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Lake Bell
Then there's Lake Superior. I always would retort with that when people threw me a Titicaca or an Aerie. Tell us a little bit what it was like to work with Dana Carvey. You're being by a thorn, you know, and you're like okay. You know, and you're just like, what? Okay, I'll add some spice to that
David Spade
give us a couple different versions of that. So Lake Bell. The lovely and talented Lake Bell. Who? Lake, starring right now in the Chair Company with Tim Robinson, which is just
Dana Carvey
an absurd, funny, brilliantly off kilter abstract.
David Spade
Right up my alley. Right up my alley.
Dana Carvey
Yeah. And yeah, we. We talk about her name. I mean, it's. It is a name. It is kind of the coolest name you could have in show business when it's not made up. Lake Bell.
David Spade
You definitely need a hooky name. That is a great short.
Dana Carvey
Yeah. Just four letters.
David Spade
Four letters. There's just something. It's like a movie jury duty. You know, just get like, boom, boom. And it helps. She's also been in. It's Complicated. She's in so many movies. She's sort of woven in where you just go, oh, right. She was in that one. She was. No Strings Attached. There's old movies, new movies, TV shows and animation. Director.
Dana Carvey
Oh, she was in Secret Life, Pets With Moi. And we talk all about that. And she's. What's interesting about her, I think, is she's got a whole lane of getting hired to do things and then she's just producing and. Or directing things constantly. And that's by design and very smart. Then you can kind.
David Spade
Of.
Dana Carvey
Show business is less emotionally violent when you just like doing your own work at the same time.
David Spade
Yeah. Any. Anytime. It's just waiting for the phone to ring is tough. That's the hardest part about show business. Anyway, here she is. Lovely person.
Dana Carvey
Lake Valent.
David Spade
Is that her?
Lake Bell
I am. Yeah, it's her.
David Spade
I don't have any idea what she looks like. Is that her?
Lake Bell
Oh, my God. No one.
Dana Carvey
She looks like. Well, it looks gorgeous. A.I.
David Spade
almost.
Lake Bell
And I do what I can. I. I can't believe this. I'm just so glad that this is working.
Dana Carvey
I. I am too. It's amazing. Wait.
Lake Bell
Soon as I heard. Here, let me put this here.
David Spade
I feel like there might be a compliment coming. So keep going.
Lake Bell
Wait, is this. Do I have these on?
Dana Carvey
Yes. Engineer.
David Spade
I think so. I know that you hate it. Everyone hates it. But I think it helps.
Lake Bell
Doesn't look cute.
David Spade
We had this hockey player on and he didn't have him. And we. And we. We couldn't talk over him because everything stopped. We have to wait for someone to talk, which. What you should do.
Dana Carvey
The hockey player's name was Wayne Gretzky.
Lake Bell
All right.
David Spade
I didn't even say that.
Dana Carvey
I'm not trying to flex. I don't want to get. I don't want to flex. I don't want to get handsy. I don't want to have these phrases exist. The latest one is slop. I hear it a lot. That's slop. Slop means just massive content. That is just slop. It's just people love to watch slopes.
Lake Bell
Seven is done. Did you know? Did you hear about that?
David Spade
Who's done six seven?
Lake Bell
No, no. You know, it's done. Oh, you didn't even. Were you not aware of six, seven?
David Spade
I was, but I'm glad it's over.
Dana Carvey
I heard. I heard the two numbers, but what was it about again?
David Spade
Heard of the two numbers.
Lake Bell
I heard the.
Dana Carvey
He's heard of when I was. No, I remember something like 67 was a code or something. What was it like?
Lake Bell
It was like a meme or something. And then somebody it at a. At a kind of sporting event of some sort. Because I also asked question to my children and I have teeny tiny children that are right in the 6, 7.
David Spade
Do they know about it?
Lake Bell
They. I hear about it all the damn time. It was a hot Christmas gift. Was a T shirt that said six, seven.
David Spade
Oh, no, no, no.
Lake Bell
But apparently the adult.
David Spade
Thank God it's over. It's over, right?
Lake Bell
It's over.
David Spade
Okay. I have. Oh, I was gonna say, like, because you're also a director. Do you.
Dana Carvey
Wait a minute. She's an author. People who don't know Lake Bell. Because I did kind of look you up a little bit, you know, Preparation. Author, writer, director, actor and voice actor.
David Spade
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Am I missing anything?
Lake Bell
I mean, I'm a mother, which is my.
David Spade
Oh, my. Well, like as a director. Wide on me. I feel like it's showing too much of my whole body.
Lake Bell
I do feel that we're getting a lot of the wires in the backdrop. You could punch in. Oh, that's five.
David Spade
You mean over here?
Lake Bell
Yeah.
David Spade
I've never seen those in my life. And you saw them in one.
Dana Carvey
Let's come around if we can for a two shot and then just.
Lake Bell
Yeah, let's just cross cover. Can we cross?
Dana Carvey
So what's your happiest place in your creative world is when you're writing your book Start.
Lake Bell
I guess we're doing it.
David Spade
We're doing it.
Dana Carvey
Well, no, we don't. We'll start and not start. There's. It's. We don't really know what we're doing yet. But is that kitchen real or is it like.
Lake Bell
Yeah, I'm in my office and it has a kitchenette. So there's a flag.
Dana Carvey
Somebody invested well.
David Spade
The rich get richer.
Dana Carvey
Whoops.
David Spade
Anything like this who lives there? Barely Bezos.
Dana Carvey
Okay, well, listen, his muscles live in the other room, and he lives in that.
Lake Bell
Guys, come on now. I. The kitchenette is great for making.
David Spade
If it has ETT on the end, that means it's not.
Dana Carvey
Kitchenette makes me happy. The word makes me happy. If you're checking in kind of a B level motel and there's that kitchenette just seems relaxing.
Lake Bell
I feel. I feel very relaxed and, and, and welcome. If there's a kitchenette guest room that's got a kitchenette, you're like, I've made it. Because. Yeah, it really gives you that access point to, you know, the world is your oyster. You could make a. You could make a tea, you could microwave a piece of toast.
David Spade
Yes. If I'm on the road, I go for residence inn kitchenette. And then you don't really leave as much because you go, I can kind of handle. Yeah, right here.
Dana Carvey
And you don't add event. Have you ever made an omelette in the kitchenette and just thought to yourself about the main. These are viewer questions about the main kitchen. As you're flipping the omelet, you know what the main kitchen.
Lake Bell
You know what's fun about that is that's where all the, like, funky mugs go. So I've got like a very. I love mug. And I like a funky mug. Like, you know, don't mess with Texas or like, you know, you go to like, I have a mug. A dentist gave me a mug once with like a big smile with braces on it. Like, what a mug. You know, and it's like, I like a good, like, you know, it's like you travel somewhere and you get a mug and I. Yeah, so all of the good funky mugs live in the kitchenette. The main kitchen, she's curated. She's got a real point of view. There's a visual, right. And that is where the funk.
David Spade
And you also don't want to mess up the main kitchen. So it's good to come do some dirty work in here.
Dana Carvey
So I just want to make a quick note, right. Rap song called Funky Mug. Okay.
Lake Bell
Yeah. Okay.
David Spade
Well, mugs, I have a great old. You know, my best mug is of all my goofy ones, Larry Sanders. It's all faded. I mean, why we got that must have been like a gift back.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
David Spade
I don't know.
Lake Bell
I love it because Mark Marin, he. He gives a mug. I'm just saying, you guys smart.
David Spade
We don't give jack.
Dana Carvey
I. I was on his show. I don't remember getting a mug oh,
David Spade
they just a special people.
Lake Bell
No, no. Got a mug. You have to, you have to. You have a bone to pick then, because those mugs are excellent. I, and I, I do ceramics. So like I've got mugs, I've got ceramics on top.
Dana Carvey
Ceramics too. And you write your automotive thing. I can't. Your resume made me tired. What are you doing? What do you take a nap every day?
