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Week 6 Buy Low + Sell High Wide Receiver Targets (Ep. 1759)
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Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football podcast. I'm Ryan Warmley, joined as I am every Tuesday by Andrew Erickson. We are talking wide receiver buys and sells. We'll sprinkle in a little quarterback and tight end for you. We already did the running back show, so if you missed that, check it out on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast. This show is split into two parts each and every week. So if you're only catching one, be sure to catch the other two. We, we're proud of both. We like doing both, so check them both out. Like I said, this is the wide receiver one. Though, before we jump in, I do want to let everybody know that if they want a chance to win one of the most unique pieces of NFL fan gear out there, the large NFLPA Wall smack, courtesy of our good friends at Trophy Smack, the number one destination for epic fantasy football hardware, then this is your shot. They're oversized, officially licensed NFLPA Wall Smackdown are bold statement pieces that are perfect for your fan cave office or living room wall. It's not just decor, it's a way to rep your favorite players in style. To enter, all you need to do is subscribe to the Fantasy Pros YouTube channel right now. Drop a comment below on any of our videos. That is it. We will be announcing a winner right here on the channel, so make sure to turn on notifications so you don't miss your chance to claim this epic prize. All right, Ericson, who is your number one wide receiver to buy?
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Well, it's always Tetrao McMillan. He's always the number one wide receiver by but he's not making the official list because I figured I'd give you guys a break and you guys all know he's a buy. So the official buy for the show is Rashi Rice for the Kansas City Chiefs. We are one week away from him returning to the Chiefs starting lineup. He had a six game suspension, so there's one more game that he's going to miss and he will return for the Chiefs starting in week seven. And I just think that this is kind of the last opportunity you'll get to try to acquire Rashi Rice. Now, what will his role exactly be when he returns to this offense that looks a lot different than it did at the beginning of last year when Rashi Rice was basically a fantasy wide receiver one. So I'm trying to acknowledge that Xavier Worthy wasn't a thing as a rookie, that at that time Marquis Brown was hurt. Taekwond Thornton was not even on the roster for the Chiefs. So the offense looks a little bit different than it did during Rashi Rice's stretch. But if Rice can hit the ground running, at least when he gets a couple games under his belt, you could see him being a top 10 scorer out the wide receiver position for the rest of the season. If he just steps in is the leading target earner for the Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs often still isn't perfect. Yes, getting Xavier Worthy back I think helped a lot and they've shown dramatic improvements. But maybe Rice is really the final piece of the puzzle that really gets this passing game going even more to that next level. And I think Rice, his price is going to range all over the place because I think that a lot of managers and fantasy gamers are trying to figure out where should his value be. And I'm really more on the bullish side of trying to buy into Rashi Rice. So I think that especially if Rice is on a roster that has a losing record again, he's not going to help you this week. So if a manager has Rice and they need wins right now, I think that this is an opportunity for a team with a winning record to acquire Rice maybe a little bit cheaper and with an idea of this guy can be a difference maker, a league winner down the stretch in the second half of the season when it matters most less. So right now, when he is coming back from an injury and they do want to get him, you know, get games under his belt. So I think Rice is a really polarizing player just in general. You know, he was a polarizing player during draft season and then he got suspended and then his draft stock basically tanked. But now that he's going to be returning in just one week, I think that I would rather be more aggressive on trying to get someone like Rice on my team for that second half surge. Potentially.
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Yeah, I wanted to kind of dig down on this. So when you like, are you planting your flag on like, I think Rashi Rice will be this really high ceiling like league winner or are you just saying it's a, it's a risk worth taking, it's a, it's a bet worth making at this point or do you really believe like, like, like when we are sitting here a week from now, where are you going to be ranking Rashid Rice rest of season?
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Yeah, that's a really good question. I think that I'm probably more on the process play behind it. I think that he's a good bet to make and I think that this is a transit transaction that nine times out of 10, maybe not nine times out of 10, but in retrospective I think that you're going to be happy that you attempted to go after Rice because we all know in fantasy that it really comes down to a couple players, right that make the difference. And I think Rashi Rice at least showed last year that he can be a difference making fantasy wide receiver and I think that's worth going after. Based on he was a second round pick before the suspension. All that nonsense happened. He was a second round pick in redraft and I don't think that you're going to have to pay. If we did a redraft today, I don't think he would be going in the second round even knowing that he's going to be coming back in one week. So I think you're getting a little bit of a discount with him and I think that the upside with him is just so tremendous. That package, a couple guys that are higher floor players. I think that that's a deal I would try to make to get Rashi Rice on my roster just because I think that even if it's not week seven where he hits the ground running, we've seen guys come back. I mean Stevon Diggs, right, much older receiver coming off torn acl. The first couple weeks of the season it was kind of meh. He looks like an older guy and then week four comes around and he just looks like a completely different player. Oh man. He is like fully back and ready to go. Yes. I just want Rice on my roster going back to what we talked about in the running back show, acquiring good players. I know Rashi Rice is a good player and I know that he, if he is fully healthy, can be the number one receiver on this Chiefs offense and be someone that can be a top 10 guy rest of season. So I want those guys on my team.
