Rob Corddry - Episode 1120

Summary

Fitzdog Radio: Rob Corddry – Episode 1120 (December 17, 2025)
Host: Greg Fitzsimmons
Guest: Rob Corddry

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode is a classic, freewheeling Fitzdog Radio chat between host Greg Fitzsimmons and frequent guest Rob Corddry, celebrated for his roles in comedic films, TV, and as creator of "Children's Hospital." The conversation is rooted in their longtime friendship, their mutual backgrounds in comedy, storytelling, and the quirks of life as aging, married, bald men. They tackle everything from the inside baseball of stand-up and TV writing to ADHD, marriage dynamics, and the joys and awkwardness of neighbor relationships—all with Fitz’s signature blend of irreverence, honesty, and self-deprecation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Fitz Alone & Reflections on Family, Comedy & Parties (01:39 – 07:00)

• Fitzsimmons finds himself alone during the holidays—family off to South Africa, he’s caring for his mother-in-law’s boyfriend, and reflecting on missing his wife.
• Comic riff on his wife being “not funny” but wonderful, exploring how honesty about a spouse’s lack of humor is taboo, especially for men.
  • Quote: “Trying to be funny is very, very different than being funny people. You know, like Hitler...” (04:00)
• Discusses his aversion to industry holiday parties; finds joy in hearing they sucked after skipping them.
• Praises San Francisco Punchline as his true favorite club, defends it as “not woke” despite city reputation.
• Anecdote of eating sushi with Louis CK, exploiting Louis’ wealth and then getting called out for ordering too much.
  • Quote: “I looked at him and he looked at me, and I’m like, do you want some money for that? And he’s like, no, I got it. I go, well, why’d you take so long? He goes, cause you ordered a lot of fucking sushi.” (08:32)

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On Aging, Baldness, Marriage, and Self-Acceptance (13:02 – 18:00)

• Both men swap stories about hats, sun damage, and skin woes of baldness in LA.
• Rob jokes about getting work done, while Fitz admits to the actor’s insecurity that drives small physical tweaks.
• Corddry humorously discusses his wife’s Invisalign obsession, questioning if her improvements mean she’s “on the market” (16:08).
• Corddry reveals: “She thinks she’s a great storyteller...she does have good stories, but there’s a lot of fat in there...she’ll repeat some detail three or four times. So by the time you get to the end of the story, I have ADHD—I’ve forgotten the beginning.” (16:49)

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The Art (and Spouse-Related Pain) of Storytelling (17:10 – 23:00)

• Fitz and Corddry bemoan spouses as relentless “fact checkers” who derail embellished stories for accuracy.
• Quote: “And not only is she cockblocking the flow of the story. You look like a liar. Yes.” (20:39) – Fitzsimmons
• Rob: “Now the more we talk about it, the more I would not change that about her. It’s kind of charming.” (21:31)
• Warm analysis of their wives’ strengths as connectors and inclusive hosts.

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Twins, Old Friends, and Comedy Life (22:52 – 26:13)

• Corddry recounts the challenge of telling Sklar Brothers (identical twin comedians) apart and the existential dilemma of which one is truly which after a diaper mix-up as babies.
  • Quote: “So Randy might be Jason and Jason might be Randy.” (26:11)
• Both admire the Sklars’ grace at being mistaken, touring, working as twins.

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Nicotine, Stimulant Use, and ADHD (26:36 – 35:16)

• Corddry shares his ongoing nicotine addiction (“fairly benign drug”), oral fixations, and how both he and Fitz rely on stimulants (nicotine, coffee, ADHD meds).
• Corddry’s wild stories about “Cokies,” a Brooklyn bar run by retired cops, serving cocaine through a glory hole while old folks drank outside.
  • Quote: “You’d give them 20 and they’d give you a little bag of coke. Like a glory hole for coke?” (30:17)
• Allusions to being misdiagnosed or undiagnosed with ADHD for years; relishing how stimulants calm, not hype them:
  • “It was like putting glasses on. I know that’s sort of a cliche, but I’m newly diagnosed too.” (34:07 – Corddry)
• Fitz on childhood and the missed ADHD diagnosis: “I wrote a book called Dear Mrs. Fitzsimmons about all the letters that were sent home...he's either acting up and causing a scene, or he's asleep at his desk...that's ADHD." (35:43)

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Comedy Culture: Kindness, Ball-Busting & Political Correctness (39:18 – 45:22)

• Fitz shares how his Irish ball-busting in comedy green rooms often confuses West Coast comics: “I always go, thanks, faggot...I can always tell immediately, like, if a guy laughs, I can see him laughing on his way off stage, or I can see him furrowing his brow.” (40:03)
• Corddry and Fitz unpack the shifting taboos in comedy, safe spaces, and the (possibly temporary) return of “edgy” language.
• Discussion transitions to broader political climate; both express hope that culture is moving away from fringe outrage and “cause of the day” activism.

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Wikipedia Fact Checks, Awards, and Meaningful Achievements (45:32 – 50:06)

• Fitz tries to fact-check Corddry’s Wikipedia (incorrectly listed as Political Science major), which Corddry finds amusing and baffling.
• Discuss which life milestone meant more: Emmys or Eagle Scout—Corddry surprisingly chooses Eagle Scout, as award ceremonies stir anxiety.
  • “I’ve sworn off speeches. I hope I don’t win another thing in my life, really, until my kids get married.” (46:26)
• Fitz on his reputation as a great eulogist and the paradox of being asked to speak at funerals even for acquaintances, because humor is so desperately needed.

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The Craft of Stand-Up and Performance (49:05 – 54:07)

• Series of keen observations contrasting different comic personas: needy vs. relaxed; stool guys (Marin, Cosby), white comics’ “power moves” (foot on monitor), and black comics’ mic slaps.
  • “If they see you needy or, or sweaty, they just pull back. And [Kevin Nealon] is the opposite of that...just in the pocket.” (49:13–49:17)
• Discussion on storytelling impulse and how, for comics like Cosby (noting the open secret of his misconduct in Hollywood), the “backstage” green room is a protected, profane space.

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Storytellers, Shakespeare, and Acting Technique (55:19 – 71:12)

• Corddry shares experience on Ari Shaffir’s "This is Not Happening," telling a story where his wife accidentally called their elderly neighbor a c*nt in an email and tried to break in to delete it.
  • “And my wife sent an email to me—forwarded it to me and said, ‘This proves that it was that know it all cnt who turned us in for the fence’ and hit send right back to the woman.”* (56:29)
• Bond over the appeal (and pain) of neighbor relationships.
• In-depth, nerdy discussion on Shakespeare (“says things five or six times...playing to the rabble”), their love of New York’s Shakespeare in the Park, and the challenge of “cracking” the language as performers.
• Both reflect proudly on their English major backgrounds, strong influence of professor role models.

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Fastballs with Fitz (Quick-fire Questions) (72:02 – 81:21)

• Corddry’s brushes with the law: recounts essentially getting arrested on purpose to “have the experience” in college, delighting his theater friends with unlikely Irish Boston behavior.
• Best Asian friend: Edith Sue Chen, top NYC city planner.
• Literary hero: Robert Moses (discussed via infamous Caro biography).
• Who would play Rob Corddry in his biopic? Dave Koechner—jokes about roles and similarities, despite barely resembling each other physically.
• Meaningful tattoos and family traditions: shares he has a tattoo with his late sister’s ashes in the ink (poignantly, "my sister’s in me").
• Secretly wishes he’d played Hamlet; describes “aging out” of such classic dramatic roles.

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Final Reflections & Memorable Quotes

• Rob credits drama roles as easier, now that comedy has built his chops:
  • "You don’t realize till you’re in a drama how you’ve been swinging three bats in the batter's box for years and you're stepping up to the plate with one." (68:12)
• Corddry opens up about family losses, marriage difficulties, and the importance of spousal understanding with ADHD:
  • “Being married to an ADHD person is you really have to know their limitations and not judge them like they're a normal person.” (83:32 – Fitz)
  • “There's such pressure to hear every word she says. And like I said at the very beginning, she gives a lot of information, man.” (84:23 – Corddry)
• Corddry’s new AMC series "The Audacity" drops in March, created by Jonathan Glatzer (Succession, Better Call Saul). Rob speaks highly of Glatzer:
  • “Some of these guys have that sort of thing, like…Aaron Sorkin...they’re just good at story and dialogue.” (64:24)

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “Trying to be funny is very, very different than being funny people. You know, like Hitler. I bet Eva Braun said, ‘He’s got a great sense of humor. Oh, yeah. We laugh and we laugh. Und we laugh and we kill.”* – Fitz (04:00)
• “She thinks she’s a great storyteller...she does have good stories, but there’s a lot of fat in there...so by the time you get to the end of the story, I have ADHD—I’ve forgotten the beginning.” – Corddry (16:49)
• “And not only is she cockblocking the flow of the story. You look like a liar. Yes.” – Fitz (20:39)
• “So Randy might be Jason and Jason might be Randy.” – Corddry on the Sklars (26:11)
• “You’d give them 20 and they’d give you a little bag of coke. Like a glory hole for coke?” – Fitz (30:17)
• “It was like putting glasses on… I’m newly diagnosed too.” – Corddry on ADHD meds (34:07)
• “You always have to create a perimeter because there’s always four of them, them and their wives.” – Fitz on the Sklar twins (22:27)
• “If they see you needy or, or sweaty, they just pull back. And [Kevin Nealon] is the opposite of that...just in the pocket.” – Fitz (49:13)
• “You don’t realize till you’re in a drama how you’ve been swinging three bats in the batter’s box for years…” – Corddry (68:12)
• “My sister’s in me.” – Corddry on his tattoo with his sister’s ashes (78:59)
• “Being married to an ADHD person is you really have to know their limitations and not judge them like they're a normal person.” – Fitz (83:32)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Fitz’s Solo Holiday Reflections – 01:39–07:00
• San Francisco Punchline, Louis CK Anecdote – 07:00–11:00
• Aging, Baldness, Marriage Observations – 13:02–18:00
• Storytelling & Spousal Fact-Checking – 17:10–23:00
• Sklars, Twins, & Existentialism – 22:52–26:13
• ADHD, Nicotine, Comedy Stimulants – 26:36–35:16
• Comedy and Language Taboo Evolution – 39:18–45:22
• Wikipedia Errors, Achievements – 45:32–50:06
• Stand-Up Styles & Storytelling – 49:05–54:07
• Family Stories, Neighbors, Mistaken Emails – 55:19–59:22
• Shakespeare, Theatrical Training – 69:00–71:12
• Fastballs with Fitz (Personal Q&A) – 72:02–81:21
• Reflections on Marriage/ADHD/Parenthood/Tattoos – 81:46–83:41
• Plug for Upcoming Series ‘The Audacity’ – 84:28–84:41

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Tone & Style

• Playful, honest, affectionate—a generous mix of ball-busting and deep-dive reflection that’s hallmark to Fitzdog Radio.
• Rob Corddry is self-effacing, witty, and candid, oscillating easily between making jokes about nicotine and touching on grief and marriage.
• Fitzsimmons brings out the best in Corddry by blending inside-comedy-shop talk with regular-guy vulnerability.

