Week 8 Buy Low + Sell High Wide Receiver Targets (Ep. 1789)

Summary

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Episode: Week 8 Buy Low + Sell High Wide Receiver Targets (Ep. 1789)

Date: October 22, 2025
Hosts: Ryan Wormley, Andrew Erickson

Overview

This episode dives deep into Week 8’s top buy low and sell high wide receiver targets, plus quick-hitting advice on quarterbacks and tight ends. Ryan Wormley and Andrew Erickson leverage stats, game analysis, and real-life team context to help listeners identify undervalued and overvalued fantasy assets as trade deadlines approach. The show maintains an engaging, analytical tone with plenty of banter and actionable trade strategies.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Top Wide Receiver Buy Lows

Stefon Diggs (New England Patriots)

• Why Buy: Diggs has elite efficiency and volume with a high target share (over 30% last three games, 7th per PFF), but has yet to find the end zone this season—he is a glaring candidate for positive TD regression.
• Set-up: Drake May has been prolific, but his touchdowns have gone to supporting receivers via big plays, not Diggs.
• Red Zone Trends: Patriots may be forced to throw more—especially in tough run defense matchups like the Browns.
• Schedule Outlook: Good matchups coming late-season, notably Buffalo (week 15), where Diggs previously posted 146 yards.
• Rankings Talk:
  • Wormley [05:39]: “24 feels too low... I think you can make a very compelling argument for every name I just read that Diggs should be higher.”
  • Erickson [05:59]: “I got Brian Thomas Jr. I’m sending him to get Stefan Diggs... that’s what I would do.”
• Verdict: Strongest buy of the week for both hosts.

Rome Odunze (Chicago Bears)

• Why Buy: Quiet recent weeks hide the underlying role. Still leads the team in targets (23% share) and air yards, runs route on 100% of dropbacks, and has huge upside rest of season, especially as tougher matchups force the Bears to pass.
• Usage Metrics: Top 15 in expected fantasy points per game.
• Schedule Note: Bears have tough playoff schedule for RBs—could benefit WRs in passing scripts.
• Consensus Rank Concern:
  • Wormley [13:41]: “11 is too high... he’s only been a WR1 once this year. But I do agree he’s a buy low.”
• Alpha Role: Clear WR1 in the Bears’ offense.
• Summary: Buy low more on upside than redraft floor.

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2. Wide Receiver Sell Highs

Jordan Addison (Minnesota Vikings)

• Context: He's excelled with Carson Wentz (top 8 fantasy WR ppg last three weeks), but Wentz likely replaced by rookie J.J. McCarthy soon.
• Key Issue: Rookie QBs rarely support two strong WRs; Jefferson is the clear alpha.
• Trade Strategy:
  • Erickson [22:18]: “Could you get Diggs or no? Could you get McMillan?... I’d trade Addison plus for McMillan.”
  • **Consider packaging as part of a trade up, not for another WR straight up unless target is clear upgrade.
• Redraft vs Depth: Addison likely a depth piece—use to fill needs at RB (“flip him for Chase Brown if you’re desperate”).

Brian Thomas Jr. (Jacksonville Jaguars)

• Why Sell: Consistently underperforming—production hampered by injuries, drops, lack of chemistry with Trevor Lawrence (“Doesn’t look 100% healthy...[27:41]). Heavy fantasy playoff schedule: Jets and Broncos—two shutdown defenses.
• Recent Output: 3 for 31 on 8 targets, more drops, trending downward.
• Dynasty Angle: If pairing with Trevor Lawrence is broken (similar to “Kyler Murray–Marvin Harrison Jr. vibes”), consider moving him there too.
• Strategy [28:22]: “If he’s not going to help you win your fantasy championship, sayonara.”
• Erickson [30:25]: “Laundry list of reasons why you should be off Brian Thomas Jr.”

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3. Other Notable WR Trade Strategies

• Garrett Wilson (NYJ): Question marks due to injury, QB instability, garbage-time production.
  • Erickson [08:27]: Lean Diggs over Wilson for stability (“I just feel confident in Diggs”).
  • Wormley [09:24]: Notes Wilson’s production better in box scores than on the field.
• Package Approach: Don’t sell Addison or Thomas Jr. alone—look for creative 2-for-1s to consolidate value into more reliable starters.

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4. Rapid Wide Receiver Buy/Sell/Hold

DK Metcalf, Lad McConkey, Zay Flowers (Buy/Sell/Hold segment)

• Metcalf: Hold. Elite target share, strong schedule, clear alpha.
• McConkey: Buy aggressively (potential for huge second half breakout, checks all “JSN breakout” boxes per Erickson [41:35]).
• Flowers: Sell (“If you can get Metcalf or McConkey for Zay, do it.”—Wormley [42:50]).

Marvin Harrison Jr., Terry McLaurin, T. Higgins

• Higgins: Hold, ride high weekly ceiling (especially if Burrow returns).
• Harrison Jr.: Sell—lack of chemistry with Kyler, QB instability.
• McLaurin: Buy low stash; could be a league-winner if Daniels returns and McLaurin is healthy.

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5. Quarterback Buy/Sell/Hold

Bo Nix, Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford, Jackson Dart

• Jackson Dart: Buy (dual-threat, hot streak, excels despite bad WR corps).
• Goff/Stafford: Hold both, lean Stafford if you must sell one (more consistent, underrated).
• Bo Nix: Sell high after career game (“It was all fourth quarter driven, the ups and downs with him”—Erickson [47:39]).

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6. Tight End Buy/Sell/Hold

George Kittle (Buy)

• Week 7 dud not worrying: Expect strong bounce back—positive regression, “National Tight End Day” narrative, favorable matchup ahead.
• Wormley [35:06]: “If there is one guy who’s going to have a big day on National Tight End Day, it’s George Kittle.”

Travis Kelce (Sell)

• Rashee Rice Alpha Now: In games with Rice, Kittle outperformed Kelce; Kelce finishes: TE20, TE14, TE46, TE19 in those.
• Erickson [36:58]: “If you can flip Kelce for Kittle, do it in a heartbeat.”
• Touchdown-or-bust profile emerging.

Dallas Goedert, Dalton Kincaid, Irande Gadsden II

• Kincaid: Buy (high usage when healthy, no other Bills WR stepping up).
• Gadsden: Hold (worth a speculative add, rookie TEs rarely break out but situation is prime; could also be a sell high if trade market is hot).
• Goedert: Sell (profile is back-end TE1, low ceiling).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Stefon Diggs’ Lack of TDs:
  • Erickson [01:44]: “He’s overdue for major positive touchdown regression and that’s attached to a supernova quarterback. … Eventually things are going to break in favor of the veteran.”
• On Addison’s Value:
  • Wormley [22:18]: “Rookie quarterbacks almost never support two like high level fantasy pass catchers. … By all that accounting, it makes a lot of sense to say maybe sell Addison.”
• On Brian Thomas Jr.:
  • Erickson [28:22]: “If he’s not going to help you win your fantasy championship, then I’m sorry, sayonara.”
• On tight end strategies:
  • Erickson [33:10]: “Next week is National Tight End Day. Do you think that George Kittle is going to be held down without a catch on National Tight End Day? I think not.”
• On Zay Flowers (as a sell):
  • Wormley [42:50]: “If you can get those types of players for Zay, like, I would do that... I think selling Zay on the idea of Lamar coming back is very smart right now.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Stefon Diggs Buy Low Deep Dive: [01:44]–[06:45]
• Garrett Wilson vs. Diggs Discussion: [07:47]–[11:21]
• Rome Odunze Upside Case: [11:41]–[16:38]
• WR Rest-of-Season Ranks Debate: [16:38]–[17:51]
• WR Sell High - Jordan Addison: [17:51]–[23:09]
• Packaging Trades & RB Moves: [23:09]–[26:13]
• Brian Thomas Jr. Sell Low: [26:45]–[30:25]
• Dynasty Angle on Thomas Jr.: [30:25]–[32:44]
• Rapid Buy/Sell/Hold (McConkey/Metcalf/Flowers): [39:39]–[42:50]
• QB Buy/Sell/Hold (Nix/Dart/etc.): [47:17]–[49:39]
• TE Buy/Sell/Hold (Kittle/Kelce/etc.): [33:10]–[39:39], [51:25]–[55:17]

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Tone & Final Takeaways

• The hosts balance data-driven analysis with candid, often self-deprecating insights (Erickson’s “I am not the backup quarterback whisperer” at [11:12]).
• There’s emphasis on thinking two steps ahead—packaging trades, anticipating role/usage shifts, and exploiting fantasy playoff schedules.
• Buyer beware on overvalued “name” players (Thomas Jr., Addison, Zay Flowers).
• Aggressively target overlooked, volume-heavy breakouts (Diggs, Odunze, McConkey).

