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Caleb Hammer
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Brandon
So we have a talent manager. What does this mean? Yeah, how do you pay your talent manager?
Caleb Hammer
You don't make dick.
Reyna
He takes. He takes a percentage of my earnings.
Caleb Hammer
A percentage of 52 cents.
Reyna
The more.
Caleb Hammer
Why?
Reyna
The more money I spend on myself, the more money I make.
Brandon
You don't make any.
Caleb Hammer
From the views and everything I'm seeing, you likely don't have a talent.
Reyna
I'm talented, okay?
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, not a talent that people are interested in. Call your dad right now. Hello, Papa.
Reyna's Dad
Listen, you're a liar. And a
Brandon
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Reyna
Hi, I'm Reyna. I'm 26 years old and I live in central Tennessee and this is Financial audit.
Brandon
Welcome down to Austin.
Caleb Hammer
Happy to have you. Tennessee's cost of living has certainly gone up over the past couple years, especially central. Because I know like east is. And west is like scary and don't go there, you'll get shot. But.
Reyna
Well, I lived in west Tennessee and
Caleb Hammer
you're lucky you're alive. So what do you do there for a living?
Reyna
I'm a streamer and I rap cars.
Caleb Hammer
You work for Ramsey?
Reyna
Huh?
Caleb Hammer
Huh? Ramsay or like Daily Wire or like Money Guy?
Reyna
No, I stream.
Caleb Hammer
You stream on your own?
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
Yourself? You're solo?
Reyna
Yes.
Caleb Hammer
Good. And something you said, something about cars.
Reyna
I wrap cars. Like the vinyl wrapping?
Caleb Hammer
Is that the one that pays the bills?
Reyna
Well, I. I mean I just start.
Caleb Hammer
Which one pays the bills?
Reyna
I just started the rapping. So like I guess it's in there. But I'm like.
Caleb Hammer
How long have you been full time streaming?
Reyna
Like three years.
Caleb Hammer
What the fuck? I've never heard of you. Do we know this person?
Reyna
You've seen me before. There's no way you haven't.
Caleb Hammer
Show me Something I would have seen before. What was the big viral. Yeah.
Reyna
Okay, I'll show you.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, if you're.
Reyna
No way.
Caleb Hammer
I mean, you're anonymous right now because we don't allow people to plug shit and we're not protecting people. But, like, yeah, let's see what's going on.
Reyna
Okay. I will be very surprised if you haven't seen this, to be honest with you.
Caleb Hammer
We got an ego.
Reyna
It's not an ego. It's just, like, reality. Oh, it's not coming up? No, I swear.
Caleb Hammer
Hold on.
Reyna
Wait.
Caleb Hammer
That's curious.
Reyna's Dad
Babe, what are you doing?
Caleb Hammer
I'm not. That's my girlfriend.
Reyna's Dad
I'm skipping you.
Caleb Hammer
What are you talking about, bro? That's literally my girlfriend. You know this guy? I. I don't know. What are you doing with this guy?
Reyna
I don't know him.
Reyna's Dad
Don't know me.
Reyna
What do you.
Caleb Hammer
What does that even mean? Put this video on screen right now.
Reyna
I've never seen this guy.
Caleb Hammer
You were literally just at my apartment an hour ago. You said you went to go get
Reyna's Dad
your nails done an hour ago.
Reyna
I did get my nails done.
Caleb Hammer
This is real?
Reyna
No, it's not real. It was a skit.
Caleb Hammer
So what the is all went viral? Yeah, about, like, twins or something?
Reyna
No, it was like, what is it? It was like, hey, like, you're with my girl. And it was like, no, that's not your girl. That's my girl. And then he facetimes his girl, but
Caleb Hammer
it was then he fell off. What do you mean and then you fell off?
Reyna
Well, I didn't post that. That was his page.
Caleb Hammer
I got 200,000 followers.
Brandon
Okay, hold on.
Caleb Hammer
We actually have something here on TikTok. You don't get many views per post, though, do you?
Reyna
I just changed my car.
Caleb Hammer
What's up with women in cars?
Reyna
Listen, I always sit in cars and
Caleb Hammer
they do, like, a rant, and then they get no views, and then they cry.
Reyna
I do the lip singing videos, and then I tried to stop doing that, but that's what really pushes the views for me.
Caleb Hammer
So I guess I car rap video.
Reyna
Yeah, I rap cars.
Caleb Hammer
Okay. Those thighs are crazy. Okay, now I understand why the views are gotten. I think we understand it. Okay, Instagram311.
Reyna
That's not my actual account. I'll give you my other phone.
Caleb Hammer
What the heck is happening here? What's the difference between this phone and that phone?
Reyna
This was supposed to be, like, my social media phone because I was like, oh, my God. Like, I spend so much time on social media because I have to work all the time. And then I wanted to be, like. More like, get away from it. But this is better.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, 28,000 on Instagram. Okay. So you're not offing?
Reyna
No.
Caleb Hammer
This is interesting. Okay. You have a Model 3. I'm in your Tesla app.
Reyna
No, that's the rental that I got for today.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, okay. Do you make money? I'm confused about what. I'm trying to look at your. Let's see what's going on here. I gotta know. I gotta know what's happening. Last seen 13 hours ago on Twitch Fanfics, ladies and gentlemen.
Reyna
We got him. Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
What's that? I mean, I know what it is, but what's going on?
Reyna
Well, I just post, like, selfies on there because people really like to see just me because I have so many followers. They like to just have extra content.
Caleb Hammer
You post on Twitter. You have a Twitter link.
Reyna
I don't post on Twitter. Okay, you can go to my Twitter, but I don't use it.
Caleb Hammer
Nope, one post. Okay, what is going on? I'm so confused.
Reyna
I just. I like.
Caleb Hammer
Is this an actual career? I mean. Okay, I guess I should ask. What. What's the. Okay. Okay. Your stream duration was four hours yesterday. Oh. All right, Brandon, as someone who goes live on Twitch, are you ready? I think this is answering our questions. We're five minutes in. Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, I'm trying to figure this out. Average viewers was 15.
Reyna
Okay. That's a. Imagine being in a room with 15 people, though. Like, that's a lot of people.
Caleb Hammer
Not for making a living.
Reyna
Okay, so it.
Caleb Hammer
I mean, that's worse than idubbbz, and no one does worse than idubbbz.
Reyna
I don't know who that is.
Caleb Hammer
You've never been on the. Oh, you. How. This is your career. Okay. What are you. What the are you talking about?
Brandon
Unlock this shit.
Caleb Hammer
Unlock this. What the.
Brandon
You got no views.
Caleb Hammer
How.
Brandon
How are you making money?
Reyna
It's just. I'm making money.
Brandon
So that's your career.
Caleb Hammer
Fine, then tell me how much you make. Well, you gained a follower.
Reyna
I had to. I took a little break, but I was making like three to five thousand a month.
Caleb Hammer
What? Okay, well, even still, that's like central Tennessee. That is kind of hard, but go on.
Reyna
Okay. Last month I made 450.
Caleb Hammer
I. I just started ripping professional streamer. Professional streamer.
Reyna
Listen, I don't even know.
Caleb Hammer
I don't even know how much is happening.
Reyna
I don't even know how much I made.
Caleb Hammer
What a king lie.
Brandon
That's. Come on.
Caleb Hammer
Well, how long was your break? Why did you take a break?
Reyna
Because I started working at a car dealership. And so.
Caleb Hammer
And why did you do that?
Reyna
Because I was like, oh, hey, because
Caleb Hammer
you are making money probably, right?
Reyna
I don't. I really don't know how much I make.
Caleb Hammer
Stop the cap. What? I make that make sense. Okay, what does that mean?
Reyna
Even though my Twitch like, revenue is not there, like, I do sound promos.
Caleb Hammer
Like, what is the sound promo record label sounding Promos.
Reyna
What is the sound promo Record labels pay me to post songs.
Caleb Hammer
What the Talk? Because your TikTok, that gets a thousand views a video.
Reyna
I used to get like 50, 000 views.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, you get a thousand.
Reyna
Okay, Now, I haven't had a sound promo in a minute, but people cash at me money and they just send me.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, first of all, I mean, I'm just. This isn't ego boosting. It's not like, yeah, let's just talk real analytics. I mean, 50,000 on TikTok is nothing. That's a failed video. That's a flop that went to nobody. Like, just not really, though, because it's not 50,000 watches. They, like, saw it for a second and they swiped. If it only went to 50,000, people were just swiping through,
Reyna
but. But got the views, you know, kind of.
Caleb Hammer
And I mean, maybe people were dumb enough to pay for it. Are those freckles real?
Reyna
No, it's henna.
Caleb Hammer
Aha. Now I'm starting to understand your entire yes, you are attractive.
Reyna
Well, I have 200,000 followers.
Caleb Hammer
200,000 followers that don't watch you.
Reyna
No, they do. I just don't pop up on my for you page. But when I'm there, they pay attention to me. They just pay attention when they.
Caleb Hammer
That's how that works. By the way, if the content's not good, it doesn't get on anyone's for you page. Welcome to the algorithm. Well, the algorithm is not to keep people terminally online.
Reyna
That's why we all.
Caleb Hammer
To your 15 viewers.
Reyna
That's on Twitch. I go on TikTok.
Caleb Hammer
Give me your phone again. Then. Give me your phone again. I'm gonna screen record, just black out her shit because I'm not letting her plug herself. Knowing a woman like you, there's probably a lot of things on this phone anyway. Okay, TikTok studio. What? What do you want?
Reyna
I'm just confused.
Caleb Hammer
You're losing followers?
Reyna
Well, no.
Caleb Hammer
Your net is lost.
Reyna
I'm trying to switch my content, but
Caleb Hammer
I estimated pay previous. Can we have a guess? Wes, yell out a number so that Mike can Hear you on our TikTok.
Reyna
Can I guess.
Caleb Hammer
TikTok, previous seven days pay.
Reyna's Dad
Let's say 70 bucks.
Caleb Hammer
Okay.
Reyna
Can I guess.
Caleb Hammer
Let's do seven days. How many? $15. Okay. Yell at Colton. Oh, gosh. TikTok, what do you think she's made in the last seven days? Last seven days. I'm going to say two bucks. I want to say a dollar. 50 cents. Okay. 56 cents.
Reyna
I'm not posting minutes over or videos over a minute long.
Caleb Hammer
You backtrack so hard. Like, how are you making a living on this show?
Reyna
You're not sound promos.
Caleb Hammer
And then you said you don't do it anymore. Well, hey, remember when you said you get 50,000?
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
A post. You used to. Now you're only getting 78,000 a week across the board.
Reyna
That's a lot.
Caleb Hammer
No, you have fallen off.
Reyna
I don't think so.
Caleb Hammer
To be very clear. And that's. I mean, it's whatever. Like, I'm not. We're not trying to. Like.
Reyna
I also dyed my hair brown and that really tanked it now. Well, I had to go back to the paint.
Caleb Hammer
When did you do this? Going for sims. No, you haven't done well since May of last year. You fell off.
Reyna
No, that's not true.
Caleb Hammer
I have your literal. They're on screen right now.
Reyna
They're literally my posts.
Caleb Hammer
Huh.
Reyna
I thought you were looking at my posts. I was going to say I privated a lot of my posts.
Caleb Hammer
Why? Because down comments are down. Likes are down.
Reyna
Well, I have 150 TikToks in the plane and then in the Tesla, so I know those are gonna do good.
Caleb Hammer
No, that's not how that works. You're.
Reyna
It literally looks so good though. My pink hair with the white interior.
Caleb Hammer
So you're quantity over quality.
Reyna
The more you post, the more likely you are to get more views or
Caleb Hammer
the better content you post, the more like you are.
