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Hello, everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football podcast. I'm Ryan, warmly joined, as I am every Thursday morning by Pat Fitz Morris and by Jake Seeley from the Athletic. Guys, this is our Thursday show. We talk some starts, we talk some sits, we talk some waiver ads this week that we didn't have last week. And we'll also do our touchdown calls at the end of the show. Quick reminder for everybody that all of our 2025 consensus rankings in tears can be found at fantasypros.com rankings. Fitz, whoa. As we are here, you know, a week into the season, what were some of your early takeaways from week one? How are you feeling about all the teams you drafted? Where's your head at one weekend?
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Yeah, I mean, it was kind of a mixed bag, of course, in week one. Luckily not too many injuries. Although we, you know, are dealing with the news that Brock Purdy is going to miss maybe a month or so. Yeah, I mean, it was, it was an interesting week. Like week one, the unpredictability. Who would have thought that in the early window, the only game to go over the Vegas total would be Steelers, jets, and it would go flying over the total and almost get there by halftime. Maybe that's the kind of unpredictable season we're in for this year.
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Jake, what's your headspace like one week in?
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It's one week. Relax. Basically, to use that old cliche, I was actually just looking at our good friend the Welsh, and I actually sent him a text and said, congratulations, going viral. And I'm looking right now. And now he has almost nearly a million views for that. Christian McCaffrey sucking the life force out of George Kittle, Brock Purdy, Brandon Ayuk, and Juwan Jennings just to stay healthy this year. Kudos to him for that. Definitely was the tweet of the week, but it's sad for them. But again, for everybody out there, don't overreact. It's week one. Actually, you know what? I will pause here for a second. I'm going to take the floor from you, Worm, if that's okay. For everybody that tuned in at the beginning of August and the end of July and never since on these shows we were doing together and said that I'm pulling back, pulling back, pulling back, pulling back, pulling back on Kenneth Walker being the bell cow. You guys know I said that. How many times did I say it to you guys when I was like, you have to be on the field to be a bell cow. Please tune in to the entire story. I moved them all the way down to RB18. Please come for me if you. Drafted early August, I suffered the same pain. I feel the pain of having them as my anchor running back where I went three wide receivers to start. So I understand that. But at the same time there was additional information. So stay tuned. You can come for me, but also come for me within the right time is all I'm saying.
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Capitulate on this, Jake. Like we don't.
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We'll.
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We'll talk more about this during the show, I'm sure. But like I don't think, I don't think you need to capitulate on Kenneth Walker just yet.
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He will be coming up later in the episode the way this episode's gonna work. For those who are just tuning in for the first time this week, we got a couple different segments for you. We're gonna talk about some of the popular waiver ads this weekend. If these are guys that we are going to be considering starting right off the bat or if they're more stashes for the long term, we're gonna plant our flag on some players guys that we just really are convicted in for this week. And then of course we've got some start sit player debates. We' some larger ones at running back and receiver, then some more rapid fire quick start sit decisions at every position including flex later on in the show. And we'll of course wrap things up as I mentioned before with our touchdown calls contest where we predict a touchdown for each.
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We gotta do as well as week one.
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I. Well, Harrison hit. He was the only one I got.
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No Connor.
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Oh, Connor. We had Connor too. So I don't have the last week. I know mine didn't hit, which is what I'm really thinking about.
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I was just talking about me and Fitz on that one.
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Yeah, well, you guys could do as well.
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Let's.
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Let's see how you guys do when you have to pick the tight ends. Okay. That's all I will say.
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You gave yourself a really bad draw the gate on that one.
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Yeah, that was, that was a tough start. But I'm not on tight end this week so we'll get to that at the end of the show. Let's start off with are we starting or sitting some of these popular waiver ads from this week? And the reason we included this segment, we started doing it last year is because it's, it's very interesting. Like a lot of the times everybody gets all excited about, okay, let's go, you know, spend all our fab and our waiver priority and get whoever the hot names are of the week. But then you are forced to the question of am I starting this over the guy I was already starting in this spot? Unless you had an injury that makes it clear, or is this somebody that is now on my bench and kind of just on the team moving forward? So I have four names in here. It'll be about three or four each week. Just kind of the most popular guys. And this is through our Saints league data on fantasy pros is where I'm drawing who these names are that are the most popular ads of the week. I'll start with Quentin Johnson, who was number one on that list. Jake, are you starting him or sitting him here in week two?
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I'm starting him if I need to shoot for ceiling. The encouraging part was that he was out there more than Keenan Allen and that Keenan Allen was primarily the slot in 3 wide option. That being said, Keenan Allen still right neck and neck with him in targets with the fact that he had a higher target share while on the field than Quentin Johnston overall because Justin Herbert still looks for him. The good news, the end zone and red zone targets were going to Quentin Johnston. We know the big playability. I'm definitely buying in that it might hit. This was a first round draft talent. And I've said this before, I don't know where Fitz falls on this one, but I thought it was weird that Quentin Johnston when he was drafted, everyone said you need patience, he needs development, he's a raw prospect. And after year one we got what we expected and people are like, well, he sucks. And now I understand year two, the drops became more of an issue and were magnified by some island games and big play opportunities. But it's still, it's not a shock for somebody to take three years. We used to be playing this five, six, seven years ago. As in year three breakout. Year three breakout was the thing at wide receiver and I present all that to say is like I am starting him but still no more as a wide receiver for just because I don't think he's definitively that far ahead of Keenan Allen despite the fact that he was at the three Wide sets because they are running more three wide than we probably expected from this offense. So I have them in similar ranges. Keenan Allen would be the floor. Quentin Johnson would be the upside. I just don't think you have to slam him in your lineup this early just yet.
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Fitz, what do you think?
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I've got him ranked wide receiver 44. Like, I think Quentin Johnston is.
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Why do you hate him? I have him for 43.
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Yeah, I mean, like so in a league where you have to start three receivers or where you have to start maybe two or three flex guys, like, I think you're probably starting him. But to Jake's point, you know, like Quentin Johnston, he always had that size speed combination and he is just a freight train with the ball in his hands. But like if he's actually learned to catch and he looked pretty good catching the ball against the Chiefs, this is like Happy Gilmore learning how to pot.
