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The Emmy winning comedy Scrubs is back. The beloved original cast, led by Zach Braff, Donald Faison, and Sarah Chalk, have returned to Sacred Heart Hospital for all new hilarious and heartfelt stories.
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The new season of Scrubs, new Wednesdays at 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu.
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To be honest, there was a real thing in Seattle where ambition was kind of looked down upon.
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You know, I could see that.
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But the one at 10, I was pretty hammered. That was a surprise. Well, they sent me the script. You know, we were gonna. We were gonna. Yeah, for a moment, I was excited for snl.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I couldn't even believe you were even possibly gonna do that with me. I was.
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And then next thing you know, they had me dressed up as a pirate.
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Oh, that's right.
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I didn't really agree to that.
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Edward Vedder, you know him as Eddie Vedder. I know him as Eddie Ed.
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Very good friend, Singer, songwriter. Was one of the original. The Pearl Jam.
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Pearl Jam. Everybody.
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Everybody knows Pearl Jam, one of the iconic bands out of Seattle in the 90s. And so we got to talk to Eddie Vetter, which is really, really interesting.
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He's got a documentary out about EB which is a skin condition, which is quite a rough ride.
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And he has spent 15 years, along with his wife, battling this disease. With benefits that you and I have done.
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Yeah.
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To raise money for research.
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And they're making money. Scientists got everyone on board. Everyone on deck. On a lighter note, when I was on snl, I remember that I did a joke where I go, stone Temple Pilots have a new album. I like these guys. The first time I saw them, when they were called Pearl Jam, it was one of those.
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Oh, really? So. As if it was a total rip off.
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Yeah. And then because he's like. And I feel. I go, raining in your bedroom. And I see. So. So then Stone Temple came on about four months later, and then Marcy Klein comes up. She goes, david, Stone Temple wants you to come down rehearsal. And I go, oh. And she goes, actually, wait, don't go. The guy wants to kick the shit out of you. And I go, oh.
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Oh. Because. Okay, that hit too close for home. A joke saying. You're kind of like this, man. That's.
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Oh, that's.
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Bands don't want to hear that. Although Eddie Vedder has. He's got the voice. He's got a voice that's instantly. With its phrasing, and his tenor is instantly recognizable.
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Yes. I take him through the top rock voices of all time. And I told him, I said, I can't promise you're on it. It's whatever my list is. My list.
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Don't get me wrong, that was a tense moment in the interview.
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And. But Scott Weiland, actually, just to say as a caveat, that did happen. But I did run into years later, because I do like Stone Temple Pilots. Most people made fun of mine. And so he was changed. His tune was very cool.
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Very cool. You know, you. It's harder to explain that in that particular joke, the triple name, there's an official, you know, like a Pearl Gem. Stone Temple pilot. There was probably a reason that you picked that band, because you could have picked Creed or, you know, whatever, you.
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Would have picked Helen Redding with Eyes Wide Open.
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They're great.
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But anyway, back to Eddie Vedder.
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All right, We. Eddie Vedder is our lot of fun.
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We crack up.
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Thoughtful and interesting interview. And we do last.
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And for those Deep Dive, Fly on the Wall. Frequent Flyers. We do. Yeah. Gervitz. Because he knows Gervitz. So look, for that.
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He's. Mark Gurvitz is a very good friend, and he's our manager, and so we always do this. Well, David really started it.
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Make fun of my.
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It doesn't really sound like him, but it's. It's funny. It's a. It's a Frequency. It's an exaggeration.
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It's funnier the way we do it than the real life.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, that's. I love impressions that go to an abstraction.
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All right, here's our boy.
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Gotta do it. Thanks for coming on. You want to talk about.
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Hi, Eddie.
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Can you hear us?
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Hey, David. I can hear you. Great.
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Good, good.
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You know, Eddie, I have a cool hat like that, too.
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We've traded hats before.
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Are you sure?
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Yeah. There it is. You still got it.
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Wow.
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It's a little. It's a little sweaty because, as you can see, because I'm a bit of a rocker and sometimes I sweat when I'm working.
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We're kind of rockers, too, in a way. I mean, not in the way you are, but, you know.
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Absolutely. You are.
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No, no, we're never were. I guess that's the pinnacle, in a way, as a little kid, of just in a band. I mean, I was in a band with my brother. You know, I had a Hardy Boys book as a snare and a kick. Drum was a basket, and he had a one string guitar. But we all start out that way, and then at some point we go. Maybe not my.
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When the money's not flowing.
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When the money's. No, I got out of that in high school. But what about. What do you want to talk about? Would you like to talk about your Netflix special first? You could do it. You can run this show any way you want, and then we'll.
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Well, you know what I mean. As heartbreaking as the EB Subject can be, though, also hopeful. Another heartbreaking thing that. That has been on my mind was the loss of Katherine o'. Hara. And I just wanted to. Look, I'm chills already. I'm, you know, really only having met her five different times over the years, you know, and compared to the way you know her, you know, even I was just absolutely gutted. And I just. I wished all the people that had never had the chance to be in her presence and to have a laugh. And she was. She was everything and more that you'd expect or dream of her being. She was just such an incredible energy and. And that loss is. Is so profound, and. And that's why that's been on my mind for sure.
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Yeah. Over here, too, with me and Dana.
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Yeah.
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Dana spent more time with her than I did, but, man, you can't find anyone that doesn't love Catherine o' Hara out there.
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Yeah. And just an effortless, brilliant performer. Always making the choice you don't expect. Making her peers Laugh and the whole world laugh. And her presence or just no apparent ego or whatever you call that. I mean, she knew who she was, but it's just. I don't know if it's Canadian or what. There's John Candy and others. They're just sort of.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Extra, extra. And so Marty as well.
