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Dana Carvey
I think so. Yeah.
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David Spade
You did pretty good. Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Maniscolco.
David Spade
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Dana Carvey
I'd like to buy a vowel. Yeah. It was so much fun to have him on because he's one of those people. I had to say in the last 10 years when you're just kind of channel surfing on. On these streaming and I saw a special and I stuck with it all the way through because it was new. You know, the physicality and the rhythm of all that stuff. So he is very soft spoken and really humble.
David Spade
The jerkiness, the also how he can go really low on a joke and not scream it, you know. So.
Dana Carvey
Yeah. And the act outs that he does all over the stage. The physical, physical act outs. And we talk about that and an injury that he got based on, you know, he's doing all this stuff.
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Dana Carvey
It's blew out a cab or something.
David Spade
Even on Tik Tok, he's like. He walks around like his kids soccer game and he goes, they're taking a break for a snack in the middle of the G. What? What? What are we doing? So funny. He does this exact act cadence, but in real life situation.
Dana Carvey
That's funny.
David Spade
He's like the Italian dad in real life. We're looking around for those kind of scenarios. Funny.
Dana Carvey
My key to him is always the bit he did by the pool at some hotel. And a guy comes down and he goes. He starts clipping his toenails right on the pool deck. And then he's got bandages on his toes from bandages and he jumps in the pool. I gotta swim with the bleeding bandage. I mean, I'm excited. But it is really next level funny to me.
David Spade
People rehearsing for a wedding reception. It's seven weeks in some guy's basement. They got the bye bye baby. What? What?
Dana Carvey
Huh?
David Spade
I can't get six guys to go to dinner if I give them a year notice. Now I got rehearsed. What? It's all.
Dana Carvey
What?
David Spade
What's going on?
Dana Carvey
Well, he's incredulous. He's the incredulous every man. You know. Funny. Yeah. So anyway, it was really fun. Talk to him. We break down his artistry and his.
David Spade
Path to stardom plays big theaters, lots of specials.
Dana Carvey
Let's talk about very successful and a lot of great acting jobs. Sebastian. The one and only. I was shocked that you guys. You and Pete have done 628 episodes. Just the fortitude. Is that true? Not many said episode 628.
David Spade
Yeah.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Haven't. Haven't made a dime.
David Spade
It's coming. Our guys tell us it's coming right around the corner.
Dana Carvey
Just patience, man. I mean, you know.
David Spade
Oh, you got into this for money.
Sebastian Maniscalco
No, I. I actually didn't. And we just started doing, basically, a phone call. He lives in Fredonia. I live in Los Angeles. We're like, you know what? We have such a great time talking to one another. Let's just record it and we'll put it out there as a podcast. And we. We did it once a week for now, going on 12 years. And, you know, we just have fun doing it. It's not. It's not.
Dana Carvey
Wait a minute. Do you read ads? Do you read ads?
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah.
David Spade
Now you do. Yeah.
Dana Carvey
And still making nothing. I mean, we got. You got master class.
David Spade
You got.
Dana Carvey
What do you got? You got back Doc?
Sebastian Maniscalco
You guys got Zach Deck?
Dana Carvey
Yeah, we dated for a while and we broke up. No, we got.
David Spade
Yeah, we sort of just.
Dana Carvey
They go, blue Nile, right? Blue Nile, our biggest one.
David Spade
Yeah, Blue Nile's good. That's a big one.
Dana Carvey
Diamonds. Yeah. So you got the original wife. Original wife meaning pre.
David Spade
I never even heard of this situation.
Dana Carvey
I. My wife's so attractive that people thought she'd be the second wife. After I got some fame and money, I go, no, original wife.
David Spade
Like, oh, okay.
Dana Carvey
But you had done one special, but you weren't Sebastian at that point.
David Spade
Right?
Dana Carvey
You met 2009.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah, we went in 2009. I had. I was just coming off, actually. Yeah, I was just coming off a special two years earlier, and then, yeah, just, you know, knocking around comedy clubs. She would come with me, Addison Beltline road and improv. And, you know, it was. We kind of came up together in the comedy world. Obviously, I was doing comedy prior to meeting her, but, like, you know, when I started making a living doing it, she was kind of right there with me.
Dana Carvey
Let me ask you this. This is usually the evolution of a girlfriend who might become a wife. But, okay, early on, she's up close. Maybe not the first row, but right up there.
David Spade
A little.
Dana Carvey
Few weeks later, she's hurt a lot. She's in the middle of the crowd, kind of hanging out. Then she's sort of standing in the back. Eventually, she's in the dressing room for most of the show and asking you how it went. And then she stops coming.
David Spade
That's everyone I know.
Dana Carvey
That's every single. They're really excited. And then they see how the rabbit gets out of that. Yeah, they're going, oh, I see all these. But anyway.
Sebastian Maniscalco
No, you're right. It's just. It's a basic evolution out of the.
David Spade
Building yeah, call me after. What about. Did you say Addison improv? Is that Dallas?
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah, that's Dallas.
David Spade
And it's right by a freeway. Is that what you're talking about?
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah, it's right. It's. It's the populated restaurants per square mile, I think, in the country on Beltline Road in Dallas.
David Spade
Yep, I played that Dallas. I. I played the old Dallas improv that was on Central and Walnut, and then they opened Addison. That's old. I am. And then I started playing that one and. Okay, wait a minute. Dana, go ahead.
Dana Carvey
Spellbinders in Houston, anyone? Bill Hicks was my dandy little opener. No, I was. I was temperamental in those days. I got a hold of his collar and said, you ain't going nowhere. Oh, good, I lost it. No, he was brilliant. Brilliant then, all to the way. So I. There's another stat of yours. I just have to ask you, because it's extraordinary from. From where you are now. The math that I did on your Wikipedia page says you were still waitering, potentially at age 32.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Okay. That's extraordinary.
Sebastian Maniscalco
I was waiting tables. Yeah. Around 31. I quit the Four Seasons Hotel right here in Beverly Hills. So I was there for seven years in the Windows Lounge delivering chicken satays to every celebrity in town.
Dana Carvey
Oh, I love it. I love it.
