Tony Hinchcliffe

Summary

Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade – Episode Featuring Tony Hinchcliffe

Release Date: May 21, 2025

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Introduction to Tony Hinchcliffe [02:23]

In this engaging episode of Fly on the Wall, hosts Dana Carvey and David Spade welcome comedian Tony Hinchcliffe. They delve into Tony's background, highlighting his creation of the popular podcast "Kill Tony" and his significant move to Austin, Texas, where he further established himself in the comedy scene.

David Spade:
"Tony Hinchcliffe is on today. And you know, he does Kill Tony. A lot of people know him from that..."
[02:23]

Dana Carvey:
"He's the brainchild of Kill Tony. He breaks down all the different ways it operates for him..."
[02:44]

Tony's Personal Achievements and New Home [04:20]

Tony shares a personal milestone—purchasing his first home in Austin after years of financial struggles. This move signifies his growth and success in the competitive world of stand-up comedy.

Dana Carvey:
"You’re on a set? Are you..."
[04:20]

Tony Hinchcliffe:
"I finally made money after a decade and a half plus of really, really struggling..."
[04:30]

David Spade:
"Nice city, nice house. Love it..."
[05:21]

Behind the Scenes of "Kill Tony" [11:38]

Tony provides an in-depth look into the mechanics of "Kill Tony," explaining the show's unique format where aspiring comedians have 60 seconds to perform. He emphasizes the randomness of the selection process and the critical role of the interview segment that follows each performance.

Tony Hinchcliffe:
"The show can be pretty ruthless if they do really poorly and didn't prepare..."
[13:14]

Dana Carvey:
"It's a new way variety show..."
[02:39]

Memorable Moments and Show Highlights [22:00]

Tony recounts a standout episode featuring Carrot Top, where the comedian brought out unexpected props, showcasing the show's blend of improvisation and unique comedic styles. This anecdote underscores the unpredictable and entertaining nature of "Kill Tony."

Tony Hinchcliffe:
"He pulled out a fork that has chopsticks attached to the backside for white people that might not know how to use chopsticks..."
[22:47]

Dana Carvey:
"That is so... That’s killer."
[22:53]

Impact of Social Media and Political Events [43:03]

The discussion shifts to Tony's experience performing at a political rally where a seemingly benign joke about Puerto Rico was misconstrued, leading to unexpected media fallout. Tony reflects on how social media amplified the incident, affecting his reputation and career trajectory.

Tony Hinchcliffe:
"If Trump wins with the actual statistics, this is what we're going to put out..."
[45:13]

Dana Carvey:
"There was a period where you were sort of gonna potentially, from that joke, reorientate how America tilts in the presidential election..."
[47:35]

Growth and Real-Time Development of Comedians [38:40]

Tony discusses how "Kill Tony" serves as a platform for comedians to grow and refine their craft in real-time. He compares the experience to watching artists develop their work from inception to polished performance, providing both audience members and performers with an authentic growth journey.

Tony Hinchcliffe:
"It's like watching someone write a hit on an acoustic guitar and sing it to you acapella..."
[38:40]

David Spade:
"It's literally like that, ish."
[39:35]

The Role of the Panel and Hosting Dynamics [35:04]

The conversation highlights the dynamic between Tony and his panel of hosts, including Brian Redban. They discuss how the panel contributes to the show's unique flavor, providing real-time feedback and enhancing the overall experience for both performers and the audience.

Tony Hinchcliffe:
"There's my co-host, Brian Redban, who mainly focuses on sound effects and making sure that everything's being recorded..."
[13:39]

Dana Carvey:
"There is no. And I... It's just because you're not supposed to say it..."
[59:34]

Challenges and Triumphs in Show Production [28:04]

Tony reflects on the challenges of maintaining the show's authenticity amidst growing popularity and external pressures. He emphasizes the importance of keeping "Kill Tony" raw and real, avoiding the pitfalls of overproduction.

Tony Hinchcliffe:
"When you think of the overall engagement and the locked-inness of these shows, you know, they're there. It's a destination..."
[28:04]

Dana Carvey:
"The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman..."
[66:54]

Future Plans and Collaborations [65:04]

In the closing segment, Dana congratulates Tony on his achievements, and Tony expresses his admiration for Dana and David. He hints at potential future collaborations, suggesting a desire to bring the hosts to Austin for a joint show.

Tony Hinchcliffe:
"I wanted to do this to hopefully be able to get you guys eventually on an airplane to Austin, Texas to do the show together..."
[66:25]

Dana Carvey:
"We would love it."
[66:30]

Conclusion

This episode of Fly on the Wall offers a comprehensive look into Tony Hinchcliffe's journey in the comedy world, the innovative format of "Kill Tony," and the intricate balance between humor and real-life challenges. Through candid discussions and humorous exchanges, Dana, David, and Tony provide valuable insights into the mechanics of producing a successful comedy show, the impact of social media on personal branding, and the profound personal growth that comes with sustained dedication to the craft.

Notable Quotes:

• Tony Hinchcliffe [04:30]:
  "I finally made money after a decade and a half plus of really, really struggling..."

• Tony Hinchcliffe [38:40]:
  "It's like watching someone write a hit on an acoustic guitar and sing it to you acapella..."

• Dana Carvey [65:04]:
  "It's an incredible achievement and you're just in the pocket and no one's with you and no one's telling you what to do..."

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Transcript

[David Spade]

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[David Spade]

Here we go. Tony Hinchcliffe is on today. And you know, he does kill Tony. A lot of people know him from that. Started the Comedy Store, moved to Austin, the Mothership. And they have a great, hilarious. Maybe it's called a variety show. What would you call It.

[Dana Carvey]

I think it's a new way variety show.

[David Spade]

Postmodern, new form. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And he breaks down. He's the brainchild of Kill Tony. He breaks down all the different ways it operates for him. He really cares about it. I mean, he's 13 years in and he's. It's. It's highly thought about. It's not. And made to look like people just showed up and they shoot the rehearsal. It's really a fun show.

[David Spade]

Right.

[Dana Carvey]

Do you think our fans would know about it?

[David Spade]

I think they would. I think a lot of them know about it already. I've done it once. I think you're going to do it in the future. It is fun. It's a total crazy shit show. It's a lot of laughs. They bring out. They have a parent panel. They have a great audience. That a slow build over the last 13 years and now it's huge. They play Madison Square Garden.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

They are on Netflix, they're on YouTube. They. They do well everywhere. But there's a panel and they usually have a guest comedian or someone. Shane Gillis, Kyle Dun.

[Dana Carvey]

Again, we talk about that. And we also talk about how he accidentally got inside the 2024 presidential election and was for a while talked about as the person who might have tilted the electricity derailed.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

In a different way. And that's a really interesting story.