Lake Bell
I mean, I do like to nap.
David Spade
Oh, listen to this. Like, that's interesting. When I was going through your extenuous resume. Is that a word? And it is now golden arm. And guess who? Well, we don't name drop on the show. Jon Hamm hit me out of the blue and I go, john, I'm looking at your goddamn name on this stupid IMDb. And he was so effusively positive about you.
Lake Bell
I.
David Spade
Nice.
Lake Bell
Yeah, he's, he's great. I think that is nice. That makes me feel good. I do think I'm generally like, nice.
David Spade
Yeah.
Lake Bell
As a person, I mean, would you,
David Spade
I've seen you out and about and you're always very friendly and very light
Dana Carvey
and I think I like the word agreeable. How is this person? They're, they're agreeable. You know, they're, they're easy.
Lake Bell
Yeah, Yeah, I would say that, I would say, would say.
David Spade
And she's a laugher. I think if I remember you, like.
Lake Bell
Yeah, I can, I will give a good laugh. Like, I, I feel like that is a quality that, especially within comedy, it's nice to have people around who also will give, give it, give a laugh.
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Dana Carvey
Yes.
David Spade
Yeah. Because if you're stiff and sometimes you just want to be the funny one, it's always nice when other funny people laugh.
Lake Bell
Yeah. Because, you know, when you're standing in like a group of comedy people and everyone's each other and they're being really fun and they've got a little, they've got a little, little turned up side grin. Because they're thinking, I'm gonna say the next funny thing. Ooh, I'm gonna tarpon school in my head. Oh, I'm listening to what he said. Okay, I'm gonna. And everyone's thinking, what am I gonna say next? You know? And it can be kind of like sweaty. I don't know.
Dana Carvey
You know, I don't like group shows. I, I, I do some dates with David. I don't know, teen comics in a green room. What could go wrong, you know?
David Spade
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
It's like a comedy competition and I, I don't like it. The guy who the man or woman on this podcast who Laughed the Hardest is kind of interesting. It was Larry David.
Lake Bell
I think I heard that episode. Yes. I was hearing that he was a great laugher. And I thought, I love Larry even more for that.
Dana Carvey
I know, he's so brilliant. And then he sort of like he curled up on a little ball and he was red faced and he fell out of his chair. It's very interesting. But, but our guest today is Lake Paul. Like Bell. Has any ever met another lake person? First name?
Lake Bell
Yeah. So it's interesting because when I was, when I was growing up, it was so bizarre. I mean people were the amount can't
David Spade
get their head around it.
Lake Bell
They could not. They were like, this is not okay with me.
David Spade
Whoa.
Lake Bell
What? You know, and I had a story I would tell people that my, you know, my parents were hippies and I
David Spade
was hippie for sure.
Lake Bell
Lived on a lake and they thought, oh, let's do it. And that was not at all the truth. I'm from Manhattan. My dad's like a Jew who eats about the fish. And my mom was like, you know, kind of read War and Peace while working at Sotheby's and was a model.
David Spade
You know, it's like the bees.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
David Spade
Lake is a cool one, but you have cool names for your kids.
Dana Carvey
It's like a movie star name. And you know, I mean it's, it's very memorable. It's really tight. And the word. The big L and the big B. Yeah, it just, it has a lot going on.
David Spade
Four letters. Four letters.
Lake Bell
Yeah, four letters. Four letters. Two nouns and. And then I think I saw it on a lot of like signage when I was a kid. I always wanted to be an actor, but I was like, oh, it's already up there. So we're halfway there.
David Spade
It works. It works up there in the big time.
Lake Bell
Yeah, Lake Titicaca, like, you know, that was.
Dana Carvey
Now we're talking like balls aplenty. Remember that one in Winnipeg?
Lake Bell
Oh, God, really?
David Spade
I don't. Winnipeg.
Dana Carvey
I just went off Titicaca, you're right.
Lake Bell
Yeah. Yeah. And then there's Lake Superior. I always would retort with that when people threw me with Titicaca or an Erie.
David Spade
Yeah, the Edmund Fitzgerald took place on a lake, I think.
Lake Bell
Yeah. I mean, listen, lakes are of great import. They're much more robust than a pond.
David Spade
No one's name Puddle is.
Dana Carvey
And they're rare in the western US
David Spade
as you were called Puddle.
Lake Bell
Yeah, my stepfather used to call me Puddle because he's like, one day maybe he'll Grow into a lake.
David Spade
Oh, that's cute.
Dana Carvey
That's cute.
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Dana Carvey
Should we talk about Secret Life of Pets and what happened? I mean, for a second we just. We worked on something together.
Lake Bell
Yes, it was fun. I mean, I.
David Spade
Were you together?
Lake Bell
No, we never recorded together.
David Spade
This really blows it for people. I think people want to know that all the minions are friends. And I think they want to know that all the people hang out because I did some and we did them in different days and I was like, oh, no, I kind of wanted to be together.
Lake Bell
Yeah, there's no, there's no. It's a lonely job in a way. But then you get thrown together in promotions. So you're recording these huge, like either TV shows or movies where they're these animated, like, larger than life characters and oh my God, the rapport must have been terrific. Ask you on the junket, they say, you know, was it so fun working together?
David Spade
You guys have a blast. The chemistry.
Dana Carvey
That's a perfect junket voice, what you just did.
Lake Bell
Tell us a little bit what it was like to work with Dana Carvey.
David Spade
You know, Dana must be non stop laughing. You're like, well, his booth was two doors down and four months after.
Dana Carvey
I don't know.
David Spade
I know one time on, on Hotel Transylvania, we did it. Oh, a couple people remember? I heard some applause.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
David Spade
But we, we did it all in the same room and.
Lake Bell
No, you didn't.
David Spade
They quickly found out it was a horrible idea. We were doing like scenes and we're all talking. It was Kevin, James and Adam, everybody. We're like, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we're just going through like scene after scene and then we go, we'll do some pickups. And we did everything again by ourselves.
Lake Bell
Well, by the way, then it goes back to the, like, green room. A bunch of comedians in a green room. You know, you wouldn't want to record an animated, you know, show that way because everyone, they're going, we're so funny.
Dana Carvey
Did you understand, David? Because when I was in the two, I wasn't quite sure what my character was doing. Yeah, I didn't Connect it to any. I didn't even understand. I just knew that was the line and they directed me. But I. You get kind of lost.
David Spade
Like you just came out of a cave and you're all wet. Yeah, that's what, that's what it's like. And then when we did that one, Emperor's New Groove, it went three years. I did it. And so at the end, I'm like, I don't even know what's going. They go, you can ad lib. I go, I don't know what the scene is. I don't. You're like, you're falling down. Yell, scream. I like when they go, right before you leave, let's get some ooze and a.
Lake Bell
That's the best.
David Spade
Someone step on your tail.
Lake Bell
The industry term is you ready? You remember? They're like, let's get some efforts.
David Spade
Oh, efforts.
Dana Carvey
When you're falling down a hole. This is just for people. I. I've probably been spoke about before, but it's an interesting thing about doing voiceover work. You're behind a glass, you're in a booth, you're seeing like 10 people in front of you and they're straight faced and serious. And you go all out with your take and there's a delay, so you're still looking at an oil painting. And then they. Then you see them like they're laughing.
David Spade
Three on zoom from France.
Dana Carvey
Just. You can't hear them.
Lake Bell
Silent laughing. And. And thumbs up.
David Spade
And you like that one. They go, one more and you go, yeah.
Lake Bell
It's so awkward. I mean, I do, I do port Poison Ivy on Harley Quinn for dc. It's like a.
Dana Carvey
That's right.
Lake Bell
Yeah. And they. That is all kind of improvis. Oh, look at him. He read the resin. Oh, notes.
Dana Carvey
Oh, yeah.
David Spade
We got.
Dana Carvey
If necessary. I didn't think we'd need him much with you. And it's working out beautifully. So tell me about your. That character on.
