, hey, this quarterback starts out really, really bad. Are we going to get garbage time, production or production late in the second half? So that's a concern for me. I would stay as far away from Brock Purdy as possible this week.
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Chris Welsh
Yeah, Fitz, I mean, you got him lower. I don't know if you have any other big take and it's, you know, maybe even need to go lower on him. But yeah, I think everything is screaming. This is a horrifically bad spot that, yeah, maybe in a super flex you can put him out there. But you know, he wasn't just making like bad reads. It was the throws that were bad. Like he was off it to the point where I don't think they would ever bench him. But there might be a soft guys, Brock Purdy's just not healthy enough. Let's get Mac Jones. Like that's how they would bench him. They would never kill the confidence. But what say, you know, can you start Brock purdy in week 13 the.
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Pat Fitzmorrison
Way he was sailing throws Walsh, I thought they had snuck JJ McCarthy into a 49ers totally. So, yeah, it was, it was pretty bad. Right now I've got purdy at quarterback 17, which is kind of saying I don't want to start him very much. The only, the only tough call here and you know, like not to give myself a pat on the back, but like I've done A pretty good job of ranking Jordan Love. And just like I feel like Jordan Love has been a little bit overranked for how the packers want to play, which is conservatively and at a slow pace. So right now I've got Purdy one spot ahead of Jordan Love. I might flip flop those two especially, man, late November in Cleveland. Like, we're. We're probably going to have lousy weather for this game, aren't we? Like, I know here in the Chicago area it is supposed to be like cold and snowy this weekend, so I would imagine it's going to be pretty similar in Cleveland. Yeah. And I think I'm going to do that right now. So Brock Purdy is going to be my quarterback. 18 can't move him any lower than that because I like, I don't want to have him below Tyrod Taylor. I don't really want to have him below Daniel Jones, who has to go against the Texans, who've not given up a quarterback one season all year or quarterback one week all year. Yeah.
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Andrew Erickson
So what about your boy Kirk Cousins with Darnell Mooney?
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Pat Fitzmorrison
Yeah. No, no. Kirk Cousins is not going to be. They. They're going to continue to try to hide Kirk cousins who had 23 pass attempts last week.
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Chris Welsh
I want to play Brock Purdy as much as I want to play Shador Sanders. So I'll just put it at that at this point. Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold is QB16 on ECR. You guys are in a little different feelings. Fitzy, you're kind of on the lower end or more the ECR rank. Ericsson's going to be on the high. What's your take on Sam Darnold for this week? Do you have them above. Who is it you just said the Brock Purdy and Jordan Love. Do you have Darnold above them?
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Pat Fitzmorrison
Just ahead of those guys and just behind Trevor Lawrence. And it's, it's not that I hate the matchup against the Vikings. I just worry that the Vikings won't be able to push the Seahawks at all in this game with Max Brosmer at quarterback. And the Seahawks will go run heavy if they can. They have shown us that Sam Darnold has thrown fewer than 30 passes in seven of his 11 starts this year. So my fear is that we get like 22 pass attempts for Sam Darnold in a game that the Seahawks win by three touchdowns.
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Chris Welsh
Erickson, what do you think on Sam Darnold? You are higher. You actually have him at 12, so vibes are very high for you on Sam Darnold.
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Andrew Erickson
Yeah, well, I do think that the Seahawks will probably kill the Minnesota Vikings, and in that case they put up 30, 35 points. Yeah, it's possible that it's the running backs that eat or buckle up. Guys, we're going down narrative street. Sam Darnold facing his old team, the Minnesota Vikings. Let's get him some passing touchdowns. Let's get JSN three touchdowns and 200 receiving yards because we want him to break the record. I think that we're at a spot here where I couldn't believe this, but JSN has already broke the all time Seahawks receiving yards record. DK Metcalf held like over 1300 yards. And it's week 12. Absolutely bonkers. So in a matchup where, oh, we can put up points, Sam Darnold facing his old team that didn't want him, that wanted to go with JJ McCarthy and it looks like an absolutely disastrous decision. Dude, give me Sam Darnold. I think that he's going to be dealing. I think he's going to be motivated and I think when the giving opportunities in the red zone, I don't think it's going to be Charbonnet. I don't think it's going to be Ken Walker. I think it's going to be Sam Darnold. Jsn, pad those stats, baby.