[David Spade]

He did a Puerto Rico joke. That's how some people might only know him just from hearing about it, from.

[Dana Carvey]

The Madison Square Garden thing with Hulk Hogan and everything. He was in that made a joke. It trended for weeks and it was.

[David Spade]

Got a lot of attention. And then, you know. And he'll tell you all about that. We won't give it away, but. So here we go. We got Tony Hinchcliffe. Very funny guy. Look at that chair.

[Dana Carvey]

I know. Yeah, we're. That. Is there an explanation? Well, I love it personally, but are you on a set? Are you.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

No, this is the middle of my home, actually. I. I finally made money after a decade and a half plus of really, really struggling. And I decided, you know what? If I'm. I'm gonna buy stuff for my home, I'm gonna do it crazy in the way that I've always imagined in the.

[David Spade]

Gold chair, first order business.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I like that of you.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Championship belt.

[Dana Carvey]

That is so. I know. Is that ufc, Dana White.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

That's pro wrestling. That's wwe, the World Heavyweight Champion right now.

[Dana Carvey]

So we're catching you at a time because we ask people a lot sometimes because I'm curious about celebrity Net worth and things like that. But the first time you make a million dollars or this is your first really grandiose grabbing something. This house. Is this the first time?

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah. Yep, first time. And it was not city. It's in the middle of Austin, Texas.

[David Spade]

Okay.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Okay. Nice city, Nice house. Love it. It's kind of fun when you can actually go look at something nice like that you never even thought you could look at.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

It's the wildest thing. There were all these real estate agents when I moved to town. I think they all thought that I already had a lot of money, but I didn't really. I got it here anyway. Not.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, we'll. We'll break that up.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah. I don't want to push everybody away.

[Dana Carvey]

No, no, no, we understand that. You know, there's a. It comes with a price. I mean, you're famous and you're wealthy and there's stuff that happens. It's not a complaint. It's just an observation. But I'm just curious. Like when I was coming through and I don't know, I got it for a little bit, then I didn't. But whatever. I wanted like a movie theater, recording studio, swimming pool, a half court basketball.

[David Spade]

Jesus.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm just clicking off things that. That I would be a really good swimming pool. Like a. I didn't realize.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

I thought you were a comedic comedian and comedic actor. I didn't realize you were a rapper. Dana Carvey.

[David Spade]

Yeah. He has a rap album.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, I can rap.

[David Spade]

Give me a down, some beads.

[Dana Carvey]

Give me a word. Pepper, Pepper, Pepper. Yeah, Pepper. See a leper. What you gonna say? Are you on an upper? Take yourself downtown. Don't wipe off that frown. Come on, man. You like a biff? You like Tony Hincliffe?

[David Spade]

Yeah. Oh, Jesus, I gotta jump off.

[Dana Carvey]

I know it's terrible. But. But I. But I. I had so much fun. I liked your moves. But anyway, Tony, you could put him.

[David Spade]

Right up on Kill. Tony with that I would love. Dana comes out.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm already planning. I'm planning because I want to come on as a character I loved.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, obviously Shane and you have Kyle on there with his, His. His intense prosthetics. He looks with Elon Musk. Yeah. So.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

And he switched during that show. He went back into the prosthetic chair and turned into RFK Jr. Halfway through the episode.

[David Spade]

Oh, wow. Yeah. That's a guy.

[Dana Carvey]

Do you provide a guy or.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Oh, there's. There's a whole team for these ones now. It's all. It used to be just a Rubber mask many years ago.

[Dana Carvey]

Good luck.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

And now there's a whole truck and multiple people that. It's like a nightmare back there.

[David Spade]

You're putting some money back into the production. I like that. Right. Make it nice. I actually went there, Dana. It is nice. They treat you right. You go back there, got some good black and white shots of me and Tony walking around and I think those ones like I see clips all over the place, but which is great. Those clips have to help. They're just floating all over and they're always funny. And I think a great addition is when Shane comes in and does now what does he do as Trump? Does he put anything on or. He used to. Not now. He puts a little.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

I think it's just a little bronzer and a wig. I don't think wig.

[David Spade]

Okay.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I don't think it takes much.

[David Spade]

It's nothing crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying it. It's just the voice is so funny anyway and he's got his mannerism, so.

[Dana Carvey]

And he's. That's always fun. It. It really works. What. What I like what you've done is like the show has gotten so big, but it still feels like in a way it's made for a dollar. You know, it's still, you know, I. That would be the first worst thing is some idiot somewhere would say, you got to get in a fancy studio, man. The club ain't working. And like. So that's.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

That was part of the actual demands that I made was was we got to keep it real. We got to keep it raw. And in fact, my note post, the first one post this newest release today, I was talking to the production team and I said it was a little too flowy. It seemed like the people coming out were on the other side of the curtain. Like we need to get back to.

[David Spade]

A little more like the gaps, pauses. Yeah. Rough around the edges.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Bad intros. I mean awkward. Just get coming on the stage. Kind of feels like they're not ready to come on kind of something.

[David Spade]

Yeah. Mess ups. You need that. You need that. Those mess ups. I only know it from my one experience. Just we're talking about Kill Tony. We're talking to Tony Inchcliffe. That. That's over like on the radio.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Back.

[David Spade]

From a commercial or talking with Tony.

[Dana Carvey]

On K fog 105.

[David Spade]

And you know, I didn't know much about it in full disclosure. When I went, I knew about. I knew about the Comedy Store. And I'm never up past nine. 9:15. So I didn't even do, like, Roast Battle, which isn't this. But, you know, all these things pop up, and I think a lot of people are copying you now in a way of going, let's do some sort of different thing than just stand up. Yeah, I'm sure you're aware of that. And it was interesting because I didn't know how many people in Austin would come. I don't know if it was that way at the Comedy Store, but it's obviously bigger in Austin. And then they wait, is it in a restaurant or something?

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

It's at a bar right next door. Big, dingy, hollowed out, you know, barely a bar. Barely. Like, it's really just a bartender. Barely anybody has the money for drinks. You know what I mean? Like, it's a lot of tap water, a lot of water coolers and people waiting and a lot of broke, you know, struggling artists and people that are doing Ubereats and Postmates and all these side gigs to make extra money. It's a real vibe. It basically took the place of the front patio of the Comedy Store, which is where people used to kind of.