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How about Harold Fannin Jr. Fitz, you and I talked about him a lot on the Dynasty show throughout the last several months. Now here in his first NFL, you know, game has seven catches in week one. We know that Joe Flacco does like tight ends for as long as he's there in Cleveland. But here in week two, Fitz, are you starting Fanon?
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Well, I think he's probably a start for a lot of the people who picked him up since I'm guessing a lot of those people were replacing either George Kittle or Evan Ingram or maybe Dallas Goddard, who's questionable for this week. But like if you just picked him up as kind of a luxury guy but behind someone like Tucker Kraft or Tyler Warren, obviously not. And you know, as excited as I am about Fannin, some of his week one success may have been opponent related. The Bengals were really beaten up by tight ends last year and you know, then Fannin and David Najoku combined for 10 catches and 100 yards against the Bengals last week. So for this week, I mean, I think I'd actually rather play Brenton Strange of the Jaguars because the Jaguars are going up against the Bengals.
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Harold Fannin Jr. Is tight end 17. Jake, where do you have him ranked.
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16, just one spot. I completely agree with Fitz and you know, I kind of pushed back in my ranks column at the Athletic and I said, you know, he had 64.6% of the routes. That's cool. That's actually half decent for a tight end. But Isaiah likely is the comparison I drew. We did this with Isaiah likely last year and Isaiah likely only topped that mark six times last year. Two of those were his double digit games. The other games where he didn't also had two double digit games. I think Fannin and likely are a good parallel is there the more athletic arguably the higher ceiling on both of their teams tight end option. It's just when you run two tight ends it's very hard to get value from one let alone two. Now if they keep phasing away from Njoku because he's a free agent and or even in Joku gets hurt cool. I'm just with fits on this one like strange he's in that conversation. I do have fan and over Goddard because he's banged up. I have him over Evan Ingram who by the way split with a third tight end and Lucas Kroll to give you that headache. Good. Thank you for that Broncos. But it's just the fact of the volume of being on the field. So it's tight end if you want to shoot for the upside. But I'm with Fitz. I'm not benching craft for him. I would play Joanne Johnson over him. I think there's just a few that feel a little bit safer. But this scene feelings there because he's.
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A tight end just to extend the fan and likely comparison two guys who burned up a lot of week two fab money in each of the last two years.
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Yeah for sure. K Sean Booty very popular waiver ad kind of coming back from the dead in terms of his fantasy value here with Drake May. Jake, what do you think about K Sean Booty as a potential start in a deeper league? Obviously for this week.
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Yeah, I grabbed him in a few of my leagues but it's a grab and wait in my opinion mostly because so my biggest concern for the Patriots coming out of week one was the fact that Douglas was only out there about 60 some odd percent of the routes despite the fact Stephon Diggs wasn't fully integrated. Stefan Diggs was even out there for 50% and yet Diggs got his targets. Douglas didn't see that boost from last year. It was Booty which is cool. Like I I this is somebody that before he got hurt in college was thought of as a potential day one, at least a day two prospect at wide receiver and he even echoed that himself. So I know the appeal. I just have a little hesitation for May in general. And also is Diggs going to see 2030 more percent of the routes this week and then if so just has that fact. Booty who Hunter Henry just keeps getting involved and of course the passing game in the backfield. So it's kind of a. Does the volume carry over? If you want to play them, I'm not going to hate you for it. I would just be a little bit cautious about thinking you're going to get that every single week until we see what the full offense looks like.
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Fitz in ECR Booty is wide receiver 40. Excuse me, 54. Douglas is up at wide receiver 52. Diggs is at wide receiver 41. Just for reference, um, are you starting or sitting Case on?
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I think I'm sitting him this week. Nice depth piece for sure. But no, no teams on buys and, you know, the injuries haven't really gotten cranked up yet. Although they're like a dozen guys with shoulder injuries at wide receiver for some reason. That's the new in vogue injury of 2025. But I don't think you're starting Booty this week.
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Yeah, that. That one feels kind of easy. This other one might feel easy depending on, you know, where you're looking in the rankings. Marquis Hollywood Brown is at wide receiver 31 in ECR. Jake, he is the fourth most added player this week. I want to throw him in here. Like, obviously there's real Runway here for him to get a ton of targets. Is that enough for you to be starting him this week?
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That's funny. I have him right at 31. The matchup's a little bit concerning, but at the same time, the volume is going to offset it. Like, it's just going to be volume, volume, volume. I mean, we're talking about juju, Smith, Schuster and all these other options. We still don't have royals out there, you know, and if Travis Kelsey in that game where we saw Xavier, where they get hurt, which, by the way, thanks a lot, Travis Kelsey, I don't know that was a hit, by the way, because I don't know if you saw that Taylor Swift was talking up that she likes Xavier Worthy. So maybe Kelsey went out with the hit in week one to take him out. But whatever it might be, I think the volume is going to offset it. The problem is the A dot. We're going to need 10 targets. I'm not going to give him 16 again, but we're going to need 10 to probably get wide receiver two value. But that's okay because he kind of lives in that world. But that's why he's 31 and not 21 or even higher because that adot is just going to stay so short for him.
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Let's go to. Oh, sorry, Fitz. I forgot.
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Fitz chime in there like he was ready to go.
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That's my fault. Fitz, what do you got on Brown?
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Well, Jake, Jake covered it so thoroughly you didn't really need it to throw it to me. I totally agree with Jake. I mean, I guess the only reason why you wouldn't start him would be if Xavier Worthy were somehow able to play because, you know, got Andy Reid calling him day to day, you know, apparently planning to put him in a suit of armor or something and let him go out there. But yeah, I don't think he's playing. So I think you are starting Hollywood.
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All right, now let's now go to our plant your flag segment and Fitz, I'll start with you to make it up to you. Which player are you again? This is just the guy that you really feel strong. So it doesn't have to be like your number one ranked player obviously, but the guy that you are just really interested in and convicted in about starting this week.
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Who's your plant your flag player, Jameson Williams. Do not be discouraged by his four catches for 23 yards last week. I think JMO goes off this week against a Bears defense likely to be without its best cornerback, Jalen Johnson. And you know, our our colleague Andrew Erickson refers to Ford Field as the Coors Field of the NFL. It's a place where we offense often see offensive pyrotechnics. We certainly did not see offensive pyrotechnics from the Lions in Green Bay last week, but this is a get right spot for Detroit against Chicago.