Sebastian Maniscalco
I. I would do comedy during my break. I would run to the Comedy Store, do a set, and come back, pick up my table. So, yeah, I was early 30s. Schlepping drinks, don't you think?
Dana Carvey
I mean, you know, when you make it and then you went on and then you. You're at this apex. I mean, it's extraordinary. Well deserved, too. So. So you. Don't you think it's better to make it later? I mean, are you still kind of used to it? It's only been about 12 years since you went super supernova. I guess in the context of your life, it's still kind of new in a way. Or are you kind of acclimatized to the numbers?
David Spade
Yeah. What.
Dana Carvey
What arena? What. How big is the arena? It's arena side. Come on, Sebastian, go ahead.
Sebastian Maniscalco
No, you know, I. I'm glad it kind of all happened the way it happened. I just, you know, I had a slow burn. You know, I didn't get a TV show or a movie or anything like that. That kind of catapulted me into stand up comedy in a way where I could draw a crowd. So I just did it, you know, kind of slow burn and. Yeah, I mean, listen, I grew up in a working class Middle. Middle class family. And, you know, we've always kind of had to work. You know, my dad always says, the Maniscalco family, nothing comes easy. We always got to kind of be patient, put our time.
Dana Carvey
Did he actually say the man of Skull? Because I can't imagine my dad saying the coffees will always. I mean, that's just very Italian or Sicilian or something, right?
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah, it's very. It's very. It's very Sicilian. Like, we always gotta, you know, wait our turn. Basically. No one bumps us to the head of the line. You know, we're. I still have that type of career too, though. I mean, I have a fan base. Obviously they come and see me, but like, for example, I went to the Bulls game in my hometown of Chicago last week, right? Simone Biles sitting there with her husband, Jonathan Owens. And you know, they put you up on the. On the Jumbotron. So they tell me, we're putting Simone Biles up, right? She goes up there. You would have thought Michael Jordan walked in.
David Spade
Oh, my God. You gotta follow her.
Sebastian Maniscalco
And then me, who I. I just. I'm doing two sellout shows.
David Spade
The.
Sebastian Maniscalco
The Friday and Saturday right after that. I didn't even know they announced my name. It was almost as if a guy came out to shoot free throws during. That's the response I got in my hometown. So it's like I'm still like, just on the fringe of like, quote unquote celebrity or fame.
David Spade
Yeah. You know, there's fun things, there's. There's interesting facts that, like, Dana's probably been more famous in his life than he hasn't been. So that's. That's probably a weird feeling because you always remember more that you weren't. But he said, such a run. And then Artie Lang, who I think you guys all know, Artie Lang, told me the weirdest he felt was when he made more than his dad. It was such a weird feeling for him that what he does, which is so. Feeling so trivial. And then he goes, wow, my dad's such a fucking hard worker. And he goes, I honestly had to go to therapy. I didn't know how to deal with that. Isn't that crazy? But I. I get it.
Dana Carvey
My dad was a high school teacher. So. Sebastian, your dad, was he somebody making six figures or 50k or.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah, he's a. He's a hair. He owned hair salons. So he was a hairdresser. But, you know, never, you know, never had a franchise of hair salons. Just a few throughout his career. Not. Not making A fantastic living, but not, you know, we went on one vacation, we had two cars, we lived in a nice home, never struggled for money. But yeah, I think it is kind of weird to get used to. I never really even thought about making more than my father. That never really even crossed my mind as far as like, it's never been like you're making more money. The relationship is such. Is like that. That he's the star.
Dana Carvey
Right?
David Spade
Sure.
Sebastian Maniscalco
And I'm. I'm hanging on to his coattails.
David Spade
But also, I grew up not knowing, you know, my dad was kind of in and out of my life, but never even knew how much anybody made it. Didn't even cross your mind. You just, you know, you had a place to live, hopefully, and some food and it. But I didn't know numbers. I didn't know who knew. Yeah. You know, so you just. That's your dad and he's the main guy in your life because he's your dad. But it's a weird feeling to get. I mean, I. There's times I feel obviously overpaid for things and you go, just a weird.
Dana Carvey
You never get used to it. I don't care. I mean, because I had the same kind of thing. Five kids, high school, you know, two day old baked goods. Not one day, but two day. My mom would go old county road. Never had a new car. But we were, we were super happy, man. We got a colored TV in 1965. We had an antenna. We couldn't really see anything, but it was colorful antenna. But I think I asked my wife, and I don't know who you would ask, but I always, once in a while I'll ask her. In 1979, when I met her, I was in college just trying to do open mics. Robin Williams was creeping around, making everyone feel like, why am I even doing this? And I said, did I ever say I wanted to be rich and famous ever? Nope. No. That was never the goal. It was to become a middle act.
David Spade
Me too.
Dana Carvey
And then to become a headliner.
David Spade
I was just middle.
Dana Carvey
So. Yeah, David, yeah, go ahead, speak to that.
Sebastian Maniscalco
I don't think that. I don't think the people that have talent and are in this just for the sheer joy of making people laugh are ever looking for fame and fortune in that way. I mean, obviously, obviously there's some outliers, but, you know, in a day and age now where everybody wants to be famous for. I don't know what I mean. You know, I feel like we're kind of like the last of the Mohicans in the sense of we're. We actually had to work. Going to the club, working on the act, the timing, the nuance, the heckling or whatever it is. But now, apparently you turned your camera on and you eat a meatball and you'd say, you tell people how good it is and all of a sudd. And you know, you're just as famous as the guy.
Dana Carvey
It's so demoralizing for the young people because I talked to some talent managers a while back and I asked them, does talent matter? And they said, no, no. They think in a long career it does, but no, no, no, no. There's a kid who opens, he's handsome, he opens up jars of pickles. He does seven figures. So what do you do with that?
David Spade
The impressing? If your kid goes, oh my God, the guy that drinks pickle juice follows you, that's like the biggest victory of your life. You're like, o good.
Dana Carvey
When I grew up, Don Rickles was good, Carson was good. Frank Sinatra, I mean, all great. But yeah, that. That's so distortive. So I don't want to go too. Go ahead.
Sebastian Maniscalco
One second.