Lake Bell
Well, I just was gonna say like in there, they really like the improvisational vibes.
David Spade
Oh, okay.
Lake Bell
And of course you're alone. So. So you're. Sometimes I have the director read with me just so that I can. I don't know, you know, it's like you don't know how to improvise with nothing. Even though I've gotten really good at it. Where you just are like, I don't know. Can you give me an idea of where we are? And they're like, okay, so you're in Gotham and it's kind of like, is it sunny? Kind of like a brothel, but, like, they're all made of plants and like you're being by a thorn, you know, and you're like, okay. You know, and you're just like, what? Okay, I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll add some spice to that.
David Spade
Give us a couple different versions of that. Yeah, that's great. Look at your sleeves, though. What's going on?
Lake Bell
Yeah, so we've got.
Dana Carvey
That's a bit of a. Like.
David Spade
Don't worry about it.
Dana Carvey
It's like Plymouth Rock. I mean, sort of.
David Spade
It's called fashion, and I.
Dana Carvey
No, it's kind of a pilgrim village that's trying to make friends with Native American look. I don't know.
Lake Bell
Finesse.
David Spade
What color is it? If you had to guess what color. Yeah, Well, I think it's dark green.
Lake Bell
It's actually dark. It's navy with black, which is my favorite combo.
David Spade
God. More proof I'm colorblind.
Dana Carvey
Everyone says I'm arguing with black is your favorite color.
Lake Bell
Yeah. I love tension.
Dana Carvey
Don't hate my jean jacket.
Lake Bell
I love. I like what you got going on here.
Dana Carvey
It's hard doing this, right. We're all looking at ourselves. We're looking at our.
Lake Bell
I don't like it. I'm going to just. How do.
David Spade
I don't go off my.
Dana Carvey
It's impossible not to.
Lake Bell
I think on zoom. I know how to just go. And then I get rid of my face. And then. The problem is we're all actors. We're all looking at ourselves like, what do I look at? My face.
David Spade
I'm only looking at me the whole time.
Lake Bell
I know. I see you. I see you looking at you.
David Spade
I don't even know, like, Spade has
Dana Carvey
never looked at me or you.
David Spade
I don't even know what Dana looks like in real life.
Dana Carvey
Not sure who our guest is today.
Lake Bell
You've got a hair light. You've got a backlight. That's.
Dana Carvey
Yes.
David Spade
This is a new thing like that you should incorporate into your movies. You direct, because this was a happy accident. I like it. It was a light behind me because it was so black behind me. And then it kind of glows up, the hair. So I said, hey, they do that
Lake Bell
a lot with the ladies. They do, yeah. Hair light, they call it. But that you do that. So it's just like a little crest of, like.
David Spade
It's not bad.
Lake Bell
Yeah, it's pretty. It's. It's quite elegant.
David Spade
Is mine poured on a little hard back there, but I don't know. Maybe it could go down.
Lake Bell
It's A. It's a. It's a. It's a little celestial. It's a little angelic, but I. I like it.
Dana Carvey
It feels like they could kind of fly away. I mean, there's a sense that, like, they're.
David Spade
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Some of these.
David Spade
These are friends.
Lake Bell
I think it's very French, right?
David Spade
It's a one way street. Once they jump out, they're not coming back.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
David Spade
Can you go hairs? I've got a bit of a mully going on.
Dana Carvey
Do you, like. Do you have a team if you go to an award show or something?
David Spade
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Do you have a team about it? Oh, you have a good team.
Lake Bell
Oh, honeys. Girls, girls.
Dana Carvey
Oh, please.
Lake Bell
Girls. You have no idea what kind of team. I have one of the greatest teams.
David Spade
No, I do good hair, though.
Dana Carvey
You have to.
Lake Bell
I did my hair today. I'll be honest. For you. For you, gentlemen.
Dana Carvey
It's great.
Lake Bell
Thank you. But no, I do. I do a team, but I have to be honest with you. Going to. When someone goes, hey, can you. Like, for instance, Golden Globes are coming up and.
Dana Carvey
Yeah.
Lake Bell
Oh, you know, you're gonna go to the thing on Friday or whatever, you know, And I. The amount of. Of just pomp and circumstance that I need to go. Go through just to get to the freaking party, I'm like, I don't even know if I can afford to go to that party because Makeup, styling, car, you know, because can't just. You gentlemen can throw on a key.
David Spade
Sometimes you're like, who do I bring? Is it by myself?
Lake Bell
Yes. I go alone a lot. I actually go alone. I kind of been enjoying rolling up
David Spade
because you run around so much. Usually just go to someone for bass. You're, like, both talking to people. You come back, say, hi, hey, what's going on? Then you go, oh, you have to both know different people. Yeah. But if you don't, it feels weird sometimes to be constantly in motion.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Hey, hey, hey, Lake Bill. Nice to see you. What's up? You have 10 seconds to make a connection. Hey, Lake Bill. How you doing, man?
David Spade
Everyone calls her Lake Bell.
Dana Carvey
Hey, hey, hey. It's Ms. Bell. How are you? I have three seconds. What's up? Let's have a profound moment.
Lake Bell
I mean, I've seen. You know, I recently went to a thing at, like, the Chateau or something, and I saw a fellow person who was going through an. I. I have an early problem, so I get places way too early.
David Spade
Good.
Lake Bell
And, like, I was early for this podcast and.
Dana Carvey
Yeah.
Lake Bell
And I have an ex boyfriend who actually told me that you know, who was like, you're too hot to. To show up this early. Like, you have to be very late. You have to, like, get. It's not okay. And I thought that was very sweet,
David Spade
but that is true. But I do like people that just get things going because it's so hard to be cool and wait. It's so hard.
Lake Bell
I don't. Guys, I'm just. It's like, I. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's like, because I don't have adhd because my daughter does and my son does, but I just can't. I get there way too early because I'm nervous I'm going to be late. So I. So it's probably people pleasy, I guess. I don't know.
Dana Carvey
It could be tactical. Like, I like to get there early so that I can leave early and go, hey, I was.
Lake Bell
Hey.
David Spade
That's true.
Lake Bell
You know what? Yes.
David Spade
Where you can kind of see people come in and it's not as overwhelming as walking to a packed place. It's bumper to bumper and you're like, I can't even guess.
Lake Bell
You know what?
David Spade
I can't get. But I will say I like this, this Golden Globes thing because first of all, if you go to a party for, let's say it's the Golden Globes now, a party is almost as bad as an effort, as a look for going to the Golden Globes. It's pretty much around the same budget, around the same everything. Now, if you go to a party, you have to think, am I going to go to a party Friday? A party Saturday and Sunday after the show. So three looks for a female, Right?
Lake Bell
Whoa.
David Spade
Do you do your hair three times? Yes. Is there anything you save on the.
Lake Bell
There's no saving. Okay. The only thing I would say is that I style myself right now. So that has been kind of groovy because it's like an art form, right?
Dana Carvey
Like, yeah.
Lake Bell
Like, I'm a visual person. I enjoy this. So, like, I'll give it a go. And I buy the only. The only. The only thing I. I splurge on is like, I, you know, I get. That's secondhand. So I like buying consignment.
David Spade
Oh, cool. Yeah.
Lake Bell
And vintage. I just. It's like fun. It's like finding.
Dana Carvey
Yeah.
Lake Bell
In a. You know, it's like I watch those guys with the metal detectors who, like, look in dirt and find things. Like, I. I can watch.
David Spade
Find your dress.
Lake Bell
Yeah. So that's similar.
Dana Carvey
It's scratching a Similar itch, you know, inside baseball. But I'd not been. I don't go to a lot of award shows, but the last time I was at the Oscars. Whoops. You walk out in the red carpet just for people listening, and then you stand there, and then there's a wall of people screaming. I mean, they're waiting for Timothy Chalamet or, you know, Jody Foster or something, and there's this wall of people screaming at you. Do you pivot and kind of smile? And they're going like.
