Nezza Singing the National Anthem Aftermath + Juicy Tell ALL!

Summary

Fool Coverage with Manny MUA and Laura Lee

Episode: Nezza Singing the National Anthem Aftermath + Juicy Tell ALL!
Release Date: December 12, 2025
Guest: Nezza

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Episode Overview

This episode of Fool Coverage brings a lively, heartfelt interview with multi-hyphenate artist and influencer Nezza, fresh off the viral fallout of her singing the U.S. national anthem in Spanish at a Dodgers game. Manny, Laura, and Nezza delve into the full story behind the headlines — from her emotions leading up to the event, the aftermath, and the outpouring of support and controversy that followed — plus a deep dive into Nezza’s background, career, and what’s next. Expect laughter, candor, and loads of inspiring (and juicy) stories about life in the internet spotlight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introductions, Catch-Ups, and "Peak & Pit" (01:18–06:35)

• Nezza joins Manny and Laura as their special guest, with the trio reminiscing about their first meeting on a collaborative David Dobrik video and joking about the unpredictable nature of YouTube content titles.
• The hosts’ weekly "Peak & Pit" segment:
  • Nezza’s Peak: Watching the new Wicked movie with her boyfriend, reconnecting with the soundtrack, and crying at the emotional moments. Lighthearted dissection of musicals and Laura’s unashamed dislike for them.
    • "But this time, I mean, I cry justice." (03:01 – Nezza)
  • Nezza’s Pit: Her house is a chaotic mess, feeling like she “gave birth to five toddlers” due to a hectic schedule and being unable to keep up with cleaning.
    • "My house literally looks like…there’s just little children running around." (05:52 – Nezza)

2. Behind the Viral Dodgers Anthem Performance (08:55–18:13)

• The Build-Up: Nezza candidly lays out booking the Dodgers gig — how she never aimed to “expose” the Dodgers or make a statement; she simply wanted to sing for the community, unaware of the larger political backdrop.
• Decision to Sing in Spanish:
  • Nezza describes how, after asking if she could perform in both English and Spanish and being told "no," she realized nobody said she couldn't do it entirely in Spanish (11:46).
  • Found a historically significant Spanish translation commissioned by the U.S. government, ensuring its legitimacy (12:17–13:10).
• Conflict During Rehearsal:
  • Recounts the tense moment during the rehearsal when the organizers objected after hearing her perform in Spanish, leading her to break down in tears, consult her manager, and debate whether to leave.
    • "I go in the corner and just start bawling…I lock myself in a stall for 45 minutes crying, just trying to get the tears to stop." (14:00–14:57 – Nezza)
• The Performance:
  • Despite intense anxiety, she performed on autopilot, bracing for boos but instead met with support. The aftermath was swift: "She was like, what the fuck was that? Like, your clients are never welcome here ever again." (16:41)
  • Nezza never intended to post the viral video herself; friends convinced her to correct the false narrative online.
• Aftermath & Impact:
  • Social media (primarily Twitter/X) initially praised the Dodgers, not realizing the internal reprimand Nezza received. The exposure led to widespread debate and an outpouring of both support and hate.

Notable Quote

• "I just want people to take away that I’m just a normal girl…If you think 'I couldn't speak up, that's not me'—no, you do have it in you." (24:05–24:30 – Nezza)

3. Opportunities & Controversy in the Wake (20:49–24:30)

• Career Rocket: Within days of the video, Nezza was booked as the special musical guest on Jimmy Kimmel Live, pulling together the performance in 48 hours (20:57–21:25). She reflects on imposter syndrome and being thrust into the role of an “activist” when she’s always just been outspoken about her beliefs online.
  • "Does it ever feel real? … I just couldn't believe it…I would do it over and over again." (21:22–22:13 – Nezza)
• Backlash and Support:
  • She continues to receive “50 to 100 comments a day” evenly mixed between aggressive backlash ("Go back to Mexico," threats) and praise, highlighting the polarized reaction and ongoing cultural conversation (26:28–27:20).
  • Emphasizes you can be proud of America and still want better for it — "Two things can be right." (28:16 – Nezza).

4. Cultural Pride, Family, and Upbringing (24:47–25:54)

• Nezza describes her Colombian and Dominican heritage, Bay Area roots, and close family: "As a Bay kid…I’m so glad my parents chose to move to NorCal."
• Her siblings’ reactions to the anthem moment—equal parts shock and pride.

5. Nezza’s Path: Dance, Music, and Influencing (31:31–37:07, 40:19–42:39)

• Started as a dancer (from age 5), moved to LA after getting signed by Block Talent, danced for Selena Gomez and Lady Gaga (“We weren’t told it was for Gaga, but I figured it out from the call sheet,” 33:08–34:02).
• Entry into music via girl groups and a YouTube content house experiment for Univision, where she met collaborator Franny.
• Brief stint at PacSun ("I had worked at PacSun for six years!") before music and influencing became her full-time pursuits.
• Sold out her first tour; independent artist journey full of learning and wearing multiple hats ("I edit my music videos. I make the graphics…I've done everything up until this point." 41:07).

6. Toughest Parts of Independence & Toxic Traits (41:00–54:10)

• Nezza describes the struggles of being a perfectionist and difficulty delegating with other creatives.
• Admits her “toxic trait” is hating to be doubted or misunderstood — stemming from issues with not being believed by her strict immigrant parents.
  • "My toxic trait is I can't stand when people don't believe me…I have to get over that, because it’s a waste of your time." (53:10–54:09)

7. Fun and Juicy Quick Bits

Weird Foods, Little-Known Facts, and icks (43:27–58:24)

• Nezza is extremely adventurous with food (Cambodian at age 5, loves oysters, wants to try frog legs).
• Surprised fans may not know she’s only 5'3": “When I meet people they’re like, whoa, you’re little! I thought at least 5'7” (43:25).
• Discusses influencer “icks”: over-the-top cringe content, and especially influencers preaching about being “the most honest,” putting themselves above others (57:01–58:01).
  • "You have to say you’re the most honest? You’re a liar." (57:55–57:58 – Laura)

8. Books, Secret Passions, and Aspirations (58:45–63:01)

• Nezza is a voracious reader (aiming for 1–2 books a week) and dreams of adapting books to film.
• Recommends Brain on Fire and The Vanishing Half (for its narrative on family, colorism, and identity).
• "I would do anything to erase [the ACOTAR series] from my mind and reread it." (59:15–59:20 – Nezza)

9. Future Plans & Dream Collaborations (63:05–64:24)

• Dream musical collaborations: Bruno Mars, Doja Cat, Carol G, J Balvin, Bad Bunny, Young Miko.
  • "Bruno Mars…that Bruno. He can do anything!" (63:43–63:56 – Nezza)
• Upcoming big announcements (to go public on Dec 15), and a new album in 2026: "I’m going to disappear for two months and just go in the studio."