Reyna
All I have to do is lip
Caleb Hammer
sync though, to get your 50,000. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. To be clear, the best you've gotten was four to five thousand hours a month. That's gonna be hard to survive. I'm glad there's a guy in the picture or else I don't know how you would be. How long have you guys been together?
Reyna
A long time. We've lived together for two years.
Caleb Hammer
And does he pay the bill?
Reyna
Like one year now.
Caleb Hammer
Do you pay the bills?
Reyna
We split kind of. It's not really 50. 50. Like when. Whenever I. Your live analytics are horrible on Where Twitch or TikTok oh, no.
Caleb Hammer
Yes.
Reyna
I average more viewers on TikTok Live than I do Twitch.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, everyone does because Tick Tock will just shove it in everyone's face. And you still got practically like 50.
Reyna
Like 70.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, I see. Yeah, the brown hair. But you haven't had brown hair on Tick Tock in a second, dude.
Reyna
It was the blonde.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, but you're back there. But you're. You've been on pink for a second.
Reyna
Yeah, I think issue was is that
Caleb Hammer
honestly, are people there for that? Are they there for these?
Reyna
I don't do full body videos that much. It's my pink hair. I swear. That's like my brand. That's me.
Caleb Hammer
Okay. Your brand?
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
Fifteen viewers. I am criticizing this because you told me you're a professional Twitch streamer.
Reyna
Yeah, no, I did a 30 if you are.
Caleb Hammer
And this isn't criticizing them because they're grinding. I love. Well, actually Brandon doesn't stream anymore anyway, so either way. But Tyler does. Our boy Tyler, it gets like 40 to 50 concurrence a stream and I love him for that.
Reyna
Streaming every day. Well, yeah, I can't do that.
Caleb Hammer
Why?
Reyna
Because I'm wrapping cars.
Caleb Hammer
How frequently?
Reyna
I have two cars at the shop right now. And then I also have a talent manager.
Brandon
What does this mean? Yeah, how do you pay your talent manager?
Caleb Hammer
You don't make dick.
Reyna
He takes. He takes a percentage of my earnings.
Caleb Hammer
A percentage of $0.52?
Reyna
No. So he'll get me a sound promo with like a record label or like an independent.
Caleb Hammer
But you said you don't do those anymore. So he's not getting them.
Reyna
No, he hasn't been.
Caleb Hammer
Because you don't make money for him.
Reyna
I've made him money. You need Botox for my wrinkles on my forehead. Yeah, yeah, I know.
Caleb Hammer
Protecting you, girl.
Reyna
It's fine. But I'm a guy's girl. I'm literally. I'm literally saving for you.
Caleb Hammer
I'm helping you out.
Reyna
I'm saving for everything that I want to do.
Caleb Hammer
Well, shit, no, don't do that. You can't afford it. You can't afford life. I shouldn't have said that. I shouldn't have said that. How are you paying your portion of rent? Are you. Do you have a portion of rent?
Reyna
Yeah, it's half.
Caleb Hammer
What? How much?
Reyna
Well, like. Yeah, the full rent, I think is 1900.
Caleb Hammer
How are you even paying half though? Okay, so what are you making with the car part that you just took over?
Reyna
I don't know how much I make.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, my goodness. You're have you never looked at your accounts?
Reyna
I have, but there's just so much going on in the accounts that it's so hard to keep up. Like, I. I know with wrapping cars, I've probably made like 4,000 so far this year. And then I also have more cars sitting at the shop that I have to finish and then also get paid for those.
Caleb Hammer
You scrunching your forehead? Dude.
Reyna
Dude, I can't help it.
Caleb Hammer
You're. You're. Listen, the. I don't think about this for most guests. But you're on camera for a living. Well, shit. Actually, not really. So never mind. No, keep going. Keep scrunching. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Reyna
That's fine. That's fine. No, anyways, what were we saying before you brought up?
Caleb Hammer
Well, I was like, how much money you make?
Reyna
Yeah, it's somewhere around. If I were to guess how much I'm making a month, I would say 3 to 4,000. Because we have to also consider the cash apps, the donations.
Caleb Hammer
And what is that? Donations? Like the 15 people?
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
What do they get for it?
Reyna
They get to see me.
Caleb Hammer
What's on your special little naughty page?
Reyna
You want to see it?
Caleb Hammer
I guess. Yeah.
Reyna
It's not a naughty page. You're literally going to open it and be like, oh, who pays for this? But I love it.
Caleb Hammer
And I'm guessing the answer is, like, one person.
Reyna
No, I have, like, 60 subs on there.
Reyna's Dad
What?
Reyna
Oh, that's another thing. Yeah, fanfics. I make money from that.
Caleb Hammer
Well, yeah.
Reyna
Weekly. I get paid weekly. But where is it? Is it even.
Caleb Hammer
I told Colton that you like, that your fans think you're rich.
Reyna
Oh, my God.
Caleb Hammer
Keep up the appearance of rich.
Reyna
Thank you.
Caleb Hammer
But you're not. No, I'm not saying that. You told Colton that I have to. You're a. You don't know what I'm saying.
Reyna
I do know what you're saying. You said that I look like Colton,
Caleb Hammer
that you think you look like you're rich and you have to keep that appearance for them.
Reyna
I do have to keep the appearance. The more.
Caleb Hammer
Why?
Reyna
The more money I spend on myself, the more money I make.
Caleb Hammer
You don't make any.
Reyna
Well, that's because I spend on myself often. But, like, when I do.
Brandon
What are you talking about? You do not look bad.
Caleb Hammer
You're attractive. I think most any guy would. Okay, like, what are we talking about here? So, like, what is the issue? What. What money do you have to spend on yourself? The Botox thing was mostly a joke, but also I was noticing the Wrinkles, the scratch, the scrunching it. And you want to be on camera.
Brandon
Okay, but.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, sure, yeah. Who pays for this?
Reyna
I knew you would say that. But, like, people love to see it. They love to see it. It's like extra. Like, why?
Caleb Hammer
Because they're literally just Instagram things that are here, here, top down, camera. This is literally nothing. Okay, well, there's like a touch of cleave there, but not really.
Reyna
But, like, they get, like, extra stuff. It's like, oh, hey, watch.
Caleb Hammer
She's got extra stuff.
Reyna
It's just pictures that nobody else gets to see except for my subscribers.
Caleb Hammer
Wow. Yippee. And yeah, they are getting likes. Dude, men. Let's have a conversation about my gender real quick out there. You guys are being pathetic. Why are you paying for this? What are you doing? At least. At least that one's almost like a bra picture. But this is. This is like, so nothing. Oh, my gosh.
Reyna
Oh. What is wrong with that?
Brandon
I don't know.
Caleb Hammer
Why are you doing things?
Reyna
I don't know. It's a Samsung. I don't know.
Caleb Hammer
Anyways, it's time to give up.
Reyna
Give up what?
Caleb Hammer
This content creation thing. You're not in it. I'm sorry.
Reyna
Why don't I give it up?
Caleb Hammer
Okay, here's the reality. I'm just gonna lay down the reality. This kind of sucks. The reality is, from the views and everything I'm seeing, you likely don't have a talent.
Reyna
Talented?
Caleb Hammer
Okay. Yeah, not a talent that people are interested in. So you might have your own talent. So if you don't have anything that's contributing to the marketplace that people are willing to pay for or watch, you either gotta find that niche, which unfortunately, I don't. Just based on your. How long have you been trying this content creation?
Reyna
I started in 2023 and then I quit for like six months.
Caleb Hammer
It's time to move on. Time to get a career.
Reyna
I don't think so.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, I have 200,000 followers.
Brandon
Yeah, but you're not that far.
Caleb Hammer
First of all, let me be completely honest. As of about two years ago, followers mean nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Subscribers don't mean anything. Followers don't mean anything. Nothing.
Reyna
My dad would be so upset if I quit.
Caleb Hammer
Like, I don't give a. Why would he be upset?
Reyna
He got me into streaming. It was his dream for me to be a streamer.
Brandon
What?
Caleb Hammer
That's so weird, because this is guys gooning, usually because again, you don't do anything interesting. Okay, you streamed for three hours last night. What did you do? Show me. Pull up yesterday's stream.
Brandon
Pull up yesterday's stream.
Caleb Hammer
Pull up yesterday's stream.
Reyna
I don't even know p. Yesterday's stream. I don't think I can, cuz I have my. What's wrong with you?
Caleb Hammer
What was your stream last night? You have your vods off. Why are you just horrible at content creation?
Reyna
I'm not horrible.
Caleb Hammer
That's just like an easy thing.
Reyna
You don't get that with being Anyone
Caleb Hammer
can get 15 views anyways.
Reyna
Yeah, my vod is off. I don't have access to it. I was in the hotel room just like hanging out in bed, listening to music.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, it's time to get a career. You.
Reyna
That is a career.
Brandon
No, it's not for you. You're making a few hundred bucks a
Reyna
month, but that's just because I haven't been as consistent with it.
Caleb Hammer
At your max, you're making four. Yeah, that's likely not enough. Not enough to survive, and you've likely passed that peak.
Reyna
But if I get to that point again where I'm making four, then I can, like, save it and then day trade and what? Get rid of.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, I'm just gonna ignore that part because. Shut the up. This cannot be your mentality. You're. No, that cannot be your mentality.
Reyna
So many people get so rich off of streaming.
Caleb Hammer
What's your boyfriend do?
Reyna
He's a vocal engineer.
Caleb Hammer
Vocal engineer? Does he actually make money?
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
So this is why you're able to just around forever. What do you mean? What do you think?
Brandon
I guess you are.
Caleb Hammer
You make. You think you make a couple thousand hours a month. Detailing.
Reyna
Not detailing. It's wrapping.
Brandon
Wrapping.
Caleb Hammer
Whatever.
Reyna
Very different.
Brandon
Yes, it is different.
Caleb Hammer
I don't care.
Reyna
I used to detail.
Caleb Hammer
Let me ask you something. How long have you been planning to deal with your debt? Six months? A year? Two years?
Brandon
Every time you make a payment, you say, I'll figure this out next month.
Caleb Hammer
But you're just waiting for the perfect time, the perfect paycheck, the perfect plan to magically appear. Meanwhile, that interest is stacking up late, fees are hitting.
Brandon
And that balance, it is not shrinking, it's growing.
Caleb Hammer
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Brandon
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Brandon
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Caleb Hammer
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Brandon
So you go to everydollar.
Caleb Hammer
That's Dave Ramsey, the personal finance finance guy, right? Well, they're gonna force you to use it his way. That's not very personal finances. Rocket Money, they got a lot of
Brandon
commercials, but they're owned by Rocket Mortgage.
Caleb Hammer
Guess what they want to sell you in the end. Then there's the new guy on the block. Monarch. Hundreds of millions of dollars of private equity raising so far.
Brandon
But private equity doesn't have the best track record when it comes to private data.
Caleb Hammer
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Reyna
What the fuck is wrong with 22 refund? Because I didn't file for the likes the last couple.
Caleb Hammer
We gave you a refund for not great. Okay. 57 from streaming. 500 from streaming. The Roan Gifts. $25. Did I not senior pay. I see Zell in 721. Is that rapping?
Reyna
No.
Caleb Hammer
So I don't have rap income that. Wait, if you just filed for 2022 have you paid for the last four, three years?
Reyna
No, I'm working on getting caught up. I filed for 2021 and 2022 last year.
Caleb Hammer
I just. How. What the. Why are you in our society? Why do we allow this?
Brandon
What?
Reyna
I'm friendly and I get views and
Brandon
people like to watch out.
Caleb Hammer
Why are you. You're gaslighting yourself. No, you are gaslighting yourself. You don't get views. Your content is nothing. You're sitting there listening to music. What's the most interesting thing you've done on content?