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Rasheed Rice or Brian Thomas Jr. Rest of season.
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Oh man. I think, I think I'd probably go with with Rashi Rice just because I've Seen it with Mahomes and him connect and be that type of super productive player. Whereas with Brian Thomas Jr. And Trevor Lawrence. I don't know if it's there necessarily. Brian Thomas Jr. Has been trending in the right direction the last couple of weeks. I don't know. How do you feel about that? I'm. I say Rice, but I'm not like, I'm not very sold on. I think it's really close. Where are you Brian Thomas all the way or are you kind of.
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I'm definitely not either of them all the way. They're back to back in ECR fantasy pros.com/rest Rankings. So. And I think that's fair that they are very close to each other. I definitely, I think I might prefer Thomas, but I would not like. There's not a lot of conviction in me saying that. Like I'm very open to the idea that Rice is the correct answer here. And like three weeks from now it might, it might be like, wow, what an idiot. I can't believe he, he considered Thomas over Rice. Like, like there's a chance that Rice comes back and it's just very obvious in the first half of his first game. Like, oh yeah, like this is this. This guy was a league winner before he got hurt last year and now he's finally back on the field. He's had all this time now. Rust is a real thing. And also injuries like you don't always look the same coming back from them. And it's been so long since the injury that I think everybody is just assuming that he'll be totally fine. That may be the case. Right. There's not it like we're hearing reports that he's still working his way back injury wise or anything like that, but you never know till you're on the field and getting hit again. So that is in the back of my mind with Rice, which is why maybe I'm leaning more towards Thomas. The upside is. Is high for both, right? We saw what Thomas did at the end of last season. Not with Trevor Lawrence, but we saw what he did the end of last season. We know what, what Rice can do when he's healthy and, and getting usage. So like there is upside with both of these, which is why I kind of go back. Like if I to the guy on the other side of Rice in the rankings again, if, you know, back to back is Zay Flowers. I'd much rather ever see Rice and Zay Flowers. That one is very easy for me because I just think the ceiling is so much like clearly so much higher for him. But with Thomas you can paint a picture for a high ceiling and so that's why I'm like a little bit I find that one to be difficult which is why I asked you because I, I think you could go either way with it, honestly.
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Yeah, no, that, that one is, that one's, that one's tight.
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I'll be curious to hear in the comments. I hope everybody will drop in like who they prefer rest of season as of right now knowing that you're you're missing this next week with Rice still. But as of right now, would you rather Brian Thomas Jr. Or Rashee Rice rest of the season? Definitely. Let us know you've got another big name here on your wide receivers to.
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Buy Erickson Drake London, wide receiver for the Atlanta Falcons. Now he's coming off a bye week so I don't think that he is top of mind but I just want to remind people that he had a monster game in Week 4. Doing a lot of his damage in the first half. Six catch for 95 yards and a touchdown on seven first half targets 38% target share, 40% target rate per outrun. This was the exact box score in usage that I was expecting when I was pumping up Drake London as a potential wide receiver. One candidate all draft season long with Michael Penix Jr. As the Falcons quarterback. So another thing that I looked at when looking at who were players to buy after the first four weeks, first five weeks of the 2024 season and some of those players were receivers that were underwhelming a little bit, but there was a possibility that they would see improved quarterback play throughout the rest of the season. One of the top guys that comes to mind, actually two of those players were Terry McLaurin and Cortland Sutton. Two guys that started out last year really, really bad. But they both had rookie quarterbacks who took some time to kind of get more games under their belt. Michael Penix jr. Is not a rookie quarterback, but he's not a veteran NFL quarterback where he's played so many games at the NFL level. I mean this is his second year but he only started a handful of games as a rookie. So I still think that Penck is getting the NFL game under his belt and I just want to be buying into this Falcons offense. They have one of the top schedules rest of season. If you look at the fantas strength of schedule tool Falcons for wide receivers have a top six rest of season schedule. Darnell Mooney's been banged up a little bit he's coming off the buy, but he should be okay. But I just want to continue to buy into this Drake London Michael Penix connection I think is going to grow outside of their bye week and I think it's noteworthy that the Falcons after week three, when they got destroyed by the Carolina Panthers, they fired their wide receiver coach, they hired somebody else and so far so good when it comes to that coaching transaction to get Drake London the ball a little bit more. So through four games, Drake London is wide receiver eight and expected fantasy points per game. He's also PFF's 10th highest graded wide receiver. So he's been efficient, he's seeing more targets and I'm optimistic about this Falcons passing game kind of taking stride with Penx after the bye week. So buying Drake London off the bye week, he's not top of mind and he's already got his bye week in the bank so he's a good buy for me.