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On nerves before the anthem:
  • "I blacked out when I did it for sure…when I took [my ear monitors] out because I thought I was like, people might boo. But no one booed." (16:01–16:41 – Nezza)
• On her imposter syndrome:
  • "I'm not really necessarily an activist, but everyone was, like, looking to me to be this beacon of hope. And I was like, 'What is happening?'" (22:28–23:04 – Nezza)
• On nuanced patriotism:
  • "You can be a proud American but also want better for your country…Two things can be right." (28:16–28:58 – Nezza)
• On making bold choices:
  • "Sometimes it’s the normal, chill girls who do something powerful." (24:30–24:47 – Laura)
• On the universal power of support:
  • "All my dreams came true here…It was just really, it's just been such…It was, yeah. I mean, that week specifically was just like a disheartening time because I was like, this is the city I moved to." (29:02–29:15 – Nezza)
• On music she wishes got more attention:
  • "Corazon Frio…I just know if that song had been given to, like, Carol G…that song would be a number one." (51:55–52:32 – Nezza)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [08:55] – Nezza begins play-by-play of Dodgers anthem performance
• [13:46] – Shock during Spanish-language rehearsal, emotional fallout
• [16:01] – Internal debate before performing, aftermath with Dodgers
• [20:57] – How Kimmel reached out after the viral moment
• [24:05] – Nezza's message on taking a stand as a "normal" person
• [26:28] – Online backlash, daily mixed responses, "Go back to Mexico" hate
• [31:31] – On choosing music, career path from dance to girl group to solo
• [41:07] – Struggles with delegation as an independent artist
• [53:14] – Admits her "toxic trait": hating not being believed
• [57:01] – Group discusses influencer 'icks' and inauthenticity
• [59:05] – Bookworm passions and adaptation dreams
• [63:43] – Dream musical collabs: Bruno Mars, Doja Cat, and more
• [64:50] – Sneak peek: Major announcements and new album coming 2026

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Tone & Style

Light-hearted, quick-witted, and candid, with plenty of supportive energy between best friends. The episode is a blend of laughter, unfiltered storytelling, and deeper, emotional discussions about identity, representation, and finding courage under the spotlight. The conversational dynamic ensures listeners feel included — like they’re hanging out with friends, getting the inside scoop.

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For Listeners: Why You Should Tune In

You’ll come away inspired by Nezza’s resilience and authenticity, understand the full story behind her viral Dodger Stadium moment, and get plenty of fun, backstage banter about influencer life, music, food, and friendship. Whether you’re a longtime fan or a first-timer, this episode’s blend of hot topics, heart, and humor encapsulates the unique Fool Coverage experience.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

When the little boy in the greatest chairman got slapped and he started singing.

[C]

Off, that's when she clicked.

[B]

Done. I didn't grow up with that kind of money anyways. Honey, we had no wall back then.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.

[C]

Hey, guys. Welcome back to full coverage. Your favorite podcast with your hosts, Mandy.

[B]

Mua and Mara Lee. And we have a very special guest today, you gu.

[C]

The amazing, the incomparable Ms. Neza. You guys does everything. She sings, influencing creator.

[B]

I've seen her dance. Maybe I've seen her make me laugh. No, she gets. She makes content, but most importantly, she makes music.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And she's really good at it.

[D]

Thank you, guys. Whoa. Hype me up, girl.

[C]

No, we're like, we live.

[D]

Oh, I love you guys. I don't even know where we met.

[C]

It has to be a David video.

[B]

It was a David video.

[C]

It has to be a David video.

[D]

Alvarezi it was the like, agree to disagree and you had to like, wow. It was weird. That was a weird. I don't even know what it's titled.

[C]

I don't either. It was like probably like best friends agree or disagree or something along those lines.

[D]

There's one thing about David that you can go. You can go film a video and it's all fun. But I'm always scared of what he titles them because you don't know until way later. And it could fully change the whole video.

[C]

Yes. No, I'm scared to always re watch it because I'm like, what? I do.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I think whenever I'm filming them, I'm like, I just block.

[B]

What's the edit?

[C]

I don't know what's going to happen. I just love him so much. I love David. He's like, literally the best.

[D]

Shout out, David.

[C]

Shout out to David. We are literally obsessed with you. We like to start the podcast every week with a peeking pit. So we asked you to prepare a peek and pit for us.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Tell us what you're thinking.

[D]

I think my peak would be watching Wicked.

[C]

Oh, my God. The second one, the newest one.

[D]

Yeah. You haven't seen it?

[C]

I have.

[D]

Oh. I was about to say, I mean, your Halloween costume.

[C]

I'm a fake.

[D]

I'm a fake.

[B]

I'm a fake. I'm a phony. I love the first one, though.

[D]

Yeah. The first one was unbelievable.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But this time, I mean, I cry justice.

[C]

Did you? I was curious. Like, I always, like, love people's, like, takes on Wicked too, because I like the first one more, but I felt like the second one felt like longer in a weird way to me.

[B]

I.

[D]

Feel like the first one was just like. I think there was so much. I mean, yes, there was like, magical.

[C]

In a weird way.

