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‘You're Wrong' With Mollie Hemingway And David Harsanyi, Ep. 197: Another Assassination Attempt
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Join Federalist Editor-In-Chief Mollie Hemingway and Washington Examiner Senior Writer David Harsanyi as they break down the left's "architecture of political violence" and explain how it fueled the latest assassination attempt against President...
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Molly Hemingway
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David Harsanyi
Welcome back, everyone, to a new episode of youf're Wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of the Federalist, and David Harsany, senior writer at the Washington Examiner. Just as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, please do so at radio the federalist.com we'd love to hear from you. Hi, Molly, how's the book tour going?
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Molly Hemingway
It's going great. I as you know, since you have done these things, it is absolutely insane what happens when you birth a book. You have to spend a couple weeks just talking to everybody who's willing to listen to you about the work that you did, usually very privately and alone and cloistered for several years. So I'm thrilled with how it's going. I knew I wanted to write this book on Justice Alito. I knew that it was important to write it, but I did not know if anyone else would share my interest in Justice Alito. And it has gone very well and so I'm thrilled. But it is like, it's crazy. Yesterday I did a bunch of TV and radio in D.C. took a train up to New York, spoke to a group of people in New York, got back on the train and came back down. So it was like gone from my house from 8am until midnight. It was a lot.
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David Harsanyi
And now you're in some fancy studio?
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Molly Hemingway
I am. I'm using these wonderful studios on Capitol Hill, which is where I do most of my podcasts, which are increasingly on video, so.
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David Harsanyi
Great. Well, we've, I think, teased that we may do video one day. We'll see if that happens. I don't think Anyone really needs to see me, I think I'm fine this way. But we'll see how it works out.
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Molly Hemingway
David. Anyway, people love you, actually, I will say, because I've been doing a lot of, you know, traveling around, talking to people. People, people love David Harsani. And they'll say, you know, I agree with him on everything, or I don't agree with him, but I really like him. So.
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David Harsanyi
Oh, well, that's nice. Thank you, people. Well, a lot has happened. We haven't had a political discussion in, I think, three weeks. Right. We had your book episode last week and I'm happy it's going well. Obviously, I see it's a bestseller and that's great. But we have some big news and one, one of the, obviously the big stories is that there was another assassination attempt against the President of the United States, Donald Trump, this time at the White House correspondence dinner at the Washington Hilton a few days ago. The alleged perpetrator is a Cole Allen, I think is his name. I think he's like 30, 31 years old. He's from California. He was or is a teacher or maybe a substitute teacher. It's unclear to me how like, you know, what he was teaching exactly. But he, you know, he was an engineering student at Caltech, person who, who had a, some accomplishments in life. Right. There are so many levels to this from the, the incident itself, Secret Service, the, I think left wing, the scourge of left wing violence that has actually taken over this country in many ways. How the media handles it. Where do you think we should start?
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Molly Hemingway
Well, there's a lot here, as you note. And the first thing that I was struck by was how when he wrote his letter to his family members about why he did what he did, he didn't sound crazy. He sounded evil. People who kill other people for political beliefs are evil. They're not necessarily crazy. He didn't strike me as crazy. He just struck me as someone who believed what he had been told by the media. He believed the Russia collusion hoax. He believed various conspiracy theories about Donald Trump's involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. He believed things that weren't so, and he believed them so strongly. He just took the next natural step of following through with what the media had told him. I mean, you're told that someone's a traitor and you're told that for 10 years, you know, what do we do to people like that? And he sounded like the, my friends from high school who write crazy stuff on Facebook, I mean, they're functional members of society for the Most part, but what they believe is like really. And so I don't know. Did you notice that he didn't seem like he was. He didn't seem like he had been detached from reality. He just seemed like he had been too attached to MSNBC or other entities like that.
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David Harsanyi
It did hit me. It's funny that you mentioned the 10 years. It hit me that from the age of 21, where most people start thinking maybe about politics to some extent was 10 years ago, is when we first started hearing that Donald Trump was actually an asset for a foreign government and had taken over the White House, had undermined democracy. All of these conspiracy theories and hysteria. And he's been marinating in that hysteria for 10 years. Basically, it. I'm surprised stuff like this doesn't happen more often, even though it's happening, I think pretty often. But I wanted to mention that since it began, things have gotten a lot worse. Meaning there are now people openly rationalizing murder or sometimes openly celebrating it as it was with Charlie Kirk. I mean, it happens like. I hate the term Overton window, but because actually this is a very fast moving kind of outlook on the, on about politics. But there are more and more people who are comfortable talking about politics in violent, in violent terms. And you know, I'm thinking about Hassan Piker, who is the most talked about progressive, I would say in the weeks leading up to this, right. Invited into Democratic Party politics, invited into the big, onto the biggest podcast in the country, invited onto the New York Times where their columnists defend him. And I don't know, I guess it's just not surprising to me that this is happening more often.
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Molly Hemingway
So I saw some people pointing out in the aftermath of this latest left wing assassination attempt, they would say, oh, there's a problem with political violence on both sides. It is certainly true that all people have capacity for sin and that there's corruption in the hearts of mankind and that no one escapes from that. We're all sinners. And, and it is true even that there have been instances of right wing political violence in recent decades. You can admit that without neglecting the obvious reality that something completely separate is happening on the left, which is not that it's not that sometimes people commit violence in the name of politics. That you have an entire architecture supporting political violence. You have elite members of society treating political violence as a legitimate, as a legitimate thing, or treating it as something that's not a bad thing. You have major Democrat officials kind of calling for violence against either elected officials or other people. You might remember Chuck Schumer a few years ago, threatening Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh from the steps of the Supreme Court. It is that institutional support for violence that concerns me more than the reality that people are capable of murder and capable of all sorts of bad things. And that's. That is. That is not unique to one political side. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like the right is saying, oh, yay, let's. Let's endorse this person who's calling for assassination.
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David Harsanyi
You remember stochastic terrorism?
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Molly Hemingway
Oh, I do, yeah.