David Spade
You.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Since you've been around entertainment for quite some time, have you guys ever run across a Sinatra? Do you have like a Sinatra story? Did he ever come in?
Dana Carvey
I have a. I have a weird one. It's a little dark, but. So it's night. This is a cigar metaphor. No, it's. You're not going to see what's coming. So it's 1998 and I'm getting a stent in my artery at Cedars Sinai, which, you know, it happens. I'm fine, don't worry. So I'm there. I'm just in the, you know, I'm on the ward in my room reading a magazine and there's this hub, bub, bub, bub. And hey, what's going on out there? He goes, sinatra just checked in, you know, and they put him in the room next to me. And so I was just listening. I heard under my breath, no, he didn't win. But anyway, he passed away that night. It was May 8th or 10th, 1998. Not in my arms, but yeah, in my arm.
David Spade
Did you go in there and cuddle him?
Dana Carvey
I wanted to, man. I became an army issue hyper fan at age 40. Before that, I didn't get it. And then when I got it, I really got it, you know. But I did ask the cardiologist there, world class, I go, what was. What was Frank Sinatra like as a patient? And they were Indian. They're brilliant. They're still friends of mine. They go, oh, he was. It was. It was very tough, you know, because you'd give them the thing to blow in and see what your lungs are. Hey, get back, Doc. I'm going to blow this further than anybody's ever blown these bubbles in their life, you know, So I don't know. Do you have a Sinatra story, David? Are you Sebastian? That's mine.
Sebastian Maniscalco
No, no, I never, I never ran across him.
Dana Carvey
Was your dad a super fan? Because Italian.
Sebastian Maniscalco
No, I mean, I mean, we listened to him, but it wasn't like, you know, you know, we didn't have a picture of him on the wall at the house. It was, he was, he was, you know, played on Saturday mornings while I was doing vacuuming. I remember I had to do chores on Saturday. My mother would play them around the house. But yeah, I don't know, I just find them fascinating. Like, I just, I don't know, like the, the old school type of old school guy.
David Spade
It's fun.
Dana Carvey
Well, the Rat Pack at the Sands, the live album is. Is magical, you know, and Jon Lovitz told me. John Lovitz, hello. Plays it in before he goes on every night when he does clubs. He plays that to get that vibe of Sinatra and Dean Martin and the coolness of that. But can I ask you a question? Because I'm just sort of curious just to put a picture on your childhood, you know, working class. How many siblings did you have?
Sebastian Maniscalco
I got a sister younger, about five years.
Dana Carvey
And so what were. I like asking people these questions. TV show or movie that floated your boat? As, you know, in the formative years, 8, 10, 11, 12. Toy or bicycle you had that you'll never forget or musical act that you blew your mind. Coming up. Do you have five seconds?
Sebastian Maniscalco
It was three's company was my threes company.
Dana Carvey
John Ritter is magic. Did you ever meet John Ritter?
Sebastian Maniscalco
Ever met John Ritter. But heavily influenced by my physical comedy with John Ritter. A bike or do you say a.
Dana Carvey
A toy?
Sebastian Maniscalco
Toy. He Men. I grew up in the he man.
David Spade
Era, not Stretch Armstrong.
Dana Carvey
He man was a big. A big he man dog.
Sebastian Maniscalco
I, I used to play football, like with my he man doll. So it was like.
David Spade
We might have gone too far.
Sebastian Maniscalco
He man for five yards. And then an entertainer would be Michael Jackson growing up was. Was my vibe.
Dana Carvey
Can I tell you my Michael Jackson story?
David Spade
Is it the Holiday Inn?
Dana Carvey
Yeah, I worked at the Holiday Inn and I was a busboy waiter. And the Jackson 5 came in and I would go And. And wait on them, you know, there was Tito and Marlon. And I went in Michael's room before the show. He ordered raw carrots. And Janet, I believe as a little girl, was jumping up and down on the bed. And he would sit and look at the mirror in the room. I give him the raw carrots. And I felt bad later on. Cause I know I said, you're a good looking kid, but you could maybe do a little something. And I just backed off and left Dana.
David Spade
That set off a whole thing with him.
Dana Carvey
I know. But I did wait on. Cause we were near the Circle Star Theater up in the Bay Area. It was a 3,000 in the round. So I waited on Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Rich Little. I did room service to Little Richard. He answers the door completely naked. Anyway, that's that part. That's another podcast. Can I ask you a little bit about your. Your process?
David Spade
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Because once in a while I'd sit down on Netflix and I'd watch specials. Okay. And I usually last 15 minutes with David. Why? I, like I said, I last about 15 minutes, David. I go longer. But. So I'm going through. I didn't know a thing about you. Never saw you. And it was the one with the Subway sandwich in the Cinnabon. And I watched it all the way through and I said, holy shit. This is new. This is familiar, but completely brand new. I used to have gotten this from people over the years, right when they first. Because the physicality and the musicality together was so potent to me. And the physicality is. It's not just all this, it's also your head. And then the rhythms, you know, the way you say people like. You're so exasperated. The guy's over by the pool clip and his toenails, I mean, it's so hypnotic. And I love it. And I've recommended that special and others to Our business manager loves you. And two things. One, so then I went, I said, I showed you to my kids. I said, oh, this guy, you know, Sebastian. Then I said, let's find out where he was. So I watched you on Craig Ferguson doing standup and it was all there, but it wasn't 2.0. It wasn't extrapolated, but everything was there. So the confidence leap was huge. So you have people tell you this, right? I mean, it's so potent. No one else is doing that even to this day. Your style, I just really appreciate it. And do you pull muscles? Do you get hurt on stage? Because Jim Brewer does. Okay. That's all I Gotta say no.