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Jameson Williams. Fitz is actually two spots behind Marquis Brown in ECR for this week. I assume because you had this conviction on him, you would start Jameson.
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Absolutely.
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Okay. Jake, what do you think about Williams real quick?
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I agree. I actually think this is a great bounce back spot. You look at the fact that I think we talked about it last year. I don't remember 17 podcasts somewhere I talked about it and I said that Jared Goff's outdoorness, or whatever you want to call it, I'm making that a word. It was a little bit overinflated on what really happens. He's not that bad outdoors. And we actually saw late in December, by the way, two outdoor games, including what Fitz just brought up in Chicago where he had really good games. But the one place he struggled, no matter what time of the year, September being a couple of those games, something about playing in Green Bay. And part of it is Green Bay defense. But he just struggles in general. And also, let's not look past it. I go back to Eli Manning when they changed Offensive coordinators like seven, eight years into his career, and everybody's like, hey, you need to wait four, maybe six games before he gets really comfortable with the new offense. And he echoed that sentiment. And I don't think Morton overhauled the offense, but there were changes. There were more changes than he let on in Week one. So I'm giving golf a little bit of a pass too, as. As he's getting acclimated to this. So I'm, I'm going to bounce back spot with him. I have him clearly ahead of Marquise Brown.
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Jake, I'll stick with you. Who's your plant, your flag player?
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I'm going Jordan Mason, if you need a running back. So the big thing that I noticed, and we hopefully a lot of people saw this because the island game that it was, but they were behind most of that game and yet Jordan Mason was on the field for most of that game as the lead runner. Sixteen rush attempts to eight for Aaron Jones. And I know we've talked about this before, that this could be a backfield split and Aaron Jones in the passing game makes him valuable. And there was a little bit of hesitation on Jordan Mason, but if they're going to roll out was just essentially the Harris Jalen Warren Steelers backfield, and that's kind of how they're going to treat it. I think you can start Jordan Mason in a game that we actually expect them to potentially be contending, if not with the lead earlier than they were against the Bears. And in that case, if Jordan Mason has another 15 to 20 touches, put them in your Week 2 lineup for those that need running back help.
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Fitz, Jordan Mason is RB31 in ECR. That, by the way, this is half PPR scoring whenever I'm referencing ECR, typically, unless I specifically say otherwise. Jordan Mason, RB31. Aaron Jones is RB28. Fitz. Do you think those should be switched or do you agree that Jones should be a few spots higher?
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I've got Mason, RB31 and Jones, RB, yeah, RB29. So I'm pretty much right in line with ECR on that. The only reason I don't like, like Mason a little bit more than that, it's like the Falcons are kind of a sneaky good run defense. Like, they allow the ninth fewest fantasy points to running backs last year and the 10th fewest rushing yards to running backs last year. So, like, they're not a pushover with their run defense. Past defense, different story. But yeah, he's. He's kind of borderline for me.
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Guys, let's get into some of our start sit player debates. We'll start off at running back, two guys who depending on how you were approaching your drafts like maybe felt fairly late relative to where they were going the year before. There was definitely some fading of these players by some people that I saw online, but they both had really big week ones. Travis ETN and Breece Hall. Jake, I'll start with you. Would you rather start ETN or Hall this week?
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I want to start both of them. They're both inside my top 20 but I will go. Still hall with the slight edge over etn, I know week one was everything we could have asked for from Liancomb in the Jaguars offense, including the trading away of Tank Bigsby. Cool. Clear that up. The one interesting part about it is that laquint Allen was kind of in that Rashad White role, which was actually the player I compared him to during the draft process, funny enough. And I only bring that up to say that even though we saw Bucky Irving outplay Rashad White last year, it took almost the entire season for Liam Cohen to finally bell cow. I put that in quotes. Bucky Irving. So, all that being said, I still want to start ETN in everywhere that I can, but I trust Hall a little bit more. It's not anything that's changed from what you guys and I previously talked about when I brought it up to you that they used the bigger running back next to Justin Fields. And I mean that as in any team that's used Justin Fields, they usually put the bigger body next to him once they're inside the 10 yard line to offset his skill set. That being said, we know that Justin Fields can and does throw to running backs, and he did with Breeze Hall. It was that explosiveness. It's that the fact that. Who is still their number two right now? Josh Reynolds. So I think the real number two is Breeze Hall. So I'm okay with it. I think they're going to have similar workloads. And again, the passing game I think is a little bit better. As crazy as that might sound to people, I think the passing game upside is better for Breeze hall than it is for etf.
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Fitz. I, I think it's probably fair that a lot of people would agree with Jake in terms of like, ideally you'd like to be starting both of these guys, but I think there's probably a lot of builds out there where, you know, they, they're strong at receivers, so there's not room in the flex. And, you know, they took another running back early and you really have to pick between these two given how late ETN was going. So if you were forced to not start Both but pick one, they're, they're, they're RB15 and RB16 respectively. In ECR, who would you pick? Pick?
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And that's how I have them. RB15 and RB16. I have ETN ranked one spot higher, but I don't have a real strong feeling about this. It just, it certainly seems like Liam Cohen wants ETN to be the main man in the Jaguars backfield after what we saw in their win over the Panthers and after, you know, James Gladstone traded away at Tank Bigsby to the Eagles. ETN played 60.6% of the Jaguars offensive snaps last week Bigsby was second in snaps in the Jaguars backfield, but now he's gone. So maybe that snapshare ticks up even a little more for ETN this week. And as for hall, like after an entire off season of Aaron Glenn saying he wanted to use all three of his running backs. I mean the jets did play Braylon Allen and Isaiah Davis some and Braylon Allen had an eight yard touchdown run, but hall played 57.8% of the jets snaps. Pretty healthy snapshare there. I, you know, feel slightly more confident in the size of ETN's role, I guess, but still very encouraging usage for hall in week one.
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I won't ask the same question on every player debate, but for these two in particular, do you guys feel like in terms of your rest of season rankings you are aggressively moving them up after just one week? Because, because these were two guys that like I said at the beginning, there were some people who liked them and thought they were good values where they were and worthy risks. But these were not players that were being aggressively fought after on on draft day for the most part. So do you guys feel like one week I've seen enough both these guys like kind of full steam ahead going forward if you have the space to start them borderline, set it and forget it. Jake or are do you still have any like kind of trepidation based on let's not overreact to just one week.