Overall: This episode arms listeners with shrewd redraft and dynasty WR/TE/QB trade strategies as deadlines approach, delivered with statistical depth, banter, and real-time trade hypotheticals.

Transcript

[Ryan Wormley]

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[Ryan Wormley]

Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football podcast. I'm Ryan Wormley, joined as I am every Tuesday by Andrew Erickson to talk some wide receiver buys and sells with a little bit of quarterbacks and tight ends as well. If you missed part one of this episode, which was the running backs focus segment, also we talked a little bit about Monday Night Football, recapping that double header in that segment as well. You can check that out on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts on audio. This is our Wide receiver buys and sells like I said, plus some quarterbacks and tight ends. I do want to let everybody know that if you want a chance to win the crown jewel of any fantasy football league, the perpetual fantasy football trophy, courtesy of our good friends at Trophy Smack, the number one destination for epic fantasy football hardware, then this is your shot. This gorgeous black trophy comes with a perpetual base so you can engrave your league champion year after year. It's not just a prize, it's a legacy piece. To enter, all you need to do is subscribe to The Fantasy Pros YouTube channel right now and drop a comment below on any of our videos. That is it. We will be announcing a winner right here on the channel, so be sure to turn on notifications so you don't miss your chance to claim your prize. Erickson, who is your first wide receiver.

[Andrew Erickson]

To buy playing the hits same guys last week? Because I think he's the right answer. Stefan Diggs, wide receiver for the New England Patriots. Super efficient again last week. 77 catches, 7 targets for 69 yards, 29 target share. But yet again, Svon Diggs did not score a touchdown. Basically, if you check off every receiving metric in terms of targets, yards, receptions, Diggs is near the top of the list. And he's the one guy that doesn't have a touchdown yet. So he's over a 30 target share over his last three games, which ranks top five. He's PFF's number seven ranked wide receiver. He's been hyper efficient this season he's overdue for major positive touchdown regression and that's attached to a supernova quarterback. Drake May, who is throwing for nearly two passing touchdowns every single week, just happens to not be going to Stefan Diggs. So eventually things are going to break in favor of the veteran wide receiver in my opinion. So I think that he is a one of the best buys you can get at the wide receiver position.

[Ryan Wormley]

He is 12th in receiving yards in the NFL this season. He's the only player inside the top at least 25 who I'm looking. This is only going on 25 long. Let me look, looking, let me see the next highest person who doesn't have a touchdown. The next highest is 29th. Kendrick Bourne does not have a touchdown. Everybody else has had the top 28 and receiving yards this season has at least one touchdown and only one player ahead of Diggs in the receiving areas leaderboard right now has just one touchdown. Ironically, it's Justin Jefferson. Everybody else has multiple that's ahead of him in receiving yards and several spots behind him in receiving yards as well. So my point is that you are right. He stands out as an outlier. You obviously watch the Patriots very closely. Erickson. Do you feel like the usage in the red zone has been a problem or like, like because sometimes you see like Trey McBride last year you would see times where they were trying to get in the ball and the connection just wasn't working. Do you feel like that's been the case with Diggs or do you feel like they haven't even really tried to get him a touchdown?

[Andrew Erickson]

I think they've tried in past weeks. I know against the Bills they were really trying to obviously get him in the end zone. Against his former team last week that wasn't really the case. But I think that they still trust Drake May a lot in the red zone. So I think they're more likely to drop back and throw than necessarily trust some of the running backs to take them in for carries. Again, talking about this week against the Cleveland Browns, we mentioned Ramandre Stevenson on the running back show as I sell Browns are really, really good run defense, so I think they're easier attacked through the air, which is why I think that when the Patriots get into scoring, it's going to be more throwing the ball and not running the ball, which is where Stefan Diggs comes in. I just think that he's just been delivering on every time he's gotten targets, he's catching the ball. He's one of the highest catch rates in the NFL. His yards per out run should be above 3. If he doesn't have that 51 yard catch against the Saints, roll back. And remember, a lot of Drake Mays touchdowns have been actually outside the red zone. So they actually haven't been able to get down to the red zone because it's been bomb shots demario Douglas, Mack Hollins or k' Shawn Booty. So eventually they won't always have to be able to rely on these big plays for touchdowns. And we'll be like, hey, let's drive down the field, get in the red zone and then convert for a touchdown. I think Diggs will show up there.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, he gets, you know, later in the season. We've been talking a little bit on the running back episode, so just to highlight it here too. Later in the season, he gets matchups against Cincinnati, Baltimore, Buffalo, you know, some, some opportunities for, you know, some big game. Like the, that Buffalo game is, is week 15. The first one was when he had a season high in receiving yards, 146. Like there, there's some opportunities to take advantage of good matchups later in the year. Yeah, I, I like, I mean, so he's wide receiver 24 in the rest of season rankings. Is that's on too high, too low or just right?

[Andrew Erickson]

I mean, I think that's right where we were talking about him last week, right? I think you probably.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, I do think he was fine where he's gonna fit on the.

[Andrew Erickson]

Yeah, I was like top 20 and he was like top 24.

[Ryan Wormley]

I, I, I think 24 feels too low still. Like he's behind Quentin Johnston, DK Metcalf, Zay Flowers, Lad McConkey, Brian Thomas Jr. I think you at least make a case that he should be ahead of all those guys. I'm not sure I would rank him as high as 18th. Like, I don't know if I would actually make that move, but I think you can make a very compelling argument for every name I just read that digs Diggs should be higher.

[Andrew Erickson]

I know we'll talk about him later in the show, but I got Brian Thomas Jr. I'm sending him to get Stefan Diggs. That's, yeah, not, not. I, I'm not, I'm not happy about.

[Additional Analyst]

It, but I think that's, I think.

[Andrew Erickson]

That'S what I would do.

[Ryan Wormley]

Who do you like better rest of season because they're ranked back to back, Stefan Diggs or Chris Al?

[Andrew Erickson]

I just think that Diggs has the higher ceiling with Olave. You're just capped in the Saints offense more often than not with Spencer Rattler and Drake May is a talent elevator among wide receivers.

[Ryan Wormley]

So Olave scored more touchdowns than Diggs.

[Andrew Erickson]

This year so far.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah.

[Andrew Erickson]

So I would take digs.

[Ryan Wormley]

He's got three touchdown lead. I think, I think it's fair that they're close together. Do you disagree with that? Do you think Diggs is clear? Okay. Yeah.

[Andrew Erickson]

No, I think, I think it's close and I, I do think that even like a full, full ppr, Olave probably might even get the edge a little bit more.