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David Harsanyi
The idea that was. I mean, it's an existing idea, was popularized by the left in. In an effort to blame conservative rhetoric, innocuous conservative rhetoric, for the violence of, like, a neo Nazi. And it always bothered me that people would demand I take ownership of that and denounce it like. Like it happened because of something I said. When I am completely untethered from what they're doing, I don't support it. I never say anything like that. But now when you have this guy Allen write a manifesto that is virtually. I mean, that. That stuff could have been said by any progressive podcaster, or in fact, it could have been said by many Democratic politicians, and you'd be like, yeah, that's normal. You know, they call them a rapist and a pedophile all the time. Donald Trump, they say he's a traitor all the time, but they pretend that it has nothing to do with them. You know, all of a sudden, the violent language, the unhinged accusations, it's completely untethered from what they're doing. And this is how they approach it. Now we have to talk about gun control or we have to talk about lowering the temperature. Well, they never. About what they're talking about. And this is not even the people who actually. And we'll get into this later, who are justifying and rationalizing violence against conservatives, you know, and the president.
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Molly Hemingway
Well, I saw Chuck Todd saying that he was too scared to be in the presence of Donald Trump going forward. And I thought it was interesting because Chuck Todd is someone who articulated ideas that were clearly accepted by the attempted assassin. Chuck Todd used to be on msnbc, I think, for many years, when, during the first Trump administration, he was a prime pusher of the Russia collusion hoax. Every single day, he would bring a Republican on and ask him to denounce Trump's collusion with Russia to steal the 2016 election. That's something that this attempted assassin believed. He believed Chuck Todd's lies. And for Chuck Todd to be like, I'm so scared that I have created an environment where people are wanting to kill the President so I can't be around him. I mean, have some self reflection, Chuck Todd. Think about what you did to convince a bunch of weak minded people on the left that the Russia delusion hoax was real. That was you, Chuck Todd. That was you. Washington Post and New York Times and the Atlantic Monthly. I mean, these are the people who did this. And there are people who are not strong enough to know when someone's basically like playing a political game and they fall for it. Like, I don't know if Chuck Todd is that stupid. He might be to have believed it. But I think a lot of the people who did it were just playing politics. And now at their precious little dinner where they go all congratulate themselves about their truth telling, such as when they lied about the President colluding with Russia to steal the 2016 election, or when they lied about Brett Kavanaugh being a serial gang rapist roaming the streets of suburban Maryland, or when they lied about whether you could have an opinion on how to handle Covid. Like whatever they lied about, then they go congratulate themselves. Then when someone tries to kill the President at their dinner, they all act like they're the victims. It's infuriating.
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David Harsanyi
Oh yeah, that was infuriating. But I think we should make a distinction here. I don't. There's a thing that leftists have done where I'll say Ilhan Omar is anti American. The things she's saying, they're against the Constitution, whatever. And then when she gets a death threat, they'll try to chill speech, right? So people will say to me, well, if there was an assassin and he was out there mimicking what you said, is it your fault? And well, there's a difference. I don't think that I say anything that is, or I don't purposely say things to demonize other people. I try to have a factual understanding of what they're about and then I debate them. So if there was a person who went out there and shot up a room and said, you know, free markets rule or something, that's just an insane person. I think free markets rule, right? That, that's not the same as saying that the President is a traitor, that the President is under the, the, you know, is hypnot the Jews of the Middle east to kill Americans on purpose or to steal from us or protecting pedophiles or all these other things that they're saying. If you have legitimate criticisms and by the way, everyone, every individual is responsible for their own actions. I don't. It's not like I think Chuck Todd is responsible for what this guy's done, but he certainly, his ideology and the things that he said that are untrue certainly play a part in creating an atmosphere where this sort of thing is going to happen. Do you agree with that? I mean, or am I understating it?
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Molly Hemingway
No, I completely agree. And I always say, you know, you're responsible for your own actions. Just because someone even would say, you know, you should probably kill that person doesn't mean you should. You know, you have to be. You have to be responsible for your own actions. What you mentioned about the stochastic terrorism angle that the left was using to silence their conservative political opponents, they would say things like, the splc, the Southern Poverty Law center, you know, helped organize that Charlottesville event. And when they did that, and there were problems there, they would then say, it's actually the right who needs to take responsibility for this event, when in fact the right did not need to take responsibility for the event in any way, shape or form. They were just using it. So you couldn't talk about, is it a good idea to tear down our country's statues? Is it a good idea to engage in Marxist thought about our own history? They didn't want to have that conversation, so they would. They would use this frame of stochastic terrorism to silence their political opponents. But then you have a situation like, you know, where people really are creating the permission structure to do things like this. I have coined the term. I've coined the term assassination prep. So if you have a cover where you depict Donald Trump as Hitler, do I think that means that Lorene Powell jobs, I think it was her magazine that did that. Do I think she's going to go, you know, treat Donald Trump like we treat the Hitlers of the world? No. But do I think maybe someone like Cole, whatever his name is, is going to view that as a direction on how he should treat the president? I mean, he says it in his note to his family. We all know that this needs to happen and I'm going to do it or something to that. And I think this is what happens when you do have a breakdown of being able to disagree lawfully, civilly, through debate. And you, you have an entire political movement that has spent, you know, you said the last 10 years of this guy's life were in this hysteria, but probably the previous 20 years involved not receiving a good education in terms of tolerating different viewpoints and it's a very toxic combination.
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David Harsanyi
Well, can I go just through it a little bit? So within that 10 years, well, there have been three serious major attempts on the to murder the Donald Trump. Right. Not long ago, Charlie Kirk was assassinated. One of the most popular conservative voices in the country. Before that, Brian Thompson, the CEO of the largest insurance company, was murdered on the street by us, by Commie. And before that, a person showed up to assassinate a Supreme Court justice. I tried to see if there was ever an assassination on a Supreme Court justice. Before that, I don't think there ever was. And before that, people forget a Bernie Sanders fan showed up and tried to kill the entire Republican House leadership in Alexandria. We're not even talking about the Free Palestine activists who bring fire bombs to protest to assassinated two Israeli embassy workers on the street of D.C. right. Or the firebombing of Tesla dealerships, the antifa fire bombings, the police stations at ice, the pregnancy centers when the Dobbs decision was happening. Or the BLM riots, which are the most destructive riots in American history.