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He is, I mean obviously highly ranked and is coming off a good game two weeks ago. So he's not going to be cheap. This is, this is like I don't know if buy high is the correct term coming off of, of a buy week, but it's not a buy low. Right. So do you like, how high would you go? Who are some of the names that you would like, say? Like I know this guy is really good and I'm still willing to give him up. I'm going to look at like our flex rankings here. He's most like Devon Hn is near him amongst the flex rankings. James Cook is a few spots lower. It's mostly receivers around his area. CD Lam, you know Justin Jefferson. Obviously Jefferson has his own bye week this week. Lamb dealing with the injury. Garrett Wilson is on there, but those are the types of names that are around Drake London in the rest of season rankings.
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Could you do Chase plus to get Drake London?
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Yeah, I mean I was going to loop this in that you know Jamar Chase is your first wide receiver to sell. So we can kind of do that now. Like I assume you would give Chase to get London.
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Yes, yes, I would definitely give Chase to get.
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I mean I, I know you kind of laugh like Chase is coming off of a great game of course. And, and I, I think there's a path to similar. He, I mean he's not going to be wide receiver two every week like without Joe Burrow. But I think there will be spike weeks even with Jake Browning. They're just going to be fewer and further, further between. Like I don't think this is the last time he has 100 yards in a touchdown in a game just because he's Jamar Chase.
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But this. Would you be, would you be shocked if this is the best game he has all year?
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No, it would not. Shock.
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Exactly. So that's part of the reason.
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Well, actually, let me rephrase. He faces the Ravens twice even with Jake Browning. He's gonna do better than that in those games.
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Besides.
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And by the way, that way that's week 13 and week 15. So, like, we'll help you get into the playoffs. And in the fantasy playoffs with Jamar Chase, there's obviously just two games. There's other harder games in there.
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I think that Jamar Chase, and this was a question I got a lot this week was, do I sell Jamar Chase? Do I smell? Do I sell Jamar Chase? And I said, no, you can't sell them this week. You sell them. If you're going to sell them, you sell them after he faces the Lions. And that ended up working out right, even though the, the stats are a little bit garbage time because the Bengals were down 283 and the Lions kept losing key starters on defense. And every time somebody went down, it was like, oh, another touchdown to Jamar Chase. So I think that the final box score is a little bit misleading. Again, still counts. Counts all the same. Jamar Chase is a monster if they get him the football. But I think that this is your window if you want to try to cash out on Jamar Chase and not deal with the Jake Browning nonsense or I've heard rumors that they're going to try to trade for Kirk Cousins or James Winston. Winston would obviously be a ton of fun. But whoever is the quarterback for the Bengals, this offensive line is just terrible. That's one of the biggest thing. And especially when they go on. I mean, they're playing at the packers this week. I get the packers secondary got roasted by Dak Prescott the last time we saw them. But this packers pass rush is going to just make Jake Browning's life absolutely. Just going to be terrible for him, especially on the road with Green Bay coming off a bye week. So that's bad news. I think that Chase, when he's playing at home, he'll probably have better games. Week seven through nine, he's going to be at home for a three game homestead. And then like you mentioned, the fantasy postseason, you have the Ravens at home, you have the Dolphins as some juicy matchups. So I think there are going to be opportunities, like you mentioned, that Chase is going to have some good games here and there. But if you're trying to get wins right now, and chances are if you have Jamar Chase, you drafted number one overall, you probably need wins right now. Like your team's probably not doing super great. You probably got to move them right now and not. That's not to say that I think a 60 team could use Jamar Chase. Just, hey, I got him just in case I need him. Maybe Burrow does come back. I think that's an interesting approach to it. I don't think this is just like, oh, he's obviously a sell. He's obviously a, a buy a buy low type of player, especially coming off a big game. But I think that in a vacuum, I would rather be on the selling side of Jamar Chase. Just we've seen the sample size of Jake Browning now through a lot of different games. And I mean yes, tomorrow is going to have spike weeks here and there, but for the most part it's been underwhelming and it's definitely not as good as it is when Joe Burrow is the quarterback. So if you were going to look trying to sell him again. We tried to talk about this last week, like give it one more week. He's gonna have a good game against the Lions. The good game came and now is your opportunity CV see what you can get in return. I think it's just worth it to put him on the trade block to see if you can get any nibbles.
