Week 15 Fantasy Football Reactions & Injuries + Early Week 16 Waiver Wire (Ep. 1899)

Summary

FantasyPros Fantasy Football Podcast - Episode 1899
Week 15 Fantasy Football Reactions & Injuries + Early Week 16 Waiver Wire
Hosts: Scott Bogman & Tara Roberts
Date: December 15, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode is a jam-packed reaction show covering all the key happenings from Week 15 of the fantasy football season. With major injuries hitting stars like Patrick Mahomes and pivotal performances affecting playoff matchups, hosts Scott Bogman and Tara Roberts offer sharp, on-the-fly analysis and look ahead to early Week 16 waiver wire adds. The show also includes “panic meter” checks on key players, advice for navigating challenging backfields, and answers to listener questions for those pushing toward their fantasy football championships.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Injury Roundup & Implications

(00:35 - 08:45)

• Patrick Mahomes goes down (likely ACL):

  • "Unfortunately, I think we're going to be without him remainder of the year there and it just kind of puts us in a position where we're looking ahead to next year with our Chiefs players." – Tara (02:26)
  • Gardner Minshew is presumed to step in. Tara notes the situation may mirror what we saw with Marcus Mariota for Washington.

• Other Major Injuries:

  • Rome Odunze (DNP, close to returning?), Woody Marks, Christian Watson, Davante Adams (hamstring), Puka Nacua (late exit), Devin Neal (hamstring).
  • “Which one concerns you the most?”
    • Tara points to Devin Neal:
      • “We've become very comfortable with him, especially PPR... Now, all of a sudden, we have to potentially turn to Audric Estime. I don't [feel] comfortable with this backfield now." (04:10)

• Backfields in Flux:

  • Jawhar Jordan solid with Woody down; Michael Carter (ARI) vs Jawhar Jordan for waiver priority.
  • Tara prefers Jordan, noting:
    • “It does seem like he would have the bulk of the carries there.” (05:56)

• Other Fallout:

  • Rams WRs: “Parkinson and Whittington. I guess Tutu Atwell with the Rams as well.” - Bogman.
  • Saints: Might have to “abandon the backfield” if Kamara and Neal are both out.

2. Week 15 Storylines: Playoff Heroes & Heartbreakers

(11:13 - 17:14)

• Playoff Push Performers:

  • James Cook, Trevor Lawrence (6 total TDs), Kyren Williams, Swift, Tracy, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Nico Collins, D.J. Moore, Trey McBride, Dallas Goedert, Dawson Knox all called out for monster fantasy output. (11:13)
  • Tara: “Travion Henderson helped and hurt me... Amon-Ra St. Brown, would you believe that I faced Amon-Ra and Jameson stacks in multiple leagues? That's not fun.” (13:04, 13:46)
  • Bogman: “James Cook got me in one, eliminated in three, pushed me in one and eliminated me in three.” (11:13)

• Least Believable Breakouts:

  • Tara: “It’s Tyrone Tracy. Because we have seen zero consistency with the Giants... Sometimes they get cute and switch things up.” (14:20)
  • Both hosts agree D.J. Moore is more trustworthy, especially if the Bears’ WR group is depleted.

• Biggest Disappointments:

  • Non-performing backs: Judkins, Breece Hall, Genti, Kareem Hunt; WRs: Stefon Diggs, Lad McConkey.

3. Concern Check – RB and WR Trust Issues

(16:21 - 21:47)

• Breece Hall – No Trust

  • Tara: “0 trust level on Breece Hall. That’s a super easy one.” (16:21)

• Quinshon Judkins – Perplexing Dud:

  • “That one is the most perplexing one that was very strange in terms of him being a real dud.” (16:21)

• Stefon Diggs & Lad McConkey Worries:

  • Tara: “My concern level with McConkey... this is it. But Stefon Diggs... if there was a game for him to have stepped up, should’ve been this one.” (17:36)

• Joe Burrow’s Remorseful Week:

  • Bogman: “Joe Burrow also, miserable day... I just kept expecting him to... be fine. But they didn’t score a point.” (18:37)
  • Tara on Bengals: “The only person that appears to be in a good place is Jamar Chase.” (19:16)

4. Looking Forward: Streaming, Waivers, and Panic Meter

(21:47 - 44:59)

• Backfield Shakeups:

  • JCM (Jakori Croskey-Merritt) gets a bump if Chris Rodriguez is out.

    • Tara: “...if Chris Rodriguez is out, he’s talented enough that he should produce. No pass-catching upside, but enough for RB2 value.” (22:38)

  • Chargers RBs – Vidal vs. Hampton:

    • Committee confirmed; not much fantasy ceiling. (27:53)

  • Carolina RBs – Rico vs. Hubbard:

    • Tara: “It’s weird, because Chuba had become the more productive back. I do. I still think it's committee. I still think it’s hot hand.” (28:55)

  • Ricky Pearsall Bounce Back:

    • “Pierceall is apparently back on the table here... everyone did well. This was a really good, well-rounded fantasy game from all of the pass catchers there.” (30:19)

• QBs & Surrounding Weapons:

  • Gardner Minshew: Still trust Rice & Kelce vs TEN, but Denver in Week 17 is tougher. (24:46 - 25:33)
  • Rivers (return of the old man): "Pittman and Downs are the more trustworthy options over Alec Pierce." (25:33)
  • Trust level for surrounding pieces remains solid except for fringe options.