[D]

So magical. And there was so much anticipation for the second one. But I feel like there was crazy anticipation for the first one.

[C]

Insane that it would.

[D]

There was just all you already so overwhelmed walking into the theater. But no, I thought it was just good. I've been sing all the songs every day. It's been a Wicked soundtrack in our house.

[C]

Maybe it's been wicked since the first one, I'm sure.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. It's been.

[C]

It's on the Spotify. Rad.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, I, I fully cried. It was great. And it was also cool watching it. Like, I took my boyfriend and he was like, he. It was just cool to see his reaction to like, all the, like, wait, that person's that person.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[D]

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Where it starts to, like, gag you a little bit.

[D]

Yeah. So that was fun. Yeah.

[C]

Because there's a lot of Easter eggs in so many. Oh, is there like that tie into, like, the wizard of Oz?

[D]

That is tie into the original wizard of Oz.

[C]

So that's why people are always like.

[B]

Well, I hate musicals. Manny knows this. But I. So I put off Wicked beverage.

[D]

Like.

[B]

You guys see it? Yeah. See, it's got to see. And I watched. I thought it was fantastic.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not that musically there's a lot of stories. You know what I mean? They are not singing the entire movie like that. And what I compared to is Maleficent. I felt like it kind of had that essence. And Maleficent is one of my favorites. So wicked. Fantastic. Like, I recommend people see it even if you don't like musicals. But the second one, I've heard so many mixed reviews, so I'm just gonna wait for it to come out. You're like. You're like.

[C]

Let me tell you something. She started. She started. Greatest Showman.

[D]

I said what?

[C]

She said, what the. I swear I was on the plane with her.

[D]

You know what, though? You know what, though?

[C]

So funny.

[D]

You know what, though? My boyfriend Keen's the same. The same way. What movie did we just watch that? We went into it not. Not knowing if it was a musical or not.

[C]

Was it, like, Joker too?

[D]

I don't remember. I don't remember. But I remember him, like, just, like, having this sigh of relief when we realized it wasn't a musical. But he's the same way. So you have someone in your.

[C]

I'm not obsessed, but I definitely, like, will enjoy them when they.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Depending on how it is. She was like, start singing.

[B]

When the little boy in the Greatest Chairman got slapped and he starts singing.

[C]

Off, that's when she clicks.

[B]

I'm done.

[C]

She clicked right off.

[D]

Yeah. You know? Yeah. It's intense.

[C]

Yeah, he gets that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I was like.

[C]

It's like, okay, you're pissing me off.

[B]

I'm out of the fantasy. Slap him again. Just kidding. No, too far.

[C]

Too far. You liked it?

[D]

Yeah, I loved it.

[C]

Good, good, good. What about the.

[D]

Oh, my pet. Honestly, my house is in shambles. It looks like I gave birth to five toddlers. I have not had a second, and it's so unlike me. My closet's always kind of a mess, to be honest.

[B]

Relatable.

[D]

But my house literally looks like there's been. Yeah. Just little children running around. So that's been my. Like. Oh. I just. I've been wanting to get to it every day, and I woke up this morning, and I was like, there's no time. There's no time.

[B]

Too busy, too busy.

[D]

But I'll get. I'll get to it this weekend.

[B]

I feel like things slow down after Christmas. Like, you know, that weird time between Christmas and that's when I plan on doing everything. Like, I have put everything in my personal life off until that little window.

[D]

You know what my top life goal is?

[B]

Tell me.

[D]

To have that freaking vacuum that you.

[B]

Have that you need it.

[D]

The amount of time. Every time that video comes up, I'm like, this is what I want. And if you guys know what I'm talking. You know what I'm talking about. Like, did that come. I have to ask. Did that come with the house?

[B]

Okay, so it. It did, but the previous owner had it installed because she said she had it in a previous home and that she couldn't give it up. So whenever she moved into the home that I live in now, she only lived there for like a year and a half. She had the damn thing installed. Never seen one in my life.

[C]

Never seen anything like it.

[B]

And before your videos ever, never seen where they existed. I didn't grow up with that money. Anyways, honey, we have no wall back. No, no, no. So whenever she shared it to me, I was like, we'll take the house.

[D]

Yeah, we'll take the house. So how far does it stretch?

[B]

Although there's two. There's one upstairs, one downstairs. Fantastic. They all lead to the same bucket in the garage. You just click, click, click. Plastic bin dump in the trash can. Done. And that goes for upstairs and downstairs. And they can reach for every corner of my house. Basically. The hose is really long, so it's.

[C]

Like 20, like, like 30ft.

[B]

Yeah. And there's also a extension, so if you want to do the floors with it. But I'm just such a Dyson girly for my floors, you know, I'm just, like, dicing my floors. But that wall vacuum, I'm telling you, I vacuum my stove top. I vacuum out my refrigerator.

[D]

Like.

[C]

Like the clutch things fill.

[B]

Or like, you can't get a vacuum cleaner in my cabinets, my drawers. That thing is like, oh, I have cats. So, like, cat litter.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[B]

It's like a miracle. Yeah, the best.

[C]

I love the little vacuum with just, like, the hole that you can just.

[D]

Like, do the stupidest shit.

[C]

When I was little, I dipped my dick in one when I was little.

[B]

I know. That's why you don't have one in your home. He'll suck his dick up in it.

[C]

I can't do the wall vacuum, guys.

[D]

I'll fuck up. I won't.

[C]

No, I won't. But when I was, like, literally seven years old, I was like, no, I swear. I swear.

[B]

This is why it's important not to take validation from a man. Cause they'll fuck a vacuum cleaner.

[C]

Yeah. Like, they'll fuck a vacuum cleaner. I mean, I was a literal infant. I didn't know. But, you know, it was something. I mean, I Think grown men are sick for sure. So you just. That's just the point, guys. We have so many things we really want to talk about, but we want to really. I want to deep dive Tyler.

[D]

What the you fucking about You.

[C]

I'm like, okay, that was one time. So there was a situation that happened back in June, and it was the situation that happened with you singing the national anthem in Spanish. Yeah. At the Dodgers.