[Ryan Wormley]

Do you agree with me with some of these names ahead of him? Like, I would rather have Diggs than say Flowers for sure. I. I'd probably rather have Diggs and Quentin Johnson may like DK Metcalf, lad McConkey. Like I feel like I want digs ahead of a lot of these guys.

[Andrew Erickson]

I think there are a handful of guys I, I would rather have I think over John Snack probably were there have Metcalf. I think I'm still going to take over digs. I have them actually ranked back to back in my rankings. I think Metcalf, he just has no target competition. It's tight ends. That's all that the Steelers use. There are no other wide receivers on the team. And when you're not facing the Bengals, it's so crazy. I think that the two games Rogers has thrown four touchdowns, Metcalf has not.

[Additional Analyst]

Caught a touchdown, which is such a bizarre stat where when Rogers goes off, Metcalf does nothing in those games.

[Andrew Erickson]

His schedule is also very good rest of season for the Steelers.

[Ryan Wormley]

Let me ask you this one more and then we'll move off Diggs. Would you. Because they, they are ranked as if you could easily get this trade done and in fact maybe get Diggs plus. Would you trade Garrett Wilson for Diggs plus because like Wilson not only obviously like he just missed this game with the injury stuff on the knee. You don't know how long that's going to linger. But Justin Fields like getting benched, looking terrible like that connection has not. It's not panned out to the degree that we thought maybe the ceiling could have been. He. Garrett Wilson has had some good finishes largely from getting in the end zone, but I think the passing game has looked worse lately. I. I just. It's a concern, I think with Garrett Wilson long term. So if you could trade him for Diggs plus another piece, would you do that?

[Andrew Erickson]

You're putting me in a very uncomfortable position here, Worm, because I've been looking back at my track record of any time I've evaluated wide receivers with backup quarterbacks and it's almost always wrong.

[Additional Analyst]

Like, like it's been so bad of I'm burying this guy, he's going to.

[Andrew Erickson]

Be terrible and then backup makes him amazing and then vice versa. So I kind of want to plead the fifth year because whatever I say is probably going to be wrong. I guess I would lean Diggs just because I am confident about his situation where I'm willing to throw my hands up a little bit more. With Garrett Wilson. One part of me thinks, well, Tyra Taylor, man, like they can finally throw the ball down the field. But I mean Garrett Wilson was fine with Justin Fields for most of the season. So is it actually good for him? So I don't know if you feel different. I just feel confident in Diggs where I think that there's enough question marks with Garrett Wilson. Even if I'm wrong, I feel like I'm going to be right about Diggs being a hit and that's why I would probably make the move.

[Ryan Wormley]

Do you feel and this is kind of a detour on Garrett Wilson de Like, I feel like in watching the games and thinking about Wilson's season, it hasn't been a, like I feel like it's been worse than, like the production has been better than. It actually feels like it's been. I think part of that is just because the jets, like there's such a stink around them. Obviously they're winless like, like. And Fields has had some really bad games. But then you look at the game log and it's like, well, he has four wide receiver one finishes this season and it's like they're the four weeks. He has a touchdown which obviously helps. And he doesn't have a hundred receiving yards in a game yet, but he's had at least 70 in four games with the touch. He's had 70 plus receiving yards and a touchdown four out of six games this season. Garrett Wilson has. So like I feel like he's been more productive than like the vibes around the jets passing game would suggest.

[Andrew Erickson]

I mean the vibes suggest that he's caught zero passes this year.

[Additional Analyst]

Yeah, but then you look at the box score like you said.

[Andrew Erickson]

I will say if we were able to tabulate the first three quarters of Garrett Wilson and get rid of the fourth quarter when the game is out of hand. Yeah, the numbers are going to look much more like the vibes very, very bad because a lot of it has been garbage time which we know isn't always sustainable even as a team as bad as the jets because sometimes you're going to run into defenses that decide not to let up at the end of the game. Like no, we're not just going to play off coverage and just let you rack up receptions and points. We're actually going to play defense all the way through and then you run into issues. So back to my original point. A lot of question marks with Wilson, the Jets in general. I think right now friends don't friend friends don't let friends buy Jets. I think it's probably a good a good strategy probably aside from Breece hall because he could get traded.

[Additional Analyst]

So like the one guy you want on the jets is because he might.

[Ryan Wormley]

Not be on the Jets.

[Additional Analyst]

Like, like that's the theory. If that's the theory of the strategy.

[Andrew Erickson]

Here, then that's why I do lean on Diggs. But to my original point, I'm not the backup quarterback whisperer in any way shape or form.

[Ryan Wormley]

Garrett Wilson, last note on him. For every game this season he has either been inside the top 12 or outside the top 60. There has been no finishes between 13 and wide receiver 59 and that's in half PPR scoring. All right, let's go to the next wide receiver to buy.

[Andrew Erickson]

Who do you have going with Roma Dunze for the Chicago Bears. So he has been quiet the last couple weeks. Coming after the Bears bye week, the Bears have obviously established a efficient running game which I think has kind of taken some of the luster out of the pass attack and that has hurt Odunze. Two weeks ago he had a touchdown but it was called back on a penalty so that kind of hurt him. This was just a general bad game for him. Just two catches for 31 yards but still had six targets which led the team 23 target share. Had almost half of the team's air yards at 44 and he ran a route on 100 of the team drop backs. So the Bears secondary had more injuries. I think that we're going to see this team be forced into more shootouts and I think that what we saw from Roman dunesday to start the year when it looked like oh my God, this guy is a second year breakout smash, why was I not drafting more Roma Dunes A I still think that is in his range of outcomes. So after two down weeks maybe he's lost a little bit of the shine that he had on the first couple weeks of the season. I want to take advantage of that because I want to believe in what I saw through the first month of the year when all he was was Gobbling up all the air yards, all the end zone targets scoring touchdowns. I still think he's the number one guy. DJ Moore has not impressed me this season with their burden. They're still have the training wheels on behind Alem Zakus Colson. Love them might get going now that Cole Komet is injured but Odunze is still top 15 and expected fantasy points per game. I think the schedule is pretty good rest of season. We talked about on the running back show with DeAndre Swift. The Bears have a tough playoff schedule for running backs so that means more passing, that means better games for Roma Dun in those types of game scripts where maybe they can't just sit on running the football against some more close closer opponents. So again they played the Saints last week as heavy home favorites. They're not going to be every single week just okay, we're going to run the football. 15 plus carries for both for both DeAndre Swift and column and Unguy. Eventually they're going to have to throw it out or throw air the ball out. I think that benefits Odunze.

[Ryan Wormley]

I find it really interesting that he's ranked amongst rest of season rankings as wide receiver 11 right now in the consensus rankings because that week two game against Detroit he finishes wide receiver four. He had 128 yards and two touchdowns. Obviously it was an excellent game. That would be wide receiver one in a lot of weeks outside of that his best finish this season like even in this kind of breakout first month is wide receiver 17. Like he has not been a wide receiver one in any week outside of week two because the yardage hasn't really been there. That's the only week he's gotten over 70 yards. He's really needed the touchdowns to be a big fantasy producer so far. So I feel like rank like I actually agree with you that this is a good buy low coming off two down games. Like he should have had a touchdown in this game that was called back on penalty or excuse me on the week before against Washington. Like there should be more scores in there. So I'm with you. I'm buying low. I do feel like wide receiver 11 is is ranked too high like that. That feels. That feels too aggressive to me given what we have seen so far this season. There's only been one week he has reached that threshold so far.

[Andrew Erickson]

I think it's about the upside case for him rest of season. I just don't think it's going to go away. What we saw for the first four weeks, I mean he's facing The Ravens this week. Right. And if Lamar Jackson plays, if it's more of a shootout game, are the.