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If you’ve never listened, this episode is a stellar example of two pros riffing on friendship, family, comedy, neuroses, and the meaning (and absurdity) of it all—anchored in warmth, candor, and a shared understanding of what it means to be a performer and a person.

Transcript

[Fitz]

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[Rob Corddry]

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[Fitz]

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[Rob Corddry]

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[Fitz]

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[Fitz]

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[Fitz]

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[Fitz]

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[Rob Corddry]

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[Fitz]

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[Fitz]

Hi, welcome to Fitz Dog Radio. It is coming up on the holidays. Get your shopping done. Do it. We just exchanged presents early because my family is in the air right now. Going to South Africa while I stay behind. Going to New York tomorrow for two weeks, uh, taking care of my mother in law's boyfriend. He can't travel, so I'm babysitting him. I'm babysitting, I'm hanging out with him. He's a great man and I'm excited to spend time with him, but he's, He's. He doesn't get around like he used to. Anyway, so I'm in LA right now and I'm alone in the house, which is very rare. Usually I'm the one that's gone and everybody else is here, missing me, plotting against me. And now I'm alone, just sitting. I tried to not do too much. I'm trying to just sit, you know, I meditated. I did some reading and I'm realizing that I miss my wife a lot. And I. Here's the thing about my wife. She's a very sweet, kind, caring, intelligent person. Not funny. My wife's not funny. Now she knows not even our tastes in comedy are different. But it's very rare that you meet somebody who says that their spouse is not funny. It's almost like they're afraid to admit it. Like, especially women with their husbands. Like, the husband's gotta be funny. He's gotta be. You know, it's like a vow that you take. And you know what? Trying to be funny is very, very different than being funny people. You know, like Hitler. I bet Eva Braun, you said he's got a great sense of humor. Oh, yeah. Oh, we laugh and we laugh. Und we laugh and we kill. And some we laugh, we kill and laugh. The Fuhrer. So, yeah, so I stayed home. There was a comedy club party tonight. I haven't gone to any of the comedy club parties. I haven't gone to a couple other party. I don't. I don't like the parties. I don't like not remembering people's faces and names. And then I like to call people the next day that went to the party and find out if it sucked and when it did, which is almost always. I feel so happy. I rejoice that the party sucked and I missed it. I didn't have to experience a bad. I almost feel like I'd prefer to miss a bad party more than I would enjoy attending a really good party. Does that make sense? I feel like there's just one of the greatest feelings in the world. It's just relief. It's the relief of it all. Anyway, it's late at night when I'm recording this, so if. I hope. I don't seem tired. I meant to do this earlier today. Um, just got back from the punchline in San Francisco. I always kid around about, like, my two favorite clubs is my second favorite club in the country. I think just between us, San Francisco Punchline is my favorite club in the country. It's really extraordinary. It's so unique. The vibe. The people that come out are just have great energy. They're up for anything. They're not woke. Everything. San Francisco so woke. Not the punchline. You could talk about some dark shit and they go with it. And the. Physically the room is great. The staff is great and it's been my favorite room. And I know this is breaking news because I always say my second favorite room in the country, but this truly is. I think My favorite room in the country, and it has been for 25 years. I come up with so much new material. I was talking about how San Francisco is. It's all. The only people working anymore are the people that are training the AI to take their jobs over next year and become part of the home. Why is there so many homeless? Because you trained your job away. And the next step will be the homeless training the bots to be homeless. Bots. They'll be like a hobo app. And you. You know, you can get. You can get two of them to fight for a pack of Marlboros or a squeegee your windshield, and you'll just tap your credit card on the chest of the bot, and the money will go directly to Bezos yacht somewhere. Uh, I hung out with Louis CK he was in town doing a book signing. So we wandered around the city for, like, four hours and just had such a blast. Went to eat at a. He wanted to go to, like, a great sushi restaurant. So of course we go in and I order a ton. Like, way more than I would normally order, but I know he's paying because he's rich. And then the bill came, and then it just sat there. And I looked at him and he looked at me, and I'm like, do you want some money for that? And he's like, no, I got it. I go, well, why'd you take so long? He goes, cause you ordered a lot of fucking sushi. A lot. I said, all right, point taken. Um, work with a great comic, Nicole Buchanan, who's a Comedy Store comic. You're going to hear big thanks from her. She did a great sets all weekend. I took her to the City Lights bookstore, which is my favorite bookstore in the world. It's where all the beat poets came up. Ginsburg and Kerouac. And. And I bought her Kerouac. But on the road. I got her on the road. She'd never read it. Everyone's gotta read it. 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He created Children's Hospital. I mean does he even need, do you need an intro for a guy like this? One of the funniest guys alive and just a good spirit, a Boston Mick and I love him. Here's my talk with the great Rob Cordry. My guest Rob Cordry is, I mean look here's the thing.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

You could put lipstick on a pig. You could put a. You could put a hat on an Irishman. Still an Irishman.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. This is good, because I don't know what kind of UV rating these lights have.

[Fitz]

That's right.

[Rob Corddry]

And you and I are bald, gentlemen. That's the only reason I was wearing. I ever wear a hat anyway, is because of errant rays.

[Fitz]

I wear. Actually, I wear bucket hats pretty much 90% of the time.

[Rob Corddry]

Do you really?

[Fitz]

Well, I got that thing now on the top of the ears where the skin is hard. And then look at my neck. It looks like it was microwave.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, I'm getting that too. I'm getting that.

[Fitz]

You know, it's like. I didn't know. When I was young, I enjoyed the sun. I've been out here for 25 years. I've. I really love being outside. And I just. I didn't think.

[Rob Corddry]

You see, I didn't like. I don't care for the sun. No, I don't give a. About the sun. And then we moved to la and I was like, this place is great. The one thing, one complaint I have is the sun. And like, I would be. I ruined, like, this side of my face because I never wore sun. Did you ever wear sunscreen on the East Coast? I mean, if you weren't at the beach.

[Fitz]

Never.

[Rob Corddry]

No, of course not. It wasn't even a thing. And so I spent the first year in LA not wearing sunscreen. And. And I was like, this. Half of my face looked, you know, ruined. I was an old woman. Yeah. From the. From the sun beating down into my. The window.

[Fitz]

So you were. You. Yeah, that's.

[Rob Corddry]

Actually, I've since had it fixed. I've had a lot of work done. Yeah, a lot of work done.

[Fitz]

Yeah. And you got the. The nose was.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, the thing.

[Fitz]

The nose.

[Rob Corddry]

The nose. I'm keeping just.

[Fitz]

Did you ever break your nose? It looks. It looks a little crooked.

[Rob Corddry]

No, no, no. It's my grandmother's nose, so. Fuck you, man.

[Fitz]

Did she have a little bit of a crooked nose?

[Rob Corddry]

I don't know. I don't. I don't.

[Fitz]

It's got a little bit of a bend to it.

[Rob Corddry]

I don't love my. I got really big nostrils. Yeah, I got that going for me.

[Fitz]

I think that. I think that's not a bad look. I got the gap between the teeth. I think as an actor, you want to have something. Right.

[Rob Corddry]

My wife is doing Invisalign, or she just finished. And her teeth look perfect.

[Fitz]

Did they before? Yes, they Were already.

[Rob Corddry]

There was one tooth that was a little cockeyed. Right. So she fixed that. And now she's like. She got them off. And there's. From what she tells me, there's tiny little gaps in a couple of the front teeth on the bottom. And I'm just like. I just nod and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So she's like, so I got another year at least with the retainers. Gotta get rid of that.

[Fitz]

I was like, yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

She's, like, on a mission to perfect everything about her.

[Fitz]

But that's what you, as a husband, should be concerned about. Why are you upgrading? I'm not upgrading. Are you on the market? I don't know.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, I've got this, like.

[Fitz]

Yeah, like. You haven't complained about her teeth.

[Rob Corddry]

No, I complain about nothing. Yes, she's a.

[Fitz]

A very pretty woman. I met your wife. She flashed. She was on a party bus one time and she flashed her tits to cars that were driving by. Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

She's one of the good ones. She's fun, but she. I never. I never considered that. Yeah.

[Fitz]

If you could change one thing about your wife, what would it be? She doesn't listen to.

[Rob Corddry]

Honestly. I know. I know she doesn't. I'm gonna try and answer this honestly. What would I change? You know what? And I tell her this to her face. She thinks she's a great storyteller.

[Fitz]

And.

[Rob Corddry]

She does have good stories with a solid beginning, middle, and end. But there's a lot of fat in there that can be true.

[Fitz]

Like, there's a great story in there.