[D]

Yep.

[C]

Please give us a play by play of this. Because it was literally like, first I was everywhere for me, and I was over here like this, like, because obviously I've known you for so long.

[D]

Yeah, no, I know, I know.

[C]

So to me, I'm like, girl, yes. Period like that. She's that girl. But it's so cool to see other people recognize you for something so sickening. So please give us a play with. Yeah.

[D]

Tell us about what happened. Oh, my gosh. I mean, I was. I was hired. Well, first of all, let me preface.

[C]

Give them the preface.

[D]

I haven't said this on any. On anything, but, like, I think people, like. Because people, like, comment like Dodgers colors in my stuff all the time, as if I'm against the Dodgers. I'm not. And I never went into it to, like, expose them. I would have sang that anthem at any baseball team's game.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

I just happened to be booked at the Dodgers at the time. And also I. Something about. I had no idea about stance them. Not like I went into it solely just me wanting to do something for the community. So, like, I think the reason also why it took off because, like, I didn't know they were at the White House the week before. Yeah, I knew nothing. Yeah, I knew nothing. And so I was like, oh, that explains why it obviously grew to the scale that it did. But no, I mean, I. I booked it like a month before.

[B]

Was this your first time singing national anthem at a stadium?

[D]

No, I did the A's game.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Back home in the bay. And also I sang the anthem in high school.

[B]

So you've done it?

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I've done it. So, yeah, I've done it so many times. But that when I got booked, it was like before everything happened. Like before the raid started. Oh, yeah, yeah. LA was still like, yeah, it was fine. Business as usual. And I was like, yeah, of course. I was like, let's. And I chose Saturday. And mind you, we chose that before. No, King's Day also became a thing. So I chose Saturday because I was like, oh, Saturday, they'll be the most people.

[B]

Totally.

[D]

But I want to have, like, you know, I want to experience, like, a real Dodgers game. And so we chose the 14th. And then as we got closer to the day, you know, the raids started happening. And I was like, okay, ooh, I don't think I could go out there and do it. I was like, can we ask them if I can do it in, like, Spanglish, maybe? As we sent an email and we asked if I could do both, they were like, can Neza do the regular anthem and then go into a Spanish one just back to back? Because sometimes they do it when, like, the. You know, the away teams come from other countries. They'll do, like, their anthem. And they were like, unfortunately, she can't do two songs. She only has 90 seconds. No one said I couldn't do spin.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No one directly was.

[D]

No.

[B]

They were just like, you can't do both. No.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Which it could have been. It could have been nipped right there in that email thread. They could have been like, we prefer her to do it in English. And then I would have been like, oh, then I'm so sorry. You're gonna have to find someone else for Saturday, because I won't be there.

[C]

Yeah, but that's not what.

[D]

That's not what was said. And so they're like, she only has 90 seconds. And I was like, okay. I was like, I'll practice it to make sure that it's in 90 seconds. I'll throw in a little Spanish, a little English. But I didn't want to make it up, because I was like, are people gonna be mad that I translated it myself?

[B]

Okay.

[D]

And so I Googled, I don't even know. I think I youtubed Spanish national anthem to see if there was a version that someone had performed at a game anywhere. Yeah, there was nothing. And then I kept scrolling, and I found this, like, historical video that it was like, El pendonestreado. And I was like, what is this? And I clicked on it and had all the history of, like, El Pendon was commissioned in 1945 by the Roosevelt administration by Clotida, this, like, Peruvian composer. And it was, like, the official. Commissioned by the government. So I was like, I can't get in trouble.

[B]

Then it's.

[D]

It's officially official.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And it's the same lyrics. Like, the story is exactly the same. So I was like, perfect, I'll learn this. And it was actually Franny, because I was gonna do it in Spanglish, Our girlfriend. It was. It was Franny.

[B]

Sister Franny.

[D]

Sister. Sister Franny. So Franny And I stream Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays. We're doing every day this week because we're crazy.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

But we do Monday, Wednesdays, and Fridays. And it was on a Wednesday. And I was at her house and we were getting ready to stream, and she was like, nessa. I was like, what? And she was like, did you realize that it's no King's Day on Saturday? And I said, oh, no. And she was like, what are you going to do? And I was like, I don't know, actually, now that you mention it. And then I was like, I'll just do it fully in Spanish. And so I walked into that stadium thinking that I was welcome to. Because no one told me.

[C]

I said, you couldn't. Right.

[B]

No one already mentioned.

[D]

Also, I wasn't trying to hide anything. I sang it in Spanish in front of the whole Dodgers team during rehearsal.

[C]

Oh, no.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

So the rehearsal was in Spanish.

[D]

I did the rehearsal in Spanish, you guys.

[B]

Oh, my.

[D]

So I wasn't trying to hide anything. That's why I was like, I don't. I was like, people need to understand. Like, I didn't go in there with this, like, math plan. No. Like, I went in there fully with this, like, just so happy. I was so happy. I was so excited. I was getting escorted around, you know, all the back end stuff. And like, went into my. My rehearsal with the organ player, and I did it in Spanish in front of the woman that booked me, in front of everyone. And you can see in the video, like, I walk away and I'm like, yeah, like, great. Loved it. And he's like, yeah, sounds great. And then she goes. And she was like, actually. And it was that moment. And I mean, obviously everyone's seen it by now, but, like, I. I just. You know when you're a little kid and you get in trouble and you. You don't want to say words because you know you'll ball. That's why I'm just staring at her. I had to call over my manager to speak to her because I knew if I had said anything to her, I would have started crying, which I did. The video is like. That video is like a snippet of like a five minute video. Like, after she walks away and gives us a moment, like, I go in the corner and just start bawling. And I'm like, trying to figure out what I'm gonna do. And my manager's like, I'm down to do whatever you want to do if you want to do here. I'm with you if you want to do it. I'm with you. He's like, if you want to walk out of here, I'm with you. And so, okay, let me figure this out. I go to the bathroom, I lock myself in a stall for 45 minutes crying, just trying to get the tears to stop. Because I'm like, I can't go out there crying. It's also because, like, I don't want them to. If I am going to do it, I don't want them to know that I'm going to do it. And, yeah, and I went down. I went down on the. On the field mute because I knew if anyone spoke to me, I would cry.