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Marty short. Yeah. Another.
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Yeah, I guess it's okay to say. Memorial at the Catholic Church this past weekend. And it was really, really emotional and Marty gave the eulogy and he was special.
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Yeah.
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Funny. And, and, and yeah, they always got.
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To make some jokes because it's so heavy.
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It's so hard because she would want it that way. I mean, they, you know, comedians kind of, you know, want the. The music to carry on, really. Of course, we're all sad, but we have all this stuff of her brilliance to share for a long time. Forever.
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I. I heard her sister was in attendance, obviously, but Mary Margaret.
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Yeah.
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Who's put out some great music that affected me deeply.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah. She had a great album, probably even in the late 80s. I think Michael Stipe helped with. Was called Miss America. Yeah. There's a. If you watch, David Sanborn used to have a show.
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Was it David Sanborn?
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Yeah, yeah, I remember that late show. And he'd get all these interesting musicians together and she. I think the song is called when youn Know. But if you look up her on. On that show, it's such a. Such a cool performance. And you can see the sisterhood there it is.
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It's kind of interesting we have this in our world too because I was looking up some of, you know, the. The bands of the 90s in Seattle and all that. And just. I was just going to say. And then it had a list of like 50 other. What they were calling grunge, which. Which I want to ask you about the. The names of rock over the years. Punk and grunch and hard rock, alternative rock, you know, soft rock. So you must have known and know so many bands that didn't break through, quote unquote. And maybe that wasn't even their goal. I mean, the goal for me was always that this would be my job and I'll see how it goes. But that was the dream. What about you?
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Well. Oh, and before I forget, Night Music.
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Was the name of the David Sandboard Night Music, wherever you get your David Sandborg Night Music variety shows.
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Well, you know, I kind of. My main. After I graduated from things like Jackson 5 and Motown when I was a kid, and then I had kind of Some older brothers, because I was in a group home thing that my parents helped run. So then I was turned on to a lot of Sly Family Stone and James Brown and kind of more adult Motown music and stacks and all that. And then. And then there was, you know, kind of Beatles, but then it became the who and the Kinks and to the Jam and so the. But the 60s British stuff and Stones, et cetera, you know, that seemed like the most exciting time to be alive. You know, when I was 15, listening to. Enveloped and engrossed in all that British Invasion stuff. It seemed like Tuesday nights at the Marquee for the who and, you know, all those bands getting together or Hendrix showing up and blowing everybody's minds. Yeah, that seemed like the coolest time to be alive. And you would read about it and think if I. What it would have been like to. You know, I was born too late. You know, if you could have. And then in the wrong place. If you wanted to be part of what was kind of one of the most, if not the most extraordinary periods of music. And then kind of waking up one day, I remember almost to the day waking up and looking around and all of a sudden being part of a scene, a legitimate scene that was a community and was all very supportive of each other. And so of all the bands of note, you know, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains. And then first there was Mother Love Bone, which turned into Pearl Jam, but was Green river before that. And then Green river, half of it turned into Mud Honey. It's like the Fastbacks and the Human and, you know, these groups that didn't. Quite different levels. Yeah, well, and I. And I. Dana, you mentioned it. You know, maybe they. That wasn't part of either their goal or their ambition. Because to be honest, there was a real thing in Seattle where ambition was kind of looked down upon.
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You know, I could see that that's what the vibe was from afar. Like we're not trying to be cool or commercial. We got something to say.
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It's actually hurts us the bigger we get. I mean, it. You guys took off. It seemed so fast. It probably was not as fast.
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I don't know if anyone had a bigger first album. I mean, it's like sort of like.
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Like just was 91 that out because there was. I looked up in 91, some monster albums came out in one year. And I think you probably heard this, but it was like Nirvana, Pearl Jam. I think it was maybe Metallica, Van Halen, Guns N' Roses. Use your illusion. I was like shocked by how many bangers in a row in an eight month period came out and we tried to slurp them all over to snl. We didn't get everybody, but one of my early shows was you. Sharon Stone show.
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Yeah, Sharon Stone. Phil was alive. Phil Hartman. Oh, yeah, I still have a good.
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You had a good pocket there. You got on.
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Yeah, go ahead.
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You have something with Phil. You got a photo.
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Polaroid. Was Lovett and Phil sitting at the end of the night. And I came across those recently and. And it was powerful to see and you know, not only having been like a devotee of the show since staying up late when I was 12 or whatever it was, it was just such a formidable yet completely enjoyable experience to actually, you know, be in those hallowed halls. And I still remember making friends with a couple of the old dudes, you know, the crew guys or the guy who sits silver chair with the Saturday night kind of calligraphy down the back and.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, going back and seeing those people over the years was always real exciting, you know, or getting to meet Don Pardo or, you know, all that stuff is.
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You came on twice and I saw in my deep research, even though I know you a little bit, but I think the second time you came on, you got three songs. That is so rare. Is that true? Because I think you had maybe better man or daughter. So you had three. And the first time it was alive and something else. And I thought, holy, look at this spoiled dude. You get three, they roll in with.
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I forgot about that.
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Yeah, yeah, It's a big deal. It was to us. We were like, man, I don't think.
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They told us until after the first rehearsal show. Right. So you do a first show at six or something.
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Yeah. Dress rehearsal. Yeah.
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In between they said, do you want to do one more? So what?
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Anything else?
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What that means is one or two of the. The skits or whatever. What?
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Yeah, Gap girls got cut for you. Thank you.
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So I don't think it was based on what we were offering. I think it was the la. The lack of.
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Good sketches. Yeah, everything bombed.
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Yeah, we bombed Doing news at that point. Was it Norm?
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Was Norm doing the news? A good question because it was 91 and 93. It was probably.