[Rob Corddry]

Like, you've got to know it's January 11th. No, 12th, and it was like 2 in the afternoon. And so, you know, the whole. And. And then she will repeat some detail of the story three or four times.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

So by the time you get to the end of the story, I have adhd. I've forgotten the beginning of the story. I'm totally lost. She thinks I don't listen to her.

[Fitz]

I think that's true for a lot of wives. I think wives are very caught up in the truth in a story. Yes. And I think we're caught up in the narrative.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, we're caught up in the narrative. You know what? And a little exaggeration.

[Fitz]

My stories get better every year.

[Rob Corddry]

A little hype.

[Fitz]

Exactly right.

[Rob Corddry]

Exactly right. I've just come to realize that a lot of my stories, or not a lot, but there's a good handful of my stories are not my stories, really. There was a friend in college who I hung out with all the time. And he would tell this story all the time. And I would tell this story to people that happened to my friend. And then it just became my story. Like, I can picture it. I have a picture in my head of these certain stories, and I'll be telling a story, be like, yeah. So we're on the Staten island ferry, and these guys, these two homeless guys, they're singing, hauling oats, right? And they get to the. Wait a minute. This is not my story. I wasn't there. Holy shit. That's Mike's story. So my friend Mike.

[Fitz]

I wonder if the homeless guys were like, no, I'm Hall.

[Rob Corddry]

Well, no, what it was. It wasn't hall at Oates. It was easy, like, Sunday morning.

[Fitz]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[Rob Corddry]

And so one guy. And of course, again, this is Mike's story.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

But I feel like somehow it's mine. One of the guys.

[Fitz]

Lionel Richie.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, Lionel Richie. There you go. Well, I'm easy. And the other guy did the. And the guy that was doing the verse kept trying to end it. Like, he'd go. He'd be like, easy, like, Sunday morning.

[Fitz]

Right?

[Rob Corddry]

And the guy would go. And this guy was getting so annoyed. And I can see both of these dudes. Yeah, I can see one of one has dreads.

[Fitz]

Okay.

[Rob Corddry]

I could see him.

[Fitz]

Yeah, yeah. And meanwhile, it's the Staten island ferry. You got it. You got a lot of time to kill. You can definitely go seven, eight, nine verses on that. You know, they did it the whole way there, apparently. Do you ever conflate stories? I've done that where, like, I've gotten a massage and. And something happened, and then I got a massage another time, and I take the two good parts and I make all the time.

[Rob Corddry]

And that's the problem with telling a story around my wife. Because, listen, I mean, sure, if we're conflating these stories, they're still probably gonna be good stories. We're professionals.

[Fitz]

Right.

[Rob Corddry]

And. And my wife will go, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it happened. And I'm like, oh, the fact checker. The fact checker. And she's always right.

[Fitz]

Yeah, she's always right. And not only is she right, not only is she cockblocking the flow of the story. You look like a liar. Yes.

[Rob Corddry]

We've had this argument for 25 years of our marriage. We've argued about whether it's okay to inject hyperbole into a story or whether it has to be factual to the letter. And, I mean, both sides have their.

[Fitz]

And I do think a little Interplay with those two things can be fun.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

But not when the. The fact person has to be aware that you're in the zone.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to let me take back over again. Once. Once you correct my. Whatever. It was raining, not misting, you know, once you correct me, like, get. Let me, like, throw it back, Throw.

[Fitz]

It back and don't stop me like this.

[Rob Corddry]

No, no, that's exactly what happens.

[Fitz]

You know, just a little.

[Rob Corddry]

That's exactly what happens. But now the more we talk about it, the more I would not change that about her. Yeah, it's kind of charming in a way.

[Fitz]

Right.

[Rob Corddry]

I do. Like, at first, I would get kind of not embarrassed, but, like, worried that she was boring people. And she never is. She never is. She's very, like, looks people in the eye. She's tastefully tactile. She reach out an arm. Yeah, she'll reach out an arm to, like, a shoulder. She'll include everyone. Randy Sklar says, like, Sandy does the box. She'll get. She'll create the perimeter. Everybody's included. She'll gather people in, and just by the power of that and her personality alone. The story is engaging, but it's, like, interminable.

[Fitz]

Is she Irish?

[Rob Corddry]

No, no, she's a Hungarian Jew.

[Fitz]

I mean, Irish tell stories. My wife's a Jew and she. Jews are litigators. Can we cut that out? But if you're talking to the skull scleros, you always have to create a perimeter because there's always four of them. Them and their wives. Yeah, yeah. You know.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fitz]

When did you first get to know who was Jason and who's Randy and telling you.

[Rob Corddry]

Okay, yeah, that's a good. That's a. That's a good question. When I was. I came, you know, in comedy. Doing comedy.

[Fitz]

To school together.

[Rob Corddry]

Yes. That's when I learned. That's when I learned. I mean, I knew them in New York. You know, we were just acquaintances, but I liked them. I thought they were funny. And then. And just so happened. Yeah. Kids were going to the same school. Not Jason's, Randy's. So I had more contact with Randy and when. So now I have no problem. No problem telling them apart.

[Fitz]

Randy wears glasses.

[Rob Corddry]

You know what? See, they both. They fuck with people because they both. They'll sometimes be like, I'm the facial hair guy for a while, and then get rid of the facial hair. Randy was a facial hair guy.

[Fitz]

Randy had the. I used to think Randy round. Cause he had round facial hair.

[Rob Corddry]

Well, you really had to think about it.

[Fitz]

Huh? Yeah. Well, I've known them as long as you have. I go back to New York with them.

[Rob Corddry]

I'll see Jason just randomly at a store or something and he'll be like, hey, Cordy, what's going on? It's Jason.

[Fitz]

Yeah, I love that.

[Rob Corddry]

Like, they're always like, just taking care.

[Fitz]

Of people, you know, it is amazing that they are not affronted by it at all. When I see people get it wrong and they, it really, there's something amorphous about being a twin where you can just accept that, you know, we're fucking identical twins who dress the same.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

Who wear our hair the same.

[Rob Corddry]

We do fuck with the same job.

[Fitz]

They do the same jokes, the same act. They get the same hour, God bless them. They fucking earn half as much money as I know. You know, we're working the same gigs. I know what I get paid. They're making half it. So they work twice as hard. They do episodes of TV shows, they do commercials. They do well with their podcast like those.

[Rob Corddry]

They bust their ass. They bust their ass.

[Fitz]

Yeah. I have a lot of respect for them.

[Rob Corddry]

They do a lot of stuff.

[Fitz]

Keep a good humor about it.

[Rob Corddry]

Well, you know, do you know the story about when they were born?

[Fitz]

No.

[Rob Corddry]

See, I was there. I can tell this story. I remember and I can picture it. I can picture it in my head. I, they, they had a, one had a. They had different, like color coded clips on their diapers or something to clip their diapers. And. And you know, the mother was just very cautious about those clips because that's how she told them apart. And then the, the, the dad one day changed the diapers and, and used regular clips. He didn't use the colored clips. And she freaked out. And she was like, which one's Randy and which one's Jason? And he goes, what are you talking about? That's Randy, that's Jason. And they're just identical looking blobs, not even fully formed humans yet. They're babies. And of course, you know, you know that he was like, that's Jason, that's Randy. Don't worry about it. I know. You know, like he just covered.

[Fitz]

That's existential.

[Rob Corddry]

He just took, he took a guess. So Randy might be Jason and Jason might be Randy.

[Fitz]

That is existential.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, it's a great story.

[Fitz]

At what point? That's the question. At what point do you assume your identity as a baby, as a human? Does it matter? Like, I could see switching babies at the hospital being an issue, but if it's the same Sperm and egg.

[Rob Corddry]

Right.

[Fitz]

At what age do you differentiate? You're always like a nicotine.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fitz]

You're a nicotine guy, and you're also. You're also a lip gloss guy.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't call it lip gloss.

[Fitz]

Is that a girl?

[Rob Corddry]

I guess you could say it does give my lips a little shine, but I don't call it lip gloss. Nobody calls it lip gloss, you know?

[Fitz]

Well, it has sparkle.

[Rob Corddry]

It's a balm.

[Fitz]

It has sparkles.

[Rob Corddry]

It doesn't have sparkles like I've been kissing strippers and eating fried chicken. No, I. Yeah, I've got a real. I mean, if I believed anything. I don't. That. That Freud said ever, I would say that I have an oral fixation, but I don't know. I think that guy's a little Freud. Yeah. I don't know much about it. I was. What was I gonna say about the. Oh, yeah. So nicotine. Yeah. I loved smoking because, you know. Because. I don't know. I just love putting in my mouth.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Mints, cigarettes, dick, the whole deal. I'll put it in. I'll put it in.

[Fitz]

Do you get the same rush with Nick with dicks?

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Fitz]

Is it the same feeling?

[Rob Corddry]

No, you don't get it now. You don't get, like a little high when you smoke a cigarette after not smoking one for a long time after you suck a dick, it's just like, ah, it's a dick.

[Fitz]

It's just a dick. Yeah, I know.

[Rob Corddry]

You know, and you. I imagine that different dicks are, you know, kind of a. A rush, I would say.

[Fitz]

Right. Well, the best is when I'm done. I put it on the ground and I stomp on it. Nobody's ever wanted a second blow job from me.

[Rob Corddry]

But I'm committed to a nicotine addiction for life. I mean, I think it's a fairly benign drug.

[Fitz]

Have you tried the patch? My friend's been on a patch for 20 years.

[Rob Corddry]

I did. It irritated my skin, but I used to love it. Yeah, I used to love it. I would, like. I would get a little antsy and I didn't know why, and it's. Cause I didn't have a patch on. And I put the patch on, and I swear it was like 10 minutes later. I just felt this wave of calm. And I've been. I've been chasing that buzz ever since. And nothing does it.

[Fitz]

Well, because you said you have adhd, you're essentially, you're taking Ritalin. It's the same thing. It's just a stimulus.

[Rob Corddry]

And it's another thing I take.

[Fitz]

Oh, on top of the nicotine?

[Rob Corddry]

Well, no, no, not Vyvanse.