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So I had whole 22 preseason. I'd probably move them up two spots, bump out Pacheco and obviously Kenneth Walker to go back to that at RB18. So that would pretty much be at like right around 20, maybe a spot or two more if we want to do a complete toss up. So he's not moving that much. ETN was always my highest ranked Jaguar, but that being said, I still had him as an RB3 and part of it was Tank Bixby was still around not knowing if Leon Cohen was really going to turn to ETN or try to make Bixby a thing in etn, a timeshare piece. So the fact that it's already been cleared up, I think you can argue ETN should jump into at leave back end RB2 value if not even a little bit higher.
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Fitz hall was running back 16 in my preseason rankings. Now he's up to 14 in rest of season rankings. So slight move up. ETN was running back 34 for me. Like I just, I had no idea which way that backfield was going to go and thought, you know, last year of his contract maybe he could be a stout at some point and now I've got him at RB14. Like huge, huge change in the way I probably no one else in the league I viewed through more of a different lens after one week than Travis.
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Can I do a follow up question for Fitz? There is is it ETN over every rookie running back not named Genti now?
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Ooh, let's see. I think I might have Hampton. I have Hampton one spot three spots ahead of I've got Hampton RB13.
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Okay.
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Hampton is two spots behind an ECR for this week. For the record, just to to give context there's and and you know guys like Trayvon Henderson are you know seven spots behind and and beyond. Genti's up at RB11 for week two just to give those those numbers. Jake, you keep talking about Kenneth Walker. Let's get to him for our second running back debate here. This is for week two, not for the rest of the season. Kenneth Walker or Javante Williams coming off of his two touchdown game in the opener.
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I have them on completely separate tiers. Javante Williams, like I will admit Javante Williams didn't look 100% pre injury. Javante Williams, I'd say he was, he was about 90% but that was the opportunity we're looking for is hey can he look something like we used to know. But the biggest thing here is something like we used to know. Almost put that Gaultier song in my head and now I just did. Javante Williams kind of falls into what I think is Joe Mixon if healthy Nick Chubb right now and it's the volume. I do think there'll be touches given away. Miles Sanders did get some and then of course that fumble didn't help things. Jaden Blue still isn't ready according to Jerry Jones and everybody with his staff and then probably inactive again this week. So as long as he's healthy it's a volume play and especially against the Giants which the one part about going back to the Giants that it brought up in week one is that to get away from that defensive line is you want to get some space and get some runs out to the side but also some receptions and going against the Giants Javante Williams over Miles Sanders in that area. So that's why and to speak one more time to Kenneth Walker, like I said I wasn't saying don't come for me. Please do like I like if you drafted in August. I am sorry. The clear thing here is I'm hoping and maybe Fitz is kind of mother's Opinion. I don't want to speak for him. I'm kind of curious how you feel though is maybe he's still not 100%. Maybe he's still being worked back in. The appeal for Walker was the fit in the Kubiak system, but week one, the fact that Charbonnet got the goal line touches and they kind of used Walker as the pass down running back, I'm just concerned that that doesn't continue throughout the entire season and maybe the door was so open for Charbonnet that Kubiak already made his decision and that's how they're going to play it unless an injury happens.
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Fitz, what do you think? I think. I think Walker is probably one of the most discussed players this week coming off of week one. Just in terms of like what. Yeah, that's probably a better way to put it. Just like, you know, he. I mean he again, the fit and the offense is really appealing. He was one of my most targeted players in that like round three and four range. If I was going receiver early largely because of what Jake said early in August. No, I'm just kidding. I liked him already too, but I just, just like you could see the upside case so clearly and now we've seen just in one week the downside case. You know, not true, you know, full downside, but like the way, the way in which the ceiling doesn't get hit. So when you look at Walker compared to a guy like Javante who still does not look like the player he used to be, but has this amazing. The re. I was shouting from the rooftops that he was going RB37 in real time ADP by the end of draft season. And I was like, like, that is insane. This is the starting running back who is going to get, I think pretty much every touch he can handle. Just because there's no other competition there for an offense that I expect to be like the poor man's Bengals this year, I. I think he's going to be the poor man's Chase Brown. Not as good a player, but we'll have that kind of opportunity. So you compare him like that, who did take advantage of a Jaylen Carter list defense to a guy like Kenneth Walker where the, the talent's really there. But you know, we have so many questions about the opportunity. How do you square those two? They're two spots apart in ECR. Javante's RB22, Walker's RB24.
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Yeah, you're right about Walker being probably the most discussed player this week. Early this week in the you know, post post Week one Aftermath. And like, I hosted a Q and A on the fantasy pros discord last night, I got more questions about Kenneth Walker than any other player. But you know, at the top of the show, I told Jake he should not capitulate on Kenneth Walker. At least not yet. Look, I'm, I'm not that worried about the Seahawks running back usage in week one. Like, yes, Charbonnet out snapped Kenneth Walker 30 to 21, but as Jake sort of alluded to, Walker was dealing with the foot injury last season and he missed some practice time in August with foot soreness. I think the Seahawks are just being a little cautious here and Charbonnet is one of the better backup running backs in the league, so they can afford to lighten Walker's load if he's not 100%. But like, I don't think the foot issue is a big concern and maybe evidence of that is that Walker got touches on a really high percentage of his snaps. He played 21 snaps. He either carried the ball or ran a route on 19 of them. He had 10 carries and three catches, so touched the ball on more than half of his 21 snaps. So like I'm, I'm still pretty bullish and I am very high on the Kubiak running game. So Javante, you know, he had the two touchdowns against the Eagles. There just wasn't a lot of sizzle in his performance, though. He averaged 3.6 yards per carry against an Eagles defense that was missing Jalen Carter. So I, I still feel much better about Walker than I do about Javante. And like, this is from someone who, to your point, Worm, I fell backwards into Javante Williams in a lot of drafts and I really was not that into him. But I wound up getting him on like three or four teams just because no one wanted to take him.