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It was Kevin Nealon and then.
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Oh, it might have been Kevin.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Might have been the end of Dennis on the first one. Because 91, that was probably my first year.
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Yeah.
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And Daddy and I are very close to the same age. Won't say any numbers out there, but yeah, you had a birthday recently. And I was like, okay, I'm a.
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I'm a half step up.
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How is that? That was fun.
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I'm a half step up. So when I heard the 90s sound come in and from Seattle, let's say it did feel like something new, its own little mini renaissance, it was different. You know, there were hair bands in the 80s and stuff. There was, I don't know, it was a different sound, which I appreciated a lot. I just love hard rock. I love whatever you guys were doing. I mean.
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But I put Poison out of business.
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Poison. Well, whatever. We want to pick on those bands.
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But, you know, it was sort of a shift.
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It was. It was a shift. It was very cool.
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The Emmy winning comedy Scrubs is back to ABC with a fresh Pulse. It's been 15 years since we've checked in with the gang at Sacred Heart Hospital. The beloved original cast, Zach Braff, Donald Faison and Sarah Chalk scrub back in older and maybe wiser Judy Reyes, John C. McGinley also reprised their iconic roles. And scrub fans, you'll be thrilled to see some of your fan favorite characters pop up, though we can't reveal any names just yet. After creating hits like Ted Lasso and shrinking, executive producer Bill Lawrence has put together a diverse, talented group of writers to bring to life the Scrubs universe of today. And there's a healthy injection of super funny, colorful new characters, including a fresh group of newbie interns and co workers slash nemeses like Vanessa Bayer and Joel Kim.
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Booster the new season of Scrubs new Wednesdays at 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu.
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The Emmy winning comedy Scrubs is back. The beloved original cast, including Zach Braff, Donald Faison, Sarah Chalk, Judy Reyes and John C. McGinley scrub it back in at Sacred Heart Hospital for all new hilarious and heartfelt stories. And there's a healthy injection of colorful new characters, including a fresh group of newbie interns and co workers slash nemeses Vanessa Bayer and Joel Kim.
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Booster the new season of Scrubs new Wednesdays at 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu. There's only two quick things I wanted to ask you very quickly just about because I heard about the who and Neil Young. You maybe like them, but I thought of Roger Daltrey and you and I did connect the dots between. There's some symmetry there with a big voice and also can go really soft. So who's next? The A side is maybe as good as anything that's ever been recorded in my mind. And then Neil Young was Maybe the father of grunch with Russ never sleeps or hey, hey, My, my electric. You know, so I heard you love those two things, so I just wanted to co. Sign that.
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Well, yeah, I think Neil has been given the moniker of Godfather of Grunge. Not just because of the flannel, but because of the sound.
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Yeah.
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And his sound up close. You know, one of the very fortunate things, having worked with him and playing live, is the sound of his amp up close. It's like standing next to an erupting volcano or the biggest wave at Waimea Bay crashing onto the shore. And then he seems to kind of lose himself in this way where he kind of starts shape shifting and kind of turns into like a shaman. And then. Yeah, then he seems like he's an old Indian and. And then he turns into like a young kid and. And you're like in the cage with the lion. It's, it's. Yeah, it will vibrate your souls yourselves.
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It's unique because he looks like he's almost struggling or sort of spastic in a way when he gets into that trance. And then when I listened to his solo on Cortez the Killer, which I got to hang out him a few times and told him what it meant to me, how that song first of all is like. And then his solo in that. And no one plays like Neil. There's others equally brilliant, but he has his own lane. And it's this magic, you know. Magic.
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Yeah, he. He channels, you know, he really channels. And. And in order to do that, you have to be in tune to, you know, the energy, the, you know, whatever's out there. And that's a. That's a skill in itself, you know, beyond. You know, the notes seem to come not from a scale, they seem to come from a. Yeah, divine.
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To stay a child or be in touch with that when your higher consciousness hadn't kicked in and you're just being playful, like a four year old drawing, and yet you're a human adult. And then when you get in touch with that, that part of you boys, a lot of a creative explosion. But Neil always felt like he. He was there somehow. It's like a child up there in a way, in the purest form.
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Well, in the way you just explained it, I think of some of the stuff we watch you guys do, you know, there's still that playful and improvisational, you know, that's. You could say it's from doing a lot of reps, but it's also, I think it comes from, you know, Being still having maintained that freedom and flexibility. Sure of, you know, because then that's what becomes, you know, so funny and, and so spot on or, or so quick.
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You can, I think, like music and stand up as. As, you know, it's probably similar in the way that I could do a show and in three nights, same theater, and then they're all just a hair different and no one really noticed, but I can tell this crowd is a little like this. I was more like this. I kind of adapted to that. And it's funny how they can be a little different every night. And maybe it's not as noticeable to people, but maybe it is. But I think that's what music is. It's still the same set. I'm still doing what I'm doing. Like you're going to do the same set list, let's say. But you can tell some nights are a little different and you're just. You're rolling with something a little harder. You're getting into something a little different that you have before. And that's kind of the fun of it. It's not just a rubber stamping. It's, it's. It can be. It can go almost anywhere.
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And do you get nervous before you play?
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Yeah, I still do. Dana doesn't get as nervous, but.
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Well, when you're dancing for your donuts like you're auditioning for Lorne Michaels and, and you're 30 years old, that's a different kind of nervousness. But now I do feel responsibility for to I. As comedians, we're supposed to kill, quote, unquote, we're supposed to destroy. We're supposed to levitate the room. This is slay. And I think that, yeah, I don't know if you have this, but if the night's a little bit off, the voice in the back, your head is. Is still giving yourself notes a little bit while you're singing, while they're playing. You're doing pretty good. You're doing pretty good. That's not going well. When that goes dead quiet, then you're in the zone and yeah, nothing matters except expressing the rhythm of the words that you want to do in that moment. Or if it's non verbal, which is even better. And yeah, you want to get to that playful state and you don't always get to it. That's why when it happens, have you had a moment like that in the studio or a live recording where you just went to another place and then you listen yourself back and you go, man, I was. They call it Being in the zone, you know, just. It's fun.