[B]

You were gonna lose it.

[D]

I was gonna lose it. And, yeah, and then I. I went out there and it. I'm not kidding. It wasn't until I heard the music in my ears that I was like, just do it.

[B]

Just do it.

[D]

Just do it. There was, like, a moment before that I was like, no, don't do it. Don't do it. Yeah, I was.

[C]

It was. You're, like, battling.

[D]

Oh, because I'm such a goody goody. Like, I don't. Like, I was shaking. I' it was the first time that my body's reacted that way because I've never put myself in a position to be in trouble.

[C]

Right, right. Or, like, be defiant.

[D]

No, nothing. Like, nothing. Like, I was president in high school. Like, I. Like, I've just. Like, that's always been me, like, such a rule follower. But, yeah, I mean, I blacked out when I did it for sure. And then it wasn't until. I mean, I've said this before, but it wasn't until, like. Because I had my. My personal. In years in. So, like, I couldn't hear anything other than the organ player. And so when I took it out because I thought I was like, people might boo.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But no one booed. And then I. And then I got my ass out of there because they. They called like, five minutes later, and she was like, what the was that? Like, your clients are never welcome here ever again. And just, like, hung up. And I was like, let's go. Let's get out of here. And I also. I never intended to post that video.

[C]

Right.

[D]

It was my friends that were like, are you seeing Twitter? And I'm like, no, I don't have.

[B]

Or where did it blow up socially? First Twitter. Yes.

[D]

X was like, oh, my God. Good on the Dodgers. Like, thank you, Dodgers.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So they were, like, praising them.

[D]

Praising them. And I was. I literally was not gonna post Anything. And my friends were like, you can't let them get away with that. Like, no. Like, people need to know where they stand. Like actually being like, no doubt their fans are Latino. Like, you can't have they literally.

[B]

Babe.

[D]

World.

[B]

Correct.

[D]

No.

[C]

Hello.

[D]

No, I know. So they were like, you can't let their like loyal fans that are Latino that are like thinking that, you know, they're spending all this money for on the Dodgers and like you need to let them know what is actually going on. And I was like, okay. So I made it really quick and I posted it and never. I mean, we've been doing this so long. You can work so hard on a video or you can like, you can intend for something to like reach and it's like two views.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[D]

So like I never, never intended it to escalate the way that it did. But obviously so proud that I did it because I've never done anything like that in my life and I would do it over and over again.

[B]

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[D]

Yeah.

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[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So insane. So then. Wait, so then with the opportunities that you got from that, like what were they looking like? Cuz afterwards I feel like it was like a whirlwind.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, within. I think it was. I think we put together our Kimmel performance in two days, which is crazy. I mean, when I. When I. When I. When I got that, I mean, I still don't believe it's me. Like, I watch. I've been. I watch everything and I still don't believe. And I would love to talk to someone that like maybe has had some sort of similar situation. Like, does it ever feel real?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Does it ever feel like it's happening to you?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Because I just couldn't believe it. I mean, when we got the Kimmel call, they were like, you're gonna be the special guest on Kimmel on Monday. And I was like, what? And they're like, yes, we have to put this together in two days. And I was like, okay. And I learned so much about like TV stuff through that, which was cool. But full circle moment. The last time I was in that building, I was a dancer.

[B]

Oh my.

[D]

I danced for black on Kimmel.

[C]

Really?

[B]

And now you're the musical guest.

[D]

And then I came back, actual artist.

[B]

Oh my God.

[D]

Musical artist, which was crazy. And just like, I mean I've. I've built this like amazing community in the. In the Latin space out here, which has been. They've like brought me in with like, like, you know, they've become family and just so many things. It's just been so. It's so crazy and things are still happening behind the scenes that I just obviously can't wait to share at some point. But. Yeah, I just don't know if it'll ever really feel like it's happening to me.

[B]

Yeah, it's like, probably such an outer body experience.

[D]

I also had crazy imposter syndrome.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Because, like, I. Yes. Like, I. I've always, like, online. I've always been very open about where I stand, if you follow me. It's very clear, totally where I stand politically and. And such. But I'm. I wouldn't really necessarily have ever called myself, like, a. An activist. And so everyone was, like, looking to me to be like this, like, beacon of hope. And I was like, what is happening? Yeah, I struggled with it for, like, a while and I was like, no, God put you there to do that. And he wouldn't have put you there if he didn't think you were strong enough to handle it.

[B]

That's right.

[D]

So.

[B]

That's right. That's absolutely right. Wow. Incredible. What an incredible story. I had met you so many times, hung out with you, my jaw was on, dude. I was fucking walking for floor.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Cuz, like, oh, Nessa. Like, cute little, you know, sweet.

[B]

I mean, there's a lot of influencers or like, musical artists and people I've met. I'd been like, no, doubt you. I was like, well, yeah.

[C]

No, seriously, like, I was just, like, so proud and so happy.

[B]

So happy.

[C]

You're so chill and sweet. Like, I'm like, you just couldn't have gone to someone better?

[B]

Just shows who you are. Like, whenever you are in that bathroom crying and push to push. Do you stand for your people? Like, are you gonna make the biggest and bold move, imposter syndrome or not? Yes.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes, you would. Yes. You are that powerful. Yes, you are that person.

[D]

Yeah. I think I want most. Yes. I. I just want people to, like, from what happened, take away that. Like, I'm just like a normal girl.

[B]

You are.

[D]

And you are. You know, sometimes you watch these. These videos of people, like, and you're like, God, I couldn't. Like, I couldn't. I don't have that in me. Like, I. And I want people to understand. Like, no, you do have it in you. It just took like a mama bear moment for it to come out. But, like, for everyone's that. That's like, scared to, like, no, I can't speak up. Like, that's not me. Like, no, you have it in you. And, yeah, I just want people to, like, take away that, like, I'm just, like, super normal children.