Reyna
On content?
Caleb Hammer
Yes.
Reyna
My streaming is, like, really interesting. But also I made another page. I have another TikTok page that I've been working on growing.
Caleb Hammer
Is it growing?
Reyna
It's talking about me and my financial situation and getting better with my finances and getting rich.
Caleb Hammer
Says the wannabe day trader. Pull it up.
Reyna
People tagged you in these videos. I'm so scared now.
Caleb Hammer
Yes, well, I don't open that up here.
Reyna
Oh, shoot. Here.
Caleb Hammer
They said she's. She needs to go on financial audit. Is that what they were saying?
Reyna
I thought that they were.
Caleb Hammer
You look better here than you looked on. And then you look in these videos,
Reyna
you say I look better there?
Caleb Hammer
No, here. Oh, don't put your hair up.
Reyna
Don't put my hair up? Well, I had to put extensions in to come on the show, so.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, is that what it is? Yeah, it looks better.
Reyna
I thought so too. Which. That's another thing. I put the extensions in. I know it's gonna do better now.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, maybe. This is a good look.
Reyna
That's my natural hair.
Caleb Hammer
That one's good. Okay, you get no views. People are tagging you. Tagging me? What do you mean you get no views? Who's tagging me?
Reyna
There was a video.
Caleb Hammer
This is just another thing where she gets no views. Like, what are we talking about?
Reyna
I grew that to 2,000 followers in like two weeks.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, maybe it'll be something. I don't know. But again, followers don't matter much. It's views that matter, revenue that matters. This isn't like 2020, 2016. It's just not. Shorts are just. They're easy.
Reyna
They're not easy.
Caleb Hammer
And this is why I think you should move on.
Reyna
Why? Cuz I think. Don't think it's easy.
Caleb Hammer
I don't think you. I just. I don't think. Okay, you can go. But you're. But you're talking. What are you even talking about in those videos? Cuz you mentioned day trading here. So it's like, what?
Reyna
In the video, I was like, oh, like I'm going to get rich next year. So. But my first step is I have to file bankruptcy and I need to start wrapping cards and I.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, so what's your big mega brain plan to get rich?
Reyna
Day trading. After I save money.
Caleb Hammer
Okay. And go ahead, tell me about your day trading strategy.
Reyna
Oh, I want to do futures. I don't really know much about it, but I just know that people get rich from it.
Caleb Hammer
People get rich from it. The vast majority lose money. Day trading, it's like 85%.
Reyna
My brother was doing it full time and he's pretty successful.
Caleb Hammer
Was? Yeah, was.
Reyna
Well, he quit now. He just doesn't.
Caleb Hammer
Why did he quit?
Reyna
I don't know. He just travels now.
Caleb Hammer
Call him.
Reyna
Call him.
Caleb Hammer
Call him, asshole.
Reyna
He probably won't answer.
Caleb Hammer
Why? You guys don't like each other?
Reyna
No, we love each other. He just like. We just have that relationship where it's like, call him. I'm calling him.
Caleb Hammer
What is wrong with you?
Reyna
Do you want that? I'm telling you, he's talking about most likely not going to answer.
Caleb Hammer
We'll see. We'll see. And you'll text him, What a pussy. So he day traded, Made enough to move on?
Reyna
I guess so. He also sells life insurance, though. But, like, the day trading was a big thing, but. So the plan is to really pop off even more on streaming.
Caleb Hammer
Here's the thing. Let's just be honest. You just want to be known. That's all you care about. You just want to be popular.
Brandon
No one know.
Caleb Hammer
Hey, I was literally. The video you just sent me. The video just sent me. Your face was blurred for like, half
Reyna
of it, the other, the end of it, it was unblurred.
Caleb Hammer
You were swatted?
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
Which one of your 15 swatted you?
Reyna
I don't know. I have no idea. All I know is I was swatted three nights in a row.
Caleb Hammer
Three nights in a row.
Reyna
Yeah, but the cops only showed up for one of. Well, like, they only, like, shut down the block and got us out of the house the first night. That was the only night where they were like, hey, like, you're bad.
Caleb Hammer
Those are bad people, obviously.
Reyna
But the next couple nights, they just sent two.
Caleb Hammer
I just think you want to be famous and you're just allowing this guy to sugar daddy you.
Reyna
I'm okay. I am already, like, there. Where Famous.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, my. She's so delusional. I don't know how to make it through this conversation. Because you're so gone.
Brandon
You live in an.
Caleb Hammer
You're not famous. You're not famous. Okay, let's do the example thing. The comparison. Okay, comparison again. Okay, so let me just. Fucking ego real quick, dude. We got like the top 10 podcasts on the Internet. I'm not even famous.
Reyna
It's a top 10.
Caleb Hammer
Yes. Oh, billions of views.
Reyna
Billions.
Caleb Hammer
Billions. Billions on TikTok, billions on YouTube. Three billion on YouTube.
Reyna
There's not even like a billion people in the world.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, how this guy. Okay, yeah, you're, you're getting reactions in the room. You're, you're stupid. Listen and like what I mean, I get recognized. Yes, but it's not famous. You're never going to be famous. What are you going to do?
Reyna
I'm going to be counting what's famous.
Caleb Hammer
What's famous to you?
Reyna
Influential. Like people. Like somebody that people can look up to and no one's looking up to,
Caleb Hammer
I guarantee, I promise you. But go on, continue.
Reyna
There's people.
Caleb Hammer
Continue.
Reyna
Rich and being somebody that people can look up to and like helping others help it.
Caleb Hammer
You can do all that without being famous?
Reyna
Not, not to an extent.
Caleb Hammer
Well, not to an extent. What extent?
Reyna
Like just being somebody who can make people's days better.
Caleb Hammer
You can do that by volunteering. You can do that by doing a lot of things. Teaching, like, again, I don't want you
Reyna
anywhere near that good.
Caleb Hammer
Thank goodness every parent in the world just celebrated when they heard that. I, I, I don't, I don't understand. Like, what, what do I do here? If you think you're already known and you're not, and I probably need you to go make more money because you can't even tell me how much money is coming in. And all that basically came in last month was a few hundred bucks plus a tax refund for multiple years ago. And you're still owe multiple years. I'm surprised they didn't just already automatically withhold those. Like, what the is going on when I'm having to cut millions of dollars of taxes a year and we're subsidizing this creature. Who even knows Our, our system is so backwards. I'm starting to learn from the show.
Reyna
I'm not taking advantage of any.
Caleb Hammer
Reality is you're probably going to need to get another job. But if you're so convinced you're already known and all this stuff, how I'm going to be able to do that? How am I going to be able to convince you I'm not going to be able to.
Reyna
Their job.
Brandon
Yeah, but you don't even know it comes in.
Caleb Hammer
And when you say you do, you said it was like 2500 for the wrapping. Yes.
Reyna
No.
Caleb Hammer
How much did I hear wrong?
Reyna
I said, like, I made like 4,000 this year so far.
Caleb Hammer
This year? Dude, we're in the second month of
Reyna
this year, halfway through this month.
Caleb Hammer
So 2000amonth then. 2500amonth.
Reyna
Well, I only had, like one car last month or two.
Caleb Hammer
And how many cars this month?
Reyna
I have like two or three on my schedule when I get back.
Caleb Hammer
Do they ever cancel? I know it's inconsistent, though. Two or three happening when you get back doesn't mean two or three next month either, though.
Reyna
True. But I'm subcontracting for a company.
Caleb Hammer
Oh.
Reyna
So they.
Caleb Hammer
Until they don't want that anymore. Until they don't want that anymore for whatever reason.
Reyna
It's not gonna happen, though.
Caleb Hammer
Okay. It's a lot of confidence. I don't know. You're confident in everything. I don't really understand it. So what's going on? Like, what is happening in your life right now? What are we talking about?
Reyna
I wanna make more money.
Caleb Hammer
You are so lucky. Yes.
Brandon
The best way to do that is
Caleb Hammer
give up on your pathetic dream. Cause it's not gonna be a thing. It's never been a thing. Go get a job working in an office. Make some money. Get a career. Use the course. Career certification. Get an actual career going, like many people in the audience have.
Brandon
Make money.
Caleb Hammer
What is wrong with you? Do that. Stop basically sucking a dude's dick to live with him and be able to have the bills paid so you can be a wannabe influencer when you never will be and never have been.
Reyna
I'm literally. So I'm also gonna start my own,
Caleb Hammer
like, no, please, nothing. No. What?
Reyna
I want my own rapping studio. My own studio.
Caleb Hammer
Meaning you're getting a brick and mortar.
Reyna
Yeah. Or I could also, on top of that, like, do, like, at home. Like, people call me out.
Caleb Hammer
How much debt do you have?
Reyna
Maybe 20,000.
Caleb Hammer
Just about. How the fuck are you getting a break?
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Caleb Hammer
Equal housing lender Mortar with 20,000 when you're spending literally thousands more than you make a month.
Reyna
Do I have to pay that though? Like it's in collections.
Brandon
Depending.
Caleb Hammer
Some of it's in collection, some of it's not. Listen, like, you got cash app shit going on too. It's like, dude, you're broke it even. Still with collections, who's going to approve you to rent a brick and mortar?
Reyna
I'll buy it or get a cosigner.
Caleb Hammer
Cosigner maybe.
Brandon
But this is, this is a business lease.
Caleb Hammer
It's not the same as getting a rental of your own. Sound like getting.
Reyna
How is it any different?
Caleb Hammer
First of all, I mean a lot of businesses, they want to see years or minimum six months of a successful business going on before they allow you to sign a multi year lease. They're gonna lock you in for like three years, minimum. Two if you're lucky. But you're gonna be begging in a bad market or something.
Reyna
Then once it gets really successful, then I can just buy it out.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, but how do you get it in the first place then? If you're. They run your credit, you're. Your business has nothing. You're.
Reyna
I'll just make enough money.
Caleb Hammer
That doesn't make sense.
Reyna
I'll have enough money.
Caleb Hammer
You still have to get approved and you're gonna have to do like, especially if you're risky, you're gonna have to do multiple months up front. Multiple months of a business lease. It's gonna be expensive. You need a full garage and space. It's gonna be expensive. Central Tennessee. It's gonna be expensive.
Reyna
It can't be too expensive.
Caleb Hammer
Your boyfriend's just paying for everything. Why does he put up with this? Because you're kind of hot. Is that it? Honestly, is that it?
Reyna
No, because he's not paying for everything.
Caleb Hammer
No way. He's not. You don't make money or else the death is going up. It has to be like, well, what else?
Reyna
No, we're both, we're both.
Caleb Hammer
I'm being told if he doesn't pay for something, you lean on someone else and borrow from them.
Reyna
That. Yeah, that has happened a couple times.
Caleb Hammer
So it's that.
Reyna
Yeah, but when I'm up, he might be down and when he's up, I might be down. So then like we said, you're never up.
Caleb Hammer
You've never been up. Where's your up? Your best month was four.
Reyna
When I was an assistant manager at an auto shop. I had a $50,000 salary I was doing.
Caleb Hammer
I was up. I mean, it's okay up compared to
Reyna
what I am now. I mean, like, everything is up compared
Caleb Hammer
to where you are now, except for homelessness. Go get that job again. Work your way up.
Reyna
Become general manager 60 hours a week. I don't need to do that.
Caleb Hammer
Don't need to do that. What is don't need to do that? I think you do. You don't make money. You're not paying debt. You have collections. You're.
Reyna
I'm not doing 60 hours a week. I can't do it.
Caleb Hammer
It's a temporary thing. You're 26. Like, that's not that bad at that time. This is the time to do it. This is when you have energy and then become gm.
Reyna
I don't really have.