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Yeah. There was a vocal on the last. Or not the last record. It was a solo record called earthling. But yes.
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2022. Andrew Wyatt, Ringo, Elton John and Stevie Wonder.
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Andrew.
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Yeah, Andrew Wyatt, of course, every album.
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Chad Smith and oh, Jesus. But it was funny, I found out later there was one of the vocals in. Was put together of two vocals, and one was at about five in the afternoon or evening, and then the other one was at 10. Once we got it put together, you can't tell the difference. But the one at 10, I was pretty hammered, you know, listening.
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Yeah, we get that.
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And it was kind of amazing. And I was in a different form of being in the zone, you know, I was just feeling it. And by that time, the words and the phrasing had come together, but I was just.
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So.
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I remember that, or I remember not remembering that.
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Yeah, that's good.
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And then hearing it back, I thought, wow, that's. That's pretty cool. And didn't realize that the vocal that they had been five hours apart, but they actually sounded.
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You tell the difference in listening to it.
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No, I couldn't. I. I was surprised to hear that.
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It was that you did a second.
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You know, listening to your speaking voice. It's kind of your singing voice. I. I wonder when the first time you went, holy, I can sing. Because it. It is a voice. You're one of the voices.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know, it hasn't happened yet.
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That's also good. We all think everything is still blossoming.
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This is. This is very nice to hear. I'll take that. I have some more.
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I mean, you could just go on at Google and Google your name. Who are the. I was.
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I was guessing top rock voices, and I scribbled some down, but I don't know if you'll agree. But I was like, mine are right, so you guys can agree or not.
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I hope that he's on the list.
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I mean, I don't know.
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We'll see Tiny Tim.
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We're going back.
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And then I got a shot if you start with Tiny Tim. I think I might.
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Tiny Tim got mentioned on the podcast. That is a first.
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Tiny Tim was the very happy carrot top of his. Yeah, no, I, I, you know what one. I know the ones that get mentioned a lot. I mean, Axel's got a very unique voice. Robert Plant, of course, the basics. But Bon Scott. Would you give it up for Bon Scott?
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Oh, yeah.
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Absolutely. Sickening.
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Dana.
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I love Bon Scott. And it was so hard to replace Acdc still crushed it after, but God dang Bon Scott was so interesting. There's Bowie, Steve Perry, Curveball.
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But Steve Perry. Ernie was. And the notes that that guy hit. Yeah, right. Pretty impressive.
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Eddie, you agree? Even. I'm not saying even. Sting has a very unique voice.
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Oh yeah, yeah.
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No Sting voices. Sting's voice can cut through the clouds. And you know, he. He does some early stuff. Sometimes friends will come over and I'll play him stuff they have never heard. He worked with this German guy called Eberhard Schoner and he just does some insane stuff with his. At one point, he basically sings the phone book. Meaning an article in a San Francisco paper or something.
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Yeah.
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And what he does with it is so extraordinary. Not to mention he's incredible bass player.
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Yeah. Because he's always in the pocket. He's not outside of it. He's not. He's just. It's. He's simple for himself. He says that. But I. When I listen to Synchronicity and the Police and I hear Stuart Copeland and I'm going, they're doing reggae, rock, jazz.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And just Copeland, you know, and of course Sting.
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Very casual drummer. That was. I think he was there then very. I. I think I was a little starstruck because I was like, oh, is that Stuart Copeland? I never seen.
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Wasn't Ringo and Stuart Copeland there? You told me. And I was so jealous at one of the EV events, actually.
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That was my. That was my birthday last year.
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Were they your birthday gift? Hang out with Ringo?
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It was quite peppered with musicians that.
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Were okay, lots of head turners.
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But by the way, back to EB events. I think, you know, a lot of great people play these events for EB which you work tirelessly with. And it's such a great event and it. And it's such an important ebay know thing to. To help and, and. And we meet the kids and they always. The performances are great. The kids are always so friendly and sweet. They're having the toughest time out there, which we can talk about. But some of those nights I even think. I think I did it once. I think Dana might have done it. Zach Alanakis always good. There's always like comedy and music. I think. Chris Cornell maybe one night.
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The old days.
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So we are very blessed with those parties. But they're very, very actually important events which ties into this documentary about EB that Dana and I are watching. It's very, very strong stuff and it's very. Pulls at the heartstrings. I will Say that.
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Well, we're really feeling fortunate that it was. That it's now out there on Netflix. I think you mentioned Netflix.
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Matter of time. That's all you have to. Matter of time.
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Yeah. It will serve as a education on, you know, anybody who asks, has curiosity. Anybody who asks us about, you know, what is epidermolysis bullosa, what is the cb? This can forever serve as the answer to all the questions. And you really get to know not only the kids and their families and the challenges, but you. You get to meet these, you know, incredible people working on this whole community's behalf, meaning the researchers and the genetic scientists. Genetic researchers, you know, they say this thing about heroes, something like, you know, heroes aren't made. It's more people face with, you know, incredible circumstances or facing difficult consequence. And that is where these heroes are born. And this, this film is. It's. It's really full of them because you see how heroic and courageous these kids are.
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Oh, my God.
