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‘The Kylee Cast’ feat. Evie Solheim, Ep. 34: How To Do It All Without #Girlbossing
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On this episode of “The Kylee Cast,” Evie Solheim, freelance journalist, Christian mom, and director of the brand new Chesterton Media Fellowship at New Guard Press, joins Federalist Managing Editor Kylee Griswold to discuss Gen Z finding its voice in...
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Kylie Griswold
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Evie Solheim
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Kylie Griswold
Hi everybody and welcome to the kyliecast. I'm Kylie Griswold, Managing Editor at the Federalist. Please like and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. We have a channel specifically for the Kylie cast on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. So if you are only subscribed to the Federalist Radio Hour or you're wrong with Molly Hemingway and David Harsanyi, two of our other great Federalist podcasts, be sure to subscribe to the Kylie cast as well so you never miss an episode. Leave us a five star review. It's one of the easiest and best ways you can help out the show. And even better yet, if you're just listening to the show, go check out the full video version on my personal YouTube channel or the Federalists Channel channel on Rumble and then of course like and subscribe there too. If you'd like to email the show, you can do so at radio@the federalist.com I would love to hear from you today. I have a really fun interview for you with my friend Evie Solheim. Evie is a Christian wife and mother and freelance journalist, but she is also the new director of the brand new Chesterton Media Fellowship at New Guard Press. New Guard Press is an awesome online magazine of young professionals who seek to provide thoughtful and insightful commentary on some of the highest order things and how those things relate to our current cultural moment. My conversation with Evie really runs the gamut. We talk about her new gig and her other writing work as well as marriage and motherhood and relationships. And of course her latest Thrift finds what she's reading these days and and how crunchy and devoted to Maha she really is. All of that and more on the Kylie cast. Yvie Solheim, it is so great to have you on the Kylie cast.
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Evie Solheim
It's good to be here.
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Kylie Griswold
Thank you so much for joining me. It's so funny to even say your name as that because even though I've seen it a million times, I didn't know you as Evie Solheim. I knew you as Evie Fordham.
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Evie Solheim
And yeah, I remember when you were kz, not kg.
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Kylie Griswold
So yeah, yep. Oh how things change. We were just reminiscing before we started recording that. We've known each other for a handful of years now, but I really don't remember even how I met you. You've just kind of always been a presence in my professional life. So, so fun to have you on the podcast.
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Evie Solheim
Oh, my goodness. So in a good way, I hope.
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Kylie Griswold
In the best way. In the best way. Yeah. It's just this, like, fixture. You are a fixture of D.C. and OF. Yeah, everything great about conservative media. So which, speaking of, you have a new gig. You are now the director of the Chesterton Media Fellowship at New Guard Press. So we're going to get into that in just a second because that's big news. But for people who you are not a fixture in their life, why don't you just tell listeners kind of who you are, where you come from, and how you got to where you are now?
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Evie Solheim
Yes. I'll keep it as short as I can, but, yeah, I'm a North Carolina native. I went to Patrick Henry College, which many people may not have heard of. Many people may have, but I studied journalism there, and that's what I wanted to do. I did some time in local news. I even did a stint interning at the Federalist. And I really did love working in breaking news and politics and just kind of cutting my teeth and getting to just know the characters in politics. Right. Politics and business and media and all of that. But it was really fun to kind of, you know, start my family, move a little further out from D.C. and kind of get to play with freelancing and get to play with, you know, editing and kind of become kind of an informal connector in, like, the D.C. or slash conservative media movement, which has been really fun. And, you know, people always have opinions on being a mom and career, and I feel like it's different for everybody. But. But a really fun thing about freelancing after becoming a mom is like, I've had so many topics inspired by being a mom. So even one of my favorite pieces I've gotten to do was I interviewed people who had illegally attended home births in my home state. Cause they have pretty strict laws on that. And it's just like, people are willing to talk to you and, you know, maybe their name's not on the record, but it was a really interesting piece, and people seem to get a lot out of it. But, yeah, that's what I'm up to. I have a newsletter about politics and pop culture called the Girl's Guide. And. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also happy to answer questions about my new gig with New Guard Press.
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Kylie Griswold
Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about your new gig with New Guard. So it's called the gk, The Chesterton Media Fellowship. What exactly is it?
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Evie Solheim
Yes. Oh, my goodness. Well, and this is something I feel like you can relate to. Cause you've been in media for a while, but we all remember our days starting out. It's really hard to get your foot in the door and you know, you are young and, and you don't necessarily have a mile of clips and links to speak for you. So really, Dugard Press, I've been watching them for a while and I really appreciate that they are kind of that stepping stone for up and coming writers and up and coming journalists. They want to publish young people. They want to let them get into topics that matter. And so I was just keeping an eye on them and, you know, thinking they seemed really cool. I had editor in chief Libby Krieger on my newsletter. I talked to her just about life and tips for interns and things like that and just kind of kept up with them. And then I'll shout out Intercollegiate Studies Institute, because I love them and they had a big role in my coming to journalism. They had a big role and I think, you know, New Guard Press and our founder, Bradley Haley, you know, getting their feet under them. But I'll shout out ISI because it just happened to be at their last, like in person event in D.C. that I get to connect with Bradley. And we're like, oh, we, we agree on a lot of things. I have a skill set they're looking for. I really have a heart for. You know, I just love helping people kind of level up their writing and kind of feel empowered. Like, okay, I have a story. How do I want to tell it? And that's something I literally do in my free time. So I was like, oh, well, twist my arm, why don't you? I'd love to come help run this fellowship. And it's going to be really small. We're going to be helping some students and recent grads play saw beds for six months. And they will get, you know, a stipend and they'll have the support of New Guard Press, you know, boosting their articles. They'll have me to help them kind of build their brand. I'll be interested to hear what you think because obviously you and I came up in the digital journalism age, but a huge part of helping train writers and commentators is just getting them comfortable putting themselves out there. Not just as words on a page, but as a personality, as a social media presence. So that's also going to be part of it. Yeah.
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Kylie Griswold
Yeah. One thing that I think is really interesting about New Guard Press is that it's essentially like by Gen Z for Gen Z. I mean, not, not completely of Course, it has some millennial flavor in there too. And it's not just for Gen Z. Like, this is for anyone.
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Evie Solheim
We don't age, discriminate. Right, right, we don't age, discriminate. But no, you're hitting the nail on the head. But yeah, yeah, like so sorry.
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Kylie Griswold
No, I, I just, I think it's cool because I think so much of the content that Gen Z consumes is digital now. And mostly not digital writing, sadly. A lot of it is digital clips. You know, they're on TikTok, they're watching like reels, it's the, the doom scroll or like the, the endless, the infinite scroll of video content. And so a lot of people are getting their news, their culture content. Like really so much of what they're absorbing is in that kind of short form video format. And so it's so refreshing and helpful, I think, for Gen Z writers not only to have a good place to work on cultivating their writing about topics that really matter, which I would love to hear more about the topics that New Guard Press covers because it's not a news website, it's like an online magazine, but also to have a better way for them to consume content like that. And of course we do a lot of that at the Federalist too. But there's still a place for long form culture writing. You know, long form journalism that's not just quick sound bites because of course that's what's easy to package. But, but we need to be good readers if we want to be good writers. And I think New Guard Press is a great platform for people to consume good content like that.
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Evie Solheim
Yes, yes. And one thing, you know, maybe I'll trademark this when I get time, but you are who you reference and who are your references. And I love the references that the writers at New Guard Press bring up. They are thinking deeply, they are reading deeply. And so even just the Chesterton Media Fellowship, you know, I remember first being introduced to G.K. chesterton through like probably Father Brown stories, reading some excerpts of orthodoxy and I think middle school, which is young, but you're, you can think about those topics, you know, and so Bradley is, is a super fan of GK Chesterton. And you know, that name was kind of in his mind. And I was like, oh, I think it's good, I think it's good. You know, our tagline is cultivating swordsmanship of the pen. Because I have this feeling that there are so many good writers or thinkers out there, but I feel like there's this disconnect of Sometimes the most thoughtful and the most well read people are also the most humble and circumspect. And they're the ones who are going to be the last to jump into the fray to say, hey, I've figured it out. Not even that. You have to have everything figured out. But I really love that New Guard Press is not trying to be like, we're going to have a response to every news item that happens, you know, 24, 7 in 24 hours. It's letting kids think a little more deeply, letting them pull out of that like rapid fire news cycle that can get you in trouble. But then through the fellowship, I'm going to train them to kind of be comfortable with the pieces where you sit and you think about the topic and okay, let's figure out what our comfort zone is when we do have to have that 24 hour turnaround of like, what are our thoughts on this? What does scripture say? What does the lessons of history say? You know, things like that. So you are who you reference. And the kids who are writing at New Garden Press are so smart, they're bringing up great references. You know, they're throwing in Nietzsche, they're throwing in Thucydides. They're like, you know, they have deeply thought through, like theological, theological topics, you know, more than me. I'm going to learn from them. But yeah, it was just really, really exciting, a really exciting project that I'm happy.