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He's ranked really close to London in the rest of season ranking. So all those names I read before when talking about buying London, would you sell Chase for all of those names?
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Read the names again. I mean it's probably.
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It was guys like Devon H&CD Lamb, Justin Jefferson, Garrett Wilson, James Cook, Drake London, obviously Jackson, Smith and Jigba. I think that's an easy one.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I think Saquon, who's not been great.
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Not Saquon now because. Or I think no, I would trade Chase for Saquon because he's playing the Giants twice over the next three weeks. If he's ever gonna have any good games, it's gonna. I was, I was listing Saquon. I was like, oh, this guy is like a cell. His efficiency has been terrible series like a bottom five pff graded rusher. And then I look up, oh, he's playing the Giants this week and he's playing the Giants in two weeks.
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He. He is he he. It was estimated as it did not. They're playing on Thursday, but he was listed as a non participant in the estimated practice report on Monday of this week. For what it's worth, make sure you.
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Add Will Shipley just Justin. Yes.
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So yeah, Drake London though while we're selling Jamar Chase, Drake London seems like a strong buy. You can use the trade analyzer@fantasypros.com MyPlaybook or on the Fantasy Pros app to instantly evaluate how any trade will affect your team for this week, the rest of the season, or even in Dynasty. So we already got to Jamar Chase here and Erickson, give me your second wide receiver to sell.
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I mentioned him I think a couple weeks ago. I think after week three on the trade show with the receivers and it's Keenan Allen, wide receiver for the Los Angeles Chargers. The Chargers continue to lose offensive linemen to injuries. I think that that has hurt the offense significantly over the last two weeks. If you look at those have been Keenan Allen's worst games because he hasn't scored any touchdowns. And now that's not to say that Keenan Allen isn't involved in the red zone anymore. Like he still had two red zone targets last week. He just didn't score a lot of McConkey's the guy that ended up scoring the touchdown. But when I'm looking at players that fall off after hot starts, usually they're older wide receivers and it's because there's up and coming guys behind them. Quentin Johnson is is fully here, like he's here to stay. I don't envision his role changing much. And Labakonki we know has been disappointing to start the year. He did catch touchdown this past week and I think that eventually he starts to get going just a little bit. Maybe it comes at the expense of a Keenan Allen type of injury, but that's been the case with Keenan. He's 33 years old and he's never played. He hasn't played a full season over the last three years. So keen Allen has missed games. The offensive line is a concern for me and I still think that Allen what he's done to start the year seeing a ton of targets, catching a lot of touchdowns to open the year, I think that you can still get a lot for him. And to talk about a guy that I'd rather have who is also another older receiver but has had two really good games the last two weeks for Allen, production has fallen off just a little bit. Stefan Diggs so rest I'd rather have Diggs than Keenan Allen. I don't know if that's Something that.
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No, I agree with that. But I, I agree. I'd rather have Diggs than Allen.
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Yeah, that's a trade that I think you can probably do too because Keenan Allen still the last two weeks, yes it's been down but it's mostly because he hasn't scored any touchdowns. Still had nine targets last week, 58 yards which were both leaving the team. But if I'm making a bet on one of these Chargers receivers kind of falling off and maybe Lab McConkey kind of getting back up to speed, I would probably bet against Keenan Allen just as an older receiver versus someone like Quinn Johnson who's breaking out and Ladd who was so good as a rookie, obviously hasn't been that case this year. But Keenan Allen to me would be a sell.
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I agree with you on, on the digs part of that. I want to save my thoughts on Alan because I have him included in one of our buy seller holds later that I'm excited to see what you say but, but I did want to ask just because you mentioned like the offensive line injury stuff like are you knocking Justin Herbert down your rest of season rankings at all? He's not in our quarterback segment so we're not going to talk about him, you know, besides that. But like just seeing the offensive line, I, I, Herbert looks like a different player this year. Like he looks like an mvp, but at a certain point the offensive line is bad enough. It just doesn't matter. What are you doing with Herbert rest of season?
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Yeah, it sucks because he after week one I think that we talked about, you gotta buy Justin Herbert. This is awesome. We're so excited for him. And then the opposite line just crumbles. It, it just one of these cluster injuries really hurt teams.
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Yeah. He was QB5 in rest of season rankings a week ago. He's now QB10. So his ranking has cratered by the way.