[B]

Sometimes those normal chill girls are the ones, though. It's the normal chill girls. You don't have to be this crazy, outspoken troublemaker to do something powerful. Sometimes it's the normal chill girl that does it. And that's you. And that's amazing.

[C]

Literally. Are you. So where are you, like, where are you from? Like, actually, like. And what is your background?

[D]

I'm from the Bay Area, which is so funny. I get so many comments like, you're from the Bay Area. I feel like, as a Btrian, like, I feel like. I feel like we preach any second we can that we're from the Bay. So if I'm. I'm always shocked when people, like, still don't know because I mention it any second that I possibly can. But, no, I loved growing up a Bay kid. I don't think I would ever move back, but I've always, like, oh, I would love my kids to, like, grow.

[B]

Up as Bay kids.

[D]

Like, no, I loved it. I. It was great. I. I'm so glad my parents chose to, like, move to NorCal. Mom's Dominican. Dad's Colombian.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

So they've always. They. They came over to California and they've been, like, all over. My mom, like, lived in, I think, Modesto first. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or Fresno. No, Modesto.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

But no, I loved it, man.

[C]

I'm obsessed with that. You're close with your family and you have siblings.

[D]

I have one younger sister.

[B]

And what does she think of her older sister?

[C]

I know she's screaming.

[D]

Oh, she.

[C]

I know. She's literally.

[D]

Oh, my God. She texted me, and she was like, I see sasses. She was like, that's like. That's how. Like, that's what you do. Like, like, hell yeah. Like, good on you. But she was also shocked.

[B]

She was like, she.

[D]

And she still calls me Vanessa. And she was like, vanessa, what?

[B]

So whenever you did it, was everybody just like, like, yeah. And then whenever you put out your video, what. What was it like?

[C]

What was the response?

[B]

Was it positive or negative or both? A little both, right?

[D]

Both, but equally.

[C]

Really? Oh, yeah.

[D]

Oh, no. Really, guys, It's. When. How many months has it been?

[C]

June.

[D]

It's like, like, almost six months.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I get maybe still, like, 50 to 100 comments a day on the original video. Maga and non maga.

[B]

Are you.

[D]

Every day.

[B]

So serious.

[C]

They're still going Still?

[D]

Because people.

[B]

I have to.

[D]

I have to remember that, like, it didn't go global. It went. I mean, kind of. It went viral, but, like, there's still millions of people that don't know about it, and they're now finding the video. So for them, it's fresh.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So they see the video, and they think it happened yesterday. And so they're like. And I'm like, you idiots.

[C]

It's like, as the date posted.

[B]

They hit their algorithm. Okay.

[D]

They don't know better. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I'm like. But sometimes I think about that, and I'm gonna relay, like, the date is there. The date's right.

[B]

The day is there.

[D]

No, it got crazy. I mean, the worst was, like, getting the. Like, the death threats and, like, all that stuff. I know where you live. I'm like, you do not. I promise you.

[B]

You don't know where I live. Show up, show up. Show the up.

[D]

Yeah, so. But, I mean. But the low.

[C]

Like, what would they even say? Like, how dare you? Is it like.

[D]

Yeah, they said. They said it was disrespectful to the anthem. And I was like, how? I'm still saying.

[B]

I'm still saying certain words and awesome words. I know they don't know you, but I'm so. So. I know you, and I know you grew up in America. I know you have so much love. There was not one fucking second in my mind, not one second. My mind. I thought of that as a disrespectful thing. I thought that was such an honorable.

[C]

Empowering.

[B]

Empowering.

[D]

And also just like, comments that are like, go back to Mexico. Look. I'm like, are you ignorant? They're like, deport. Oh, the amount of times that Ice has been tagged in that video. Like, deport her. I'm like, I was born. I was born here. Jokes on you. I was born here. And I'm a proud American. Like, yeah, I think. I think two things can be the same or the truth. You can be a proud American, but also want better for your country.

[C]

Girls can be the same. You know, they can coincide.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I can be very happy to live here and feel very privileged, but still want better for it. Yeah, that's just like. That's what life is.

[B]

I'll go to. We'll travel. We've been privileged to travel a lot, and I've gone to countries that are third world countries, and I go, well, I am just kissing the ground that I'm walking on in America. Like, I am so grateful for everything.

[D]

We have, as I'm sure the same. Like. Like, for example, like having immigrant Hispanic parents, they. They drill that into your brain.

[B]

Yeah, like, totally.

[D]

They make sure that, you know, you are so privileged and that you here.

[C]

We could be right now.

[B]

We can all still want better.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. And still love this country. Yeah, we can. Two things can be right.

[D]

I mean, all my dreams came true here also. All my dreams came true in this city.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Like so far. So like. Yeah, I love la. So like, it was just really. It's just been such. It was. Yeah. I mean, that week specifically was just like a disheartening time because I was like, this is the city I moved.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. You know, totally. It just. It is weird. I. I don't think a lot of people in our country, like, they don't leave room for nuance for anything. And it's very divisive and they don't really understand that like two things can be true at the same time. And you can want more but still be happy. It's like. Yeah, that's just. But like, the thing is, what makes America great is that people want more. I think that's the whole point. So like, I think that like, why do we have all these amazing movements that have happened and change has happened from these movements is because we can appreciate something but want more for it. And that's how it's gone.

[B]

So that's why America. Yeah. America is great.

[C]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[B]

That is because the people have pushed for more. We've done so much with members and people like you that take stands like that make this country wonderful.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So I couldn't agree more. That's literally what I think.

[B]

So part of the. We think you're amazing.

[D]

Thanks. Viva la. It's funny, I feel like the Mexican community has like taken me in as like.

[B]

I don't tell them either. That's like a Mexican too.

[C]

They do. They do think Laura. Latina.

[D]

I really thought you were too.