[David Spade]

Be camped out, just camp out and hang out and look for. They made it to la. Now what? They just go there and go. I got to be around. What I've always thought about Comedy Store, this, and now with Mothership and Joe's place there, people want to be part of it somehow. And this is actually a good way to cut the line because, you know, if you're not a big headliner, if you don't know Joe, it's very hard, I'm sure, to get into the comedy Mothership and just do a week. So these people, I think, Dane, you can explain what it. What is actually the. The breakdown of the Kill Tony show for the people aren't familiar.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Well, the show is basically, you know, people want to perform on stage, they get 60 seconds. It's all random. There's a bucket in which over 200 names are on the inside of it.

[David Spade]

So many people that want to do.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Sometimes it's over 300. It's been up to 350 at times when. Yeah, and in the arenas that we do and stuff, it's the same thing. And we try to fit as many of the signups as we can into a seated section in the arenas. But, yeah, at the Mothership, there's a big, dingy 6th street, nasty, gritty bar next door. And if I pull the name out of the bucket, a producer goes. Runs behind the headset. Yep. Out the back door with the headset and yells, you know, Jeremiah Smith. And everybody goes, hey, Jeremiah. And Jeremiah walks out and. And then they bring them right backstage. And then when the person before them is done, I call up Jeremiah Smith. And then they get 60 seconds uninterrupted. Completely uninterrupted. You know, a lot of the ripoff shows like you were mentioning, they just don't get that part. They just can't wait to possibly be funny. And they jump in at any point, trying to get their own laughs in and. But the format is pretty critical to the show because then, you know, wow, did they make the most of their 60 seconds or did they kind of bomb and they know what they're signing up for? You know, the show can be pretty ruthless if they do really poorly and didn't prepare. And so it's kind of like it could be a roast or it could.

[David Spade]

Be a real make or break because they. They can really score in two, three jokes or one joke.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

That you can win. And there's a panel. Let's say it's you. It's always you. And who else is it? Always.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Or.

[David Spade]

And then you have, like, extras. Right.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

There's my co host, Brian Redban, who mainly focuses on sound effects and making sure that everything's being recorded. Yeah, exactly. 60 seconds. The sound of a cat plays and.

[David Spade]

There'S not a buzzer. It just goes meow.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah, just a little something to let them know, like, last chance to wrap it up. Because seconds later, a giant, overwhelmingly loud bear roar happens, which completely cuts them off. And then I conduct an interview with them for an unlimited amount of time if I find them completely interesting. Actually, only a couple weeks ago, I think we had the record holder for all time. Longest interview. I think it was 23 or 24 minutes total on his first interview. The guy just had the most unbelievable answers to every. What was that guy's name? Alex Tarshon. Oh, my God. His shoes were falling apart. He works at a pizza joint. He has eight dogs. Turns out he was on the next week. We found out that he got kicked out of his apartment because the people found out because of his appearance on Kill Tony that he has eight dogs. He makes cartoons. He's just the. It was just hilarious. And you know, the interview parts. To me, that's the secret main part of the show. Everybody's like, oh, a minute to make it or break it. But really, it's the eight minutes in the interview part where people can play along and tag along and you get an idea of how they can improvise or if they're naturally funny. Sometimes they're so much funnier in the interview part than they even were with.

[David Spade]

Saves them. And also, you were, you're good because you're the guy that interviews them and you have to extract the right questions to make them funny or just stumble into something. And when you do. Well, my experience, I was there. You would come into something and then we would find out something. And then everyone yells and then it's like, oh, we hit something now, let's jump on that.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Exactly. And they can use that as material in their future and whatnot. And that's kind of what I'm digging for. I'm using my, my gut instincts to try to like, feel where there's something missing. Is it in their childhood? Is it in their dating life? Is it something they do for work? I used to, I was just telling somebody this the other day and it kind of hit me where this thing comes from because I was telling them, yeah, actually it was, it was Carrot Top we just had on and I was talking to him about how I used to fall asleep as a kid watching Letterman. I would sneak. I would put a towel under my doors that my angry, furious single mother wouldn't yell at me, and I would watch Letterman as a little kid. I would fall asleep to Letterman and I would stay up extra late and, and I would wake up extra early to listen to old school Howard Stern on terrestrial radio. So this interview thing is, it's only. And here I am 40 years old, 12 years into the show, and it's starting to hit me now. That's where it's kind of molded out of. My interview style comes from the preparedness and calm coolness and comedian style of Letterman, but mixed with the chaotic craziness and naughtiness kind of of old school. Howard Stern raised me. I didn't really have a dad in my life growing up as a kid. And these are the things that I looked up to was Letterman late at night, Stern first thing in the morning, and pro wrestling throughout the evening and days if I got to do it. And if you look at those three exact things and kind of mix them together with, with my job as main job as a stand up comedian. The show kind of just. It is exactly kind of that, you know, wow.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, for people or just some of our listeners, it's a phenomenon. And it, it's fascinating to me that usually every movie I've ever done, not many, but the behind the scenes was better than the Movie, you know, and you guys keep it like it's like the green room. I mean, there is no. And I. It's fascinating to me how you casually put this together, but it seems to really come through you completely, the sensibility and all the decisions. I mean, I know you have partners and other people, but it seems to be you. And I love it because an old school show business. The only thing we have was the Gong show that was like this. I don't know if you ever saw that. But yeah, it's not like your show, but it would be like an ancestor of it. And Letterman deconstructed Late Night in his own way for sure. And then, of course, the sarcasm at Howard Stern's brilliance of that. And then being really curious. I think when you're in that mindset and the person's there and, you know, this is now a vulnerable thing, maybe 13 years ago, but it's a big thing to be on Kill Tony and talking to you. And so I just was talking to David earlier, we walkie talkie and I said, you just have a real likability to you. Even though the show, you'd say, oh, it's mean or this and that. But yeah, there is a sweetness to the show. If you were not a nice guy, it wouldn't work.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Right.

[Dana Carvey]

They can sense that. So that's all I wanted to say. I'll see you guys tomorrow.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Those are some of the best parts for me is making the magical or not making. Because you can't even make them. It's almost like deep sea fishing. And you're just hoping sometimes that a bucket. A perfect episode, like Monday's episode that we just taped. Right? Let me just take you through this one because it's kind of a perfect example. A few months ago, here I am getting stoned at my place in the afternoon, thinking, what could. What. Where are we going? What's the next. Right. What's. What's something that'll throw off the fans that have watched 730 episodes of this. They watch it every week. They see me and my homies doing it quite often. What's something that I could throw into the mix and somehow, some way, one of the. One of the many messages that I've gotten recently from somebody's assistant or friend or friend of an assistant or whatever is that, hey, Carrot Top might be interested in doing the show, who I've met a couple times before. So I'm like, hell, yeah, that's perfect. This sounds crazy. Let's try it. So we exchange. We Exchange numbers and we talk on the phone. He's on his boat off the coast of Florida at the time. And, you know, naturally, just like anybody or anything, we all want everybody to like us, right? Isn't that really the secret? We all want to have a mutual respect for one another. So here he is. He's got nothing to gain, right. He's on a yacht off the coast of Florida.

