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To Rachel Mallison, fierce means “being brave for 30 seconds at a time.”

She should know a little about bravery. Rachel was working at the Capitol building in Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021 — and by 11:30 a.m., she knew it would be one of the worst days of her life.

At the time, Rachel was in emergency management and disaster response for the Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate. Now, she is the Senior Manager for Risks and Operations at the Aspen Institute, a nonprofit that brings people together to discuss the most pressing issues facing the world to ensure a more free, equitable, and just society.

From these and other impactful work and life experiences, Rachel takes on risk despite fear and doesn’t sweat what she can’t control. She’s the type of person who goes for it, even if she doesn’t check off each and every qualification. It’s this calculated risk-taking and scenario-planning — evaluating “What’s the worst that could happen?” — that’s gotten Rachel to where she is today.

In this episode, Rachel and Tara touch on everything from facing trauma in the moment and healing afterward to negotiating and openly discussing our salary with friends, socializing an idea up or down, making the most of situations in which we feel out of our depth, and much more.

In Rachel’s words, “You might as well take that first step, because who knows where it gets you?”

Take that first step with the support of your friends in the Fierce Lab community. Start by immersing yourself in Rachel’s incredible stories of her experiences in this episode of the Fierce Lab podcast.

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