Sebastian Maniscalco
It was very, very sweet of you. I appreciate the. I like the way you put it, describing kind of what happens up there, physicality and musicality. Yeah, I never really heard it put that way. But yeah, for me, as far as I did comedy so much just to, just to get good at it and familiar and you know, talk about the confidence. You know, I noticed when I started moving a lot, people enjoyed that and it was a bit of a surprise because maybe you wouldn't suspect it coming from a guy. Like, I was just kind of up there, I was kind of dressed nice and then I would. To whatever and then I'm like, oh, wow, I'm getting some response here with the movement. And then I guess what happens in standup comedy, you just become. You try to get as comfortable as you are just talking like with your family. So that's kind of how I equated it too, because they would look at me on stage and go, you're much funny when you talk to us, you know. And I was like, well, you know, I got to get used to this. It's something that, it's very new to me. And, and yeah, for me it's just basically storytelling. And the act outs are, are kind of just, they're not practiced. It's just like I want to go to the comic store tonight and I'm going to tell a story that happened to me and how I tell the story happens to come with a head.
Dana Carvey
Bob or just being shocked. The one, I don't know which special it was, but people just randomly ringing the doorbell. The act out on that was just huge. I mean, you're going in different rooms lying down. It was like a whole military operation. So I call it funny with the sound off and there's nothing more potent than if you look at I Love Lucy or Peter Sellers where there's. First of all, there's not one joke in your act verbally, but also that the act outs allow the audience to laugh crazy hard because they're not. They don't have to listen right at that moment. So then they're free. And so it's a style that I just love.
David Spade
I think it's kind of a style that when I saw it at the store, I think I first saw Ada Sebastian just leaving. You know, you do a set and you're leaving and I go, he was next. So I just sat in the back or I just walked in one night and before I went on, just. Who's on? I don't know everybody here. And same Thing, Dana. I just thought it was very different. And I think it's kind of like maybe you're saying his standup in the old days was sort of, in a weird way, acapella, and now you're adding strings and different things to it because movements and different things are taking, like a bit that's funny and it's getting funnier. There's little layers to it now. So you're not. So you have a bit that's already funny, and now you're putting different stuff to it. Now it's elevating. And now that's your whole style. There's more going on in each bit than a regular stand up. I would say that's what I've drawn to the same stuff. It was already funny. And then he surprised us with some moves. I think I. There was the Uber bit, and there was the one about. That was just funny to me. And then. And then when I see. I see. You know, it got into this other thing that we can get into where I just did a special. And this is more what this podcast is about. I did a special.
Dana Carvey
And so what's the name of it? When is it?
David Spade
And we don't know yet.
Dana Carvey
Okay.
David Spade
But the thing about it is, and Sebastian's done a lot of these, and the idea of, do you start from scratch and do a whole new hour or do you do a mixed bag?
Sebastian Maniscalco
So for me, I just shot my special last week, and I'm still on tour, so that will come out after I. After I'm done with the tour. So I like to give the crowd a new experience if I'm gonna go on tour again. I mean, I think there's some. Some material that people enjoy that they want to hear.
Dana Carvey
Right.
Sebastian Maniscalco
And I might throw a few of the older ones in. But I like to, you know, I. I don't know. It's hard with comedians. I mean, I'm sure you guys run into it. The impressions that you do. People want to see the impressions or people want to see that.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, totally. They. Yeah, yeah.
Sebastian Maniscalco
You're like, all right, you know, I'll give you that.
David Spade
But like, the hits. Here's what. What do you got? Where's the bride's groomsmen or whatever? That one where they come down and rehearse. That one I always thought was funny because when I see you, sometimes I go, oh, I don't know what's coming out, you know, And I. If I told my buddy, oh, there's an Uber bit. There's this bit. So those kind of things happen with me, too. They go, oh, I came to see you and you didn't do. And I'm like, I know. I actually like to mix in some of my favorites. And then, of course, do new stuff. And then there's that feeling of that was in the special. Do I do it when I go out again? I don't know. It's back and forth.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Well, here you guys a little bit older than me, you didn't have, like, when you did something on TV or you did that just lived on tv. It's not like you went and go and like, pulled that clip back up again of the SNL sketch that you guys did. It's like, if you missed it, you missed it.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, pretty much.
Sebastian Maniscalco
And now it's all out there for everybody to see. So you do a special and it's like, I didn't even. I didn't have cable going up, so I didn't even see the damn HBO specials. And.
Dana Carvey
And when I.
Sebastian Maniscalco
It was like catching a unicorn. But now it's like, you do. You do a special, they cut it up. It's all on clips on. And then people come out and go, all right, well, yeah, we saw that. What are we paying, you know, $55 tickets.
David Spade
That's a big thing.
Sebastian Maniscalco
When I saw that already on YouTube. So it's a challenge, I think, for comedians to kind of come up with equal to or greater than material that they have done previously. That's the challenge.
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Dana Carvey
Ticket prices are a trip, right? Because I was said, oh, you know, I'm just trying to warm up, so I'll play this casino in Oroville. And then I see the tickets are like $195. I got notes on stage. I'm working my old characters. It's a little bit like, guys, I'd rather take a little less and not feel that pressure. Am I going to give you 195 bucks worth of comedy? But I will observe one thing about you because you don't have any punchlines. It's a little bit like with me chopping broccoli, people still, I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's this goofy song and there was no joke in it. And so your bits have no joke. So it's like Monty Python or something. The rhythms and the physicality. You. You probably would enjoy some of your stuff more the second time. So I can see why you go, okay, I'm going to do this bit, maybe do an encore. You know, Bill Reagan, Brian Regan had to do that because he had some bits that were just so the people just wanted to hear him.
David Spade
And even before Twitter and TikTok, it's.
Dana Carvey
Not just with surprise punchlines. Those kind of burn out those guys who do that style. That's hard. But anyway, you go ahead.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah, I think you're right. Sometimes it's just the way people do it. Like the chopping broccoli. Everybody could watch that over and over again. I. I did have a question on the chopping broccoli. When you went chop, you did a chopping broccoli.
Draymond Green
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Sebastian Maniscalco
Was that all in the moment there or was that, like, planned?
Dana Carvey
I done it in the clubs. I think the first time I did it was at the Improv on Melrose, and that piano at midnight started it there. So I was doing in the clubs for probably a couple years, so that was just a. A good representation. But there's no way I'm knowing when I'm going to go, you know, But I knew that I was going to escalate it, but I didn't know it would happen right at that moment. You know, it's probably the way you work, you know, you and me, you know, but it's. Yeah, you, You. You kind of have an outline, but you're not totally sure. I know it's cold as ice. Paradise. And the feeling was so nice. He's a lady I know. If I didn't know her, she'd be the lady I didn't know, you know? And then we get in. My lady went downtown, she bought some broccoli, and then there, there, I'm off. Once I get to chop broccoli, then anything you should chop in the clubs, I'll do it for 10 minutes with a guitar.