[David Spade]

Yeah. He rakes in cash.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Falling out of control.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Life is good. He doesn't need anything. But, you know, people want to be part of the fun course, modern show. So there I am talking to him, and he's going, you really want to have him? And I go, yeah. And, you know, what about. What if you brought, like, a trunk of props and kind of did some of your famous prop stuff throughout the show? And he's like, really? You sure? Like, I don't know, like, I could just be a normal comedian and sit there. I go, yeah, you could. But we always do that. And the. In our video and our cameras and everything is so good now, and we're at such a high level that we can really capture this. I think it could be great. And, you know, we set it up and he. He, you know, is kind of. I can feel the weariness at the time. Right. Naturally. Like, really, props. Is he setting me up? This and that kind of. I. He doesn't say that. I just kind of feel it. Yeah, you feel it like, 4%. And as it gets closer, there I am last week going, looking at my schedule, going, wow, I booked Carrot Top solo, right? Like, anything can happen here. One thing that I've learned from doing this show so long is that egos can be the trickiest part. Right? If I give a comic that I started with, you know, 18 years ago, the seat next to me, they're happy to be there. They're looking to sell tickets. They're going to be funny, this and that. But I have to make sure that the guest really feels special and wants to be there and this and that. So last week, I'm like, holy shit, am I crazy? Because this could just be a nuclear meltdown. I've never worked with Carrot Top before. What if he goes out there and doesn't like something? About what?

[David Spade]

It's funny either way. Almost, right?

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Exactly. Exactly. Almost. Until someone goes, yeah, I don't want that episode out. I'm leaving. Or they storm off. We once had Ric Flair storm off of an episode because he got way too drunk during the. Way too drunk during the day at a hotel. Lobby. And he got mad because we were making fun of someone who donates their time to coaching kids baseball. And basically I called the guy a pedophile in the moment. It was a joke that worked perfectly fine. No one in their right side state of mind would have been offended. And he goes, I don't like it when people make fun of people that donate their time. I'm out of here. And I thought he was kidding, but he left. Ended up being one of the big highlights of the show's history because it's real.

[Dana Carvey]

It's real.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

People love the fact that Drunk Rick Flair walked off. But anyway, cut to Monday and it ends up being an unbelievable episode. And I mean, Carrot Top. Right after the first comedian says they work at a restaurant, he busts out a fork that has chopsticks attached to the backside for white people that might not know how to use chopsticks. You'll love this. It's a fork on this way. And the chopsticks are just clacking together. Hilarious. And that was just the first thing that he pulled out of this trunk.

[David Spade]

It's smart. He's waiting for a spot and then he puts it in, which is smart.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Oh, so genius.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, that. That's killer.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

And that's being able to make it, you know, refillable and fun. And I make it entertaining for myself, hoping that the fans of the show are with me kind of, you know what I mean? Just on the adventure to see something kind of different. Because you guys know all these shows, you have, you know, pre interviewed guests and everything's kind of a lot more set up than a lot of people think it is. So this whole thing being improvised, it's a huge risk, huge reward, huge risk. Millions of people are going to catch it and you don't know what's going to happen. And I. And the. And in closing with this Carrot Top thing, just using it as an example, if they gave Emmys away to podcasts, I think this would be an episode that would win an Emmy. Carrot Top on Kiltoni. Out of nowhere, almost like, what in. And I'm not dissing Carrot Top here, but it feels like I'm introducing a whole new era.

[David Spade]

Sure, you've got a whole big crowd.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

15 to 35 year olds. To the missing mystique of Carrot Top.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. What. What's old is new again, when you were telling this story in my brain, I'm going, oh, that's going to destroy. Because it's. I don't know the word silly. It's abstract, it's a guy who made these props and comes out one at a time. For a new audience of young people, this is revolutionary. It's not a guy with the elbow on the thing going, I jacked off in front of my cat today. It's just, no, I'm going to be balls out. Funny, abstract thing. And by the way, I've heard Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock sing Carrot Top praises.

[David Spade]

Sure.

[Dana Carvey]

Because who else is doing his act?

[David Spade]

And he's a nice guy, too. I mean, I went and saw him in Vegas just to. I think it was the luxor. We were there a night early. I also go see Carrot Top. No hate or anything. Just like, let's go see. I haven't seen him. And I just hear. And people like to use him as, like, a punchline, but you go, something's working. And we laughed our asses off. He's pulling out a toilet. He's playing. It's so ridiculous. I'm glad someone's doing this. Yeah. Because I can't think of this.

[Dana Carvey]

I think that was brilliant. I mean, what a great job to have him and understand. And of course, they wanted to see all the props and his job.

[David Spade]

They don't know. They want to see him. They don't know what he does. And they're like, oh. Because they're also waiting for you, who's the boss, to say, oh, like this guy. And if they go, okay, they give him a chance. And then hopefully he comes through. Which jumping in, when it kind of fit in. The story is really.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Great.

[Dana Carvey]

Inspired. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, is this out now?

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

It's coming out in two weeks.

[Dana Carvey]

Two weeks, okay. Yeah, Yeah, I gotta see that one. That sounds hysterical.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

And it had everything. It had. It had people bombing, which is what people love. People doing good, which people love. It had great interviews, which people love. And we had a guy win a golden ticket. This. This amazing, cool, obese black man came out with children. Children's books for adults that he had written. And he brought them out and. Yeah, it's just the funny. It was so unbelievably funny that I realized this guy's probably gonna make tens and tens of thousands of dollars just from the. Get me letting him give the shout out. Because the front page, the first page was so funny. I think the name of the children's book for adults was, man, fuck the them kids. Yeah. And the first page he said. He goes, just read the first, very first page. And it said, like, sorry to all the pedophiles that bought this book thinking it was something else, man.

[David Spade]

Right.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

These kids. But he ended up winning a golden ticket, which is a super rare thing.

[David Spade]

What does that do?

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Which means that you can come back on the show anytime, as long as there's not another golden ticket winner already scheduled. So you basically just get to come back without having to worry about signing up and waiting at the bar next door in the bucket. You get to kind of, like, know.

[David Spade]

That's a tough way, because I think when I did it, we. How many do you get through on an average night? 20.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

No, it seems. It feels like that probably about. With the regulars all together. Probably about 12 or 13. Okay, about nine bucket poles, three regulars. Right.