• Listener Panic Meter Questions – Key Segments:

  • Rashee Rice: “Panic Meter... more like a five... we're still pushing forward here.” – Tara (33:12)
  • Drake London: “If they play him, then I would have to assume that he is 100% healthy.” (34:34)
  • Brian Thomas Jr. (BTJ): “A flex option, low-end flex option that we can trust... trust-ish.” (35:28)
  • Tyler Warren (TE): “I'm good with the matchup. I would still start him against San Francisco. I will be starting him." (37:45)
  • Joe Burrow: “This one was rough, very rough. But Miami is an okay match up... it just depends who else you have.” (38:19)
  • Trevor Lawrence: “If a quarterback is cooking, he’s cooking. I lean into it. I would still start him.” (42:57)
  • Derrick Henry: “Panic would be more like at a four. It's on the lower end there because it's not a problem with him. He looked fine.” (40:56)

• Waiver Wire Highlights:

  • Jawhar Jordan, Michael Carter (lower confidence), Colby Parkinson (especially if Rams WRs are out), JCM, and Ricky Pearsall (if still available).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On dealing with big late injury surprises:

  • Bogman: "I had Rome and I got a donut from him because I learned too late." (05:22)

• Tara’s dynasty stress:

  • “I think I just watched a catch… I'm here. No, but really I'm like here.” (00:58)

• Regarding unexplainable duds:

  • Tara: “That one is the most perplexing one that was very strange in terms of him being a real dud…” (16:21 on Judkins)

• On sticking with your studs:

  • Bogman: “You can't look yourself in the face if you bench Jonathan Taylor for anybody, really… I just can't live with myself if that's the case.” (26:31)

• On old QBs returning:

  • Tara: “Yeah, he's old. And I'm like, oop, I'm older. Whoops.” (43:57)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:35] – Quick host banter, Week 15 overview, injury parade begins
• [01:10] – Player injuries discussed with quick-hit analysis
• [02:26] – Tara on Patrick Mahomes’s injury and KC outlook
• [04:10] – Devin Neal injury: why it hurts more than you think
• [05:56] – Jawhar Jordan vs Michael Carter waiver wire discussion
• [07:29] – Luther Burden, Rome, and DJ Moore upside with depleted WR group
• [08:30] – Davante Adams, Puka Nacua fallout; Parkinson as a TE streamer
• [11:13] – Playoff stars and heartbreakers; big performances recap
• [13:04] – Stacks that doom you: Facing Amon-Ra + Jameson
• [16:21] – Breece Hall, Judkins, RB trust down the stretch
• [18:37] – Joe Burrow’s flop and future outlook
• [21:47] – Waiver wire backs: JCM, committee situations
• [24:10] – How down bad do you need to be to start Adonai Mitchell
• [25:33] – Life with backup QBs: Minshew, Rivers, and the value of their receivers
• [27:53] – Chargers & Panthers backfield breakdowns
• [30:07] – Ricky Pearsall’s return; roster % and trust level
• [33:12] – Panic Meter: Rashee Rice with Minshew (vs TENN @ DEN)
• [34:34] – Panic Meter: Drake London, injury/usage
• [35:28] – Brian Thomas Jr. trust rest of season
• [37:45] – Tyler Warren rest of season trust
• [38:19] – Joe Burrow rest of season; is Miami the cure?
• [42:57] – Trevor Lawrence, can you still trust him ROS?
• [40:56] – Derrick Henry’s panic level
• [43:57] – QB ages and self-deprecating humor

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Key Takeaways for Fantasy Playoff Push

• Prioritize volume and opportunity over names—especially in backfields with injuries.
• Monitor injury reactivations closely—late-week reports on players like Luther Burden, Devin Neal, and Chris Rodriguez will drive waiver and start/sit decisions.
• Don’t overthink your QB decisions, but have streaming backups for matchups and late-breaking news (e.g., Joe Burrow).
• Trust high-floor receivers like Rashee Rice over deep-threat boom-or-busts when the QB situation is questionable.
• Be aggressive on waivers where RBs/WRs have injury-clear paths, even if committees are likely.
• Set your panic meter for stars lower unless there’s a multi-week injury or truly catastrophic production drop—this is not the week for heroic pivots to bench studs.

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Stay tuned all week for updated rankings, injury news, and last-minute advice from the FantasyPros team!

Transcript

[Tara Roberts]

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[Scott Bogman]

What is going on, everybody? Welcome to the wrap up on Sunday evening with fantasy pros. I'm your host, Scott Bogman. I'm joined by Tara Roberts. Tara, what is going on? I know you're trying to line everything up because you got dynasty seasons on the line. The packers are in like the last three minutes of this game as well. Are you, are you with us? Are you here?

[Tara Roberts]

Somewhat. I think I just watched a catch. I don't know if it's for. Okay, it's like four. Like, I'm, I'm here. I'm here. No, I'm. But I. But really I'm like here.

[Scott Bogman]

Man, it has been a crazy day. I've got. I got James cooked in a couple leagues. I'm sure that happened to you as well, Tara. I had him in one spot, so that was nice. But lots of massive performances today. Lots of injuries today. It is a wild one. So you guys know this is how it's going to go. We're going to go over injuries first. No Deepak today. He could not make it today, so we don't have him. So it's just going to be Tara and I kind of guessing. We will talk about the top five storylines of the day. We'll go over who you are panicking about and then answer your questions at the end as well. So let's just go ahead and dive in and and talk about some of these injuries. Tara. It was not a fun Sunday at all. Obviously we had Patrick Mahomes, the biggest name to go down, but we also had Rome not show up today. I learned that about two minutes before kickoff that I saw that Woody Marks got hurt, Christian Watson got hurt. Devonte Adams got hurt. We saw Puka go down at the end. Devin Neal with the hamstring. I mean, there's 1100 guys it feels like got hurt today. So let's just start with Patrick Mahomes. Gardner Minshu is the next man up if this is an ACL injury, right?