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Blue Square Alliance Spokesperson
Here's a thought that shouldn't be controversial. You can think someone is completely wrong and still not hate them. I know, wild. But somehow we've turned disagreement into a personality and hate into something people are way too comfortable with. And it's not just happening in one place. Hate is rising across communities and in different ways. And Jewish communities are getting hit especially hard right now. And hate doesn't just stay in one lane, it spreads. So even if you think this isn't your issue, give it a minute. You don't have to agree with people, you just have to decide you're not okay with hate. That's it. The blue square is a simple way to say that out loud. Go to bluesquarealliance.org, get a pin, share it or don't, but at least don't pretend this isn't happening.
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David Harsanyi
I was looking to see all, you know, I was trying to see what kind of terrorism has been going on. And like a few weeks ago, someone showed up with maltive cocktails at the Capitol and knives and to and was targeting Republican officials before they were arrested. And it literally was not even on my radar in the news. It's become so normal. This is now a really dangerous pattern in this country. And people who pretend that this is a both sides problem, you know, are fooling themselves or lying. There's no other way to look at it. So I agree with you on that. And, and I just wanted to say like by constantly Calling people Hitler or whatever you are. You are, like you say, your permission structure, but you are creating college students, podcasters. They've been indoctrinated to believe that Trump is Hitler, that the profit motive is murdering the poor. And if you accept that mo notion, you're going to think it's completely ethical, for instance, to steal things, or you're going to think it's ethical to burn down a building because you're saving the world, or to stop traffic, or to glue yourself to some work of art. And an unhinged person is going to believe that they can kill someone. And that's going to happen more and more often if we don't put a stop to this. But I'm not really sure how you can do that sort of thing.
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Molly Hemingway
I mean, there was this tweet that former President Obama put out after the attempted assassin's letter to his family was made public, which explained in great detail exactly what his motivation for wanting to kill Trump and his top cabinet officials was. And it was a belief in all of these left wing conspiracy theories that has been put forth in major media. And Obama, he says we don't. It was very in artfully, but he thought artfully done. We don't yet know all the details about the motivation, but we must reject political violence. Buddy, he was one of yours. He believed what you claim to believe. Go ahead and just say, as we fight against Republicans, let us remember that violence is never the answer. You know what I mean? Say something worthwhile. Deal with the reality that the left has an open embrace of violence problem. But also, I think that the Republicans could do more here too. I think this guy who tried to kill President Trump was not a teachers union member, but it's also true that teachers unions give billions, I think, a year to achieve left wing political objectives. He may or may not have been part of some of the funding, some of those efforts. You have left wing terrorists who are organized and well funded and people were all complimenting Trump on how he kind of brushed it all off. Like, what are you going to do? People are going to try and kill you. It's also true we need to take left wing terrorism seriously. We need to look at it and the networks and the funding and the violence. I mean, blm, not only did they not get investigated, they got a hundred billion in money that's insane. From corporations when they were engaged in supporting the most violent and destructive riots in American history. So the right, I don't know. It is good to not let left wing terrorists destroy you and keep, you know, have you deviate. But one of the things that people who care about rule of law should be doing is disrupting left wing terror networks.
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David Harsanyi
Oh yeah, that's for sure. But you know, I, I just, I think it just goes deeper than all of that in the sense that when, think about when that Brian Thompson was executed. I forgot the guy's name. Mangione or something. Luigi I think was his name. Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Others came out and have this perfunctory, like Obama esque, you know, we can't have political violence and then rationalize the violence by saying what did Elizabeth Warren say? People can only be pushed so far. Right. So I see this kind of rationalization all the time. I see a poll that 40% of young people said that that assassination was acceptable or somewhat acceptable. I hear that pretty often out there. And I'm sure a lot of people believe that the assassination of Donald Trump is acceptable even if they don't say it. It's not like this guy Allen was part of some antifa terror network. Right? He was just, I hate to use the word lone wolf. He's not a lone wolf. He's part of an ideological movement, but he still acted on his own. So. And can I ask you this too? So this guy tried to get in and you know, to the dinner there. He actually got deeper than he should have with firearms. I guess maybe. But how's the Secret Service doing? Like do, do we have a problem where these things aren't stopped even earlier than they are?
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Molly Hemingway
Okay, so I think there's, there's a lot here too. Let me just first off say that Trump had almost successfully killed the White House correspondence dinner, which is something that should not happen. It's a joke. It's a bunch of losers who congratulate themselves on the great job they're doing when they're awful. And then they get really excited that like a third tier celebrity shows up and they all think that they are the center of the universe. And Trump had treated it with disdain during his first administration. It was, it was dying on the vine. And then he rewards them with an appearance. It's always held at the, what I call the Reagan Hilton because this is where John Hinckley tried to kill Ronald Reagan. And it is a great large hotel with a lot of space that's appropriate for this event. So in addition to the dinner which has thousands of people, the are also pre parties. Different groups will host pre parties. You can kind of like go room to room to get to the pre Parties, you just have to be invited. You don't have to go through security, but they're right next to also this ballroom. There's just a lot happening. It's also a live functioning hotel, so people are just checking in. That's what happened with this shooter. He brought in his weaponry just as a hotel guest and it worked out okay this time because he was acting alone. He runs through the, the metal detectors and he gets shot at and I believe trips and falls. So I think like that that was the end of that. So it wasn't like a failure completely in this moment. But what everyone kind of recognizes is it would have been very, very, extremely easy for three terrorists to do something together. Someone brings a bomb, disrupts where the metal detector is, two other people go past and shoot up the crowd. You know, things could have happened in a way that everyone realizes like, oh thank God it was just this kid or not kid, 31 year old man, sorry, but like this, this person who didn't, wasn't even able to get someone else to go along with him. And the realization that there are so many security vulnerabilities there, I think that is just making people wonder why when the President and his cabinet are all in one location, there isn't greater, a greater security posture. But there is a lot of blame to go around here.
