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Sen. Rick Scott Talks Iran And Nuking The Filibuster
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On this episode of The Federalist Radio Hour, Sen. Rick Scott joins Federalist Senior Elections Correspondent Matt Kittle to weigh in on President Donald Trump's handling of the Iran war, explain why the Republican-controlled Senate must nuke the...
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And we are back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, senior elections correspondent at the Federalist and your experience Sherpa on today's quest for knowledge. As always, you can email the show at radio@the federalist.com follow us on x@fdrlst. Make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast and of course, don't forget that premium version of our website as well. Please to welcome into the Federalist Radio Hour today Rick Scott. Senator Rick Scott from the great red state of Florida. Sir, thank you so much for joining us.
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Well, it's great to be with you. Yep. We're trying to. It wasn't read when I started back in 2010. There were actually, when I ran in 2010, there were 568,000 more Democrats. So we've, we've been able to really change the state over the last 16 years.
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Oh, the times have changed very much. So are they still fired up for November is the question. Because we have seen some elections over the last little while where we know that the liberals and the far leftists are very fired up against Donald Trump. Donald Trump's not on the ballot this time around. Are the folks in Florida fired up for November?
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Well, I'm going to do everything I can to make sure they are. But you know, special elections are always hard because you got to work, work, work to get your vote out. So I think we're going to have a good November. But, you know, it comes down to great candidates. You got to have the money to run a great race and then you've got to bust your butt to get your votes, you know, so it's, it's none of that's easy. So, but it's all, it's all doable. And we're going to have a lot to run, I think in November. It's going to be a real choice. The Democrats don't care about jobs, they don't care about your kids education and they don't care about public safety. And those are the three most important things that the Floridians care about. I think most Americans care about. And we're on the right side of all those.
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Well, we'll talk a little bit more about those coming up. But I think the pressing business today as we speak, there is a tentative, tenuous ceasefire between the United States and Iran and Israel. I just wanted to get your take on where we are and where we've been. You serve obviously on the Armed Services Committee, on the Homeland Security Government Affairs Committee, and the Foreign Relations Committee. You want to talk about the trifecta of world and security policy, you've got it. What did you think of the ceasefire and what do you think of the assertions that this was a huge victory for the United States?
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Well, first off, you really have to admire the President. I don't think there's another person. Well, we haven't had a president that's been willing to step up and protect American lives like this, so I'm optimistic. It always takes, you know, two to tango. I'm a business guy, so I did a lot of deals in my life, and you can't make anybody do something. You can. You can try your best. And so I think the President has done the best he can to put us in a position where Iran needs to do this and Iran wants to do this, but in the end, they've got. They got to do it. I know we're going to, you know, we're going to respond in a positive manner to, to making sure they have no nuclear weapons, make sure they don't have the ballistic missile capability to continue to kill Americans. And so, so I know Trump's going to do the right thing. Our military do the right thing. I hope Iran does.
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Secretary of Defense, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said today as we speak at a press conference that this was a seminal, significant victory. In fact, let's play a little audio here of the Secretary.
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President Trump forged this moment. Iran begged for this ceasefire and we all know it as the President. Truth this morning, a big day for world peace. Iran wants it to happen. They've had enough. Operation Epic Fury was a historic and overwhelming victory on the battlefield. A capital V military victory by any measure. Epic Fury decimated Iran's military and rendered it combat ineffective for years to come. You see, in less than 40 days, one of our combatant commands, Central Command, CENTCOM, using less than 10% of America's total combat power, dismantled one of the world's largest militaries, the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, proved utterly incapable of defending itself, its people or its territory.
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You heard the secretary. Obviously, he has an extremely upbeat assessment of how things went over the last month. Plus, do you, do you agree with that assessment? And I ask you that because you're a member of the aforementioned committees, you're privy to information that we don't necessarily have. What do you think of his assessment of all of this?