[Fitz]

Yeah, whatever.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, same.

[Fitz]

Do you drink coffee as well?

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, you're on nicotine.

[Fitz]

I drink so much and coffee.

[Rob Corddry]

I like to go up. I like that. I never became a cocaine addict. Is. I mean, I don't know how I dodged that bullet.

[Fitz]

Did you try it?

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Fitz]

You enjoyed it?

[Rob Corddry]

I don't know. I feel like the Ritalin and Vyvanse are way better.

[Fitz]

Yeah, well, it's more controlled.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, I guess it's like, you know, we used to go to this. There was this bar in Brooklyn called Cokies. Do you remember that? Oh, my God, man. It was this. It was run by retired cops. And this was in Williamsburg. And you used to go and used to knock on the door and they'd open the door. You had to have a girl with you to get in. And so we'd go in and there was this like, fluorescently lit bar with a bunch of, like, old people and families hanging out. And then you go into the back room and it's this huge room with picnic tables.

[Fitz]

Really?

[Rob Corddry]

There's no drinks. They don't serve drinks. You go to this little old phone booth in the corner and they've cut a hole through the wall into the phone booth. And you would just give them a 20. You give them 20 and they'd give you a little bag of coke.

[Fitz]

Like a glory hole for coke?

[Rob Corddry]

Yes.

[Fitz]

No kidding.

[Rob Corddry]

This was called Cokeys.

[Fitz]

That's crazy.

[Rob Corddry]

The coke was awful.

[Fitz]

It was awful.

[Rob Corddry]

I mean, but great in that it mirrored my ADHD medication. You know, it's all speed. It was all speed. You felt like a million bucks for about 15 minutes. And then you were like, oh, yeah, you know?

[Fitz]

Yeah. When we were kids, we would drive. I lived about 15 minutes from the Bronx, and we would drive down to the projects and we would buy coke and these motherfuckers saw us in a station wagon. You know, seven white kids piled in singles. And it was just vitamin B12. We had plenty of vitamin B12 as teenagers.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, we were chocked up on it. So chock full of B complex. I once worked with a guy who was recovering addict and. And he was like. He was really into health, as those recovering addicts turn out to be. And. And he was like, oh, you should try my vitamins. I was like, oh, okay, let me try them. And he was like, yeah, my guy makes These, they're, they're like proprietary. And I, and I took them. Me and the other guy in the, in the movie took them and took. There's like five or six of them. Different do different things apparently. And we took them and 20 minutes later, I don't know why, I'm feeling fantastic. But the other guy in the movie comes up to me and he's like, dude, this is speed. He gave us speed. And he's sweating. He does not like it. He likes to go down, not go up.

[Fitz]

Right. So going up, I don't know what it is with. Cause I have ADHD. I've been taking Ritalin for 20 something years every day. Well, I did it every day for 20 years and now the last four or five, I take it maybe like three days a week.

[Rob Corddry]

It made me a little sweaty.

[Fitz]

It made me crash around 4:00'. Clock. So what I started doing is I'd go to the gym every day. Every day that I take out, I go to the gym around 4 o' clock and if I work out, I don't crash. Oh yeah, I come right out of it. Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh wow.

[Fitz]

But what is it about stimulants that make ADHD neutralized?

[Rob Corddry]

I do not know.

[Fitz]

I think it has something to do with your nervous system is set baseline too low. It's almost like in a car if your transmission isn't shifting down enough. You know when you're on the low end of the gear and it's just kind of. You get no response.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

And so I think it's like downshifting and it just gets you racing up more and then physically and, and mentally you sync up.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, that makes sense. Although like one of the, one of the like I guess symptoms of ADHD is that, you know, your brain is just constantly moving. It's constantly, that's, that's the thing that it sort of focuses.

[Fitz]

But what's weird is when we take, when people with ADHD take stimulants, it calms us down.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

It doesn't jack us up. That's what did. When I went for the first time to the doctor, I go, how will I know if these pills are working? She's, if I have adhd, she goes, you're going to take these pills and if you get jacked up and crazy, you have adhd?

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. And I was like, yeah, I, it was like putting glasses on. I mean, I know that's sort of a cliche, but I'm newly diagnosed too.

[Fitz]

Oh, no kidding.

[Rob Corddry]

I've been self diagnosed for years.

[Fitz]

Sounds like it. Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

And so finally, my doctor was like, all right, shut up. Let's do the test. And he started giving me the test, and I was answering it, and I thought I was doing really well. I was like, I'm killing this test. Oh, my God. What does that mean? As he's asking me these questions, what does this mean? Like, if I'm not add, I must be stupid. Maybe I'm stupid. And I started panicking, and I was just like, God damn it, maybe I'll get this one wrong. No, I'm sure I aced that one, too. And he finished the test, and he goes, well, you're obviously overwhelmingly adhd. And I was like, oh. And I told my wife this story later, and she goes, rob, do you see what you were doing? You were getting a test for adhd, and your mind was somewhere else completely. You were. You were thinking of. You were taking a different test.

[Fitz]

Do you think he was factoring that in. In his diagnosis?

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, no, I was. My general. I can't imagine he was. These were just, like, sometimes. Rarely.

[Fitz]

Yeah, those are hard.

[Rob Corddry]

Perhaps.

[Fitz]

Yeah, those are hard.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

Now, it's. It's. It's a shame, because I look at. I wrote a book called Dear Mrs. Fitzsimmons about all the letters that were sent home when I was a kid in school, and they were almost all like, he's.

[Rob Corddry]

He's a pleasure to have in class.

[Fitz]

Yeah. He's either acting up and causing a scene, or he's asleep at his desk and it's like, yeah, that's adhd. Like, every single report says the exact same.

[Rob Corddry]

That you just described my life. Yeah. So. Yeah.

[Fitz]

So I have a lot of questions I want to ask you.

[Rob Corddry]

All right, go ahead.

[Fitz]

You really are. Before you came in, I said, I think Rob might be my favorite guest on my podcast.

[Rob Corddry]

You know what? This is definitely my favorite podcast. Really? Yeah.

[Fitz]

Oh, nice.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. And I say that with all due respect to the other podcasters who can go fuck themselves.

[Fitz]

Jason. Ellis. Fuck you, Ellis. You don't say that to him. He's the real thing.

[Rob Corddry]

I know, right? He's the real thing. Yeah.

[Fitz]

But. But one of the things I wanted to ask you is, how is your brother Nate?

[Rob Corddry]

Good. Oh, speaking of twins, because, you know.

[Fitz]

He and I just have a really solid friendship.

[Rob Corddry]

Do you.

[Fitz]

Don't you remember he came on my podcast, and I think he stormed out?

[Rob Corddry]

No.

[Fitz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got into it.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, I don't remember this at all.

[Fitz]

You don't remember this?

[Rob Corddry]

No, no, no, no.

[Fitz]

He came On. And you and I had been friends for years, and so then I forget how it came up that I invited him on. And. Or maybe he asked if he could be on. I can't even remember. But he came over when I had my studio at my house, and I just immediately fell into ball. Irish ball busting. And I'm busting Nate's balls, and he just didn't. I didn't. I didn't take the first step of creating the foundation. Sure, sure. I cut straight to busting balls.

[Rob Corddry]

You. You started at older Cordry.

[Fitz]

Yes.

[Rob Corddry]

And then didn't just adjust to Cordry the younger.

[Fitz]

So what happened was he did exactly what I would have done, which is like, Irish guys also don't like to be fucked with unless it's a friendship. Yeah, totally.

[Rob Corddry]

Totally. Unless there's at least some acknowledgement.

[Fitz]

So he got fucking snappy at me, and I came right back, and it became a little bit of a stalemate. And then he left. And there was a little bit of a Twitter feud.

[Rob Corddry]

No.

[Fitz]

That went on.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, fuck. I. I don't know if I even. I don't know if I was aware of this.

[Fitz]

Meanwhile, your brother, like, by all accounts, is as great of a guy as you are people.

[Rob Corddry]

He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He just. I would say, if anything, he. He doesn't suffer fools. No offense.

[Fitz]

You know what I mean? That should be the name of the podcast.

[Rob Corddry]

He doesn't suffer fools. You know, he's like, that's not even a good way.

[Fitz]

He's very. He's got more of an edge than you. He.

[Rob Corddry]

He feels everything more. I have a nice little buffer.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

I think where, you know, one of my friends. I don't know if I've told you this before, but Seth Morris, you know Seth, he's like. He's naked babies. Yeah. He's from Northern California, so we could not be more different. And one day we were at UCB performing, and he said to me, I forget what I was saying. I was just joking around. But afterwards, he goes, hey, man, you know what? You can be really mean. And I was like, oh, fuck, I can be really mean. Oh, wow. Not everybody likes this. Okay, I'm sorry. Let's start again. You know.

[Fitz]

No, I feel like that you talked about the sunshine in California. That's my complaint about California, is I have never been able to get in sync with the mentality out here. People still think I'm rude. I do this thing whenever a comedian introduces me at a comedy club, and this can be at the Laugh Factory. New kid. I don't know him. Could be. I go to Cleveland, Ohio, and there's a local guy. That's the host, ladies and gentlemen. This next guy, he's. Blah, blah, blah. He's been on Blah, blah, blah. Please welcome Greg for the Simmons. And then I come up, and the crowd's clapping, and then they shake your hand. And I always go, thanks, faggot. Sometimes I've never talked to them before, and so.

[Rob Corddry]

Wow.

[Fitz]

I can always tell immediately, like, if a guy laughs, I can see him laughing on his way off stage, or I can see him furrowing his brow. And I had this one kid at the Laugh Factory come up to me. I guess I'd done it to him three or four times. Times. And he comes up and he goes, hey, man, did I do something to you or. And I go, dude, we're comedians.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. Right. The. The comedian. Now, I know there is a. There is a. A respect now for language that could be perceived as hateful. But a. But a backstage. And that. That counts as backstage at a comedy club. The Green Room.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Like the shit we've seen back there.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

It's horrifying.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

And awesome. Like.