David Spade
Like.
Dana Carvey
Like screaming. Like just. Just a. And you pivot. Do you have a face that you put on? Can we see it?
Lake Bell
I do that. I do this.
David Spade
Okay, good.
Dana Carvey
Okay, here it is.
David Spade
Off. Earphones. Off.
Dana Carvey
Lake. Lake Bell. Here, here, here.
David Spade
I like this pleated pants outfit.
Dana Carvey
Oh, here, over here, over here.
Lake Bell
Part. You're not supposed to see this part.
David Spade
Are those purple? I'm not even going to guess.
Lake Bell
No, no, they're. They're another shade of.
Dana Carvey
You know, what's cool about you is that you don't. You don't.
Lake Bell
You.
Dana Carvey
You don't. You're not sweaty. You don't seem to try. You don't seem to care about being a star. I mean, you. You're one of those celebrities that just sort of. If there's a coolness factor to that, you're not needy. Are you kind of thirsty?
Lake Bell
I just want to make. I think of like a working actor. Like, I feel it.
David Spade
Like.
Lake Bell
You know what I mean? Like, I go on the subway. Like, I go to the grocery store. I don't feel.
Dana Carvey
That's what. How I see you. And also you write and direct and do all the other things, but a lot of people live or die by this. How their heat as a celebrity, it's like a really huge deal. You don't seem to. Doesn't bother you.
Lake Bell
It doesn't. And also I have two little kids, right. So, yeah, a mom and I. To boot. I have kids that have had some heavy happen.
Dana Carvey
We. We know about your book. And I thought it was. I read some of the. The quotes and they. They teared me up. It's like the way you couch seizures was so beautiful. I mean, you're a great writer.
Lake Bell
Thank you. I. I think that the context of that has always, you know.
Dana Carvey
Yeah.
Lake Bell
I've had kids now for 10 years, so it's like all of it. Even when I'm directing and they're like, we lost a location. Oh, my God, we're freaking out. You know, it's gonna be, you know, everyone's the actor is gonna be so that we can't. Oh, my God, I don't know what to say. And I'm just like, this is a cool job. Like, I've seen. I've held both of my children in different states of are they dying or not? You know, and so I think contextually, I'm like, we're going to find another location.
David Spade
Yeah, we're going to be fine.
Dana Carvey
It's a movie, you know, it does
David Spade
put it in perspective when you go, there are a lot worse problems right now. I wish everyone wouldn't freak out so hard because we're wasting.
Lake Bell
Freak out also for all the time that we just freaked out about that. We could have been like, you know, like, let's see what's across the street. Let's see. Can we talk to. Let's talk.
David Spade
And it's funny. They always figure it out.
Lake Bell
They all. You always figure it out.
David Spade
So I'm like, you see the movie, you don't see a fucking blip.
Lake Bell
No. And frankly, just if we're talking inside baseball about directing for a second, it's like oftentimes there are moments where, okay, you did lose that location and then whatever for. Or like we have to reshoot this scene because of ba ba ba. And you're to going, going, oh, my God. I can't think of a worse piece of information for my editor right now. But whatever it is, it always ends up kind of exactly as it should be. It's. It's always great, you know, especially when you have to revisit something or you
David Spade
get a new location and then you just make it work. And then no one's the wiser that sees the movie and they go, I don't really care about that stuff. Is the movie working?
Lake Bell
But also in life like now with parenting and shit like that, you're just like, well, you know, a lot of the times we come up against moments where it's not as you planned, it's not how you thought it was gonna be. This person kind of did this and you thought they were gonna do that. All those expectations are what get in the way of it. If you could just kind of sort of adapt and adjust. I mean, that's the. That's what I'm always trying to, you know, sort of teach to my children, too. The adapt is such great.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, just roll, roll with stuff. Okay, now we'll deal with this and then this and really think of life as a kind of a series problems, in a sense.
David Spade
You know, it's hard to Watch. Kids get so much anxiety also, because you go, God, this is your worst thing. And it's really nothing in the big picture, but to this point in your life, like high school especially, is very hard.
Lake Bell
Yes.
David Spade
And you go, I wish I could talk you down. Just to say you won't really remember almost any of this. Problems.
Dana Carvey
Well, young people. Young people are nostalgic for the analog world. I. I hear this a lot. And they'll watch Grey's Anatomy like crazy because they. They don't have iPhones. They don't have Instagram, they don't have. So the toxicity of that and now you raising your young people through this is a whole other set of challenges.
Lake Bell
I have a. It's funny, I went and got. Just talking about nostalgia. So I don't know if you guys go to Vidiot, which is a really cool art house theater in Los Angeles and also a nonprofit that does that, kind of preserves DVDs and VHS tapes. I go and take my kids to go rent DVDs and.
Dana Carvey
Oh, cool.
Lake Bell
I then bought myself, you know, for the house, a little combo, a TV and dvd.
David Spade
DVD player. Oh, wow.
Dana Carvey
Right. You plug it right in. You see, this is the device it's on. There's right in.
David Spade
Those are already gone. It's crazy.
Lake Bell
Yeah. And the idea of not scrolling. What are we gonna watch? I don't know. I've already seen that.
Dana Carvey
Like, this is it.
David Spade
This is what?
Lake Bell
We're watching it. We're putting it in and then choice called Deborah. And so I'm like, you have to be very delicate with Deborah. And so you press the button on. You wait. Now press eject and wait. You know, there's a lot of waiting. Put it in, press it. You know, it's like everything is so consistent.
David Spade
We don't push it. It kind of pulls it from your hand. If you go really lightly, it kind of sucks it in.
Dana Carvey
I think it's.
Lake Bell
It's.
Dana Carvey
It's great. We at one point only had a Blu Ray player when we moved up to this house. And. And we just quickly bought 10 Blu Rays. And so I guess we're going to watch the Godfather. And. And then you're. You're committed to the movie. And it really is. When you're on live streaming and watching all these shows, you're like, I don't know, you feeling this? Okay. And then, boom, you're gone. You're out.
Lake Bell
Yeah, it's. What is that? It is actually feeding our short attention span. And it's just like.
Dana Carvey
Yes.
Lake Bell
Feel like it's like it's. It's actually flexing and. And it's flexing a muscle that we shouldn't, which is to just bail, you know?
Dana Carvey
Yeah.
Lake Bell
Adaptation and being adaptive.
Dana Carvey
It's like, let's talk about the chair company. A perfect introduction to that. Which. My wife and I watched the first two episodes last night. Oh, you did? And she did not have to watch the second episode unless she wanted to. And so we both fell in love with it. It's so the reason we loved it and it didn't make us wander is because it. It's full of so many surprises. It's Tim Robinson in full quirk and you and others. And so it keeps going places you don't expect. So I think it's great. And it's been picked up for season two. I heard season. So you're in a hit.
Lake Bell
I will say that I'm not really in the first episodes. I'm kind of like, you know, it all unfurls. So.
Dana Carvey
Yes, that's what I. Shut up, Barb.
Lake Bell
Exactly.
Dana Carvey
Yeah.
David Spade
He yells up the stairs like, oh, my God.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, shut up, Barb.
David Spade
You know, he's so bananas. Everyone acts like it's normal. Okay, cool.
Lake Bell
Yeah. That's the thing is, I think being a straight man, you know, straight woman to his really just chaotic, wonderful, misanthropic, curmudgeonly tornado of a character.
David Spade
So stressed.
Lake Bell
So stressed. And like shooting with him. He's not like that at all. I don't know if you know him personally.
David Spade
I don't know him at all.
Dana Carvey
I assume he's not.
Lake Bell
Oh, you never know.
Dana Carvey
He was on SNL for a while and wrote funny.
David Spade
Classically. Did not use him. Right. Or something. Something. Because look at all this he's done. It's so.