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Absolutely. It's absolutely true. First off, you should not be, ever, ever be in a position that you are on the opposite side of the US Military. We have the best assets, we have the best people, we have the most committed people because we're fighting for something that's very important, freedom and liberty. So yeah, we, we, I, I just hope and pray that Iran is sensible here because if not their, their infrastructure is going to be destroyed, probably their ability to sell oil will be destroyed. And so, but I think they've seen that the US military, there's nothing like it. There's no, there's no military that's close to it in the world. So and we, and we have a president that's willing to use it in the right manner and we've got a great chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff that knows how to get the best out of our troops.
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They talk about the goals and there seem to be a number of them over the course of, of this conflict. And again, as you say, the conflict isn't over as, as we speak today Iran is already saber ratt want to do and reportedly blocking up some traffic in the Strait of Hormuz. That has more to do as we understand it with Israel's attack on Lebanon and some of the terms of all of this. But do you feel like the goals have been met? And I asked that because quite frankly it seemed that the goals had shifted along the way. We talk about regime change, we talk about of course the number one priority I know is fixed and that is to make sure that the evil regime that truly is in Iran suppressing its people and murdering Americans first and foremost that they don't have the capabilities to launch nuclear weapons at anybody. Do you think the goals have been met in this campaign?
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Absolutely. If the goal which mine what's important to me is they don't have the ability to destroy nuke or to destroy America with nuclear weapons now. They can't today we do need to get the enriched uranium out of the country. So I think that's going to be important. So that's not been accomplished yet. Number two is we clearly have destroyed their existing ability to kill us with ballistic missiles. But they can rebuild that. So, so the, so maybe we can, you know, get where we want to go without regime change. But this regime will have to say they are not going to continue to try to kill Americans and kill Americans. I don't know if that's possible from their standpoint because they're ideologues. So but I'm, you know, I remain optimistic now it would be great that if we had leadership there that was chosen by the people of Iran that wanted to be, wanted to go build a great economy, make sure families, you know, have opportunity and great education and public safety. It'd be nice if we had that there.
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It would. And that brings up a question about the notion of regime change that didn't happen. So what are you hearing from those truly oppressed? I know the left likes to talk about the oppressed and oppressors, but these folks have been truly oppressed for the better part of 50 years. Are they disappointed in this ceasefire? Are they still hopeful that they can affect regime change there?
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I think we're, I think where they are is it's no different than where people are and what's going on in Venezuela. They're hopeful, they're not where they want to be. They see a path, but they're not there yet. So they're very appreciative what the United States has done to destroy Iran's capabilities. But we don't have freedom of liberty yet. So the, so I'm optimistic. I know the people of Iran are optimistic, but you know, it's, it's an evil regime. You know, they just, you know, they, you know, they've killed what the estimates are 30 plus thousand people just in January. They, they hung up a young wrestler just recently. So it's a despicable regime. And like, I don't get how these Democrats go out and try to defend it. I mean, I don't either. How can you defend these regimes that, that just, that kill their own citizens just because they don't like how the regime acts? So, I mean, so it just doesn't make any sense to me what these Democrats are doing by defending Ayatollah, defending Cuba or defending Maduro. I mean, just like, who, who do you represent? You sure as heck don't represent Americans.
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Yeah, I hope Americans get that because of course they're not really seeing the full picture from the usual suspects in corpor media. But that's what the Democrats are today. They are everything anti Donald Trump. And guess who else is anti Trump? The Ayatollahs and the Maduros and the Castro family and all of these actual despots. Now we, we all have different ideas about should we be in Iran, should we not? And I know that Americans in the main, from liberal to conservative, are concerned about long term, never ending wars because of what we have experienced over the last quarter century. That said it, it is hard to, to look at Iran and the people who have suffered there for so long and not have some sympathy for them. Don't you think
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I, you know, you feel so sorry for people that they just want to be like, there's a lot of Americans, people just want to lead a normal life. They want to raise their family, have a, have a good paying job and, and feel comfortable that they're safe in their homes, ain't knowing that their kids are going to get a good education and have a better future. That's what, that's what the Iranian families want. And I don't, like, I don't understand how people like Putin and Xi in China and Maduro and the Castro family, why they want to oppress the people of their countries. I told, I don't, I just don't get how, why you want to do that to other people. Because guess what? They don't, they don't do it to their kids. They make sure their kids have opportunities that, that the normal people don't have. So I, I just, I just don't see, you know, why they, why they think that way.