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Kylie Griswold
Well, and I think it's, it can be hard for young writers too because in some ways you need to get comfortable finding your voice. And I'm curious even how that transition was for you because I know you were more on the news side of things and then transitioned to writing more of your own opinion, which can be a hard thing to transition to and from. But a lot of young writers, it's like you're trying to break through, you have these ideas, you're trying to learn to communicate them in a way that's compelling and persuasive. But in, in many avenues or many like realms of policy and stuff, you have not earned your opinion yet, if that makes sense. Like nobody's going to listen to, nor, nor really should anyone necessarily listen to, you know, a 19 year old's hot take on like the Iran war or some other foreign policy thing. But that doesn't mean that you can't have a really thoughtful, biblical, biblically based take on one of the Oscar nominees or like some other piece of cultural significance where it's not, it's not like a, a super niche policy arena where you need to have gone to law school or you need, you need to have a really longer form, depth of understanding than just, you know, coming of age in the 2000s and then having hot takes about foreign policy or something like that. But there's so many other topics and other realms where young writers need to be able to practice communicating these ideas, where they absolutely have earned the right to, to bring a biblical worldview to a topic like this.
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Evie Solheim
So yeah, yeah, well, even one thing is, I mean, I'm Gen Z, I'm an elder zoomer. I'm an elder Zoomer 97, but I'm Gen Z. And so people a lot of times seem to speak for Gen Z or generalize about Gen Z. And so empowering Gen Z writers I think is important. Not that then they're going to say, oh, I alone speak for my generation. But we've noticed that there's even just a huge disconnect in how big tech is regulated and how much big tech affects teens and young people. And it's like, well, our people who are regulating it, or our lawmakers, they don't have the lived experience of a 21 year old. You know, they might read, I've read some really great op eds from people who are under 20, just kind of talking about, you know, how they found porn or how they were affected by cyberbullying things like this. And so it's not that, you know, oh, you're young and you're affected, you choose how it goes. But you're a piece of the puzzle. You deserve to have a voice. We need to, we need your puzzle piece to figure this out. You know, good lawmakers want to know, how is Gen Z really living digitally being affected by our digital world and social media and big tech and things like that. Can you tell that's a topic on my mind? We can talk about that later. But, but no, I think what you said is so true. You know, if you're 19, you haven't most likely gone through all of law school yet and you're like, oh, I've decided exactly what's right and wrong with the constitution. Like that's, that's not probably, probably nobody, nobody solely can speak to that, you know, to, to something that huge. But yeah, I want them to feel like, okay, I'm gonna take my little slice of what I know. It's a combination of what I've learned, my experience, you know, what I know through God's, you know, natural law revealed things like that. And they do have things to Say, because, yeah, it was for me. I, you know, I pretty much came out of the womb wanting to be a journalist. My parents will say I ran a neighborhood newspaper. I had so much fun and I worked in local news, but it was very much, you know, your typical straight news format. A lead that's all tangible, you know, tangible things. This store opened on Friday at the corner of 6th and Maple.
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Kylie Griswold
You know, the owner, all the W's. Who, what, when, where. Yes, exactly.
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Evie Solheim
And so that was like my job was to who, what, when, where, and, you know, it progressed to where I was doing things like interviewing Rudy Giuliani. Interviewing
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
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Dan Morgan
Hey. How's it going today?
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Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
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Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
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Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.
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Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
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Kylie Griswold
Awesome.
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Podcast Host
So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
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Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
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Evie Solheim
Wow.
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Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
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Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
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Evie Solheim
Representative ISSA it's interesting. We have Joe Kent is in the news, and I remember profiling him when he was first running for Congress at Fox. So it's like I get to talk to all the most interesting people who are going to continue making news. But I'm not inserting my opinion. You know, an interesting thing is people talking about, you know, there's bias even in what you choose to cover. And I totally agree. You know, I'm covering what I think is interesting and what I think is worthy for, you know, it was the Daily Caller audience, then it was the Fox audience, and then now it's, you know, multiple outlets that I write for as a freelancer. But yeah, the switch into opinion and analysis was hard for me because I was very much trained of just the facts.
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Kylie Griswold
Yes.
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Evie Solheim
But I'll be interested to hear what you think. Kind of something that was rolling around in my mind by the time I was ready to transfer into more of like, opinion and analysis in addition to straight news was just like, if it's called commentary, to use someone's actual biological pronouns, like if you're covering a transgender story, if that's considered ideological or a form of commentary, then I guess I'm a commentator, even though I've identified as straight news my whole life.
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Kylie Griswold
Right.
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Evie Solheim
Like, I'm going to call someone who is a born a man and then decides he's a woman to get less of a prison sentence. Like the weird stuff happening in the uk, I'm going to call him a he, you know, and if that makes me an ideological commentator, so be it.
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Kylie Griswold
Right.
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Evie Solheim
I'm staying grounded in truth. Labels can change.
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Kylie Griswold
I don't.
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Evie Solheim
I don't know. I'd be interested what you think about that.
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Kylie Griswold
Yeah, I mean, we're all commentators now, right? If that's the standard, you know, and I read the New York Times and I read the Washington Post and even now, you know, increasingly the Wall Street Journal and other papers. And it absolutely, it absolutely is commentary. Any. Most of what's coming out of the straight news side of these publications is commentary. And you can tell based on where they put the information that's most important. Is it at the top or is it at the bottom? What kind of pronouns do they use? How do they characterize things? You can tell in the headline, you can tell in the subheads. You can tell, you know, throughout the article. And so I think, like, you know, it's not that there does not exist straight news anymore, because I'm sure you can find it if you really look for it. But I think it's become more siloed by what seems set of facts do you operate under? Because we're really living in two different worlds, you know, a world where men are men and women are women, or men can become women and women can become men. And that's. That seems like that's a pretty low bar for whether you're operating within the realm of truth. But sadly, most of the corporate legacy press is not operating under reality. And so of course, yeah, we are. We are commentators as well, no matter. No matter what we do. I guess I've always kind of been on the commentary side of things because I have been at the Federalist so long, I never was a straight news or breaking news reporter. And I started More on the, on the editorial side of things. I've always been more interested in taking other people's work and making it better than I have been in, you know, doing who, what, when, where type journalism. Although, of course, that's super important. I see the value of it. I'm just not wired that direction as much as I am taking other people's work and punching it up. But. But yeah, I love how you were able to make that transition from news to commentary, and now how that can help inform how you help the New Guard fellows to help make their work better and give them a voice because you did such a good job finding yours. So let's, yes, let's move away a little bit from the, like, strictly journalism side of things because you're not just a director of the Chesterton Media Fellowship, you are also a Christian. Wife, mom, substacker, freelancer, all the rest. So let's dive into some of those topics. I would love if you could just share a little bit about how you personally became a Christian.
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Evie Solheim
Yeah, no, that's a great. That's a great question. For me, a lot of it is just kind of growing up in the church and kind of actually growing up in a more liturgical tradition and now kind of having my husband and I have kind of returned to a more liturgical tradition. So I actually grew up in the Methodist Church. Church. And all my family has been Methodist, which is interesting now that there's like, the schism. And I actually haven't even kept up with it that much because most of my family was. Was not Methodist by that point. But, you know, just kind of grew up in the church and just being really fascinated by, like, you know, the sacraments and being really fascinated by, like. I think I'm weird. I like the Old Testament more than the New Testament. Like, I just love, like, reading, like, Old Testament. I was that kid who was like, I want to read my Bible, like, cover to cover every year. And I wish I still had that energy. I need that energy back. I'm on like, a one proverb a day energy, and I'm like, keep me from being the fool, Lord. But oh, my goodness. But I mean, that was just. I was really lucky that, you know, I had parents who took me to church and, you know, grew up in a, you know, in a tradition where you're, you're born again. So I think I asked Jesus into my heart when I was like, five. But, you know, I was just a kid who loved to read, and I loved to read the Bible, which I did Not. Did I understand what was going on in Revelation when I was 10? No, I did not understand. But I have seen some really interesting stuff from people kind of pushing back against, oh, you have to find the perfectly calibrated, like, book or, you know, if you're being more specific, like. Like, Bible book or theology. Like, theology book for your kids. No, let them read stuff they don't fully understand because it's been a joy to kind of return to things, you know, with my kids. That's been an amazing part of being somebody who's, you know, lucky enough to be raised by Christian parents. Now I'm raising my kids. It's like, we read our little illustrated Bible, and then somehow it always. Something we read in there is lining up with whatever we're doing at church, which is always so fun. But we're reading their little Bible, and it's like, I'm able to get something out of that, you know? So I think it's really beautiful, and I'm really grateful. We're in. I think we're in First Samuel right now, my kids and I. So it's all the. Like, the book I'm reading with them, it's like a completely sanitized version of David and Goliath we just read. And I'm, like, surprised they even used the word. Like, Goliath died. And my kids are both like, good story. And I'm like, y' all don't have any questions? And they're like, no. Good night. So it's. It's fun, but, yeah, just. Just really, really blessed in that way.