David Spade
Yeah. Or you did on SNL. I. I've seen it, but I watched.
Dana Carvey
It for the first time a week ago.
David Spade
Did it kill, or was it one of those ones that, like, cone heads? It doesn't do that well. And then they do it again. Then it kills because they. They're onto it, you know, I mean, they're like, oh, it takes them. Because sometimes those are just like, weird bits. And then they stick with everybody, and everyone's like, oh, that's great. And you go, you know, it never killed because it's so new. They have. They don't even get it right away.
Dana Carvey
It did build. I mean, the character. I had to call it a character. I used to do it just as myself. I'd set it up as rock stars losing inspiration. But Derek Stevens. And then it sort of built after time, but it did well. It was at the end of my first show, but then I wrote a sketch later where Derek Stevens goes to his record company and they tell him that he has to die because they look at the record sales of Hendrix and Jim Morrison. That kind of killed the character, you know, but anyway. But back to our guest.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Did you guys. On snl, I mean, do you look at other casts after you guys have left and say, oh, you know, like, do you compare. Like, oh, when we were there, it was the heyday. Or how do you guys, like, judge the show after you've been on it? Is something that you.
Dana Carvey
David?
David Spade
I start with thinking they're all bad. And then I go from there. No, I don't. No, it's.
Dana Carvey
It's. We've.
David Spade
We've talked about this because we. We've talked to different generations, Garrett Morris and Lorraine Newman, and then we go, newer cast. And it's always about the same situation where some of them are some sketches are good and some don't work as well. And then there's some cast members that kind of pop out and some flatline. And that's just the way it's always been. I think I was lucky to have good people around me, but that wasn't for sure known at the time. It was five years later, 10 years later, that everyone kind of held up.
Dana Carvey
I always think, you know what I mean, I could have some memories of the seven years I had in there that was, really went well and everything. But when I see other people, like later on, like Sherry o' Terry or if I see Will Ferrell and stuff, like, okay, they're better than I was. That's how I go. I go, Bill Hader, Fred Armors.
David Spade
Okay there.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, I'm not as good as Kristen. Wig.
David Spade
I couldn't do that.
Dana Carvey
I couldn't exactly. I always look at the cast beyond my time lovingly and with a lot of admiration, you know, because, like, oh, I didn't do that, you know, because it's kind of unlimited. You do what you do and then you leave the show. But, you know, it keeps being reinvented. I mean, how do you. I'm just gonna ask you because you didn't have cable and you're in the clubs, like, who were you, who were you looking at? And you didn't have telephone. You didn't have a landliner, you know, but who are you?
David Spade
Like George Carlin. George Carlin.
Dana Carvey
Who were you looking at to. To.
Sebastian Maniscalco
It was anybody on Johnny Carson. So we would stay up and watch Johnny Carson.
Dana Carvey
Okay.
Sebastian Maniscalco
And I would be fascinated when the comedian would come on back then. I think he got like seven or eight minutes and I was like, just like, oh, wow, this is, this is unbelievable. Plus, back then we would listen to records of, yeah, Harlan or I would, I would see cable my on, on Saturday morning, I went over to my uncle's house to visit and he would tape all the, the comedians me to watch. So I, I, that's kind of how I was introduced to stand up. Was I, I think first through, through the Tonight Show.
Dana Carvey
So how old were you when you went to your uncle's house to look at, to stand up?
David Spade
Playboy Channel.
Sebastian Maniscalco
This is eight. I was like seven, eight years old.
Dana Carvey
So you got the bug early. You kind of.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah, I was, I, I was really, really fascinated with standup comedy from a young age. I just always thought it was. I used to go to comedy clubs when I was 15. Not to perform, just to watch. I had a fake id Me and my girlfriend would go, and there's a little comedy club in Rosemont at the time. I even forget the name of it. And we used to sit in the back, and I used to sit there and marvel at the comedian going, gee, how does he remember all that?
David Spade
Exactly. I did the same thing.
Dana Carvey
Yeah.
David Spade
Like. And I'm like, are they just making this up? Like, right now?
Dana Carvey
They seem so confident.
David Spade
They're so smart. Yeah. Did you see Seinfeld on there? I remember seeing Seinfeld. I saw Leno on Carson. I saw Jeff Altman. There's just some that stuck out. George Miller. Remember that was. Is that on Letterman? Letterman's friend, George Miller. But that's funny because you see him and that's really it. And then you wait and see someone else on there.
Dana Carvey
Rickles was always, as a kid, was the one who just made me laugh the hardest, because over there, chewing on a pillow, jokes. Ed. The show started a half hour ago. Put him in the corner, give him a cookie. Hey, give me the program. I mean, and he had his tricks, but still, he made it feel so spontaneous. And.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah, so I really enjoyed him and the Johnny Carson banter and the back. Also, I liked when the. The talk shows had people on the couch and you would come out and they would goof around with the girl next to you. Next year, everybody would be, like, having fun. And now it's like, you go out there and it's just you. You and the host. It would be nice to have the first guest sitting next to you.
Dana Carvey
It's promotion and corporate greed. And, you know, that was just like. I mean, there's one online. There's so many online where Rickles is just next to Sinatra. You know, Vinnie Babongo called. You know, he's just doing all these fake Italian names. And Sinatra was dying, but, yeah, that bygone era. Can I ask you this? Were you introverted, extroverted in the middle, going through grade school, or do you have years where you were kind of the king of the hill?
Sebastian Maniscalco
Other years, you were dormant, shy, Just shy kid. Never class clown. Just quiet, polite. Just observe the class clown. I never liked the class clown. I always thought funny.
David Spade
Sorry, Dana.
Dana Carvey
No, I was introverted as well. But when I was in fourth grade, I had a good year. I got kind of cocky. But fifth grade, I went. I went fourth grade, I went dormant. No, fourth grade. Something about I was a shoplifter. I smoked cigarettes and I fought. A lot of kids, I fought.