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Well, I have to be frank with you, Senator. It seems like those folks you mentioned are a lot like Democrats when it comes to public schools and making sure that kinds of money go into failed public schools. But a lot of their kids, of course, aren't going to those public schools. They're going to private elitist schools. And that's what you have in America. And that's why I think you had 2024 in large part because Americans saw these elitist leftists talking about all of these things, the climate change cult and we've got to cut our carbon footprint and then they watch John Kerry get into a jet plane and spew carbon all over the place. I mean, that's disconnect going on. Here's another disconnect as we move into another topic that I know is very important to you. That is the Save America Act. This legislation does what 80 to 90% of Americans want to see happen. It has two core principles. One, you have to be a US citizen to register to vote in US elections. Two, you have to show a photo ID to vote in US elections. Again, extremely popular. And yet you have Democrats who have stopped this thing. And I think we know the reasons therein. But you've also had some Republicans who have been very weak on this. And in the Senate, we have, we have seen that, unfortunately. Where does the Save America act stand now in the Senate? Where does the fight to get this done stand?
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Well, first off, I'm not going to stop fighting. I know Senator Mike Lee is not going to stop fighting. Senator Ron Johnson, we are not going to stop fighting to get this done. There's three paths to get this accomplished. Number one is that we get the 60 votes by getting some Democrats on board. So the. That's that.
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Good luck with that, by the way. Good luck with that.
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Number two, find a must pass bill. Maybe it's, you know, you know, something that we can attach it to, like Pfizer reauthorization or something like that, or the National Defense Authorization act, maybe we can do that. If not, then I don't see a path. Unless we either get rid of the filibuster or we force the Democrats to do what a filibuster is supposed to do and talk. Okay, until, you know, 50% of us say that we're done talking, we're going to vote.
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Yeah.
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The filibuster is about stopping debate after there's a robust debate, not about stopping legislation or stopping nominations. Democrats have used it to stop nominations and stop legislation. So those are our three options. I've come out. I'm, I'm fed up. I don't, I'm fed up. I think we have to get rid of the filibuster because I don't think the Democrats are going to come along. I think if, you know, if we were going to use the filibuster and say, ok, you get your chance, you get to go talk to, but at some point we're going to stop this and we're going to vote, that'd be one thing. But if it, if it's set up to where, no, you know, we're never going to get the vote, then we got to get rid of the way the filibuster works.
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guest today is Senator Rick Scott from the great state of Florida. As we talk about the Save America act and the possibility therein, is there the will to keep fighting on? I know that this isn' the filibuster. You know, the battle to filibuster that a lot of People had hoped the talking filibuster, the, the standing filibuster, if you will, but at least you're still engaged. How long does that go on? How long do the, do your colleagues on, on the right continue to stand up and keep this process going? Because there is grave concern that leadership will eventually say, well, we tried. We didn't get it done.
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Well, we go back, we go back next week. Now, here's what's on the table besides the Save America one. Homeland Security is still not funded. So we've got to figure out, and it looks like Democrats are not going to give us any votes for that. So we'll have to do that through the reconciliation, which takes time. That's number one. Number two is we're going to have a robust conversation about the FISA reauthorization, which has to happen by, think by April 20th and what sort of restrictions are we going to have to make sure that Americans are not surveilled again? Because Pfizer was never supposed to allow Americans to be surveilled. I've been surveilled. Other, you know, congressmen, women and senators have been prevailed are surveilled, and that's wrong. So those things are on the table. So I think we have to, we have to figure out how do we do all of those things. We need fisa. I do believe we, we need some reforms. We've got to help fund Homeland Security. And the only path that is reconciliation, which is sort of like getting rid of the filibuster because we do it without any Democrat votes. So the, and then, and we have to, we cannot stop until we get the Save America act passed. We, we got to stay on the bill until we get it passed.