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David Harsanyi
Then just as a side note, obviously the first thing that the left does when something like this happens is talk about guns and more gun control. Well, this guy was from California, which has stricter gun laws than anything Democrats want. Nash, or claim to want nationally.
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Molly Hemingway
He.
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David Harsanyi
I don't, I don't know the full story yet, but he, you know, it seems like he bought them legally, he illegally transported them across, you know, to, to dc Broke a whole bunch of existing DC laws to have those guns. Anyway, we'll see where we go from here. It, it doesn't seem like there's any self reflection on the left about any of this. And you know, there's there, there also just quickly want to mention there's constantly. I've been debunking these lists for like 10 years where there's a list that says most political terrorism comes from the right, not the left. And every single one of those lists is, is nonsense. You know, either. I'll give you a quick example. If there's a white guy who does some shooting up of something, even though there's no discernible ideological position, they will throw them in the white supremacy basket. Right. Like immed. Or if there's even a person's a nut and has a confused viewpoint, they'll throw them not in the left bag, but in the right bag. And so that's constantly going on. Left wing terrorism has been a problem in this country going back for, to the beginning of the 20th century. The two presidents who have been assigned, the two last presidents who were assassinated, the two presidents who were assassinated in the 20th century were both killed by commies. And the 60s, there were bombings all over the place. The 70s, there were bombings all over the place. The left wing has always, because of its revolutionary nature, especially hard left progressivism, has always been more comfortable with violence than a conservative would be. By the very nature of the idea of conservatism, the violent rhetoric, the Hassan pikers and people who, who talk like that there is, they are far closer to the mainstream of the Democratic Party than any than Nick Fuentes or who. And I don't even know if Nick Fuentes has actually said anything violent actually. But whoever is to the center of the Republican Party, I think that it's
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Molly Hemingway
so interesting to see these reports coming out from people like, oh, actually the left doesn't have a super big violence problem. And then you look, as you noted at the data and it's a, it's a joke. You know what they include and what they don't include. Like all of the BLM related violence isn't put under the left, even though there were killings and robberies and fire bombings and you know, all these like major problems. And anyone who is sentient, anyone who's just noticing the world around them knows it's not true. The other thing I wanted to say is just to reiterate how annoying I found many media people after this event. They all seem to feel the need to tell us where they were the moment that someone inspired by left wing rhetoric tried to kill the President. And to hear it, there were 2500 people there. I think once you've heard that story like a dozen times, you're done. But it seemed like everybody had to get their, you know, I was there. Okay, well, I'm glad you're safe. I'm glad you're okay. And I think I'm done with the personal anecdotes about it. And I also really, really, really want that dinner to end forever.
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David Harsanyi
Maybe it will.
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Molly Hemingway
I was offended. I mean, I got so many people being like, are you there? Are you there? And I'm like, who do you think I am? Who do you like? I would never ever grace that dinner. I hope I will never be, be like forced to or anything. I, I cannot stand it.
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David Harsanyi
And I'm sure it was scary, right? I'm sure it's scary. I have been. I have never been shot at, but I've had a gun pointed at me once when I was younger, and it's, it's a traumatic thing. I get it. But you're, you're journalists. You're supposed to, like, be tougher than that. And I guess I just mentioned it myself, but I'm happy everyone's okay, as you said.
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Molly Hemingway
This is Molly Hemingway of the Federalist inviting you to join me for the 2026 issues Etc. Making the Case conference, Friday, June 12 and Saturday, June 13 at Concordia University, Chicago. I'll be speaking and signing copies of my new book, Alito the Justice who Reshaped the Supreme Court and restored the U.S. constitution. Learn more at issuesetc.org making the case June 12th and 13th in River Forest, Illinois.
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Blue Square Alliance Spokesperson
Issuesetc.org Here's a thought that shouldn't be controversial. You can think someone is completely wrong and still not hate them. I know. Wild. But somehow we've turned disagreement into a personality and hate into something people are way too comfortable with. And it's not just happening in one place. Hate is rising across communities in different ways. And Jewish communities are getting hit especially hard right now. And hate doesn't just stay in one lane, it spreads. So even if you think this isn't your issue, give it a minute. You don't have to agree with people. You just have to decide you're not okay with hate. That's it. The blue square is a simple way to say that out loud. Go to bluesquarealliance.org, get a pin. Share it or don't, but at least don't pretend this isn't happening.
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David Harsanyi
Speaking. I think I had a better segue to this, but speaking about riots and marches, we learned while we were out that the Southern Poverty Law Institute. Right. Make sure I get center.
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Molly Hemingway
Southern center, center.
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David Harsanyi
SPLC had been. There was an indictment filed against them by the federal government, by the Justice Department that contends that they were, in essence, funding and you will put some meat on the bones here. Were funding neo Nazi groups, Klan groups, things like that, and had, I guess, informants right. Within. Within those groups that helped. Like, it's a significant amount of money that essentially helped these groups exist and to put on marches. Like, what was it? What was that march called in Charlottesville?
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Molly Hemingway
Unite the Right.
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David Harsanyi
Unite the Right. Specifically, which ended in the death, I believe, of one person. But you know was this traumatic event that we could never get over and that, that the left still talks about.
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Molly Hemingway
So the reason why Joe Biden felt he had to run for president.
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David Harsanyi
Right, which was the event that people kept asking me to denounce, like I had something to do with it. So tell us more. So what the. What does this mean really, Will? What does it mean? Like, will anyone go to jail? Is it, is it going to stop them from doing it again? I have to be honest, I'm just going to preface this by saying I don't. It's hard for me to understand what is illegal here other than potentially some kind of fraud in representing yourself. I mean, why can't I give money to any group I feel like. Or what. What law prohibits me from doing that?