David Spade
I was like, what happened? Your stock went down the next Year, I don't know.
Dana Carvey
You know, that's, that's the thing, what I was going to say about confidence, you know, is there's 99% and then that last 1% is as big as the previous 99. And I think that's where you got to at a given point. And so the audience, when they sense that kind of confidence, like Dave Chappelle when he's up there, you know, it's just like that's at that high, high.
David Spade
And you're there 22 minutes to light a cigarette. Everyone's like, I know.
Dana Carvey
And it's mesmerizing. You're actually, it's funny.
David Spade
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
You're waiting. You're actually, when you watch him, you know, you hope that he likes you as an audience member. That's how he looks at me, how powerful he is. But when you get to that level of confidence, that next, next wound down level, the audience is so comfortable, they're so relaxed that you have command up there. And you got there. I don't know what year it was, but you got there and it's fun to watch. I've, I've seen recent specials, I won't give names of big comics and I, I was one of them a few years back, but their eyes are kind of big and they're, they're dancing for their dollars. They're a little sweaty and it. Not their best set. And you know, you want to feel like the guy's not shooting a special, you know?
David Spade
You know, you know Sebastian, Big beat.
Dana Carvey
Of sweat and it's ain't funny all of a sudden. Go ahead, David.
David Spade
He's not afraid. Not afraid to keep, keep it silent for a second, you know, like, I think, I think I'm right. When you. Oh, yeah. There's silence in mind. I'm scared they're going to yell. I'm scared it's hard to sit there and be quiet and think of the next thing. I think Nate Bragazzi has good crowds where they wait, you know what I mean? They're well behaved. And to get a crowd, it's so much more fun to do throwaway jokes or to take a pause and then to go. But if you. I get rowdy sometimes and so I can't leave that much. And I think I like when someone like Sebastian just stops for a second, then he goes on the next thing and you're like, I'm in this. So if you're good, if you get a good crowd, you can do it.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah. That's the biggest fear that I love the silence. It's just you don't know what people are going to say or do or. Or, you know, someone could yell out something because the audience feels sometimes maybe uncomfortable going, are we supposed to talk now?
David Spade
Or you do you forget something? Yeah. They want you to keep going. They get uncomfortable. They're like, maybe this is the time he wants me to yell something stupid. And they're right on cue.
Dana Carvey
You know, you're in shape as a stand up. If you're up there and you have a bit and it's killing and you just. In the back of your head, you go, oh, my God, if this is killing, I got three stacked right behind this. You know, I can really relax now.
David Spade
Oh, yeah.
Dana Carvey
You know, that's a good place to be.
David Spade
Good crowd is great.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta be. I mean, even. Even sometimes you feel like. I don't know, if you guys feel like you're doing a bit, maybe it's one of your favorite bits to do, but it doesn't come. It comes in the middle. You put it in the middle. Right. And you feel like after that, you're like, the stuff that I got after this not going to be as good as what they just saw, Right?
Dana Carvey
No, but you get.
Sebastian Maniscalco
At least for me, I get so excited to do that, I got to move it up in the act. That keeps me kind of engaged. And then after that, for me, I feel like, oh, man, it's a little bit of a letdown just to tell them these jokes because I know they're not as good as what I just did, so.
David Spade
Or you know. Or you get a weird crowd not to interrupt you. I had this the other night there. They weren't. They're either really biting on everything, or you go, oh, they're not biting on this. This is dirty. And they're not biting. And I'm like, oh, I'm looking at my list going, we got some dirty ones coming up toward the end. How do I get around these? Because why it's so hard on your feet to go, I gotta move that up. I gotta lose that. But I still got to do enough time because they are. If they're not biting on this one, they're not gonna like the next. I. You can just tell.
Dana Carvey
I know.
David Spade
Get off it, get off it. It's such a psychological beating up there.
Sebastian Maniscalco
You're like, don't you find it fascinating that you're saying they're not biting on this? Meaning as. As an audience collect a whole group.
David Spade
Yeah.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Like, they all got together and Go, listen, dirty. We're not laughing at the dirty stuff tonight. But it's fascinating for me is like, how is it, like, everybody in the audience is not on board with this one particular one?
David Spade
Yep. Or they don't like the, the super dry stuff. Like, you can just come have little musings that work. Like, I think the other night, I go on and I go, hey, don't tell me what happened. The election. I taped it. Don't tell me who won. I taped good. And then, and then I got a big laugh. Next night, I do it. They're just staring at me. I'm like, what happened? What happened between last night and tonight? At a certain point, it's too late to do that. But for their two, three days there. And then I go, and then I go, there's some throwaways in my act. They weren't. And they're like, we're not the throwaway crowd. Give us the, give us the fastballs. I'm like, fuck. And that's what you realize early on. And I go, I got an hour of this. I got to.
Dana Carvey
My problem is if I too early, get too jumpy and I just go out and I go, not going to do it. I'm fucked. Because that's it. They, they, they. Some people leave after that. They. Or if I go party on some. Half the crowd goes, we got it, we got it. We heard it. If I don't do anything else and.
David Spade
Then you do something else, I go, why are you doing something else?
Dana Carvey
Why are you talking about anything but the church lady right now? I don't understand why. So you're ruining it. It's a good problem to have, but it's basically a greatest hits review. I might as well be at, you know, the Tropicana and Laughlin. You know, little Dennis Miller slipped in. Oh, you got the way.
David Spade
I'll be at the Tropicana and Laughlin on 11-18-19.
Dana Carvey
You got the Sebast cat on the pod today, huh? That's a toddling cat. You know, out there with the physicality works. It works. So what? Another question beside. But we're going to get to your all your credits, movies, TV shows in a sec.
David Spade
He's like, please get to my credits.
Dana Carvey
PR person's going nuts. When is he gonna mention the book?
David Spade
When is he gonna do it?
Dana Carvey
How's he gonna mention the book? We got a two hour podcast. I can't do it. Do you have to stretch before you go out?
Sebastian Maniscalco
I mean, do you kind of do early on? No, but now I. I pop my calf a couple of times on stage.
David Spade
Of all things.
Dana Carvey
Which bit was it or what it was.