[Fitz]

Right.

[Rob Corddry]

It's just.

[Fitz]

It's like a safe space in the right way.

[Rob Corddry]

It's almost why it took us longer for every. That everybody else to get on board with, like, not being able to say retard or something.

[Fitz]

Right.

[Rob Corddry]

Still miss that one. Although I hear it's coming back.

[Fitz]

It's making a huge comeback. It started in Austin. They're making big strides in Austin.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, wow. Good for them. Good for them. Well, it's Texas. I mean, I know it's Austin, but, you know, they're the ones, I guess, to lead the charge.

[Fitz]

Well, there's a lot of. I think we're in a very interesting place politically, and I think you were a political science major in college, right?

[Rob Corddry]

Nope.

[Fitz]

Yeah, you were. Oh, and you're starting a podcast on Jason Ellis's.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Called Politics now and Then. It's just comparing now to, were you.

[Fitz]

At any point in college, a political science major?

[Rob Corddry]

And I don't even know, really. I don't even know if I could define political science, so. No.

[Fitz]

Well, I got to say something. Well, look at my microphone. My. Your Wikipedia page needs a.

[Rob Corddry]

It says a political science major.

[Fitz]

Political science major in college.

[Rob Corddry]

I was a journalism major before classes even started.

[Fitz]

Oh.

[Rob Corddry]

And then I decided, like, I chose this because I like to write.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

But I have no interest in Journalism whatsoever. I've never read a newspaper.

[Fitz]

Think how much money you could be making right now. Fucking journalists, man. It's teachers and journalists are kind of the backbone of society in terms of keeping democracy alive.

[Rob Corddry]

Sure.

[Fitz]

And I don't know how any journalists make a living any longer.

[Rob Corddry]

I don't know how they put up with it either.

[Fitz]

Like, well, they're banned from the White House if you don't.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, they're banned from.

[Fitz]

If you don't agree to read the press release that they give you, you can't go in the Pentagon any longer and report. You can't ask around.

[Rob Corddry]

And I guess the BBC is doing. And this is not even here. The BBC was like interviewing people. And if you have. All right, they had a story they were doing on Trump. I believe it was Trump. It might have been Kash Patel, but I think it was Trump. And they were like, if you don't like Donald Trump, then you can't do this story. If you've written anything that is slightly biased toward Trump or that or the MAGA sort of political world, you can't do the story. And so that's left. They're left with people that have never written politics before. They write, you know, entertainment.

[Fitz]

There's no historical context. There's no pushback.

[Rob Corddry]

There's no knowledge transcribing what they say.

[Fitz]

And handing it over. But I think we're at a really interesting place politically. And you saw it with this election that just happened where the. The right kind of got their asses handed to them. And you're seeing it now. Bush, Bush. Trump got booed at a football game.

[Rob Corddry]

I wish.

[Fitz]

On Sunday. But I mean, I think. But at the same time, go to football games. I know. Well, no, because he usually does very well.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, he does.

[Fitz]

Oh, well, he goes to ufc. He's a fucking. He's.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, sure was. Sure.

[Fitz]

Caesar at the.

[Rob Corddry]

Know your audience forum.

[Fitz]

But. But then you're also seeing the language barriers start to roll back and the emphasis on safe spaces and all that bullshit is going away. And I think something's going to emerge that is stepping away from the fringes. I think that. I think our society is done with the marginal voices.

[Rob Corddry]

Good riddance.

[Fitz]

Yes.

[Rob Corddry]

I hope you're right about that. And I'm talking about on the liberal side as well.

[Fitz]

Yeah, exactly.

[Rob Corddry]

Progressives, you know, Cause of the day, guys.

[Fitz]

Cause of the day.

[Rob Corddry]

Cause of the day they'll just jump on because it's almost like they're professionals.

[Fitz]

I know.

[Rob Corddry]

You know, I know.

[Fitz]

It's. And they show that it doesn't move the needle. Celebrities endorsing stuff usually backfires.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

Cause it just looks like, you know, it's like someone coming out of the Heritage foundation with a study, and you go, like, well, what does that mean to me? It's like, you know. So anyway, I don't want to talk politics. There's so many other things I want to ask you.

[Rob Corddry]

Why did you think I was poli sci? That's on my Wikipedia page. Huh? Yeah. Interesting. All right, go on.

[Fitz]

Which was more meaningful to you? Winning four Primetime Emmys or becoming an Eagle Scout?

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, my God. That's a.

[Fitz]

Because at that age, that was probably a big fucking.

[Rob Corddry]

I would have to say the Eagle Scout. The Emmys are like, you're. It's just swirling around. That whole experience is just this anxiety at awards shows, you know? And you almost at one point don't want to win because you're like, oh, God, then I gotta get up there and I gotta give a speech. Yeah. It's gotta be. I don't know what. I've always blow a speech. I've. I've sworn off speeches. I hope I don't win another thing in my life, really, until my kids get married, I am not making a speech anywhere. I always blow it.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

At a wedding. Oh.

[Fitz]

What goes wrong?

[Rob Corddry]

I don't know. I say the wrong thing, or at least I say the wrong. I. I don't know.

[Fitz]

I don't know.

[Rob Corddry]

I just seem to always make people mad.

[Fitz]

Not make a play plan or you feel like the choices. Make the choice you make in advance.

[Rob Corddry]

But, see, the one time I had a very successful speech was at my oldest spot mitzvah.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

And. And that's when I had, like, something written down, and I. And I chucked it.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

And I just talked. And. And it went well.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

And. And I don't know. I don't trust myself to be able to do that so well anymore. I don't know what's changed, but, like, I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I guess I'm just more nervous about giving speeches in general, but.

[Fitz]

Well, I think it's a phobia. And you maybe took the phobia on at a certain point.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. I think a light. Like a. A light case. Like a kiss. A kiss of a speech phobia. Yeah. I don't like it. Does anybody like it?

[Fitz]

I used to love it. And the problem is I'm so good at it that when people die, I'm asked to give the eulogy. Yeah. I was asked to give my friend Dave's eulogy. I wasn't even that close to that guy. I played. I played in a poker game for years. I mean, for many years. We played together, of course, and we were neighbors and he was a great guy, but by no means was I the inner circle. And then his wife asked me to give the eulogy and I'm like, fuck.

[Rob Corddry]

And I, you know who you're asking? Right?

[Fitz]

Like, I destroyed. I almost brought him back to life. The place went crazy. I roasted him. I roasted his Asian wife. I did every. Because the thing is, everybody needs to laugh so bad. There's no better crowd. That's why the Irish wake, famous Irish wake.

[Rob Corddry]

That's what they want. Right. I've always wanted to go to one of those, like, funerals when like a celebrity comedian dies because it's just like, just as good as a roast.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

You know, Right.

[Fitz]

But yeah, you know whose was good was Norm MacDonald's.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, my God.

[Fitz]

I went to his a couple years ago. Kevin Nealon, who is, who is also. He's probably the best in the business and they always make him close.

[Rob Corddry]

Really?

[Fitz]

He closed Gary Shandling's. He closed norms.

[Rob Corddry]

He closed. What's his, what's he. What's his take on everything?

[Fitz]

He's so smart.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

His every word is so subtle and smart. And he's. He never looks like he's trying. Here's the thing about comedy that I'm starting to realize as I'm doing it for 35 years, starting.

[Rob Corddry]

Go ahead.

[Fitz]

Is if they see you needy or, or sweaty.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

They just pull back.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

And he's the opposite of that.

[Rob Corddry]

No, he's.

[Fitz]

Yeah, he's just in the pocket.

[Rob Corddry]

Very comfortable.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Very comfortable performer.

[Fitz]

Yeah. So when he does it, it's so minimal and, and just, just his, I don't know, his mind. He's just got a great comedic mind. Yeah, he's one of the most underrated stand up comedians. Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

He's one of those guys like Norm that, that like sort of a comedian's comedian, would you say?

[Fitz]

I think so, yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

I mean, Norm was the great. He was. He was the, the best.

[Fitz]

He was the best.

[Rob Corddry]

He was the best.

[Fitz]

And it's funny because, like, people talk about Chappelle or Louis or Chris Rock and all that stuff. They're great and they're all great, but they're powerful. They're theater performers. And then you get Norm, who is just. He's a club guy. He doesn't belong in the theater. He's Intimate.

[Rob Corddry]

He talk about telling a story. Like he's got. He has some great stories.

[Fitz]

Well, I was thinking about this. With great comedians, it's very much about phraseology, inflection. It's about whether or not this person had jokes or not. You would still be hanging on the edge of your seat like Dave Chappelle. The way that guy smokes a cigarette alone. I'll watch it.

[Rob Corddry]

No, it's entrancing.

[Fitz]

Yes. Yeah. And then on top of it, it's ballsy. The way he prances the stage, the way he slaps the mic on his thigh. There's all these things that trap you in. And then he gives you insight and then he gives you un. Untenable positions.

[Rob Corddry]

And then there's a long. Yes, exactly. And then there's a long pause and he'll start to laugh and. And have to sit down or something.

[Fitz]

Right?

[Rob Corddry]

Like. Yeah, it's. And that's something. It usually drives me crazy watching comedians like, you know, kind of laughing or even giggling at the.

[Fitz]

I don't like indulgent comedians and I don't. And as a rule, I hate when comedians laugh at their own jokes.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

And I have noticed every black comic in America now slaps the mic on their thigh. And I'm on the record for that.

[Rob Corddry]

Funny.

[Fitz]

Funny.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, funny.

[Fitz]

It's crazy. And they. But here's what the white comics are doing. They. They put their foot up on the monitor on stage. Like, you know how the monitors at the front of the stage by the front row, they walk over and they'll put their foot. Foot on it and then keep talking.

[Rob Corddry]

Who started that? Who did?

[Fitz]

I'm not gonna name names, but it, it. It's so like sticking your crotch in their face as if to say, I'm so comfortable.