[Ryan Wormley]

I'm really curious, I'm really curious what the Ravens defense is going to look like. Actually, everybody's been talking about Lamar coming back, like now that Roquan's back, like this is basically not a week is obviously still out for the season, but outside of Matabk, this is basically like the healthiest the defense has been since week one. And Lamar also, by the way, didn't practice on, on Monday, so we'll see what that looks like throughout the week. I'm not 100% sure that he's going to be a hundred percent back, but, but I'm really curious to see what the defense looks like. I'm not saying it will be good. I'm saying I'm curious to see what it looks like if it's going because like the stuff we saw against the Rams and the Texans and the Chiefs was just so different than what the defense was they expected to come out in the season with. So I, it would not shock me if the Bears have a big scoring day and the defense is just broken beyond repair for this year, but I want to keep an eye on it before I make a judgment on what the Ravens defense will look like in the second half of the year.

[Andrew Erickson]

Agreed. And I think that maybe plays into my hand where the Bears are going to have to throw more. Maybe they don't have as much rushing success that you suggesting getting, getting Roquan Smith back matters a lot for the interior of that defense. Maybe they just don't get curb stomped by the run. And I mean the Bears are underdogs on the road, which would suggest, hey, they're going to have to have more passing volume here. And look last week, again, 2 for 31. But he still led the team in targets, right. So he still had six targets with led the team with the 23 target share. So I still think he is the, I mean if you do disagree with me, like is he the clear alpha in this Bears passing attack? Do you, do you feel confident saying that Odunze is the alpha?

[Ryan Wormley]

Yes. Yes.

[Andrew Erickson]

Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah.

[Ryan Wormley]

So I, I, I'm not disagreeing on the take. I, I would buy low on Roma dun say wholeheartedly. I just think the ranking is a little aggressive in the consensus rankings. Like I like him or a Mecca Iguka I'd rather have Igbuka like now that Evans is out for a while. Like I would agree. Pickens A.J. brown Courtland Sutton. I think you at least make a case that he should be behind on all those guys.

[Andrew Erickson]

I think AJ Brown is very interesting because that's a question I was getting.

[Additional Analyst]

Like three weeks ago, like constantly. It was like, oh, dunes J.

[Andrew Erickson]

Brown.

[Additional Analyst]

And it was always dependent on, well, did A.J. brown have a good game or a bad game?

[Ryan Wormley]

I mean I I'd still, I would consider Tetaro McMillan versus Roma Dunes and they're seven spots apart in the rankings. They're Dunes wide receiver 11 Tet is wide receiver 18. Like I, I get it. I'm not saying that ranking is definitively wrong, but I, I could make a case for McMillan. I think like I, I, I again, I just think wide receiver 11 is too high. I think it should be more in the teens. But I, I strongly agree with him as a buy low. Roma Dun and Stefan Diggs seem like strong buys. You can use the trade [e-mail] my playbook or on the Fantasy Pros app to instantly evaluate how any trade will affect your team for this week, the rest of the season, or even in Dynasty Erickson. Let's get to a wide receiver to sell.

[Andrew Erickson]

All right, so talked about earlier how I'm not good with evaluating wide receivers with backup quarterbacks. So I'm looking at a receiver that's going to get his starter back and make him potentially a cell because he's performed at a high level with his backup quarterback. And that's Jordan Addison for the Minnesota Vikings. So he has been on absolute tear with Carson Wentz. He's eighth in fantasy points per game, which when I looked at the box score the last three weeks, I couldn't believe it. But Addison was one of the players I was definitely wrong about in season long drafts. The suspension kind of scared me off, but he's a very talented player. However, I do have concerns about what this Vikings offense turns into when they go back to J.J. mcCarthy, because I think that that's going to be the case because Wentz has been really good for these receivers overall. I mean both Jefferson and Addison now have only been like producing. I think it was like around 100 receiving yards per game, very close to that mark. But both guys are top seven in terms of fantasy expected fantasy points per game. So Carson Wentz has been low key, a wide receiver fantasy wagon, like putting these guys in positions to score a lot of points. And is that the case with J.J. mcCarthy, who essentially a rookie quarterback where we've seen him play one good quarter of football, he got injured, he missed a Lot of time. And I think that he's going to be the quarterback probably in week nine. So I'm trying to get ahead of it a little bit. And maybe this isn't a sell before the Thursday night game because. Because Addison will probably have wins for one more game. So maybe it's a week early type of trade or something you're trying to think about. Because I do want to get your thoughts on this worm because it's, it's a confusing situation because the Vikings want to win games, but Carson Wentz is not really doing that right. He's turning the ball over, he's taking sacks. Are they going to continue to go back to him as the quarterback even though he's helping these receivers put up numbers? But those numbers aren't helping them win games necessarily, which is obviously the Vikings main goal. So it's been really good. My main point is it's been really good with Wentz. Does that sustain with McCarthy as the starter in this offense from Week 9 onward? That's where I get concerned. And if it's going to hurt anybody, I think it would maybe hurt Addison as the wide receiver too compared to Jefferson, who is the alpha in this offense where maybe he stays, he maintains his production whereas Addison kind of falls off a little bit.

[Ryan Wormley]

Well, it's, I mean, it's really tricky because not that we've seen a lot of J.J. mcCarthy, but even the little bit we did see was when Addison was suspended.

[Additional Analyst]

So we have not seen like the sample size is literally zero.

[Ryan Wormley]

We literally. They have not been on the field together. So I, so yeah, it's, it's very hard to tell. I, I love Addison the player so much. You talked about this on the running back show a bit of like just go get good players. And I just think Addison is a good player. But at the same time I, I remember talking a lot about this when I was talking about the Bears receiving room going into last season, about how rookie quarterbacks almost never support to like high level fantasy pass catchers. It's very, very rare that you see that happen. And McCarthy like again, very small sample size just of him being on the field at all. No sample size with him. Having these two receivers in the field together didn't scream like, oh, this is the type of, you know, know essentially rookie quarterback who can support two high level pass catchers. And Justin Jefferson is going to get his right. There's no debate about that. So by all that accounting, it makes a lot of sense to say maybe sell Addison, maybe even try and do it after this upcoming week. See if you can get one more great week with. With Carson Wentz. At the same time, I think he's just a good player and I think he looks. And I don't know how much of this is Carson Wentz, you know, force feeding him the ball versus him taking a step. I think he looks better this year than he has, like, in his first two seasons. Like, I think Addison, like, looks to me like he maybe has taken a step. I mean, in three games, two of them, he has gone over 100 receiving yards. Like you said, you know, he. He's been very strong this year. Yeah, 114 receiving yards and then 128 into three games. And then the other one he had a touchdown in. And that was, you know, you know, at Cleveland, which is not an easy place to play. So I say all that to say, like, I really like the player and I think he has taken a step forward as a player this year, at least based on these first three games. But it's not going to matter if the quarterback can't get in the ball. So I guess what it really comes down to is price. Like, what do you think you would be getting in return for somebody like Addison?

[Andrew Erickson]

Could you get digs or no?

[Ryan Wormley]

I think it maybe depends on the manager. I actually don't think that's totally off the table.

[Andrew Erickson]

Could you get McMillan?

[Ryan Wormley]

I think that would be harder, but I would trade Addison plus for McMillan.

[Andrew Erickson]

Okay. What about Pittman?

[Ryan Wormley]

I think you could get Pittman.

[Andrew Erickson]

Okay. Okay.

[Ryan Wormley]

I'm. If you're. I think Pitman is more of a floor guy than a ceiling guy. He's been. He's been good this year and obviously the offense has been great this year. But like, he needs the touchdowns to sustain, to be productive. Whereas, like addison. Addison is two games over 100 receiving yards. Pittman has one game where he's even reached 80. So like, he need. Pittman needs the touchdowns.