David Spade
I can't do the stealing.
Dana Carvey
It was just a pivot move. We were squatting.
Sebastian Maniscalco
I went to go sprint from one side to the other. As I went off my right leg.
Dana Carvey
Yeah.
Sebastian Maniscalco
I'm like, wow, did. Did I just break my leg?
David Spade
Doesn't take much. You have to be at least 30. So after that, it doesn't take a lot. You're like, what happened was I turned to grab the computer mouse and everyone's like. And I go, that was it.
Dana Carvey
I'm old enough that my, my toes will spasm during a set. Like, they just start going out and getting all rigid. I gotta. I go, what the. That's painful. I can't put any weight on it. So I just go, not gonna, not gonna step over. I'm trying to stir up ticket sales on this bike.
David Spade
I want to see you collapse.
Dana Carvey
I'. Show. So did you have to ice it, rest it, massage it? It. It was okay.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah. I had to mention it to the crowd because that definitely hampered my movement. I had sciatica for two years, and it really, really screwed with my.
Dana Carvey
That's wicked. Wicked.
Sebastian Maniscalco
I don't know if you guys have dealt with that.
David Spade
Go down your back, your leg or something.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah, it goes the side of your leg into your calf. Some people get it into their ankle and foot, but I couldn't, I couldn't move. I, I, you know, it's hard to be funny when you're in, like, a lot of pain. So I had to really work through that. And it's, it's gone now. I did Pilates to correct that. I tried everything. No shots. I was getting. I was doing cupping, massage, whatever that was out there, I was doing. And then I fell upon this legree Pilates, and all of a sudden, two months in.
David Spade
Wow.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, my wife had it. Same same thing. Pilates, all that kind of stuff. Could I ask you what's special when you were in massive pain, did you record just that? What was the name of that special when you were in pain?
Sebastian Maniscalco
It was the last one. Is it new in the tuxedo?
Dana Carvey
Really? He probably decided not to record.
David Spade
What is your last one called?
Sebastian Maniscalco
Is it Me?
Dana Carvey
Yeah. Or I thought It Ain't Right.
Sebastian Maniscalco
No, it Ain't Right. Is the, the tour.
Dana Carvey
The tour, yeah. Yeah. And then. Is it me? Yeah. Yeah. And how would you.
David Spade
What time is it?
Dana Carvey
What time is it?
David Spade
I'm running out of special names, Sebastian.
Dana Carvey
You have one called Give it a rest. Give it a rest.
David Spade
Mine's called Bebop Boop. I mean, they go, is this a real one? I'm like, I don't know.
Dana Carvey
He had a special that.
David Spade
He had a special.
Dana Carvey
He named it. The name was so nondescript that for two years in this podcast, neither of us could remember couldn't remember the name of his current special. What was the name of it?
David Spade
Always like either two words or just something kind of cutesy.
Sebastian Maniscalco
But question, aren't you embarrassed? What's wrong with people?
Dana Carvey
Yeah, get your fat straight.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Oh, yeah, I got sciatica. It's.
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Sebastian Maniscalco
If you name a special, do you have to say the name in the react?
David Spade
That's a great question. I, you know, people go, I'll watch your special and give you a name. I'm like, you Won't. Because there's not some running theme of, like, I was abused by my father. The whole special. Like, oh, I got one. You're like, no, it's just all goofy, dumb jokes and it makes no sense. So I'm going to have it a special name. Like when I heard Rock named his tambourine, and I didn't get it at all, but I just like that it.
Dana Carvey
Was different and spelled different than.
David Spade
And then he said, when you're married, sometimes you're the lead. Sometimes you play the tambourine and let them shine. And I was like, oh, okay. So it has some thought to it, you know, So I like that. But I liked it anyway because it was just weird and. And it's always fun to think of a name, and then no one really cares.
Dana Carvey
I had one good one and one terrible one. The good, good One was the 90s. I called it Critics Choice with four stars. And I never talked about it on cable TV. It would come up on Comedy Central. Dana Carvey, critics Choice, four stars. My sister would call me and says, you got Critics Choice again. Then in 2016, I had an Irish nephew from Dublin. It's Stella Adler in Hollywood. And it was right when Wokeness was coming in, and they said this and this and this, but straight white males need not apply for some class. So he goes, man, you should name it that, you know? So I needed a stripe. Straight white male, 60. I don't know why, because some people said, that's kind of catchy. I would click on that, you know, and then I'm on the great late Norm McDonald's podcast and goes, so I sounded special. I mean, what was that title about? And he is, it kind of has nothing to do with straight white male. Right? And I don't know it. Nothing. There's no bit in there about it. It's completely just slapped.
David Spade
I like that you confused Norm with that one.
Dana Carvey
I did. I know.
David Spade
What does it mean?
Dana Carvey
What does it mean? Where's a bit about that, you know, I didn't understand? So we all love Norm. Of course. I just threw that in case people don't understand that.
David Spade
So we make fun of Norm all the time.
Dana Carvey
We love Norm. I mean, I love to do them because I'm visiting with him, but. So the bookie is what your prp. Is that why you're on right now? Besides Bizarre?
David Spade
He's on because he likes.
Dana Carvey
He's a big fan. No, it's. I watched one of the. The first episode today. It was. It's very cool. I Mean, you had Ray Romano on. On it, you know, and you were in that movie with him somewhere in Queens. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah.
Sebastian Maniscalco
So, yeah. I mean, the whole acting thing for me has been a struggle to kind of wrap my head around coming off, you know, stand up comedy and getting that immediate gratification on stage. And then all of a sudden you're acting. And now it's going to do that again. We're going to move the cameras and this and that. Just for me, it's like I get like, I get impatient. It's like, all right, come on, let's.
Dana Carvey
It's not really fun, is it? Unless it's documentary style. But if it's like, we're coming around, you know, we're going again, we're moving, we're moving in. Oh, really?
