RE-RELEASE - Paul Rudd

Summary

Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade — RE-RELEASE: Paul Rudd
Aired: February 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode is a re-release of Dana Carvey and David Spade’s entertaining, free-wheeling conversation with beloved actor and comedy icon Paul Rudd. The hosts and guest riff on Rudd’s unusually varied Hollywood path, share SNL war stories, deconstruct comedy, go deep on their mutual Beatles fandom, and relive memorable moments from Rudd’s career, ranging from hosting SNL with Paul McCartney to cult classics like “Wet Hot American Summer.” The episode is packed with humor, inside-showbiz tales, and genuine admiration among the participants.

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Main Discussion Themes & Key Moments

1. Paul Rudd's Career Trajectory & Early Days

• Clueless to Ant-Man: The Ageless Star
  • The hosts marvel at Rudd's perpetual youth and versatility: “He gets to do both…drama and funny.” (David Spade, 01:33)
  • Discussion of his career’s unexpected trajectory from “Clueless” and “Halloween 6” up to becoming a Marvel superhero.
• Getting Into Movies and First Paychecks
  • Dana asks when Rudd first "felt rich" and about his first substantial paycheck.
  • Quote: Dana highlights Hollywood’s reality: “It takes a long time to build up to something that’s substantial, even though you're a big movie star…hard to negotiate that.” (02:03)
  • Rudd shares it definitely “wasn’t Clueless or around then,” acknowledging substantial pay only came much later, likely around the Marvel films. (69:03, 69:21)

2. Writing Marvel’s ‘Ant-Man’ and Comedic Influence

• How Rudd Became a Writer on ‘Ant-Man’
  • Rudd explains the chaotic script development, Edgar Wright’s departure, and how he and Adam McKay wound up rewriting the film:
    “Adam and I kind of holed up in a hotel room for a couple months and then just really tried to cruise through that.” (Paul Rudd, 04:30–05:28)
• On Comedy in Marvel
  • Rudd describes how ‘Ant-Man’ intentionally felt different inside the Marvel universe:
    “They kind of existed even though they were part of that Marvel Universe, they existed in their own space and they were a little smaller.” (08:26)
  • Reveals Kevin Feige, head of Marvel, is a huge Tim & Eric/On Cinema fan, leading to obscure comedians getting cameos in “Ant-Man.” (08:27–09:40)
• Improvisation & Creative Freedom
  • On working with Judd Apatow and others: “There does seem to be a lot of improvisation…certainly with the way Judd works. We’re all kind of working on things together.” (Paul Rudd, 05:49)

3. Rudd’s Experiences on SNL

• Five-Timers Club and Favorite Sketches
  • Paul recalls the surreal nature of hosting SNL multiple times.
    “The first time I hosted was I think two weeks…after my father had died, so I was in this state of complete…grieving, but I was also…half there. But I was so excited to host SNL.” (Paul Rudd, 38:04)
• SNL Behind the Scenes
  • Technical challenges: Reading cue cards, pausing for cameras, feeling pressure as a host. “Nobody ever tells you, ‘this is how you should really read the cue cards…wait for that camera…’” (Paul Rudd, 36:10–36:47)
  • Favorite recurring bits: Rudd highlights the "Kissing Family" sketches, the tension and earnestness that made them fun, and working with Fred Armisen. (30:07–31:49)
• SNL Musical Guests
  • Hosting with Beyoncé, Paul McCartney, One Direction—tells the story of Paul McCartney’s impromptu piano performance at SNL rehearsal:
    “He just started playing The Long and Winding Road…I was standing 10ft behind…that’s him, that’s the guy who made this…” (58:59–59:51)
• The COVID-Canceled Episode
  • Details how his fifth hosting gig was disrupted: show canceled the same day due to the Omicron variant, leading to a partially restructured episode with Tom Hanks, Tina Fey, and others. (51:27–54:10)

4. On Set with Icons: Only Murders in the Building

• Rudd describes working with Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Meryl Streep:
  “I can’t think of anybody I’d be more knocked out by…Steve Martin since the moment I ever realized people could make a living talking, I was so obsessed with him.” (27:06–27:31)
• Shares about feeling starstruck when saying goodbye to Meryl Streep—awkwardly kissing her on both cheeks. (29:10–29:41)

5. Reflections on Comedy, Friendship, & SNL Camaraderie

• The group discusses the bonds and awe among comedic talent, and how genuine admiration shapes comedic collaborations.
• Dana and Spade reflect on surprising sketch successes and the technical quirks that decide which sketches land with audiences and which fade away. (49:19–50:41)
• Dana: “Being host is, generally speaking, so much harder…because you’re in everything.” (39:22–39:33)

6. The Magic of The Beatles

• Deep-dive into mutual Beatles obsession, including Fred Armisen’s ongoing bit about discovering the band and the ineffable power of their music.
  • “They’re not the greatest band that has ever existed—they’re the greatest band that ever will exist. They are like Shakespeare…Mozart….they redefine that kind of beauty.” (Paul Rudd, 60:04)
  • David Spade shares he owns John Lennon’s glasses, and they muse about how no one (even Dennis Miller) can “wrap their mind” around the Beatles’ genius. (63:21–64:43)

7. The Business of Acting & Artistic Choices

• Rudd’s Philosophy on Projects
  • Has rarely chosen roles for money; credits his “artistic North Star” as being influenced more by musicians’ careers (Tom Waits, Elvis Costello) than by traditional acting. (73:08–75:47)
• On Commercial Offers
  • While open to commercials (“Totally fine…I would do any commercial”), he always tries to make “artistic decisions” whenever possible. (72:13–73:28)
• Desire for New Challenges
  • Would love to work with directors like Scorsese or Tarantino; open to more dramatic and varied roles in the future. “I would certainly like to do things I haven’t done.” (77:43–78:59)

8. Personal Quirks & Humor

• Paul reveals his penchant for using a label-maker, showing off his labeled AirPods case (numbered for organization). (76:48–77:01)
• Dana asks about tidiness at home, and Rudd self-identifies as the more meticulous one.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Marvel Fandom:
  “I would go outside and people would just yell, ‘Ant-Man!’…and it’s such a global thing.” (Paul Rudd, 12:08)
• On Awards Show Gifts:
  “I got a call…Bill Hader called me: ‘You want to know who your musical guest is? …Paul McCartney.’ And I just couldn’t go back to sleep.” (Paul Rudd, 40:11–40:21)
• On the Beatles:
  “It’s divine. I don’t think they’re the greatest band that has ever existed—they’re the greatest band that ever will exist.” (Paul Rudd, 60:04)
• On Making It in Showbiz:
  “Sometimes you have to [take a money gig]…I could certainly point to a couple on that résumé…But 97–98% of my decisions have been because I really thought it was something I wanted to do.” (Paul Rudd, 73:28–74:39)
• On Hosting SNL:
  “Nobody ever tells you how to read the cue cards or wait for that camera…over the course of hosting a few times, [I] started to pick [it] up.” (Paul Rudd, 36:10–36:47)
• On Comedy Bonds:
  “I’m such a fan…to see all of this stuff kind of in person and then get to do it with them, it’s pretty mind boggling.” (Paul Rudd, 44:26)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro/Paul’s SNL legacy: 01:20–03:59
• How Rudd became a writer on ‘Ant-Man’: 04:17–05:28
• Improvisation and writing process: 05:49–06:03
• Marvel & comedy fan in-jokes: 08:26–10:07
• SNL hosting + musical guests: 38:04–41:00, 58:59–60:29
• Awkward moments with legends (Meryl Streep): 29:06–29:41
• The Beatles & Paul McCartney at SNL: 58:59–64:43
• Artistic choices and resisting money gigs: 73:08–75:47
• SNL technicals and sketch successes: 36:10–37:43, 49:19–50:41
• Career advice/future hopes: 77:43–78:59

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Conclusion

This episode is a goldmine of comedic insider knowledge, heartfelt and hilarious moments, and industry insights. Rudd, Carvey, and Spade’s rapport makes for a warm, often irreverent but always sincere look behind the showbiz curtain—whether they’re sharing SNL war stories, trading impersonations, philosophizing about art, or geeking out over the Beatles.

Standout Listeners’ Moments:

• Paul McCartney’s impromptu SNL piano set (58:59)
• Rudd’s reflections on sketch comedy and SNL hosting highs and lows (38:04–39:46)
• The label-maker reveal (76:48)
• Beatles super-fan mutual fawning session (60:04–64:43)

A must-listen for comedy fans, SNL history buffs, and anyone fascinated by the ever-likeable Paul Rudd.

Transcript

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[David Spade]

Paul Rudd.

[Dana Carvey]

Paul Rudd, who's. Who's kind of the ageless movie star of our times.

[David Spade]

Yeah, there is something weird about that. He's so. He's a good looking youthful glow.

[Dana Carvey]

Yes. And he's. And funnies.