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Yeah, and I don't disagree with him moving down the ranks just because it's just hard to overcome all of these injuries now you don't have a run game anymore. Hampton's out for the next couple weeks, placed on injured reserve. There's a reason why the Chargers went out and got Naji Harris and Omarion Hampton because they were. Because they didn't like Hassan Haskins and Kamani Vidal and those are the two starting running backs that are left on their roster. So if they become one more one, they become more one dimensional. Maybe that means oh, more passing attempts for Justin Herbert legend Herbert Cook. Maybe. Or it just means too many drop Backs, more mistakes behind a bad offensive line. Yeah, that is concerning for me. And I think that right now, if you made me pick between Justin Herbert and someone Drake May. I think I might go with Drake May.
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I. I think it's May easy, honestly, at this point. Yeah. I mean, to me, I'd be more like Herbert or like Dak Herbert or Caleb. Those are the names that he's around. Like, I. I think Drake, Drake May is kind of elevated above them in terms of fantasy, at least. Yeah, those would be the names. Baker Mayfield, maybe like that. Yeah. That's kind of the range Herbert's playing in right now and might be the worst option of those just because of the O line. Let's go to the quarterback segment. We kind of loop quarterbacks to tight ends together here. So give me one buy at either position.
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Yeah. So it's going to be Drake May for me. He's going to be the buy for me. Just talked about him a little bit over Justin Herbert and I think that it's kind of funny that after this big win against the Buffalo Bills, you're thinking, man, Drake May, three touchdowns. They're in the passing yard. Just this. He's actually. His box score actually wasn't good. Like, he actually did not have any touchdowns because Ramandra Stevenson, of course, has to score the two rushing touchdowns after fumbling the ball. I want to buy low on Drake May because the on field, he look, he's checking off the eye test of the next superstar quarterback. That's the guy I want to buy. And if there are managers that are just looking at the box score and he underwhelmed and Drake May actually hurt me in a couple spots where I needed a big game from him and I actually ended up losing my matchup because he didn't score enough points. It's okay, Drake May. We'll get him next time. We're going to get him next week. And I think that he is the quarterback that you want to buy, especially with the Patriots schedule rest of season, one of the easiest schedules that you have across the NFL. So by Drake May, if you smoke or dip, I'm going to give you a few good reasons to try Zinn Zyn nicotine pouches. First, it's America's number one nicotine pouch brand, and Zyn offers a robust rewards program. There's a lot of options for nicotine satisfaction, but there's only one Zyn. So if you go to zyn.com find that's z y n.com find to find Zen at A store near you. This product does contain nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.
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I don't think I have the cojones to do this, but I could be convinced I would rank Drake May higher than Lamar Jackson rest of season. Obviously, like strictly talking in your redraft league, I would rather have Drake May as my fantasy quarterback than Lamar Jackson for the rest of 2025. Again, hamstring injuries are no joke. I don't know what they're and I thought Lamar looked kind of slow even before he got hurt. Honestly, I was talking texting about it with a lot of my Ravens fan friends. Like does Lamar look slower to you? I I mean I'm very worried about what Lamar will look like for fantasy if and when he does. I mean he will come back, but like how ready he'll be when he comes back and how much he's going to run, especially if it ends up being a lost season for the franchise. Like I would just rather have Drake, honestly, I think I'd rather have Drake man than Jaden Daniels in fantasy rest of season two. I mean Jane Daniels has three games this season, right? Cause he missed a couple. He has not finished as a QB1 this year. He's QB13, QB16, QB17 Drake May, you know, he said, you know two more chances to finish higher but he's been a top eight quarterback three times. So I like I just think the ceiling's higher for me. I think the floor might be higher for him than for Lamar and Daniels strictly because of, you know, knee brace and hamstring injury and just that stuff can lower the floor. Like I Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts are the only two quarterbacks I would rather have for the rest of 2025 in fantasy than Drake. May I I he would be my QB3 rest of season genuinely.
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And I think too if you are looking to make that type of move. So getting off Lamar, getting off Jaden Daniels, you probably don't have to even do it straight up. You can probably do those quarterbacks with Drake Fay plus something actually useful where I think that's a trade that actually gets done. So not only are you getting the in your opinion the quarterback you like more, if you don't agree with that, you can at least get something else thrown into the deal like some of the other guys we've talked about as potential buys and I think that's a really sharp move to me. I know I got Daniels in a league that he was my keeper so it was one of the leagues where I didn't draft Drake May because I already had Jaden Daniels. But this week I'm going to be knocking on the door of the Drake May manage be like, hey, like, let's make a deal for you, Daniels give you Drake May plus and we'll see what we'll see.
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To be clear, I'm not saying trade Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels just to get rid of him no matter what, but I, I just think genuinely, Drake May's ceiling is higher for this season given the injury stuff. And I also was expecting regression from Jaden Daniels anyway to, to a degree. Like, you know, I don't know how much the knee race stuff is going to affect him this season. Lamar is the one who, injury wise, I'm. It's more injury related than I'm concerned.