[Andrew Erickson]

Yeah. To your point about how great Addison has been this year, I was. When I was looking at the expected panacea points just kind of get an idea of, oh, he's probably scoring above expectation. I know. I think the first game he came back against is Steelers, he had this monster long touchdown. But when you actually look at his points versus his expected points, it's. He's doing exactly what he should be doing. So it's not that he is overperforming in any way. To your point. He has been just balling out. However, the quarterback just kind of concerns me and maybe it doesn't concern enough managers, especially with me being so bad about backup quarterbacks. Well, they're putting the starter back in, so maybe this is where I'll be right about selling a receiver before a quarterback change, because I'm usually wrong in these situations.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah.

[Andrew Erickson]

So I think. Do you package him? Who are the receivers ranked around him in ecr?

[Ryan Wormley]

So I was going to ask you this. I want you to rank these three because they're all next to each other and they're all talented. Number twos. T. Higgins, Jordan Addison, Devonte Smith.

[Andrew Erickson]

I knew.

[Additional Analyst]

I knew this was gonna be the guys that you were gonna bring up. And this is definitely another one of.

[Andrew Erickson]

My blind spots is hitting on these number two guys. And offenses where they like, pop randomly. Oh, how I would rank them rest of season. So I. Addison. So I have Addison the heist. So if it was up to those two guys, I think I'm still rolling with Addison, which now that I'm saying it, feels wrong. Do you disagree? Because I would definitely understand if you do.

[Ryan Wormley]

Higgins is ranked highest in ECR than Addison. Then Smith. Ricky Piersol is in that conversation as well in terms of the ECR rankings and some of the other names around them. Debo and Terry McLaren. Marvin Harrison Jr. Keenan Allen. These are like the names that Addison is ranked near. Jameson Williams.

[Andrew Erickson]

I think he has to be a sweetener in a deal. I think that's the move to make where you're not just selling Addison because he has his own value. We're just concerned about the quarterback switch, which maybe some other people think it differently to think maybe he's better with McCarthy. McCarthy's the core, unquote starter. The Vikings want McCarthy under center, so he must be better. I remains to be seen how that will play out. So I think maybe it's better running or receiver to package as part of a trade deal versus just trading him straight up for. Would you take him if you're need? So the other thing we talk about with trades is you probably have to. You have to send a better wide receiver to get a running back just because of the scarcity of running back. Do you trade Jordan Addison for one of the running back buys? Chase Brown, if you need a running back?

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, I think. I think if. If based on the needs of your team, if you have depth at receiver and you need a running back, I think that's a really reasonable trade.

[Andrew Erickson]

Okay. And because I think Addison is probably a depth guy on most people's rosters because he was relatively cheap during draft season because he was going to miss the first three games or first, first three games of the season with the suspension and he's obviously performed well above where you drafted him. So you're probably feeling good about receiver with him on your roster. So if you can flip him for a running back that we talked about as a buy, maybe that's the better move than just flipping him for another receiver.

[Ryan Wormley]

The one league I have, Addison, it's Dynasty league, so I have CD Lam, Malik, Neighbors, Igbuka, Garrett, Wilson, Addison. So I was like feeling great early in the season and now every one of those players has missed at least some time this year already. Now Lamb obviously came back and Igbuka came, came back faster than expected and all that. So it looks a little bit better now than it did last week. But last week I was like, how is this wide receiver room already so terrible? We're not even through October. Just injuries. They're the best. Let's go to your other wide receiver.

[Andrew Erickson]

To sell, Brian Thomas Jr. And this, this pains me to bring him onto the show because I think that he definitely was one of the buy lows we had really early in the season. I was falling for it. I thought, okay, he's too talented of a guy. They're going to get it together, they're going to make it work. I just hated what I've seen from Brian Thomas Jr. It seems like it's always one step forward, two steps back, where we start to build momentum with Brian Thomas and Trevor Lawrence in this new offense with Liam Cohen. And then he just has a dud and he's dropping balls over the middle of field. Maybe this injury thing is bigger than we're all being led on to. He was dealing with a wrist injury earlier in the season and in this last game against the Rams, he's holding his shoulder. It looks like he's banged up and he didn't even take a big hit in that game. Game. It just looks like he's not 100 healthy. And I wouldn't be surprised if after the season we're going to get a report. Brian Thomas played entire season with torn.

[Additional Analyst]

Labrum and it's like that would have been great to know the entire season.

[Andrew Erickson]

When I could have been trying to sit this guy or get off of this certain player. But it's just, it's just all bad for Brian Thomas Jr. And like I said, when we've seen growth opportunities, they've been been stopped and he takes a step back. So for me, he's on the bye week this week we don't know what the extent of the injury is, but against the Rams, three for 31, eight targets, more drops. And honestly, why I feel comfortable selling low on Brian Thomas Jr. At this point is in the fantasy playoffs, he faces the jets and the Broncos. Right. Are you going to be able to start him in either of those matchups with any type of confidence?

[Ryan Wormley]

No, probably not.

[Andrew Erickson]

So if he's not going to help you win your fantasy championship, then I'm sorry, sayonara. Like, you gotta, you gotta find a way to get him off your roster because he's a person where he's hurting you more than helping you in any way. And I'm sure this isn't any breaking news to anyone that has Brian Thomas.

[Additional Analyst]

Jr. On their roster.

[Andrew Erickson]

It's, I mean, we're talking about biggest busts of the season, injuries aside. And if he's dealing with an injury, like the worst thing is when guys actually play through injuries, it hurts their production. So if that's the case with Brian Thomas Jr. It's, it's a situation where, yeah, I think you need to sell low and just try to find a different alternative because you can't trust him in your lineup to put back to back games together. Is this Travis Hunter, you know, heading into their bye week, is he going to see more usage as a receiver after he had a monster game? That's another concern. Is Brian Thomas Jr. Even the Alpha in this offense anymore? Again, fourth fewest points versus expectation this season for Brian Thomas Jr. The other two guys are two Browns.

[Additional Analyst]

Receivers, Jerry Judy and Isaiah Bond and then Malik Washington.

[Andrew Erickson]

Like that's how underperforming he is doing this season. He's one of PFF's lowest graded wide receivers. He's in the bottom 20, so it's just not the same as last year. He doesn't look like the same guy. They're not using him the same way. And for all those reasons, I think that he's a, a sell low. And I, I really hate doing sell lows, especially on a player that I wanted to buy earlier in the season because he started off not great. I have like some concerns just because they're on their bye week and maybe Liam Cohen fixes everything, but maybe that's the idea that you use to sell Brian Thomas Jr. Is that, oh well, they're going to fix everything in the bye weekend. That's the reason why you should trade him away or trade for him when, I don't know. I feel like I've seen too much of him with Trevor Lawrence and it just looks like this man. It just like it's not, it's not a cohesive chemistry between these two quarterbacks and it just goes back to who was the quarterback when Brian Thomas Jr. Was breaking out melting faces last year. It wasn't Trevor Lawrence, it was M. Jones. So I don't know. That's a laundry list of reasons why you should be off Brian Thomas Jr. War haven't convinced you that he is a guy you should sell low on.

[Ryan Wormley]

You didn't need to convince me.

[Additional Analyst]

I was already there was here like three weeks ago.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, I what I wanted to ask you the follow up is like I think that selling low on Thomas is like pretty clear at this point. So rather than asking about him in Redraft, I am curious what you would be doing with him in Dynasty because going into the season this was like oh my gosh, I have one of like, like wide receiver six in Dynasty rankings. Whatever it was, it was like around there like, like people were over the moon about Brian Thomas Jr. In any kind of dynasty or keeper format. So in that kind of league would you be looking to sell him also or would you be looking to hold him and say like hopefully next year it's better?