[Tara Roberts]

Yeah, yeah. And it Looks like it is. And unfortunately that is, that is bad news. Now granted, you know, when backup quarterbacks come in, sometimes it's not always a good indication. Like we had Marcus Mariota come in the week before in relief of Jaden Daniels when he got, you know, you know, re injured there. Looked objectively awful. Right. Came in and had a fine fantasy game this week. So maybe there's upside ahead. Upside ish. To keep the road the boat somewhat steady there for our fantasy guys in terms of who we're using, which at this point is really just. It's just Rasheed Rice and Travis Kelsey occasionally a Kareem Hunt there. But yeah, unfortunately I think we're going to be without him remainder of the year there and it just kind of puts us in a position where we're looking ahead to next year with our, with our Chiefs players.

[Scott Bogman]

Oh man. And you know, this late in the season, if it is a bad ACL injury and multiple ligaments that could affect going into next year as well. So just bad news for the Chiefs all the way around here. Now a couple of these other ones. Roma Dunes A. I would think he would be back to play since he was so close to playing this week. Woody going down though. We saw Jawar Jordan take over there. Christian Watson, obviously Jaden Reed is back. Devonte Adams and Puka go down. I mean, I think we'll see a lot of running in Parkinson and Whittington. I guess Tutu Atwell with the Rams as well. Devin Neal kind of would break into a big mess of running backs between Audric Estimate and Taysom Hill and the Evan hall the rest of the crew there. So just a bunch of ugly ones. Which one concerns you the most out of all of these here?

[Tara Roberts]

I think the one that concerns me the most is Devin Neal, oddly enough. That's crazy. But we'd come, we've become very comfortable with him, especially ppr. We were looking at him, it's like, okay, you know, we're seeing the promise. This is, you know, what we thought in the off season in terms when we were looking at him and thinking, okay, maybe this is somebody who could, you know, be potential relief there for Alvin Camara, have a little role. He's done well and just as you're getting really him now, all of a sudden we have to potentially turn to Audrey Estimate. I don't comfortable with this backfield now. There was nothing that indicated that there's any direction that you want to go with this backfield if Devin Neal is not there. So maybe we have Alvin Kamara return. I don't think I was assuming that he would be shut down for the year there as well. So unfortunately, I think the Saints just becomes pass catchers at this point and we maybe have to abandon the backfield. The others concern me less because there are clear direct pivots there. Like Jawar Jordan looked good.

[Scott Bogman]

He did look good. He really did.

[Tara Roberts]

Yeah, in the volume, they looked like they trusted him. That's interesting. I'm gonna put him in my little Weaver wire video. And because there's some potential upside if Marks is out and Nick Chubb as well. So that one is also pretty interesting.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, just some, some tough injuries in championship week. I mean, you know, some of them helped me. A lot of them hurt me. My opponent had Woody Marks in one league, so that helped me. But obviously I had Rome and I got a donut from him because I learned too late. Christian Watson hurt as well. I was kind of depending on him. So lot injuries here. Bam Knight. I guess. So between George Jordan and Michael Carter, if you have to pick up one, Tara, which one do you think you'd set your priority on right now?

[Tara Roberts]

I think I would lean. As crazy it sounds, I do think I would lean towards Gerard Jordan just because it does seem like he would have the bulk of the carries there. And the problem is with Michael Carter, we don't know because Arizona does not give details at all in terms of anything. We don't know if Amari D. Mercado was truly ready to go or if they just put him in there just to, you know, okay, let's, let's get you going. Let's get you some snaps. Let's, you know, get you loose here and then we can, you know, fully release you next week. Because he had been utilized a lot more than that even in splitting work with Bam Knight. So the lack of usage there, I don't know if that was an indication of, okay, it's just going to be 100, Michael Carter, we're good to go. Or more. So that the injury was just still kind of lingering there and he really needed another week because it was more of a game time decision. He was not cleared on Friday. There was no practice in full there. So I hesitate to really solidify that. Hey, this is Michael Carter's backfield moving forward and we're not going to have any funny business from Arizona.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, I mean, Arizona has been quite a mess here. Let me ask you this now. Luther Burden banged up. If Rome doesn't come back, is it just DJ Moore to the moon. I mean, they're playing your packers, who have been a pretty good defense. Obviously Micah Parsons going out if he's going to miss an extended period of time takes a lot out there, but is it. He did score two touchdowns today. Look like Spider man going up a wall on that second one. That was crazy. So he looked good today, but is he trustable even though he really hasn't been for most of the scenes, specifically in the back half here.

[Tara Roberts]

You know, production doesn't repeat in every single matchup there, but it is concerning that he was shut down by the Packers. Now perhaps things would open up and the fact that they would have to if both players are out force targets there or perhaps we get that other, you know, Coulson Loveland, boom game there. So there's other routes that they can go. They have two fine pass catching running backs as well and they can lean aggressively on the ground game, which is probably the better route to go there against the packers anyway. So yeah, it could be DJ more to the moon. You would have to play him. Just if everybody is out there, it'll be interesting to see how serious this injury is to Burden and what the exact re aggravation was with a Dunes A. This is another one we're gonna have to play by ear there and see because. Because when Luther Burden went out, it was a blowout, so we don't really know if it was. You left the game because there was absolutely no need there and you could have returned. This was our division on the line. Or if this was just like, hey, this is serious, you might be at risk next week.

[Scott Bogman]

All right, Any more other injuries you want to talk about or should we go to some storylines now just real.

[Tara Roberts]

Quick because there's one that you hit on very importantly there. Devonte Adams, hamstring injury, Puka Nukua going down there. Matt Stafford does tend to tilt towards the tight ends and Colby Parkinson has been hot. So that one I think is really legit in terms of a waiver wire out there.