Dana Carvey
But the people's reaction to his character and you being one of them is, you know, the laugh is often on someone processing madness that we don't get a chance to as just viewers from home, you know, like, so you've. You know, I can see how it's. I don't know where it's going, but, you know, I'm going to.
Lake Bell
I'm so excited, you know, for you to. To unfurl the other ones that. The fact that you're on number two. Have you seen any of the.
Dana Carvey
You finished number two.
Lake Bell
You finished number two. Okay. It gets. It goes not where you think ever. And I think what I love about the show and being a part of it is that it is unique in its tone.
Dana Carvey
Yes. And it surprises you there's a piece in there which doesn't give away the plot or anything where he's driving with somebody and he does a satire basically about live streaming or just non performative people who make millions of dollars or something. It's sort of X rated rapping, but it wasn't rapping. They're just talking. You know the moment I'm talking about, like, that was really surprising. It was just a great moment to put that in there. And it was just really laugh out loud funny the way the guy reacted. Yeah.
Lake Bell
It's also like the, the, the camera work is so excellent. Ashley. The dp, like has such a. Well, also I give credit to Andy DeYoung as well. Well, just the director who did friendship. People have seen that. And it has such a. Sometimes almost like Lynchian. Like, you'll see, it's like it gets.
Dana Carvey
David lynch is brought up Mulholland Drive for some of the Reddit people talking about it. Yeah. Quirky. Quirky.
David Spade
Yeah. And when you. I don't know if it's up for best comedy, but when you see a comedy that you actually laugh at, which is honestly rare.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
David Spade
Well, we're all snobs. But when you laugh because it's not predictable and you're. And there's something out of the blue, throwaway lines right and left where you're like, oh my God, these kids were getting drunk with their teacher at the set. And you're like, with their teacher. Like, they just throw away stuff that's just so weird and, and no one mentions it.
Dana Carvey
You go, right. And it's like tiny little throwaways that
Lake Bell
you go, on my birthday. You know, like, that was a per. That's a perfect example of like, what.
David Spade
There's no reason why a random laugh and then everyone just keeps going. And you go.
Lake Bell
Because I, I've worked with HBO before and I've obviously a ton of comedies and that usually I feel like the, the, the, the flavor and the general kind of movement of comedic music is like clean, keep it clean and then bring it on back. And then, oh, you flub that line. Go again. You know, it's like faster, you know, cleaner, tighter. And with this, I really felt like I was in a different sheet of music. Like, I was not. Yeah, it was a different. It was like jazz riffing. Because there were moments where, you know, he might flub and I was like, oh, I see, they're gonna use that take.
David Spade
Yeah, they'll keep it. Cause it's real.
Lake Bell
Yeah, because it felt. And so the kind of awkward the
David Spade
tension of that and long pauses and weird things were. Normally they go, can you just tighten that up? We'll just got to keep it moving. And you're like, no,
Lake Bell
it looks like that. It's just.
Dana Carvey
You could strangle that comedy in a second with a different director.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Completely beat the shit out of it. And so I'm envious because I don't think I've ever been in that situation, but I know what you mean. And I think that the. The genius of Marlon Brando. What a weird reference. He tried to get it ad hoc. He tried to discover in the moment he didn't want to be locked in. He wanted. He'd have it on an orange or he'd peel it and get his line, whatever, to deconstruct the idea of it. And then obviously, when you're doing takes and you're discovering it real time, like you, Lake, are going, this is real for me right now. This is not like, I rehearsed does pop. And I can feel that. That's what I'm feeling when I'm watching the show, I guess.
Lake Bell
Yeah, we don't rehearse at all. So only if there was a stunt or something, you know, with. But. But even. I mean, we'll rehearse the stunt, but we'll never rehearse the lines like before,
Dana Carvey
you know, Clint Eastwood or Woody Allen, really, you know.
Lake Bell
Yeah, you just be in the moment and you'll say it for the first time then. And.
David Spade
And it makes people good because even on those Clint Eastwood movies, they say, when I come to the set, you know, I've had guys that do 15, 20 takes, so you're basically almost carrying your mini sides to the real shooting, going, well, I know we're not using the first eight.
Lake Bell
I know.
David Spade
And which is such a bummer because in comedy, you're like, sometimes things just happen. And now I've got to recreate them because of continuity. And I'm like, yeah, if you can just get rehearsal, even it's half the time. It's the funniest. That's the first time. It's. I agree, back and forth.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, shoot the rehearsal. Yeah, always shoot the rehearsal. Right. So don't even tell them. It's just on for you as a director. And then you're seeing this style or maybe you've seen it before. Does it influence you? Do you try to emulate it or do you do it yourself?
Lake Bell
Anyway, I'm really interested. I mean, I learned how to direct by being in the fucking trenches of a trillion different Sets and. Yeah, how people are. Are operating, but not just within, you know, the. Within the director's brain, but, you know, how they're relating to the rest of the departments, you know, and how actors are feeling, you know, with different things. Oh, that performance. Like, I can tell the way that act, the way that director just spoke to this actor, really got that great performance or actually botched it, like.
David Spade
Yeah.
Lake Bell
And so we. And also, obviously, as. As actors, we're kind of like, I know what I like and what I don't like, you know?
David Spade
Well, if you're tuning into that, which is different because most people are just worried about their lines and the actors are just doing it. If you're adding. I'm tuning into the director, not only talking to me, but how he's dealing with the dp, how he's dealing with the other departments. That's when you start to learn about directing. Because all that stuff is like, you're on blinders if you're an actor, and then you go, wait, what do you even do back here? And there's so much. So many things happen. Someone comes up with two pieces of carpet, this one or this one, he's like, that one. You're like, okay. And you go, oh, this is for a scene in three weeks they're working on. And there's storyboards. There's so many things to go over. Yeah, a lot of work.
Lake Bell
I think that also, you know, if you have access to access at all. For instance, when they say, okay, you can go to your trailer and we'll call you when you're ready. You know, it's like, you have the access to be like, oh, I'll go ahead and just get a chair, and I'll sit here and just get a tea.
David Spade
And I want to watch them flip it over to the other side and see how they do it, how fast they do it, who does what.
Dana Carvey
It is quite a rush, though, right? Like, when you have an idea about a scene and then you get the first rough cut of it, or I felt good, but you don't know. And you go, it's working, and this is great. You're bringing people into the edit bay. What do you think? They're laughing or saying, this is great. And so that's the rush of the. The hard work of director. So hard, but you work for that. That's the moment, right?
Lake Bell
Well, yeah, it's been interesting, like having the kids on sets and stuff, where they're looking at it and they're going, oh, my God, you know, I Have to explain this is a scene that will be for probably five seconds. All of these hundreds of people are here. We're all, we're. There's all of this work, all these trucks for these five, you know.
David Spade
Right. That's the funny thing. You got an eighth of a page one day when you go. And you go. It's still the same hair and makeup. Oh yeah, same everything. Everyone's coming to work, everyone's coming. And it's just to get a look, a reaction shot.
Lake Bell
An eighth of a page can also be like, you know, you know, she comes in, she takes her, you know, she makes a tea, she sits down and she calls her mother. Okay, fine, you know, and there's like three lines or something like that. And you're like, okay, I'm going to be in and out for this one.
David Spade
But you know, it's not hilariously true even. I remember those superhero movies, they said we do about a fourth of a page a day. They're like, the line is like the Batmobile tears through Gotham. And you're like, well, that's gonna take a while.
Lake Bell
That's a week.
David Spade
Yeah, There you go. The whole city. Yeah. So that's why little things like that, you're right. There's some where they'll go in a two shot and you're out of there and you don't even notice it. You're like, oh my God. We're just gonna stay on a two shot. That's great. And then some. You're like, I had no idea this would take four hours.
Lake Bell
I know. And I try to. I mean, I get people out, I move really quickly. Because I do think that in general I do favor people, you know, two shots and shots and things like that and like playing it in the wide and you know, get two cameras running and see what you.
Dana Carvey
Moving masters, they work.