[Andrew Erickson]

I think it depends on the quarterback thing where I'm getting Trevor Lawrence, Brian Thomas Jr. Vibes that I get from Kyler Murray, Marvin Harrison Jr. Vibes where it just seems like this quarterback wide receiver pairing is just not going to work right. No matter how they spin it, no matter how much time they get in practice. And it kind of occurred to me when I'm watching Joe Flacco just rip the ball to Jamar Chase like they've been playing as teammates for the past 10 years. I think sometimes it just comes naturally for certain players and quarterbacks.

[Ryan Wormley]

Sam Darnold and JSN is another one where it just looks like they've had chemistry forever.

[Andrew Erickson]

Exactly. And I don't think that's by accident. I just think stylistically some guys fit each other's skill sets really well and for some reason it just that's not the case with Brian Thomas Jr. And Trevor Lawrence where it's pulling teeth to get a completion over the middle of the field between these two players. So I just, I don't think it's imagine to change during a bye week. And the thing that really sells me on it Worm and maybe this should have been a bigger alarm clock or like alarm going off. My mind is constantly being bombarded with the Trevor Lawrence Travis Hunter commercials where.

[Additional Analyst]

They look like best friends and.

[Andrew Erickson]

Oh, yeah, it would have been nice.

[Additional Analyst]

To know, like, these guys are doing.

[Andrew Erickson]

All these commercials together. They're hanging out all the time together. And that's why Brian Thomas Jr. Is no longer the wide receiver one of the Jags, because Travis Hunter is, Trevor Lawrence are best buddies and that's who he wants to target. So, yeah, I think it now depends on what are you selling him for, especially on a bye week off a bad game when he's injured. I don't know. What can you even get for Brian Thomas Jr. At this point? Or do you wait till he comes back after the bye week?

[Ryan Wormley]

Wait. Wait for him to have one good game and then sell immediately? Yeah, I don't know.

[Andrew Erickson]

Yeah, it's a. It's rough, I think. Is this a classic case of you do a sell low for a buy low, where you buy, you.

[Additional Analyst]

You get someone else's trash?

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe. All right, let's go to the quarterbacks and tight end segment. You've actually got two tight ends for us here this week. One buy, one sell. Who do you have?

[Andrew Erickson]

I'm going with George Kittle as the buy. Now, we all saw what happened on Sunday Night Football where he's playing majority snaps, but he's run blocking. He's not being used at all in the passing game. So Kittle basically was not involved as a receiver. I don't think that's going to happen two weeks in a row. I think that Kyle Shanahan goes out his way to reward his guys, especially for run blocking effectively. It was Kittle's first game back from an injury, so he was kind of getting back into the swing of NFL game speed, getting back up to it. And Worm, you know what? Next week is National Tight End Day. Do you think that George Kittle is going to be held down without a catch on National Tight End Day? I think not. I think that this is more like a hey, George Kittle three touchdown game.

[Additional Analyst]

So if you have a manager that's.

[Andrew Erickson]

Really pissed off about starting Kittle after the bye week or after he came back from injury thinking, man, he's going to be back to go top five tight end ready to go. And then she puts on absolute dude and they're really frustrated, I would go scoop George Kittle up right now from that manager because I think that they may offer him for less than he's being valued. I think that he's going to probably blow up here in week eight.

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[Ryan Wormley]

There'S nothing like that I care about less than National Tight End Day. When, like on all day on the broadcast, like Scott Hansen's gonna be mentioning it. Every broadcast will be talking about it. It's the dumbest, like, fake holiday ever. I, I like actually get, I roll my eyes so heavily at it. But if there is one guy who's gonna be like, no, I'm, we're gonna have a big day on national, it's George Kittle. Like, he's the one guy that I actually do care about it a little.

[Andrew Erickson]

Especially with him coming off a game where he basically was not involved at all.

[Ryan Wormley]

I mean.

[Andrew Erickson]

Right. He had zero catches. So.

[Ryan Wormley]

And he said afterwards he was like, blame Kyle, not me.

[Andrew Erickson]

Yeah. So I think that he'll bounce back in a big way because this is nothing new. He's had games like this before where. No, that's just not his role. It's not.

[Ryan Wormley]

Also, Atlanta's defense is good.

[Andrew Erickson]

Yes.

[Ryan Wormley]

Like, like they have been really. I don't know if people have come around to it yet. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people listening have. We have a pretty smart audience. But like, in case you haven't, Atlanta's defense is good. Like, I wouldn't overly worry about like, lower, you know, poor performing games against them at any position. Like, they, they cause a lot of havoc. They can rush the passer now. Like, they're a good defense.

[Andrew Erickson]

Yeah. So I, I think that Kiddle definitely is going to bounce back against the Houston Texans. Honestly, it could be any matchup. And I would feel much more confident about starting Kittle this week just because Kyle Shannon said after the game that he wanted to run the ball 40 times against the Atlanta Falcons. So clearly there was no, hey, we're going to sling the ball all around the yard. And there's also a chance that Brock Purdy comes back. So Brock Purdy, George Kittle, they have built in chemistry already. We saw Kittle balling out in Week 1 before his injury and Brock Purdy was the quarterback. So I think there are enough reasons to skew positive towards Kittle having a major bounce back game. And trust me, the George Kittle managers are not happy after last week as.

[Additional Analyst]

He made very, very clear on the podium post game.

[Ryan Wormley]

What tight end are you selling?

[Andrew Erickson]

Travis Kelce. That's the guy that I want to sell. I think that the Rashi Rice, when he came back into the offense, he just established himself as the alpha, right? Nobody else was nearly as heavily involved as Rashi Rice was and it was in a blowout and it was so clear that hey, Rice is the number one target in this passing game. Travis Kelce has now played four games in total with Rashi Rice since the start of last year. His tight end finishes in those games, including this last week when he had three targets. Tight end 20. Tight end 14. Tight end 46. Tight end 19. So Kelsey is not a fantasy tight end one when Rashi Rice is on the field. And I think that right now he's still kind of valued in that range just because of the position. But can flip Travis Kelce for a George Kittle or Travis Kelce plus for George Kittle or do it in a heartbeat.

[Ryan Wormley]

I don't really disagree with you, but just to play devil's advocate, do you think there's any chance that for this game in particular this was the Chiefs saying like, hey, we are so much better than this team. We can play with our food a bit. This is Rashid Rice's first game back. Let's really like get him these high value touch and just get him more comfortable and shake off the rust in a game where we know we're going to dominate regardless. And like, like, is there any chance that that was how this played out and it'll be a more even distribution going forward? I mean, I know that's. It's kind of hard to make that case because we saw Rice with Kelsey like at the beginning of last season and when he, he broke out at the end of his rookie season. But is there any chance that was kind of their mindset going into this one with Rice?

[Andrew Erickson]

I definitely agree with you on that because everything around the red zone was get the ball to four.

[Additional Analyst]

Yeah, get the ball to Rashi Rice. We want to make sure that everyone.

[Andrew Erickson]

Knows that he is back scoring touchdowns. So I don't think it'll be that heavily skewed in the red zone per se with Rashi Rice versus some of the other guys. I think Kelsey is just touchdown or bust at this point. That because I think that the targets are going to be harder to come by when Rice is on the field. And even if they're playing in more competitive games, I still think when push comes to shove it's going to be Rashi Rice that's seeing the majority of targets and if not him then Xavier Worthy's also going to be involved. So I think Kelsey falls enough in the pecking order where he he is really more touchdown dependent. Now when Mel Holmes is your quarterback, that's not necessarily the worst thing in the world to be attached to and you're a guy that throws for three plus touchdowns every single week. Okay, that's a good bet to make. But I still think that I would rather use Kelsey as a piece to try to jump up in that tight end tier when you're talking about players like Tucker Kraft or even Brock Bowers injury. Jake Ferguson, he's been balling out. Maybe you can trade Kelsey plus for Jake Ferguson with CD Lamback and now maybe that's more of a crowded offense. Sam LaPorta off of a bad game or the aforementioned George Kittle who's obviously coming off a really bad game as well.