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Molly Hemingway
Okay, so I feel like it's good to have a little bit of a backstory here about the Southern Poverty Law center, which I will call the splc. So when they started, they developed a favorable reputation among a lot of people for trying to bankrupt racist organizations. They were kind of so successful that they ran out of racism and racist people in groups to. To bankrupt. So they started moving into calling anyone who was an opponent of the Democrat party, particularly if they were effective. They called them bigoted, hateful and needing to be destroyed. I know this because the Federalist was one of their targets. And when you get targeted by the Southern Poverty Law center for in our case, that meant that social media companies were given the justification to censor our views and opinions and help help decrease the spread of our. Of our message. It was debilitating. It was an attack on our company. But other people have had it even worse. So for example, they put, they put together what they called a hate map. And on their hate map they would put organizations that didn't agree with their far left views on sexuality. So a group called the Family Research Center Council. Family Research Council was put on there. And a man in, I don't know, 2012 came to the Family Research Council. He came armed to the teeth with a ton of ammunition and a bag of Chick Fil A because at that time the Southern Poverty Law center and other left wing groups were going after Chick Fil A for believe. For being Christian. And so he wanted to murder everybody and then shove Chick Fil A sandwiches in their mouths. He was stopped by a very brave security guard named Leo. I forget Leo's last name. I actually was over there promoting the book recently. I saw where the gunshots were. I saw that they had commemorated. Leo did not die. He was Shot, but he did not die. He looked like he was going to die with the amount of blood he was losing. Really incredibly brave person. And he told the police that he was brought to FRC by the Southern Poverty Law center, which had put that group on a hate map. They put Charlie Kirk and TP USA on their hate list. Just months before someone following the same ideology as SPLC murdered, assassinated Charlie Kirk. When Charlie Kirk was put on this list, he said, you know, they're trying to cause us harm. And we took it all. You know, everyone just kind of like accepts it. Oh, the splc, which the Washington Post would always describe not as a crazy left wing Democrat organization that lies about people. They'd say the highly respected SPLC has designated this Christian group as a hate group. And they would just assert it like we also agree with the splc. And so it's a very, very evil organization. And yet their annual budget, I am not joking, is like hundreds of millions of dollars a year. And their endowment is close to a billion dollars. They have the funding of all the far left people like Tim Cook and their corporations. So while people on the right like the Federalists are, you know, struggling to raise money so that we can do basic journalism, you have a nearly billion with the B dollar endowment to, to, to this SPLC group that operates as the activist wing of the Democrat party. So that gets us to the indictment. I say this all because I am a long time critic of the SPLC and I was shocked by what the indictment showed. Now what people are excited about is a little different from what they were indicted for. I just mean by that, that they're indicted for bank fraud and mail fraud or wire fraud. And I think they're going to be in major trouble. Assuming people care about tax exemption law, they're going to be in major trouble with the IRS as well. And that's because they, to cover up what they were doing, they lied to banks and financial institutions to enable them to run the script. So finding a lack of racism to fight, the SPLC decided to subsidize it. They began funding the leadership of various racist groups and some of the people they funded. And by the way, it's to the tune of millions of dollars sometimes. These were really tiny groups that didn't really have funding, but the SPLC would come in with like hundreds of thousands of dollars and they were financing people who were organizing the type of things that they would then tell donors they were fighting. So they financed one of the organizers of the Unite the Right rally which led to the death of a woman, which people at the time thought kind of seemed like a false flag operation. And then they raised so many millions of dollars off of claiming not to fund the Unite the Right rally, but to fight the Unite the Right rally. So you're not allowed to lie about what you're doing with donors. You, you know, in order to have tax exempt status, you have to be truthful about what you're doing. And they were doing the opposite. They were actually financing the thing they claimed to be fighting. And it did work for them. They were able to raise so much money off of claiming to fight the rally that they had actually funded the leadership up. And the actual indictment, though, isn't that. It's that in so doing, in order to cover their tracks, they set up fake corporations and ran money through different corporations. And that's, that's what they're in trouble for.
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David Harsanyi
The. I remember years ago on the hate. Here's the thing with the hate map, I just wanted to go back for a second. It's not merely that they put groups on there that are obviously not hateful. For instance, I remember they had the Alliance Defending Freedom on there, which is one of the best. I don't know what they are an activist group, a legal group that defends freedom of religion and speech. It's that they conflate those groups with other ones. So they'll put, and I noticed the left likes to do this often, so they'll put Alliance Defending Freedom right next to some neo Nazi group on the same list to conflate those two kinds of thinkings. And that, I think goes back to what we were talking about before. What I'm saying is that obviously there's a moral problem, even if they do not, in the end, aren't destroyed legally. Oh yeah, they destroyed their reputation, right?
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Molly Hemingway
Well, it should.
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David Harsanyi
I mean, it should.
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Molly Hemingway
They are, they might just regroup how they do it. They're so important to the media, Big tech and the Democrat Party in general. You, you know, they're going to have all the big guns coming out to protect those assets. This is a, this is a large entity with a, I mean, for each
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David Harsanyi
endowment for years you'd read a story and they would have like, oh, and this group is on the SPLC's list of extremist groups or hate groups or whatever. Like it was just a norm for the, for the establishment media to use that group as the way to smear conservatives.
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Molly Hemingway
I think that their endowment should be distributed to their victims. Groups like Family Research Council and the Alliance Defending Freedom. They have, they have cost those groups so much money with their false smears of hatred, including, you know, actual violence, and they've gotten away with it. And I think, you know, there should be, there should be justice served there.
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David Harsanyi
I wonder if there's room for civil, civil suits here from those groups now that we know what they've been doing. Right, Right. That seems like maybe a better way to try to, well, try to extract some point out.
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Molly Hemingway
SPLC has lawyered up, as you would expect them to. They've got top left wing legal minds helping them because it's a big threat to the Democrat Party. The conservative legal movement should also organize and strategize how to defund this hate, this actual hate group, which is splc, which has done so much to cause racial division. You know, whatever you think about how it got started, it turned very dark in the last couple of decades in a bad way. And there should be creative legal minds thinking about how to stop their reign of terror there.