[Scott Bogman]

Do you think he scored that? That did not look like a touchdown to me on that replay. I thought he was about 6, 7 inches short, so. But they gave it to him. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter now. They gave it to him. So. All right. We will be right back after this to talk about some of the storylines from week 15.

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[Tara Roberts]

I got helped and hurt by Travion Henderson at the same time. The painful one was Amon Ra Saint Brown. Would you believe that I faced Amon Ra and Jameson Stacks in multiple leagues? Yeah, that's. That's not fun. I mean, I'm still in there. Like, it can still happen. Like, it's. They're very close, but I'm not. I'm not a happy camper on that combination there. But it was good to see Travion Henderson shine through. You would think, like, I don't know how many times we can watch Trayvon look like just an absolute superstar and then look at the next game and continue to have Ramon Drake Stevenson, who. He's not bad, but he's not. He's not Trayvon. He's not.

[Scott Bogman]

Ain't Trayvon. That's right.

[Tara Roberts]

So. Yes. But just please, Patriots release. Release our Travion and let him. Let him Cook, please. Who.

[Scott Bogman]

Who's the least believable out of this group? I guess maybe we should take out like, Goddard, Knox, because they're not going to score two scores every single game. But like, is DJ Moore specifically if these injuries to the wide receiver core Chicago is that believable? Is Tyrone Tracy Scoring twice. Believable. I think maybe for him it was because he just had way more than we saw from. From Devin Singletary this week.

[Tara Roberts]

It's. It's Tyrone Tracy. Because we have seen zero consistency with the Giants going back to back in terms of saying, okay, Tracy was fantastic. Let's run it back with that same usage. Sometimes they'd like to get a little bit cute and switch things up a little bit. We saw Tracy have a fantastic game and then he came back and had basically nothing. It was the Devin singles Terry show. So that one is. It's great to see. It was a great matchup. That one just makes me a little bit uncomfortable. You know, he'll be right in there in RB2 rankings, but it's tough to raise him up to a certain level even in a really good matchup because of the lack of consistency from the Giants and who they dictate who the carries will go to.

[Scott Bogman]

Look at Seth hanging out with us. He's got the day off and he's still hanging with us. Thank you, Seth. What's going on, buddy? We got our big game tomorrow. We're both Steelers fans, so that is tomorrow for us. Let's talk about the duds. Tara quinn, Sean Judkins, 12 for 21. He had negative yards receiving. Breeze hall, we kind of suspected this even though Brady Cook was better than we expected, I feel like. But not a lot from Breeze. Another bad week from Genty who's just. I mean, the Raiders are. You cannot count on them anymore. Manon Guy, 11 carries for 33, only two targets and no catches. Kareem Hunt seeded work to Isaiah Pacheco this week and maybe without Patrick Mahomes, that is. Which by the way, they did confirm ACL tear for Patrick Mahomes I just saw. But Kareem Hunt, 6 for 12, one catch for 8 yards. Didn't get in the end zone. Stefan Diggs only three for 26. Lad McConkey down to two for 20. Brock Bowers did have six catches, but only for 28 yards because Kenny Pickett sucks. Mark Andrews couldn't get it done against Cincinnati, who's been miserable against tight ends all year, and Hunter Henry with only one catch. I guess for the New England guys, maybe it was just a Trayvon day, right? And May ran into so. But the rest of these guys, it's ugly. I mean, what's our trust level on Judkins and Breeze hall to start?

[Tara Roberts]

0 trust level on Breeze Hall. That's a super easy one. Judkins is the one that was perplexing because I know they were down, which does limit you in terms of, you know, your upside on the ground. Right. And you know, volume for carries. But at the same time we had seen very successful usage in terms of checkdowns from Shadur Sanders to both Judkins and Dylan Sampson. So I was of the thought that, okay, Dylan Sampson's going out slide that work right on over there. We will have no competition for Judkins. So it should be a solid volume day on both ends in terms of on the ground and receiving. And to get neither of them was a little bit concerning there. So that one is the most perplexing one that was very strange in terms of him being a real dud and what was also a good matchup against the run. So even if we were playing from behind there, you should have been able to take advantage of the situation. So that was an odd one.

[Scott Bogman]

They do have Buffalo next week whose run defense has not been good and then Pittsburgh, who's run defense. I mean, they let James Cook run the same play 29 times and burst, but they are hit or miss. Genti's just been bad. I don't even think we need to talk about him. What about these receivers, Diggs and McConkey? What's your concern level there for these guys?

[Tara Roberts]

My concern level with McConkey is that unfortunately I think this is it. They have, you know, difficult matchups and the fact that Justin Herbert can't get the ball out unfortunately because of. And then we did see him do like, I don't know, it was a little bit better than I expected expected there. But at the same time he's struggling to get the ball to receivers because of the offensive line issues. But at the end of the day, he's still a wide receiver one there. But Stefon Diggs, this one is one that we really need to key in on because he has struggled to be consistently successful when Kayshawn Booty is healthy and the snaps lean towards Khaan Booty and Matt Collins and there's no consistency there for Stefan Diggs, it looks very similar to what we saw in the beginning of the season when his production was underwhelming and we were thinking, okay, they're just easing him back in because he's coming off a significant injury there. But I don't think this offense particularly benefits him. So Stefon Diggs is the one that I am concerned about because if there was a game for him to have stepped up a little bit, there should have theoretically been this One.

[Scott Bogman]

You know what? I didn't even put him on here. But Joe Burrow also, miserable day. Like, I. I just. I don't think I put him on here because I was doing this kind of, you know, during games and stuff, and I just kept expecting him to all right in the second half. He's gonna find all right in the fourth quarter. He's gonna be fine. But they didn't score a point. He looks depressed. No. T. Higgins. Chase had a huge game, but Brown didn't. P. Ryan had a bunch of rush attempts there as well. So what's your overall expectations for the Bengals moving forward? Cincinnati has at Miami and against the Cardinals, so two decent matchups here. But Joe Burrow making us sad this week.