[David Spade]

Because it's not just one minute. It's a bunch of bullshit. And maybe we'll talk for a second and then I'll. You know, it's organized chaos. Because before I went out, I think. I think it was me and David tell. And you said, let him get through it. Like you told me. You know, like you said just now. And then I'll probably start, and then you guys jump in. And it's a mixture of that. Like, I'm sure we got greedy. We want to jump in while you're doing an interview. But it all worked out.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Oh, it's always great. It's always organically different, and the people love it being different. If someone goes on a run and they take over for a bit, that's great. If they're quiet for 15 minutes straight, that's totally fine. It's just the moment and the difference and the vibe and the energy. And it's kind of what makes it its own thing. The fact that it's unproduced and doesn't have network notes is the reason why.

[David Spade]

Yeah, sure.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah. Thank God Netflix got that. I couldn't believe.

[David Spade]

I think I was smart about that. Oh, it's unpolished. And you just. Luckily, if they just go in somewhere like that, Dan, and say, okay, whatever this is works. Pull this. Put it somewhere else. But let's just get it exactly the same and don't spruce it up and make it Hollywood. It's the thing everyone hates. You know what I mean? They go, oh, they ruined. Ruined it. They ruined it.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

And in fact, we, like I said, we accidentally, organically did that for the Netflix. For the first Netflix taping, and it was on, and it falls on me. You know, it's. My note to myself is like, oops, we did what they would have wanted to do accidentally. Little more chaos, little more improvising on my part instead of going to what I have next on my little notes. Yeah, and. And don't let the Netflix of it all get to my head, you know.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh wow, that's. It's really hard to do. Especially it's Netflix, you know.

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[Dana Carvey]

It'S just very interesting to me that this new digital media and it's been around for a while but this, this show, it had to happen if you were. I mean it's so entertaining and so real and the numbers, I don't know, I mean Bert Kreischen was the first one we had on the podcast and he kind of said it. Not, you know, Bert's such a sweet guy but he's like, well I get way more numbers, more people than the Today show or any of these, any of these television shows. What are your meaning?

[David Spade]

YouTube. Right?

[Dana Carvey]

YouTube numbers playing arenas. Just, just all this energy around this. I don't know who is in this new, I don't call a rat pack. There is sort of like there's Shane and you and Bert and Tom and the last seven, eight years creating their own ecosystem, their own universe. It's very cool to watch from someone who came from the 60s 70s.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

It's, it's a whole interesting world we're living in because something that isn't applied to the even just the simple numbers is the amount of shares, the amount of the length watched. For example, like been back in the day, if the Tonight show had, let's just say 4 million people watching it. Well, what are those real? 4 million is 200000 of them hospitals and nursing homes and is a million of them, you know, grandmothers falling asleep or you know who's exactly watching. Whereas with like a Kiltoni for example, a hundred percent of the viewers are comedy fans or at least 98, the 2% that might be watching it for the first time because they went down a weird rabbit hole, might be there but they're gonna get hooked too. You know, I'm joking about moms and grandmothers, but they are, they 100 love the show. Everybody always says to me I, I had my mom glance at it and I can't believe that she loves it. But it's. They love the fact that they're what? They can't believe that they're watching someone get a magical opportunity to have a chance that they Literally were just on the street not knowing if they had a chance. And now they're trying to make it. So there's really something for everybody. But my point is, is also, you know, a huge factor is. Yeah. So if there's 4 million people watching the Tonight show, how many people actually make it to the stand up comedy part, which is what, after two interviews or whatever and a who monologue and this and that. And also. And also. Oh, the length, you know, it's 2 hours and 15 minutes long. Whereas grand total. What is the Tonight show? If you take out the commercials? 45 minutes, 55 minutes or something. I have no idea.

[Dana Carvey]

42 probably.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Still an hour.

[David Spade]

An hour. Yeah.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

So when you think of the overall engagement and the locked inness of these shows, you know, they're there. It's a destination. They get used to it. It becomes a weekly habit. And. Yeah, so it's a whole different.

[Dana Carvey]

I just want to ask one quick question. So the guy who got the golden ticket, did. Did he tear up or was it. It. Is it kind of emotional? It. Yeah, in that moment. So that. That's another frequency you're hitting on the show that you can also change. There's a reality component to this at.

[David Spade]

Times, like America's Got Talent. Like the same people like that, you know, because seeing people that night, I'm a little. Not as rough as like a tell. A tell is a sharpshooter. So he's probably the worst person I could sit with because he can. He's a crowd worker. He can say anything about anything. And I also don't want to go for the jugular on these guys because I'm part of the people that go, I can't be a dream killer. But then of course, I get caught up in it and want to get laughs. But some people that do great, it's a big deal. Some people get crushed. And that's just the rough world they're entering. And they can't all win and totally flip it around. Yeah.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

You know what they're signing up for and they can sign up again. One of my favorite features of the show is when I notice, and this happened on Monday as well, is a comedian came up and crushed. And I go, you look familiar. You've been on this show before, right? And he goes, yeah, two years ago. I go, it didn't go that good two years ago, did it? He goes, hell no, it did. And so, like you're watching the actual growth in real time.

[David Spade]

He thought of that for two years. Yeah.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

And not Only to answer your question about the golden ticket was, did he tear up? Not only did we see him wipe a tear, but again, this is. I'm talking about. This guy is literally like 6 foot 4, 350 pound, aggressive black man. So you're watching him go like that, and it hits so much harder than someone that looks like a, you know, low testosterone white guy. Like the three of us.

[David Spade]

Yeah, me also. We. We put like, even in that movie Busboys that Theo and I did, we brought in three guys from your show. So that's to play these. These guys that work with us, Dana. But I don't know if you know them, but they know him from the show and they came in and they were cool. I think one was on when I was there. But they all do well and they all have a following and it's just fun to pepper in stuff like that because the people that know will know. And it's just another layer in there of tapping into what's going on and that shows going on.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah, and those regulars that you had on, you know, these are. This is a very special thing that gets into the territory where nothing like it's ever been done before. Because, yeah, there's an America's Got Talent element. Yeah, there's a little bit of a Letterman Sterny interview element. But one thing that this show has that's never been done is exactly that. The. The three, four, five regulars that are doing a new minute almost every single week, people are watching them come up with everything. And it's a high pressure situation. Honestly, I am. I would be scared to death if I was them. Here I am controlling the spaceship calmly. Meanwhile, I look at them like, sheesh. Again. Granted, I might be writing ballpark about, give or take a minute every week, naturally, on stage from performing multiple nights a week. But these guys are doing it publicly in front of millions and millions of people. And when those people go and buy their ticket, they're going to see the more refined version all together, their hour of the stuff that they watched them debut.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Kind of like watching someone write a hit on an acoustic guitar and sing it to you acapella. And then you get to see how it comes out in the studio kind of the. When it. When they. When they really work on it. So people are literally watching these guys grow and make a career in front of their very eyes. Like, Cam Patterson is like a Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle type. Chris Rock. Young, young, young. You know, only a few years in, 25, 26 years old. And they're getting to watch this freak of nature become a superstar in real time. He just booked a huge movie with Kevin Hart and is going to be out for multiple weeks. And, you know, it's like a main character, main big role. And. And people have gotten to watch his process, not just see a star. Right.