Caleb Hammer
Work your way up. What do you mean you don't have energy? Shut the up.
Reyna
I don't.
Caleb Hammer
I don't get your iron balance.
Reyna
It's not iron. It's my white blood cell count.
Caleb Hammer
Do an infusion or whatever you need to do. I don't give a shit. I don't know.
Reyna
I don't know what it has to do.
Caleb Hammer
Dude, what, are you just gonna give up then? You're not gonna work? Are you gonna be a. You're literally gonna be a business owner, but you're saying you can't work 60 hours a week? That doesn't make any sense.
Reyna
Different. Like, I don't like working for somebody else.
Caleb Hammer
There it is. That's what it actually is.
Reyna
Versus getting myself rich. I don't like having a.
Caleb Hammer
You're not going to be able to get yourself rich. You don't know how to. You don't know how to run a business to save your life. You can't even run your own life. You couldn't get past. Dude, you're literally set up for everything, and you only get 15 views. Like, you're set up for a thousand concurrents.
Reyna
Oh, yes.
Caleb Hammer
At minimum.
Brandon
Yes.
Reyna
I can get a thousand.
Caleb Hammer
Yes, but you don't. Which is indicative just how much of a failure you are at everything you try to do.
Reyna
But if, like, I went all in on. Because I'm not, like, all in on streaming. I'm just like.
Caleb Hammer
But listen, if you can't work 60 hours a week, I don't know how you're going to be all in on streaming.
Reyna
Well, I just recently got obsessed with a game. So, like, I've been streaming one singular game.
Caleb Hammer
Until you fall off.
Reyna
Well, no, I. My goal is to get, like, the top rank in that game that I can.
Caleb Hammer
What game?
Reyna
It's Valerant. It's going to be a long, long thing though too. Cuz I'm the worst absolute rank that you can get, so it's going to take me a long time.
Caleb Hammer
Dude, okay, just shut the up. I. I don't know how this guy deals. How do you guys have conversations? Does he encourage you?
Reyna
No, he pushes me a lot.
Caleb Hammer
Pushes you? What do you mean by that? Pushes you in what direction?
Reyna
Like to do more and like what kind?
Caleb Hammer
Away, like away from your bullshit?
Reyna
Um, no. Like he's like, oh, like you should do this to like help yourself grow. And like he just like pushes me to like grow on social media and then also like the rapping thing. Like he's really supportive of like me doing that.
Caleb Hammer
Have you ever had an of.
Reyna
No.
Caleb Hammer
That's good. That's good. I'm just honestly surprised because you're kind of dumb and hot, so usually that just kind of goes into that. No one's ever encouraged you, right?
Reyna
People tell me a lot too.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, but like anyone close to you. Oh, no, that's good, that's good. I don't want you to. I don't want you to whore yourself. I want you to go back to the. How long were you at this car dealership? As an assistant manager.
Reyna
Which one?
Caleb Hammer
As an assistant manager.
Reyna
I wasn't at the dealership as an assistant manager. That was a shop. Okay, how long and that was eight months. The first time or. No, the second time. The first time was a year.
Caleb Hammer
Why'd you leave?
Reyna
I moved.
Caleb Hammer
Can you use that experience and get something similar to where you are now?
Reyna
I tried when we first moved to where we're at now. Nothing happened. I didn't get any interviews. I got one, but they wanted to pay like $15 an hour and I was like, no, it's not happening. I haven't applied in a while. I just don't want to work 60 hours a week for salary.
Caleb Hammer
Like there's no overtime, but you'll get more money as you. This is like your investment into the career to go up. You're automotive obsessed.
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
Okay.
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
That's your big thing.
Reyna
That's like my. That's where all my experience is. Work wise.
Caleb Hammer
Experience or passion?
Reyna
Both.
Caleb Hammer
You like it? Okay.
Reyna
Oh yeah.
Caleb Hammer
So we want to double down there
Brandon
then there's a great.
Caleb Hammer
There's a great career there. Work 60 hours a week for a year or two. Move up, man. Use this experience to.
Brandon
Dude, you can make some money.
Caleb Hammer
Have you done sales?
Reyna
Oh, yes.
Caleb Hammer
And how you do sales. But you're. But you're.
Reyna
I'm not confident in my sales. I made $2,000 selling cars in like three months.
Brandon
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
Fuck. Okay.
Reyna
Yeah, not good.
Caleb Hammer
I think you could get any guy to sign on the dotted line, but I guess not.
Reyna
Mm.
Caleb Hammer
Such an ugly era.
Reyna
I was blonde. The pink head's better.
Caleb Hammer
I guess. I mean, if it's the E Girl personality, it's not usually my go to. But like, I understand what people are, you know, I understand that people are into it, but.
Reyna
Yeah, no, not good at sales.
Caleb Hammer
Okay.
Reyna
Something else.
Caleb Hammer
I just need you to get back into it. You need to make some money.
Reyna
Oh, yes. Okay. So I forgot with the wrapping cars. I'm also incorporating that into my content, which you saw. Which those videos do better.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, but the thighs.
Reyna
No, I'm doing it a shop. I wear like sweats every day now. They don't. I don't need to wear the shorts.
Caleb Hammer
Those get less views.
Reyna
Well, yeah, because I'm doing it kind of differently because I started the girl.
Caleb Hammer
You got to know the meta. I'm not saying whore yourself online, but you got to know the matter. I know my meta. You got to know your meta. I'm sorry, My meta is my care.
Reyna
It's the pink hair and the piercings.
Caleb Hammer
Why do you think that? That. That's the. That's it.
Reyna
Because whenever I dye my hair any other color, my views tank.
Caleb Hammer
Okay. That's a part of it. They want the E Girl person Persona.
Reyna
But E Girl, what is that? Yeah, I've heard the term. I just don't know like, what. I thought that was like the only fancy,
Caleb Hammer
like, streamer, that kind of stuff. But it's honestly, I mean, the one reason you have that pinned and it's like better views. It's the thick thighs.
Reyna
That's literally one video.
Caleb Hammer
And that's like one of your best performing videos.
Reyna
Such a good video.
Caleb Hammer
It's the thighs. I'm sorry, I think it's not trying to sexualize you specifically.
Brandon
No, it wasn't the Mustang.
Caleb Hammer
You don't think people are into the thighs? Come on. You're so egotistical about your followers that are non existent, basically, or your viewers that are nonexistent. But you can't be egotistical about your thighs.
Reyna
No, they weren't like the pink hair and the car.
Caleb Hammer
You know, you're meta. And again, I'm not specifically trying to sexualize you.
Reyna
I'm just.
Caleb Hammer
Whatever. Everyone knows you're attractive. We get it. Okay, Very good. It's specifically that. That was your high viewed video. You got the thighs. Everyone just saw them. Congratulations, well done on them. You work out?
Reyna
Not anymore.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, well maybe that's why they were better at one point, but it's just like, come on.
Reyna
Yeah.
Brandon
And listen, you don't have to go into that if you don't want to,
Caleb Hammer
but if your entire future is based off of you think that's the highest viewed video because of a Mustang, I just have bad news for you. That's what I'm trying to say. That's what I'm trying to get across.
Reyna
So you don't think I should just buy another Mustang for the views?
Caleb Hammer
Did you buy that Mustang?
Reyna
Yeah, that was mine. I owned it fully, but I sold it. I don't have it anymore.
Caleb Hammer
Did you make a profit when I sold it? Yes.
Reyna
Oh God, no.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, for sake. What are we doing?
Reyna
No, I lost money on that one. It was a mach one too. It was a five speed. It was manual.
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Reyna
I. That might be like the struggle that I've had with it though.
Caleb Hammer
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Are you finally coming around?
Reyna
It's hard for me to open up to like that. Like, I just want, like, I kind of like dress like a boyish kind of.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, you got. You got a baggy, baggy shirt. And I don't know, you're wearing some kind of short shorts.
Brandon
Like, that's not.
Caleb Hammer
I wouldn't say that was like a guy.
Reyna
It's a man's shirt.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, but like also. But your thighs were showing, right?
Reyna
Yeah, it was because my tattoos. It was like, I like this.
Caleb Hammer
But if you lifted up the guy, sure. It would have been like booty shorts probably. So, like. No, I. I'd say you're still, you know, putting out there. You're putting out there. Casual girl.
Reyna
Oh, sweet. That's like my vibe.
Caleb Hammer
Exactly. But again, this is. Okay, sorry.
Reyna
Oh, okay.
Caleb Hammer
This is like. That's what's happening. I don't want you to expect that all of a sudden you're gonna do so good. And the only reason you're just around and being honestly an imbecile with you thinking you're understanding on the Internet right now. Your position on the Internet is because this sounds like this guy completely subsidized.
Reyna
No.
Caleb Hammer
And other people.
Brandon
And other people.
Reyna
I know how to get more famous.
Caleb Hammer
How? What's your strategy?
Reyna
I need to clip. I need to do my clipping.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, but what's the content, asshole?
Reyna
Me doing good at valorant and getting better. And then also.
Caleb Hammer
No, she's done. She's. You haven't made a joke. We've been filming 42 minutes and I haven't heard a joke. Where's your funny? I haven't heard funny.
Reyna
It's just me.
Caleb Hammer
Okay. Wow. Classic. Attractive girls think she Is like top tier at everything. They think just because she's attractive, they want to.
Reyna
No, they don't. Not all of them. Majority of them don't.
Caleb Hammer
Yep. They're there for your personality and brains. Yeah, that's why your boyfriend's there subsidizing you too.
Reyna
He's not. I'd say because you're.
Caleb Hammer
Because of your valorant skills. What about your dad?
Reyna
Yeah, no, my dad's, like, paying for, like, my stuff. Like, anything.
Caleb Hammer
Still at 26, will you live with your boyfriend? You're pathetic. What is wrong with you? No, you're pathetic.
Brandon
Huh?
Reyna
Anything for me.
Caleb Hammer
And that's pathetic. That's pathetic.
Reyna
He just.
Caleb Hammer
That's enabling. Beyond enabling.
Reyna
So supportive of me being a streamer. Like, he just knows that I'm gonna, like, do. Do it. Do it.
Caleb Hammer
Well, does he know that you likely will need to sew cheeks to be famous?
Reyna
Do what?
Brandon
Dude, even the most. Even the successful women streamers that do
Caleb Hammer
content that isn't even sexual are showing cleavage and booty. Like, I'm sorry, all of them out there. I'm not. Who do we got? Senna, Pokimane, Emeru. All those stuff, huh? Amaranth? Well, yeah, but she's of. Those other ones aren't though, I don't think. But they're showing cleave and like, they
Brandon
got the booty show.
Caleb Hammer
Like, you don't understand this. How do you not understand the meta here?
Brandon
And I'm not even again, I'm not
Caleb Hammer
trying to sexualize you. I'm not saying do that. I just. You think you're going to be successful. Your dad thinks you're going to be successful.
Brandon
No, you're not. That's what it is. It's a bunch of gooners.
Reyna
They have to do that to be successful is what you're saying.
Caleb Hammer
Oh my gosh. If you look at the successful women, that's what they're doing. Unless there's an instance of someone I haven't heard of. Can you tell me that person? I'll look them up. Probably not. What do you think your financial score is? 0. 10. 0 being the worst, 10 being the best.
Reyna
Probably a 3.
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Reyna
It is collections. Oh, except for the two credit cards that my dad gave me.
Caleb Hammer
That your dad gave you?
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
What do you mean? Hey, Gabe. What are you doing?
Reyna
I was. I have a mark from when I was wrapping cars and I got. Sorry.
Caleb Hammer
Does that hurt?
Reyna
Not really. It's just like, healing.
Caleb Hammer
Okay. You need a band Aid.