[David Spade]

He gets to do both. He gets you drama and funny and I think he's a five timer over there at SNL hosting and obviously he was Ant man but he's in the Marvel Verse or whatever it's called and he does a lot of stuff. He was in Friendship, a movie that just came out. What a good time. He comes, he likes to come and have some laughs and he's excited to meet you.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, we, you know, I calmed him down. I go look, I'm just a person. Anyway, he, we talk about his career. I remember asking him this question. When, when did you feel rich or what was your first big paycheck? You know. And that was. He had an interesting answer for that. Takes a long time to build up to something that's substantial. Even though you ah, big movie star, you know, it's hard to negotiate that.

[Paul Rudd]

Spoiler alert.

[Dana Carvey]

It was the Queen Mary and he has a really cool Paul McCartney story.

[David Spade]

Oh that's right.

[Dana Carvey]

Which you know me, I can talk about anything.

[David Spade]

Beadley forever. All right, let's let him tell it. Here he is, Paul Rudd.

[Dana Carvey]

Five time. Yeah, remember the five Time hosting club yeah, we're gonna go over a clueless. He launched pretty fast. Yeah. Halloween, Halloween 6. I was in Halloween 2. Stacy Dash was in Moving. I was in moving, so 6 degrees.

[Paul Rudd]

I read for moving.

[Dana Carvey]

For real and you're moving? Yes. You move a lot.

[Paul Rudd]

No, I read for the movie moving and they said, we're trying to get Dana. And I said, oh, fuck.

[Dana Carvey]

For the schizophrenic guy who takes. Who does. He goes crazy and takes Prior's car across. Okay, Paul, did you read for that part?

[Paul Rudd]

No, I didn't. You know, I was still in college. I remember when it came out and it was very exciting, but I never, you know, I was just still in school. I never. It was, it was a little bit before my, my time in the industry.

He turns down movies right now that's all you do is turn down movies.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. It's a, it's a daily occurrence. I mean, all the stuff I'm turning down.

[Dana Carvey]

They used to call Kevin Klein. Kevin Decline. I don't know. That was. I don't know. They call Paul Rudd. But what. I got exhausted. This is quite a resume.

[Paul Rudd]

I know, it's like, where do you start?

[Dana Carvey]

It seems like a dream. If I had a kid come out of college, I would really.

[Paul Rudd]

There's no declining there. It's. Yeah, I'll do it, sure. Great.

[Dana Carvey]

All quality work.

[Paul Rudd]

Where do I sign?

[Dana Carvey]

You know, you, you produce, you co write. You co wrote the sequel to Ant man, is that right?

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, yeah, the first one and the second one. No, I didn't write that one, but I did.

[Dana Carvey]

So they come to you as an actor and then they say. And then you say, well, I'd like to co writer. They offer it or how does that.

[Paul Rudd]

No, it would just kind of happened. It, it. You know, the. When Ant man first started, I was cast in that movie by Edgar Wright, who was the original director, and there was a script and then they wanted to do something else and then there was another script that they had hired from. They had written another person or another two people I don't know had written another script. Edgar left the project. There was another script that came along and it just seemed like it was a little all over the place. And when we were looking at other directors, Adam McKay came in and then he and I were talking. We were talking about what we could kind of do with the movie and then they hired us to write it, the two of us. So Adam and I kind of holed up in a hotel room for a couple months and then just really tried to cruise through that. But he's such a great. I mean, you know, McKay, I would.

[Dana Carvey]

Say the two of you in a room writing and making your choices. No wonder it was a hit. I mean, Adam is brilliant. You're. I don't think I was not aware, but now I look at all the hits you've had. I'm assuming you had a hand in all of it. Sometimes you're a hired actor, but you seem like you'd say to Judd Apatow, you know, how about if I do this?

[Paul Rudd]

I don't know.

Well, I think you guys know. Yeah. The way I think we've worked with a lot of the same people. There does seem to be a lot of improvisation or every, you know, a kind of a collective effort on, you know, certainly with the way Judd works. We're all kind of working on things together.

[Dana Carvey]

And do your Judd.

[Paul Rudd]

That's all.

[David Spade]

Oh.

[Paul Rudd]

Okay. You know, it sounds like he's got a little bit of a. Yeah, he needs to blow his nose.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, this is great. I love your idea. This is a bookmark impression I've worked on. I really love your idea.

[Paul Rudd]

Is that Regis? It's Judd doing Regis.

[Dana Carvey]

All my impressions start from Regis Shandling.

[Paul Rudd]

Anyway, are you ready for this?

[Dana Carvey]

Did she say, what's with the Shanley?

[Paul Rudd]

My job was.

[Dana Carvey]

That was.

[Paul Rudd]

That was my Judd as Regis.

[David Spade]

Oh.

[Dana Carvey]

As Regis.

[Paul Rudd]

Just looking good.

The diaries of Shandling. I don't do. That's my.

[Dana Carvey]

That's so great. I love that. That's like, my Biden always ends with Pirates of the Caribbean. Just makes me happy. Says people. It's not inflation. A Paris. Paris. The proper Pirates of Caribbean. So the idea that your Regis always ends with Shanley.

[Paul Rudd]

It always ends with Shut.

[Dana Carvey]

Apatow doing is great. Yeah. That's the kind of. Yeah. I'm a bigger fan.

[Paul Rudd]

Well, Paul, I know Dana's kind of screwing around, but I'm doing an interview here. Oh, Paul.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay. You did Walter Cronkite.

[Paul Rudd]

Yes, I'm actually. When I saw Ant Man, I don't see all the Marvel ones because part of me is, you know, obviously a little jealous. But some of it is like when you.

[Dana Carvey]

When you have.

[Paul Rudd]

Well, when you have to. I can't help it. But when you have to please the whole world, it's still different than doing an artsy movie or, like, you know, maybe even anchorman or movies that are just to, like. This is fun for just comedy fans that kind of like the joke on the jokes kind of stuff. And then when you do something that's for the world, it's probably gets a little watered down because, you know, it's got to be for everybody and that's just the way it is. And they do well.

But.

But when I saw Ant Man, I was surprised that it was. Had so many clever moves to it that by the time it ended, I thought, during it, I thought, oh my, this might be a phase. But then it held all the way through and that made me go see the second one and the same thing happened and I thought, oh, that's cool. Because this Ant man wasn't probably one of the ones that was the biggest ever that they were going to make, but turns out to be one of the funniest and best ones.

Well, thanks, man.

For real. For real.

It did seem like it was a little. Those ones were a little different than the rest. I mean, they kind of existed even though they were part of that Marvel Universe, they existed in their own space and they were a little smaller. And, you know, the whole thing really is run by Kevin Feige, the guy who does, you know, who orchestrates kind of most of that Marvel Universe. And Kevin Feige's actually a. He's a pretty big comedy fan and a lot of the stuff that he likes and I, you know, I got to know him while we were making these is really kind of abstract, funny, not, you know, particularly crowd pleasing stuff. And I remember we were in Atlanta filming. I think it was this. It was either the first or second Ant Man. I don't remember. No, it would've been the first one. And Tim and Eric were on tour and I went to go see him and Kevin went with me and we went backstage afterward and he'd never met Tim Heidecker. And here's the head of Marvel kind of fanboying out on Tim Heidecker because he just loved all the crazy stuff he was doing. And he's actually in the second Ant man. And in the first one, Greg Turkington, who plays Neil Hamburger for those real deep comedy fans and does On Cinema at the Cinema with Tim Heidecker. He's in the first Ant Man. So there's a big contingency of On Cinema at the Cinema fans. Kevin being one of them. The layers of the onion go deep.

That's nice, though, because also those days when you know someone's come to the set that you kind of know or something, that's always a fun day on the set.

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Did you and Adam McKay ever write something and you said, let's just put it in. They're never gonna go for this. And then they were maybe surprised.

[Paul Rudd]

I remember. I don't know of anything that they went. They went with. I remember we thought, oh, this would be cool. Like, in the first one, we thought, oh, you know, it's. We were also kind of trying to retain or. Or go with what we read in Edgar's version that he wrote with a guy named Joe Cornish that we thought was great. And there's this heist movie, but we put in this idea that, like, what if he does a test run and actually accidentally fights an Avenger? That would be really cool. And we were laughing about it, and we put it in and we did wind up shooting it. But I think in the second one, we talked about the villain being kind of this thing that went from person to person. We loved the idea of having Nathan Fielder be the bad guy because it just seemed like a really weird choice and funny.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

But then when you're. And then it would hop from person to person, and I guess when your villain is an invisible gas, it doesn't. They don't really feel like they're going to make that movie. I remember we liked that idea. I think most of the ideas that we had that we really liked didn't get made.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, okay. Well, we sound a little bit bitter.

[Paul Rudd]

No, no, not at all.

[Dana Carvey]

You're lucky.

[Paul Rudd]

I do still want to see Nathan Fielder as a villain in a movie.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah, that's a perfect choice. Nathan, for you. That's the name of the show, right?