[Tara Roberts]

That was one of the strangest games overall, right? Because on the Baltimore end, they won handedly. But who had a good fantasy day there was the best that we've gotten. It really wasn't all that. So it was such a strange 100 yards, and that was it. That was all the points that it got was literally those hundred yards. So that was a peculiar game overall where just nobody was producing from a fantasy perspective with, oddly enough, the exception being Jamar Chase there, who absolutely dominated. I worry about Cincinnati 1, because, you know, you would think that the defense being bad, it means it forces volume and whatnot. But if they're struggling, they're. They're obviously, they're no longer in playoff contention. They're in a bad place and frustrated there. The only person that appears to be in a good place is Jamar Chase, and he, you know, said some comments after the game that he's going to, you know, maybe he needs to be there for Joe and lift him up there. So obviously there's some struggles going on there in the locker room, so I'm hoping for the best there. But we'll move Joe back a little bit in rankings. Miami has been middle of the road. They can be a good matchup there. And at the end of the day, there's still volume. So he's still in play. Chase Brown's still in play. Jamar is always in play there. But outside of that, you get. You get a little bit concerned.

[Scott Bogman]

Brock Bowers, I mean, obviously been a down year. He had the injury early, and then he had Geno Smith to deal with, and now he has Kenny Pickett to deal with. He's been a hard start recently at Houston this week in week 16, not great. The Giants to end it out is not bad. But what is your trust level on Brock Bowers? Moving forward.

[Tara Roberts]

I was hoping that the change to Kenny Pickett would benefit Bowers because obviously Kenny Pickett is not going to chuck it downfield a lot. You see a lot of shorter passes there that would have theoretically maybe benefited Genti from a pass perspective and Bowers as well, but we didn't really see it produced there. Yeah, we've got concerns. Bowers. At least we still got the targets there, but the lack of productivity is an issue. He's still ultimately a guy that we're rolling out as a top five tight end on a weekly basis there. Unless some guys have just unbelievably fantastic matchups. But it's a little irritating, especially because we've got Houston coming up. That will not be a fun one for him. So basically you're waiting until championship week for the good old days.

[Scott Bogman]

God. All right, let's talk about a couple other concerns here. Are we back in on JCM? Jakori, Crosky, Mayer? Good old Bill here. 18 for 96 and the score. He looked really good. Obviously there was no Chris Rodriguez in this game. McNichols was in there. He also had nine carries but only one catch and he lost a fumble. Not very dependent. It seems like maybe we are focusing back in on Bill, but do you think this is like a Ramondre Stevenson situation where as soon as C Rod comes in it's back to a gross message? They got Philly and Dallas to end it out both games at home, which should be nice for them. And Phillies run D, you know, improved a little today, but it hasn't been good over the last month. Dallas has been better after their trades and stuff. What is your trustability level here for JCM moving forward?

[Tara Roberts]

I'm adding him just because of the fact that, you know, while the matchups aren't fantastic, if Chris Rodriguez is out, he's talented enough that he should produce. No, we don't have any pass catching upsides, so he is definitely touchdown dependent. But it was the same thing with Rodriguez. It's the same exact thing. The only difference is is that if you trusted Chris Rodriguez as somebody that you wanted to roster, you can trust Jakory Crosby merit a little bit more if Rodriguez is out just because that would at least focus in the carries on him getting a decent amount of volume there to justify him as an RB2 start. So I think it's worth it to see, you know, it was more of a game time decision. Perhaps this is something that lingers for Rodriguez if he doesn't come back. If he comes Back. It does make it a. Probably not an ideal situation to trust him.

[Scott Bogman]

All right, let's talk about some quarterbacks moving forward here. Tara, there was. I just want to know how much are we trusting these new slash bad offenses in these situations with the quarterbacks? Obviously we have. Brady Cook looked okay today. Not good, right? Probably not NFL level, but for a backup, he was okay. Got Adnai Mitchell a touchdown. Anyway, they're at New Orleans and then they have New England to end it. You already talked about Breeze hall and how you don't really want to start him. Does that trickle over to. Obviously there was no Mason Taylor this week, but Adnai Mitchell and any receiver with the jets as well. Like what kind of level. How far down bad do you need to be to start Ad? N? I guess is my question.

[Tara Roberts]

You gotta be. You gotta be down bad because it's a pure upside swing. It's a high ceiling and it's a super low floor. He's a boom bus player regardless of who's at quarterback there. I think that's just the nature of him as a player. And New Orleans is not. They're no slouch. Okay.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah. Not a defense.

[Tara Roberts]

Tela McMillan didn't have the most fantastic day. They're an adequate defense. They're right in the middle there. So I fear you can turn to A.D. mitchell if you need that high upside swing. You're the underdog. You need to take a chance that it's going to be one of those 20 point performances from him. But at the end of the day, it's not trustworthy.

[Scott Bogman]

What about Gardner Minshew? I'll just rattle off these last two. Really? Because you said we're not trusting Pickett at all. Right. So. But Gardner Minshew at Tennessee, not bad. But then at home against Denver is not good in championship week. And then old man Rivers looked okay. These got San Francisco and then Jacksonville. Are you trusting not. Not really the quarterbacks? Because of course we don't want to start Minshew or Rivers if we don't have to. But the guys around them, the Rasheed Rice, the Travis Kelsey's, and then for Rivers it's Pittman and Downs and Warren and Taylor and all those guys like the offensive vi, the offensive viability with these quarterbacks at the helm between Minshew and Rivers, are you. Are you buying into the pieces around them still? How much are you lowering them?