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You see what the families go through, what the siblings go through. And. And you also see that these, you know, genetic researchers going at it day after day with the funding that's provided to them through these fundraisers. It is, it's such a. I'm so glad you get to know these people on a personal level because, you see, it's not just, you know, people in lab coats, you know, punching the clock. This is their life's work. They're dreaming about it. They're coming to work each day thinking about the new approach, trial and error. They feel so close. You know, it's a monogenic condition, meaning it's just one mutated gene in the DNA. They've isolated that gene, so now they're just trying to, you know, be able to fix that. And, you know, the. The hope on the horizon is not only would it that process when they figured out how to unlock this key, it would not only, you know, we're on the forefront, you know, we're like on the Runway at this time of genetic research, EB in particular. But once that lifts off, it'll help thousands and thousands of other genetic skin disorders.
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Yeah, because the half the kids, first of all, when I see them, I'd see a lot of the same ones every year at the event, and always upbeat, always cool kids, always fun up for having a good time. I know they don't get to do that much fun stuff. It's just even some of the scientists and doctors are saying when they get stuck, they go, we have these breakthroughs. And then when it's stuck. You're just really helping with the pain. It's not really helping them. You're just like, they have to take bandages off, put them back. It's just pain. And it's just so hard to be a parent to watch that. And I can't imagine. So you're doing a good thing. And everyone over there, obviously Jill, your wife is working hard and just to be a part of it. And we get to go just once a year and help or different little events you have. But man, I'm telling you, they deserve a break. That's for sure.
C
Well, in this film is about. It was two years ago. We really wanted to get the whole community together in Seattle. It was a whole day full of symposiums. It was basically an EV summit with doctors, donors, families. And then the music was just supposed to be kind of a reason to get together around the campfire at the end of the night. And I will say it was, it.
A
Was.
C
It was difficult. It just the. The songs had more weight. Looking out in the crowd and seeing my friends, the doctors, seeing my friends, the families and the kids, it was, it was, it became very emotional. And they, they filmed it and really not thinking, you know, we were just kind of trying to document it. But then the more we saw. And then this great filmmaker, Matt Finland, who we were working with, another great Canadian, he was able to. And I can't think of anybody else who could have done this really, because he had been working with EB stuff and with us for probably about five years at that point. But at that point, knowing the sensibilities, the families, knowing them personally, and he was able to kind of ask them to be part of their lives and film some things that were uncomfortable and film some instances that would take courage to allow it to be filmed. And. And it's really great.
B
It's a wake up call for people.
A
That watch it, you know. So I think it's necessary sometimes to say this is really what's going on here.
C
Yeah. Because I don't, you know, even a few of the folks that came to have come to the events over the years, the ones at Gervit's house and California, they. They didn't really understand it until the film. So that kind of reminds you that there's. There was a lot of education that was. That seems to be welcome now that people are seeing it. We're getting so much good feedback already.
A
Yeah, for sure.
B
It's very interesting that it's one. One Gene, you know, because I'm sort of Casually know A cardiac cardiologist, P.K. shaw, at Cedar Sinai, and he's in their research labs. And a lot of Times it's like 20 different genes, 30 different genes, but just one gene. I'm very hopeful. I'm hoping that AI for whatever monstrosity it may bring to us is also going to go, you know, make the.
A
Some good. Yeah.
B
Forward. And I'm hoping that within five or 10 years, cancer is pretty much fixed. And I pray that this one is too. You know, and many other scleroderma, which is an autoimmune disease primarily. But it reminds me of that because David and I, I went to a few of those with Bob Saget.
A
Saget, yeah.
B
And when you see a child, pretty little girl in a wheelchair and then she has a pink bow in her hair and you just. It's very, it's so. I mean, I had hard. Both Bob Sagan and I, God rest his soul, we were just done after that. We had to go up and do comedy, but it was just like.
A
Yeah.
B
So the, the documentary, I'm sure is just completely heart wrenching, but you can't ever bang the drum hard enough for the amount of suffering that happens ad hoc around the world. You know, these parents just. This just happened. And so I couldn't respect you more for taking this on, not for a day or a week, I think spent 15 years of this foundation. And so kudos to you. Thank you.
C
Well, it's a good team. It's a great board. We do something called venture philanthropy, which is a newer model. So if we fund research and something happens because of the research. Positive. And for example, you talked about pain earlier, David. You know, we've been able to come out with now three FDA approved treatments. Not cures, but just treatments for the pain, for the wounds.
A
Great.
C
It's gene therapy, which is a newer thing. And you know what you said we might be in that, that perfect. You know, there is a wave of technology even going back five, seven years. You know, computing power really helped, you know, map the human genome, etc. So, you know, it being a single, single mutation, you know, we're, we're lucky in that way because think of all the variables with the. The 20 as you mentioned.
B
Yeah.
C
But this hopefully would be. Well, it is the start to cracking these codes.
B
Yeah. It's a hopeful time in medicine for sure.
A
Yeah, it's. We're in a new stuff.
B
I'm shift.
A
Well, those, those parties at Gervitz's, the fundraisers are great. Everyone has a Good time in spite of what's going on. But we hope the kids come and get a breather. I know there's a lot of celebrities. We don't have to name them all, but there's a lot of people that really show up and help out and, and I think it's fun for everybody.
B
So people watch the documentary. Everyone.
A
Yeah, documentary.
B
Watch the documentary and they'll know if they want to make a donation. Is it there? Or we can also put it in our intro or talk about it now, you know, now.
C
Yeah. I'm not sure if the information. I think it's more. If you look it up, it's just, it stands as a film on its own. And ebrp, excuse me, EBRP is the name of the organization. And like I said, we have, we. We've been able to streamline the book, you know, all the, all the things that, that you want in an organization, including, I will say, these angel donors that come in and just take care of all the administrative costs for every year.
A
It's a big deal.