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, yeah, that was, by the way, I think, one of the funniest shows of the last two decades.

[Dana Carvey]

Yes, I totally concur. So you do Ant man, and you're how big? So you're already a superstar. I'll just say it. Or a big star. I'll say it. Then you're in a Marvel thing. And how does that. What's that like? It's like your fame went to this other idea. Right.

[Paul Rudd]

The whole thing was and is strange because it's not really. I never saw that coming. I certainly didn't imagine that years later I would still be kind of doing something like this. I was never a comic book reader. That was not my world, really. And while it's been an amazing thing to be a part of for sure, the whole thing kind of, over time just. It became so much bigger and a bigger thing in my life where I would go outside and people would just yell, ant Man. And that, you know, and it's such a global thing. Marvel.

You know, when you Go to the airport. I just had this when I went to Wisconsin. The people that aren't fans, but they have pictures and all these, you know, Funko pops to sign on.

Yeah.

And they literally like hate me, but they want me to sign everything. And then the second I stop signing, they hate me worse. It's just the weirdest thing that's turned into, oh, my God, I have fans. And then, oh, it took me a while to figure out these aren't fans at all. They just sign. Any case.

They're just. Yeah, that's. That's it. That's true. That's.

[Dana Carvey]

They're like trading baseball cards and they.

[Paul Rudd]

All hang out at the airport. It's a weird thing.

Yeah. And I got, I got. They were at the gate, Dana. In Wisconsin. I go, I go, I go, I'll sign one each of these things.

[David Spade]

But what.

[Paul Rudd]

Which then they hate me immediately. But then I go, just, how do you know what my flight is? How do you know anything?

Right?

And they're like, nah, nah, it's all cool. I go, no, but you're at the gate. And then they, yeah, no matter how many times they say no, they walk all the way down to baggage and then they still hold them out and I go, did I change my mind? Last five seconds. And then they go all the way to my car. And then I get mad and it's always weird because I'm not in a Marvel movie. I'm just like. I just. I don't get it. And then you're not. You don't even like me. What are we doing?

[Dana Carvey]

They manipulate me by saying, you're nicer than Spade. Yeah. I just keep going, I am.

[Paul Rudd]

No, I'm nice to other people, not them.

[Dana Carvey]

No, I'm nice.

[Paul Rudd]

I'm nice to.

I would imagine there you get. No, there are fans there. They want you like a Joe Dirt poster.

Or don't you rack your brain for another one?

Like all that stuff you.

Yeah, you get Emperor's New Groove. Yes.

What's that?

Emperor's New Groove.

[Dana Carvey]

It's a David's animated hit. Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

Oh, Paul, I don't want to over talk about it, but you know, when we started that.

Oh, what was it like on Groove?

You know, was on it at first with me. Hey, how's it going, Owen Wilson?

[Dana Carvey]

You know, we could, we could go to Argentina and go surfing if you want to.

[Paul Rudd]

Hey, all right.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, there you go. Now I used.

[Paul Rudd]

You know what? I worked. I love Owen Wilson. There was a moment when you're around it, you kind of can't help but fall into an Owen Wilson voice.

[Dana Carvey]

Hey, he's so different. It reminds me of. Well, there's. There's Woody Harrelson, Billy Bob Thornton and Owen Wilson just seem to have this different frequency. The way they're navigating life. They talk weird, they say things different, but they're so charming. You know, let's.

[Paul Rudd]

They say everything at kind of their own speed, their own vibration. And Owen is a really. I mean, like, he's brilliant. He's a really smart guy.

Oh, yeah.

And we worked on this movie together, and there was this scene that we were talking about what the definition of love was to us, our characters. And we kept doing it over and over again. And then the next day he said, I remember this article I read in the New Yorker, and It was from 10 years ago or something, and he had found a copy of it and printed it out. I thought, who remembers an article they read in the New Yorker that was somehow applied to the scene that we were talking about?

Yeah, I'm shocked he has a printer.

[Dana Carvey]

Did he have a definition of love? I'm trying to. If someone asked me that, I'm not sure.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, I think the. Owen is a. It's Owen. And then a door opening.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah.

What is Owen turning into Regis Philbin? Sound like.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, are you ready for this? We could go surfing in Argentina. But I sent him a. With my phone painting that I did. He goes, we got another Basquiat on our hands. He's a big art collector and extremely well red. Yeah. And Billy Bob Thorton is his own other lane. You know, he talked about the 2016 election. All he said to me was, we got some John Wayne going on. Just stuff like that. Just taking the whole election and distilling it.

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[David Spade]

The Emmy winning comedy Scrubs is back to ABC with a fresh Pulse. It's been 15 years since we've checked in with the gang at Sacred Heart Hospital. The beloved original cast Zach Braff, Donald Faison and Sarah Chalk scrub back in older and maybe wiser Judy Reyes, John C. McGinley also reprised their iconic roles. And Scrub fans, you'll be thrilled to see some of your fan favorite characters pop up, though we can't reveal any names just yet. After creating hits like Ted Lasso and Shrinking, executive producer Bill Lawrence has put together a diverse, talented group of writers to bring to life the Scrubs universe of today. And there's a healthy injection of super funny, colorful new characters, including a fresh group of newbie interns and co workers sl nemeses like Vanessa Bayer and Joel.

[Dana Carvey]

Kim booster the new season of scrubs Wednesdays at 87 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu.

[David Spade]

The Emmy winning comedy Scrubs is back. The beloved original cast, including Zach Braff, Donald Faison, Sarah Chalk, Judy Reyes and John C. McGinley scrub it back in at Sacred Heart Hospital for all new hilarious and heartfelt stories. And there's a healthy injection of colorful new characters, including a fresh group of newbie interns and co workers slash nemeses. Vanessa Baer and Joel Kim booster the.

[Dana Carvey]

New season of scrubs Wednesdays at 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu.

[David Spade]

All right, we got Chelsea Handler. Chelsea Handler, old friend, old friend of the show. I see her out and about a lot. Always funny. Just did the critics Choice awards. We talked to her and she was of course on fire, getting.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, she's a, she's a pistol. She's got a lot of energy. She says what's on her mind. Very funny.

[David Spade]

Never been shy.

[Dana Carvey]

Never been shy.

[David Spade]

Yeah, we covered a lot. We talked about dating, we talk about stand up tours. Who's filling arenas at these days, all the ins and outs of her life. Had a lot of laughs. Anytime you have a just straight up comedian on, we have a lot of laughs.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, we started laughing the minute we started and it went all the way through.

[David Spade]

So here she is, Chelsea Handler.

[Dana Carvey]

Chelsea Handler.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[Paul Rudd]

Oh, they're amazing. Yeah, they're the greatest.

[Dana Carvey]

I know. That's like a dream job to be on a set with those two guys, right?

[Paul Rudd]

It is, yeah. I mean, you know those guys and it's just so. It's so fun to be in the room with them and to see them just kind of interacting with each other because obviously they are best friends, they love each other and it's a series of non stop insults. But you know, for someone like me, I mean, I can't think of anybody I'd be more kind of knocked out by. Steve Martin from, you know, since the.

[David Spade]

Sure.

[Paul Rudd]

I think the moment I ever realized people could make a living talking, I was so obsessed with him.

I saw him in the 70s, I.

[Dana Carvey]

Saw him at the boarding house in the 70s and he was just magic right away. His stand up when.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah. And he recorded some of those albums at the boarding house.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. 300 seats, kind of old.

[Paul Rudd]

And I could recite those albums. I don't know why he was. Same thing Paul. I was one of the first ones I locked into and I just couldn't get enough.

Yeah. And I know. And you are the same. It's like as soon as, as soon as you start hearing one of those routines. I still remember every intonation, every line. And I found that to be kind of true with a lot of people kind of in our generation, you know, that, that. And I've talked about it with Judd or some of these other comedians that those records that he put out and. And Steve Martin Stand up and were so kind of instrumental in forming senses of humor and. And everything else. I can't imagine anybody else in my life that had probably more of an impact so now on me. So now to be like sitting in the room with them.

Sure.

And talking with them. It's amazing. And Martin Short, I mean, I don't think there's a.

We've had that fun.

[Dana Carvey]

We all, we all give it up to Martin Short.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, I know everyone does.

[Dana Carvey]

As far as just funny, no one's anti Martin Short.

[Paul Rudd]

But you got Selena, you got. Also I saw a photo yesterday, very photogenic, beautiful Meryl Streep.

[David Spade]

So it's her too.

[Dana Carvey]

So it's Meryl Streep.

[Paul Rudd]

So it's kind of like.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, it really is.

[Paul Rudd]

I know. It's. I. I still can't quite wrap my brain around it. Yesterday was the first day we filmed, and it was kind of a big scene, and it was the first day that we were all there, and I. And I was just panicked. I mean, I'm like, oh, don't forget any of my lines. Don't. I was.