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Kylie Griswold
So cool to get to see the Bible through their eyes, you know, because it's been so long since we saw the Bible that way. So very cool to get to relive
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Evie Solheim
it through, even if the illustrations are not super historically accurate. You know what? They're cute. We're going with it. I don't know if they were wearing, like, red, purple, and bright blue. I don't know if they were vegetables. That's a whole nother topic. But anyways. Yeah.
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Kylie Griswold
But hey, if we're getting to the capital T truth, then the wardrobe is of secondary importance there.
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Evie Solheim
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
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Kylie Griswold
So how did you meet your husband? Nick?
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Evie Solheim
Yes. Oh, my goodness. Well, Politico already scooped you on this, I'm so sorry to say. No, I messed it. Nick. My husband Nick was profiled in Politico a while back, and they threw in a detail about how we met, but, you know, this was pre Covid. Do you remember D.C. pre Covid.
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Kylie Griswold
Yeah.
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Evie Solheim
What A time to be alive. Just having fun, meeting people. You're allowed to go places anyways.
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Kylie Griswold
We had the best time in D.C. pre Covid. Yes.
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Evie Solheim
Yeah. Oh, my goodness. There was so much fun stuff to do. Do I think it's a really fun city to live in when you're young. I really do think that there's so much cool stuff to do. I would just go to museums by myself. Not often enough, but I just do it, you know.
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Kylie Griswold
There was so much to do. I was never bored.
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Evie Solheim
So much to do. Never bored. Yeah. If you're bored, that's your own fault in dc. But yes. So there was just a Twitter group chat back when it was called Twitter. And I think you and I were both in it. My husband was in it. It was just huge. And people would basically plan, like, get togethers, which were mainly trivia. So we met in, like 2019, you know, to play trivia. Just this big group of kids. We'd all descend on this one bar. I checked. The bar is now defunct. It closed during COVID But we would all descend on the bar and play trivia. And I was into it. I'm obsessed with trivia. I was like, I'm going to win. And my husband was just there to see me. So he actually wouldn't even stick around for trivia. He would just hang out and then he would leave. And I was like, we need you. We need your baseball knowledge. Because that's like my one weakness now. I don't know anything about baseball. But it was. Yeah, it was a good time. And so it's just kind of a low pressure way to get to know each other and all that kind of good stuff. And by the time Covid happened and we realized, like, oh, we actually really like each other, like, we want to see each other again. We don't want to be social distancing from each other for the rest of our lives. You know, it was. It was. It was really good. But I really loved the. The friends aspect of it that we had. And maybe this is terrible of me to say because we were just friends. We didn't date for six to eight months. If I'm, like, ever speaking to, like, some interns or something, I'll be like, don't worry. Or. No, I'll say, I'll say. I'll say, I'm so sorry to tell you, but you may have already met your future husband. You don't. Just don't know it yet. And normally they're like, ew, no. The boys in our intern Class are gross. And I'm like, okay, well, you never know.
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Kylie Griswold
Hey, it's true. That's how some of the best relationships are forged, I think, is just with that friendship that just turns into something a little more than that. So. Yeah, good stuff. And was Nick a Christian before you guys met as well?
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Evie Solheim
Yes. So, yeah, I mean, that's a huge part of his story, is he's a missionary kid, so I won't tell his whole story, but he didn't even. He didn't even spend his teenage years in the U.S. okay. So pretty much 10 to 18. Yeah, he was in Central America. And so normally I let him talk more about that, but I mean, that's a huge part of. Of who he is. And he has a great Spanish accent. People are. Their jaws drop when they hear his Spanish accent.
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Kylie Griswold
That's crazy.
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Evie Solheim
But, yeah, so. So it was. It was really nice that that was also obviously a huge part of how we connected and going to church together and. And things like that. Me literally changing. I think I was. I was working Sundays at the time, but I would get off in time to go to an evening service at church. And then Covid happened, and churches just shrunk the amount of services they did. And I was like, oh, I literally have to quit my job. Like, I need to go to church on Sunday. So that happened. That was crazy. Quit your job, too?
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Kylie Griswold
Yeah. Is something that I still just can't even believe happened. I mean, what a crazy that was. And I wrote a lot about that,
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Evie Solheim
but it was just. There were just less people in the city, and they were like, we're just going to go down to our one service. And I was like, oh, I have to quit my job so I can go to church. But the Lord rewards you. That's all I'll say. The Lord rewards you. So very lucky I found another opportunity.
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Kylie Griswold
Yeah, it's the most important thing. So that has to. That has to fit in first. Yeah. Let's see. So what now you have two children. What is your favorite thing about being a mom?
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Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
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Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
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Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
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Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
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Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.
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Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badger and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
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Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan, what would I do if I got into an accident?
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Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
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Evie Solheim
Wow.
- [28:16]
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
- [28:21]
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit for the People.com for an office near you.
- [28:24]
Evie Solheim
Oh, my goodness.
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Kylie Griswold
And also, how did you, how did, how did your faith and your husband's faith affect your approach to, like, deciding to have children? And then how has that, how has that changed your life? What's your favorite thing about it? Just all the motherhood questions coming your way.
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Evie Solheim
Oh, my goodness. Well, another thing Nick and I will talk. We'll talk about. So very interesting. We've been asked to be, like, profiled by for, like, pronatalist stories and like, stuff like that, like, people trying to write about that. And I'm not even going to get into, like, that label. I like the label. I'm like, yeah, babies are great. You know, I know some things come with baggage. We're both like, we don't know how to convey how privileged we both are that we have parents who are still together and like, inculcated. Like, we are just, we're starting from such a, like a plus up, which is not to say if you don't start from that, that the Lord can't, you know, lead you, redeem you, all those kind of things. We just felt so blessed. I think the beautiful thing is I have so many friends who didn't have the advantage. Parents who were together or took them to church and they are discovering that with their spouse. And it's so beautiful. So I love it. But, you know, I think it's beautiful. Everybody's story is different, but we just feel so blessed. And we're like, not sure. We're like, we, we don't want to just sound smug and like, boss people around, like, do it our way or you're not doing it right. Like, we're just really blessed. You know, both our kids have grandparents who we completely trust to love them and lead them and nurture them. And it is, you know, the longer you live, you realize that's rare and that's A huge blessing. So anyways, I get emotional very easily, but so we've just been really blessed. And you know, I've got a three year old daughter named Margot and I've got an 18 month old son named Sawyer. So I still consider myself very much like a beginner mother. If you even notice in my writing, I don't write a ton. I don't write a ton about motherhood. I don't give a lot of advice. I'll write about my experience. I'll be like, hey. So I learned that in order to interview people for my straight news stories, sometimes I have to say, hey, there'll be a baby on this call. And guess what? They're actually chill with it. So that was actually like a whole column I wrote called is it okay if my baby joins this call? Luckily I was reported that I wrote this around the time I was reporting something that had to do a lot with like maternal fetal medicine. So I was literally like getting on zoom with like people whose whole jobs are like keeping moms and babies healthy. And they're like a baby. I love babies. Hi, dude. You know, so it's just like, you know, you pick, you pick your topics too and it's like you're talking to somebody who's like, all I do is think about how much I love taking care of babies. And you're like, okay, great. That was just a fun experience I had where you're talking to people who are important professionals, but they also share, share this love and they're pro family and right and stuff like that. So we have fun.
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Kylie Griswold
But it's so awesome too to be able to do the type of work that you're passionate about while also being a mom, because so many women don't have that luxury. You know, if you work a very, it takes a very particular type of job where you can freelance or work remote or whatever to be able to balance those things. And I know it's really difficult for a lot of women who, you know, want to, want to be there as much as they can for their children. They don't, they don't want to just dump their kids off at daycare and you know, and, and go to work to then pay for said daycare. But you know, you and I are so privileged in that way of just being able to work jobs that we love from home that are so conducive to being working moms. And that is just so. Talk about being blessed. That is a huge, huge blessing that not everyone has. But I love that you're able to do both of those, both of those passions that you have at the same time. That's super.