C
Which means all of these funds that are raised go direct to research. You know, we're, we have so many reasons to be proud of this and, and now to be able to be proud of the film. It's it, it feels it. You know, we're making more progress than getting setbacks. So we're in a good space.
B
Nice.
C
And, and really being here with you guys and talking about it, it means a lot to us. So on behalf of everybody, we thank you.
B
For sure.
A
For sure.
B
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Except Discover in a little place like this. I don't think so, Jennifer.
C
Oh, yeah. Huh.
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C
Where I like to shop. Come on, baby.
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Get with the times. Right? So we shouldn't get the parachute pants.
C
These are making a comeback, I think.
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A
I have another question before I get rid of you. Is Song Sung blue? Look who's in it. Not really Eddie Vedder, but better. Eddie. Incredible simulation.
B
Yeah.
A
Did you see it yet?
B
Eddie?
C
That was a surprise. Well, they sent me the script.
A
That was a surprise.
B
Yeah, that is.
A
Yeah.
C
But it was really. They were really sweet people to know and a story worth telling. And you know, you talk about going from playing drums on your mom's cookbook to, you know, this guy, he. Lightning, he. He had a dream and he. He wasn't going to let it go. And it was again, very. You know, what I. What I will say is that to think that years after he passed, you know, his spirit has to be out there somewhere, knowing and just inflated with pride. Knowing that not just they made a film, but fucking Hugh Jackman plays him. It's pretty amazing. And the.
A
Couldn't imagine. Couldn't imagine. Yeah, for sure.
C
And Kate Hudson's amazing as Claire. She's really.
A
Yeah.
B
I'm in the middle of it.
A
I didn't even know it was real. I'm in the middle of it just thinking it's. I like Neil Diamond. I sang one of his songs in one of my movies. I went and saw him in concert, and I was like, oh, this sounds like it's up my alley, just on the peripheral, you know? And then here comes Eddie Vedder calling him. But I didn't know that was real either. So I. I found out later it was real. You did call.
C
Yeah, they. They. They were.
A
I knew this other someone you heard about. You just heard that they were out there and it was kind of funny. And they were doing. And you're like, let's bring them out.
C
Well, Milwaukee had this interesting little scene of odd acts. Another one was called the Frogs, which was a two man, two brothers that would play songs like Adam and Steve Know, Drink, Dress up in Pink sailor Suits. It was a thing. But Nirvana loved them. This friend of ours, Bob Whitaker, Mud Honey, we loved them, and I think they turned us onto lightning and thunder, and you just wanted them to, you know. Another guy, Wesley. Willis. Willis out of Chicago. You know, you had an opportunity because the light was shining on you, to share that light.
A
Yeah.
C
With some very cool folks that you thought deserved it. And, you know, it wasn't always easy, because then they might think, like, oh, you know, here we go. And it's not. You know, it's hard. You. You know, you hope they can handle it.
A
Right. So nutty. I mean, you called him. That's a big deal. Then Hugh Jackman plays him down the line. But you just never know. It's such an odd business. And they're in front of a big crowd for you guys. And you. Did he call you to. Did he ask you to sing with him? Is that what it was?
C
And that was real backstage. Yeah, I think he asked. That's how it's depicted.
A
Something like that. And then you go out there and sing with him, which is what a blast.
C
Yeah, yeah, they were. They were very sweet, and it was a big crowd for them, and that was nice. Their cup was filled for a little bit there. And then that movie's filled with, you know, there's some combustion. You know, accidents happen in their lives, and they have to deal with that. And. Yeah, it's a real story.
A
Yeah. Very interesting. Dana. You don't know.
C
We were gonna. We were gonna.
B
Yeah.
C
For a moment, I was excited for snl.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
I Couldn't even believe you were even possibly gonna do that with me. I was Eddie veteran.
A
I want to see it.
B
Chopping broccoli. And I was trying to think of how to do it, you know, because it's at. You know. You know that. What. It wasn't. It wasn't within a sketch. I used to do it in my standup act, just solo with a little piano, if there was one available. But, yeah, I guess you were. Maybe I was going to start and then you were going to come out and she chop and then kind of wail. She chopped with your pipes. Chopping broccoli, man.
A
Hysterical.
B
Yeah, we'll get to it.
A
Maybe one day. Yeah.
B
Real early. Yeah. You know, but. Yeah, that would have been a blast. Well, I. I can't sing. I mean, I'm a comedian. I can fake sing, you know.
C
No, you could sing.
A
I think you can sing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Now I can sing a little like Neil because. Just. Because for whatever reason. But a lot of people can. But. But I can't. When you see a real singer, you know, it's like a real drummer. I. I fake it at a lot of things. When you see a real talent in music, kind of like, okay, that was not my calling, but. But thank you. But we would have rocked it and I would have blown you away. But my point is this, Eddie.
C
Well, the thing is, I agreed to. To work with you, and then next thing you know, they had me dressed up as a pirate.
B
Oh, that's right.
A
In the New York. No. Were you in Broadway?
B
We were on the Friday night show. Was it a Radio City Music hall or where was it?
A
I went to that.
C
Yeah, yeah, it was really.
B
You were in the pirate sketch?
C
Yeah, well, they had a few. A few band. Lady Gaga and.
B
Yeah. People in there. I remember that.
A
Yeah, I was at that show. It was a great. That one. They should have aired. They probably couldn't because all the music. But it was cool as.
C
That was good. And we were going to do Tom Petty at one of the shows.
A
Oh, we were maybe one of the Bill Mar.
C
Show. Yeah.
A
No, at your. At your birthday. I was. I said. Or Bill Maher ruined it because he said, hey, are you going to stick around? I said, yeah, I think we're all going to sing. And then. And then he said.
C
And Adam.