Reyna
No, it's not like an open wound.
Brandon
Okay. What the.
Caleb Hammer
Is going on with the City Diamond Preferred card? What do you mean? He gave it.
Reyna
Which one is that?
Caleb Hammer
Is that the one with the City Diamond Preferred card? I. It might be now, but at the point of the statement, it was 3844.33.
Reyna
Oh, yeah. It's like, at 5000 now.
Caleb Hammer
I even heard a sound from Colton. He didn't even know this. Kill me now. What are you doing? Why. Why is it 5,000? Pull it up. Pull it up on your phone right now. Right the now.
Reyna
Well, it's my dad. Right now. It's my dad's account. I don't think I can.
Caleb Hammer
What? It's. You're not even, like, an authorized user on it. This isn't even your debt.
Reyna
One.
Brandon
Oh, my God. It's the City Diamond Preferred card.
Reyna
I don't know which one that is. No, it's my debt. It's just my. Well, kind of. I mean, it's. I spent it, but it gets on my dad's card.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah. Are you an authorized user on this card?
Reyna
One of them. The other one. I'm not.
Caleb Hammer
How do you get. Tell me which one. Tell me which one.
Reyna
They're both city. I know. That one's a black card, and then the other one's blue.
Caleb Hammer
And which one is it? Which one are you.
Reyna
Oh, I'm authorized. On the black card.
Caleb Hammer
Do I have the other card?
Reyna
No. Cause he just gave it to me.
Caleb Hammer
So this is probably the one you're an authorized user on, then.
Reyna
Yes. Yes, yes. Yeah, you're right. Sorry.
Caleb Hammer
Your minimum payment is 450 bucks. Pull up the statement. Pull up the app on your phone. It's right. It's on there, right? Asshole. You pulled the statement? How'd you pull the statement? Or did your daddy do it for you? Did your daddy pull the statement for you?
Reyna
No, he didn't. You're pathetic.
Caleb Hammer
What is wrong with you?
Reyna
I'm not. It's my dad. He just helps me whenever I can. Oh, let me see.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, call your dad.
Reyna
I got.
Caleb Hammer
Call your dad right now.
Reyna
Are you sh.
Caleb Hammer
Am I sure? Yes. I'm not afraid of someone's dad. An E girl dad.
Reyna
I'm not an E girl. Do you want. Do you want me to do an introduction or you just want him? He's at work. He might not answer.
Caleb Hammer
Okay. Why is everyone might not answer with you?
Reyna
He'll call back though. I know for a fact.
Caleb Hammer
Told that to your brother too.
Reyna's Dad
Your call has been forwarded.
Reyna
You told my brother?
Caleb Hammer
Yes. So you can't even pull up the saving this six? Listen, this takes like 20 years to pay off. Now if you make your minimum, minimum monthly payment without purchasing anything, and I know for a fact you're purchasing.
Reyna
I don't even know how to make the payment.
Caleb Hammer
Does your dad pay for you just the minimum?
Reyna
I don't know.
Caleb Hammer
I need to talk to this guy. What the is going on here? How are you ever going to survive? You're just enabled. You're spoiled.
Brandon
You're such a.
Reyna
My brother texted back. He said he's in a meeting room.
Caleb Hammer
You're pathetic.
Reyna
No, I'm meeting. Dude, you're 26.
Caleb Hammer
You don't even know what your dream is. You have like five.
Reyna
I have so many. There's so many things that I want to do. One dream, being an automotive content creator and building cars.
Caleb Hammer
Building cars?
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
That is a niche. But you got to do something special because that niche is very solidified.
Reyna
I have pink hair. It's already special.
Caleb Hammer
I bet there's someone else out there.
Reyna
Well, yeah.
Caleb Hammer
You think you're the only pink haired girl?
Reyna
No, but it's just, you know, it's. It's my vibe. Oh, my brother's calling. Is it? You're gonna have to do the speaker thing.
Reyna's Dad
Hey.
Caleb Hammer
Hey, brother. She wants to day trade like you to make a living forever.
Brandon
How much money did you make?
Caleb Hammer
Day trading?
Reyna's Dad
Like yearly or like best day?
Caleb Hammer
Yeah. How much money did you make? Completely.
Reyna's Dad
I've kind of averaged right around 90 a year so far.
Caleb Hammer
Are you done? Have you quit? She said you quit. Why would you quit? I didn't quit.
Reyna
Oh, I thought she thought you quit.
Caleb Hammer
She thinks she's gonna be a professional day trader. She Wants to do futures.
Reyna's Dad
That's disgusting.
Brandon
Oh, what?
Caleb Hammer
That's how things. She thinks she's gonna make a living forever?
Reyna
Why is that disgusting? That's not disgusting.
Reyna's Dad
Just go trade crypto if you're gonna trade futures.
Reyna
Yes, yes.
Caleb Hammer
What do you day trade?
Reyna's Dad
Only blue collar, like over five hundred thousand dollar market cap options. So Facebook, Tesla, things like that. But I also have people sitting in my office right now, so I gotta go. I thought maybe someone died and that this was important.
Caleb Hammer
Well, it's more important, but thank you.
Reyna
Love you.
Caleb Hammer
Call your daddy back. He called.
Reyna
Here you go.
Caleb Hammer
I gotta talk to this.
Reyna
Hello?
Caleb Hammer
Hello, Papa.
Reyna's Dad
What?
Caleb Hammer
Hello?
Reyna's Dad
Hello?
Caleb Hammer
Hello, sir. I'm with your daughter.
Reyna's Dad
Oh, hi.
Caleb Hammer
How are you? Good. I'm doing wonderful. Why the are we giving her thousands of dollars of credit card usage instead of her growing up and getting a job?
Reyna's Dad
Because I ain't got a lick of sets.
Caleb Hammer
You have a lick of. Whoa. What's your sense?
Reyna's Dad
I don't. I don't have any.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, I agree. Thank you. Very good. Why do you want her to be a professional streamer?
Reyna's Dad
Listen, I thought it would be a good idea. She wasn't doing anything else. Why not stream? She's got the personality for it.
Caleb Hammer
I think that answers it, right? I think she needs to get a job. She's wrapping cars right now, but her income's so inconsistent.
Reyna's Dad
I agree. I agree with you on that one.
Caleb Hammer
Now why do you keep paying for her life? Because my big thing here is if we keep paying for her life, she's never going to feel the pressure to actually go do shit.
Reyna's Dad
Well, the credit cards is a big issue, but that's probably my fault. But she was out of power. What am I supposed to learn?
Caleb Hammer
Well, I don't. I don't know about that, but like ongoing. I mean, this is thousands upon thousands of dollars.
Reyna
Yeah, I max it out once.
Reyna's Dad
Yes, it is. Yes, it is.
Caleb Hammer
And honestly, with her spending, it's like her spending alone last month was in the thousands of dollars and this is what's being funded. Instead of her actually taking care of
Reyna's Dad
things she needs, then she's paying for that. What are you talking about?
Caleb Hammer
Is she going to pay for that?
Reyna
I don't know how.
Caleb Hammer
She says she doesn't know how she should.
Reyna's Dad
What do you mean doesn't? You just said she spent thousands dollars.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, she says she doesn't know how she's gonna pay for it.
Reyna's Dad
What do you mean? What do you mean?
Reyna
I just. I don't know how to even make a payment on it.
Caleb Hammer
What kind of.
Reyna's Dad
What do you mean a payment? Did you get a loan?
Reyna
No, no, I think he's talking about the credit cards.
Reyna's Dad
You use the credit card for something else.
Reyna
Oh, yeah, the hotel. Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
Wouldn't she be able to use her own money for the hotel, though, if she wasn't spending thousands on. On a monthly basis? Doesn't it kind of offset that?
Reyna's Dad
Yeah, maybe like Starbucks.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, Starbucks. She's a Starbucks.
Reyna
I have to have my Starbucks.
Caleb Hammer
She has to have herself.
Reyna
I don't overeat so much. Make it at home.
Caleb Hammer
I agree. My big fear, Father, is that she is literally never going to learn any life skills because she's being endlessly bailed out and enabled. And if she ever breaks up with this guy, which I hope they don't, she's just going to like, what is she going to do? Move in with you? Like, she's going to have nothing. She has no life skills.
Reyna's Dad
She'd be better off moving in.
Reyna
No,
Caleb Hammer
even. Way better off even just leaving her
Reyna's Dad
guy and moving in with you if something ever happened.
Caleb Hammer
I don't know.
Reyna's Dad
She's, you know, what she. What's she doing?
Caleb Hammer
Well, nothing.
Reyna
No.
Caleb Hammer
Her streaming right now is 15 viewers. She gets 15 viewers concurrent.
Reyna
I'm literally doing better. I'm getting more consistent. And he knows she's not listen.
Reyna's Dad
She doesn't listen on streaming.
Caleb Hammer
She doesn't.
Reyna's Dad
She doesn't stream consistently. She doesn't do the promoter stream and
Caleb Hammer
her tick tocks don't give views either. And she's posting a ton. Like, I'm. I'm just, I'm really scared. Are you wealthy, sir? No. That's my big fear. That's my big fear is just how much money is going to her. Like, you know, your princess, your special little princess when she's not doing shit.
Reyna
Yeah. And he's over here yelling at me and being mean.
Reyna's Dad
Who is?
Reyna
Caleb?
Caleb Hammer
Well, yeah.
Reyna's Dad
What do you mean you're yelling at her.
Caleb Hammer
Well, I'm yelling at her. She's kind of a bitch.
Reyna's Dad
And what do you do?
Caleb Hammer
I yell at people.
Reyna's Dad
For what? I mean, what do you do, though?
Caleb Hammer
A living.
Reyna's Dad
A living?
Caleb Hammer
Yeah.
Reyna's Dad
What does that mean, a living?
Reyna
Like, what do you mean?
Caleb Hammer
I yell at people for a living on camera.
Reyna's Dad
You yell at people for a living on camera?
Reyna
Yeah, but he doesn't want me to
Caleb Hammer
stream well, because you get 15 views a stream. It's time to move on and get a job.
Reyna
I'm gonna get more, though. I'm gonna grow.
Reyna's Dad
You can get more viewers.
Reyna
See.
Caleb Hammer
Well, unfortunately, if I'm being honest, I like it's. Hard telling the father this, but there's really only one way for it just sucks in the niche that she is in. I mean, it's. It's cleavage and booty.
Reyna's Dad
No, listen, you're a liar and a. All right. And not necessarily enough either.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, But I'm in the world of content creation. I know the popular streamers. In fact, they're all here in Austin, Texas, where we are. They. All the women, they're not creators. They don't have. They're not doing that. But they're showing a lot of cleavage in. But on stream. And those are the only ones who are successful. I don't want her to do that. I'm actually telling her I do not want her to do that. But the thing is, because she doesn't do that, she's probably not going to
Brandon
be successful, and that sucks.
Reyna's Dad
Yeah, I don't want her to do that either.
Brandon
And so she's probably not going to be successful.
Reyna's Dad
Well, if you got a better idea, let me know.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, she needs to go get a job.
Reyna's Dad
Well, she doesn't like school. Where do you want her to get a job at? She won't listen to me.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, if she wants to. If she's not listening to you, never listens to you. Never give her money again.
Reyna
Wait, maybe we wait a little bit on the never give her money again thing just so I can at least have a chance for the streaming bullshit.
Reyna's Dad
You listen, you tell me, oh, can I. Can I borrow 300? I'll pay you back. I never see that money ever.
Reyna
I haven't. I've been paying the bills when I can and it's hard to pay it back.
Caleb Hammer
And who.
Reyna's Dad
Why does she need two phones?
Brandon
Why.
Reyna's Dad
Why the does she need two phones and I'm paying for one. $135 a month.