[Dana Carvey]

Have fun. Try too hard. Don't. Yeah. I mean. Right. It's just the pressure.

[Paul Rudd]

And then. And then. And then. And then when I was leaving, Meryl Streep, I'd met before, but I don't know really. I mean, I'm so kind of. I mean, I'm.

[Dana Carvey]

She's a freak. In a good way. She's a freak.

[Paul Rudd]

She can't. She was, like, saying goodbye. She kissed me on the cheek, and I kissed her on both cheeks like we were in Paris. It was so weird. She didn't say anything, but I was so. I didn't know how to behave because I was so.

[Dana Carvey]

So you literally went so starstruck.

[Paul Rudd]

Started branching her, and I was, like, driving home, and I thought. I kissed both of her cheeks. I feel like an idiot.

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

What do I do? Maybe it's because all the classic kissing sketches, which I don't know how many you've done, but they were, like, electrically funny. And I think you were in the very first one, and maybe you did it other times. You hosted the kissing family, the vocal checks. Yes, it was the.

[Paul Rudd]

I was in the very first one, and I came back. I did a few of them. Yeah.

Do you kiss at rehearsal or not?

[David Spade]

Yeah. You do? We. We.

[Paul Rudd]

We did.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

I mean, you really go for it in the.

In front of people, you know?

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Live show.

[Paul Rudd]

But I think. I think so. I think. I think one time I even did it when Jason Siegel was hosting, and I came back and just did the sketch, and I think he. I think he kissed me through this. Might have been during dress. He threw me so hard against the wall, the whole set almost fell, like, the wall.

[Dana Carvey]

And he's a pretty big guy, right?

[Paul Rudd]

He's a very big guy and a very forceful kisser.

[Dana Carvey]

It's such. There's a little bit of tension around it. It's irresistible not to not laugh because it's like the characters are doing it. And also, Paul Rudd is French kissing Fred Armisen.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah. It's just the thing that would always. And I says, this is what I remember the most from it. And it was. And I remembered it in the very first one was Fred always saying, we're vocal checks. And he was like, look, it's not weird. We're just. We're family. We're more just vocal checks. And it was always such an earnest reading that, yeah, we were rehearsing. I started laughing and it was. It was the way. It wasn't the kissing that made, I think, us laugh.

It was funny.

It was Fred going, fred has an.

[Dana Carvey]

Earnest gear in his comedy. When he would do the Californians. And the way he sincerely. No, we took the 101. Just. The whole attitude is so earnest. But I like that gear that he has. It's so original and funny.

[Paul Rudd]

You know, one time, this must have been, I don't know, like 15 years ago, maybe. I was at a. It was. Bill Hader was having a birthday dinner and this. And it was at a restaurant. And we're sitting around across from the. And across the table. Might have been more than 15 years ago, but Bill, Fred was talking about the Beatles and his love for the Beatles. And he just kept talking about the Beatles. And at one point I said, all right, so now if I want to listen to Beatles, what album should I start with? I started asking a question like, I've never heard of the band. And then he started saying, like, they're just these four lads, they're kind of moptops. There's an album. And he would start talking to me because the guy is the master of bit and he'll stick with it. And I won't talk to Fred for months and months. And then all of a sudden I'll get an email and it'll be something about the Beatles. Like, this is the band that I was talking about. And this has now gone on forever. I still get messages every once in a while from Fred updating me on some new things or some things about the Beatles, the band he was talking about that night.

[Dana Carvey]

He's such a musical comic and his rhythms. And we had him on. And once you get going on the Beatles, he knows, you know, the two time to the eighth time in the middle age.

[David Spade]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

He's just. He's a musicologist, you know.

[Paul Rudd]

Did you ever see his. That DVD put out drumming Complicated Drumming techniques with Jens Hanneman?

[Dana Carvey]

Yes. Well, I did see his special where he goes around all the different drum kits and plays different.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, yeah, they had that stand up special, the comedy, just for drummers. But yeah, he put out like a drumming. Oh, God, yeah. It was complicated drumming techniques with Jens Henneman. I remember when My son was really little. He was obsessed with it. He loved drums, but I don't think he got the comedy.

The drums are fun, though.

Yeah, yeah. But it's such a specific kind of thing that he's doing. And I just. God, that was the funniest thing ever.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, when I first saw him do the accent bit at the Largo, so he's going around and he's doing New Hampshire or whatever, and he's. The accents are really good. And then he's getting. I didn't realize in real time, he's getting very specific. Like Bakersfield. I'm from Bakersfield. Like, he's making up accents and it's slowly, slowly burnt, you know, Burns the audience down. When I saw you with Bill Hader and Fred and some of the sketches, I thought, wow, that's just. That's so much fun to be with those two guys.

[Paul Rudd]

Oh, man.

Is that your first. First time was that sort of. The group was Kristen Wiig and those guys. And then when you come back, is it different every time or would sort of overlap?

The first couple times, they were still there. I mean, it actually made it a lot easier because I had a couple of friends on the show and a couple friends that were writers. So I obviously had always wanted to host the show or somehow be involved. And so the first time I got to host the show, it was a little easier because my friends were. A few of my friends were there, Bill being one of them. And then. Yeah, it's been an interesting thing to host over the course of several years, where I think maybe the fourth time or so, I went back and was like, oh, my gosh, it does feel really different because it's new people.

[Dana Carvey]

Maybe it was 2013. By 2013, had Fred and Bill left, because that was your next hosting. 2008, 2010. The third time was 2013. And then maybe Kate McGinnon had come in. I don't know if Kristen Wiggett left and you had Kate McGinn.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah.

I don't know whether or not it was the third time, the fourth. And Kate was there. Yeah, it might have been, I think. Maybe. I don't know. I don't remember exactly.

[Dana Carvey]

Was Keenan Thompson there?

[Paul Rudd]

Keenan. Keenan was there. Keenan was there when you were there.

[Dana Carvey]

I think Keenan is the greatest.

[Paul Rudd]

He was a child actor on the show and then he just stayed on it.

Oh, that guy is an mvp, man.

[Dana Carvey]

He never stumbles a line.

[Paul Rudd]

He just doesn't miss a moment. I mean, every single time, the camera will just, like, cut to him. He's got the perfect still expression. He's just so good.

Takes a while to get that way on that show because you're waiting for a camera to cut to you. Like, you're in a jeopardy. Sketch has to cut to you, and you don't want it too early. You're kind of waiting, and then you do your face.

It's.

[David Spade]

It's.

[Dana Carvey]

It's hard.

[Paul Rudd]

It's really true. Because there are so many little technical things that it just takes time to learn, such as when that camera is cutting to you, you know, you're. Those. Those. Those pauses are unnatural. So you just have to learn those kinds of things. That's something I. I think I, over the course of hosting a few times, started to pick up because I never. Nobody ever tells you, oh, this is how you should really read the cue cards. This is how you really need to wait for that camera. And I was unaware, having not worked on shows really like, oh, yeah, when that light goes on over the camera, wait till you see that in your peripheral vision.

There's another thing. When you do a sketch, Dana, you know this. You get a big laugh at, you know, dress. And then you pause on air, and it doesn't get a laugh, and you look crazy or because there's nothing there but you're waiting. Or you run over it because it didn't get a laugh at dress. And you run over your laugh because you get it. You're like, oh, fuck, I stepped on.

[Dana Carvey]

It's horrible. And if you think you're on camera for whatever reason and then your line just doesn't do anything, and you realize later you weren't on camera. But at the moment, it kind of deflates you for a moment. You know, you think, oh, what did I do? Different than the dress show. It is like trying to catch the wind. I mean, there's. But. But did you get to a point? It took me 80 shows as a cast member, I think, to get comfortable enough to say, I'm consistently having fun. But as a host, you know, what was it like just the second time compared to the first time and the third time? I mean, you feel you seem incredibly comfortable.

[Paul Rudd]

I'm not.

[Dana Carvey]

But you're acting okay.

[Paul Rudd]

I'm not comfortable. Well, you know, the. The first time I was on total adrenaline, and it was so crazy. I remember feeling so exhausted when we finished the dress rehearsal, and then I thought, oh, my God, I have to.

Do this again now.

The first time, I remember that first time feeling that. It was also really weird for me because not to bring things down. But the first time I hosted was I think two weeks or so, almost three weeks after my father had died. So I was in this state of complete, kind of was. I was in, I was grieving, but I was also. Yeah, I was also kind of half there. But I was so excited to host snl. And so the entire experience was just kind of out of body. And I remember when it finished, I thought, how do these people do this every week? Because it was such a. It's such a sprint and all of the quick changes and running around and then the pressure and the stress and all of it, uh, it, the whole thing was, was wild. I was, I had a great time, but it was such a, an emotional experience.

Kind of a beating too.

Yeah, yeah. You wake up with bruises and things.

You don't know what's going on. Everything's moving so fast.

[Dana Carvey]

You're sprinting, you're banging your head. And then they want you to get to a party at 2:00am You've already done an 18 hour day. Paul, over here. What would you like? Yeah, and then you.