[Rob Corddry]

It's very power. It's a power. It's like a very self conscious power position.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

You know, it's like doing your. The whole act with somehow with your hands on your hips.

[Fitz]

Like Superman.

[Rob Corddry]

Like Superman. Or like just in a. Yeah. If I could do it like this and still hold the mic.

[Fitz]

Exactly. And then you got the opposite of that, which is the sitting on the stool guy. Like, Marin knows how to work a stool.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

He plants his feet in the mid. Halfway up the stool.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

Leans forward. And it's like that takes a certain confidence. And if you can. The thing is, people think I could never get away with that. Do it and see how it feels. Because you might just draw them in in a way that you don't know, because exactly what I was saying before. Because you're not needing them. You're so comfortable.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah. I would say, like, if I were. If I did stand up, it would like, you sit on the stool. If you really have to sit on the stool. If you feel like this is. You want to bring it down to that, you know, sort of lower energy, maybe, or maybe you're just not feeling like a hundred percent, you know, and.

[Fitz]

Well, Cosby was a stool guy. He was the best stool guy of all time.

[Rob Corddry]

Sure. Yeah. Well, he was also the best storyteller at all and got great drugs.

[Fitz]

Well, his stories would put people right to sleep. People think he was using drugs. It was the stories.

[Rob Corddry]

It was, you know, he. I don't want to go on. Go ahead. I don't want to go on about, you know, this story. Like that. Everybody. When. When all that news broke about Cosby and everybody was so shocked.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Like, everyone was shocked except for every single comedian who.

[Fitz]

Every comedian who knew that he would.

[Rob Corddry]

On his off days would go down to USC with like a whistle around his neck and like, kind of coach young girls, you know, running track.

[Fitz]

Yeah. And he was always, like, he was big mentor. It was always about mentoring.

[Rob Corddry]

Mentor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he was. He was dirty.

[Fitz]

It was the worst kept secret in Hollywood.

[Rob Corddry]

Yes, exactly right.

[Fitz]

Exactly right.

[Rob Corddry]

And, oh, God, people were so shocked. We. We were talking about Bill Cosby a couple years ago, my wife and I, and. And it was something horrible, like just about what he'd done and the details of the story. And then one of my kids came in, my youngest one, and said, who's Bill Cosby? And my wife just went, no, no. Didn't skip a beach to it. America's dad.

[Fitz]

Well, it's like them asking who O.J. simpson is, like one of the top 10 running backs in history. Yeah, right, right. Yeah. I mean, who was a. Actually really good comedic actor.

[Rob Corddry]

He was. He was.

[Fitz]

And it's so weird, that one little thing, just one.

[Rob Corddry]

Little thing, you know, who hasn't wanted to cut someone's head off every now and then, you know. Right. He had the balls to follow through.

[Fitz]

Yeah. Yeah. That's terrible. Terrible. The Juice. The Juice.

[Rob Corddry]

The Juice is loose.

[Fitz]

So you did. We were talking about you being a great storyteller earlier, which just comes with being Irish. It's your.

[Rob Corddry]

It's my birthright.

[Fitz]

When you are Irish, it is considered, like when they always say showing up, Irish means you show up and you didn't bring a bottle of wine or Bread or a lasagna?

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Fitz]

And I always feel like if you got to bring a lasagna to a party, you're fucking dull. I feel like I'm bringing lasagna, I'm.

[Rob Corddry]

Bringing stories, bringing the money.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

And the Irish goodbye too, is leaving without saying goodbye to it.

[Fitz]

You don't need to.

[Rob Corddry]

I love that. Yeah, I love that.

[Fitz]

So we, I, I saw on your Wikipedia page, oh boy. This whole I should do a podcast called Wikipedia where I just ask people off their Wikipedia page. You did Ari Shafir's this is not Happening podcast?

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

So I was curious. I didn't get a chance to watch them. What were the story? You don't have to tell the whole stories. But what were roughly the stories?

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, I probably told this story here. It's, it's. I told the story about how my wife called my elderly neighbor a.

[Fitz]

That's the lead to the story or is that the.

[Rob Corddry]

I might have led with that. I don't know. You know, and I was doing, it was in a standup club with a mic and everything. Like, I was sort of doing like fake standup, like posing like I knew standups do like take the mic out and, you know, do that, the whole thing. And so I was, I wasn't 100% comfortable with all that. But like the story tells itself like in a nutshell. Like she was these, these, these neighbors of those, like, you know, kind of. They're old. They're just old. They've been living there for 50 years. They're busy bodies. And so they're always like, they, we, we suspected that they turned us in for having an over height fe fence when we moved in and they denied it, but whatever, we got the fence taken down and it was a lot of money. And then one day somebody in behind us was, was, was taking out one of their retaining walls and they got in touch with us and said, you know, you better watch out for that because, because that might, you know, screw up your land. You might have a landslide or whatever. And, and my wife sent an email to me, forwarded it to me and said, or so she thought and said, this proves that it was that know it all cunt who turned us in for the fence and hit sand right back to the woman. Yeah, yeah.

[Fitz]

Where is the shovel to. To dig yourself out of that one. What was her move?

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, well, like a sitcom ensued. Like, we've got a half an hour to go through all the bad ideas before we get to the good one. And you know, before we learn our lesson. And they were. Her sister was in town, I believe, and her sister was like, you should break in. We should go. They're not there. They weren't there. She went right over there and they weren't there.

[Fitz]

No email on the phone at that age.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, no. They don't know what to do. They don't know what they're. They have flip phones.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

And so, yeah, they're. They're, you know, it's in there. It's in that house. And she was like, it's gonna be easy to break in there.

[Fitz]

Let's break in, delete their email.

[Rob Corddry]

And then finally she said there was a couple other bad ideas bandied about, but she settled on going over there when they got home and apologize in person. But holding our newborn baby.

[Fitz]

Oh, you know. Yes, That's a good prop.

[Rob Corddry]

It's really good. Yeah, she's very, very good.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

I thought it was kind of genius, so. And the woman was like, oh, no, no big deal at all. No, forget it. Forget it. Yeah, but I didn't turn you in for that fence.

[Fitz]

She did say that.

[Rob Corddry]

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Fitz]

Yeah. And how was the relationship after that?

[Rob Corddry]

It's fine. You know, they're. They're still those neighbors that, like, we had our backyard redone and there's a steep staircase without, like a railing or anything.

[Fitz]

And.

[Rob Corddry]

And I took. I took Gary back there, the guy, he's the husband. And. And he was looking down that staircase, and he's like, legally blind, I think, and he was like, oh, oh, boy. Oh, like, he's, you know, he's like, you should get a railing on that right there. Oh, that. That step right there. I think that's uneven. That could be a lawsuit. Like, he's, he's, he's. He's factoring in, like, legal trouble.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

And I was like, why did I.

[Fitz]

Bring him back here? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Why did I bring him?

[Fitz]

Well, that's the thing about, like, I'm a neighbor guy. I. We live in this pocket of Venice beach where every. Everybody knows each other.

[Rob Corddry]

That's great.

[Fitz]

But, you know, but I'm a neighbor guy, and I can't fathom. And we've been so lucky with neighbors over. But I can't fath. I've had a bad neighbor, like, once back in Boston, and it me up so much. I can't have it. I can't have it. Yeah, like. Like this guy who was a Russian guy who lived underneath me. I lived in Brookline, and he was an engineer, and from Russia. And so every day. And he had this really hot wife who used to flirt with me. And every day he would have. He would carpool with these other Russian guys, and they'd pull up out front, and I'm a comedian. I'm going to bed at 2, 3 in the morning.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

They'd show up at 7am and they park up front and they would honk the horn. It's a very Russian thing to do, you know? And so I spoke to him about not doing it, and he just fucking blew me off.

[Rob Corddry]

And.

[Fitz]

And then. So then one morning, they pulled up and they honked, and I threw three eggs at the windshield of the car, and they started yelling at me and yelling at me.

[Rob Corddry]

Russian guys.

[Fitz]

They never did it again.

[Rob Corddry]

Fuck with Russians. But okay, it worked.

[Fitz]

It was not a good move, but I got away with it.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, yeah. I don't fuck with Russians.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. That's scary.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. We've had really good luck. We have better luck now. Like, we've got a pretty good pocket of neighbors. And these. These old people that. They're still living there. They're. They're perfectly nice, you know? I mean, Sandy, of course, she never forgets, never forgives, never forgets. And so there's always that little.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Voice in the back of her head going like, that fence was $2,000 to take down.

[Fitz]

That would. That would really get me. That would get me. But they are.

[Rob Corddry]

They're sweet. They're just old people. And.

[Fitz]

Yeah. No, that can be charming. The. The old. The old curmudgeonly couple can be fun.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

I want to ask you about. You've. I just. Again, I went to IMDb as well. I mean.

[Rob Corddry]

All right.

[Fitz]

Does Jason Ellis write a script and put together research the way I do when you do his podcast?

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, everybody does. Everybody does. Yeah. Gonna go to LinkedIn. I'm not on there.

[Fitz]

You have a new show, and I don't even know how new it is. If it's out, I'm racing home to watch it. When I saw the cast called the odat. Is that out?

[Rob Corddry]

No. Oh, no.

[Fitz]

It's got Zach Galifianakis in it, and it's written by Jonathan Glatzer.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

The guy who did Succession. Better Call Saul.

[Rob Corddry]

Better Call Saul.

[Fitz]

That's insane.

[Rob Corddry]

Same.

[Fitz]

This show must be amazing.

[Rob Corddry]

It's good.

[Fitz]

Really.

[Rob Corddry]

And I've. I've never said that about something. I've. I've always had questions about whether I'm just fooling myself into thinking it's good, but this is Just objectively good.

[Fitz]

Really?

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. Yep, Yep, yep, yep. It's great.

[Fitz]

Filmed it up in Vancouver.

[Rob Corddry]

Filmed it in Vancouver all summer, and it was. Yeah, it was all summer, basically. It was great.