Caleb Hammer
One great question.
Reyna
One's my content work phone, and then my other is my personal phone.
Reyna's Dad
Oh, that's bullshit.
Caleb Hammer
And let me just tell you, father of her. I have a massive content creation business. I have one phone.
Reyna's Dad
See, Exactly. I got one phone.
Reyna
You don't livestream, though. Yes, we do, but you have like a whole setup. You don't, like, do a mobile livestream where you have to, like, have a phone, like in your hand, like listen to your music, use your maps, and then also a phone that you can stream on.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, listen, I know, I know you had to bribe her to finish high school by buying her a car. Maybe we can come together and bribe her to start a career.
Reyna's Dad
Well, she needs to pick a Career.
Caleb Hammer
I agree. She wants a career. She wants to work in automotive. Like she was an assistant manager at something automotive and she was making $50,000 a year. And I want her to dig in there and move up, but she says I don't like working 60 hours a week.
Reyna's Dad
Oh, my God. Whatever. Yeah, well, you have to sometimes.
Reyna
But I don't have to.
Caleb Hammer
Yes, you do.
Reyna's Dad
You do. You can't. You can't depend on me forever.
Brandon
I'm not.
Reyna
I'm just going to. It's. It should. It should probably take me maybe another year to get where I want to be, social media wise. And then I will have money and I'll take care of the family.
Reyna's Dad
What family?
Reyna
You.
Reyna's Dad
What family? Because the last thing you need is a kid.
Caleb Hammer
She said you.
Reyna
Oh, no, no, no. You.
Reyna's Dad
You're not gonna take care of me. I take care of myself.
Reyna
But if I was a millionaire from crypto and day trading.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, okay. Yeah. Like her brother. She thinks she's gonna day trade her way into a million bucks.
Reyna's Dad
I know, I know. But he. I don't have to worry about.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, I agree. All right, sir, I appreciate your time.
Reyna's Dad
Well, thank you very much. And I hope you have a great day.
Caleb Hammer
Maybe talk some sense. I'll try. I love that man. He is a hero. I love him. I need to see a picture of him right now. They're not going to see. I need to see what this guy looks like. He is a hero. And what does he. How does he know about streaming?
Reyna
He streams.
Caleb Hammer
What? He's a streamer, so.
Reyna
Yeah. Yeah. Successfully, According to your standards. No.
Caleb Hammer
Well, what's his average viewer count?
Reyna
Like four, maybe five.
Caleb Hammer
Well, he's doing it for fun, though, right?
Reyna
Yeah. Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
I love this man. I'm sorry. Can we shout him out? Can we put him in the description? Yeah, he's great. Go follow him at Rut Row. Ruh R U T T R O W her. She doesn't get a call out. But this guy gets all the call out. R U T T R O W on Twitch. I love this man. He's a hero. He's a king. What does he do for a living? Well, you cipher.
Reyna
He's a safety supervisor.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, that's explains all the beeps. That dude's out there grinding and beating pavement and you're being a bitch and beating meat for your rent. I your boyfriend.
Reyna
I'm not.
Caleb Hammer
Come on. He subsidizes everything. Come on.
Reyna
It's more my dad. I make about the same as my boyfriend. We make about the same.
Caleb Hammer
What you said he does. Well, you make a few hundred bucks a month.
Reyna
He does when he has, you know, people coming into the studio.
Caleb Hammer
So I don't even know what racked this up. You said a hotel, but a hotel doesn't cost $5,000.
Reyna
No, it was a hotel. An Airbnb. Well, that was after the. After what's on here right now that you see.
Caleb Hammer
So what got up to that?
Reyna
Like, just random stuff like food, clothes, a couple items for my streaming equipment.
Caleb Hammer
Cause they show me a picture of your boyfriend again. They will not see. I will see.
Brandon
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Reyna
Just here. Here's his Instagram.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, yeah, you're dating. Okay, she's dating this stereotypical, like, dude with a ball cap. I get it. Handsome looking dude. He pays your bills. He's a wannabe singer, isn't he?
Reyna
He's really good. Oh, he's really good.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah. Him and his 15, 000 followers.
Reyna
Yeah,
Brandon
I don't even mean to on the followers.
Caleb Hammer
It's like you just can't tell me that they're like. You're trying to advocate that he's successful. No, unfortunately, no. I hope he is at some point, but he's not.
Reyna
Oh, he's gonna make it.
Caleb Hammer
I hope so. I'm rooting for him.
Reyna
I have more confidence.
Caleb Hammer
I think you're just attractive. Everyone's more confident than in everyone's skills than yours. Listen, the thing is, you like him because he's hot, because he pays the bills.
Reyna
No.
Caleb Hammer
So you suck his dick and then you stay good. And then your dad funds the rest. Had hundreds of dollars in interest. What the. Brought it to 3,800 before you had to put a hotel and on here.
Reyna
Just like lifestyle things like drinks, clothes.
Caleb Hammer
Pathetic.
Reyna
Just, you know, the average girly thing. Slashes.
Caleb Hammer
So is this a repoed car?
Reyna
Oh, yeah, but that was great. That's 100% a good thing that. That got repoed.
Caleb Hammer
What you still owe on it, it's on your Credit.
Reyna
Not that much.
Caleb Hammer
7294.
Reyna
Yeah, not as much.
Caleb Hammer
49. Sorry.
Reyna
Yeah. You know how much I owed when it got repoed? Yeah, exactly. It was almost 30,000.
Caleb Hammer
Well, why'd you get. Why'd you have a car get repoed? And when?
Reyna
Because I couldn't afford it.
Brandon
When. Why'd you get a car you couldn't afford for?
Reyna
June of last year? I had it for about a year.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, my goodness. Your dad's giving you his car now?
Reyna
Yeah.
Brandon
Oh, why does he do this? Why does he do this?
Caleb Hammer
Oh, how many kids does he have? How many siblings you got?
Reyna
Well, on my dad's side, I have one sibling.
Caleb Hammer
The guy that I talked to.
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
So one's successful, and then he thinks he just needs to take care of you. Oh, this poor guy. This poor guy.
Reyna
I'm successful, too.
Caleb Hammer
Poor guy. And it just takes day trading. Works until it doesn't. I'm so. I'm so nervous for your dad and his Kids. How old's your brother?
Reyna
27.
Caleb Hammer
And how long has he been day trading?
Reyna
A couple years. A good amount of years.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah. It's gonna be interesting watching him trade a down market. We'll see. Or sideways. Even worse.
Reyna
But yeah. No, the car was. That was a 25 APR and it was 763amonth.
Caleb Hammer
Why'd you get it?
Reyna
I sold the Mustang and I was
Caleb Hammer
like, why'd you get it?
Reyna
For traveling so I could drive further. I wasn't. The Mustang was a fast.
Caleb Hammer
Why a card you couldn't afford though?
Reyna
It was a really nice car. What was it fit me. Yes, it was a 2018 Honda Accord. And it was cute.
Caleb Hammer
Is that a really nice car? I'm not sure.
Reyna
To me, it's a really nice car.
Caleb Hammer
Honda's good.
Reyna
It's cute. It fit me.
Caleb Hammer
How long did you have it before it got repoed? Dude, this year. Stupid. And when did it get repo?
Reyna
June of last year. You're pathetic.
Caleb Hammer
I mean, I take care of you, your boyfriend takes care of you, and yet you still get something you can't afford and he gets a repo.
Reyna
Well, that was before, like I had money.
Caleb Hammer
What's your dad think about this?
Reyna
About what?
Caleb Hammer
Your car getting repoed, asshole.
Reyna
We knew it was going to happen because I stopped paying it for like three months.
Caleb Hammer
Your dad was okay with it?
Reyna
I mean, yeah, he was like, just file bankruptcy after they take it.
Caleb Hammer
Have you?
Reyna
I worked. I met with a lawyer.
Caleb Hammer
You already have.
Brandon
Obviously it's your spending and your lack
Caleb Hammer
of income that is leading to this.
Brandon
Not stop needing to go through bankruptcy.
Reyna
Dude, I didn't start the bankruptcy. I was going to when I owe before they auctioned off the car after repoing it.
Caleb Hammer
But now that I'm sure Dad went through bankruptcy before. That's why you think it's. Listen, bankruptcy is not inherently the worst thing in the world. Okay, if you. For a bit. And it's not cheap and it is a bit stressful.
Brandon
But the thing is, it doesn't actually fix your behavior. And obviously what has gotten you into
Caleb Hammer
this is you don't pay your bills, you prioritize fun. You prioritize wanting to be famous. You'll never be famous. Golf. This is the most views you'll ever get in your entire life, including that viral thing you got before. And guess what? Yes. What? How? Dude, I saw this shorter 750,000, like
Reyna
500 million views across all platforms.
Caleb Hammer
Well, we'll see then. Probably not then, but even still, nothing resulted from that successfully for you and Nothing will result from this because no one knows who you are. Hopefully your dad gets some views because I love your dad. Yes, you do.
Brandon
You have nothing to do.
Reyna
I need it from you. I need financial help from you. Not the exposure.
Brandon
Financial help is you need to get a job and not bankruptcy. Because bankruptcy doesn't fix your behavior.
Caleb Hammer
More on. You'll be going through bankruptcy again in four years.
Reyna
It's more so about fixing, like my credit history. That's why I wanted to do the bankruptcy. Because my history.
Brandon
Maybe, but you'll end up right back where you were without fixing your behavior
Caleb Hammer
is what I'm trying to tell you.
Brandon
It's happened on the show multiple times.
Caleb Hammer
Multiple times with bankruptcy. Oh, my goodness. Yes. Yes. Oh, yes. So what is this? This is a collections of.
Reyna
Oh, I know what that is.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, $4,686.
Reyna
Yes.
Caleb Hammer
Okay. This, like, just hit it.
Reyna
Just hit.
Caleb Hammer
I don't know. Okay.
Reyna
No, that was when I was like 19, I think 20, maybe.
Caleb Hammer
I don't know about this. What was this?
Reyna
That was. I was studying to become a personal trainer.
Caleb Hammer
Are you even that?
Reyna
No, I also took a real estate class.
Caleb Hammer
You have abs.
Brandon
Do you have anything?
Reyna
No, I used to. I don't go to the gym anymore.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, but.
Reyna
Yeah, no, I've tried to figure out other things. Cause I was like, oh, real estate. Oh, personal. Finish training. But then I just did.
Caleb Hammer
So you took a loan and then
Reyna
you dropped out of the fitness training.
Caleb Hammer
You're too ecstatic.
Reyna
What the. I never finished the class for the fitness training for the real estate. I didn't take a loan, but I did finish the.
Caleb Hammer
There was a real estate one.
Reyna
Yeah, I took the class.
Caleb Hammer
Did you try to do every white girl thing? And yet you complete nothing ever. Pathetic. That's legitimately pathetic.
Reyna
That's the beauty of it, though. It's like I get to experience.
Caleb Hammer
What are you talking about, beauty?
Reyna
I get to experience a lot of different things and figure out what I really want to do.
Caleb Hammer
And I have to get paid for by daddy. And dude, this is the automotive is
Reyna
where I'm landing, you know?
Caleb Hammer
Yes, except not really, because you're not doing anything.
Reyna
I'm wrapping cars.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, but it's off and on. And who even knows? Who even knows you're getting your contracted out, man? Listen, you can use a fizz card. It's a debit card that builds credit. If you care about your credit, at least it doesn't allow you to spend more than what's in your checking account, so that helps.
Reyna
Oh, okay.
Caleb Hammer
And of Course use the dollar wise budgeting app and the master money program will put you. And that's our educational program. What a joke. Okay, so what is you fan one of my you. You uniform?
Reyna
No idea. Not a clue. But how much is it?