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David Harsanyi
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Blue Square Alliance Spokesperson
Here's a thought that shouldn't be controversial. You can think someone is completely wrong and still not hate them. I know, wild. But somehow we've turned disagreement into a personality and hate into something people are way too comfortable with. And it's not just happening in one place. Hate is rising across communities in different ways. And Jewish communities are getting hit especially hard right now. And hate doesn't just stay in one lane, it spreads. So even if you think this isn't your issue, give it a minute. You don't have to agree with people. You just have to decide you're not okay with hate. That's it. The blue square is a simple way to say that out loud. Go to bluesquarealliance.org, get a pin, share it or don't, but at least don't pretend this isn't happening.
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David Harsanyi
Speaking of indictments, this is breaking news. Essentially, when we're recording so If I don't get everything right here, I'm sorry, this is just what they have. But that. Former FBI Director James Comey was indicted again today. Multiple sources told CBS News, making it the second time that he's been indicted. And apparently this has to do with an Instagram post from last year showing seashells arranged to form the numbers 86, 47. 86 is to. To kill something, to kill the 47.
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Molly Hemingway
It's an old, it's an old mafia term to take someone out. Yes.
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David Harsanyi
Yeah, we used to use it when I was a waiter, many, many years ago. Like you people have.
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Molly Hemingway
It's gotten into popular culture from that origin. Yes.
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David Harsanyi
Yeah, but I don't know if that's what the indictment is for sure yet. That's just what cbs.
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Molly Hemingway
Yeah, I just want to, I want to caution people, having covered Comey for a very long time, the man is slippery as the most slippery snake. He lies, he's creepy beyond belief, and he loves to leak to reporters. So I would suspect that if he says I was indicted over, you know, threatening to kill the President with seashells, but clearly I didn't mean that, that probably it's something else or even somewhat different. Like is it that he lied when he was asked about it? Frequently if you threaten violence against the president or Vice President, you'll get an interview with people. Did he lie during that interview? Which would be, by the way, so choice given that that's how he tried to go after Mike Flynn, who didn't even lie in an interview but destroyed his life anyway. Could it be that? Could it be something else? I would wait until you read the indictment before you decide what you think about the case least because I wouldn't trust Comey and his many media allies
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David Harsanyi
just, you know, doing research on the fly. See that? Last year Christine Ohm said on social media that they were investigating him for the calling of assassinations of Trump. I don't know if that's what it is. That's just a guess. Could be something else. Like you say so, and I do
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Molly Hemingway
think there is a difference between even, you know, this is a man who was the former FBI director, who was in a position of great power, who ran the Russia collusion hoax. And I have done award winning reporting about how he managed to do that, including overruling the complaints of like everybody to force the obviously false Christopher Steele dossier into an intelligence assessment that a bunch of stupid people fell for. He lied. You know, he lied repeatedly and with abandonment throughout his career. And he has very top legal representation helping him avoid any accountability. But I will say that I hope that he, that there are ways to hold him accountable for what he did to the country. I worry that if you let him and all the other Russia collusion hoaxers off scot free or even, you know, they get benefits, they get rewarded for what they did, it really undermines rule of law in the country. And just one other quick thing I want to say. Also today we learned of raids on some of the people who were allegedly defrauding taxpayers through their fake preschools and learning centers in Minnesota. And also today we had and it. And this one is the thing that makes me the happiest. An indictment of one of one of the top aids to Anthony Fauci for FOIA violations. And he had been caught admitting that he was manipulating FOIAs to keep people in the dark about the origins and, and other issues related to the COVID pandemic. And it looks like there might be more people getting indicted for that too. Even as upset as I am about the Russia collusion hoax, I think the what happened with the federal government and Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins subverting scientific inquiry and joining with big tech companies to censor proper speech and debate is. It's something I'm still so angry about. I can barely contain myself. So.
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David Harsanyi
Or to censor or to censor improper speech. It's not for them to decide what's proper or not. Right. You're talking about David Morenz. He was indicted on but here somewhere charged with one count of conspiracy against the United States States, two counts of destruction, alteration or falsifications of records in federal investigation and another few counts. He could face up to 51 years in jail. He's 78. I have no, I feel no sympathy for him at all or any of Fauci's people. I agree. I think if people don't pay the price, in fact, if they are rewarded, which all these people have been for the Russia collusion stuff and this it's going to happen again culture.
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Molly Hemingway
Yeah.
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David Harsanyi
Okay. You must have been pretty busy. So I don't know how much you've watched, but have you been watching things?
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Molly Hemingway
I've mostly just been traveling all over the country. I was up at Yale, I was out in California. I've been traveling a lot and doing a lot for the book. I don't know if it's really culture. I just want to say normally because I work at, at Fox in addition to all the other stuff, I'm normally only on tv. There but to promote the book, I've had two weeks off to go wherever. And it's just interesting and fun to see how different people run TV shows. And I certainly love being at Fox, but it's been just like, also interesting to see who watches what podcasts. You know, you'll run into people and they'll say, oh, you know, I saw you on Ali Beth Stuckey, or I saw you on Megyn Kelly, or I saw you on Ben Shapiro. And just seeing who follows which podcasters. I'm not normally in that influencer orbit. It's just been kind of fun. But, yes, I did finally watch a movie. I was so exhausted last weekend and I had to ask my husband the names of these movies and he texted them to me so I could be prepared. So the first one is good luck, have fun, don't die. Have you seen it?
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David Harsanyi
No.
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Molly Hemingway
I would recommend. Is done by Gore Verbinski.
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Blue Square Alliance Spokesperson
That.
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Molly Hemingway
Is, that. Is that his name? Can I just make up that name? The guy who did Pirates. Pirates of the Caribbean. And it has a great cast. The main actor I love, and I can't remember his name.
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David Harsanyi
Sam Rockwell is the main actor. Yeah, he's great.
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Molly Hemingway
Great. I love him. And he. He does a great job, but it's also just a great ensemble cast. He plays a time traveler who is trying to save the. Save humanity basically from AI and in some ways from technology itself. So interesting themes and I enjoyed it. You know, I think I've ever. But I would recommend it.