[David Spade]

You're right.

[Dana Carvey]

Not. Not exactly like. But you might be a little bit like a new Lorne Michaels. You know, I'm sure we could fit a. A stadium full of people who are. Have such gratitude for the experience and the feedback and then coming back doing better. And how many of you launched.

[David Spade]

It's just like when you see Eddie Murphy, Dana. Like, the first time we see him, it's. For me, it's delirious or it's raw. It's a full, polished hour so that you're like, holy shit, this guy's good. But if you can see he's good in one minute, and then he comes back and he's good again. And then you're like, oh, is this a fluke? It's like writing a hit song over and over. It's hard to do even a minute, you know, probably harder.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah. And let me remind you, some few with like a Cam Patterson, for example, very few, maybe one out of every 20 or 30 minutes is kind of rough. And immediately as soon as the cat meows and he's, that's my time. He goes, I hated that minute. That sucked. I go, no, it's not bad. He goes, no, that sucked, man. Yeah, so they get to see it. That makes it real, right? It's like, oh, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Right after they bomb, they're able to. With you guiding them going, oh, I just. I just sucked. When you're playing open mics back in the day, they didn't get that opportunity exactly. Humiliated.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

And the millions of people watching get to go, holy. Every week, he works so hard. It's not easy to kill. He makes it look easy. And then you have a rough. You have one rough week and it's like, oh, it's. It's real. This could all go off the wire. Like, yeah, it's kind of like Lorne Michaels, but at the same time, even SNL has its own writers and producers and everything. A bunch of people clank together, right?

[David Spade]

Help make a star. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

These guys are out there sinking or swimming on their own, so it's really exciting. I get kind of nervous every time I bring up a regular because I do want them to do good, you know, I want them to shine up.

[David Spade]

Cam's a nice kid. Danny's. He's good looking kid. He. I saw him at the Improv the other night. Surprised to see him at the Improv in la, but I guess he comes out here and. But all those guys do well. The one guy, the tall guy was on cameo. They make money too.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah, they're doing good. William Montgomery is one of the highest paid people on Cameo. Casey rockets all over on tour, non stop work ethic, running around super physical. Ari, Maddie from Estonia is just destroying one of the truly the best stand up comedians. And he's, you know, still kicking out a new minute every single week. In fact he does this thing where he flexes on everybody because we let the regulars go as long as they want. They're not just limited to a minute. So he does a thing where he like on Monday dropped 2 minutes and 30 seconds just for the sake of the. How long he wrote that bit. So it's really crazy what's. What's going on. It's exciting because I get to be a fan of.

[David Spade]

Sure. You just get to what. You're right there.

[Dana Carvey]

I. I just have to insert this at this point. I've just learned a hell of a lot about your show.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And I admire it on all. And how many frequencies I started to use that again or metrics it operates on. And feeding into why it is such a success. You go, oh, they, they go up. These comedians bomb and they. On them. I don't know. You know, it's just completely comprehensive. I just want to say that I was in Vegas. I was at the Wynn Hotel. I wasn't. I was playing a private date and across the way out the window. I was way on a high floor. Every 10 minutes early in the evening I would see you 100ft tall.

[David Spade]

Although.

[Dana Carvey]

International. I don't know how big a room. But you were just playing there. Right. So just for a second. How's your stand up career going? It's a whole other side thing. You're playing a big rooms.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

I mean I, I've never had more fun. You know all the stuff that, that, that I've worked on and I joke about it now in the hour is like I always. When everything was kind of. I've always liked to. How do I say this in a non corny way?

[Dana Carvey]

I like, I like corny.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah. I like the idea of pushing the crowd away and then having to win them back over and touch on really, really, you know, racial issues and you know, sometimes what would be considered stuff that could get someone in trouble. And I focused on that throughout the entire pandemic, you know, when I found out I could move to Texas and be back to performing indoors rather than, you know, outside in Los Angeles with cars six feet apart from one another.

[David Spade]

And that supernova gig, that one. Oh, yeah, Magic Castle.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, terrible. And, and I focused on all this even though it looked like Netflix and a lot of things were going cleaner and more, you, if you want to be successful, you got to be, you know, mainstream or whatever. And I really doubled down and focused on, you know, what I wanted to talk about. And even the stuff that happened with the, with the, with the Trump rally a few months ago, like it's all applied now and it gives me kind of permission, it feels with my standup to really, really, really, finally, after 18 years, talk about the type of stuff that I want to talk about.

[David Spade]

And they kind of know what they're getting. Even that Trump thing, which. Did you ever think if he lost somehow that people would be coming after you for that?

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, I know. I actually found out from the administration a few days before the election. I was in communication with them the entire time. And on the Sunday morning before the election, I woke up to a text message that said, call me when you can. And I looked at the time. It was, it was sent at 6:15am from the guy that booked me for the Trump roast, a high level advisor in the camp. Like that's at all the meetings and everything. And I might. And I just knew it wasn't good. And I called him and he goes, hey, man. Just to let you know, because the press writes their stuff up before it happens, before the election. They write it up. This is what we're going to put out. If Trump wins with the actual statistics, this is what we're going to put out of Kamala wins with the actual statistics. And he goes, just to let you know, the press already has it written up. If Trump loses, they are totally 100 going to blame you. And I now, I work in politics. My career is going to be totally over. I don't know how it's going to work for you as a comedian. And I'm literally like, oh, because now what? Now I've lost. Now I've lost basically everyone. The Republicans and the Democrats. I'm stuck with literally the, the 6,000 people in the country that truly don't give a, about anything at all.

[David Spade]

You got that crowd.

[Dana Carvey]

Still, I, I remember this. Well, I'm glad you brought it up because I, I wanted to talk to you about it and you kind of. I understand it now, but it was like for about two, three weeks. Your name was really everywhere. New York Times, they're tying this to me. A very benign, just silly joke. Please, people. About Puerto Rico and floating garbage, whatever. And they ran with it politically. But I just thought there was a period of time where you were sort of gonna potentially, from that joke, reorientate how America tilts in the presidential election. I don't think any comedian that I could think of in the history of comedy has been in that position. And now getting the confirmation that that's how they were going to write it. That. That. Yeah, that whole rally was a trip. I mean, but you were. I just thought it was fascinating what happened with that.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah, the plan was to just go out there and kind of have fun and be part of this wild gang of. Of kind of, you know, I don't know. I'm sure a lot of people aren't gonna like any part of what I'm saying, but don't worry. What could possibly mean that the.