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I on Javante, on the performance against Philly, I just wanted to quickly say like and I didn't go back and look at actually like what his, you know, yards per carry was before the delay and after. It did feel like those were. I was like a tale of two different games just for the offenses in general when they had that hour plus lightning delay in the opener. So I don't know if his yards per carry and like efficiency, just the general offensive performance like dropped a lot during that. When looking at the course of the whole game, it felt like that kind of threw everybody off and they came out a bit rusty. I mean, I'm so the scoring was way down after that. So I'M curious, I would say I'm curious to see how he does, you know, you know, moving forward against a more normal team. But he's facing Dexter Lawrence this week, so, you know, that's maybe not the easiest matchup for him. And we'll, we'll see how that goes. Let's go to the wide receiver debates here. Tyreek Hill versus Ricky Pierce, all Pierce hall. Obviously interesting in that he had a pretty good looking, you know, first game in terms of the usage. And you know, he, he's obviously a talented player. But now we have this quarterback issue in San Francisco. Going to be Mac Jones for a month.
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Ish.
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You kind of mentioned it at the top of the show, Fitz, that there's a little uncertainty about what that exactly is going to look like. But I have him here going head to head against, you know, just a player on the most seemingly dysfunctional and the worst vibes team that I can ever recall seeing in week one in my life. And I watched the Ravens beat The Miami Dolphins 59 to 10 in Week 1 in Lamar's second season, his first year as a starter. And I still feel like the vibes were worse in this week one game than they were in 2019. That's how just bad it looked on both sides of the ball for Miami. So Fitz, I'll start with you on this one. Hill or pure Saul, who do you like better this week?
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I suspect this is going to be a, this opinion is going to put me in the minority here, but I would play Tyreek like I know there's a chance. Pierce Law gets a lot of targets this week with George Kittle out with a hamstring injury, Juan Jennings probably out with a shoulder injury. And like, I don't think we should be that alarmed that it's going to be Mac Jones at QB rather than Brock Purdy because of Purdy's toe injury. But I also think there's a good chance. Christian McCaffrey touches the ball 25 times and Brian Robinson touches it a dozen times. And the 49ers just try to beat a bad Saints team with a ball control attack that mostly uses the running game and the short passing game. Like as for Tyreek, our guy Debro made some really interesting points about him in the primer this week. So the Dolphins pulled their starters in the fourth quarter because they were getting steamrolled by the Colts. But in the first three quarters, Tyreek had a 27.8% target share, a 48.2% air yard share, a 30.8% first read share and he averaged 2.5 yards per route run. All really encouraging numbers. But unfortunately, you know, Tua was just awful. So Tyreek hill had like four catches for 40 yards. I don't think Tua is terrible. Like, he led the league in passing yardage a couple years ago. He just had a really, really bad game. Dolphins are back at home. They're playing the Patriots, who've been playing without star cornerback Christian Gonzalez, and they got completely firebombed by Geno Smith and the Raiders passing game last week. I'm still starting Tyreek Hill.
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Jake, I'm curious not just what you think about these two players, you know, head to head, but what you think about the Miami situation in general. If you are buying into the idea that, hey, this is just like as bad as it gets in week one, but, you know, they're still healthy so let's give them a chance for a bounce back or if this is just going to be a lost season for them.
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I think it could be the latter. I mean, let me ask you guys one question. What the hell did Mike McDaniel do since last January? Like, what the hell did he do? Because the NFL adjusted to Mike McDaniel and offense and he had an entire off season to do the same. And through week one, at least, it looked like Jack Bleep. You know what? Like, there's no. There's no sugar coating it to the fact of there's no excuse. Like, there's a reason he's on the hot seat. There's a reason that Greer's on the hot seat. The offensive line is still a question mark. And the biggest concern I have, which is going to maybe even sound crazy, but it has nothing to do with the players, is that he didn't shove Tyreek Hill under the bus, but he kind of like nudged him off the corner there and saying, like, you know, I'm sorry, not Tyreek Hill. Tua, about the quarterback play, he kind of like walked past him, kind of like bumped into him as the bus was coming by. Like, when you take shots at your quarterback, you're in panic mode. Like, your job is on the line and you're in panic mode. So I am going Ricky Pearsall. I don't fault Fitz for still sticking with Tyreek Hill. Actually would trade low if I could or buy low on him. I have people asking me if they should drop Jalen Waddle. There's no way on earth I'm dropping Jalen Waddle after one bad game. But I lean to what Fish said though is Mac Jones supported Brian Thomas enough that Brian Thomas was a top 10 wide receiver. I think he can do the same for Ricky Pearsall to in this start. Whether or not Jennings is out there to offset the volume. The one concern I think would be the floor and the fist didn't say this but I wonder if he would agree the floor would be what if Mac Jones locks in on a healthy Joanne Jen, like if Joanne Jennings is out there and Mac Jones locks in on him instead of Pierce. So I think that's the one risk and I could see that happening if Jennings is out there.
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There.
A
Yeah. The 49ers offense in general. Like I wonder if this is maybe like foolish of me but I just like I don't really care who the quarterback is. Like I just have too much faith in Kyle Shanahan and like we've seen him do it with with really surprising and bad quarterbacks in the past to the point where like Mac Jones is good enough that I'm like, you know what like with. With Kyle Shanahan calling plays and designing stuff. Like I think he can be enough and I think that's a great point on The Brian Thomas Jr thing how like we have seen him kind of support, you know, this really elite level receiver play from a guy before Fitz. What do you make of Jake's point about like maybe he just locks in on Jennings?
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Yeah, that could be you just. That's the thing. You just don't know how it's going to work with Mac Jones at the controls. That's like a little bit of my hesitation with Piersaw, but I think Pierce Law is an obvious start this week though.
C
Yeah.
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Let's go to another wide receiver debate here. And this is a player that I included in the start sit from the waiver ad section but I thought it was an interesting they were near each other in ecr. Marquis Brown or Roma Dunze who You know it wasn't the biggest game for the Chicago passing offense in week one, but he did catch a touchdown obviously. Year two Jake, I know dunes somebody that you were really interested in so him here in week two of year two going up against Hollywood Brown. Who do you prefer?
C
Oh, I got Roman D. Still similar to the Jameson Williams conversation. I understand Hollywood Brown if you want the floor, but I feel like that's all it is against the floor and I don't like the fact that he's going against the Eagles again and it has nothing to do with the super bowl. It just has to do with the fact that I'm worried about the Eagles secondary, I'm worried about the fact that it's going to take 10 targets to get that value that we were talking about earlier just to maybe peck into wide receiver.
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2.