David Spade
Do you hate yourself when you start repeating the way you did a joke over and over on different takes? It makes me sick, to be honest. Oh, you know, I keep doing it and they go, do it again. I'm like, it's just, it's not funny. And they go, now do it again. This is the one we're probably going to use. I'm like, now it's 48 takes in. I've been giving it my all. Hi. Yeah, hey. And then I got to do it again. And the people across me are like, oh, so all that, that was all planned, that little throwaway ad lib? I'm like, yes, you get it now. Sorry. But in your act, you do it once and you keep moving.
Dana Carvey
Everyone's like, oh, hey, they do the master shot at 8am, right, David? They do the best shot, then a second or third master shot. By the time you get to the money shot on you, it's like eight, nine hours later. You've actually said the words over 200 times. It doesn't even sound like English at that point. Then the reviews. The comedian, the impressionist struggles with his acting skills. No, fucking get put. Do Larry David with me. Just shoot everything every second.
David Spade
One time to just bring it back to us. Sebastian. We were on a. When we did Tommy Boy, Brian Dennehy came in to play. To play dad. And we all love him. From fucking True. Yeah, First Blood or whatever. And so we were all excited. So we didn't realize because it was our first big movie or any movie, that we were. Pete, the director, who's a great guy, we love him. But to make sure, because we were new, I think Paramount told him, just make sure you get it. So we're doing 15 masters. You know, forget about the over the shoulder and then a two shot and then over the wide shot and then a loose two close up. So we're doing. That's what we're taking all day. And then. And Brian Dennehy, after three takes of the master goes. They go, all right. Going again. He goes, what the fuck? What are we doing? What are we doing here? We got it. Go.
Dana Carvey
Move on.
David Spade
Move on.
Dana Carvey
I love it. We just did three.
David Spade
How many we're going to be on this? A second at the beginning and a second at the end of the scene. What are we doing? And I was like, are you allowed to say this? What's going on?
Dana Carvey
And then.
David Spade
And because, you know, Farley gives it 10, 10%. I give it about 64. And so at the. He's just so burned out drinking coffee and we're like, we haven't even pushed in for the stuff we're going to use. So he was sort of trying to protect us a little bit in a very loud voice.
Dana Carvey
I had Robert Losha.
David Spade
Great.
Dana Carvey
Do that on a movie.
David Spade
Oh, that's.
Dana Carvey
Yeah. Another exact director gets in his face. You're wearing out the actors. You're wearing them the out. And the director's like shriveling down. I did Roadhouse. Yeah. I played a piano with Tom Hanks. You face.
David Spade
We shot Roadhouse in a day and a half.
Dana Carvey
That's Patrick Swayze. Was. Brian was Robert Losha. And road.
David Spade
I think he was a bad guy. Lived across the lake.
Dana Carvey
Anyway, back to Sebastian.
David Spade
All right, well, Sebastian, thank you, bud. What else can I ask?
Sebastian Maniscalco
I. I appreciate it.
David Spade
He's a good guy. I will see you at the store.
Dana Carvey
He's a brilliant. Stand up. I think you're an excellent actor, by the way. I like watching you act. And, and, and you wrote a book. I don't know what you haven't done, but, you know, just keep on keeping on. If we run into each other somewhere, sometime, what would you want me to say to you of a Backstage. The Comedy Store? What would you like me to say?
Sebastian Maniscalco
Hey, Sebastian, we'll just pick it up right before we left off right here. We just. Yeah, just go into the next question.
David Spade
And start, start about the bookie and then just go from there.
Dana Carvey
Are you going to run and tell your wife and kids? They said I was really physical and musical.
Sebastian Maniscalco
Yeah, that's gonna be at the dinner table tonight. Do you know what they said about daddy?
David Spade
You know what they said?
Dana Carvey
And you're picking them up, holding them. Anyway. It was so much fun to have you on here and yeah, thanks for letting us blab. But yeah, keep on doing and just have fun, I guess. Enjoy yourself. I mean, it's.
Sebastian Maniscalco
I'm enjoying myself and it was a pleasure talking to both of you, the two guys that I, I kind of grew up watching on tv. And, you know, sometimes it's like, you know, you got to wrap your head around these things. It's like watching you as a kid. Now we're doing a podcast together. Sometimes it's, you know, plays with your head a little bit going, I told.
Dana Carvey
I had it with Martin Short and Steve Martin, you know, like, really? You consider me a peer? What is this where we're at now? Are you crazy? You know, but yeah, I totally get that. Don't ever lose that, you know, and you're making a lot of people happy. I know that sounds really corny, but from where I'm at, people need to laugh in life and so it's a good thing to. It's a good stock and trade to do.
David Spade
Hey, guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app, give us review, five star rating, and maybe even share an episode that you've loved with a friend.
Dana Carvey
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David Spade
Fly on the Wall is presented by Odyssey and executive produced by Danny Carvey and David Spade, Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman, Maddie Sprung Kaiser and Leah Reese Dennis of Odyssey.
Dana Carvey
Our senior producer is Greg Holtzman and the show is produced and edited by.
David Spade
Phil Sweet tech booking by Cultivated Entertainment.
Dana Carvey
Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura Curran, Melissa Wester, Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kirk Courtney, and Lauren Vieira.
David Spade
Reach out with us. Any questions be asked and answered on the show? You can email us@flyonthewalldysee.com that's a U D a C-Y dot com.
Episode: RE-RELEASE – Sebastian Maniscalco
Release Date: November 19, 2025
Podcast Host: Audacy
In this engaging episode, comedians Dana Carvey and David Spade sit down with fellow stand-up star Sebastian Maniscalco. The trio explores Sebastian's comedic evolution, his working-class roots, entering stardom later in life, the arc of a comic's career, physicality in comedy, challenges with fame in the age of social media, and the peculiar joys and anxieties of performing live. Blending genuine admiration with comic banter, they also touch on the shifting landscape of stand-up and share candid stories from the world of showbiz and acting.
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This episode is an insightful, humorous window into the world of professional comedy and the journey to success. Sebastian Maniscalco’s humility, Carvey and Spade’s veteran perspective, and their mutual respect and comic chemistry make for a lively discussion on what it means to work, adapt, and thrive in comedy—whether hustling in clubs, chasing the next “bit,” or simply savoring the challenge of making people laugh.
For fans of comedy, stand-up craft, and behind-the-scenes showbiz, this episode is a masterclass in both humility and humor.