David Spade
I mean, it's cool because it makes you pay attention. If you're the audience, you're like, oh yeah.
Lake Bell
And the actors love it. The actors love it. We love it when we can come in and just be with each other and exist in the space.
Dana Carvey
Oh, it's. If you ever have need someone in a movie that I could do anybody, I'll do a kid Italian waiter or something. But that, you know, when you watch old timey films, there's a lot of moving masters. There's a lot of two shots moving in and out. Of course, Woody Allen really adapted that. But old timey films to edit was like spooling 100,000ft of footage to do One little edit. So they really made sure that now it's in the. The last 20 years.
Lake Bell
I know. You know, I do like cross coverage for comedians though. Like we love that. We like to be able to play and if there's a happy accident that happens and someone says something fucking hilarious, we got it. And we have once to it.
David Spade
You know, it's like your real reaction.
Lake Bell
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
David Spade
I had someone do on a movie kind of Sabotage because I did my side and then when they did their side they changed their lines and did all these things in ad libbed and I was like, oh. So I have no reaction any of this. That's like a little dastardly move.
Lake Bell
It's really a bummer to be honest. I mean like I've been. You know, I did a sketch show recently and the. The budget was low and so it was like they couldn't do two cameras running, you know. And it was like, we're just doing a quick set. And I was like, ah, hey. Because it's. It's. You're really screwed kind of. Because a. Yeah.
Dana Carvey
I say to people, get. Get a crew of three, get like three actors together, do it on iPhones with maybe one sound person and just give yourself 12 days to shoot. You know, I mean, yeah, sometimes these things are so magnificently done and that. But there's no. They're there and you're flipping off immediately.
Lake Bell
Yeah. You know, I think that's why also, you know, with Chair Company it's like you're. There is kind of an economy to how. I mean, yes, we had like a full, full rig and everything, but there is an economy to the visual storytelling too. You know, it's like she's using zooms. You know, it's like you're out here, you're coming in. I mean that's just one shot, but it's doing a lot.
David Spade
You know, I thought that show would be a little more low budget only because it's just a funny guy to. And he was also on what it was called I Think youk Should Leave. And so you just go. I don't know what budget they're giving a guy who's just funny because I don't know, I mean sometimes they would spend on a big drama. Right?
Lake Bell
Sure.
David Spade
And so when you see these, they're like they'll come up with something, but it looks great. And I kept thinking, wow, there's a lot happening here. They're not just. It's not a cheap.
Lake Bell
Yeah, beautiful. It's the first show too. I was gonna say earlier that it's a first show where I'm. I noticed that in the scripts, like, when we're reading the scripts, I'm like, oh, this scene. This whole scene, this, like, page and a half, is purely for a joke.
David Spade
No. Or there's a lot of money for one joke.
Lake Bell
Yeah. In a series, it's usually like, yeah, but why is this paying off for the plot and, like, for this character to kind of, like, have an emotional arc and response in order to say something about the. No. It would be like, oh, we're just like. There was this one. I don't know if you've seen the flashback Christmas. And this is not giving away any. Anything too much if you haven't seen it. A lot of hand work here I'm doing. And the. There's a flashback to us at a Christmas party. It's my. My Christmas party. I used to be a lawyer. And they cast. There's just a moment where, like, Ron's talking of some guy at the party, you know, and he's going, hey, you know, get me out of here. And they cast an impersonator for Curly, like, from the Stooge. And I don't think he's ever done anything else except Curly. Yeah. And you'll note you'll see it now when you watch it. Okay.
Dana Carvey
So funny.
Lake Bell
And I remember coming to set and being like, is he doing a. And they're like, yeah, he's a Curly impersonator. Okay.
David Spade
I like some pa. Yeah, he's.
Lake Bell
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He just. He does Carly.
David Spade
Just casual.
Lake Bell
Casual. And. And then they would do. On set, they would have him do this. He was amazing. And him and Ron, him and. And Tim are talking, and it's basically him doing this kind of speech of bullshit. And he's chatting his ear off as Curly. And they would turn up the Curly. And then turned. He had this actor turn down the Curly. And when they turned down the Curly, it was almost like he couldn't even. He, like, couldn't find his line. You know, he was this poor guy because he's like, I do Curly. All right.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, don't. Just Curly. I don't. I don't do shades of Curly. Okay.
David Spade
Shakespeare.
Dana Carvey
I don't do depressed Curly. I don't do bored Curly. I do Curly Early.
Lake Bell
He was terrific. And you'll see in it, you really notice it's only for this bit. It's tiny flip, but, boy, is it good.
David Spade
But those texture things, even on snl, they'll have. They'll bring A donkey in, and it costs them five grand. And then they'll go, just for a cutaway. And you go, do we need the donkey?
Lake Bell
For sure.
David Spade
But Lauren doesn't even question it. He goes, no, I like it. And then they're like, go find one. And I'm like, oh, because it's so easy to cut it. They go, that would save us so much.
Lake Bell
$5,000. We should be in the donkey business.
David Spade
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
20 years from now. And you'll see the donkey, and you'll, like, be really, really happy that you know it.
David Spade
Like, when they show, like, the cold opening and then Lauren comes out, and he's, like, talking backstage during the monologue. And behind him, there's, like, Roman emperors and three donkeys. And I never knew that they weren't in the show. It was just like, this is going to be the show. And you're like, oh, that's gonna be a funny sketch. But he goes, I need, like, an Egyptian backstage. And then just all these weird things. People dressed in feathers. And then it's never a sketch.
Lake Bell
Yeah, it's texture.
David Spade
Yeah, it's texture. And it's so funny, and it's perfect, and it needs.
Dana Carvey
When I figured it out when I
David Spade
was on snl, I go, oh, those aren't even in the show. I'm so dumb.
Dana Carvey
Hey, Sal. Hank. What's going on? We haven't worked a case in years. I just bought my car at Carvana, and it was so easy. Too easy.
David Spade
Think something's up?
Dana Carvey
You tell me. They got thousands of options, found a great car at a great price, and it got delivered the next day. It sounds like Carvana just makes it easy to buy your car, Hank. Yeah, you're right. Case closed.
Lake Bell
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Dana Carvey
your language learning journey when you do SNL. Now, I don't know if I told you you were there doing Hunter Biden that Lauren is now at home base when the show starts and you come out and kind of shake hands or hug him or whatever, you know, let's
David Spade
get this one fist bump.
Dana Carvey
And normally you kind of would go behind the slats and then. But I was dressed as Joe Biden. So I had the gray wig, I had the whole thing on. I'd go out and I'd shake hands with Lauren and then to make myself laugh, I would do a side thing as fast as I could with tons of energy like jumping and Skipping over to behind the thing just to make myself laugh that they're seeing Biden going
David Spade
act nuts before he comes out. Like this.
Dana Carvey
People said. But anyway. No. Oh, that's the. That's the poem. And guess what, by the way, the fact of the matter is, I'm being serious right now. I'm not kidding around. Get your facts straight, Jack. That's it.
Lake Bell
My cheeks hurt. I'm really happy that, like, tell us
David Spade
that you're in cars or not.
Dana Carvey
We're easy wind up dolls.
David Spade
I know we're winding up late because she's a good laugher.
Lake Bell
Well, that was really special. I feel like I just got, like a little.
David Spade
You just got a private show.
Dana Carvey
Oh, good. It's a fun song.
Lake Bell
I know. That was a beautiful song. You're a great Biden singer. And, you know, I was at the 50th, and that was a special show, too, and I. I had never, you know, I hadn't been to the show in a while, and it was like, you know, I hadn't sat in the audience, you know, and really magic to have a little.
Dana Carvey
It's wild.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Who stole the show?
Lake Bell
What?
Dana Carvey
Guess who stole the 50th? Well, with David's line for the writers was their favorite line of the night when he was in the bleachers going,
David Spade
oh, I got a feel for it.
Dana Carvey
I got a feel for it.