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The guy had 16 targets and needed a big play at the end of the game to get 99 yards, not even 100 yards. And I'm not saying things won't change this week. Obviously the game plan shifted as soon as Xavier Worthy get hurt got hurt and maybe they use Brown downfield a little bit more. It's still not the best matchup for me and I know the Detroit secondary is possibly on par with the Eagles. I would still give it to the Eagles. I bring that up to say that the Lions are concerning enough but gets the Packers. I don't think they showed anything where I wouldn't say, you know what, I'm going to go out there and play a Dunes A again. I will admit here's the one caveat. If you don't like the floor, the lower floor is clearly with the Dunes.
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A. Yeah, Fitz, are you looking at this through that same prism of like the what the floor could be in the end, the ceiling or do you have like an easier call in terms of you really like one player versus the other?
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Yeah, I mean I definitely think the floor is safer with Hollywood. Like he's going to get a huge number of targets again out of necessity and but I, I don't know how long he's going to hold up if Patrick Mahomes keeps peppering him with these short throws and making him face tacklers who weigh a hundred pounds more than he does. It seems like Hollywood is a good bet for at least six or seven catches this week, maybe more if he doesn't get knocked out of the game. But like Caleb Williams started off well against the Vikings on Monday night, but things just went off the rails for him in the second half and now the Bears have to go on the road to face the Lions, who are going to be in a really foul mood after getting smoked by the packers in Week one. Like I don't think this game is going to go well at all for the Bears. So even though I think the Lions are probably going to be without Terry and Arnold, one of their cornerbacks, like I I don't really want to start any of the Bears this week week.
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All right, let's go to the rapid fire start sit decisions here. We've got players at every position included in this one at running back Isaiah Pacheco or Zach Charbonnet who we kind of talked about from the other side of it in that backfield with Kenneth Walker already. Fitz, I'll start with you on this one. Pacheco or Charbonnet this week?
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Pacheco. We just talked about the Walker Charbonnet dynamic and I I think the balance of power in the backfield probably shifts back towards Walker in the coming week. I know Pacheco investors are really freaked out that he got five carries in Week 1, but the Chiefs trailed by like seven to 10 points for most of that game and Pacheco pretty much dominated the early down snaps. Yeah, Kareem Hunt and Rashard Smith played on passing downs and it was mostly Hunt and short yardage situations, which is annoying. But the bottom line is that Pacheco I think looks like his 2023 self, not the ghost of Isaiah Pacheco we saw last year when he came back from the broken leg and presumably without Rasheed Rice and Xavier Worthy this week like the Chiefs at least have to accomplish some sort of balance run pass on offense to avoid putting too much pressure on a pretty mid group of pass catchers and to avoid overexposing Mahomes to one of the better pass rushes in the league. So I'm going with Pacheco.
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Jake, what do you think?
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So for all the reasons until that last part I was agreeing with Fitzis and why I would go both Seahawks running backs over Pacheco. I just, I have legit concerns. Like if you told me this game was competitive from the jump throughout the entire way I would agree. I just don't know that the Eagles just don't gobsmack them again. I just think the Eagles match up too well with the Chiefs. Nothing to do with the Super Bowl. I just look at every position out. I mean honestly I was going to say outside of court you could argue Matt Mahomes is a better quarterback quarterback. Hall of Famer Hertz will be a Hall of Famer in time too. But my point being is like position by position. I'm just going to take the Eagles and I'm worried that if they are playing even seven points down from the first quarter that the snap counts. Just going to be exactly what we saw last week and that's my fear.
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I am not ready to have a Jalen Hurts hall of Fame debate just given all the conversation it's going to happen.
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How much credit Anybody who doesn't have them inside the top 10, even potentially top 5 is just looking for clickbait like stop.
A
Yeah top 10. I totally agree. But like, no, we don't have to get into the hall of Fame.
C
I still take your boy Lamar over him every single time. Don't, don't get too upset.
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I should, I should. I should hope so that that's an off season conversation we can have. Hall of Fame case for Jalen hurts. Let's go to a receiver one here. Cedric. Excuse me, Cedric Tillman or Chris Olave? Jake, I'll start with you on this one. Who do you like better for week two, Tillman or Olave?
C
For everybody that wants to come for me for Kenneth Walker, hopefully you also came with me for Cedric Tillman. Are enjoying this ride because Cedric Tillman. And Cedric Tillman is going to rank over Chris Olave for me this week. I do think Chris Olave is a nice value. I think he's very much though in the Marquis Brown realm where he's going to need a ton of targets. He's just going to need the volume which is there. But of the two offenses I trust more and Joe Flacco, of course it could go belly up in Baltimore against your boys. But at the same time, I will say this sounds crazy to say I didn't check the weather as of yet because I don't until Saturday. But like if it was rain, I would make the switch. Like, this is a bad game for passing potential. But I do believe that Joe Flacco is going to pass plenty against the Ravens. I do think the Ravens are vulnerable as we just saw in week one. And no, I'm not putting Joe Flacco on the same level of those passing games. But Cedric Tillman, I brought this up about the Harold Fanning thing. The Harold Fanon concern is not just in Joku. It's Jerry Judy that's similar to the Tyler Warren Josh down situation is they're going to involve similar areas of the field, similar usage. And I just think Tillman's the answer is the one for the Browns.
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Yeah, Tillman. Tillman scares me honestly. Like as a, just as a Ravens fan, like, it would not shock me. I truthfully if he ends up having a, like a pretty decent game. Even if you think about the Ravens, is this like tougher matchup? I mean the best game of his, you know, career so far when he had that huge, you know, kind of run last season. The best of those games came against the Ravens. He had seven catches, 99 yards and two touch. I was in the building for that one.
C
So I remember you got to see it firsthand.
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I was in Cleveland and he, I Said this a bunch last year on the show. Like the eye test from being in the, being in that stadium. I was just like this dude looks like, like, like a beast of an NFL receiver. Like I'm like he's going to be really good obviously concussion stuff and everything like that. But he torched the Ravens last October. It would not shock me if it happened again this week. Fitz, how are you ranking this one? Tillman or Alave?
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Alave. He had 13 targets last week. He's just, he's going to be such a big part of the Saints passing game and yes, it's one of the worst passing games in the league, but Olave is probably the best thing about it. I like Tillman. He's a player on the rise. But like I, I talked about this in the off season how Olave's yards per route run for his career is right up there with like Jamar Chase and CD Lamb. Like Olave is just in a different class than Cedric Tillman.