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Evie Solheim
Yeah, I think that's a huge miss or not miss disconnect in the mommy wars is people like, if there's just a certain subset of jobs that, that are flexible, there's a certain subset that are not. And it's like people just start talking past each other about these things, you know, so anyways, we don't have to go off on that tangent. But yeah, there's just such a huge variety and it's. It is a blessing. Yeah. To have a job that, that can literally. I get books sent to my house and I read them and I say, good or bad, I do this and then somebody pays me for my opinion. Like, yeah, I'm kind of living the dream.
- [32:54]
Kylie Griswold
What a perfect gig. What a perfect gig.
- [32:56]
Evie Solheim
12 year old Evie would have been like, you. You email. You can do that. Collins, you just cold emailed them from the email account we have now as a 12 year old. Yes, I did do that. And I do do that. I've used the same gmail for like 20 years. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Like, coming up on 20 years help. Probably more like 15. 15 years. But yeah, do as I say, not as I do. I have a very unprofessional email account and I'm like, hello, person who does this is a true story publicity for Donna Tartt. Please, please do this. You know, it's just like crazy.
- [33:33]
Kylie Griswold
Crazy. Oh, my word. But anyways, yeah, so I just had an interview with Brad Wilcox from the Institute for Family Studies, and we talked about some new research that's out regarding the dating landscape. And so I just want to ask you about this because we just talked about your dating experience and now becoming a mom, but we talked about the number of young people. I think it's the. The range was 22 to 35. So you're looking at young millennials or older Gen Z. That's kind of the cohort we're looking at here. So we would fall into that bucket. And many also of the writers at New Guard Press and elsewhere, where the majority of them actually are seeking meaningful relationships, deep, intimate relationships, not hookup culture, not, you know, swipe left, swipe right. They like, they want to find a spouse and settle down, but they're having a really hard time doing that because the numbers of people who want it versus the numbers of people who are doing it successfully. The math ain't mathing. They do not align.
- [34:39]
Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here On the podcast. Say hi, Dan.
- [34:42]
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
- [34:43]
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
- [34:46]
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
- [34:52]
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.
- [35:01]
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
- [35:13]
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
- [35:19]
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
- [35:28]
Evie Solheim
Wow.
- [35:29]
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
- [35:33]
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
- [35:37]
Kylie Griswold
And so what piece of advice would you have for young women or young men who do want this really good thing of finding a spouse who shares their worldview, shares their faith, and possibly having children, but hasn't quite found that yet.
- [35:53]
Evie Solheim
So I wrote an opinion piece for Newsweek years ago called Gen Z Wants to Slow down Dating or something like that. I don't remember what they named it or I might have named it. I don't remember. I'll have to look. But so I was. I was just kind of writing about, like, is the dating landscape that we kind of have nostalgia for in the US like, is it gone? And the answer is yes. I think I started out quoting. There's like this tweet that's like, when you're a married millennial looking at the dating scene, realizing you caught the lost chopper out of Nam, and it's like, yeah, it's that serious. So, like, if somebody's isn't that funny and also sad, like, if someone's feeling discouraged, you know, it's probably not. You probably are having. You probably are having a natural reaction to the way dating and marriage is being treated right now and how it's being approached. Like, you're probably having a natural reaction. The good thing is there are good people and there are things you can do to maximize your chances. Like, I find people talking about the economics of dating or the economics of marriage. I find all of that really interesting. But it's like when you're going to come down to your individual self and your individual journey. Like, I sound so cliche. I've written, I've written this in a column before, but I'm like, God writes the story. Like, God writes the story. I hate that people put numbers on people and, you know, you know, try to just reduce everyone down to like these very material or very tangible attributes they have, because that's just really not what love is about. And, and obviously the most important thing is finding someone of character. So. So anyways, I feel like a lot of the ways that we talk about and analyze dating are really interesting on the aggregate. But if you're going to try to kind of forge a path for yourself, like, you just have to remember that God writes the story. Like you're not like a set of numbers that like, predetermine who you're allowed to date or marry or who you'll. That's just silly, right? That's so silly.
- [38:00]
Kylie Griswold
You are not a statistic.
- [38:02]
Evie Solheim
You are not a statistic. You are an individual.
- [38:04]
Kylie Griswold
It's true.
- [38:04]
Evie Solheim
Yeah. So it's, it's so interesting to me. And, and I'll actually be writing a little bit about that in an upcoming piece.
- [38:11]
Kylie Griswold
Awesome.
- [38:13]
Evie Solheim
Yeah, I think it's just important. I'll shout out a friend of mine, Steve Kapoorska, he just published a piece with Daily Wire about getting himself just out there, just making friends, just meeting people. Because we've created a world where a lot of people, if you're young and Gen Z and you live in a city, you could, you, you can do, you know, doordash, you can do self checkout, you can, you know, feel like you're talking to people because you're watching YouTube on your phone while you eat dinner. You know, we've created a world where people don't need other people. And so I really appreciated his recent piece about like getting out of the. I think it's getting out of the loneliness epidemic or something. But just talking about, you've just got to get out, you've just got to go do stuff, you know, and so I appreciated that. I'm trying to think.
- [39:01]
Kylie Griswold
Yeah, well, I mean, your story, like your story of meeting and dating and marrying your husband is similar to mine. And I know it's similar to a lot of other people's too. And it, it really does rely on communities of friends who connect, who connect other friends. And it's like, not that they're. I also know a lot of People who have met their spouses, met people of, like, faith and character on dating apps. Like, there are other ways. There are good ways to meet people. And not every formula works the same for every couple. Just because you had success on a dating app doesn't mean that somebody else is going to or vice versa. But it really is so helpful to be in a community of people, especially when there are a lot of singles in the same group, because just because a friend of yours that's in the group might not be a good partner for you, you might bring in one of your girlfriends who that is a good partner for. And now this person is pre vetted, you know, and I see that happen all of the time. I. My friend group, where I live now, it was a lot of my college friends. And then when I moved out to D.C. for a few years before COVID shut that down, which in hindsight, thank God. I mean, it was such a fun time. But I'm also so happy with how he led me out of there. But during the time that I was out of the friend group, because I was in Washington with a new friend group, there was this boy that got added to the friend group and he wasn't a good match for the girls that were in the friend group at the time. But when I came back, it was like, wow, this is perfect. Like, this is a match made in heaven. Here we are. This is great. And now I have this pre vetted person, you know, and I think it's very similar to the Twitter group, the group chat, and you and Nick meeting where, you know, you never know who the right. The right combo of people is going to be. But it requires you to be in groups of people in real life, making friends, mingling and introducing new people to the group constantly. So that, you know, you introduce a friend to a friend and you just, you just never know. I think we need to bring back matchmaking, so. And dating people who are your friends. I love that. I love that piece of advice that you give your interns about maybe you've already met the one maybe you've already met.
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Evie Solheim
Yeah. So sorry to ruin it for you. So sorry to tell you. Yeah. And that even reminds me, I wrote a girl's guide, so the Girls Guide, my sub stack, which I'll. I'll share. I'll explain how people can find it later. But yes, I was going to get
- [41:22]
Kylie Griswold
to that next, actually, so go off.
- [41:24]
Evie Solheim
Sometimes I write girls guides for the men because we have a very. It's a group of elite, elite male readers in the Girls Guide, and only I know who they are because I'm in the dashboard. But there's some elite male readers. And so I wrote kind of a piece. I kind of. I made a sports analogy. So I was like, okay, this is for the dudes.
- [41:44]
Kylie Griswold
This is for them.
- [41:45]
Evie Solheim
This is for the dudes. This is for them. And I did get some good feedback, but it's called be a generalist, not a specialist. You know, if you really are a young man or a young woman who's like, hey, I. I just not. I need to find my future spouse tomorrow. But if I want to marry somebody, I need to get comfortable dating, and I need to get comfortable, you know, operating with the opposite sex, you know, and chatting and, you know, extending invitations and having, you know, mixed group, you know, hangouts. So I wrote. I don't even remember what all my bullet points were, but, you know, be. Be a generalist. You know, I was talking about some different athletes who ended up being great at one sport, which I think could be the analog for marriage, but they played a lot of different sports that strengthened them in a lot of different ways before they got into their main sport. And so I'm like, don't be like, the only way I'm going to meet my woman is on hinge, or the only way I'm going to meet my woman is Friday night at the bar. Like, you need to be more wide ranging. Another one of my points, I think was, you know, there's so many famous sports meltdowns, like, videos of famous sports meltdowns when they, like, miss the catch or, like, they miss the, like, buzzer beater. Like, don't do that. Like, don't do that. If things don't go your way in the game of dating, which I hate to call it, you know, if things don't go your way, you know, you just got to pick yourself back up, dust yourself off. The best athletes are like, you know what? I'm gonna train harder, and I'm gonna get back out there.