David Spade
Oh. Because I left the sketch during the
Dana Carvey
movie during the big John Mulaney musical.
David Spade
And then I sat in the audience and they go, where's. That's funny that they broke the fourth wall in the middle of a sketch.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Yeah. And the way you did it, like you truly were exhausted and kind of done with it. And they're up there dancing for their donuts, and you're just like,
David Spade
dana, I saw that. That 50th was. Won something the other night.
Dana Carvey
It was a critics choice. I think it was nominated. I think it won.
David Spade
It was best 50th anniversary show.
Lake Bell
That's a new category.
David Spade
We were the only one up for it.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Do you root for any movie at the Golden Globes? Do you have any kind of. I think that person should win or I think that movie. Are you One battle after another? Are you a Marty Supreme?
David Spade
Yeah.
Lake Bell
What are you? I, you know, I don't get. Award season gets. It gets me like hives. I don't know. I just.
David Spade
Here's Lake at the party. Did you think that was good? The lead actor won and you go, I didn't see any. I don't know. Who won it?
Lake Bell
Well, you know, sometimes you get anxiety. They say to you, you know, who are you rooting for?
Dana Carvey
Well, good. I gave you the precursor. I love them all. Well, it's gotten pathetic. I grew up with the Oscars, and Now there's like, 25 award shows.
Lake Bell
Award shows.
Dana Carvey
And I feel like some of them. I won't name them, but that they've got their acceptance speech, and sometimes they can peek at a. At the SAG afterwards or something. Then by the time they get to the Oscars, they're exhausted with their acceptance speech. You gotta hold some.
David Spade
I saw that Sandler didn't win some the other night, and I'm like, I want to hear Sandler's speech. They just go by, who's got a good speech?
Lake Bell
What are you gonna do?
David Spade
Because, you know, he. He had a good one at the Palm Springs Festival.
Dana Carvey
We just do Adam from.
David Spade
That's all he says, and everyone
Dana Carvey
get out of here.
Lake Bell
People would love it.
Dana Carvey
But, you know, anyway, it's a promotion for the business. That's all it is. Yeah.
Lake Bell
And for fashion, I guess. I don't know.
David Spade
I have to say for, like, if she. The fact that she's grinding it out and. And killing it, the duration. It's just hard to stay in showbiz for this long.
Dana Carvey
And you're doing a great job, but you're doing.
David Spade
She's very hard to do.
Dana Carvey
She's doing.
David Spade
She's good at it.
Dana Carvey
All of show business, though, you're doing every quadrant. You're not an actress. Waiting for the phone. Did it ring?
Lake Bell
Yeah, I. That is. I would drive me crazy, I think, when I feel sedentary, like, when I feel too quiet, I like to. I think I do like control. I do like to creatively, you know, kind of drum up. And so I'm always writing. I got like.
Dana Carvey
Yeah. I mean, you. I think this audiobook was very cool. I just looked it up, listening to it, Inside voices. It was very interesting. Just about. She was interviewing people and talking about, do you like your voice? And how important the voice is and what.
Lake Bell
Yeah, well, because I think in extension of my work within a world, I've just always been really interested and curious about our speaking voice as this kind of calling card for all the histories we've ever endured, you know, and kind of, you know, we carry a lot. I mean, whether you realize it or not, obviously accents and dialects and a of lot. Little like how your vowels come out, you know, might cue that you grew up in Philadelphia or, you know, things like that. But then how we kind of puff out or peacock a little bit when we're, you know, in different scenarios. Like, I'm articulating a little more than I normally do, you know, right now. I think I'm also a little bit lower in my register in this moment talking about this, because I'm speaking more serious.
David Spade
Serious. Yeah, yeah.
Dana Carvey
Voices are fingerprints.
David Spade
Voice. I mean, you know, someone from their voice your whole life, and even if they age or get the voice, always sort of recognizable.
Lake Bell
Yeah. And. And also, it can be really, like. It can make me crawl too. You know, I have certain.
David Spade
The wrong one.
Lake Bell
You know, if. If someone comes in for a job interview, you know, or something like that. I mean, to be a babysitter or whatever, you know, or. Or an assistant. And if their voice. I'm very sensitive to it. So it's like, we're.
David Spade
We're out on that job.
Dana Carvey
Dana David has a cool voice. You know, I don't have a voice. I don't have a face or a voice. I'm just neutral. I can go. You could make me a character or make my voice go. Lately, I've been doing Cary Grant, leaving messages for a friend just every day. Every day that you get the call. I hope you're having a good day. Did you see one battle after another? The DiCaprio kid's very good.
Lake Bell
See, but you're chameleon, so that is in itself. Your vocal dexterity is like. I'm in awe of that.
David Spade
You know, in two seconds, it changes completely.
Dana Carvey
It's fun. I don't really practice it or anything, but I'm working on Billy Bob Thornton in his Landman character.
Lake Bell
You know, I didn't see that, so I can't.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, it's another one that's. I couldn't describe it, but it's. It goes surprising places, I have to say.
Lake Bell
Okay.
Dana Carvey
It's. It's totally different than. Than your. Your show, but it goes surprising places.
Lake Bell
He's just great in inside voice. You know, I talked to, like, the likes of iconic voices like. Like Jeff Goldblum and like, where did that start? You know, and like, Barrymore, you know, people who have been very imitate it, you know.
David Spade
You know, very impersonated. For sure.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Voices. Yeah.
Lake Bell
Yes.
David Spade
And then I do Billy Bob and his T Mobile commercial.
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David Spade
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Lake Bell
Okay.
David Spade
He does a T Mobile commercial where he's like, from Landman, Right? Dana, have you seen it?
Dana Carvey
Basically, yeah.
David Spade
He's walking out in the desert. Come on. Now. Whatever he's talking about.
Dana Carvey
Yeah. You know, T Mobile's got more, you know, what the. Going on here. God damn it. No, he's. They have the F word, too. I mean, that's the same. Your. Your show. Just those fly. Whenever they fly or they fly and they do whatever.
Lake Bell
You, you know, find Dana, that, like, to get into an accent or d. Sorry, now we're getting into, like, my obsession. But, like, do you find that you. You have a bridged phrase? Because I find with accents, dialects. I have, like, a. A bridge or a phrase to get.
Dana Carvey
Oh, yeah, a thousand percent.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, a thousand percent.
Lake Bell
You don't just jump in. You.
David Spade
You gotta hook.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, yeah, you need a. You need a little hook. And for Biden, it was that. Guess what?
Lake Bell
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
And by the way, the fact of the matter is.
Lake Bell
Come on.
Dana Carvey
And so that got me into it, and then I could kind of talk like him, but that was a challenge. But anyway, it's always. Things are coming at me. I mean, Trump's been done forever. You know, I don't know if you guys are aware of that, how many people do an impression. So there's. There's. I think Piers Morgan has a very interesting voice, and I think that Senator Kennedy, as of, you know, obviously. Bobby Kennedy Jr. I do. But, yeah, there's a lot of people out there, and there's regular movie stars. Anyway, it's fun, but shall we wrap it up?
David Spade
I don't know.
Dana Carvey
I don't know. Do you have any other questions? Because we think you're. She did a great job with two children.
David Spade
Thank you for doing your hair.
Dana Carvey
She writes, she directs, she does.
David Spade
It's not quite the Golden Globes. Now, when you do a podcast, we had heard that when we have an actress on, they might not want to come on video because it's. They have to doll up. And I said, I think in podcasts, you catch a little bit of a break.
Lake Bell
You do. And, you know, somewhere in the middle, glam. And I was like, I mean, I think I can do the glam. I can glam in my bathroom, you know, with my curling iron and.
David Spade
With a banana clip and a scrunchie and.
Lake Bell
Yeah. You know, But I don't know.
Dana Carvey
Well, you're photogenic. I mean, I'll just. Just saying it kind of casually. You really have great features.