[Dana Carvey]

The Hulk Hogan of it and the Bobby Kennedy. Yeah, just sort of the what if you're on the left, it would be the rogues gallery of misfits and anti status quo rebels, you know, basically. Yeah.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

And it was just. It wasn't exactly how I expected it to go. They had me cold open right after the national anthem, which if you know anything about my comedy style, literally, I don't even open. I don't cold open anyone's show and mine. Nobody's. That would be.

[David Spade]

No.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Not crazy to do, especially at a political rally. Especially with the lights all the way up. Which isn't exactly, for some reason how I pictured it. And I mean, audience completely lit all the way to the Raptors, Madison Square.

[David Spade]

You're like in a grocery store, basically. Yeah. Oh, you need to dim it down. I don't want to see after the front row, but you go, oh, so this is. The lights are staying like this. Okay, I go on now. All right.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah. And the audience was not miked for comedy levels. It was for pure rally levels, which it turns out is hot death. If you're listening to a clip of comedy. Because in the room, I'm telling you, there's. There's tens of thousands of witnesses that were there. It was a success. I swear. It was wild. There was nothing but high fives and stuff right afterwards. And then it didn't take long. It was so live.

[David Spade]

Before you go. Wait a second.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Oh, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Some narrative developed that you Bombed or something. Was that what happened?

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

I saw, I was backstage looking at the monitors. There's like a whole crew of, you know, it's literally, it's like Hogan walks by, Dr. Phil's pumping Rudy Giuliani, it's Donald Trump Jr. Next to me. And I said to him, I go to Don Jr. I said, man, this, they're trying, I think this is like becoming a news story. This, they're focusing in on this one joke I made about Puerto Rico. And he goes, does it seem like they're outraged? And I go, yeah. He goes, welcome to the team. And I realized right then I'm like, oh yeah, they've been bashing Elon Musk, calling him a Nazi and all of this crazy stuff. Stuff for a guy that, yeah, it's free wi fi to the poor parts of the world. Builds electric cars for 100% of everybody and this and that and everything. Nicest people that I've, I've never seen anyone help more people in the world than Joe Rogan. And meanwhile, he's a Nazi. That's a Nazi. That's about a racist. A racist, a right wing, far right wing. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm that now. This is crazy. I'm a pot smoking, pro choice, anti war centrist.

[David Spade]

There's no way they really throw Nazi around. It loses a little of its luster when you just use it every single day. You start to go, wait, whatever. It used to be a real stab and now you go, I guess people just use it. Kids use it now.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Now, according to a lot of people, 53% of the popular vote of the country is Nazis. I guess so. What a world we're living in. We're 53% of the people can be labeled Nazis.

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

Dana. Aren't.

[Dana Carvey]

I don't get any Nazi vibe from you. There's other vibes I get. No, I'm just kidding. But it's. It is a fascinating world. I don't think I. I always say this. We. We. We got the wheel, we got fire, we got the printing press, we got this, we got nukes, we got nothing. Prepared us for social media. And if we. If the world does end and they're digging through the rubble, they'll just. They'll find a little box and all they'll hear is a voice. Go, Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg. Yeah, it is literally him. It's all social media, but the news.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Comes from the social. The news comes from social media now.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Like, it happens there. First, the news was reporting outrage about a joke because of the tweet that. That came out that said racist speaker at racist rally had this to say about Puerto Rico. Not comedian speaker, not joke comment.

[David Spade]

Right.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

The way they label these things. And if you don't know me, you're.

[David Spade]

It sounds that's the first a lot of people saw of you. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

But the people that didn't. With that said. And this is kind of where I think this backfired for the mainstream media and whatnot. Where it backfired is I don't think they counted on because I'm not, at the time especially wasn't considered a mainstream guy. You know, I don't think they factored in the power of Kill, Tony. The millions and millions of people and the millions and millions of people that watched the most watched program of the year last year, which was the Roast of Tom Brady. So when they called me a speaker and said that I had raised the. His comments, I think a lot of people, And I know for a fact a lot of people go, wait a second, this is. I think a lot of people realize the news can be extremely tilted by this exact instance, because a lot of people are like, wait, I saw him be more racist on the Roast of Tom Brady. He called a black lesbian and this and that and whatever. You know, it's kind of what I go for. And they're like, that's what he does. So, you know.

[Dana Carvey]

The news cycle has changed, and the networks and the traditional outlets had Monopolies. And then they could cancel someone and on them and there was no place really to go. And now immediately, you can go on Joe Rogan or wherever and set the record straight. You know.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah, I taped another episode of Kill Tony less than 24 hours after that rally. And I was the news at that point. I mean, it was me all day. My guests canceled on me that day. I had, oh, no big guests that came in from Los Angeles for it. And. And yeah, it's it. But I again, you know, the, the real comedians here, the real standups, can't wait to be on that episode. And it ended up paying off big time for them because it was an extra oh episode because tune in.

[David Spade]

And also the people hear the joke go, well, he's doing a joke even though it's race related. There's a lot of jokes out there that are just poking fun of stuff.

[Dana Carvey]

There's Puerto Rico, there's pollution in the ocean. It was just a connection of a joke. It wasn't like seeing I got to make a joke about Puerto Rico.

[David Spade]

I hate that. Yeah, wasn't.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah. And the thing that happens when someone puts a. When they focus in on a single clip is that you're missing out on the fact that, oh, I totally, 100% made a point to make fun of everybody. Latinos, whites, blacks, Israel, Palestine, my own mother. Strategically, that was part of the tone of the thing. It was supposed to be about free speech and how we can make fun of everything. And that's another thing that kind of happened is a lot of people saw, oh, wow, this campaign might be the one with kind of a sense of humor. Even though.

[Dana Carvey]

Did you have dogs are different than cats bit in your back pocket?

[David Spade]

I have one I can lend you just in case.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

No, but I did have one about eating dogs and cats. And I'm not even kidding you, that that was actually in it too.

[David Spade]

They're eating the dogs. Reading the cat.

[Dana Carvey]

Of course you have a bit. I, I love the freedom. I'm not in the world. My brand is something very different in what I do, but I laugh my ass off in your stuff. And when I'm behind the scenes with comedians, we're all doing stuff like that. This is the only way to make comedians laugh. Behind the scenes is something shocking, something so foul or incorrect that you just laugh. And of course in the room, everyone knows there's nothing behind it. It's just because you're not supposed to say it. And so I.