- [43:15]
Kylie Griswold
So, you know, which is interesting, too, because in the IFS data that I was just talking about, that I talked to Brad Wilcox about, one of the main reasons why young people were not dating was that they reported not being able to bounce back from a failed relationship. So that's such great advice of just, you know, you only need to meet the one, which means any other dating you do will actually be unsuccessful. Like, you will likely have far more failures than you will have successes unless you, you know, get a hole in one and that's that, you know, but like, it's actually okay. And it's a good thing to have a failed relationship because that just means you. You're not with the one. Like, you gotta. You gotta find the next one. So you have to be able to dust yourself back, pick yourself up, dust yourself off and. And move on and not let one failure. But even that is the wrong word because it's not a failure to. To have a relationship not work out. To have to just move on to the.
- [44:14]
Evie Solheim
Just a breakup. A breakup isn't the breakup for sure. For sure. Especially if you're somebody. Just because you have to remind me, were you. Were you Hillsdale? Where'd you go?
- [44:24]
Kylie Griswold
I was not Hillsdale. No, I wish I were Hillsdale because we met after.
- [44:28]
Evie Solheim
Okay. Because I went to a tiny Christian college and I feel like every few years the dating culture there would change. But it was pretty. Basically the dating culture was like, you would be friends for a while and then you date, which I think does have a lot of merit. The joke was that a lot of times if a girl and a guy. Because it was a. It was a pre law school, so everybody was in moot court and mock trial except for me. I was running the school newspaper. I was running around, I was interviewing the boys I thought was cute. That's a whole nother tactic. But anyways, the joke was like, if a guy and a girl got paired together for moot court, they were going to date. Because there's something about, like having a shared purpose and spending time together and seeing each other's book. It's like, that does bring out those feelings. It's very interesting, right? But yeah, dating culture at tiny Christian colleges is like a whole. I'll write a whole book on it.
- [45:21]
Kylie Griswold
Yeah. Yeah, I could do the same.
- [45:23]
Evie Solheim
God's Harvard. I'll write it.
- [45:26]
Kylie Griswold
Such a weird subculture. Yes. Yes.
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Evie Solheim
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Evie Solheim
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- [46:11]
Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
- [46:14]
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today day?
- [46:15]
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
- [46:18]
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
- [46:25]
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.
- [46:33]
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north. Probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
- [46:46]
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
- [46:51]
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
- [47:01]
Evie Solheim
Wow.
- [47:01]
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
- [47:06]
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an offer office near you.
- [47:09]
Kylie Griswold
Okay, so everybody should go subscribe to the Girl's Guide because it's a great, great read. Is it still on a bi weekly basis?
- [47:17]
Evie Solheim
Yes, bi weekly. I think I'll have one out this Friday. Just kind of, you know, making sure I share the news about the Chesterton Media Fellowship with all my substack readers. Awesome.
- [47:27]
Kylie Griswold
It's one of my favorite things I get in my inbox. So everybody really should subscribe to the Girls Guide. Well worth the read. There's lots of interesting, good, good stuff in there. How did that start? Because originally the Girls Guide to dc, which was also super fun. So how did that come to be?
- [47:42]
Evie Solheim
There's been a whole evolution. I mean, basically I was working at a corporate news site and I was like, you know, I don't think working in breaking news is going to be my forever. I really love fashion. I love pop culture. I love film. I am also interested in politics. You know, that was my day to day. But I was like, it would be so fun to start something that kind of like melded all of this. And I, and I enjoy humor. You know, not every, not everyone in my family thinks I'm funny. Not all of them will laugh, but sometimes I get a pity laugh. So I also enjoy, like kind of riffing on the news, things like that. So I was like, oh, my goodness, like, the title just came to me. The Girly girl's guide to D.C. which even people didn't realize. Girly Girl was tongue in cheek. Because I'm like, I just learned how to put on eyeliner. Like, I'm not that girl. Like, I love. I love girly things. But I wouldn't say I identify as, like, a super girly girl or, like, glam or whatever. But anyway, so I titled it the Girly girls guide to D.C. i had multiple women inform me that they weren't girly girls. They couldn't read it. And I was like, oh, you don't get it. Okay, I'll change the name. And I was living in D.C. at the time. I was still single and stuff. I was not married. And so I changed it to the girls guide to D.C. and, yeah, the fun thing was, you know, a big part of what I do is every newsletter has an interview with an interesting woman. And my criteria for picking her is my one criterion is probably just what I want my little sister to take advice from her. Like, that's my one criterion. So at this point, it's now just the Girls Guide because I'm no longer in D.C. i'm not trying to, like, limit my news to a certain geography.
- [49:21]
Kylie Griswold
Right.
- [49:22]
Evie Solheim
We've got readers from all over. I've interviewed people from Australia, actually, but so just still keeping up those interviews with really interesting women who are good role models. I riff on news. Pretty much any pop culture news. You know, I'm covering Addison Rae, I'm covering Lana Del Rey. I'm covering everything. You know, I'm keeping up with that even though, you know, it's getting a little harder now that I don't know what six, seven means. I don't know what these words mean, but I'm doing my best. Pop culture's not for me anymore, but I'm trying to having fun with it. But yeah, just keep it on going. And I share my thoughts on just, you know, whatever I think people need to hear that week. But. But, yeah, thank you. I'm glad you still need it. I'm so appreciated.
- [50:11]
Kylie Griswold
I really do. I love it. Every time it's in my inbox on a Friday, I, like, open it in a tab to read as soon as I'm done with whatever work thing I'm working on. And it's just there's always something. I enjoy the interviews. There's always a lot of good pop culture stuff, but then also just. Just fun things about your hobbies, like thrifting and other things. Like, I'm always learning something. And I've. I've taken gift advice from it as well. There's often gift guides or, like, recommendations there. So really, really good stuff. And it's very clever. It's very witty. I love it. Even the titles that you come up with, I'm just like, go, Evie. It's, it's, it's super fun. So everybody should go subscribe to it.
- [50:47]
Evie Solheim
Thank you. Yes, I think you can find it. It's under my maiden name. If you look up the Girls Guide substack, I think you can find it. It's G I, R, L, apostrophe S. But it's Also, I think, ev.fordham.substack.com because it's still registered under my maiden name, which. That's a whole other rant I have, which is don't register things under your maiden name. If you're a writer, you have to change everything.
- [51:08]
Kylie Griswold
Yes.
- [51:09]
Evie Solheim
Do your middle name. Do something fun. Anyways. That's a whole nother rant.
- [51:12]
Kylie Griswold
It's the worst. Truly the worst. Yeah. I did actually look it up right before we. We hopped on and I. I googled it and it was the first thing that came up under the Girls Guide substack. So it should be pretty easy for people to find it. So. So let's talk about a little bit of your hobbies now. Just because I'd rather get into more. Some more fun stuff. Let's talk fashion. I would love to know how you discovered and developed your own style.
- [51:36]
Evie Solheim
Oh, my goodness. So first, I'm going to tell a really sad story, which is a reporter from a really major outlet reached out to talk to me about fashion recently, and I missed it because I don't check LinkedIn.
- [51:51]
Kylie Griswold
Oh, man.
- [51:51]
Evie Solheim
And I don't get notifications. LinkedIn is angry at me. For some reason, they think my email doesn't exist, and so I don't get noticed. And I was like, oh, no. I would have loved to talk to this reporter about, like, conservatives and fashion and, like, whatever the heck's happening there. So I'm so Sad. So check LinkedIn, guys. Check your LinkedIn messages.
- [52:09]
Kylie Griswold
I never check.
- [52:10]
Evie Solheim
Never know what's in there.
- [52:10]
Kylie Griswold
So that's.
- [52:11]
Evie Solheim
Check it. There could be some interesting stuff. I got it, like, a day after her deadline. I was like, no, sad. So sad. But, yeah, I'm somebody who, like. I mean, I grew up homeschooled. I was not a fashion plate. Like, the definition of not a fashion plate. But I almost think that's better that you're not immersed in, like, trends. Basically. My mom is somebody who's, like, pretty crafty she can sew. She'd, like, you know, sew us an outfit when we were little or, like, taught us how to sew. We would, like, sew really simple skirts, like, stuff like that. So I was somebody who just, like, I didn't really care about fitting in at school because all my friends were homeschooled and Lord knows what we were wearing. You know, I was just somebody who just, like, messed around. I liked vintage fashion. I really liked. I don't know if this was the case for you when you were growing up, but silver was in, gold was out.
- [53:04]
Kylie Griswold
And I was a gold girl.
- [53:05]
Evie Solheim
I was like, oh, I'm a gold girl. I'm a gold.
- [53:08]
Kylie Griswold
That is so, so funny.