David Spade
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
So it's. It just you. I'm sure directors say you don't have a bad angle. Probably, you know, yeah, it's. But, yeah, it's fine. And I do think we're all used to this. And, you know, I have a Couple ring lights in a window. And, I mean, we're all kind of a little more than the early days where it was pitchfork, flag and no.
David Spade
1.
Dana Carvey
What we were doing. Now you see, people. It looks like a studio.
Lake Bell
Well, I hope I get to see you guys at these parties.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, I. I do. I've quoted you often throughout the years, because when we did the press junket, you know, it's the awkward goodbye because we've been hanging out all day with Bobby Moynihan and laughing and stuff. And then it's like, hey. And then you just said, see around campus.
Lake Bell
Yeah, I did say that.
Dana Carvey
And so I use that a lot.
Lake Bell
Well, because it's kind of like. It's fun, right? So let's.
Dana Carvey
What says a lot?
David Spade
We're all at college, basically, and we're going to run into each other.
Dana Carvey
We're in show business, which is, weirdly, such a tiny group of people in the big picture, you know, there's not that many parties or that many comedians or whatever.
Lake Bell
It's like a party, and you see someone who you don't. You haven't met before. But you both are actors, and you both know that there are actors, and you do the kind of like, hi.
David Spade
You know, that's how I'm gonna say hi to you.
Lake Bell
Like, I know. You know, we both know that we know each other.
David Spade
Here's Lake. When I see her, the Golden Globe. But I go, hi, Lake. And you go, hi, I know you from somewhere. And I go, where did we. Yeah, we just.
Lake Bell
Well, the one go, it's so nice to see you. When you don't know if you've met them or not.
David Spade
Yep, we have.
Dana Carvey
When they give you a soft hug and you see that they're looking over at a bigger celebrity, they're going, I gotta get.
David Spade
I've never had anyone even look at me at those parties. They just go like this.
Dana Carvey
Oh, usually they say, could I get a freshen up?
David Spade
They go to give me a hug by the shoulders, and then they move me.
Lake Bell
They move you over to the side.
David Spade
Benicio.
Lake Bell
Benicio.
Dana Carvey
One time we went to a party, David got on my shoulders, and I was like, you couldn't see me? And then he was dancing around with a marachi thing going on.
David Spade
Look at me. Yeah,
Dana Carvey
well, like, why is, like so popular? Like, even. I hear even more on every show, and am I saying, like. No, you don't say it hardly at all. You said, like, maybe twice. But, like is really good. It was, like, really hard, and I was, like, very scared, and I Was like, really hard.
Lake Bell
It's like, really hard to be.
David Spade
I like, when they don't finish it, they go. It's kind of like.
Lake Bell
Yeah, they don't finish the sentence.
David Spade
And you're like. You just got to, like. That's all you got to.
Dana Carvey
But that's been around since the 80s or 70s. Sort of called the Valley Girl. But it's even still. Just back with people from everywhere.
Lake Bell
It's still here. It's. I mean, it's better than the, like. Oop. I said it.
David Spade
Oh.
Lake Bell
Because we're kind of. Kind of teasing it a little bit.
Dana Carvey
I'm gonna. If I hear myself say I'm a substitute, like, for, like. It's like. It's like.
Lake Bell
It's like.
Dana Carvey
It's like, I didn't even know, but it's like, let's see if we can start a thing.
Lake Bell
Well, sometimes you're allowed to utilize it as a. A version of as if it is like.
Dana Carvey
Right. No, it's. It has utility as a word.
Lake Bell
Yeah.
David Spade
Utility.
Dana Carvey
Yeah. It's not completely. You know. All right, all right.
David Spade
Thank you, Dana.
Dana Carvey
I made you lunch.
David Spade
Come in the kitchen.
Dana Carvey
The Chair company on hbo, which makes quality products, I have to say. You know, HBO is a bigger.
David Spade
Doesn't around.
Dana Carvey
They don't. They don't make shitty ones. And so this is hbo. Max, Jim Downey, our friends on it. Tim.
David Spade
Oh, yeah, Downey. Tell him. Oh, tell him hello. He was my head writer when I was there. I had to report to him.
Lake Bell
Okay.
David Spade
We all. We all kind of did.
Dana Carvey
If you run into Downey, just go, what was it like to be a regular infantryman in George Washington's army in the latter part of the war? And he'll give you two hours. The guy goes into libraries and colleges. He's from Harvard or Yale.
David Spade
I don't know.
Dana Carvey
He's the brainiac of all time in terms of American history.
Lake Bell
Really?
Dana Carvey
And he's fascinating to listen to. Yeah.
Lake Bell
I don't know.
David Spade
I can't believe I ignore him so much.
Dana Carvey
You don't interact with him. You're at home.
Lake Bell
Barb. Barb is over there.
David Spade
All right.
Dana Carvey
Shut up. Barb prosper.
Lake Bell
Yeah. Trosper. Barb Prosper.
Dana Carvey
Ron and Barb. Trosper.
David Spade
Stupider.
Dana Carvey
Barb Trosp.
Lake Bell
I remember I was like, even the words like Fisher Robay. The name of the mall company.
David Spade
Someone's working overtime on these dumb names.
Dana Carvey
Oh, it's.
David Spade
So what's a chair company? Quick.
Dana Carvey
I love walking around the mall. There's something about a mall walking around a mall. It's really funny.
Lake Bell
Makes sense. But, yeah, I just kept being like, I'm dyslexic. So I was like. Like, I couldn't. Oh, there was something else. Like, I kept saying a name wrong. Oh, this was really fun. Sorry, last thing. But they would say, like, there's the. The. The girlfriend. Like, the fiance of our daughter is named Tara. But we intentionally say it wrong. So sometimes it's Tara and Tara. And I was like, is it Tara or Tara? And they're like, it's fine. Don't worry about it. And I was like, but is it. They're like.
David Spade
Because that happens in real life.
Lake Bell
People say, yeah, and it's just because we don't like her. You know, we.
Dana Carvey
I love people like, that are in charge of this, that are not control freaks and open to the mistakes and the weirdness and the quirky. Yeah.
Lake Bell
And we don't love that. It's terrorists.
Dana Carvey
Terror turret.
David Spade
All right, like, thank you. I have to go. Microwave. I appreciate you coming on.
Dana Carvey
Nice to see you, Lake. See you around campus.
David Spade
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David Spade
Fly on the Wall is presented by Odyssey and executive produced by Danny Carvey and David Spade, Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman, Maddie Sprung Kaiser and Leah Reese Dennis of Odyssey.
Dana Carvey
Our senior producer is Greg Holtzman, and the show is produced and edited by
David Spade
Phil Sweettech, booking by Cultivated Entertainment.
Dana Carvey
Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura Curran, Melissa Wester, Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kirk Courtney, and Lauren Vieira.
David Spade
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Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade: Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca) March 12, 2026
This episode features actress, writer, and director Lake Bell, joining Dana Carvey and David Spade for a vibrant, off-kilter conversation about show business, the comedy grind, and the peculiarities of life inside and outside Hollywood. The trio riff on everything from award show anxieties, voice acting, and the quirks of Lake’s name, to production war stories and the creative process. Throughout, the tone is witty, relaxed, and full of classic Carvey-Spade banter, sprinkled with fresh insights from Lake Bell on work/life balance, adaptability, and finding creative joy.
The conversation is clever, breezy, and candid, balancing comedic asides with moments of warmth and authenticity. Lake Bell comes across as collected, wry, and deeply thoughtful about her craft and life, comfortable amidst the absurdities of Hollywood while staying grounded by motherhood and personal creative ambitions. The episode offers a rare look into the anxieties and triumphs of a working actor/director who isn’t afraid to laugh at herself and the industry, making for an entertaining and insightful hour.
Recommended for:
Anyone interested in behind-the-scenes Hollywood tales, creative self-direction, comedic philosophy, voice acting process, and fans of wry showbiz banter. The chemistry among the trio shines, making this episode a standout for both laughs and life lessons.