[Tara Roberts]

If so, for Minshew, I am buying into Rasheed Rice. Given the matchup. Tennessee, right. You got to buy into it and Buying into Rice and Travis Kelsey. I don't trust the run game, but that's. That's absent of Garner Minchu. That doesn't really matter with Rivers. Yeah. Let's go. It looks fun. Okay. I don't know about the. The only person that I do continue to be worried about is Alec Pierce, so I'm not surprised we got that Josh Downs touchdown. I mean, theoretically it makes sense that it should be Warren Pittman and downs that are the ones that would be the more trustworthy options over Alec Pierce and the deep ball there. So. So yeah, I'm kind of in. San Francisco is not a bad matchup. He can handle them. Then you got Jackson, Jacksonville pass rushes. You know, it's strong, but we'll see. And then obviously you got to trust Jonathan Taylor. You got to keep plugging forward there. And finally at least we get a good matchup against San Francisco. So yay on that one.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, we'll see. Hopefully. Fingers crossed. Yeah, Jacksonville's been real good against the run, so that's kind of a dicey matchup championship week. But what are you going to do, Ben? Jonathan Taylor, that's my thing is like you can't look yourself in the face if you bench Jonathan Taylor for anybody, really, you know, Kenneth Walker, whatever. Let's just say somebody, right? And he goes off and that guy doesn't like. I just can't live with myself if that's the case. So I'm absolutely with you. I want to, I want to ask you finally before we talk about panic meter and answer some questions here, but some of these situations, Vidal was still over Hampton in snaps we had. We were back to Rico over Hubbard and we had a nice bounce back week from Ricky Piersol. So start with the Chargers running back situation here. Tara, you know, I'm glad I'm asking you this instead of having to answer it, but Vidal 42, 66 snaps, he had 12 carries and a catch. Hampton had 24 snaps only with seven routes run, but he had three more carries. 15 of his 24 snaps he ran on and had a catch as well. So more snaps to Vidal, but more touches to Hampton slightly. How do you think this is just going to be a GROSS Kind of 50, 50 moving forward the Chargers have at Dallas and then at home against Houston.

[Tara Roberts]

I do, I. And I think they're still going to lean on the run game. So you do at least have that reprieve that they're going to push forward on that. But it makes sense that it's a committee that's what we saw when Najee Harris was healthy. It was Najee Harris and Martin Hampton, both of them being used, neither one of them having a whole ton of upside. So ultimately we might just be seeing exactly what the Chargers wanted to do in the first place there.

[Scott Bogman]

And this was. I didn't. I put this on the sheet before I got the stats. So I'm looking. Sorry, like an old man at my phone. 16 for 49 for Dowdle in a score. One for five on the catches for him. We're down to eight for 29 for Chuba. One catch for nine yards. And you know, the previous week, they had the bye week last week, but the previous game it had. They had gone back to Chuba. And I felt like that made sense because they gave Chuba the money. He's a team captain. They want him to be the guy, it seems. But right back to Rico this week. So your trustability on the Carolina running back situation here moving forward, they have Tampa Bay and then Seattle. Two tough run defenses.

[Tara Roberts]

Yeah, it's weird because Chuba had become the more productive back. I do. I still think it's committee. I still think it's hot hand. I guess they felt that Rico was hotter in the moment. So it's a committee. You got to give the edge slightly towards Rico, but I don't think you can put either one of these guys confidently in the top 15, maybe even not even the top 20 to quite be quite frank. You just kind of look at it as a low end RB2 option. You lean towards Rico. If you have to go towards Chuba, that's okay. But just realize that obviously we don't have the best matchups in the world coming up.

[Scott Bogman]

We prefer flex for these guys if we have to start them. Ricky Pierce saw at the Colts against Chicago. Nice game here for the niners. He had six targets, five catches, 84 yards. Are we finally back in? Now that most people are eliminated, who drafted Ricky Piersol, but he's on the wire probably in a decent amount of spots because so many people got fed up. So what's your trust level on Pearsall moving forwards? It just. Hey, we got this. Good game. Wheels up now. We're good or is it all right, we got the good game, but let's pump the brakes on the hype train here.

[Tara Roberts]

Yeah, Ricky Parasol going off on my dynasty bench. Thank you, buddy. I checked. Just FYI, I checked. He is 69% rostered in Yahoo Lake. So surprisingly, amount of people held on. I'm sort of shocked on that.

[Scott Bogman]

One probably people that got bounced.

[Tara Roberts]

I thought that more people would have been would have moved on here, but this is maybe it just took more while to feel more comfortable here. But obviously this was a really good matchup. But we have good matchups moving forward here. So yeah, Piersol is apparently back on the table here. Everyone did well. This was a really good, well rounded fantasy game from all of the pass catchers there.

[Scott Bogman]

All right, let's get to the Panic Meter. Everybody in the chat here. If you want to ask us your Panic Meter questions, go ahead and throw them in the chat right now. But before we get to that, let me remind you guys that today's show is is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. If you're listening to this podcast, you're probably deep in the stats, injury reports and matchups. Put your fantasy football knowledge to the test on Hard Rock Bet. New customers can sign up and get $5 bet $5 on any game. If it wins, you'll find $150 in bonus bets on top of your winnings stuffed in your stocking. Now that's holiday magic. Not sure what to place your first bet on? Hard Rock Bet just launched a brand new for you page, making it easy to find all your favorite teams, players and leagues all in one place. The Hard Rock Bet Sportsbook app is the only legal sportsbook for whenever you're in Florida, and it's also live in Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois, Colorado and Michigan. Coming soon to more states soon as well. Plus, Hard Rock Bet offers new promos every single day. So whenever you're listening, just open up the app, check out what you've got any day of the week, download the Hard Rock Bet apple and make your first deposit today.