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Chris Welsh
Oh, pull up. Alexa. Turn right at Narrative Street. Like I'm all for it. Turn right at Narrative Street. I am with you. Let's go, baby. Let's go. I'm changing my directions immediately. All right, let's go to tight ends. Tight ends getting through the quarterbacks here. We've got the top 12 board. Starts us with Trey McBride at number one, George Kittle. Nothing crazy on the top end of these guys. Brock Bowers at 3, Travis Kelce at 4. Tyler Warren. Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews is a big old nothing burger always, but it's just a great matchup. So that, that's one I kind of have an issue with. Ronnie Gadson comes in at seven, Jake Ferguson, Hunter Henry, Dallas Goddard, Kyle Pitts, and Juwan Johnson. You know, I have to ask this one. 50. Let's, let's start with you then. Just real quick, Mark Andrews, where do you have him ranked? He does nothing every single week. Are you comfortable literally putting him in as like a top seven or eight tight end just because it's the Bengals?
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Pat Fitzmorrison
Yep. Tight end six. I mean, everyone just rocks the Bengals. I. Isaiah likely is a good spot start DFS option. Like everyone, every tight end just destroys the Bengals. Remember that came against Pittsburgh where like every Pittsburgh tight end had a touchdown against the Bengals. Like just every tight end eats against Cincinnati.
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Chris Welsh
Erickson, same thing with you. I mean, I know you're a Mark Andrews guy. He just, he does nothing every single week. So this is going to be the week where he catches two touchdowns. You have him as a tight end six or seven.
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Andrew Erickson
He might catch three Touchdowns, to be honest. Exactly. This is just when watching the Patriots Bengals game last week. Dude, like, there's. There was literally no one around Hunter. I know the entire game. The guy's like, wide open. The Bengals are like, no, we're going to lock down the number one wide receiver even though we can't stop the run.
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Pat Fitzmorrison
It's like we're going to stop Stefan.
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Andrew Erickson
Diggs at all costs. And Patriots like, sick. And then once Drake may finally figured out that the tight ends are not being covered, dude, he just ripped it to Hunter Henry. Even Austin Hooper was productive in that game. So we know Mark Andrews has a ton of touchdown equity from the tush push that they run with him and the fact that he always gets red zone targets. He should have caught a touchdown last week. So I get what. Lamar has obviously been really disappointing in fantasy. He had some opportunities last week to convert some more touchdowns against the Cincinnati Bengals. This is so obvious of a smash spot for Mark Andrews. Like, it's crazy to think that we're really moving up a guy. I. I mean, I have him four. Like, like, besides Trey McBride, like, dude, Brock Bowers, like, Kelsey, if he catches a touchdown, maybe he could outscore Mark Andrews. But dude, I'm. I'm throwing some. Some two touchdown bets on Mark Andrews for Thursday Night Football.
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Chris Welsh
Like, just dropped the dude on us too. He's like, dead like, dude. That's the breakdown every.
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Pat Fitzmorrison
Every year there's the team that just can't cover tight ends. Like last year was the Panthers. But has there ever been a bigger welcome mat for tight ends than the Bengals this year, like, everyone. Everyone eats against Cincinnati. It's. It's skyline chili and graters. Ice cream for everyone. Every tight end you face is the Bengals. It's absurd.
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Chris Welsh
The thing that does work really well in it because, like, this one also is a little bit narrative street because it's just like, it's an incredible matchup. But also if you look like Lamar Jackson's been bad, Mark Andrews is not getting targets and stuff like that. But it is such a good matchup. The thing that works really well is look at the. You know, just turn around and look at the trail behind him. It's not a bunch of trailblazers, you know, Kyle Pittsburgh disappointment without Drake, London, Goddard and Hunter. I mean, Hunter Henry is an interesting one and they got the Giants this week and he's a big touchdown equity guy and he gets a volume. So I think there's maybe an argument there. Gadsden's been a little bit Phased out. So I do think there's some guys that you can have the discussion about. But to be fair, it's not like there's like these amazing tight ends behind it. You want to play upside. It is an incredible matchup for Mark Andrews and that's why he sits there. Another really interesting tight end. We move out because this is like the core players you're most likely not, you know, not starting the Goddard's and the Henrys and even the Joanne Johnson I think is a good matchup. But Brenton Strange just. Brenton Strange entered the chat at tight end 14 this past week. Got some targets, got yards. You guys have them right around the same general range. Is Britain Strange. One of the reasons why the tight end depth feels better than the quarterback depth. Let's start with you, Erickson. What are your, what are your vibes on Breton Strange knowing that Brian Thomas could be back as well this week?