[Paul Rudd]

It's amazing.

[Dana Carvey]

It's like ridiculous. You go through all these walls of fatigue. But David and I could tell you that being host is, generally speaking, so much harder.

[Paul Rudd]

Being a cast member. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Because you're in everything.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, you're in everything. And you can be an update. You could be in the cold opening. You do a pre tape.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

Well, it was very exciting. And then the second time I went back, I think, I think it was the second time Paul McCartney was my.

[Dana Carvey]

Yes.

[Paul Rudd]

Was the musical guest. So I mean, holy shit, it was incredible. By the way, the first musical guest I had was Beyonce. Yeah, McCartney. I've had amazing musical acts, so you get to go.

[Dana Carvey]

Ladies and gentlemen, Paul McCartney. You know, so all these dream. Dream State fever I have, I still.

[Paul Rudd]

Have the cue card. He signed it for me and he.

Kept that cue for you.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay, what would you like me to say on it, Paul? I got a call actually.

[Paul Rudd]

It was about one in the morning and Bill Hader called me. I was like, he says, you want to know who. Sorry I'm calling so late, but I have to tell you, you want to know who your musical guest is?

Oh, really?

He said Paul McCartney, and I just couldn't go back to sleep.

God damn. Well, here's your.

This is the guy Fred Armisen was talking about.

[Dana Carvey]

It sounds familiar.

[Paul Rudd]

You had One Direction. You had DJ Khaled out of those musical guests.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

Do you have anyone's number?

I, you know What? I think I had Niall Horan from One Direction.

He works at Urban Outfitters now. No, I'm kidding.

[David Spade]

That's the old spade.

[Dana Carvey]

I would assume that's. That's the Hollywood minute. I don't do that.

[Paul Rudd]

Then we emailed each other a few times. They were great.

Yeah, they were super.

[Dana Carvey]

They're awesome. Cool.

[Paul Rudd]

And it was so crazy because it was like the height of One Direction.

Oh, my God, how crazy.

We were sleeping outside and. Yeah, it was.

And they're mad. You're the one walking out. They're like, where the. Is Harry Styles.

By the way?

[Dana Carvey]

Totally. Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

No, It's hard to get to know. Like, we were told, sort of between the lines, don't talk to the host a lot. Like, don't. You know, you don't want to get in their face when you're a cast member. Other than. Because it's like, when do you get to know each other? During a week? Because, you know, you do read through and you leave and you're sort of separate and you leave. And then in rehearsals, you're sitting around for a little bit so you can kind of bullshit about it while you're in between. We're going to fix something. Give us a minute. Fixing a light. And then you kind of get to know the host a little just because you're right next to them. And then you do this.

[David Spade]

Do this.

[Paul Rudd]

There's the show, but everything's moving a million miles an hour. Then there's a wrap party, and then you feel like this kinship. But you didn't know anyone that well. But it's sort of a good feeling because you went through this. So the next time you host might be more fun because you feel like you've got a base now with everybody.

Right. And you sort of imagine it's different with, you know, with every host.

Yeah.

Because the first time I did it and. And subsequently second, third time, I mean, I've. I've known people on the show and have been friends with people on the show.

[Dana Carvey]

And you do guest spots, too?

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, yeah, I had done guest spots. Yeah. But they're the. The. The idea. It's like, okay, well, that first day they were coming around, giving a pitch, and then I thought, okay, well, I can at least go hang out with my friends and talk about sketches. So, you know, you guys know how that week works. And then if Tuesday comes around you and you go out to dinner with Lauren and a few other people from the show, some hosts will then just go back to their hotel after that dinner.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

I live in New York, but it. So it's like I just have to go home. But also after the dinner, well, I'm going to go back to 30 Rock and help them write, sit with the writers and hang out with my friends and maybe try and come up with ideas. And so I was, I have always been, every time I posted in those rooms and trying to, you know, pitch things or, or help with if people are writing things that kind of go around.

And that is the fun. You know, you sit on some filthy couch and you shoot around ideas and you're like, this could be on national TV in three days. And it's just, you guys are laughing, saying the stupidest shit, going, what if we put that in there? What if we say like the juice. I mean, those sketches, writing them and you hear them in the hallway and you go, this sounds funny.

[Dana Carvey]

Massive procrastination with anxiety. It's getting low. It's two. Okay, it's three. At some point we gotta make its decision. And then it's a fury of like, we'll do this, we'll do this, we'll do this. You know?

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

But whenever I see people with talent, I'm always in awe of them when I see them start to do their thing. Like, Kristen Wiig was kind of shy and just like, hey, what's up? And then she just. All of a sudden, it's like, monster character, super talent. Did you experience that in a way with different cast members where you're like, like, Bill Hader is so shy and Fred Armisen, they're so sweet and shy and soft spoken. When you first meet them, and then they go out there, what the fuck's going on? You know, they're just.

[Paul Rudd]

And you think, how can you be talented? You're quiet and polite.

There are. Well, they. Those guys are comedy savants. I mean, I don't know how. And Kristen, I mean, they're like, genius, really incredible what they do. And, you know, I'm always amazed. And I'm such a fan, such a fan of funny people and comedy and people that have been on that show, fans of you guys. And so like to, you know, see, to see all of this stuff kind of, you know, in person and then get to do it with them, it's pretty mind boggling. Yeah. And to see Kristen Wiig is. She can kind of. She can do everything.

Yeah. To see them in their natural habitat when they get into a character and they're in a sketch and they're cooking, it's really fun to watch everybody Killing it.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

It's also fun, like you said, when you're. When you're kind of in rehearsing a sketch or they're figuring stuff out and you're standing around with everybody.

[David Spade]

Yeah, that's fun.

[Paul Rudd]

It's fun to see cast members who are obviously really close with one another start to do bits.

Yeah, yeah.

The king of it. And so hanging out is hilarious.

[David Spade]

It's a boy.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, we would do that.

[Dana Carvey]

Totally.

[Paul Rudd]

I would try to write people into sketches. I just wanted to hang out with, like, you know what I mean? Just put everyone in because I know rehearsal is kind of boring. They just have the tape on the floor. You don't know where the fucking set is even made yet. And then you're just, blah. They're like, okay, hold on, we got a lighting thing. And then you're just making fun of each other and someone's eating in the corner and. And the pressure is off at that point. It's not pressure. You're just trying to get the blocking down. And it gets harder throughout the week.

[David Spade]

But it's.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, you do. You do Wednesday and you. Hopefully it lands right. Well, that's the read through, right. By Thursday, you run it for the crew and they kind of giggle. There's no sets, first time, second time.

[Paul Rudd]

But you get a feel for it. You get a feel with the crew.

[Dana Carvey]

You get a feel.

[Paul Rudd]

There's a couple laughs.

[Dana Carvey]

By the time the dress show came around on Saturday, I was thinking we got nothing. You know, it'd been beat down. All the rehearsals and all the walkthrough, everyone.

[Paul Rudd]

Did you feel that, like this thing peaked on Thursday?

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah. No one's laughing anymore. We depend on the crew. They've already heard it five times. You're like. And then hopefully sometimes at dress, you're like, damn, this is killing. It's really fun. But then you have to not peek at dress. How did you manage that?

[Paul Rudd]

Well, I just. I just want to try and make my way through it and peeking address and not and not. But that has happened. I mean, there was one sketch that I think, like, repeatedly kept coming back that I always liked and it never made the show. And I think the second or third I said, look, we tried again, but we never got.

If it goes through read through and doesn't get on, it's got a stink on it. Even if there's no. If there's no other reason other than someone just read it wrong and they forgot to the accent and you go, it's no, no, it's just they go, nope. The second time you read, everyone just leans back and you're like, don't you fucking take a dive on this one.

[Dana Carvey]

It's good.

[Paul Rudd]

And it's hard to resuscitate it. Or if it got undress and goes away, there's always that. Well, there's a reason it didn't get on air, so it's hard to resuscitate it.

[Dana Carvey]

And I've had that.

[Paul Rudd]

It went undress, and then it didn't go. But I always loved it.

[Dana Carvey]

Give it a chance. Do you want to share with us?

[Paul Rudd]

It was about the giving tree. I remember it was a dad reading giving tree to his kids, not realizing that it's so sad, and he starts to spiral out and. And then winds up crying and drinking and the cops come to the house. I mean, it just devolves into this. Even now, as I describe it, I'm thinking, no, I see why this didn't make me.

[Dana Carvey]

What was the kid's name in the sketch?

[Paul Rudd]

I don't remember where the kids names were.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm just trying to do an impression of Lorne, not thinking the sketch is going well. At Reading.

[Paul Rudd]

I think maybe Bobby Moynihan might have been one of the kids, but I think maybe a girl was. One of the girls might have been named Susie.

[Dana Carvey]

Susie's sad. Bobby. Bobby sits back. Bobby. Bobby has a tear. And that's.