[B]

Everyone does. Everyone. And I would. I'm not a culture vulture, but I would love to claim it because I love my brother.

[C]

I am a culture vulture for her.

[D]

I mean, you clean like a Latina, baby.

[C]

Like that is real.

[B]

Cuz the floors are clean. Listen.

[D]

1,000.

[B]

Very, very clean.

[C]

The Zote.

[B]

Yeah, she's in there.

[C]

The brushes.

[D]

I have that because of you.

[C]

So do I. I got it.

[D]

I swear by it. It's the only. It's the only thing I wash my makeup brushes with. Thank you.

[C]

It's so good.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

I got it cuz of her too.

[D]

It's the best. Highly recommend.

[B]

Yeah, I'm so.

[C]

I'm always like, as a Mexican, I'm.

[B]

Like, I feel very, very strongly about my Hispanic. Latin.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Friends.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

In the culture.

[C]

You're like a.

[B]

Like, very strongly about it.

[C]

What's it called? Like, I want to say, like, but like a fruit fly for the Mexicans too.

[B]

Oh, you said.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

You're like that. I mean, you are that too. I am dead ass. But like, of that. Of the Latinos too.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You love your Latinos Latinas.

[B]

Yes, strongly, very strong.

[C]

Which I'm like, yes, absolutely embracing, honey. Okay.

[B]

Fun. But I did want to hear about that.

[C]

Yeah, I did too.

[B]

It was really incredible.

[D]

Thanks, guys.

[B]

I can't bypass that.

[C]

It's too fierce.

[B]

What made you want to get into music? You're like, because I can sing.

[C]

That's why.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

But when did it start? Like, when did you, like, start, like, singing? Was singing something that, like, you always done or something that you like kind of of acquired later on.

[D]

I don't know if you guys know, but I started off as a dancer.

[C]

I didn't know that.

[D]

Okay, so I'll be like, I didn't know that. So, yeah, I got thrown into dance at five. Became my life. It was supposed to be like a summer hobby. My parents were like, please quit. But I was like, no, it's gonna be my life. And so I moved out here, I got signed as a dancer, so that's what moved me to la.

[C]

Got it.

[D]

Yeah. I auditioned for Block Talent, Shout out Block talent, and then got signed and so just moved here, like, rapidly. Like, I. I had accepted my admission at SF State and then dropped out. Yeah, dropped out to make this move.

[B]

Because they were like, I'm sorry, you have imposter syndrome. But half the people would never take a chance like that or that goal. You kind of seem like a badass babe.

[D]

Dance was my. It was my. I mean, it still is my everything, but it was my one true love and music, like, coincided.

[C]

Yeah, totally.

[D]

But, yeah, so I moved out here and did that and was really blessed and thankful and danced for a lot of my dream artists.

[B]

And then what are some artists you've danced for?

[D]

I danced for Selena Gomez.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

I danced for Lady Gaga.

[C]

No. I'm a Gaga fucking fanatic. How dare you not even start with that?

[D]

She is. Well, what's funny about that job is we weren't told that we were dancing for Gaga when we booked it. It was a very top secret music video for some reason.

[B]

I don't know why. So trippy that they do something, but.

[D]

Because I'm a huge gag Gaga fan, the first song I ever sang on a stage in front of anyone and the first time my parents ever heard me sing was Poker Face. Like Lady Gaga. Yes. But stripped on a piano, of course.

[C]

Yeah. Not the like.

[D]

Imagine 16 year old me. She's so beautiful. No, that was great. But because I'm. Maybe it's the Capricorn too.

[C]

Baby is that girl.

[D]

Maybe it's.

[C]

Yes, they are the girlies that will get the business.

[D]

You need them information.

[C]

My manager's a Capricorn.

[B]

Oh, really?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I looked at the call sheet and it didn't have her name on it, but it had her manager on it. And I looked up the manager's name and it was Lady Gaga's manager. And I was like, holy crap, we're dancing for Gaga tomorrow. Yeah.

[C]

That's insane.

[D]

Yeah, but no. Yeah. Did a lot of cool things through that. And then in 2018, I mean, I always sang as a kid, but like in the shower.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And then I would post like YouTube covers here and there. But I didn't know anything about the space. Like.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, I knew about the dance world, but I didn't know about the singing world and got thrown into a lot of girl groups through the dance world. So I was in a girl group for like two years in 2012 under Interscope.

[C]

She's lived so many lives.

[B]

I know.

[D]

Oh, no, she had little print is actually on.

[B]

It's.

[D]

I've. Yeah, I feel like I've lived like 20 lives. But yeah, I was in that girl group. That didn't work out. We broke up as all girl groups do. But I learned a lot of the me about the music industry through that. And then in 2018 is when I met Franny because we got thrown into a content house together.

[C]

Oh.

[D]

So Univision was trying to recreate Team 10.

[C]

You're kidding.

[D]

Yes. They wanted to do a Latin team.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Universe is like basically like one of like.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

The biggest channel.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Mexico tv.

[D]

TV channel. It's like Telemundo.

[B]

They were trying to create. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Because I mean, that was the blueprint. Right. This is 20s, end of 2017. And so they were like, yeah, we want to put you in this house. It was supposed to be like six artists. They're like, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a music based house. So obviously that's what gravitated me towards it. But you'll start a YouTube channel. We'll help you with your socials. It ended up just being Franny and.

[C]

I of the whole. Of the whole house, which is.

[D]

You do. So it was. There was a. There was a third girl, but then she ended up leaving, so. But she was only in the house for like, I think a couple weeks. And then she.

[B]

Music did not know.

[C]

Pull it up.

[D]

Spotify. She has music out.

[C]

Oh, no.

[D]

Franny can no friend. There's music videos.

[C]

I had no idea.

[B]

Does everybody have so much talent?

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

Like Laura. I'm like, what the.

[B]

A crumb.

[C]

I can't even. I'm not musically inclined.

[B]

I know nothing.

[C]

Can't dance. Can't hold the note. Can't say it. Nothing.