[Ryan Wormley]

Let's do some buy, sell and hold. We'll start with the wide receivers. Buy, seller, hold, DK Metcalf, Vlad McConkey, Zay Flowers. We kind of talked about these guys earlier when we're talking about Stefan Diggs because they're all kind of in that same range. Buy, sell or hold Metcalf, Makonke and Flowers.

[Andrew Erickson]

So I'm going to hold DK Metcalf, another player that I definitely was not high on during draft season. And he's kind of proven. He's definitely proven me wrong. He's had an alpha target share in the Steelers offense and what I've liked the most about him the last two weeks is without Calvin Austin in the offense, he's actually seeing downfield targets. So to start the year it was all DK Met behind the line of scrimmage. No longer the case. He's actually being used more downfield now. Would that stay the same way when Calvin Austin comes back? Maybe, maybe not. I think it probably will just because I don't think that you devise your game plan. At least Arthur Smith shouldn't do this based on the availability of Calvin Austin being being in your offense. So I think that Metcalf would Be the hole for me. I like his schedule rest of season he's shown upside with Aaron Rodgers was a big play guy, touchdown equity and I mean last. I mean Rogers has had a couple ceiling games here. So I, I like Metcalf as a hold lab A Conkey is the screaming buy of these three players. And the reason I think this is not just because he's had a couple big games the last couple weeks. Obviously Quinn Johnson had been injured in one of those games and I think that maybe we're attributing some of his success to Johnson missing. But worm last year on the show I jumped off the Jackson, Smith and Jigba bandwagon right before he just melted faces. And it really, really frustrated me because I like JSN a ton of second year guy in draft season and I just got really impatient because it didn't end up happening as soon as I wanted to. And then I remember being like, you gotta, you gotta trade. And then he just went absolutely nuclear the rest of the way. Now we're seeing him just continue his nuclear pace this year. So Lama Conkey checks off almost all those same boxes as JSN did before. He just totally erupted in the second half of last year where he's top 10 in the NFL in terms of catches, targets, routes run. He actually is leaving the NFL and routes run. That was the exact same step that JSN was leading last year before he ended up breaking out. And why was I hesitant about buying into JSN was. Well, he only benefited because DK Metcalf missed injuries who just missed an injury or who just missed games because of injury. Quinton Johnston. So yes, Lad has had a big game, but I think that he can still be bought because it hasn't all come together like we quite thought it would this soon into the season, especially with the other receivers being involved. So I think with a crowded receiver room between Keenan Allen, Quinton Johnston that I think Ladd, you can still buy him. I think there's still a chance that you can go out and acquire him. I really like this matchup this week against the Vikings. I think that they're worse against slot receivers than perimeter wide receivers. So yeah, Ladd for me is shaping up to be this year's Jackson, Smith and Jigba where he just has a monster second half stretch and I want to be aggressive with him in trades. And that by default means a flowers is the sell.

[Ryan Wormley]

That was a very long winded way of say of like getting to the exact spot that I just like Totally agree. Like, I think Metcalf is the whole Lad is the buy and say is the sell. I'm, I feel stronger about Zay being the sell you kind of have in there by default. I've been saying this for, for a couple weeks now on this show. Like, I think everybody's maybe a little over their skis about, like, well, Lamar is going to come back and, you know, melt faces with Zay Flowers. Like, again, he didn't practice Monday. Even if he does return, like, I don't know. That'll be a hundred percent. I don't know what the offense is going to look like if Lamar doesn't have his mobility. Like, if he's just is a true pocket passer. He's a very good pocket passer. Like, this is not me saying he can't throw the ball, but I just think the offense looks different in that scenario. And I also was kind of out on Zay even before the Lamar injury stuff. So I think if you can sell Zay as somebody who's in this range of players, like, he's ranked next to these guys in ecr and I think that's wrong. I think he's clearly lower than in my personal rest of season rankings. DK Metcalf and Lad McConkey. So if you can get those types of players for Zay, like, I would do that. I would trade Zay for Chris Alave. I would trade him for Michael Pittman. Like, I, I, I think selling Zay on the idea of Lamar coming back is very smart right now. But I agree with you on your picks for all three of these guys. Next wide receiver trio here. Marvin Harrison Jr. Terry McLaurin, T. Higgins. We talked about Higgins a little already. Marvin Harrison Jr. Terry McLaurin, T. Higgins. Buy, seller, hold.

[Andrew Erickson]

I think I'm going to hold T. Higgins. Just enjoy the ride. I think that's really it. Maybe the Flacco thing doesn't last all year long. Flames out, but maybe Joe Burrow comes back. You know, T. Higgins has a really high weekly ceiling and we've seen that even just last week against the Steelers. So gonna hold T. Higgins. Marvin Harrison Jr. I think I'm going to sell just because a lot of the same reasons that we're selling Brian Thomas Jr. Is I've seen enough of Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Jr. To just, it's not happening between these guys. Just not, not they don't have the chemistry for him to break out and to live up to the expectations of where he was drafted. I think that he needs a new quarterback and I was kind of hopeful that maybe we could see that from Jacobe. But he got a concussion in the first game and then it was a Trey McBride show in the second game. And all indications are the Cardinals are going to go back to Kyler Murray after their bye week when he's healthy. So I'm going to be selling Marvin Harrison Jr. And then I would be buying Terry McLaren. Has he played this?

[Additional Analyst]

It feels like he hasn't played this season at all.

[Ryan Wormley]

So it does feel like an entirely like just forgotten, like nothing has happened this whole, I mean, he played three games at the start of the season.

[Andrew Erickson]

And it didn't even feel like he was really playing because he was coming off the training camp, pulled out. Was he 100%. I think I would buy Chairman Corn in the hopes that maybe he could have a Puka Nukua season from last year where basically just off the radar for the first half of the season because he was injured. Look, there's a scenario where Debo remains banged up, Terry comes back and Jay Daniels is his quarterback. And in that situation, you want Terry McLaurin on your roster. So his value is so little right now. I know I picked him up off the waiver wire in one of my leagues because somebody dropped him because he's doing nothing right now. And the outlook, at least short term, doesn't look great. But because of the price I think is just so, so cheap. We've seen him cook with Jaden Daniels and if we're just looking ahead to like, if Daniels is there and McLaurin is his wide receiver one in the fantasy playoffs, then that's something that you can probably get excited about. So he would be the person I would probably buy. Maybe that's maybe that way. Sorry, sorry. I mean, cut you off. Or maybe McLaurin is who you go after with guys like Brian Thomas Jr. Right.

[Ryan Wormley]

You could be, you can get McLaren+ though with Thomas, I mean, beggars, I think you choose. I, I, I'm not saying you should. I'm saying I think you could.

[Andrew Erickson]

But I think that's a trade that I would feel just if I want to wipe my hands clean of Brian Thomas Jr. You would do a one for one. Just get McLaurin, be like, hey, I'll just wait it out. At least I know when he comes back healthy and Daniels as quarterback that he should produce because we saw him be a wide receiver one last year.

[Ryan Wormley]

With, I mean, I mean, Terry's wide receiver, 36 in the rest of season Consensus rankings and Brian Thomas's wide receiver 12. So there is a. There is a gap there.