A
And he goes, no, Eddie's not gonna sing. He said, you shouldn't stick around because he's not gonna sing. We're wrapping up. So the cake came up. And then he goes, everyone's taking off. Why Is he sabotaging me? We were gonna sing Tom Petty, and so I left. And then, honestly, an hour later, Adam called and said, hey, where are you? You're up. And I go, I thought everyone left.
B
And then who got to steal my.
A
Tom Petty song with you?
C
You know, I think because you weren't there, we just didn't do it.
A
Oh, good. You know what? It's not the same.
B
Yeah.
A
Adam can sing, though. Adam's good.
B
Adam's.
C
Eddie could play guitar.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
He won.
A
His life is all green lights. My God.
C
And he can write.
A
Yeah, I know.
C
But. No, you can really play.
A
Yeah, that's a fun thing. We all. I think we all. I think we're in Seattle doing a gig. We was Norm there when you came out to see Sandler's tour and Seab. Do you remember that?
C
I think Norm was there.
A
Tony Hawk.
C
There's been a couple, but Norm. Yeah.
A
Eddie came out and did some who song. And then we're like, okay, here's a real singer. Here we go.
C
Oh, I forgot about that.
A
We did. Can't explain. I think.
C
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
B
Maybe hard to cover.
C
I think so.
A
I think that's where I snake that hat.
C
I think it is. Where is it? We could be twinning right now.
A
It's so similar to that. It's the exact same. But mine doesn't have the writing up. Yeah, yours looks a little newer. You gave me the cheap one. But anyway, Dana, you'll have to. You'll have to come out with me and Eddie one day. It's. It's complicated.
B
I'd like to be a fly on the wall.
C
Or just listen to music. I'd love to listen to the Beatles with, With Dana.
B
Are you kidding? I. That would be a dream. I'm so. I'm not alone in this, but I'm equally as possessed as Conan o' Brien or JJ Abrams or my brothers.
A
How can you do it? How can you be around Paul? It's just too.
B
I, I just think that what happened in that renaissance decade and I, I love their early stuff because they. People say, well, later on they got better. I go, no, no, no. For they were the best two minute pop band in history. Then, then those guys extrapolated into Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane as a. A, A double A side single. So I, I can't ever wrap my mind around. Don't even get me started on the Beatles. But, but crazy. I, I just, you know, I, I.
C
Did you. Did you just by random chance, did you hear the Ringo is nice enough to come play. We were talking about that solo record a minute ago.
B
Yeah, yeah.
C
Earthlings. And Ringo came. We were thinking, well, this really needs, like a Ringo type thing. And then Andrew Watt, next thing you know, had him on the phone. We were going over to his house to have him play it. And it was. It was. It was so crazy because it literally. Right before our eyes. And he's such a young presence and energy anyway, but he. He looked like he was 25 years.
A
Old, you know, certain style. And you go, oh, my God. Unmistakable.
B
Yeah, he's got that shoulder roll. And he didn't always go for the splash. He loves the Toms. And he gets in the pocket and this. I don't even know this is true, but you maybe would tell me. So Andrew Wyatt was at the SNL party and Jimmy Fallon's there, name drops, you know, and they're going, we're big Beetle fans. We're talking about Abbey Road, you know, and they're like, oh, yeah, we're big Beetle fans.
A
Abbey Road.
B
And I go, have you heard Revolver? And I think both of them said, yeah, and I'm really familiar, you know, and Android, too. I go, you guys haven't hurt Revolver, and you're Beetle fans. But anyway, that. That blew my mind. But I don't have a favorite. I think every album is just something magical, you know.
C
You know, my uncle had a. A Memorex tape, you know, those strange little cassettes that was like an L and it said. It just said Revolver, White Album. And that was one of my, like, first forays into the heavy stuff.
A
Oh, just to hear it over and.
C
Over, over and over. And I thought it was all one album. Although, you know, White Album and Revolver, that's. That's some. That's a heavy listen. 12 year old.
B
Yeah. Obviously, tomorrow never knows, but Sexy Sadie, Happiness is a warm gun. These are kind of. These Leny. Just what do you ever. You call them?
C
Bungalow Bill.
B
Bungalow Bill.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah. Dear Prudence, Eleanor R. Incredible.
C
Yeah.
B
And your bird can sing two minutes of brilliance, you know, in harmony.
C
Julia. I think Julia's in there.
B
Yeah. There's another Lennon. It's, you know.
A
All right, let's let Eddie go. He seems like a nice guy.
B
Do you have any last words for us?
A
Yeah, Anything you want to tell us.
B
Eddie, before you sum up? Here he comes.
C
Oh, shoot. Well, you know, I will, because I was thinking about Marty and Martin Short, and I know it's. I heard he was magnificent at the service, but I was going to share with you. This funny thing that happened during COVID but this is how quick. We were talking about how quick people are and. But so present company, me excluded. But then Marty. Marty calls up about four months into Covid, just out of the blue, and he says, well, hello, Eddie. I. I was just. I was just checking in, see how my young friend is doing. And he said, how are you, young man? And I said, you know, I'm actually a little frustrated with myself because what had happened when Covid hit and I smoke and drink and. And I thought, oh, Jesus Christ, you know, this is it. If it's a lung thing, it's a respiratory thing. Like, I gotta drop this quick. Like, I'm gonna die from this. Some crazy. So totally quit feeling pretty good. And then about four or five months in, something started happening. I stressed out. Now I'm having a couple smokes, and now I'm having. So Marty said. I said, well, I'm. I'm frustrated with myself. I'm smoking again. You know, I'd quit because of COVID He said, oh, what are you. Are you smoking? Are you talking pot or cigarettes? I said. I said cigarettes. He said, oh, are you still waiting for more literature on that? And that. And that was the last time I ever had a cigarette.
B
Really?
A
Over.