- [53:09]
Evie Solheim
So I like very much was like,
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Kylie Griswold
I'm a gold girl.
- [53:14]
Evie Solheim
And now I'm like, reading articles. Are you gold or silver? I'm like, now I'm both. Because I don't have time to worry. I know matching.
- [53:21]
Kylie Griswold
I have to be both because my color, like, my tone is cool. So I really should be wearing silver. But gold is what's in. And my wedding ring is silver. Well, it's white gold, but I wear gold. And so I have to tie it all together with my watch, which is silver and gold.
- [53:37]
Evie Solheim
Oh, I like that. There you go.
- [53:38]
Kylie Griswold
We just make it all work. But I'm like, if I were really. If I were really going based on my under tones, it should be silver, but I just can't get rid of the gold earrings. I just. It's my favorite.
- [53:47]
Evie Solheim
No, I love them. I think they look great. They look. Oh, my gosh. I. I think a lot of those rules are a little too. It's like, if it. If it helps you kind of pull things together, that's great.
- [53:57]
Kylie Griswold
Also, if it brings you joy, if you like to look at it.
- [54:00]
Evie Solheim
Yes, it sparks joy. Oh, my goodness. Earrings spark joy. I love earrings. Shout out at Clara Jo, y' all look her up. But she's another gal who was in D.C. at one point and sells earrings, so I'm not wearing any today. I didn't want to clip with my AirPods.
- [54:16]
Kylie Griswold
But you're so thoughtful.
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Evie Solheim
You're thinking problem before, but normally if I'm doing a media appearance, I'd be wearing her earrings. But, yeah, no, I was just somebody who, like, I had, like, photo books of old Hollywood starlets, and it's like you're looking at how well made clothing was and how tailored it was and how fitted, and you see the quality of fabrics, and I was just like, I love this. Like, I Don't really know it or understand it or have it in my closet, but I love it. And so I was really attracted to just, like, learning more about fashion and stuff. Was I practicing it? Not really. I was thrifting and thinking I was and trying to find stuff that wasn't polyester. But the beautiful thing is, you know, I feel like there's still so much good stuff at thrift stores. Like, I always encourage people. I'm like, don't be grossed out. Even the grossest ones have some gems. And that's my favorite part is going to a really nasty, disorganized thrift store and being like, I found a gym. Look at this vintage, vintage top or this vintage. So just kind of like observing, because I think the downfall of fast fashion probably happened when you and I were, like, coming through. Probably as we were hitting our teenage years. It's like everything started to become, you know, you had fast fashion, like, at Target, and it was relatively quality. You know, the seams were in the right places. They didn't unravel immediately. And I feel like things have really fallen off. And it's really hard at a. At a normal price point to find quality stuff. I don't feel like I'm the only person saying that. But, you know, I think it's really interesting. There's so many places you can educate yourself online. You can learn more about materials, how to care for them, what materials you'll probably enjoy wearing, what materials will probably work with your lifestyle. Best kind of ways to. You don't have to learn how to become a seamstress or a tailor, but ways to spot if a garment is well made. Ways to just kind of accept, like, okay, like, maybe I love this trend, but I'm not gonna like a dress that hits me at X part of my leg. Like, I'm gonna want it shorter, I'm gonna want it longer. And just kind of accept that, like, you're just always going to be more comfortable or feel more confident in certain silhouettes. And even just the fact that you could take one dress and it looks horrible on you, you take it to a tailor and they just get everything to fit right. Like, our society has lost tailoring.
- [56:43]
Kylie Griswold
Yes.
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Evie Solheim
And that can be a huge mismatch in how people feel confident in their clothes. It's not your fault. Like, the clothes we wear are just, like, they're not made to make you look your best. They're not made to enhance and compress and hold in and accentuate. It's just kind of like, here's a fabric cylinder, you know, So I feel like women also get really discouraged because, you know, you could be handed two different dresses, and maybe they have the same label on the size, and they can make you feel two completely different ways about yourself because one is made to flatter you and, you know, move with you, and the other one is not. So I just encourage people to just kind of. There's just so many resources online. You can literally watch YouTube shorts about this and just kind of realize, like, oh, it's not my fault that I don't like walking in the store and feel confident in everything is that you really have to learn to be a curator. So, yes, it was rant over.
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Kylie Griswold
No, I love it.
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Evie Solheim
It's an interesting. It's such an interesting topic.
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Kylie Griswold
Do you still. So do you do much alteration on your own clothes or not?
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Evie Solheim
Not a ton. Because I'm such a. Because I'm such, like. I'll say it. I'm a thrifting addict. I'm basically like, if it. And I. I have. I wouldn't say I have an obscene amount of clothes, but I have a clothes collection. And so I'm pretty much. I know my measurements. I know that I'm going to be too lazy to take it over to my mom's and mess around with the sewing machine or take it to a. A tailor. I also. I've had to get some, like, bridesmaid stuff tailored recently, and I was not impressed. I'm like, why am I paying you as a. Like, I could have done this. What the heck? But so I'm at the point where I'm like, I'm just gonna buy stuff if it already fits me because I already have so much. But I think especially if you're in, like, any kind of a metro area, you can find a good tailor, and it will help you become much more confident because things will just be made to fit your body. Everybody's bodies are so different, and we have different, like, comfortability levels with, you know, the hemlines we like, the necklines we like, you know, and so I feel like there's been so many girls who are just finding cool materials and cool, like, kind of raw inspiration at thrift stores and taking dresses into tailors and getting things just made slightly different. I watched a video the other day, and a gal, like, just slightly changed a neckline, and it, like, changed the whole dress.
- [59:11]
Kylie Griswold
Yeah.
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Evie Solheim
And you're like, wow. And so not everybody's going to be able to develop. And I like that. But if you're able to find a good tailor or just kind of realize, like, let me lean into what really does make me feel confident. I feel like that's, that's a win win.
- [59:26]
Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
- [59:29]
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
- [59:30]
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
- [59:34]
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
- [59:40]
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion one. 20 billion is an insane number.
- [59:49]
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the, the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
- [60:01]
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
- [60:06]
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 247 365.
- [60:16]
Podcast Host
Wow. Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
- [60:21]
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an offer office near you.
- [60:25]
Kylie Griswold
Absolutely. This is a related topic, but not totally. On a scale of 1 to 10, how crunchy are you?
- [60:34]
Evie Solheim
Oh my goodness.
- [60:35]
Kylie Griswold
In the Maha, you know, era could have figured out.
- [60:38]
Evie Solheim
Okay, no, because even I love to write about Maha. That's been a really fun thing for me to write about. But I also appreciate the people and the commentators. I'll shout out, I'll shout out Laura Delano who wrote her memoir Unshrunk, which everybody should go read and, and she kind of exposes a lot of lies that we have been told and sold about the pharmaceutical industry. And she tells her own story, which is really raw and really real. But you know, we can't replace, you know, reliance on pharmaceutical industry with like, okay, we're, we're taking all of their advertisement and mass messaging and now we're taking like the self care industry, which I think crunchy world is a part of in some ways. And we're taking all of that messaging like you really have to, you know, understand where you are and what you can handle and what you can do. It's, it's been such an interesting world to be a part of. But yeah, I mean, crunchy levels. I had two Children at home, never given birth in a hospital. People think that's crunchy. I'm also the first person to say, probably part of its luck. I just kind of, like, knew a lot of women in my family were like, oh, like, I didn't. I literally had my child too fast to have an epidural. It was fine, you know, so I'm somebody who's like, I've never had an epidural also, maybe there'll be a time when I do want one. Like, let's just be open here. I've been blessed that, you know, both my children were born and we were healthy. And I honestly feel like I am a crazy person for doing that. And I think if you approach it as like, yeah, I am a crazy person, you know, you know, it kind of cuts down a lot of the, like, tension. So, yeah, had two kids at home. I've written about it. I've spoken on podcasts about it. You know, I've. It's. It's a topic I want to cover more. Just because people are really unhappy with hospital birth. Birth centers, I feel like, are great happy medium, but they're also, for a lot of people in a lot of areas or at a lot of price points, they're not super accessible.
- [62:50]
Kylie Griswold
Right.
- [62:51]
Evie Solheim
So that's another interesting thing.
- [62:52]
Kylie Griswold
Right.
- [62:53]
Evie Solheim
You know, even quality midwives that can be hard to be accessible. Depending on where you are, depending on what your budget is, you know, most likely your insurance isn't going to cover it. Right. So it's. It's tough. You know, I'm sure you're thinking through all these things and it's just, you know, interesting stuff. But, yeah, the crunchy, that probably puts me up here. The fact that I will ride through and hand my kids McDonald's fries to eat in their car seats that are both front facing, that probably puts me down here. The fact that I will not wear polyester probably puts me up here. But then it's because it's more of a sensory thing and not even like a. Like, I'm.