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Yeah, no doubt about that. A lot of folks listening to this conversation would agree with that 100%. You have been surveilled. That's an amazing thing to say as a U.S. senator. That's a sad.
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Oh, no, no, this is a number one for me. Back when I was in the hospital business, Hillary Clinton went after me because I opposed Hillary Care. So she had my company investigated.
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Sure.
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And so that's number one. Number two is under the Biden administration, they stole my tax returns when they stole President Trump and Elon Musk and some others and then distribute that to ProPublica. Never went after ProPublica. You know, so they, so they've done that. And, and this was all done by Booz Allen. And that's number two. And number, number three is after January 6th, they went you know, correct. All my phone records and stuff. So, look, I'm sick and tired of the federal government and what they're, what they do. It's been under the Democrats, it's been weaponized. And I mean, it was under Bill Clinton. It was so, so far, I've had Bill Clinton go after me. I've had the Obama. When I was governor, he cut out funding for my Medicaid program because I wouldn't go along with what he wanted. And then under Biden, they stole my tax returns and they surveilled my, My phone records and my. So that was enjoyable. And I had to tell my daughters and my wife that.
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Yeah, I, I can imagine. I guess I can only imagine. Who knows? I mean, I've been in conservative media for a long time. We never, we never know, you know, And I, I have seen this happen again and again, and I guess that's my question. You have been spied on again and again, and you have been spied on as a government, by our government, as a U.S. senator. So who's ever going to be held accountable, though? That's the question that we're all.
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Makes you so mad. Yeah, yeah. So, like, there's nobody. The federal government ever gets held accountable. There's more under Trump than probably ever. But these people, if you violate the law, you should be held accountable. And so, I mean, they, you know, the people that clearly abuse their power, they've got to be held accountable.
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Yeah, no doubt about it. We have a former president in Barack Obama who I believe was instrumental, not only instrumental, led as the President of the United States, a soft coup against an incoming administration. And that continued, of course, with the whole Russia collusion hoax, the Russiagate deal. And all of these people all along, the only ones who have ever, ever been punished have been the likes of Steve Bannon and conservatives. Why can't we get to the point of accountability? And maybe there was something to the fact that Pam Bondi was not quite what Donald Trump needed to get to that accountability.
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Well, whatever it takes, we have to get to the accountability. Pam is a friend of mine. She was the Attorney General of Florida. She got elected when I got elected as governor, and she was great to work with. So I don't know all the inner workings, but there has to be, there has to be accountability for these people that we know targeted Republicans and went after us. So they, you know, they, I mean, it's. If they're not, then it's never going to stop. The next Democrat administration, they'll do the Exact same thing again because they. All they care about is power and they want to destroy Republicans.
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Yeah, that. That sums it up right there. I want to turn our attention to a very, very disgustingly big number. That number is 39, as in 39 trillion. In a recent letter to the editor responding to a George Will column about that notorious moment when we hit $39 trillion in debt, you say this. For decades, Congress has fueled its spending spree by borrowing from our children and grandchildren's future to pay Communist China interest on our debt. We'll likely hit the $40 trillion mark before November's midterm elections. It just makes me sick saying that and thinking about that and what, as you note, what that means for our children and our grandchildren. But nothing seems to be done about reining that massive debt in. What is being attempted and what can be done, in your estimation?
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Well, here's what's frustrating. I'm a business guy, and I think. I think borrowing money to make an investment that you get a return on makes sense. That means I did it. I did it. I built companies that way. Right. I borrowed money and I paid, you know, and I generate cash flow and I paid off the debt. We're not doing that. We are. We are borrowing money for unbelievable programs that are full of fraud, waste, and abuse.
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Yes.