C
Yeah, just like that. Oh, I mean, maybe not really, but it makes for. It makes for a better story.
A
You should never talk to him again because he ended on such a hit. That's a great one.
C
Oh, no, he's full of them.
A
It's true. He's full of them.
B
We love him.
A
One talk show appearance. He's got about 30 of those.
B
He's. He was on my idol list, him and Steve Martin in the 70s. Oh, yeah. Still so. And all.
A
They're still out there doing shows.
B
I know between the two of them, you're like Gervitz.
A
I gotta put them out. There I go, Mark, they're a little old. I don't care. 100 dates a year.
B
Gonna love any better.
A
His money. I'd throw mine away.
C
That's some good Mark Gurvitz right there.
A
We went snorkeling. He's my friend.
B
Who's better than you? Who's better than you? You're handsome.
A
He sat with me on a canoe.
C
This is the thanks he gets. This is the thanks he gets for hosting all these backyard parties.
A
I know. And having all comedians and we all just make fun of.
C
He loves.
B
He wants us to make fun of him.
A
Yeah. It's all right, Eddie. Thanks, buddy.
B
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Episode: "Martin Short Got Eddie Vedder to Quit Smoking???"
Original Air Date: February 19, 2026
Guest: Eddie Vedder (Pearl Jam)
In this engaging episode, David Spade and Dana Carvey welcome rock legend Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam. The trio dives into a vibrant mix of music history, the Seattle scene, memories from Saturday Night Live, and deeply personal conversations about loss, supporting medical causes, and the occasionally absurd interconnections of celebrity life. Highlights include reminiscences about SNL’s 1990s heyday, behind-the-scenes stories about charity events, reflections on musical influence, and, yes—the comedy of Martin Short convincing Vedder to quit smoking.
(10:18–14:33) Eddie Vedder reflects on the Seattle music community’s reluctance toward commercial success, the supportive but understated nature of its scene, and the complex emotions surrounding Pearl Jam's explosive rise.
(14:07) The hosts discuss the rapid ascendancy of bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Metallica, and others in 1991, emphasizing the sense of a 'mini renaissance' in music.
(14:54–18:33) The episode explores Pearl Jam’s early SNL performances. Vedder recalls the awe and weight of playing the show, interacting with iconic cast members, and even being invited to play extra songs due to fewer strong sketches—a rare SNL moment.
(17:36–17:49) Discussions swirl around which cast members were on 'Weekend Update,' with shoutouts to Kevin Nealon, Dennis Miller, and Norm Macdonald.
(20:48–24:04) Vedder and the hosts discuss influences: Neil Young (“Godfather of Grunge”) and Roger Daltrey of The Who, drawing parallels to Vedder’s own emotional vocal style.
(24:24–27:37) An exploration of the creative 'zone'—both in music and stand-up. Vedder tells a behind-the-scenes story: vocals recorded five hours apart, one while drunk, seamlessly merged on the record.
(06:51–09:27) Emotional memories of Catherine O’Hara are shared, from her joy- and laughter-filled presence to her deep impact on friends and fans.
Shout-outs to John Candy, Martin Short, and the 'Canadian' comedy lineage.
(28:17–30:24) Spade, Carvey, and Vedder riff on iconic rock vocalists: Bon Scott, Tiny Tim, Bowie, Steve Perry, Sting, and more. Personal stories about Sting’s lesser-known German collaborations arise.
(30:32–30:38) Comic aside regarding meeting Stewart Copeland and Ringo Starr at a birthday bash, underscoring the wild intersections of music and comedy worlds.
[13:53] Eddie Vedder (on Seattle):
"To be honest, there was a real thing in Seattle where ambition was kind of looked down upon."
[16:46] Dana Carvey:
"You got three songs. That is so rare...I thought, holy, look at this spoiled dude!"
[21:00] Eddie Vedder (on Neil Young):
"The sound of his amp up close…like standing next to an erupting volcano…"
[33:31] Eddie Vedder (on the EB doc):
"This film…it’s really full of [heroes] because you see how heroic and courageous these kids are..."
[52:16] Eddie Vedder (on SNL):
"Well, the thing is, I agreed to work with you, and then next thing you know, they had me dressed up as a pirate."
[57:26] Eddie Vedder (on The Beatles):
"My uncle had a Memorex tape…it just said ‘Revolver, White Album.’ And that was one of my first forays into the heavy stuff."
[60:35] Martin Short (as recounted by Vedder):
"Oh, are you still waiting for more literature on that?"
[60:44] Eddie Vedder:
"And that was the last time I ever had a cigarette. Really."
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 06:51–09:27 | Tribute to Catherine O'Hara and rare comedy community bonds | | 10:18–14:33 | Discussion on Seattle scene, grunge, ambition | | 14:54–18:33 | SNL memories, iconic 1991 albums, and breaking onto TV | | 20:48–24:04 | Musical influences: Daltrey, Neil Young, the 'zone' | | 31:34–43:18 | The fight against EB, Netflix doc, and medical philanthropy | | 51:00–54:38 | SNL crossovers, sketch near-misses, performing on stage/TV | | 46:33–50:46 | The Song Sung Blue story, supporting fellow artists | | 55:03–58:24 | Beatles fandom, Ringo’s drumming, memories of musical discovery | | 58:40–60:50 | Martin Short’s quick-hit that ended Vedder’s smoking habit |
This episode is quintessential "Fly on the Wall"—a blend of comedy, showbiz stories, and sincere humanitarian advocacy. Eddie Vedder brings wisdom, warmth, and surprising vulnerability. The chemistry among the hosts and guest is palpable, oscillating between irreverent humor and moments of true gravity. For fans of music, SNL, and the weirdly beautiful interconnectedness of the entertainment world, this is a must-listen.