[Paul Rudd]

This is at Read Threes.

[David Spade]

Reading.

[Paul Rudd]

Stage direction.

Right?

[David Spade]

Yep.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. Sorry. Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

And it's starting, you know, like, this one's not gonna make.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. Sense memory is.

[Paul Rudd]

Has there ever been, like. For you guys, did you ever do a sketch that, like, was the biggest surprise that it was. The sketch killed so hard, and you really didn't see that one coming. Is there one that sticks out for either one of you that.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, I would say. You want to go, David? From my very first snl, I'd never done sketch. And the church lady sketch with Sigourney Weaver and Phil Hartman and stuff moved up to the first sketch, and. And then it really killed. And it really. It shocked me. I'd never had a dress on. I'd done a little bit of the character in my standup, so that was. That was a big surprise.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, I just did one where it wasn't that big of a sketch, but where I was a receptionist, and I kept condescendingly talk to people and go. And you are like. It was like a Hollywood person. Didn't really made people explain their credits. And then it was last in the show and got put to first in the live show and it was Roseanne. Phil came in as Jesus and there was one of the person but it. It killed and it was first one up and that's. That was rarely happening with me. Dana happened every week. But to get the first sketch out was a big one.

[Dana Carvey]

When I did the Pepper Boy with Sandler. Pepper Boy. It wasn't really happening throughout the week. It wasn't really. It did not happen at dress, but we both just went for it hard. Of course we had Farley in there too. The ultimate button. So that crushed on air enough that Sandler called me at 4 in the morning, just said Carvey Pepper Boy. That was it. It's hard to kill in a restaurant sketch in the corner.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

You know it's not at home base, right, Paul? I mean, you know, you hard to time the laughs. You can't quite hear the audience.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

You're kind of off to the side. It's true.

The audience is above you.

Where you're doing the sketch on this, on stage. Makes it a difference.

[Dana Carvey]

Yes. Because you can immediately kind of feel and hear the audience or you're not sure you scored.

[David Spade]

They're watching it on a 12 inch.

[Paul Rudd]

TV in the audience. You know what I mean?

They're like, yeah.

Oh, wait. Because they can't see.

Really interesting point that you don't hear about that often. I don't think where you're actually doing.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, I would have to. When I got used to this process, I would go to where the set designers were. They had a little map of 8H and I'd look at my sketch and I'd see it in the corner and I'd say, could I get this near home base? Or whatever. And they go, well, not. Not if there's.

[David Spade]

What a fucking cheater.

[Dana Carvey]

They go, not if there's an entrance. I said, what if I take the entrance out? Oh yeah, then we can move it here.

[Paul Rudd]

Oh my God.

No kidding. That's fascinating.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh yeah. No, I learned all the treason.

[Paul Rudd]

That's true.

[Dana Carvey]

You gotta do it, you know.

[Paul Rudd]

But what about Please Don't Destroy? That group was really good. Paul. You did one called Good Variant. I saw it was funny as shit. They got a lot of different moves in those things.

Yeah, well, you know, we were supposed to do a version of that. Those guys are great. The fifth time, my fifth time I hosted the show was canceled the day of. It was the. I think it's the only time in SNL history that a show got canceled that day.

And it was because with you and.

Well, Tom Hanks was there. Tom Hanks and Tina were there because they had come in because they were in the monologues. There was a big huge five timer thing.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

And then the show got canceled at about 2 or 3 in the afternoon, but they were already there. So we were trying to come up with a show on the fly. It's really a fascinating thing to see and be a part of. But earlier in that. Earlier that week, I was going to do a Please don't destroy video. A version of the good variant.

Yeah.

But the shoot got canceled because one of the guys got Covid same. And so they had already had a crew and the camera. Everything was set up to film something that night. So we took a sketch and turned it into a. Into a film. And then we filmed that. And then they showed that during the show.

Was it that one or this one?

No, it was the one. HomeGoods. It was a show. It was the one with. With AD and Kate about wanting grandkids and.

Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I remember that one.

Yeah. So that was. That was done in place of the Please don't destroy.

It was Covid closure. Right. And it was Covid.

Yeah. Because happened. It was that week where the really. That omicron variant came back hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people were.

Yeah, everyone thought it was kind of going away and then it came back fucking hard. Around November, December or something.

Yeah, yeah, it was. I mean, it was really tense. And then, you know, we were all going through our testing and then that morning, I remember going in and getting tested Saturday morning.

Crossing your fingers.

Totally. And I remember I got the results of my test. It came back negative and I. I was just jumping for joy. Like, thank God. Perfect. And then. And then the whole thing got shut down.

Can't do without the host. So you get through. And then they shut it down anyway. That's such a drag.

It was a bummer.

And that, that monologue was weird because I hosted for Kimmel once and it was in a house with a monologue with no people. So I said to the crew before we were rehearsing it, I go, you can laugh. They go, oh, we're not supposed to. I go, please God, give me a tiny noise. Anything to play off of, just to dart my eyes around, just to make it feel like there's some life in here. Because just to. Nothing is too hard. So when you did yours, I could hear a little bit of something that must have been crew or writers or something.

Yeah, I think that's what it Was. And you know, Michael Che and Keenan stuck around, but that was it. And, and yes, one of the crew guys. And so there was some laughter and Higgins was there, but it was so strange. It was such a weird feeling that.

[Dana Carvey]

That was one of the weirdest most. I mean, just no audience on Saturday Night Live because.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, no audience and also no real rehearsal. No nothing.

[Dana Carvey]

Nothing.

[Paul Rudd]

And for the hours before the show, it's like, well, what do we do? What? I mean, we have to write something and figure out what it is. And I remember Lauren saying, do you have any Christmas, you know, episode that you really like? And I said, you know, I remember when I was in high school seeing Steve Martin talk about, you know, his Christmas wish and. All right, memorized it and I loved it. Steve Martin and. And so it was great.

We'll dig it up.

It's on, it's in the show.

[Dana Carvey]

Women, you now officially have joined the 70 timer club of someone who does a great Lorne.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, it is so weird. Whenever you are around anybody, doesn't matter when they were on snl.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

People start talking about Lauren. They just start going into, they go right into it.

[Dana Carvey]

So you, you spent a lot of time with Lauren because Lauren spends a lot of time with the host. And also you start. You're a friend. You're the third Paul.

[Paul Rudd]

He likes Paul McCartney. Paul Simon.

[Dana Carvey]

I, I like all the Paul's. No, he's, he's, he's. We love him too. He's, he's, he's an amazing, he's amazing guy.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah. Nobody's ever done what he's done.

[Dana Carvey]

Not even close.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

I mean, 50 years. Are you going to be at the 50th?

[Paul Rudd]

I certainly hope so. Yeah. I mean I would love to. I was at the 40th, which was, I mean, what an incredible.

That was a real fucking.

[Dana Carvey]

I remember we had a little running gig. I just had met you that night or something that was.

[Paul Rudd]

That's exactly right.

[Dana Carvey]

Liked you right away. And I, every time I'd go do something, I'd say to you, I'm going to bring you up. So ridiculous. I'm going to do Wayne's World. I'm going to bring you up.

[Paul Rudd]

That's right.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, that was the, the 40th. But so with Lauren and your relationship, do you have any, I mean, I hate to say, hey, any stories about Lauren, but did you stay all night at the party or do you kind of. Because Lauren will stay till 6am do you kind of go, Lauren, I gotta.

[Paul Rudd]

Go or no, I'll never. I'll never leave early.

Oh, you smoke it out with him. You wait.

Especially if I'm sitting at a table with Lauren. I mean, I will. You know, even recently, I went just to watch the show, and it's like, I'm at that party and it's like the greatest thing. I'm sitting with. I went with Marty and Steve were hosting. And I'm at the table afterward with Martin Short and Lauren. And then of course, I'm in the middle, and I just want to start hearing them talk about Three Amigos, which of course happened. And it's amazing. It's amazing. There are many times that I just kind of step outside of what's actually happening in the moment and say, I cannot. I cannot believe this. Just can't believe it. And there's something like having it on the show with these guys. I had it at that table listening to the Three Amigos stories. I had it when I was hosting SNL and Paul McCartney was the musical guest. And there were many times that week that, I mean, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. And I had that same thing. I did one of those. I did a Lonely island video that week, and Andy and I, they pulled him. Paul McCartney, who did a little thing on it.

I love it.

And we were standing around, the three of us, for an hour, and he was just telling us stories about John Lennon and the Beatles and everything.

[David Spade]

Wow.

[Dana Carvey]

Now I'm jealous.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

I'll tell you one of the. Honestly, one of the coolest things I have ever experienced, ever, was on the Thursday, you know, Thursday, for people that don't know, that's when the band really kind of comes in for the first time and they do their run through. And so we were taking those pictures that they use for the bumpers next to the stage. So Thursday comes in, Thursday happens. The band comes in and we're taking pictures. And Marianne said, we're not gonna take pictures. We have to go watch Paul McCartney. So we did. And he performed, played a couple of songs, and then there was a grand piano on the floor. And he didn't know what he was really gonna play, so he just came down and sat behind a piano. And there's maybe, you know, the crew is there. It's probably about 20 people. And he sat down at the piano and he just started playing the Long and Winding Road.