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[Scott Bogman]

All right, Tara, Panic Meter. I feel like we've done a little bit of the panic meter in the storyline here, but let's see what the comments have to say. Let's start. I was doing fine until I had a Monroe playing against me. That's a funny comment right there because I feel like I was. I was doing bad until I had a Monroe, but then I still. I think I'm going to end up losing in that one. But let's just go with. Let's start with Rishi Rice. Right. Rashi Rice with Gardner Minshew. We mentioned the matchup here for Kansas City. It's at Tennessee. Great. Versus Denver in the championship. Yikes. So what are your thoughts on Rasheed Rice moving forward here? Who keeps getting stuck by these safeties, too?

[Tara Roberts]

Yeah, when it comes to Denver, they are so. Okay, we're full. Good. We're full. Go. We're starting him against Tennessee. No questions about that. Denver is the only question mark we have in terms of what to expect. I Denver, I think, is a team that you can at least throw on as long as you're not one of the deep ball dependent guys here. So I think from that.

[Scott Bogman]

Don't throw it to Christian Watson.

[Tara Roberts]

Yeah, yeah. I think from that perspective, we can still get a little bit of volume underneath for Rashi. So Panic Meter is at like a. Like a six, More like a five. We're like, okay, but it is Rashid. We're still. We're still pushing forward here.

[Scott Bogman]

Start. Start him without too much stomach pain, I guess, is what you're saying here. Let's see, this one is from vulcanerd. Panic Meter for Drake London. I don't need him, but I could use him if I advance to play the number two seed next week. Thank you so much. Drake London obviously missed a couple of weeks in a row, didn't play. The game was on Thursday. So there's a little bit of a benefit here. Atlanta is at Arizona and then home against the Rams the next two weeks. Is it just. Look, if Drake London is up, we're playing him. Is that how you go about it or is it more of a. It's. We're in the playoffs. If you have another option, I might start the other guy over Drake. Which way are you leaning here, Tara?

[Tara Roberts]

Because they're not competing for literally anything. If they play him, then I would have to assume that he is 100% healthy and good to go. I just don't feel confident that they're going to end up playing him. So, yeah, if you've got him and you're, you know, obviously holding on, you're going to give it a week here, see if he does play. But I don't have a lot of confidence that we're getting him back.

[Scott Bogman]

All right, btj, from our friend Indy stylist here. Can I trust him now? This is a good question. BTJ scored but Jacoby Myers looks like the number one there. Obviously three touchdowns to Travis ETN as well. Brent Strange wasn't involved a lot this week. Parker Washington just came back. So your trustability on Brian Thomas Jr. Is this also like, hey, week 15, he finally found the magic that he had last year or is this a, hey, he got in the end zone. I don't care. It's Jacoby Myers time in Jacksonville.

[Tara Roberts]

Yeah, sadly, if we were rounding out this against like, hey, if we're rounding this out against Arizona and the Giants, I would say yes, we are at a trust level with him. On a scale with 10, it's the highest we are trusting at an 8 there. But unfortunately we've got Denver in Indy. Indy, he had 11 fantasy points, was okay, like just. But, you know, nothing special. Denver, obviously we don't have to explain it there. We're trusting him as a flex option. I do believe that I'm with you that I think Jacoby is the, is taken over as the alpha there. But BTJ looks more like himself. This is a much better version, a more confident version because a lot of that was on him in terms of his difficulties that he was having earlier in the season there. So I think we're seeing a better version of him to close out the season. A flex option, low inflex option version that we can trust. Trust ish.

[Scott Bogman]

Rest of season trust ish. Yes, very convincing. All right, let's talk about some of these questions because I feel like we're going to get more questions than panic meters here. So join us in that. But before we get to your questions, I remind you guys about the Fantasy Pro's Discord community. You can chat with other fans, get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Here is the current schedule. Worm and Fitz at 5 Eastern on the first Tuesday of every month. Myself and Fitz at 5 Eastern on the third Tuesday of every month that's coming up this week. Check it out. And Welshy and erickson, Thursdays at 2 Eastern. You can come and get your questions answered and be on the [e-mail] chat. All right, everybody hit us with your hard hitting questions for the final two weeks of the fantasy season. Unless you're a psycho and you go all the way to week 18, which we do not recommend. But Tara, let's dive in on some of these questions here. The first one just got on. Sorry if you guys answered this we did not yet. Morris. Let's see. Is it time to pivot off of Tyler Warren heading into the semi semis and finally championship week. Now the Colts. Obviously Philip Rivers was okay today. The Colts like we said before, San Francisco this week, Jacksonville the following. What are your thoughts on Tyler Warren and his trustability moving forward?

[Tara Roberts]

I'm good with the matchup. I would still start him against San Francisco. I will be starting him. So this is a endorsement here. I will be starting him next week against San Francisco. I'm surprised that he didn't have a better game here. This should have benefited him and it was a good matchup. Seattle has struggled against tight ends, so this one was a little surprising for me. But I would still roll him out against San Francisco.

[Scott Bogman]

All right, let's go to Cal Jansen. Do I have to start Burrow for the rest of the season? Am I crazy? Cincinnati at Miami and then against Arizona to end it out here?

[Tara Roberts]

It depends on who you have and if we get T. Higgins back. That would be nice to get T. Higgins back though I'm not going to give this was one blip. Joe Burrow is quite the. He is quite the athlete there and I do think that he can bounce back from this one. This one was rough, very rough. But Miami is an okay match up. There should not be any weather. It's at Miami so there should not be weather concerns or anything. So he can get to a bright, sunny, happy place there and hopefully be able to bounce back with T. Higgins as well. It just depends on who else you have because we have a lot of solid streaming options. Like, you know, perhaps you have a Jacoby Brissette. Jacoby has proven like you can go back to Jacoby. Matchup. Matchup does not depend there. So yeah, there's. There's options. It depends on who you would start over him.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Like I would start somebody in a pretty decent matchup here. But if the. If it's not a good matchup, I am starting Joe Burrow. Right. So that is. It's a tough one because this week was so terrible. But I totally understand what you're saying. Joe Burrow just needs a little sunshine. He just needs to go to Miami, feel a little bit better.