Caleb Hammer
$759 and 8 cents.
Reyna
That could be the after pay. It could be.
Caleb Hammer
So this is collections?
Reyna
Yeah, that's collection.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, my. What is wrong with you, dude? You're broken. You've just been going into collections for years.
Reyna
A lot of this is from when I was like 19. Like I was coaching everything.
Brandon
Not the repo.
Reyna
Not all this. No.
Caleb Hammer
But you're told it's either alter or Victoria's secret. You're gonna need a lot more of that up here.
Reyna
Oh, the. Yeah, yeah, I know it's bad.
Caleb Hammer
It's not that bad. I'm aiming on you.
Reyna
Oh, no, it's okay.
Caleb Hammer
I mean, it's fine.
Reyna
I'm.
Caleb Hammer
If you want to protect yourself.
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
Did you get a 4 Botox? I could objectively not.
Reyna
It's not that expensive.
Caleb Hammer
But you can't afford anything. You're borrowing from dad for everything.
Reyna
Well, not for everything. I pay majority.
Caleb Hammer
Give me your biggest scrunch.
Reyna
No. Hell no. I'll give you a nose scrunch.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, that was big. You already did it.
Reyna
Yeah. That's bad.
Caleb Hammer
Just lucky. My head doesn't really do that. I go here.
Reyna
Do you have Botox?
Caleb Hammer
No, my head just doesn't do that.
Reyna
How did you not do that?
Caleb Hammer
No, I scrunch here. I have a line here. And I have aggressive smile lines and eyelines. But so do you. So you just get them everywhere?
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
You're gonna be old, dude.
Reyna
Don't tell me you're white.
Caleb Hammer
As you are gonna age like cancer.
Reyna
No, I'm literally. I am going to get Botox. Okay. In the forehead.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, it's gonna.
Reyna
But no filler. No filler.
Caleb Hammer
Retinol. Botox ain't gonna do shit for you. You're gonna ache.
Reyna
I don't think so. I'm gonna go to an esthetician, like, immediately.
Caleb Hammer
You wear sunscreen every day, right?
Reyna
No.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, you're.
Reyna
I go to the tanning bed.
Caleb Hammer
You're. Oh, shit. She's gonna. She's gonna look like. You're gonna look like the president in a decade from now.
Reyna
No, I don't tan that much.
Caleb Hammer
I don't know. But your skin.
Reyna
Oh, okay. All right. Dermatologist visit immediately.
Caleb Hammer
It's got a lot more than that. And you've already up some of your big years. Resurgent what is this? 644. Oh my goodness. $644.19.
Reyna
Oh wait, is that from the.
Brandon
I don't know what it's from.
Reyna
That might be the. I don't know what it's from either. It's either car insurance or credit card.
Caleb Hammer
I don't know. But you can make a Lower payment of 5:47 to just pay it off.
Reyna
I never really have. Oh, I do have.
Caleb Hammer
I'll just put that down. 547. Oh, we don't even know what this is for. Let's see. Oh, oh, this is from Self. The Self the lending.
Reyna
Yeah, it could be
Caleb Hammer
pathetic. Your entire life is pathetic, dude. Okay, 644. I'm assuming this is another collections.
Reyna
What is it?
Caleb Hammer
Let's see. What was this? I don't. It's just credit one.
Reyna
Oh, credit card.
Caleb Hammer
I. Yeah, yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, dude, credit once fucked. That's when you know you're the worst finances in your credit ones and collections.
Reyna
Oh, there's a.
Caleb Hammer
You're aggressively the worst, huh?
Reyna
There's a premier one in there too.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, this is obviously collections. This is a picture from mail.
Reyna
Oh, that one I think is the car insurance.
Caleb Hammer
Car insurance you weren't paying. Yeah, dude, you are the worst of the worst.
Reyna
The car insurance. That one was from the Mustang though. And that was.
Caleb Hammer
You're the worst of the worst ever. You're the worst of the worst ever.
Reyna
I'm not the worst. There's. I'm doing so much better than a lot of other people.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, you're not homeless. You're literally taking a dude's pee pee for a roof over your head.
Reyna
I have. I don't have that much debt though either.
Caleb Hammer
No, you have a lot of debt.
Reyna
It's 20,000.
Caleb Hammer
You're right. If people have student loans and mortgages, it's higher. But you have a lot of debt and it's all. You're horrible. Objectively horrible. Car insurance is crazy. We'll keep going. Oh, this is for a first premiere.
Reyna
Yes. Yeah. Nobody else would approve me, so I applied for that one and then I
Caleb Hammer
got it and I was in collections.
Reyna
Yes. It was my grocery card.
Caleb Hammer
This is pathetic. There's no other word to use for you than pathetic. It really is.
Reyna
It's not that bad.
Caleb Hammer
$593. It's really bad. Not paying your car insurance is really bad. Taking money from your dad who works his ass off out on the field on a daily basis. Not field, but like sites and whatnot. Dude's grinding goose. Grinding his hands are rusty. And you're taking money from that guy. Racking up his credit cards. You're a joke. You are sad. You are pathetic. You are a waste of human civilization. And the fact that we gave you a tax refund when you haven't paid the last four years of taxes is also a joke. I'm writing my millions of dollars of taxes for you. You.
Reyna
I paid your extra into taxes, though, when I. From that job when I was doing these.
Caleb Hammer
You're horrendous. You're horrible. You're a bad person and you're mean. Yeah, to bad people.
Reyna
I'm not a bad person. I'm just.
Caleb Hammer
You're a bad person. You're abusing your relationship with your boyfriend and father. Yes, you are. Yes, you are.
Reyna
No.
Caleb Hammer
Yes, you are.
Reyna
That was my boyfriend.
Brandon
Yeah, you take his dick and you
Caleb Hammer
use them for all the bills. Let's be honest.
Reyna
I pay my part.
Brandon
No, you. It's impossible. You don't bring in money that is,
Caleb Hammer
like, literally not mathematically possible.
Brandon
Or the only way you do is by borrowing money from dad, who's out there working. And it sounds like he doesn't have
Caleb Hammer
anyone to go home to, does he?
Reyna
He's got a wife.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, yeah.
Reyna
Together. That's a. That's a long story. I don't know.
Caleb Hammer
Short version. Why?
Reyna
I don't know. She has her own company, and so
Caleb Hammer
she's go home and grind on Twitch.
Reyna
Yeah.
Brandon
You want to deal with his bitch daughter? Her failed daughter.
Reyna
I'm his favorite human in the world, and we play Fortnite together on his stream and we do things like that. So, yes, he talks to me every single day. And he loves me.
Brandon
I'm not saying he's not a loving father.
Reyna
He's the best.
Caleb Hammer
He's being horrible to your actual improvement of a human being, though. Pathetic. Pathetic.
Brandon
Pathetic.
Caleb Hammer
What is this? Balance of 34 bucks? You couldn't even pay this.
Reyna
What is it? Oh, you don't know? I don't know why I'm asking you.
Caleb Hammer
Professional clinical laboratories, I'm sure you need a lot. Oh.
Reyna
Oh, yeah.
Caleb Hammer
Did they learn what was wrong with you ever?
Reyna
No. No, I. Before we figured out, I went. I lost the.
Brandon
Figured out what?
Caleb Hammer
Your brain. That's what I'm trying to say.
Reyna
Oh, no.
Caleb Hammer
What are you saying? Your white cell blood count.
Reyna
No.
Caleb Hammer
You got aids?
Reyna
No, I. They were trying to figure out. They thought that I had this blood cancer and then it was a whole thing and I do.
Brandon
Yeah, because that would save your dad
Caleb Hammer
a lot of money.
Reyna
No, I don't have it. I had to get Gene testing for it. But that's good.
Caleb Hammer
I'm glad you don't. Okay, so for this test, which is in collections. Right? Right. Is it?
Reyna
Yes. Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
Dude.
Reyna
I just. I. I don't understand how medical bills work when you know you have insurance and then all of a sudden you
Caleb Hammer
get paid Co pays and. Or if the insurance doesn't cover. What do you mean?
Reyna
Why don't you pay it when you get there?
Caleb Hammer
Learned anything? You have access to every search search engine to learn anything you want. I don't understand how the works. Learn. $163.38. All that in collection. So stupid. Okay, this one's even more. $73.70. Why did you not pay this? I don't even know what it's from.
Reyna
I don't. What? Oh my goodness.
Caleb Hammer
What is wrong with you? Why couldn't you even pay this? Then Daddy bails you out.
Reyna
Oh, he's never paid like any of my collections or anything like that.
Brandon
Yes, but he pays for your life.
Caleb Hammer
Well, you're not paying for collections. You're pathetic.
Brandon
Okay, cash app.
Caleb Hammer
Borrow. You owe 303.
Reyna
Yeah.
Caleb Hammer
Is that in collections or.
Reyna
No, no.
Caleb Hammer
Pull it up. Finally, something that's not.
Reyna
I don't even know if that can go to collections.
Caleb Hammer
303.03. Give it to me.
Reyna
I gotta get to the account.
Caleb Hammer
Tit. How do I get to the debt? I don't. I don't use this shit. Your dad texted. Sorry. Someone hit a building and it's been hectic. Oh, why? Is it because he crashed out of me? Is that why he's up saying that? No, no. You got kicked out. What do you mean you got kicked out? You're unable to borrow. You got kicked out?
Reyna
Well, yeah. You have to pay it back before you can borrow again. That's how it works.
Caleb Hammer
No, your account's suspended.
Reyna
Oh, I have another account. So. Not that I borrow. I don't borrow on that account. That's just used for. Whenever people want to send me money for streaming. They just cash at me sometimes. Or they'll send me a cash app and they'll be like for Starbucks in the morning.
Caleb Hammer
Parking tickets. Tickets. Eleven thirty two dollars.
Reyna
Yeah, parking tickets.
Brandon
What is wrong with you?
Reyna
Parking's expensive.
Caleb Hammer
Why can't you do anything, man? Oh, there.
Reyna
Okay, so it's really expensive.
Brandon
Yes, kind of a little.
Caleb Hammer
But not paying them is even more. Here's one. 39. Here's one. 39 dollars. Is wrong with you? 40 dollars for this one. What is wrong with you? 40 dollars for THIS? Why? Why can't you do anything?
Brandon
40 dollars
Caleb Hammer
75. Cuz your fee. 1355 and 55. 147 55. 25 times 2. What is wrong with you? You're pathetic, dude. You're seriously pathetic.
Reyna
No, it's parking.
Brandon
Why are they paying for parking?
Caleb Hammer
Just pay $17. Paying for parking? Because it's literally space that could be used for multiple things. Why should your parking, your vehicle be subsidized by the rest of us? You.
Reyna
It's a private company.
Caleb Hammer
Huh?
Reyna
It's like a private company. It's not like the cities paying.
Caleb Hammer
Okay, then they own the space that they get to charge what they want to.
Reyna
Okay, well then private company. Where in the city that I live in?
Caleb Hammer
Okay, good. Then yes, pay that. They own the property. They get to charge that so expensive. Then don't park there.
Brandon
Where else?
Reyna
Somewhere else to park.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, there's always somewhere else to park.
Brandon
Shut up.
Caleb Hammer
Nowhere free that you have to park extra far for. Somewhere free but even still pay on the street. Dude. You. We should not be subsidizing you your vehicle storage. To be clear, that's your choice to have vehicle number two. It's a private company. Yes, they are going to charge money, dumbass.
Reyna
It's expensive. It's so expensive.
Caleb Hammer
You're pathetic. This checking account. Instacart. You're paying for instacart? No. Withdraw. Were you running Instacart? Instacart. Withdraw.
Reyna
Instacart.