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I will say with, with Daniels, I think that not having Terry has probably hurt him a little bit too.
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Sure.
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Terry has 100 and I mean, I don't know when that's going to happen. And I, I just have this bad feeling too, like when Terry McLaren gets back to 100, like, we're gonna see Debo miss game. So he's never gonna actually have like both guys on the field at the same time because, like, that's basically Devo Samuels.
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But I want to be clear, like, what I'm saying is about loving Drake May. It's not about hating Jane Daniels. I want to make that clear.
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That's. That's. There we go. The editors. That's the. That's the show.
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Yeah. Worm hates. Yeah. All right, give me your cell here. Quarterback or tight end?
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Darren Waller. That's the guy I'm going to be selling here because I've been down this road before with Darren Waller where when he's healthy, catching touchdowns, everything's great, everything's fine. I just don't think this will necessarily last all the year. He missed almost all of the off season after coming back out of retirement. I know he's looked good the last couple weeks. He's got a lot of touchdowns. I believe he has three touchdowns over the last two games. And I think that if you picked him up and you are a tight end needy, I think that he's just worth holding on to. If you had an injury at tight end, you had Brock Bowers. But in a situation I think a lot of people are in, especially if they follow the show throughout the off season. Well, you picked up Darren Waller this week because you had Tucker Kraft on a bye week. What I want to do now is flip Darren Waller because I know that he has a potential, a knack of getting banged up, especially an older tight end like Darren Waller. I want to flip him to the Brock Bowers manager. That's what I want to do because he might be an extra piece I have. I think you could get a decent return for him because he's delivered so highly over the last two weeks. But like I said, I've been down this road before. It's never been about ability with Darren Waller. It's about an about availability with Darren Waller and I know he's been okay the last two weeks. I would not bet on him being around the Miami Dolphins a month from now. I just. That has not ever been the case with Darren Waller. So I would take advantage. I would sell high. Especially if you have someone else on your roster like a Tucker Craft. I know that's the situation. I'm in a lot of leagues where I have Tuck Craft on a bye week. I picked up Darren Waller, started him this past week and I'm going to be going to the Brock Bowers manager. Brock Bowers looks like he's going to miss a decent amount of time week to week according to Pete Carroll. So that's the move I would make on trying to sell high on Darren Waller.
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I'm going to mix up the order of our buy seller holds. We usually end with tight end. I'm going to do the tight end first and ask you if you I want you to compare Darren Waller to these three. So the buy seller hold which I want you to, you know, make the picks with this trio and then I'll kind of loop in Waller, David and Joku, Travis Kelsey, TJ Hawkinson and buy, sell or hold Njoku, Kelsey or Hawkinson.
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B
So I want to sell Travis Kelce because Rashi Rice is going to be coming back and I think that's going to hurt his production substantially. He's had opportunities to really be the number one pass catcher for the Chiefs with all the injuries they've had and I think that he's kind of just been underwhelming for the most part. Yes, he's caught a couple touchdowns here and there, but I think that he's way past his prime so I'll be trying to sell high after he scored on Monday Night Football. David and Joker I think has to be a. I guess he would probably be the buy for me just because I just don't have a lot of faith in Hawkinson either with you have a new quarterback coming back. He did nothing with JJ McCarthy so I'm not optimistic about Hawkinson necessarily, but I guess he would probably be the hold because, you know, maybe things change after their bye week. They get Hawkinson more involved In Joku. I was pleased to see what he did with Dylan Gabriel as the quarterback. I don't think that's nothing that he has his best game when they have a new quarterback under center. And something that I always remember within Joko is he's very, very streaky with certain players. Like he'll go on streaks where he's just like toasting guys being really, really productive for five or six weeks. And I feel like it's always accompanied by a quarterback change where, oh, Joe Flacco steps in and David Joku is the tight end one for four weeks or James Winston steps in and then you see In Joku be a really productive tight end. So maybe Dylan Gabriel is kind of the thing that unlocks In Joku. I think that he's the most talented guy out of these three tight ends that we talked about and if he ends up getting dealt with, maybe that's another reason why you'd want In Joku on your team if they decide to go forward with Harold Fannin as their tight end one I think In Joku has probably the most upside of these three from a talent perspective and I just like what I saw from him. With Dylan Gabriel as the Brown starting quarterback.
- [29:45]
A
Where would Waller fit into this group of three for you?
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B
I think he'd probably be, I think probably last. I. I'm just not optimistic that he's going to be around the whole season like that. Like that's my main concern, that he's going to fizzle out. And again, not even because he is not productive when he's playing. Just he's a really older tight end and he's always banged up. So that's my concern.
