Nate Bartram and Jonah Aragon have been advocating for privacy for a long time. Their sites, The New Oil and Privacy Guides, have a ton of fabulous resources for anyone interested in guarding their data and defending their digital rights. Ever wonder what it’s like being a privacy advocate in an increasingly privacy-hostile world? Today, I’ll take you behind the scenes of these sites and into the brains of two top-notch privacy warriors.

Interview Notes

Privacy Guides: https://www.privacyguides.org/
The New Oil: https://thenewoil.org/
Critical Thinking 101: https://ghost.thenewoil.org/critical-thinking-101/
This Week in Privacy podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-week-in-privacy/id1726826455
Privacy Advocate Toolbox: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/activism/
Smartphone privacy guides: https://www.privacyguides.org/videos/2026/02/04/smartphone-security-course-lesson-1-beginners-2/

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0:00:18: Intro
0:02:11: Why did you get into privacy?
0:07:44: What’s the most enduring privacy myth?
0:14:13: Do you find people dislike the answer “it depends”?
0:16:50: How would you describe your target audience?
0:22:00: How do you evaluate privacy products?
0:27:59: What products have you unrecommended and why?
0:34:27: What are major privacy red flags?
0:43:09: What product do you use that you do not recommend to others?
0:48:05: How will you handle age checks or repeal of Section 230?
0:55:09: Who do you look to for privacy advice?
1:04:22: What’s next for you guys?
1:08:30: Wrap-up
1:10:46: Patron podcast preview
1:11:24: Looking ahead

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