- [63:32]
Kylie Griswold
So that moves you back down?
- [63:33]
Evie Solheim
That moves me back down. Because it's purely sensory. It's not like I'm like, ah, the microplastics. I'm literally like, I am sweating. This doesn't look good on me. No. I've actually been so weird about polyester since I was a child.
- [63:46]
Kylie Griswold
That is how I ended up way ahead of the curve.
- [63:49]
Evie Solheim
I was ahead of the curve. I was like, mom, do not put me in that. I'm like, fibers. I'm like, don't put me in that fleece. I can't take it. But yeah, it's an interesting, it's an interesting world. And so crunchy world. I feel like crunchy world. I am a big fan of Alex Clark. I think a lot of her podcasts are really informative and I think kind of her messaging so helpful. I think a lot of her messaging about Maha as a voting block I think is really fascinating and I think it's worth people tuning into that. I interviewed Mark Gorton, who is at the time, I'm pretty sure he still is co president of the Maha Institute, a big, like, funder of the Maha pack, like RFK junior Booster. And I kind of posed that question to him, like, is Maha voting block, like last summer? And he was like, yeah, yes, it is. You know, and so it's really, it's really an interesting world to follow because, you know, obviously people are identifying a lot with RFK Jr. And that world. They're also identifying a lot with Trump. Some of them are becoming, I'm trying to think of the word disillusioned, which I'm kind of like, welcome to politics. But it's, it's a fascinating world. So I'm excited to do some more reporting. Yeah. About it. But I feel like people kind of the fever pitch of like, hey, let's all be purists. I feel like that probably, that bubble has probably burst, but like, it's still really good for people to remember that
- [65:24]
Kylie Griswold
like,
- [65:27]
Evie Solheim
you know, you can chart your own course.
- [65:29]
Kylie Griswold
Yes, yes.
- [65:30]
Evie Solheim
You know, it's hard if you haven't like grown up that way, but you can take small steps and like, do something that's healthier for you. And sometimes literally taking your kids on a walk, like, you know what, you go, you get the, you get the Maha stamp, You get the crunchy stamp.
- [65:49]
Kylie Griswold
Yes.
- [65:50]
Evie Solheim
I'm very much periphery of these things, but I find it, I think, yeah,
- [65:54]
Kylie Griswold
getting away from the, you know, purist mindset of it is so helpful because you really can chart a healthier path for yourself and it's not an all or nothing. And I, I mean, I try to be as holistic and non toxic as I can and that just is constantly evolving. I, I was raised in a home where we kept our leftovers in plastic and then probably popped them in the microwave in that same plastic. And I mean, it was like very, very toxic home. We cooked on Teflon. Like it was, you know, very. We trusted doctors. We, you know, were totally like into normal pharmaceuticals, whatever. And I think a lot of that at the time was just. You just don't. We just didn't know any better than that. You don't know.
- [66:43]
Evie Solheim
Yeah.
- [66:43]
Kylie Griswold
And now, you know, it started with getting rid of all of our, our plastic Tupperware. Now we store everything in glass. And then it was, okay, we're not going to cook on non stick anymore. Now we're going to use cast IR stainless steel. And you know, my latest is because I love, I so love a Yankee candle. It's been getting rid of my toxic candles and moving to something that's more non toxic than that. You know, air purifiers. And so it's just like little things. And every time you make one swap, you integrate it. It just becomes part of your everyday life. And then it's like, okay, this is the norm now, so it's not hard to make that swap anymore because we're just, we're doing the thing and then you make the next swap. And another one was seed oils. Like we, we cook in beef tallow now or avocado oil or some other oil. And I just don't even think about seed oils anymore. Whereas before it was like I couldn't imagine not, you know, baking with vegetable oil. And now it's like I just, the thought doesn't even cross my mind because we made this one. But the thought of doing it all at once is really overwhelming. So it's helpful not to think about being crunchy in terms of. Of all or nothing.
- [67:47]
Evie Solheim
So I think so, yeah. It can be evolving because even. Cause even a big part of it is just. Well, I'll shout out your former federalist colleague Tristan justice for his book, which I enjoyed. Which of course I'm not remembering the,
- [68:02]
Kylie Griswold
the title of which is an unhappy
- [68:05]
Evie Solheim
Yes, I will review an entire book and then I'll go. I don't remember the title. It's horrible. It's horrible. But I remember, you know, but, but just talking about how far a field of the way we're supposed to be treating our bodies. We're treating our bodies in industrial society. And you can't, you, you can't reclaim everything because guess what? There's also advantages to industrial society. I like not getting eaten by a bear. I think that's really good for me. So, so it's all, you know, it's all, you know, it all balances out. But yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
- [68:43]
Kylie Griswold
Okay, speaking of books, because I, this is gonna be my last thing and then I have to let you go because we I mean, we could talk for hours, but we taken enough time. So I want to do a couple of rapid fire questions to close out. What is the best book that you've read in the last six months and what are you reading right now?
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Evie Solheim
Oh, my. Well, let's start with what I'm reading right now because. Oh, it's hard to, for me to pick.
- [69:08]
Kylie Griswold
Okay.
- [69:09]
Evie Solheim
I've got some, I like to call them like my, yeah, my, like review copies. So I've got a couple books. Unfortunately, I don't know if this will show up right. For your viewers, but so we've got Girls by Freya India. So that one is coming out in the US this summer. It's already out in the UK I believe. So they were kind enough to send
- [69:28]
Kylie Griswold
me that for review.
- [69:29]
Evie Solheim
And then in the American Conservative, where I do a lot of book reviews, I'll be doing like, follow, subscribe, Influencer Kids and the Cost of a Childhood online. And this one, fascinating good journalism. Read it. She's on substack for Tessa Latifi. And you know, one thing I really love about doing book reviews and I love about, you know, tack and I'm sure the Federalists would be like this too. You can, if it's nonfiction journalism, it doesn't matter if someone's coming from the left or the right. There's gonna be interesting nuggets in there. So, you know, for Tessa, Latifi is probably somebody who, well, she does, she does kind of like throw in some lines about Trump in her book. But it's like, okay, well, you write for Rolling Stone. I'm not surprised. You do good work. Like, let's, let's roll. Let's, let's hear. Let's see what you're, you're doing. And an interesting thing about this book is so she's interviewing children who grow up as influencers. Their parents are influencers. You know, oftentimes they're kind of the centerpiece of the influencing and how. That's kind of our new, our new commercial. Like, instead of watching commercials on tv, people tune into these influencers. Right. That's not even new anymore. But so a lot of them are adults now. And so she's talking to the adults about what they experienced. She's navigating journalistic ethics in order to interview current child influencers, which is a really tenuous line to cross because, you know, you're having to go through parents and you're having to make sure you're, you know, above board and in all those ways. So she Interviews people who are under 18 in the book too. And I think she does a good job setting all of that up.
- [71:11]
Podcast Host
I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.
- [71:14]
Dan Morgan
Hey, how's it going today?
- [71:15]
Podcast Host
It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.
- [71:19]
Dan Morgan
I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm.
- [71:25]
Podcast Host
That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number.
- [71:34]
Dan Morgan
Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and badder and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on.
- [71:46]
Podcast Host
Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident?
- [71:51]
Dan Morgan
Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's £529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24, 7, 365.
- [72:01]
Evie Solheim
Wow.
- [72:01]
Podcast Host
Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan, America's large injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.
- [72:06]
Dan Morgan
Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you.
- [72:10]
Evie Solheim
But yeah, it's, it's, it's interesting because it gives you as like a parent, thoughts of how you want to share your children online, things like that. But it also really gets into like, okay, if I'm tuning into a family vlog, I'm giving money to, you know, YouTube or meta or whoever it may be, I'm giving them all my data. Like it's just a very eye opening. You know, if it's free, you're the product, right? Your data, what you're likely to buy, who you listen to. Like, that's what these big tech companies are interested in, right? And they're really interested in keeping this whole child influencer family influencer industrial complex going. So anyways, I won't give out too much of kind of what my take was in my book review, which might make people mad when they read it. They might get mad at me, but I welcome it. I welcome all feedback and I welcome all clicks because at heart, I am a yellow journalist. No, I'm kidding. You better shut that up. No, I'm kidding. Keep it in there. But people read it. Tell me if you're mad about what I say, but that'll be out soon.
- [73:16]
Kylie Griswold
Okay, great.
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Evie Solheim
And we have girls, which kind of Going back to your dating. Your dating question. I won't take too much of your time, but an interesting book on how kind of our online culture is reflecting and reflecting, refracting and kind of distorting our IRL culture, including dating. So, yeah, okay. Yeah, really good stuff.