[Andrew Erickson]

So to your point, yeah, you probably should get something more, but yeah.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, that's interesting. All right, quarterback trio here, Bo Nix. Oh, I wrote down four names on accident here. You know what we're going to throw.

[Andrew Erickson]

Keep, leave it all for selling on this show.

[Ryan Wormley]

You get, you get one bonus here you can double up on. Buy, sell or hold. I will allow it. Bo Nix, Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford, Jackson Darth.

[Andrew Erickson]

I'm going to buy Jackson Dart. The rushing has just been absolutely fantastic for him. And despite that he doesn't have malik neighbors. He just continues to ball out. Super impressed with what he was able to do against a Denver Broncos defense on the road. Jackson Dart this year reminds me a lot of Drake May as a rookie where the guy's just doing it all and we know that the circumstances aren't that great around him. Wanda Robinson's your number one wide receiver. Theo Johnson is your number one tight end. Scadaboo and Jackson Dart have just been on fire and I don't think it's going to stop. So I would be buying Jackson Dart. I think I'm going to hold the pocket passers between Goff and Matthew Stafford. Just elite weaponry. Been really efficient in terms of passing touchdowns, passing yardage. Stafford for five touchdowns without Puka. Just absolutely insane how efficient he has been this year. And without Puka, Puka's gonna come back. So yeah, I want to buy these pockets or I want to hold on to these pocket passers. And then I would probably sell Bo Nicks. It's just been he's coming off a monster game that we all know was everything happened in the fourth quarter. He has just been too inconsistent for me to rely on. When the stakes are its highest in the fantasy championships, where am I going to be relying on Bo Nicks to get it done for me? I don't know the exact schedule for the Broncos, but I don't think that it's actually super great, especially during the playoffs. I know that their receiver schedule is not that great, so I'd have to double check what the matchups are. And so correct me if I'm wrong, Worm, but I think Bo Nicks just off the game, points wise that he had last week, I would be probably selling high on that because it was all fourth quarter driven. I mean, just such a. A crazy game for him with that type of output and the ups and downs with him. I just don't think that he's Taking that next step that a lot of us thought that he would do in year two with Sean Payton. If anything, he's kind of regressed a little bit, which concerns me for relying on him on a week to week basis. I know that he runs and he has some good weapons, but the trust factor has just not been there with Bonix for me.

[Ryan Wormley]

Fantasy playoffs for the Broncos are Green Bay, Jacksonville at Kansas City.

[Andrew Erickson]

Yeah, so not, not great. Jacksonville. I mean that's, that's a good matchup.

[Ryan Wormley]

But yeah, so I, yeah, I think Goff versus Stafford is interesting. Stafford, you know this is even. This is on a per game basis, not overall total because obviously there's like bi weeks mixed in and stuff at this point. But on a per game basis he is QB11 this season, which is really remarkable for a guy who does not run at all. It just kind of shows you how impressive he's been as a passer and that's with week six is really dragging him down when he had just nine fantasy points like the rest has been, you know, he would be over 20 points a game as purely a passer if not for that week. I think like I'd rather have Stafford than Goff. I think golf like of the two, if I had to sell one, I'd rather sell Goff because I think people will, they see the Lions, they all play the play indoors, they have these great weapons. Goff hasn't been actually that great. I mean that week two game he was excellent. He had 32 points. But he hasn't really moved the needle at all. Outside of that he's been more solid than, than good. I mean he. If you look at his QB finishes, it's QB21, then QB1, QB23, 22, 13, 18, 21. Like he has not had a top 12 finish outside of week two this season. So if you can sell him based on just the Lions of it all, I'd rather sell him and hold Stafford. Of those two, I agree. All right, tight end trio to wrap things up here. Dallas Goddard, Dalton, Kincaid and then everybody's favorite breakout, Irande Gadsden. The second again, Goddard, Kincaid and Gadsden. Buy, sell or hold.

[Andrew Erickson]

Somebody is going to be very sad with some of these Chargers players after they play the Vikings.

[Additional Analyst]

Because I don't know if we're going to get all four to be productive two weeks in a row.

[Andrew Erickson]

We'll see. I think for me Kincaid would probably be the buy. I think that I liked what I've seen from him this year when he's been healthy. Now obviously the health is the biggest question mark but nobody else has really stepped up in this bill's pass catching room. Josh Palmer is banged up now. If Kinkade is healthy, I think he's probably the guy I would want to buy. He's been hyper targeted at a really high rate this season similar to last year and he's been catching touchdowns and Josh Allen's also his quarterback. So the Bills are still looking for answers at receiver. Maybe a healthy Kincaid can be that guy. So I think that'd probably buy Kincaid. Gatson would probably be my hold or you know, Adam off waivers and then you would hold him like rookie titans aren't supposed to do what he's doing, right? So it's very possible going back to hey, we're trying to buy talent, we're trying to get good players on our roster and then the situations which kind of fall into their favor. I mean if he's the starting tight end for the losing Chargers rest of season that has a lot of power. So I think that he would probably be my hold if you add him off waivers and then Goddard would be my sell and the only reason he would be my cell is I know what Dallas Goddard is and he's a back end tight end fantasy one every single year, right? Nothing more, nothing less. And I don't think that's going to change especially with after what happened last week where he kind of played third fiddle to Devonte Smith. AJ Brown seems like every week we're going to see one of these eagles pass catchers kind of disappoint just because there's not enough mouths to feed in that offense. So Goddard for me I, I just know what he is like. I don't think that he's going to be a top five tight end in anytime soon unless one of those receivers gets injured or traded. So I would probably just sell him just based on the lack of upside where he's probably just gonna end up being in that tight end 12 the 15 range when the season finishes.

[Ryan Wormley]

I think that's a totally fair breakdown from you I would say like Gadsden, I think there's a case for him as a cell to just like. Like unless you think he is Brock Bowers and Tyler Warren and just happened to fall as late in the draft as he did by some fluke and he actually is on those level like you should not have high expectations for a rookie tight end even if he's getting the opportunity that he's going to get for the Chargers and coming off of the best game a tight end has had this season in production. Like as a late round rookie pick, this is going to be inconsistent and I would be like, if you can sell him now, maybe you really need a tight end and you feel like you've kind of fallen, you know, into a miracle and oh, you got this late round guy who's, you know, saying whatever, that's great. I'm not saying he's a sell at any cost, but I think there's a strong case that if you can get a real piece back, that he might be a smart sell. I think Goddard's a totally valid pick as a sell too. And it's fun to be excited about Gadsden. So I'm not saying you're wrong in the picking it the way you do, but I think there's a case for Gadsden as a sell.

[Andrew Erickson]

Yeah, the waiver wire guys are always tough to evaluate what their trade market value is because they cost nothing to get. And I think there's a hesitance in the trade market to then over pursue for them because, well, I missed out on them on waivers. I don't want to trade an actual asset now to get a player that I could have got on waivers for my fab dollars. So I think that hurts you in the position to trade Gadson, even though I agree with you in theory. Yeah, trade this rookie tight end day three pick after a insane monster game. Although to his credit, he has had some other good games this year besides just this last one where he's been targeted a lot. He's running a lot of routes and at tight end attached to Justin Herbert. That's not necessarily the worst bet to to make. So. Yeah, but I do agree with your sentiment about or the process behind selling high on Gadsden, if it's possible.

[Ryan Wormley]

All right, we'll go ahead and wrap things up there because if we went extra long actually on both episodes this week, got a lot of content there for you. Best of luck here making your trades in week eight. For Ericsson, I'm Ryan Wormley. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football podcast. If you love the show, the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on apple [e-mail] review or on Spotify. Follow us on X Instagram and TikTok at fantasypros and subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube.com fantasypros this is an I heart podcast.