Caleb Hammer
No. You paid for Instacart? No, I was paying for instacart.
Reyna
I was doordashing.
Caleb Hammer
You're paying for instacart. Go get your groceries. You do nothing all day. You're fucking.
Reyna
I work all day.
Caleb Hammer
Pull up your Apple trading view. She's doing it. Oh, she's doing it. You're. You're trying. Are you paper trading right now or real money trade?
Reyna
I was paper trading. I have $20.
Brandon
No, please. You can't.
Caleb Hammer
You ain't your brother. You're. You're literally a moron. You don't know what you're doing. Stop. No.
Reyna
What did you want me to pull up Walmart?
Brandon
Just open your damn phone.
Caleb Hammer
Piece of.
Brandon
Open it.
Reyna
It was open.
Brandon
Open it again.
Caleb Hammer
Started with $14 in a checking account.
Brandon
Got bullshit McDonald's twitch. You're paying Twitch?
Reyna
Yeah, That's a tax write off you
Brandon
tax rent if you don't make money to pay taxes.
Reyna
So I shouldn't have to pay my taxes? Oh my goodness.
Caleb Hammer
You'll have To. You have to file. You have to file.
Reyna
But if I don't. If I'm not making that.
Brandon
You have to file.
Caleb Hammer
Kuo, formerly open phone.
Reyna
Oh, that was before I got the second phone. And I was like, I'm gonna have a business number.
Caleb Hammer
And she has three Twitch subscriptions currently. Video AI. Is that InVideo AI? Video AI.
Reyna
I don't know what that is.
Caleb Hammer
Woofs. Puppy and dog training.
Reyna
Yes, I have a Doberman.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, no, you can't afford that. Starbucks. Vape zone. Vape zone. Yeah. Look at you. Failure. Disgusting.
Reyna
I vape.
Caleb Hammer
Pathetic. Yeah, you're disgusting. Yeah, of course you're disgusting. You're disgusting. You're a failure. You're gonna kill yourself. Twitch, twitch, twitch. You thought you had canceled. Well, you will now. Reverse phone dot com. Looking people up.
Reyna
Yes.
Caleb Hammer
Why are you looking people up?
Reyna
Because I was having a lot of people call me and it turned out to be one of my brothers. I was like, oh, I didn't have his number.
Caleb Hammer
You. You are the most literally person I've ever met. You seriously are uber. Twitch. You're uber. And fuck you, Pet smart. Pet smart. Pet smart. McDonald's. Vape zone. Vape zone. Vape zone.
Reyna
Okay, not all the vape zone is me.
Brandon
Nord ashy tacos. Uber, Uber eats. You getting some bullshit. Fuck you.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, pathetic. This is so stupid. Luma stream.
Brandon
Twitch, twitch, twitch, twitch.
Caleb Hammer
You're super chatting like crazy. Tap stitch print full. You tap search uber, uber, ulta password.
Brandon
Michaels.
Caleb Hammer
McDonald's, Papa John's. Sally Beauty ain't covering those lines.
Brandon
Prime video channel. Shopify, McDonald's, McDonald's, Petsmart. Crypto.com, what are you doing?
Caleb Hammer
Crypto dot com.
Brandon
You have $20,000 of debt. Crypto dot com.
Caleb Hammer
What are you doing?
Reyna
Crypto is.
Brandon
What are you doing? Huh?
Reyna
The crypto wasn't me. Any of the crypto charges. Is not.
Caleb Hammer
Who is it?
Reyna
It's my boyfriend.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, my God. What is wrong with you guys? This. This household needs to be burned down. We need to kick you out of this country, Publix. Yeah, well, it's $12. I don't have groceries. Sending out $400 more. Crypto.com. 50 bucks. What was he doing? We'll talk about him more in the post. Show. Crypto dot com. Uber, Starbucks, Metro restyling. Starbucks, prime video. Starbucks.
Reyna
The Metro restyling is my work stuff.
Caleb Hammer
McDonald work stuff. You don't fucking work a day in your life. Zillion out a shit ton of money. Chick fil. A phantom, Phantom, Phantom, Phantom. 50 bucks.
Brandon
Oh, 50 50.
Caleb Hammer
50. 50. We'll talk about this in the post show. Uber Starbucks. She wants to keep the private stuff about her relationship in the post show. So the post show is going to be crazy. $30,000 on one set of extensions.
Brandon
Oh, it's $3,000 on a set of extensions.
Reyna
This is the second time I got extensions.
Caleb Hammer
You need to just.
Reyna
The first time it was a thousand.
Caleb Hammer
Just stop off. You're nothing. $2 in our fidelity.
Reyna
Yes, my fidelity.
Caleb Hammer
Golf. Cough. Pathetic. Golf. You. You. It's not you, you, you. What's your portion of rent? You.
Reyna
Oh, 1900 divided by two.
Caleb Hammer
Can't even say what your income is. I'm going to say 2000. You're not sending enough money because your contractor. You need to set aside 25 for your taxes. At a minimum, I'm going to say a thousand. 750. Good. The. The luck. What is there even a budget here? What's your portion of rent?
Reyna
Half of 1900.
Caleb Hammer
Your portion's 1900?
Reyna
No. Half of 19. I don't know what that is.
Caleb Hammer
950. What about your portion of utilities?
Reyna
Like 100.
Caleb Hammer
Internet as well.
Reyna
120.
Caleb Hammer
You pay 120?
Reyna
Well, every month is kind of different. Sometimes I do.
Caleb Hammer
Well, I'll put an extra 60. I'll put 60 then. Phone bill, Daddy.
Reyna
Probably 60. I pay for my iPhone.
Caleb Hammer
Use helium. Use helium. It's 15 bucks a month. T. Mobile towers. I'm sure that's good in Central Tennessee. Gas. Vroom, vroom. Drive. Drive. How much a month?
Reyna
I'd say 100.
Caleb Hammer
Car insurance?
Reyna
I don't have a car.
Caleb Hammer
Yeah, Daddy's giving that to you. Your car insurance. I'll put 150 because you're about to get a TP fund. Anything else you need to survive?
Reyna
He's gonna keep paying the insurance.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, my goodness, you spoiled tv. Fun. Anything else you need to survive? Makeup, tampons, all that good stuff. 100 bucks. Necessary food. Shut the 300 bucks. What?
Reyna
Off my dog?
Caleb Hammer
Yes. That's a separate category. Okay. Medical, health care. What else are there? CO pays on a monthly basis when you get your birth control and.
Reyna
Oh, no, I get it through Planned Parenthood, so subscriptions?
Caleb Hammer
I'll try 40. That's all your twitch. Pet insurance. 50. How much for your pet food?
Reyna
I'd say 150amonth.
Caleb Hammer
Anything else that needs to be in your budget? That is not
Reyna
self care, like keeping up with my looks.
Caleb Hammer
Self care. I gave you. I gave you a TP fund. Use it for what you need. Anything else is unacceptable and we don't make enough money. So I don't even know what to do. This is like. This is. Oh, you have negative two in your savings. Okay, listen, I'm sorry. Usually I at least give someone. I don't care. She's not gonna go anywhere. There's nothing to do here. There, she's done. Like. I don't care. I don't care. I've lost the care. I'm a little sick. Okay. I think. No, it's actually allergies, but either way, I'm a little cedar hit hard. I don't give. I don't give a. You're okay. Your daddy's gonna enable you forever. Your boyfriend is nothing. I don't give a. We'll talk about him more in the post show. I'm done. I don't care. You're not making enough money, obviously. What's the real answer? Go get a job and pay off your debt, dumbass. Negative two dollars and save off. What are we doing here? Let's get your Hammer Financial score. Spending in a budget so fucking stupid. 0 out of 10. You overspent. Debt collection, 0 out of 10. Emergency fund, nothing. 0 out of 10. Retirement. Nothing. 0 out of 10. Real estate. Nothing. 0 out of 10. Hammer financial score. Go yourself and get a job like an adult, you spoiled brat. Click the join button. Join us for Hammerly. Download the Dollar Wise budgeting app. Get your Hammer financial score@kalepammer.com.
Brandon
why the is he pulling all this
Caleb Hammer
money for crypto and bullshit?
Reyna
Because it makes him more money.
Caleb Hammer
What?
Reyna
It's literally the move. Like the banks are all owned by like billionaires. Like Epstein. Like they just all.
Brandon
Epstein doesn't own a bank.
Caleb Hammer
What the are you talking about?
Reyna
All the billionaires have the banks with the crypto.
Caleb Hammer
Oh, she's.
Brandon
She is. So who is this woman in my studio? Don't forget to download the new dollar wise budgeting app. This is officially now the best budgeting app on the market. And I'm giving you a special deal to download, but only through March 31st. Take a free three day trial to test it out and then you get the monthly plan at a 33 discount for the first three months or the annual plan at an insane 50 discount. And with the annual, you get my budget friendly cookbook and my brand new 30 day detailed budget meal plan signed
Caleb Hammer
by me and mailed directly to you.
Brandon
After March 31st, the cookbook is going away forever. So this is literally your last chance.
Caleb Hammer
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Brandon
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Episode: "Wannabe E-Girl Made $0.52 Last Month | Financial Audit"
Date: March 11, 2026
Host: Caleb Hammer
Guest: Reyna, 26, Central Tennessee
This episode features Reyna, a self-described "streamer" and car wrapper from Tennessee, who claims to be an up-and-coming internet personality. Host Caleb Hammer, with support from cohost Brandon, conducts a brutally honest and at times confrontational audit of Reyna's finances, career prospects, and life choices. The conversation quickly reveals gaps between Reyna's self-perception as a content creator and her actual income, followed by a deep dive into her debt, spending habits, and family dynamics.
"Caleb: From the views and everything I’m seeing, you likely don’t have a talent... not a talent that people are interested in." [17:02]
"Reyna: I’m talented, okay?"
"Caleb: TikTok, seven days pay... $0.56." "--Reyna:** I’m not posting videos over a minute long." [09:32]
"Caleb: Followers mean nothing. Subscribers mean nothing. Nothing." [17:47]
"Reyna: My dad would be so upset if I quit… it was his dream for me to be a streamer." [17:57]
"Caleb: She is literally never going to learn any life skills because she’s being endlessly bailed out and enabled." [54:13]
"Reyna’s Dad: The last thing you need is a kid." [59:29]
"Caleb: Your entire life is pathetic, dude. Okay, $644. I’m assuming this is another collections." [73:20]
"Reyna: I don't have that much debt though either."
"Caleb: No, you have a lot of debt." [74:05]
"Brandon: Financial help is you need to get a job and not bankruptcy. Because bankruptcy doesn’t fix your behavior." [68:34]
"Caleb: Objectively, you are a waste of human civilization." [75:13]
On Income & Streaming Reality
On Perceptions of Fame and Influence
On Enablement and Support
On Debt and Collections
On Entrepreneurial and Financial Delusions
On Self-Awareness and Excuses
Candid Parental Admissions
Host’s Concluding Judgments
The episode is characterized by Caleb’s signature blunt, no-nonsense, occasionally abrasive humor. There’s substantial sarcasm, explicit language, and banter—frequently at Reyna’s expense, but also aiming to provide tough-love financial advice. Reyna often responds with defensiveness, self-justification, and lack of awareness, while the hosts vacillate between amusement, frustration, and exasperation.
Reyna’s financial audit is a frank exploration of the dangers of confusing internet notoriety with genuine success, the risks of enabling adult children, and the pitfalls of living beyond one's means while refusing to accept reality. The hosts emphasize financial discipline, career focus, and the reality check needed for anyone chasing "influencer" dreams without results.
Recommendation: Reyna should abandon her influencer ambitions, get stable employment (preferably in automotive), pay down her debt, and develop financial independence—before her family’s support runs out.