- [30:13]
A
Let's do the wide receiver trios here. First one, Ameka Egbuca, Devonte Adams, A.J. brown. So these guys are all ranked inside the top 15. I think it is in the wide receiver rest of season rankings. Let me double check that, make sure I have it right. Yeah. AJ Brown's 14, Devonte Adams is 12, Auca is 10. But again, this is not a ranking. This is buy, sell or hold. So again a Booka, Devonte and Brown. What are you doing?
- [30:38]
B
Mecca Igbuka is got to be one of the most confusing receivers to try to evaluate. I think you just have to hold him because I get the arguments for selling or buying Egbuka where you're selling him because, well, Beck Evans is going to come back and he's not going to be able to sustain what he's been doing. I get that argument, but Egbuka might just be so good that it doesn't matter, which is why I can't justify trading him away, even though I get the process behind the play, if that makes sense. Worm so that's the reason I don't feel like I want to get rid of him. So he would probably be the guy I would hold Let, let me give.
- [31:19]
A
You a note on Igbuka. Ryan Heath from Fantasy Points tweeted this out earlier today. Basically just showing some of his metrics through five games compared to some of the other like great, you know, full rookie seasons that we've seen. He leads all rookies in receiving yards per game and he's behind only Puka in yards per out run. He has a higher target share than Jamar Chase, similar overall volume and a better first down rate and fantasy points per route run rate than Jamar Chase, Amara St. Brown and Jalen Waddle. So those are just some of the points that he highlighted. There's a whole chart. You can look at all of them on his, on his X account, Twitter account. But the point is that like it is holding up with like the names on this list are like Puka Chase neighbors, you know, lad McConkey. Like those are the names that some of the great rookie seasons we've had in recent years that Iguka is basically like living up to.
- [32:12]
B
Yeah, those are the reasons why I'm afraid to quote unquote sell high on him because he might just be that good and it doesn't matter. And let's not pretend like Godwin and Mike Evans. Yes, those guys are great players but they are a little bit older that get banged up. Mike Goblin's coming off an injury. Mike Evans has already had his hamstring injury. So I also have a feeling in the back of my mind that when Mike Evans comes back, Chris Godwin gets gets re injured and then we never actually end up seeing all three guys play at the same time. So it actually doesn't matter. So just keep the guy that's a rookie who's producing at like an all pro level. I think that's just like what I want to do. So I'm going to keep Egg Buka. AJ Brown I guess is technically the if you're going by like process he's the buy low because you just always buy a low on the receiver after they face the Denver Broncos because they always put up bad stat lines in those situations and then they always do really well at the next week a lot. Jamar Chase last week so from a process play, maybe it's not a buy as and go trade for A.J. brown because he can be a headache but buy low on his player props taking the overs on things like that. Maybe that's like the buy in this situation and then Devonte Adams would probably be the sell high. I think that after five weeks we've probably all forgotten about Matthew Stafford. Potential back injury. I think that's still a possibility. Like there's still a chance that that happens. But now that we've seen five weeks of Rams football and Matthew Stafford stay healthy, I don't think anyone is nearly as concerned about that. And maybe we were overblowing it, maybe it never really was a concern. But I feel very confident in saying that if Stafford were to go down, Adams would be impacted the most. I think Puka would be fine because he's got so many schemed up touches, but Adams goes head to head every single week against the defense's number one cornerback. He's not getting as many favorable looks as Puka Nakua is. So if one guy were to kind of fall out of favor here, it would probably be Adams and I probably think that he could probably. You can probably get the most. Well, you probably get maybe a little bit more for AG Buca, but I think you can get a solid return for Devonte Adams, who is still the number two receiver on his team.
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A
Buy, sell or hold lad McConkey, Keenan.
- [34:12]
B
Allen, Quentin Johnston, the Chargers trio, the holy trifecta.
- [34:19]
A
Remember, this is not a ranking. It's buy, sell or hold. Who are you buying? Who are you selling? Who are you holding? You've already said Keenan Allen's your sell. I assume you're going to stick with that.
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B
Yes, I'm going to stick with selling Keenan Allen. Am I ready to buy Quentin Johnston is is the main question here. I I remember looking at the Week 5 ECR ranking, seeing Quentin Johnson ahead of Jamar Chase. I don't know. Something did not settle with me when I saw that type of ranking. Luckily, Chase did outscore Quinn Johnson last week, so all was right in the world. But will that happen two weeks in a row? I'm not so confident. So man, this one is tough because I think Ladd really needs an injury to Allen to kind of get back to his level. We saw Ladd be really productive with Quentin Johnston last year. Now Johnson wasn't playing nearly as well last year as he was this year, but he still was playing better than his rookie year. So we've seen Ladd thrive, at least when it's only been Johnston. So I think right now, if all three guys are out there, I think Johnson's probably the guy you want to buy. So if you could flip Lad for Johnson, I think that's probably the move I would make. I just don't think his production is going to fall off regardless of the other Chargers receivers. And then Ladd would be the hold for me. I think he has a lot of upside, but it depends on whether one of these guys gets hurt or otherwise. He's a wide receiver. 3. I mean, last week was supposed to be Lad week, and he scored a touchdown and that was basically it. Like. Like, it's one of those, like, lad McCaughey scores usually. You're like, yes, right. He had a breakout game. Not really.