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And we're spending money we don't have. Like, if the public's only willing to give us a certain amount of money, you cannot spend more than they tell you they're going to do. Right. So when I was governor of Florida, Florida had not balanced his budget but once in 40 years. This idea that states, first off, the states bounce the budget is a lie. Just borrow money. Well, our federal government's doing the exact same thing. I balanced the budget in Florida all eight years. You know how I did it? I said, this is what our revenues are going to be. We're not spending more than that. And actually, I paid off a third of the state debt. Our federal government enjoy Congress. The president gets to propose a budget, but he didn't get to pass a budget. Congress passes the budget. You know what Congress needs to do? They guess what, we're going to collect this amount of money. We're not spending more than that. So then what you do is a person, what do you do with your personal family life or your business? You say, okay, so this is. I'm going to allocate the revenues by salary. It's how I allocate my salary. There's a lot of nice to haves, but I'm not gonna get that because I don't make that money to have that. And I want to save for my kids education. I want to save for a rainy day. You do that. Our federal government's not saving for anything. Everybody gets everything they want. Oh yeah, you want money? Yeah. We got a program for you. That's what's going on. And it's disgusting. So I'm fighting it. But there's a lot of people that talk a big game that they really care about the budget, Budget. But there's not many that are saying I'm going to bust my butt to get this budget balance. We need to balance the budget. We could balance the budget. And by the way, if we stop spending, if we spent what we did pre Covid, we have a balanced budget. We just went back to that.
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Right.
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So it makes you mad because guess what it impacts. Somebody's got to pay the debt. That's number one. Number two is look at the interest expense that we get nothing for. Okay. Number three, look at the inflation and what, here's what it's doing to poor families. I grew up in public housing, right. I watched my parents struggle for work. And we're hurting families just like that because we're giving them inflation, okay. We're giving them higher interest rates. So if they want to buy a house, higher mortgage rate, they want to buy a car, higher interest rate. If they, if they have credit card debt, higher interest rates on that. That's what we're giving people by spending more than we take in. And we're and people's people. Congress is lying to the American public. We. Oh, it's so hard. No, it's not hard. There's like 16,000 or something like that. Earmarks in the spending bill that we passed this year. 16,000. There should be 0 of earmarks. When we balance the budget and we had extra money. Maybe you could argue. I could make that argument. Right. But you can't argue when you're borrowing, when you're borrowing money to do this. We're borrowing money for almost everything now. We're going to run almost 2 trillion dollar deficits. So this, this is so unfair to the poor families in this country and to the middle income. You know who's doing well? Rich people. They're getting richer. Stock markets doing really well. You know, gold's up, they're making money and hand over fist. Who's hurting? The middle income? Lower income people like, like my family growing up. They're struggling. Inflation and interest rates.
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Well, I'll Tell you, I don't begrudge a wealthy person making more money. I think that is part of the American dream. That's a lot of people's dream in America. I don't begrudge that at all. But I will tell you this. I was having a conversation this morning with our financial planner and he said, why don't you, as you get closer and closer to retirement here, I think I'm about 70 years off right now, based on the current structure of things. But as you get closer to retirement, why don't you give me a sense of your Social Security Security income you expect by the time you hit 62 and, and 65. And I said, well, I can tell you what I think it will be. I think it will be zero because I'm not confident that the Social Security trust fund will be solvent by then. That's the sort of stuff that is urgent and yet nobody seems to want to deal with that. Is there any movement? I mean, the president is very reluctant to deal with what has been the third rail in politics, and that's touching the Social Security account. But if the money goes away, it is not going to help anybody. So what's being done on that front?