[Dana Carvey]

Wow. I got chills.

[Paul Rudd]

I know.

And I was standing 10ft, 10ft behind him, you know, and. And I'm just. I hadn't met him. I hadn't I was just kind of observing and like, I couldn't believe I was in the same room with Paul McCartney, but I was standing behind him and I was looking at his hands playing the keys and I was looking at his feet pressing the pedals and hearing him sing Long and Winding Road and thinking, oh, my God, that's him. That's the guy who made this. And those are the foot pedals that he, you know, that he pressed that same way when he recorded it. And it was amazing. It was just amazing. And everyone applauded when he finished. He said, oh, thank you, thank you. Then he went into Lady Madonna and then more people kind of started coming into the room and Lauren came in and he wound up playing about 10 Beatles songs just for us in the room.

[Dana Carvey]

Just piano. Just piano, yeah. You know, how does, how does he come up with those, those middle eights, they call them the change ups and the chord structure and how it just hits you every time. IM and Lennon.

[Paul Rudd]

It's divine. There's no. I mean, I'm. I'm in that. I don't think they're the greatest band that has ever existed. They're the greatest band that ever will exist. They are like Shakespeare. They're like Bach. They're like every Mozart several hundred years, somebody or something comes along that redefines that kind of beauty. And. And I think the Beatles are that. They are for me.

[Dana Carvey]

I couldn't have said that better. That's really well put in. Sheryl Crow said to us that she thought that Blackbird and Yesterday were the greatest songs ever written for.

[Paul Rudd]

For her.

[Dana Carvey]

I. There's so many. That's the thing. They have so many. And she thought it was. She didn't say it in a heavy way. Almost divine. There's almost something like, how did those two guys essentially go to high school together and then find those other two guys and find George Martin and write a hundred masterpieces in six years. You know, it's crazy.

[Paul Rudd]

And then. And maybe record three of them in one day.

Yeah, yeah. Remember Dana, when he said Dirt? We. We talked to him, Paul, and he said during that get back thing, we were fawning over, you know, the documentary, and we said. He said. He came in with, was it yesterday or.

[Dana Carvey]

And he goes, well, for that one. He did have Long and Winding Road and he had get back. You know, he was in kind of.

[Paul Rudd]

He said, I came with it. And I go, do you walk in like I got a banger? And he goes, no, you can't. You have to go under and Just go, hey, I gotta. I got one if you guys want to hear it. I worked on just to probably just for ego wise, like, let everyone go. Let us find it if we like it, you know. And I think it was either yesterday or some other monster.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, yesterday was a little earlier. But he plays Let It.

[Paul Rudd]

He was.

He, he.

He did.

And they love it.

Let It Be, I think on, on, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah, that was.

[Paul Rudd]

Right. He was playing that. And then, and then, my God, when he sits down, he's playing and he is playing. Get back. And George and Ringo are just sitting across from listening. And Ringo starts clapping his hands to a beat. And you just think. And same thing like I'm. How are we seeing this? This is the first time these guys are hearing this. They don't know what this song is going to be. It's just. It's magical. I couldn't get over that, that I wanted nine more hours. I couldn't believe what I was saying.

[Dana Carvey]

Wow. I mean, I. In my age group, I was, you know, watching them in real time, having older brothers. So I was nine when they were on Ed Sullivan. But I love when I hear someone who probably first heard them in the 70s, late 70s after, because the. The wave was so high and by. They left at 69. I don't think anybody, even them, understood what had happened. Right. And then people like you come along and then younger people keep coming along and we're all trying to figure it out. And Dennis said to me, he doesn't. He can figure out the Stones, he can figure out Pink Floyd. Dennis Miller said he could figure out Zeppelin. And he goes, honest to God, Carvey. I can't wrap my mind around the Beatles, okay?

[Paul Rudd]

It's too much.

I know it's true. Because they have that thing that you can't define. It's something otherworldly. It's why if you play the Beatles for kids now, they cotton onto them. There's just. It's. It's hitting all of us on some kind of level. That is something else. I don't know what it is, but.

I'll show you this thing. I just got Paul. I got Lennon's glasses from that photo.

Oh my God.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, his real glasses.

[Paul Rudd]

Real glasses from that photo.

[Dana Carvey]

Wow. Isn't that sex? Damn. David is holding up a picture of John Lennon and he bought the glasses at an auction. I'm just telling the listeners it was.

[Paul Rudd]

A bit steep, but it was because never see shit like that come along. And I saw it, I was like. And I called the auction place. And he goes, well, it's gonna go up. I said, I gotta try to get in there. And I just got horny for it.

[David Spade]

I was like, it's too fucking cool.

[Paul Rudd]

Because winning your life. Lennon and McCartney and they had proof it was his. And I said, I used to.

[Dana Carvey]

With a friend of mine at some of the SNL parties, everyone's really, you know, just cool. People are coming to the SNL party. Maybe it's Elton John or whatever. And we used to imagine, you know, what if John Lennon could walk in, you know, we were like, who would just. Everyone would just stop. And so, yeah, anyway, I'm with you, Paul, you, me, Fred Armerson and David and whoever else wants to join us. We should have dinner and just fan out on. Try to.

[Paul Rudd]

There are like, I can't. I will talk about the Beatles forever. Just once that subject comes up or if I see a picture or if there's some kind of video clip or something, I Conversation stops.

[Dana Carvey]

I know. I love the unheralded ones kind of compared to we hear Let It Be a lot and hey Jude, they're brilliant. But here, there and everywhere for no, for no one. I mean, no Reply by John Lennon is one of the most heartbreaking pieces of. And Paul maybe wrote the Middle Age. Anyway, back to Paul Rudd, who's a super Beetle fan. You know, David, people keep asking about my 2026 Resolute.

[Paul Rudd]

Res.

[David Spade]

Yes, they do. I one of them. You.

[Paul Rudd]

I know what you're trying to say.

[David Spade]

The people keep asking about your 2026 resolutions. And I've got the usual ones. Read more or read at all.

[Dana Carvey]

Hit the gym.

[David Spade]

Hit the gym. Learn how to crochet, get the knitting. Yeah. But this year the goal at the very top of my list is simple. Get comfy. I've learned that from Abby. Yeah, and that's exactly where Bombas comes in. They're bringing next level comfort to my everyday essentials. Take the new Bomba's sports socks. They're designed with sport specific comfort for everything from running, hiking, golf. That's what I do. Skiing. And I know you want to get back into running.

[Dana Carvey]

I would really want to get back into running, honestly. For sure. I do a lot of hiking.

[David Spade]

Yeah, they're cushioned right where you need it most. Sweat wicking.

[Dana Carvey]

That's good.

[David Spade]

Is that good?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, it keeps the sweat away. Packed with tech that keeps you comfortable and locked in. So comfy socks. It's a great idea.

[David Spade]

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[Paul Rudd]

For things like weekend resets when.

[David Spade]

I'm spring cleaning, when I'm just doing this and that around the house. Honestly, they look very squishy and you wouldn't know this, but it's like walking.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

Thy ticket lady Jennifer of Coolidge. Well, many thanks, good sir. Here is my Discover card.

[Paul Rudd]

They accept Discover at Renaissance fairs? Yeah, they do here.

[Dana Carvey]

Discover is accepted at the places I love to shop. Getth with the times.

[Paul Rudd]

With the times.

[David Spade]

You're playing the loot.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, and it sounds pretty good, right?

[Paul Rudd]

Discover is accepted at 99% of places.

[David Spade]

That take credit cards nationwide, based on.

[Paul Rudd]

The February 2025 Nielsen report. Oh, I have a question about Clueless. He's been in so many monsters like Anchorman and Clues.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

When did you make your first million dollars? Was it around Clueless or around after that?

[Dana Carvey]

No, God wouldn't have been clueless.

[Paul Rudd]

But did you get you paid after that or did it take another five years?

No, no, no, not. Not at all.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm gonna guess.

[Paul Rudd]

Let me see if that was 95. Oh, by the way, we came out 95. And so did Billy Madison. So Clueless, Tommy Boy, Billy Madison. Oh, that was fucking some comedies, my God.

Yeah, yeah. I don't. Way, way, way later, way late. It might have been, like, actually kind.

[Dana Carvey]

Of around Marvel, because it wasn't. You were an ensemble one, so they can't pay everyone that much if you're in a movie with Will Ferrell or Steve Carell or.

[Paul Rudd]

Oh, yeah, yeah, a lot of those.

[Dana Carvey]

So then. Then when it was Paul Rudd's movie, do a little bit better.

[Paul Rudd]

I honestly, I'm just like, I'm just.

Happy to work, of course.