- [35:54]
A
Like, you should have had the punt return touchdown, too.
- [35:56]
B
Yes, I know. Of course, that was just like the salt in the wound. So you just gotta catch a break.
- [36:01]
A
I'm still buying. I'm buying Lad, holding Johnston and selling. Selling.
- [36:05]
B
I'm trying to not be a prisoner of. I don't know, because I guess. And I was not big on Quinn Johnson, so I'm trying to not be. I'm trying to accept that he is not as bad as I thought that he once was. And he is a good receiver.
- [36:19]
A
But. But I think you, like. I think you're buying Lad on the cheap. Whereas, like, buying Quentin Johnson, I know he's not coming off of his best game. Like, there are. The Quentin Johnson manager is probably, like, really excited that they got him late and he's been awesome and they're going to want a lot for him. So again, it's not a ranking necessarily, but, like, I would rather have lat. And also, like you said, he needs an injury. Like, Keenan Allen is older. Like, we're not hoping he gets hurt, obviously, but, like, that's very much on the table that. That could happen too. So, yeah, I'm buying Lad and holding Johnson and selling Allen.
- [36:53]
B
I might. You might. You may have convinced me. I'm again, I just was so low on Quinn Johnson. I mean, I was pumping up Keandre Lambert Smith to be. To be a guy in this offense. Like, I had no. I had no hope for Johnson doing anything. And that was obviously.
- [37:07]
A
I mean, I didn't either. So I can't hold him because I don't have him anywhere. All right, last one. Quarterback trio. We'll go quickly here because we've gone pretty long. Sam Darnold, C.J. stroud, Jackson Dart again, Darnold, Stroud and Dart buy, sell and hold.
- [37:21]
B
I think you need to sell CJ Stroud. This may be his best game.
- [37:25]
A
So you, you think that was a Ravens defense, not Texans. Figuring it out, are you? Do you just want to sell the quarterback who's coming off facing the Ravens every week?
- [37:36]
B
You probably do. That's probably the right process to make. I looked at the Raven or not the Raven schedule, the Texan schedule. They have the most difficult schedule rest of season for quarterbacks for fantasy purposes. So if you can convince someone that Stroud is back and they're all back and everything's fixed, I think that's probably the move to make. He's on a bye week, so it's a tough move to make. But maybe in Super Flex formats, you can kind of maybe put Stroud together in a package and probably move him. That's the move that I would make. I think I would want to by Jackson Dart. I think just because he's a mobile quarterback, like, that's what I want to invest into is quarterbacks that run, especially someone like a rookie. It sucks that he doesn't league neighbors, which I think is the reason why I don't think this is a slam dunk of a buy. But I want to chase the guys that run. So Jackson Dart kind of checks off the box there and Sam Darnold would be the hole for me. I think he's just been really steady. Him and JSN are clicking on all cylinders. The offensive line for Seattle has played a lot better, and he showed against Tampa Bay that, hey, in good matchups he can deliver strong performances. So I would hold on to Sam Darold, who was again, probably still available on like waiver wires. So if he has good matchups, he's definitely a streamable quarterback that you can use.
- [38:47]
A
Yeah, I thought this was an interesting one because I felt like Stroud and Darnold were both like reasonable cases to sell, but I didn't know if you would want to buy Dart just given like the, you know, bleak neighbor stuff, you know, he limited in practice report this week. Like, it, it, it feels like a weird buy, but the mobility is probably enough to make him, you know, the choice.
- [39:06]
B
We see guys that have bad matchups all the time. It just takes one 40 yard rushing touchdown and then they just saved it. They, they, they saved everything. It's like you can give me all the analysis you want about fading Justin Fields one week and then he just rips off one long touchdown and then none of it matters anymore. So.
- [39:21]
A
All right, we'll go ahead and wrap things up there. If you missed part one, be sure to check it out on YouTube and wherever you get your audio. For Erickson, I'm Ryan Warmley. Thanks everybody for tuning in. We'll see you again next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast. If you love the show, the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on apple podcasts@fantasypros.com review or on Spotify. Follow us on X Instagram and TikTok Antasypros and subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube.com fantasypros.
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