[Fitz]

And what makes Jonathan, who he is in working with him?

[Rob Corddry]

Boy, that's a great question. He's a really funny guy. Like most of us that are. That are in comedy or in writing, in show business and not Irish can be awkward. He. You can see him fighting it. He fights it. Yeah. He's a good man. And he's just the sweetest guy in the world.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

He's. He's really just this. But what. But are you asking me what makes.

[Fitz]

Yeah. Like, if you were to, like, extrapolate, what. What is the common denominator between these shows? Like, what is it? Because he's just.

[Rob Corddry]

He's really, really smart.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

You know, I don't know what his. The first thing he ever wrote on was, but. But I bet you if we looked it up and watched it, you could see, like, moments of brilliance in there. Like, he just knows how to turn a phrase.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

You know, right. Some of these guys have that sort of thing, like, you know, what's his face that did that? White House, the West Wing, Aaron Sorkin. Aaron Sorkin. You know, like, they're just. They good at story and dialogue.

[Fitz]

Well, it's kind of like what we were talking about with Chappelle. Like that line from Succession. You're not serious people like that landed like a anvil.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

And, like, that's what makes performance great. When you have a line like that to work with.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, my God. Can you imagine being given that line?

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

You are not serious people about your children. Yeah, yeah. And.

[Fitz]

And that.

[Rob Corddry]

That was towards the end. Right. So. And he's basically summing up what everybody's been thinking.

[Fitz]

Yeah, exactly.

[Rob Corddry]

We thought maybe Shiv was serious for a while, but she's not serious.

[Fitz]

Yeah. And the first. The first half a season, you think that the. The. The. The autistic brother. Yeah. Is serious.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. And then Karen Culkin's like, oh, maybe.

[Fitz]

He is growing up.

[Rob Corddry]

No, he's not. No, he isn't.

[Fitz]

Yeah. Yeah. But you wonder, like, if with a guy like that, you wonder how far out he's mapping the storylines for the series.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, they're writing now.

[Fitz]

But it. But is he thinking in season one, when he's writing scripts of season one, is he thinking about things that'll pay off?

[Rob Corddry]

Yes, he's already told me. Oh, I don't know about season. He's told Me, ideas for season two.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

And just, you know, basic ideas. And he admits he's like, these might not work, but this is what I've been thinking, as you know, before we even shot season one. But there. And there's, like. I don't know. I think there's only, like, a handful of other writers on the Audacity that were contributing, like, in a room, and they were all kind of heavy hitters. I forget what they've done.

[Fitz]

But it's also. TV is like, film is a director's medium, and TV is a writer's medium. So did you feel like he was hands on with the directing as well?

[Rob Corddry]

No, he was writing.

[Fitz]

He wasn't on set.

[Rob Corddry]

He was writing until the very end, when all the scripts were written. He was writing, and more so than any other show I've done. We were working on, you know, how different scripts have versions. So you'll get the white one or shooting draft is first, and then comes the white draft, and then comes pink and blue, and it goes all the way up to, like, buff and goldenrod. And. And we were working on, like, triple. Triple goldenrod.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

You know, and so they were. They were always in it, so. No, he just hired directors that he really trusted and let them do it.

[Fitz]

And. Had you worked with Zach before?

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I've worked with Zach a couple times. We did this movie that no one has seen, not even my dad, and I don't even remember what it was called.

[Fitz]

Get out of here.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, because they changed the name.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

From what. What it was when we were shooting. So. So it's. But it's really. I love it. It's, like, about a bunch of assassins. And. And he was great, man. He's such a good actor.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

You know, and we were. When. When it was just he and I, because we had a lot of scenes together, we'd be like. He was like, you know, this. This is so much easier than comedy. And I was like, yeah, yeah, it's great. It's great. He's like, I don't even know why we did comedy. This is so much easier.

[Fitz]

Yeah, that's funny.

[Rob Corddry]

And you don't realize till you're in it, like, you're in a drama. How. How. How You've been swinging three bats in the batter's box for years and you're stepping up to the plate finally with one.

[Fitz]

It's great because with comedy, you have to carry the drama, and then you got to add the timing.

[Rob Corddry]

And there's. There's. There's 10 different ways to time a joke, you know, and ratcheting up the character more.

[Fitz]

Wow. Yeah, that's interesting.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. So, yeah, he was. He was great to have him there. And there was a lot of good people in that.

[Fitz]

A lot of cute girls on it. I noticed.

[Rob Corddry]

I didn't notice. My wife listens to this podcast.

[Fitz]

You did Shakespeare?

[Rob Corddry]

Sure.

[Fitz]

How. How did you access that barrier in.

[Rob Corddry]

Language and make it feel organic as a English major? I was an English major first in college, and then I got into the theater department as well. So I was a double major, and I decided to focus my English major on British drama. Strictly, like, modern, ancient, old, you know, like. And it was a lot of Shakespeare, so I was reading it all the time, and I liked it. I appreciated the stories once I got once. See, the thing about Shakespeare is he says things five or six times because, you know, back in his day, he was. He was playing. They were playing to rabble, you know, these, like, guys that were just talking, having a conversation, and drinking mead. And every once in a while, they look up at the stage and then they'd catch the point because he's already made it five times. Like, you know, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So a lot of, like, Shakespeare is cut these days. Like, that's the stuff that you. That you cut.

[Fitz]

I think I remember hearing that the. What was the famous theater that Shakespeare struck down? Ava or the Globe and that the. Yeah, the riff raff sat in the front.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

And then if you had money, you sat up in the boxes.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right.

[Fitz]

So that's who you're playing to.

[Rob Corddry]

You're playing to the criminals, basically.

[Fitz]

Hilarious. But no, I was an English major in college, and I took every Shakespeare course that was offered.

[Rob Corddry]

So did you pen it? Did it. Did it get in there? Did you. Did you, like, get around it? Yeah, yeah. So you know what I mean?

[Fitz]

Yeah. You find the rhythm of it.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

And also, you got the left. You got the left page, you know.

[Rob Corddry]

Sure.

[Fitz]

There was always. The right page was the play, and.

[Rob Corddry]

The left side was the lot of margins. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fitz]

And then once you crack that. And I had this amazing teacher who taught a lot of those classes, Professor Simone Shout Out. This dude would get on his Death on his desk and do soliloquies. He was into it. He was so passionate about it.

[Rob Corddry]

That's the best.

[Fitz]

Yeah. And then I was in New York. We'd go see Shakespeare in the park all the time, which is, there's no.

[Rob Corddry]

Better way I still want to do that.

[Fitz]

Oh, my God.

[Rob Corddry]

That's probably the only theater I'd. I have any interest in doing anymore.

[Fitz]

Oh, you want to perform there?

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

Oh, yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

I mean, I've seen it a bunch. It was. And it's always great.

[Fitz]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Impossible to get into anymore.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, to get into a show, you.

[Fitz]

Gotta show up at like, 6:30 in the morning and get online and.

[Rob Corddry]

God, I haven't been there in so long. Back to New York.

[Fitz]

All right.

[Rob Corddry]

I don't know.

[Fitz]

All right, let's do fastballs with Fitz.

[Rob Corddry]

Okay. Watch this, watch this.

[Fitz]

You have to do it in Shakespearean answers, though. All right. Have you ever been arrested?

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. Yes.

[Fitz]

I'm asking a Boston guy if he's ever been arrested. Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. But I almost did it on purpose. Like, I was in college really drunk and. And I guess acting belligerently, and the cops sat me down on the curb, you know, like they do. And. And I was not playing ball.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Because I wanted to get arrested. I wanted to get the experience. And I was like, singing in my cell. My friends came. I didn't have a cup, but I was like, with my knuckles. And my friends bailed me out, and I was like, no, thanks, I'm gonna stay the night. Because I wanted to get a rain the next day. Yeah. Yeah. That was wild. Getting like, you know, trucked in a van up to the next town over.

[Fitz]

To the cuffs On.

[Rob Corddry]

I don't remember if I had cuffs on. I don't think I did. I don't think I did.

[Fitz]

And then who bailed? Who bailed you out after arraignment? Did they set a bail or they let you go on your own?

[Rob Corddry]

They let me go after the arraignment, yeah. Okay. Yeah. But, yeah, no, it was these friends, these theater friends, and they were so disappointed in me. They were like, how did. Why. Why would you ever. Like, they were so shocked.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

This side of. This Irish, Boston side of me. And I was like. I was like. I had to speak their language. And I was like, I just wanted the experience. I think it was very valuable. And they were like, oh, okay. Yeah, I see that. I see that.

[Fitz]

That's great.

[Rob Corddry]

I see that.

[Fitz]

Yeah. That's good. Who's your best Asian friend?

[Rob Corddry]

My best Asian friend, I would say Edith Sue Chen. She lives in New York. She is the planner. New York City planner. She's like this. The early planner.

[Fitz]

Yeah. No kidding?

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

That's like.

[Rob Corddry]

That's like, pretty good one, right?

[Fitz]

Well, that's. What's his name? Had that job. Who's the guy that ran New York all those years?

[Rob Corddry]

Abe Beam?

[Fitz]

No, it's the beach. You know the beach out past Jones Beach? Robert.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, I know who you're talking about. The guy that did put all the bridges and tunnels, put like the BQE in there.

[Fitz]

Robert Moses.

[Rob Corddry]

Robert.

[Fitz]

That was his job. And there's a. That's. It's. They say it's like one of the most powerful jobs in the city.

[Rob Corddry]

It's amazing.

[Fitz]

You control the purse strings on where the money gets.

[Rob Corddry]

It's amazing. And she's so brilliant, and she, like, she. She was deputy city planner forever until like, two mayors ago she was promoted city planner. And now she's, as far as I know, still there. I don't know about the new administration.

[Fitz]

Well, if she can't get you in Shakespeare in the Park, I don't know who can.

[Rob Corddry]

Right. You know, she was gonna get me up to the top of the Chrysler Building. Like the place that people can't go. Yeah, yeah, she loves that. I'm so nerdy about New York.