[David Spade]

Well, I know.

[Paul Rudd]

And certainly. And certainly with those guys, I mean, you know, do it for free.

Wet Hot American Summer is a little nugget that's just. That might. I mean, now I don't remember everything about it, but I remember going, this is a cool movie. And we. I. I tried to get that director to do something, I think, because I thought. I go, oh, shit. This is such a weird, funny, cool, low budget, well done. You must hear about that one a lot.

Yeah. I think it was probably partially responsible for me getting cast in Anchorman, honestly, because it was a movie that came out and no one knew it really, but comedy fans and comedy writers really kind of took to it. And I loved it when I read it. It took a while to get it made. No one wanted to make it. But I had met David Wayne and Show Walter and a lot of those guys. They were in a comedy troupe called the State that used to be on mtv and, you know, they lived in New York and I lived in New York and. And I was a comedy fan anyway, and we had some mutual friends, and so I met them and David said, man, this script, if you want to read it. I think I had just done Clueless. I mean, it wasn't that long afterward. And. And I read it and thought, I've never, like, this is the funniest thing I've ever read. And you never get to really read anything that really makes you laugh like that, or. I certainly hadn't up until that point. I felt that way with Anchorman too, but I used to keep that script around and just read it for pleasure because it was so funny.

Well, also to get it from the.

[David Spade]

Script to the screen.

[Paul Rudd]

There's so many ways you can screw it up. I'm sure you know this. I've done a lot of comedy movies, and some just don't connect. By the time you go through all the process and you're like, fuck, yeah. Where did it go wrong? And, well, I think that with that.

It was just like. There weren't many cooks in the kitchen.

Yeah.

And it was. It didn't. It didn't. It, you know, had a very small budget. No one was really paying any attention. And we filmed it at a summer camp, and it was people, everyone that worked on it, I think we all had similar sensibilities, and we found the same things funny and.

So meatballs or something.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

It was like a singular voice. And I remember Zach Orth, the actor that he. A friend of mine that was working on the film, halfway through, said, I don't know if this movie will ever come out. I just want to get a copy of it.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, Very good sign. So I just wonder, you know, when I'm looking at these notes here, you know, studying your career, it's quality. I mean, I don't see any. Any evidence of you taking a role because you needed the money or something. It just seems like there's a consistent theme with you. It's all the way through. You did living with yourself. You executive produce, got a Golden Globe nomination where you played opposite yourself, all kinds of quality work. So were you ever tempted? Have they backed up the Brink truck for commercials? But commercials are totally fine. I would do any commercial. If anyone's listening right now. In the 90s, you weren't supposed to do them. Taco Bell. Sorry. But have you gotten stuff where, because of Paul Rudd, you know, the image that you're like, I'd like to take a lot of money. It's just not for me. You know, you're at that point now where you have to navigate that.

[Paul Rudd]

Well, yeah, I think that I'd say through the, you know, majority of my career, I've always tried to make as many decisions if I had the luxury of making a decision to, you know, to have it be some. An artistic decision and never trying to do anything for the money.

[Dana Carvey]

And that's usually good.

[Paul Rudd]

Sometimes. Sometimes you have to. I could certainly point you to a couple on that resume that say, well, that one I kind of like.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay, well, we'll ignore that.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, no, I would say not. I would say of the decisions that I've made In my career, 97 to 98% of that has been because I really thought it was something I wanted to do and that it had the potential to be something fun or interesting or something I would want to see. And I tried to always have that kind of be my guiding light. When I was in my 20s and 30s and I wanted to be an actor, I really also went a different kind of way. And I always think of bands that I really liked. I would always think of music. Always seemed to kind of be the North Star for me, more so than other actors or acting careers. I would just think of musicians that I liked. And I liked lots of cool indie musicians. And I thought, well, would, you know, would Tom Waits think this is cool? Would he do this? Or would Elvis Costello do this? Would he make this decision? It seemed like all the things that I liked were artistic decisions made by people who I admired. And so I really tried to kind of follow that path with comedies that, you know, I think with Wet Hot American Summer, and then when Anchorman came around, those were two things I really, really wanted to do, because I felt as if, more than anything else I'd ever read up until that point, it spoke to me. And my own kind of what I thought was funny. And I really wanted to be a part of that. And I think that that then turned into working with Jud over and over again. I didn't see much like the Ant man thing. I didn't see that lane coming. I did not expect, over the following many years, to work with a lot of those guys again on a lot of comedies. It still is the most fun. It still is. But it was always. I think I was always following that, like, this would be fun. I think this is funny. I really like these people. I like these actors. I'd love to be a part of this.

[David Spade]

Wow.

[Dana Carvey]

I think the two lanes that explain this. One is what you just said, and the other of never losing a sense of awe and wonder, of this remarkable good fortune. We have to be in show business. And for sure, you meet people that get bitter or kind of angry or whatever, rather than just like, I can't believe we're able to actually do this on any level. I mean, right now, I'm working.

[Paul Rudd]

I think that all the time, even. It's like you're in the middle of some scene and you're just going some improvisation about farts or something. You think, I'm at work right now. This is my job.

[Dana Carvey]

So. Okay, before we. Before we let you get back to your other job. So you. You label things. Kevin Nealon told me you love a P touch, which you make labels, and you love to put labels, and you put labels on everything.

[Paul Rudd]

You have one.

There it is.

[Dana Carvey]

That just organizes my. Organizes your brain to get it labeled.

[Paul Rudd]

These are my AirPods. And by the way, it's my second case. That's why it says number two.

[David Spade]

That's hot.

[Dana Carvey]

All right. So that's. Are you of with your wife and you are. You're the tidy one or, or equally as far as how having the kitchen clean and stuff like that?

[Paul Rudd]

Well, she could be. She's pretty clean. She'll, you know, but I, I think that there's a. There's a level that I will take it. That is maybe a little.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I'm kind of a little too.

[Paul Rudd]

Gene, the anal retentive chef.

Yeah. Oh.

[Dana Carvey]

Do you have any other secret, secret show business dream? I mean, would you want to get direct. Do a Gary Oldman like playing Churchill kind of thing or, you know, or a Scorsese movie where you're a gangster or just whatever comes? I don't know.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah, I, you know, I don't, I don't. You don't have a plan in terms of like a type of role, but I mean, I would certainly like to do things I haven't done and work with many people that, you know, like great directors like Scorsese and there's so many incredible directors.

[Dana Carvey]

If Tarantino wanted you in a film, would you take the call?

[Paul Rudd]

In a heartbeat. For sure.

[Dana Carvey]

That's a good plan. I got obsessed with the last one Once upon a Time in Hollywood. Oh, my God, I saw it so many times.

[Paul Rudd]

It's so good.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, he's great.

[Paul Rudd]

What an amazing director.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

I would jump at the chance. Coen Brothers. I mean, like, it just. Yeah, there's so many. There's so many that you're just gonna say yes.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

Mike Lee. I mean, there's so many great directors. Most people, I think, probably wouldn't think of me for some of these things at this point.

But you're a big star.

I would love to do more kind of versatile, you know, dramatic roles or whatever, but I don't know. I also haven't really tried to, for better or worse, guide my career by thinking, well, I just did a comedy. Now I'm going to do something really dramatic. You know, I think other actors probably do that and it might be smart. I just think, like, oh, that'd be fun.

Yeah. Doesn't always sync up perfectly like that.

No, no. And that's the other thing too, is that people always say, well, why did you choose this and why did you choose that? And I. I want to say, well, you know, you don't always get to choose.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, there's a bit of whimsy to it. Jack Plants told me that once they got all the parts, it's all about the parts. And if you get the parts. Spencer Tracy got. Took that part. I didn't get to do that part. I don't do a Jack Plantz. That's an old reference lost on younger viewers.

[Paul Rudd]

Not at all. You start doing some one arm push ups right now.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah.

[Paul Rudd]

All right. Well, thank you, Paul.

Thank you.

You're a fucking stud.

[Dana Carvey]

It's been really interesting and enjoyed it very much. Yeah. So I feel like I know you a lot better than I did after the 40th.

[Paul Rudd]

I know. Well, this is the great thing. When I see you at the 50th, we're gonna really.

Yeah.

Have a lot to talk about and I'm coming up. If you bring me up on the 50th, I'm coming.

[Dana Carvey]

I'll be so excited to see you. I'll kiss you on both cheeks.

[Paul Rudd]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And then go, what did I just do?

[Paul Rudd]

Plus one.

[Dana Carvey]

Paul.

[Paul Rudd]

Thanks, buddy. Very cool of you to come on and talk.

And thanks for having me, guys.

[Dana Carvey]

Appreciate. Appreciate it. Say hello.

[Paul Rudd]

I really appreciate it.

[Dana Carvey]

Steve and Marty and I. I've never met Meryl Selena. Tell her I love her.

[Paul Rudd]

I will tell her.

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[Dana Carvey]

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[Dana Carvey]

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