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Andrew Erickson
I love Bren Strange this week. I think that he is a borderline tight end fantasy. One the thing with Trevor Lawrence is, and this is something I wish I considered more in terms of Brian Thomas Jr's ranking this year is who have been the most successful wide receivers in Trevor Lawrence's career. It's been Evan Ingram as a tight end and Christian Kirk as a slot wide receiver. Brian Thomas Jr. Is neither of those things. So of course he's bad with Trevor Lawrence. Meanwhile, Jacoby Myers, I mean Jacobi Myers has been productive like he showed up three weeks ago and he's like been pretty productive for three straight weeks because he's a slot receiver that Trevor Lawrence fits in really well stylistically. Brenton Strange misses all this time with injury, immediately comes back and immediately goes back to Trevor Lawrence as his go to guy as a tight end. So yeah, like these are the guys that Trevor Lawrence feels comfortable throwing the ball to. He Breton Strange is Trevor Lawrence's safety net. It's a good matchup against the Tennessee Titans. So yeah, I mean if Strange is out there on waivers again, he was dropped in a lot of leagues because he got hurt. But I know I had to start him last week in a dynasty league because it was either him or TJ Hawkinson. And I was like not a chance going back to TJ Hawkinson. I'll play the guy coming off injured reserve. So that ended up working out and I think you got to go right back to it.
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Chris Welsh
Fitz, do you think that Brenton Strange belongs in the tier of like the Juwan Johnson's, the Kyle Pitts? I think Theo Johnson's right outside of that or is he the start of the next tier?
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Pat Fitzmorrison
No, I think he does belong in that tier. And for reasons Erickson outlined, I mean, Trevor Lawrence, it does seem like he would rather throw to tight ends than to, you know, Brian Thomas. Never mind that he has the total package of like, size, speed and everything. But yeah, I mean, a couple of years ago, Evan Ingram had 143 targets and 114 catches playing with Trevor Lawrence. And like, we just got reminded about how much Trevor Lawrence loves throwing the tight ends when Breton Strange came back after not being around for weeks and immediately five catches for 93 yards.
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Chris Welsh
All right, final one here is Colson Loveland, who has been a big positive, but we don't seem to be sharing big, major positive vibes on him this week. It is against Philly. He comes in at 16. You guys both have him at 17. Fitzy, why don't you take us home with your thoughts on Colson level and he's behind Brenton Strange. He's behind quite a few of these guys. Maybe he is the start of the next tier of tight ends.
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Pat Fitzmorrison
Yeah, Loveland has looked so good lately. He is a guy I'm going to be really excited about drafting in 2026, but the Eagles are just so tough on tight ends. Philly is giving up the second fewest fantasy points per game to tight ends behind only the Bills. So I think this is kind of a week to cool your heels on.
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Chris Welsh
Colston, Loveland, Erickson, your rank kind of says the same thing, but do you agree? Do we need to chill on Loveland for this week and is he in the tier? Is he the bottom tier of the, like, you know, the Schultz, the Theo, Theo Johnson's or is he in the next top tier of this next grouping?
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Andrew Erickson
I think he's at the bottom of that tier because I think that worst case scenario, if you got to start Colson Loveland, I don't think that you're dead on arrival. I mean, he's been really consistent despite the fact that he's still kind of been splitting snaps in certain games. With Cole Comet, he has three or more catches in six straight games. And like Fitz said, the dude is just good at football. Like, he looks like an absolute monster. And once he gets fully unlocked, when Cole Comet leaves next year in free agency, I'm right there with Fitz. It's like, who's going to be this year's Tucker Craft? It's going to be Colson Loveland. Like, like I feel very strong thinking about that for 2026 tight end rankings that Loveland is going to be that guy. But the matchup is obviously brutal against the Philadelphia Eagles, so that's where you're most concerned. That and probably more of a floor play. If he finds the end zone, you're obviously glad that you started him. But I think there are probably more better tight end options just this week.
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Chris Welsh
Well, you guys can find all those options over@fantasypros.com rankings go through there. You can see the ECR as it changes all the way to kickoff. To make all your big tough decisions, make sure you download the Fantasy Pros app for all of your other big decisions, whether it is are they playing? Who should I start, the moves I should make autopilot. Just sync your leagues. You can still do it. At this day, even though we are like a week away or two weeks away from the playoffs, we still got you covered. And make sure you subscribe on all platforms, podcasts, YouTube, Twitch. We got live shows. We got all the other great shows to help you for this week. That is going to do it. Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Black Friday or just football. Whenever you are listening to this For Andrew Erickson and Pat Fitzmaurice, I'm Chris Welsh. We'll talk to you next time right here on Fantasy Pros.
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