A
I've got a handful of flex questions here. David Montgomery or Emeka Egbuca coming off his great first game in his NFL debut. Fitz, starting with you on this one. Montgomery or Igbuka this week?
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Yeah, I mean I've got Igbuka fever too, but I'm going with Monty here. I just think the Lions are going to crush the Bears and the Detroit running game is going to have a big day.
C
Jake, this is a pure do you want the floor versus the upside? So Montgomery vacuum Montgomery. But if you need the higher ceiling, I still think that lies with a Buka even in a tougher matchup.
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Let me ask you this. Coming off that first week, I mean Chris Godwin is like starting practice again. He's not going to be back for a few weeks still. But, but you know he will be back eventually in some level of, you know, health. Igbuka, for you guys coming off that week one, where is he rest of season amongst receiver rankings?
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I thought you were going to ask if sell high and I was going to say yes immediately. And it's not the fact that I don't believe in Igbuka. It's just I believe Mike Evans is a great buy low. I believe that Chris Godwin is going to be a factor but kind of more of like it's going to be a thorn for everybody is that when we have a good comparison will be like Tyler Boyd in the years with the Bengals somebody even as valuable as Tyler Boyd's best season was still only wide receiver 40 somebody is going to have to take a back ish seat. Could it be Godwin? Absolutely. But could it also be Igbuka? Sure. I don't think the issue here is I don't think it's going to be Mike Evans. I think Mike Evans is locked in no matter what. So that's why I say sell high because everybody's going nuts for him right now and deservedly so. But if you can get wide receiver one value, I wouldn't put him in the wide receiver one conversation. I would put him in a group with like Devonte Adams and your boy Zay Flowers. So like still back end wide receiver too for me.
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Fitz, what do you think?
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Rest of season wide receiver 27 There you go. I'm not really worried about Godwin displacing him honestly.
A
Okay, let's go to another flex here. DK Metcalf versus Travion Henderson. Two guys that we actually we talked about both of them last week on the show but not going up against each other. So now after seeing them in these, you know one is a rookie one in a new offense for the season year one week in. Who do we like better for week two? Fitz, I'll start with you on this one. Henderson or Metcalf?
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Metcalf like his ECR this week is wide receiver 18 which seems a little too high for me but I could still flex him over Henderson. I'm. I'm pro Henderson. But we have to acknowledge the reality that Henderson was out snapped by ramon Ray Stevenson 46 to 25 in week one. And Henderson doesn't necessarily need a big snapshare to make his fantasy quota in any given week, but a 35% Snapchat. Like I'm not playing a guy with a 35% Snapchat over an alpha receiver.
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The I'm curious if you agree with what I'm about to say, Jake, but the reason that I would like consider leaning Henderson here even despite that snapshare is just that like I think there's a real chance that Miami is just the defense to target this season and like I don't I could just start any player who's even remotely worth considering starting. Maybe that's an overreaction to week one, but it I just thought it was like the type of game that really sets the tone for the season and I will be very happy to start opposing players against them. What do you think Henderson or Metcalf?
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So I'm chuckling for two reasons. One is I have Henderson barely in front of Metcalf and then two, I'm wondering if the Fitz and I are ever going to agree the rest of the way. We're kind of on opposite sides here. I'm a little bit more with you not just because of the Dolphins offense and look like this is going to come for a slight for Patriots fans, but maybe I'm giving Variable McDaniels too much credit here. But. But they had to see the same thing we saw in Week one, right? There was no question who the best running back and one of the best talents for their offense on the field was. If I'll put it this way. If you are correct Fitz and it's the fact that the snapshare does stay at 35, 40% for Henderson, there is something wrong in the heads of Rabel and McDaniels. There is no reason this should repeat in week two. Just like there's one coming up with another running back that should not repeat in Week two.
A
The next starts at decision Here is Dylan Sampson or Jalen Waddle. Starting with you on this one, Jake.
C
Just Sampson, my boy. I have way too many Browns this year. I can't believe I'm like riding with so many Browns in my fantasy leagues. It comes down to like it wasn't just the eight for eight and one of the leading receiving options is oh by the way they're going against the Ravens which you expect to have to pass Judkins as of today we still don't even know and even if he's out there, how much is going to be involved and even if he is involved, even if he's the clear lead and Jerome Ford doesn't get a touch who is still Austin Eckler on this offense? Dylan Sampson. I am going to ride Dylan Sampson until the wheels fall off.
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Fitz.
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I'm going Waddle and we're still having a good I know Jake and I disagreeing the entire way. Like I don't think the Miami offense will be as bad as it was last week and maybe the team in general like like Matt Peralt of Betting Pros. Our our Betting pros host. Like he pointed out Miami has been really good at home early in the season and maybe part of it is that like it gets, it gets cooking down in Miami in early September and I think the Dolphins somehow have it configured that the visiting team has to be in the bench on the sun side of the field like the entire game. So like Miami's record is really good. I think they have a better game this week. The last time Waddle faced New England was week 12 of last season easily Waddles best game of the year. Eight catches, 144 yards and a touchdown. I don't want to start a Browns running back against the Ravens.
C
Mostly as of today, mostly cloudy and rainy for Sunday fest. Does that change your opinion?
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Oh, no.
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I don't think the Ravens have that strong of a run defense this year. They lost Michael Pierce. Like I thought it was the part of the defense that was most likely to struggle. Obviously week one Josh Allen torched the secondary. He's Josh Allen. So like, you know, who knows what that's going to look like going forward. But I, I, I need to see more from the Ravens defense to be like wanting to avoid them with running backs and particularly pass catching running backs. Like, I don't think they're Kyle Hamilton's very good against screens. I don't know if this defense as a whole is very good against screens. At least it hasn't been in recent years. So like any kind of pass catching back like Dylan Sampson coming off of a game where he caught eight passes, it would not surprise me if he actually has a pretty good day in any type of half PPR or PPR format. And I also just, I mean, Fitz, you know this. I loved Sampson in the draft process and, and I loved the fit, especially with Judkins not being around. So I kind of just want to ride Sampson until he gives me a reason not to.
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Honestly, Worm, you, you voluntarily brought up the Ravens Bills game. I guess the healing has begun.