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David Harsanyi
I. I don't think I've ever seen Sam Rockwell on anything that I didn't think he was good in. Even if the movie wasn't great. Right.
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Molly Hemingway
Yes. I also watched the Ghost Writer.
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David Harsanyi
The movie. The movie with Nicolas Cage.
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Molly Hemingway
No, the Ghost Rider. I think it's called the Ghost Rider.
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David Harsanyi
Oh, the Ghost Writer. Like a writer like you are. Oh, I see. With the Philip Roth book it was based on or am I always here?
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Molly Hemingway
Yes, I think so. I don't know. I'm sorry. I was tired. I enjoyed it. And I also miss movies like that. Thrillers from. I don't know what. What it was 90s aughts. I don't know.
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David Harsanyi
2010. Is this with. Is this with Pierce Brosnan and. Yes, that is not what I'm thinking about. That's not a Philip.
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Molly Hemingway
But have you.
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David Harsanyi
Yeah.
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Molly Hemingway
Well, who wrote the book that it was based on?
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David Harsanyi
I don't know. Robert Harris, who's a very good writer. Yeah.
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Molly Hemingway
Okay.
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David Harsanyi
Someone who I know Robert Harris is great.
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Molly Hemingway
So I liked it. And it does play you know, it says about this guy, he doesn't even have a name. He's just the ghostwriter of a famous British politician who gets embroile world in all sorts of mystery. And again, just solid. Not like the best movie I've ever seen, but I appreciated it.
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David Harsanyi
That's directed by Roman Polanski.
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Molly Hemingway
Yeah. So we knew that it wasn't filmed in America. We were actually curious where it was filmed. We're like, well, we know it's not the United States. Since he's not allowed to come here because of his.
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David Harsanyi
Yes.
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Molly Hemingway
Situation. I'm. I'm. I just accept that most artists are deviant and awful, so I don't. Don't. I know you do, too.
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David Harsanyi
More than. Yeah, he's more than usual. I think he. He's. He excels at it a little more than most.
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Molly Hemingway
Yes. But. But I. But, yeah, it was good. And then I tried to watch something. I don't remember the name of it, but it's by that guy who was in Schitt's Creek. The Sun.
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David Harsanyi
I love guessing. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Like, it's a. He plays, like a priest or.
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Molly Hemingway
Yeah.
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David Harsanyi
Or a preacher.
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Molly Hemingway
And I like him. I think he's funny. But it just. Like, it began with gay stuff and it wasn't funny. And I was like, I'm out. I'm just out. I don't need. I'm. I would like to fill my mind with much better things than whatever this is. There was no payoff. It wasn't funny enough.
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David Harsanyi
Right.
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Molly Hemingway
Probably someone will say, oh, if you stick with it for six episodes, it starts to get better. I don't have that kind of time, so I'm just done. Yeah.
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David Harsanyi
They're always telling you to stick with it. No, thank you. The best shows have amazing opening scenes, I've noticed. Like, you're just immediately drawn into it. Like your strong opening scene to a show. Like, I think Breaking Bad.
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Blue Square Alliance Spokesperson
Here's a thought that shouldn't be controversial. You can think someone is completely wrong and still not hate them. I know. Wild. But somehow we've turned disagreement into a personality and hate into something people are way too comfortable with.
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Molly Hemingway
With.
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Blue Square Alliance Spokesperson
And it's not just happening in one place. Hate is rising across communities in different ways. And Jewish communities are getting hit especially hard right now. And hate doesn't just stay in one lane. It spreads. So even if you think this isn't your issue, give it a minute. You don't have to agree with people. You just have to decide you're not okay with hate. That's it. The blue square is a simple way to say that out loud. Go to bluesquarealliance.org, get a pin, share it or don't, but at least don't pretend this isn't happening. Happening.
- [53:53]
David Harsanyi
I watched a bunch of stuff, so I'm gonna split into two, but one of the things, I don't have a book out. I watched the show. You might have mentioned this. I'm unsure. Did you mention the Four Seasons TV show on Netflix?
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Molly Hemingway
Yes.
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David Harsanyi
Yeah.
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Molly Hemingway
It's the one that's like a TV series based on the book.
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David Harsanyi
On the movie.
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Molly Hemingway
On the movie.
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David Harsanyi
Yeah. I think so.
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Molly Hemingway
No, I don't remember. Sorry.
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David Harsanyi
As Tina Fey, Will Forte, I think is his name. Steve Carell and others. I didn't love everything about it. There are parts of it that are. I find annoying for, you know, political reasons. But generally I liked it. I enjoyed watching it. I think that it has this. It may be one of the first shows where it's. It's aimed at Gen Xers who are feeling old, I would say, these days. You know, I'm saying, who. I don't know. So it's interesting. It's about this group of friends. There's three couples. One is divorcing, and they meet, go on vacation every. Every year. And it was good. It's like eight episodes. I would. I recommend it, but we liked it, me and my wife. So we watched four movies. The original movie with Alan Alda, Carol Burnett, and this Rita Moreno's in it. And this actor called Jack Weston. People might not know him, but he is hilarious. And he's in this, the original movie, which is, I think, from 1981, which I also recommend. I thought it was funny.
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Molly Hemingway
Yeah.
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David Harsanyi
The least funny person in it was Carol Burnett, which is surprising, I would say, but maybe she's built for tv. The other things that I watch were. Were two not very good reboots. Like, one is they rebooted Malcolm in the Middle, which I don't know if you ever watched with the original. I. I thought was very funny. This is. Was also Wokish and not that funny. And Scrubs has a reboot which is almost exactly the same as the original Scrubs. It's almost like they never stopped in the. That's fine. It's okay.
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Molly Hemingway
I like Scrubs.
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David Harsanyi
Yeah, it's fine. It's kind of like, has a. You always has some kind of sentimental ending and a little lesson, a little exposition from. I forgot his name, the actor. And that was fine. It Was pretty good.
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Molly Hemingway
I forgot one.
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David Harsanyi
Yeah, please.