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So when I became governor of Florida, the pension plan was something, I don't know, something like 80% funded. And so I said, this is unfair. People are relying. But at least it was 80% funded. So most of the federal programs are 0% unfunded. So the money, so the, the Social Security trust fund, we are, we are spending the money down. So, so because it's a, it's a pay as you go program. So when it goes, when there's no money left, right then there will be about a 23% cut in everybody's Social Security check. Now if you're rich, maybe that doesn't matter, but if you're poor and this is most of your income, it's going to be devastating. So we have to fix it. We got to look at all the ways you can fix it. But to sit here and do nothing. There's a lot of different ways and people have a lot of different ideas. One, get rid of the fraud and waste and the excess cost in it. That's all these federal programs. There's so much fraud, waste and abuse. But then we have to say ourselves, okay, guess what? We have either over promised on the benefit, and I'm one that, I'm like the president, I'm not going to accept benefits. I don't think it's fair. But there's ways to fix it. So the, but you can't even have a conversation right now because everything right now in the Senate, it's just used for elections. So if you have a conversation about it, they say, well, you'd want to destroy Social Security or you want to destroy Medicare. No, I want to save it. I have a bill, actually, I have a bill to save it. And guess how many Democrats are on my bill? None of them. They don't care. They just want to run for office and be in a position of power. So the, it's so unfair. Medicare is not fully funded, Social Security is not fully funded, and the pension plans the federal government has promised people, they're not funded at all. There's no money up.
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Yeah. Yeah. Final question for you. Been very generous with your time, but I did want to close kind of where we began. And that is the, you know, the political future, the balance of power off years. You know, midterm elections are usually, historically speaking, difficult times for the party in power. If the, if the Democrats take back the House, it will be impeachment theater over and over again. What do you think the chances are that Americans are still, despite the barrage of negative press on Donald Trump and Republicans, they're still not ready to go back to what we saw a couple of years ago under the Biden administration?
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Well, I'm optimistic and here's why. I think the American public is more engaged every day. You can see it with social media. They really, you know, you, you can watch their interest in things like the Save America act and things like that. So I think people are engaged. Now what we've got to do is really explain the difference. There's really, it's really simple. Well, you know, if you, if you look, take a typical American family, what do they care about? Number one, they want a good economy because that means they have a good job. Right. Democrats destroy the economy. You look under Trump first term, always trying to do. Now he builds an economy. So that's number one. So I'm optimistic about that. Number two, Democrats don't care about, about your child's education. They care about the teachers union and pay and making sure the teachers union does well. So Republicans, we give you school choice, which increases the odds that your kid's going to get a great education. And number three, as you know, as you can see, just even with this funding for Department of Homeland Security, Democrats don't care about your, your, the safety of you and your kids. They don't care if you know about people like Lincoln, Riley being murdered or Justin Lingari or, you know, Sheridan, the young lady up in Chicago. They don't care. So I think, I think it's going to be an election about the economy. We win. Education of children, we win. And public safety Republicans win. So that's why I think we're going to have a good November now. We have to have good candidates, we have to run good races, we have to raise our money, but we have the right messages to run on. So we just got to go do it.
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Absolutely. Well, you are an old Illinois boy, as you said. I am too. I was born in the home of Cheap Trick, my claim to fame. A Cheap Trick, the rock and roll band from Rockford, Illinois.
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Oh, really? Yeah.
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Yeah. Were finally.
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Were you.
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Were you. Were you secretly rooting for the Alliani in the NCAA tournament?
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Well, first I. Whatever Florida team there is, that's who I root for, number one. Then after that, I root for either Missouri, because I lived in Missouri for a while, or Illinois. Those are. Those are the two places. But my first allegiance is. So if there's a Florida anything, I root for that I love. All the Florida teams.
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I understand. You know, and I was born in, in Illinois. I grew up in Wisconsin, so I'm a Badger fan and, you know, the misery therein in this last tournament. But I have a hard time rooting for any team except for my beloved Chicago Cubs, where they're based in a state that J.B. pritzker is leading. I just. I just have a problem with that. But that's my own issue and I'll. I'll deal with that as, as I move along. I want to thank you for your. Your time and your candor. I appreciate getting to know you a little bit and then getting your perspective on some of these very significant issues.
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Well, congratulations on your program.
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Okay, thank you so much. And thanks to my guest today, Senator Rick Scott. You've been listening to another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, senior elections correspondent at the Federalist. We' back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray.
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I heard the faint voice of reason and then it faded away.