[Fitz]

Yeah. If you ever want to know about, read that book. It's a monster. It's a big book, but I've read it twice.

[Rob Corddry]

It's been in my hands. I don't know.

[Fitz]

It is the best, really, historical nonfiction I've ever read in my life. Really? And that's all I read. Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Historical non. Fiction.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Far out. I've just started getting into that.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

It's amazing. I mean, this guy, he lasted from FDR all the way through the.

[Rob Corddry]

Through the 60s.

[Fitz]

And he was like, he. He controlled Tammany Hall. Couldn't get him under their control. None of the big mayors get him under their control. He. He was so powerful. He figured out how to get all the money funneling through his. His department.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. Oh, it's so good.

[Fitz]

And so he held all the jobs.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, and he's the guy that tore down the Crystal palace, right? The old Penn Station.

[Fitz]

Right, right, right.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fitz]

He put in.

[Rob Corddry]

And he put in the Madison Square Garden and that shithole Penn Station.

[Fitz]

Yeah. And then he built, like, Triborough Bridge and the Long Island ExpressWay and the BQE and FDR, Frog's Neck and FDR, like, plus all the parks and. Yeah. What. Who would you want to play you in your biopic?

[Rob Corddry]

Well, I assume this would have to start. Be later, right?

[Fitz]

No, it could be now.

[Rob Corddry]

Could be right now.

[Fitz]

I mean, assuming you can't play yourself, which I don't think they can meet.

[Rob Corddry]

Your quote Dave Koechner's the. The easy answer.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

You know, because, I mean, but then again, you. You don't want. You don't necessarily need a guy that looks just like me. Just has to shave his head.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

In a really sexy pattern.

[Fitz]

But you guys also have that kind of. You have a similar sensibility.

[Rob Corddry]

We do. We do. We're. We're bigger than. We are small.

[Fitz]

Yes.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

Yes. Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

He's coming in a few weeks.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, he's a good guy. Tell him I said hi. We. We. We used to. I don't get it as much anymore, but we used to, like, text each other and. And be like, oh, hey, this guy I ran into today loves anchorman because he thought it was I was Dave. And same. He was like, yeah, some guy loved Hot Tub time machine.

[Fitz]

Yeah. Do you feel like you took roles from each other? Like, did.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, I'm sure.

[Fitz]

Yeah. I'm sure.

[Rob Corddry]

We were in the same, you know, bin. I'm in the same sandbox.

[Fitz]

Right.

[Rob Corddry]

In the same conversation and whatever. Casting office.

[Fitz]

I get that with the rock.

[Rob Corddry]

Sure.

[Fitz]

So sick of that. People. Like, I love you.

[Rob Corddry]

And especially since he, like, bulked up, right?

[Fitz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel he. We don't text each other, but, like, we'll see each other and he'll just look at my biceps and be like. Yep.

[Rob Corddry]

He just nods.

[Fitz]

Yep.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

What do you get? What's the tattoo you got on your arm?

[Rob Corddry]

Which one? This one?

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, that's a rose.

[Fitz]

Yeah. That's pretty nice.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. And this is a cardinal.

[Fitz]

Why a cardinal?

[Rob Corddry]

It was.

[Fitz]

My.

[Rob Corddry]

My sister passed away two years ago. That's the first time I've said passed away.

[Fitz]

Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Because I don't like saying passed away.

[Fitz]

Right.

[Rob Corddry]

I don't have to. I don't have to soften it for you. You didn't know my sister. She died. And what I did was I got this tattoo with the ink was. Some of her ashes were mixed into the ink. Yeah. So she's in me.

[Fitz]

Wow.

[Rob Corddry]

My sister's in me.

[Fitz]

That's amazing.

[Rob Corddry]

I told her, someday. Someday I will swallow you whole.

[Fitz]

And this is her blood. I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

I have a vial.

[Fitz]

Well, that's beautiful. I love that.

[Rob Corddry]

Yes.

[Fitz]

Nice. That. That means something.

[Rob Corddry]

And I just got that one the other day, too. Horseshoe.

[Fitz]

What's that?

[Rob Corddry]

A little horseshoe, Dad. I don't know. My wife got one, so I did, too. Means nothing.

[Fitz]

Me and my. My whole family got this one.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. Nice.

[Fitz]

The Irish harp.

[Rob Corddry]

I like it.

[Fitz]

My daughter wanted a tattoo since she was like 12. And I always knew she was going to sneak off and get it. So I said, look, if you wait till you're 18, yeah, the whole family will go out, we'll get the same tattoo.

[Rob Corddry]

We did the same thing. Really well, actually. It was like, actually kind of on a whim. We were down in Venice for. For my oldest birthday and we were just trucking around the shittiest part of Venice beach, you know, and, and there was this tattoo. We'd walk by one of those shitty tattoo monkey parlors maybe, and they were like. And, and they were like, hey, we should all get a tattoo. And I didn't get one out of solidarity because my 16 year old at the time wasn't old enough to.

[Fitz]

Okay.

[Rob Corddry]

But the guy that did these, all my tattoos basically, except for this is. He'll, he'll. He'll give her a tattoo. So we might go get something.

[Fitz]

Yeah, we got it on her 18th birthday. We all got it. She got hers here, my son got his there. My wife got hers there because she didn't really.

[Rob Corddry]

I like that one.

[Fitz]

But there. Yeah, there for the right people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Me and her love and her lovers. I go on the road.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

What TV role or film role would you most have liked to have gotten?

[Rob Corddry]

Jesus. All of them. All of them.

[Fitz]

Did you ever audition for one and went like, man, I fucking want this. And then it turned into something.

[Rob Corddry]

No, no, not really. I mean, I, I auditioned for like, what was it? 40 year old virgin and thought I, I killed it.

[Fitz]

For the lead?

[Rob Corddry]

No, no, no, no. For his boss at the store.

[Fitz]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

It was Jane Lynch.

[Fitz]

Right, right.

[Rob Corddry]

And so that always happens to me. I'll see someone, whoever did get cast, I'll be like, oh, well, that's. They went a different way, you know.

[Fitz]

Right.

[Rob Corddry]

So is there a role I would have liked to have played? I don't know. You know, I mean, this doesn't count. This is cheap because I want to say Hamlet because I've already aged out of Hamlet, so I would love to have played Hamlet in whatever. Pick a film. Hamlet film. Right in that.

[Fitz]

Right. Love it. All right, final question then. We're gonna let you go.

[Rob Corddry]

Okay, I'm ready.

[Fitz]

When's the last time you really apologized?

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, my God. I mean, probably this morning. I. No, it was last night. It was last night and it was an add thing. My poor fucking wife. It was stupid. This is a stupid story. But she was just like, tomorrow, because it's my youngest's birthday today, turning 17 and we do this thing in the morning. Like, she comes out and there's presents on the table, and we put funny signs on.

[Fitz]

Oh, yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

On the window. And. And she was like, your job is to order breakfast now. 8:45 is going to be too early. I need it there by nine. 9:30. 9:15 is perfect, but if you get it there by nine, that's fine. Like, too much information. And my medication had worn off hours ago, and so I was like, huh, huh. And I was doing a jigsaw puzzle at the time. So I was, like, more into that. And I was like, okay, so. So when. So 8:30. I just heard the first thing she said and she was like. And then she talks to me like I'm a child and says no. I said. And I was like, oh, fuck, I'm so sorry. I mean. And you can't really claim disability.

[Fitz]

Yeah, yeah. You know, I know. You know, there is a window, though. Like, I feel like I say to my wife, business is conducted between 10am and 4pm yeah. Don't give me heavy stuff after. I just can't.

[Rob Corddry]

That's smart.

[Fitz]

But I think the key is being married to an ADHD person is you really have to know their limitations and not. Not. Not judge them like they're a normal person.

[Rob Corddry]

See, my wife, she's. We were watching a show the other day and.

[Fitz]

And.

[Rob Corddry]

And somebody had adhd and. Or I don't even know what the context was, but the. Their partner found it endearing. And I looked at Sandy and she was like, that's interesting. I was like, right. Isn't that interesting? Try it on, maybe. Maybe give it a spin around the block. See if you like it. Because fucking condescension is not working for me. There's such pressure to hear every word she says. And like I said at the very beginning, she gives a lot of information, man.

[Fitz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rob Corddry]

Oh, boy.

[Fitz]

Right.

[Rob Corddry]

All right, listen, I'm a disappointment to her.

[Fitz]

Rob Cordry, always a delight. You have a show that's coming out. When is Audacity coming out?

[Rob Corddry]

I think in March. I don't know if there's a set date.

[Fitz]

Yeah, March. Yeah. All right.

[Rob Corddry]

On amc.

[Fitz]

Well, we'll give it a shout out when it comes out. Maybe we'll have Zach on before that.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

And talk about it. I just was at his house a couple weeks ago, and then also he was in this fool.

[Rob Corddry]

His house in Vancouver?

[Fitz]

No, the one on the east side.

[Rob Corddry]

Okay.

[Fitz]

So that's it, man.

[Rob Corddry]

That's it. I mean. I mean, how else do you. I mean, to be continuing.

[Fitz]

Yeah, let's do part. You've probably been on six times.

[Rob Corddry]

Seven at least.

[Fitz]

More than that. Maybe.

[Rob Corddry]

At least.

[Fitz]

Maybe 10 times.

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah.

[Fitz]

I mean, I've been doing this for 15 years, so I. You do it usually every year?

[Rob Corddry]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it wasn't 15 years ago, but it was close. Yeah. So I might. I might have double digits.

[Fitz]

Say hi to your brother. All right, thanks.

[Rob Corddry]

I can't wait to ask him about that. I. I probably already have and I forgot.

[Fitz]

Yeah, yeah. Limu Emu and Doug.

[Rob Corddry]

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[Fitz]

Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.

[Rob Corddry]

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[Fitz]

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[Rob Corddry]

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