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Kylie Griswold
And keep your eyes open for her reviews of those books because she does write great reviews. So read the books. But also, yeah, look for her reviews. Okay. A couple more rapid fire. These are going to be quicker. What is your favorite thrift find right now?
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Evie Solheim
Ooh. So I just got into ebay because you can find better stuff. And so I like. I will, like, visualize what I want. And I was like, I want, like, a Christmasy red, like, plaid, but, like, pretty long, like, shirt dress, because I feel like anything with a collar. You feel more polished. So I found this, like, vintage Elizabeth Lauren, like, red plaid 100 cotton dress. And then I found, like, the perfect belt to go with it. And I look like I'm from the 80s and I don't care. It's a good look, but unfortunately, I bought it after Christmas. I think that's why I was able to get a steal on it. So I have to wait until next year to wear it to Christmas parties because it's like. Like, it's like. It looks like Christmas wrapping paper, but, like, in the best way. So that's a fun one. I'm counting ebay today. I'm being generous. I'm counting ebay as thrifting.
- [74:50]
Kylie Griswold
Wow, ebay. I love that you are so into ebay, like, decades after everyone else was into ebay. Yeah, exactly. I love that. I love that.
- [74:58]
Evie Solheim
I'm on my ebay. Arc love.
- [75:01]
Kylie Griswold
What are you watching right now?
- [75:03]
Evie Solheim
What am I watching right now? Ooh, you know what? I actually do watch Abbott Elementary.
- [75:11]
Kylie Griswold
Okay.
- [75:12]
Evie Solheim
Do you know what I'm talking about?
- [75:13]
Kylie Griswold
I know what you're talking about, but I don't watch.
- [75:14]
Evie Solheim
Yeah, it's. It's good. I just started watching season five. I will just put that on and fold laundry. Okay. And I like that the. The gal. I don't remember her name. I should remember her name. I only know her character's name. But so the gal who plays the main character, I'm pretty sure, right. Writes the sitcom. Like she's kind of the showrunner, I'm pretty sure. No, it's. It's Quinta Brunson is her name.
- [75:38]
Kylie Griswold
Okay.
- [75:39]
Evie Solheim
So she's around. She does snl, I think, and she does all kinds of things, but so she writes it. The guy who played Everybody hates Chris. The guy who played Chris and Everybody hates Chris years ago is also. He's the best part of it. But I'm enjoying it. I don't feel like season five, like, they've kind of put everybody through everything they can put them through. Season 5 has been a little bit, like, off the wall. I'm like, would people really do this? Would they really get into, like, a blood feud? Because someone keeps running the. The teacher's lounge dishwasher with one dish in it. Is that really the plot point we're gonna go with?
- [76:18]
Kylie Griswold
Right.
- [76:18]
Evie Solheim
But watch some of the early seasons. I think it's funny.
- [76:21]
Kylie Griswold
I enjoy it, love it.
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Evie Solheim
Yeah.
- [76:25]
Kylie Griswold
Let's see your favorite candle scent.
- [76:28]
Evie Solheim
Oh, okay. So I'm gonna confess that I actually grew up in a really crunchy house, and it was like an anti fragrance house. Okay.
- [76:36]
Kylie Griswold
Like, genuinely, people, you were so ahead of the curve.
- [76:39]
Evie Solheim
I was so. I literally, literally grew up in, like, an anti fragrance house. I'm like, so now I'm, like, really weird about fragrances.
- [76:49]
Kylie Griswold
You are so ahead of the curve. I'm you. Your crunchy score just went so far. Back up again.
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Evie Solheim
Part of it too. My mom and I think that we just, like, genetically don't have much of a sense of smell, so it's also, like, not something we miss a lot. Like, I'm just not a smell person.
- [77:04]
Kylie Griswold
So you also had coveted nose way before anybody else.
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Evie Solheim
I did, yeah. Covet hits. And I'm like, y' all are just experiencing what I'm doing.
- [77:11]
Kylie Griswold
My world. Yeah.
- [77:12]
Evie Solheim
Yeah. I have a sense of smell. I'm trying to think of what I like. I will like, like a warm vanilla sugar. I'll like a whiff of that. I'll like a whiff of that. But then it's. It's like a too rich dessert. Then I like, smell it for more than two seconds, and I'm like, I'm sick. So it's a good time. But yeah, no. Join me in my horrible, sad world of no fragrances.
- [77:35]
Kylie Griswold
Hey. Okay, well, more people are trending that way, so. Yeah, it makes you happy. Okay. How about your go to coffee shop order?
- [77:44]
Evie Solheim
Oh, so we have a local shop out where we are that just got Matcha.
- [77:48]
Kylie Griswold
Oh, my God.
- [77:49]
Evie Solheim
Iced matcha recently.
- [77:51]
Kylie Griswold
Yes.
- [77:52]
Evie Solheim
And I was like, oh, this is not your Starbucks Matcha. This is really good. Had, like, some honey and some vanilla in mixed in there with the milk. And it was, like, iced, and it was a day that was actually warm. And I was like, oh, this is really good. I'm Moving to la. I'm gonna become marijuana girly or whatever that is. I was like, this is good.
- [78:13]
Kylie Griswold
But I have always liked matcha, but that has been my go to drink at my local coffee shop. They make it so well and I cannot get enough.
- [78:20]
Evie Solheim
It is.
- [78:20]
Kylie Griswold
Is the best matcha I've had. It's.
- [78:22]
Evie Solheim
There he was put. Our friend owns the shop. He was putting his whole soul into making sure it was good. I was like, oh, hallelujah. Love that.
- [78:30]
Kylie Griswold
Okay, very last question before I let you go. What is your favorite Twitter follow?
- [78:35]
Evie Solheim
Oh, goodness.
- [78:36]
Kylie Griswold
Oh, that's maybe one of your top. One of your top 10 somebody that
- [78:42]
Evie Solheim
you learn a lot from.
- [78:43]
Kylie Griswold
Funny.
- [78:44]
Evie Solheim
I will shout him out because I just think it's a question that people have, and I feel like he. Or an issue that people have. I will shout out Bobby Fian, who came on my husband's podcast recently, Moment of Truth, and he's at the American Housing Corporation. And so they are, like, actually figuring out, like, hey, let's make pro family housing and let's put it in places where people want to live and work, and let's make it affordable. So his Twitter goes crazy. They do lots of, you know, explainers and events and all kinds of stuff. So, like. Like, I find it very fascinating. I think it's fascinating when people just get in there and start doing things. So I'll shout out Bobby.
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Kylie Griswold
Yeah, amazing.
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Evie Solheim
Because he's. He's actually got his face on there. I'm like, actually, some of my favorite Twitter followers are probably just like, people who, like, their profile picture is like iced coffee. And they're like, I had a bad day. And then they have, like a foot. You're like, oh, I'm laughing. Thanks, thanks, reincarnated spirit of Norm MacDonald, you know?
- [79:45]
Kylie Griswold
Right.
- [79:45]
Evie Solheim
But yeah, I'll shout out Bobby. Bobby's got a good act Ex. And he's really positive and awesome. I feel like it's just nice to have somebody with a positive vision. Right. Which is to tie it all back up, what we're doing at the Chesterton Media Fellowship.
- [79:58]
Kylie Griswold
Yes, yes. So where can people.
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Evie Solheim
Positive vision.
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Kylie Griswold
Yes. Where can people find the fellowship or apply to the fellowship? Where can they follow you online besides the girls Guide, which, again, everybody needs to go subscribe to the girls Guide. But where can they find you? Where can they find the Media Fellowship?
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Evie Solheim
Yeah. So I'll give myself first. I'm at Evie Solheim. So E V I E S O L H E I M that's on Instagram. That's on X And yeah, follow us on New Guard Press. You can get in touch with me, I'll give you my email. Evie. Evie newguardpress.com if you want to apply to our fellowship, we've already got a pretty strong class that we're going to be parsing through in the coming days, but it never hurts to put yourself out there. So get in touch with me if you think you'd be a good fit and you'd like to do a six month fellowship and have your op EDS placed at impressive outlets. And yeah, just follow New Guard Press on all their Things. They're on LinkedIn, they're on Facebook, they're on Instagram, they're on X. And they love reader feedback and welcome submissions. So awesome.
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Kylie Griswold
It has been so fun talking to you. I've loved to reconnect and just, just, yeah, just shoot the breeze and hear more about what you're doing now. Congrats on your new gig. Thanks for joining me and everybody. Go follow Evie on all of the platforms that she just said. Thank you so much for tuning in to this week's episode of the Kylie Cast. If you haven't done so already, please like and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Leave us a five star review. It is truly such an easy way that you can help out the show. As always, I will be back next week with more. So until then, just remember the truth hurts but it won't kill you.