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Just yesterday I started listening to some of the recap shows that I' putting off for a few days because I needed to emotionally recover from it. You know, it's a long season. All right. You know, a loss in week one doesn't kill him. So that was a tough few days for me. Let's go to another flex and get off that game as quickly as possible. Michael Pittman or RJ Harvey this week? Fitz, I'll start with you.
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All right, let's see if Jake and I can finally find a love connection here. We should not be on the Newlywed. Newlywed, yeah. Together because we would not win. I'm going to go RJ Harvey. I hate that he only had a 29% SNAP share against the Titans last week, but we saw the big play potential. He had a 50 yard run where it looked like he was shot out of a freaking cannon and I, I don't want to play any quarterback or wide receiver against the Broncos unless it's a star level guy. The Denver pass defense is just too nasty. Best in the league.
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Jake, we barely agree this time. Finally. Yeah, flip it over. That's. And this is who I was alluding Trevion Henderson is you clearly need to get the ball to RJ Harvey more. And I know Sean Payton is going to do Sean Payton things as he does. Use multiple running backs, hell, rotate his wide receivers on top of it. Marvin Mims was disappointing. Maybe we should be looking at Troy Franklin or maybe he goes back again and switches it all up because he's Sean Payton. But the one thing I do know is that he knows enough to get the best out of his running backs and I think he's going to give more touches to Harvey this week.
A
All right, I want to do a quarterback one and a tight end one to wrap things up. We'll start with quarterback one. How about Patrick Mahomes versus Drake May? They are both ranked very highly this week as QB ones. I had it up yesterday. I want to see if it's moved at all. I believe they were QB10 and QB11 when I last looked those QB9 and QB10. Now Mahomes is at QB9, May is at QB10. But I think it's very possible there are teams out here who have Mahomes as their starter when they drafted and then Drake May as their backup. So with them being back to back here in the rankings, I wanted to throw them in there. Fitz, I'll start with you Mahomes or May.
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I've got Mahomes ranked one spot higher. I don't like that his passing, his pass catching weaponry is so depleted. But like Mahomes is still a great quarterback. We saw him run pretty aggressively last week against the Chargers. I can't wait to see how Drake May plays against the Dolphins because Miami blitzed at the highest rate in the league in week one and obviously it didn't work out very well against the Colts. So a big game is definitely in play for Drake May. But if he's not as far along as we hope and doesn't handle the blitz well, like maybe he has a terrible game. So I, I think Mahomes is probably just a little safer.
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What do you think Jake?
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Yeah, we disagree again. Yay. It just comes. It's a safer I don't disagree with. It's the rushing upside that it continues to vault May with the higher ceiling at quarterback and again I keep going back to this Eagles matchup and you know, maybe Mahomes flips it. Maybe he's pulling like what we've seen from the greats. He's figured out enough and he's seen enough of the Eagles that it's finally, you can see what I do now this week. But I still feel like the ceiling is with May. They're very close, though. I have them back to back as well.
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Tight end T.J. hawkinson or Kyle Pitts? Jake, who do you have here if.
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TJ Hawkinson couldn't do it with no Jordan? As in, like, how worried are we going to be when he finally comes back in two more games? And I just bring that up to say, like, why not go after Kyle Pitts like it happened in Week one and for everybody out there that maybe didn't watch the game, Kyle Pitts hasn't changed. He still can't separate. He's still not great in his routes. But the one thing they did in Week one that I liked is, by the way, oh, you have this athletic matchup problem. He basically played power forward. He was leaning into him and spinning off the coverage. It wasn't like he was a great separator. So he's still Kyle Pitts. It's just they're kind of figuring this out. Like, hey, maybe we don't ask him to run routes where he doesn't separate. So the potential that we don't have. London or Mooney or Boy both. I think that Kyle Pitts is in play. And I go back to like I said about TJ Hawkinson, who by the way, wasn't even barely involved in that amazing fourth quarter by JJ McCarthy.
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Fitz, do you like Hawkinson or Kyle Pitts?
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Yeah, Jake nailed it. I mean, Pitts seven catches for 59 yards on eight targets last week, Hawkinson three for 15 on four targets. I'm not basing this solely on last week's results, but Kyle Pitts is probably more essential to his team's passing game right now than hot talk is to his, especially if Darnell Mooney is out again for the Falcons.
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Yeah, I could take the layup with Jamar Chase, him bounce back. That would be super easy. But I'm not going to do that. I'm going to go a little bit deeper and actually outside top 20, 25 wide receivers and George Pickens to do it against the Giants. I think Dak Prescott is going to come on strong this game, as Dak Prescott loves to do against the Giants. But also looking at the secondary, I know they added a debut, but that was because Banks had been so disappointing that got kicked to second or third, depending on how they want to use it. And that's the big thing is Slam can do his thing anywhere. But if you're looking for the opportunity for those big plays and Pickens to take, you know, basically control that secondary coverage that he's going to face, I think this could be like the pickings that we hope to see when he was signing with the Cow or traded to the Cowboys and then signed. I think this is 100 and a touchdown potential.
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So we know that based on last week, Jake and I are going to hit this because running back and receiver are easy. Fitz, can you be the first one to hit a tight end to touchdown call this year?
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Tall order. And I'm going to go with kind of an unconventional choice here. Brenton strange. He had four catches for 59 yards for the Jaguars last week, and I think he has another good game Sunday against the Bengals defense that really gives it up to tight ends.
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All right, so we got Chase Brown, George Pickens and Brenton Strange as our picks in the touchdown calls contest. You can dominate your fantasy football league with fantasy Pros Premium, now available for free for six months.
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Episode: Week 2 Lineup Advice: Starts, Sleepers, Sits, Player Debates, and TD Calls (Ep. 1703)
Date: September 12, 2025
Host: Ryan Warmly with Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitz) and Jake Seeley
This episode dives deep into Week 2 start/sit decisions, popular waiver wire adds, player debates at key positions, rest-of-season value shifts, and those all-important “plant your flag” calls. The show runs matchup-centric analysis, debates risers and fallers after a wild Week 1, and wraps with touchdown predictions. The tone is sharp but chill, with the usual banter and expert insight from three voices at the top of the fantasy football game.
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This episode is loaded with actionable advice, strong start/sit stances, and solid statistical context for tough lineup calls. Whether you’re working waivers or sweating your RB2 slot, you'll find trustworthy guidance here.