[Tara Roberts]

He doesn't need to.

[Scott Bogman]

Yes. It's about vacation time for us. The season is winding down here. How about this one is from the me the Meg father. Thoughts on Tet rest of the season Lost Adams assume he's not playing next week. I think that's Pretty good assumption for an old man with a hamstring injury right before the playoffs here. But what are your thoughts on Tetaroa moving forward? Carolina has Tampa Bay and then Seattle to end it.

[Tara Roberts]

I'm good. Obviously Seattle is a concerning matchup overall. Tampa Bay should be a good matchup for him. We have, we had no, we have not had a Tampa Bay matchup with them. But New Orleans, this look, I wasn't expecting much out of him against New Orleans. Again, this was not a matchup where he did fantastic the time before. They're an adequate defense in terms of defending receivers, so erase this one from your mind and start him against Tampa.

[Scott Bogman]

18 J. Mock asked Derek Henry panic meter he did have 100 yards today, just didn't get in the end zone. Rashin Ali had that big burst run, but they were using Keaton Mitchell a little bit more in this game as well. I feel like that might have been game script, but I didn't see every second of that game. So I don't know how much Mitchell was used early. But what are your overall thoughts on Derrick Henry here? Are you panicking about him? Baltimore ends with New England and Green Bay, so a couple tough defenses here.

[Tara Roberts]

Panic would be more like at a four. It's on the lower end there because it's not a problem with him. He looked fine. This was just that weird game where it didn't make logical sense. If someone gets 100 yards, you would expect a certain level of production and from a fantasy perspective and it was literally just those a hundred yards. It was strange. Very strange.

[Scott Bogman]

Iron Mike has already moved on, so he's asking questions for next week. Week 16. Are you starting Pierce Burden or Mitchell? I think it's pretty easy. Burden there, huh? Yeah, I guess he got banged up though.

[Tara Roberts]

Watch that ankle injury there. If not, then, oh, if not then you might have to turn to. Might have to turn to Pierce.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. Yeah, I know. Would it be Pierce over Adnai?

[Tara Roberts]

I think so. Just because I trust him. It's about at that point it's less about the quarterback and more about which player do I trust on a week to week basis to put up. And it's. And it's Pierce that I trust.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah. And the jets are on the road at New Orleans, who just did a good job against McMillan as you mentioned before. So good call out there. Vulcan Nerd said. I was annoyed that the Ravens only targeted their tight ends three times. Yeah, I don't get that at all. Like this is a team the strangest game so weird. We. But I feel like every analyst on this channel has hit you over the head with the Cincinnati is so bad against the tight ends because they're giving up. I think I believe it was 23.6 half PPR points per game somewhere in the 20s. 21.6, 23.6 and the next highest was like 15.9 giving up points to tight ends per game. So it was by them, by a lot. So I got Lawrence. What's my move for the rest of the season? Going into two week finals with the number one seed next week. Luckily they only have purdy. So are we rolling? Are we confident with Trevor Lawrence at Denver and then at the Colts to end the season?

[Tara Roberts]

If a quarterback is cooking, he's cooking. I lean into it. Yeah, I would still. I would still start him. I would still start him.

[Scott Bogman]

I think so too. Indy Siles Hendo over Genty next week. I think next week, next year, maybe the next year. It shouldn't be this way because I do think Genti is an amazing back. But man, the Raiders got some rebuilding to do. They got to fix quarterback, they got to fix offensive line. They trade Jacoby Myers and need wide receivers. I feel like they have three pieces on offense to keep and eight to replace. It's Jackson Powers Johnson, it is Ashton Chanty, it is Brock Bowers and then a mess, I guess Colton Miller. But that is gross. So please don't refer to Rivers as an old man, as a person who's older than Adams. Yeah, look, I am older than everyone but one player in the NFL. Thank God Philip Rivers came back. I'm younger than Philip Rivers.

[Tara Roberts]

I too am guilty of often calling. Yeah, he's old. And I'm like, oop, I'm older. Whoops.

[Scott Bogman]

Yeah, yeah, that's the thing, right? Like Welsh and I were looking at it because we're both 42. So we're like, no, I think he said no. I think Aaron Rodgers is older. And I was like, Aaron Rodgers is 83 as well, but he is December. So we're older than everybody in the NFL except for Philip Rivers now that he's back. I think that's all the questions that we have from everybody. Thank you everybody. Tara, give out your Twitter and all your social media and let everybody know what you're going to be doing this week and where they can find all your great work.

[Tara Roberts]

Yeah, you can find it at itstera time. There it is right there on the screen. And I've got, you know, I do live shows for fantasy pros on the Instagram and YouTube channels. You can also check out my YouTube channel as well or waiver wire stuff and all that good stuff. So. And we're still, we're staying strong one more week, people. One more week until the championship. So hang in there, feel positive.

[Scott Bogman]

That's. That's it. That's it. You can follow me at Bogman Sports on all the stuff and yeah, I'll be here. I'll be here tomorrow with Welsh and Joe on out of Bounds. Welsh or Joe and I are doing a lot of stuff at Betting Pro. Seth and I are also over at Betting Pros as well. So just follow us here. You can find all of our work but that is going to be it for us. Take it easy everybody and good luck in your playoff matchups. I mean two more weeks left, so getting down to the end, go win that money. Take it easy everybody.

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