[David Spade]

Even a good comedy crowd, if you're in a Good comedy club. And that's like, a secret place to do all this stuff. You can even get oohs and ahs and. But they still think it's funny. They. But outside of that safety net, it seems weird that people can take it wrong or pretend to take it wrong and really go after you.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Right, Exactly.

[David Spade]

And we all get it.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

We get it. A politician or a lawyer or someone like that doing that. Yeah. That's outside the parameters of their thing. Like, them doing that would be kind of crazy.

[David Spade]

Sure.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, for me, I could only do for a while, Western European white males, you know, as far as voices like Swedes or French or whatever. And I. I couldn't do South America or Asia or India, but I'm working my way east, doing some Mediterranean accents and working my way slowly back toward India. And I will eventually, on this podcast, I do do a Japanese man suffering an earthquake. And that's. That's. That's been.

[David Spade]

Okay, you want to show it to him real quick?

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah. What does that sound like I gotta hear?

[David Spade]

Actually, let's just fly on the wall. Yeah, do it.

[Dana Carvey]

Japanese man on the phone with his friend and an earthquake happens. Be like, I don't have a phone. So anyway, that. I know it has nothing to do with Japanese people, but I just know that that sound and rhythm makes my brain happy, so.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Oh, that brings me so much joy.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. Making someone, a comedian laugh.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I know he's the guy to do that one, too. That's for sure.

[Dana Carvey]

It's fun.

[David Spade]

That could be your minute, Dana. That would have been part of your minute. You'd have, like, another 20 seconds. You have to bring your laptop up on stage.

[Dana Carvey]

When. When I can think of something to do on that show. I would love to come on you could. I. I. But I would confer with you, but, you know, there's certain impressions you just. You feel like doing with prosthetic makeup.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And there's just SNL and kind of you guys now, and it's fun. I mean, I thought Adam Ray's Biden was really, really a funny take on it. His whole scared attitude and everything.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah, yeah, he's fantastic. We put that together in six days. I texted him on a Tuesday morning. I said, hey, do you have a Biden? Because he's. He's always done Dr. Phil, and it's always been a wild success on the show. Guests of the year 2023. And it's like just the. One of the biggest pops you could ever hear is Dr. Phil coming out on a Kill Tony Show.

[Dana Carvey]

I mean, people just said he starts swearing and stuff. Yeah. Such a funny take to bring out Dr. Phil in 2025 and have a kill. It's kind of like really Adam. And then you see it's killing. Go ahead.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah. And so I hit him up on a Tuesday afternoon saying, hey, do you have a Joe Biden impression? And he goes, just. I just do five seconds of it in my stand up act. I've never been in character as Biden before. And I go, what are you doing Monday? He goes, oh, let's go, let's do it. Because like at the time they were having debates and stuff, Biden and Trump. And so I knew he was going to be Biden. So I hit up Shane, who's a big, obviously huge Kill Tony fan and fan of Adam Ray's Dr. Phil and his in character work.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

And I go, hey, Shane, I got, I got Adam Ray doing Joe Biden on Monday. And he goes, I'm supposed to go to Philadelphia to write the next season of Tires, but I'll extend my. I'll stay here an extra day. I have to do Trump with Biden. And so it's so fun how these things come together. It's literally like they want to be there, they want to do it, they want to collaborate with each other. It's not, it's not like a job at all. It's like a jam.

[David Spade]

Such fun. Shane's such a home run hitter too. And go out there and perfect them both.

[Dana Carvey]

I'll tell you the purity of it, because they're seated side by side and they're facing out to the audience. They're not. You didn't build a set. There's not movement walking. It's just they're in character, just going forward and it. And again, it feels loose.

[David Spade]

You know, they kind of wait to have something funny to say. They wait and they have something. They jump in or. What do you think of that, Trump? I mean, that's hard to do. It's hard to be funny, be in an impression and ad lib off what's going on right that second. It's just.

[Dana Carvey]

No, they were, they were having so much fun and it was.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah. Shane is second to none. He sees things on multiple levels like nobody else. There's a guy during that episode, I go, what do you do? He goes, I work at Trader Joe's. He goes, that's what we call this guy, Trader Joe.

[David Spade]

I was putting that together, going, oh, good one.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

In a second. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

He's He's. Oh, he's great.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

He's like that all the time. By the way, we all live here in Austin, Texas now. And I mean, oh my God. Off stage, on stage, at a bar next door, here at his place, in the swimming pool, everywhere. He can just lay you out all the time. Incredible.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I'm jealous. That sounds. Yeah, just swimming sounds fun.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Anyway, anything else for this young man, Dana? I think we did a good job.

[Dana Carvey]

I thought it was very interesting interview. I think for a lot of people who maybe only know you from the Madison Square Garden thing will be like, hey, yeah, just all I can say is, you know, really, congratulations. I know it sounds corny, but it's. It's not easy you to. To make it in show business. Not easy to take control and create something like this and buy a house that I did get it online. I mean, it's 1100 square feet, which is shocking to me.

[David Spade]

That's awesome.

[Dana Carvey]

Does not have a pool yet. He's waiting. But anyway, just, just, just congratulations. It's an incredible achievement and you're just in the pocket and no one's with you and no one's telling you what to do, so.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Well, thank you. Obviously, as a, as a 40 year old, I have been looking up to you guys and been a super, super huge fan my entire life. I don't know how when mentioning Letterman and Stern and the pro wrestling influence, how I could possibly leave out. I guess I felt, it goes without saying, saying how powerful SNL and your guys's movies were to me. And so let it be known that, you know, I'm. I wanted to do this to hopefully be able to get you guys eventually on an airplane to Austin, Texas to do the show together. It would be mind.

[David Spade]

That would be fun. Yeah, we're gonna do.

[Dana Carvey]

We would love it.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

I can't wait. I'll be, I'll be bothering you guys for that.

[David Spade]

And Tony, my, my waitress this morning had just seen you, brought you up organically, did not know anything about this and I think maybe the Honda center, maybe she just saw you somewhere. I don't know where, but she had high praise. So good job on just doing stand up on top of doing everything else.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

And we'll see you soon, bud.

[Tony Hinchcliffe]

Thank you for coming on, guys. A real honor and a pleasure. Have a great day. Thank you.

[Dana Carvey]

Thanks.

[David Spade]

Take care, guys. Nice to meet you, Dana. This has been a presentation of Odyssey. Please follow, subscribe, Leave a Like a review all the stuff. Smash the. That button, whatever it is, wherever you get your podcasts. Fly on the Wall is executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss Berman of Odyssey and Heather Santoro. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.