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Molly Hemingway
Can I. Can I do it? I don't remember exactly when we watched this, but it was crime 101. Oh.
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David Harsanyi
I was thinking. Can I tell you something?
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Molly Hemingway
Yeah.
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David Harsanyi
They stopped giving movies interesting names. Like, it's always some boring. And now they're just down to crime 101. He got pretty good reviews. And I'm like, I'm not gonna watch this.
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Molly Hemingway
It literally relates to the 101, the. The freeway in California. So it's not as bad as it seems.
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David Harsanyi
Okay.
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Molly Hemingway
And I. There were parts of this I really liked. I think ultimately, it kind of fell apart, but just on strength of cast, maybe they made it work for longer than it should have.
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David Harsanyi
So it's got Chris Hemsworth and Halle Berry, whose movies I will typically watch.
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Molly Hemingway
Yeah, she's.
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David Harsanyi
Nick Nolte's in it, huh?
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Molly Hemingway
Yep.
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David Harsanyi
All right. I haven't seen him around in a while.
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Molly Hemingway
Yeah, I think.
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David Harsanyi
Oh, I don't know if I can watch it, then. I can't stand that guy. He's the worst. First of all, he's a complete commie.
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Molly Hemingway
I mean, they all are. They're probably.
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David Harsanyi
But he never shuts up about it.
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Molly Hemingway
Yeah.
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David Harsanyi
Halle Berry is 60 years old, so she's.
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Molly Hemingway
She's getting it done. The woman is beautiful.
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David Harsanyi
Let me tell you this. Can I. I want to go back to Four Seasons I was watching with Alan Alda, and I'm like, these people just look old to me. They still look old to me. I'm 56 years old. I look it up. They're like, 42, 43. People looked older in the 70s and 80s. Somehow. I don't know what it is, or am I just. Just. Is it because I'm familiar with them and I knew them when they were older, that they seem older to me?
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Molly Hemingway
No, I think genuinely speak genuinely. The issue is that they were smoking and they weren't drinking water. So I do think that helps with some of the aging looks. But then also partly, it's a matter of perspective. I still remember seeing someone a few years ago who was super old when I was a kid. And I was like, how is he still alive?
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David Harsanyi
Like, oh, you're here.
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Molly Hemingway
And then I realized, like, he probably wasn't that old when I thought he was super old.
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David Harsanyi
It's like, I have this shirt that my kids, I think, gave me where it says, like, made in 1970, right. Or something like that. And I walk around with it sometimes, and very old people come up to me and say that they, too, were born in 1970. And it just does not make sense to me, you know, saying so. It's a perspective thing, I think.
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Molly Hemingway
I love it.
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David Harsanyi
Yeah, it's. It's difficult for me to tell, but it just seems to me like that people seem just look older in those movies. Maybe it's also stylistically, maybe they had more dignity. Like we're all walking around in T shirts and shorts when we're 50 or whatever and they, they were wearing ties and suits. Like, you know, it's like when I look a picture of my grandfather when he was 52 and I'm like, he looks like 80 years old in this picture.
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Molly Hemingway
I, I've been doing that more. After Secretary Duffy encouraged people to just try a little harder for their airplane trips, I now judge people. The moment I get into an airport, I'm like, this is a community that cares about the way they look or y' all didn't try at all whatsoever. And I want people to dress up a little more.
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David Harsanyi
How much do I need to dress up? Do I need to wear a tie or anything?
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Molly Hemingway
No, you don't, but you should look
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David Harsanyi
button down, I think.
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Molly Hemingway
Yeah. Fairly put together and business casual. I just think when you're going out too, we used to have occasions where people, you know, had to wear a certain type of thing and we should embrace more real live community, community action, community gatherings. Yeah.
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David Harsanyi
I'm happy that we can be more laid back, honestly, than our parents were. Don't you going out, I mean.
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Molly Hemingway
No, I think everyone looks like. They look like slobs. I believe people should consult me before getting a tattoo. I'm really, really frustrated that beautiful women will get ugly tattoos and then it's even worse when they' not beautiful women. Also with not beautiful tattoos. It's so sad. And people should, people should think about it before they do it. It's a permanent decision. Everyone.
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David Harsanyi
I, I didn't mention it, but I did watch these game. A few game shows like, like one's called the Floor with Rob Lowe, who also looks like he's 25 years old or something. And they have just normal people out on the floor, like a hundred. And almost every woman or I would say like 70% of women will have tattoos and we're talking about now 60, 50 year old women.
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Molly Hemingway
Right.
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David Harsanyi
And I'm not the women. I'm sure the men have, you know, the men also have tattoos quite often, but I just think it makes. It sometimes comes off a pretty masculine. When you have too many tattoos. Is that fair to say?
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Molly Hemingway
For me, it comes off So I, there are tattoos on people I know or people I've seen that are genuinely beautiful and well done and they're also tattoos that are very meaningful and I get all that. But a lot of people aren't putting the time, effort or energy into getting proper tattoos in the proper locations. And things do sag for me. It's not masculine per se so much as it indicates a lower class level. I know we don't have classes per se in this country, but have some respect for your appearance and your body.
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David Harsanyi
And it, it does seem to me recently that, that I see tattoos are just sort of randomly slapped on a body like people are putting thought into it anymore.
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Molly Hemingway
Upper thigh, low lower shin.
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David Harsanyi
It's like, what is it with that?
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Molly Hemingway
What's happening here?
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David Harsanyi
Anyway, I don't.
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Molly Hemingway
Yeah, sorry for the tirade. How much angry email will we get from our tattooed listeners? That's the question.
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David Harsanyi
We'll be back next week with more politics. Molly probably still be on the road. I don't know. We'll. We'll find out where she is.
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Molly Hemingway
I think I'll be done by then. Oh, everyone needs to buy Alito immediately if they have not already done so. Amazon, Barnes and Noble, I narrated the audiobook and you know, e reader, whatever. But like, the sooner you buy it, the better for the book. And if you could do that, that would mean a lot to me and
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David Harsanyi
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David Harsanyi
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