[B]

Nothing.

[D]

No, we. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was a music based house. So we. We dropped. It was like we would distribute the music through Univision. So we put out like three songs. I started my YouTube channel. And yeah, everything just.

[B]

Is that how you got into influencing those years?

[D]

Yep. I quit my job at Paxon. I remember when I got the call that they're like, they chose you for the house. I said, pacsun. I gotta go.

[C]

You would be a pack.

[D]

I had worked for Paxton for six years.

[B]

Oh, that's a long bitch, honey. That's a career.

[C]

Oh, no.

[D]

Maybe next step. If I hadn't started my YouTube channel, I'd be working at PACS on corporate.

[B]

Literally.

[D]

No doubt in my mind. Yeah, no doubt in my mind. And I still love all the peeps over there. Shout out pacsun.

[B]

I know the girls whose father created pacsun. Melissa, Heather Hopkins.

[D]

Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. How funny. That's so crazy. I know it's crazy, but no, I quit and then went into that house and that's how I started YouTube and learned the ropes.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And then solo music career started from there. So when we moved out, I just kept going.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And just kept putting out music and.

[B]

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[D]

Sold out my first tour, which was crazy.

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[D]

Crazy.

[B]

How is. I mean, the thing is, you've been a dancer, so you know how to perform and then it's like that takes all the air and scariness out of it. Cuz you've been on stage your whole life. How is performing for you?

[D]

It's. It's my one true love. I tell everyone, like, if I could be like a touring artist for the rest of my life, like I'd be set. Like, I don't even have to make money. Like, just put me on a stage, feed me.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And just let me perform. Like I'll be good.

[B]

Yeah. What's something someone that people don't know or wouldn't know about? Being an independent artist, like, what is something about that that you would want to share?

[D]

Oh God. The issue with me is I'm a Capricorn and an independent artist. So I. It's not that I. I'm exposing myself. It's not that I struggle with control. I just like quality.

[C]

I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I like Capricorn.

[D]

I like quality things.

[C]

Things.

[D]

So I struggle with having other people. Like, I edit my music videos. Like I. All the graphics you've seen, I make the graphics. Like I've done everything up until this point and I just struggle because I'm like, I know how I want it. That's such a bad word.

[B]

You don't delegate out your work.

[D]

I know how I want it, so why not just do it? So that's been like the biggest thing is just like overdoing it. Like I truly, I overdo it sometimes I wear too many hats. Hats. I've gotten better at it. I've gotten better. I've like brought in a choreo. Like one of my best friends is like choreographing my stuff now. So like I'm not also choreographing my shows or videos. Like I've, I've. I've handed off that hat. My, My boyfriend also likes to create stuff on the side. So he's been directing all my stuff with me. He actually creative directed my Kimmel performance. So like all those boxes, like the whole severance thing, like that was like kind of like his, his idea. So. Yeah. I'm getting better.

[B]

Well, it's.

[C]

It's a journey.

[D]

I'm getting better.

[C]

Hard.

[B]

Okay, what's something your fans would be surprised to know about you that they.

[D]

Don'T know about you? God, that's so hard. Because being a YouTuber for so long.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

They know a lot.

[D]

So much of our lives.

[B]

I know what's in my nightstand right now. You know what I mean? I don't even know what's in there. And they know.

[D]

But that's why we have the best fans in the world, though, because they feel like we're so close. Because they know so much. Like, yeah. I always say that I've been blessed with, like, literally the best fans, but it's because they feel like we're family.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Something they don't know about me. I don't know. Am help. What's something they wouldn't know? She's like everything.

[C]

She's like, literally too much into you right now. Really?

[D]

Everyone, guys, I am five. Three. Yeah, I'm five.

[B]

She reads Tom.

[D]

Yes. But it's angled. If you hold the phone below, you look taller.

[B]

And also, you love a platform.

[D]

I love a platform.

[C]

Yeah, my hips come up.

[D]

Yeah, my hips come up a little high. But that is one thing. It's the number one thing. When I meet people on the street, they're like, whoa. They're like, you're little. And I feel like I thought at least five, seven. And I'm like, no, just. This is like, just down here. Just down here.

[C]

Foods that you like, you do it sometimes times in videos.

[D]

But she, like, she is very adventurous when it comes. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Really?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Give her, like, a raw bug.

[B]

She gets. Yum.

[D]

I. That is something about me. I eat everything, and I'm down to try everything. Like, I haven't done frogs. Frog legs yet, but I. I want to be in the right place.

[B]

Big eaters.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I want.

[D]

My parents all conditioned me really young to, like, eat a lot of, like, weird.

[B]

How are they just kind of, like, cooking weird food? And we're like, you're going to eat this?

[D]

Like, we'd go to a Cambodian restaurant.

[B]

Got it.

[D]

Who's going to Cambodian restaurants at 5 years old? You know what I mean? Like, we would like. But also in the Bay, like, especially in San Jose, there's a lot of.

[B]

Like, you're getting a lot of culture.

[C]

There's a lot.

[D]

There's a lot of diversity.

[C]

I have so much family in San Jose.

[D]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Where San Jose is specifically.

[D]

Oh, my God. Born. I still have my 408 number. I'll never get rid of it. I'll never get rid of it.

[B]

I still my Alabama number.

[D]

Really? Yeah.

[C]

I'll never get rid of my San Diego.

[D]

Oh, yeah. See? I'll never get rid of it.

[B]

I love that. Okay, that's actually pretty interesting. What's a weird food you like that you feel like other people don't eat? That you would eat? You're like, everything.

[D]

I mean, oysters. I feel like oysters.

[B]

People hate oysters.

[C]

I'm like, people hate them.

[D]

You hate them.

[B]

The thing is, you had to put so much on them to make them good. I'm like, I don't even taste the damn moisture no more.

[C]

Yeah, you're just tasting sauce.

[D]

Oh, yeah. I love.

[C]

Or like, if I'm. If I. I'm eating an oyster, I need it to be like, ratios like 6 parts lemon, 1 part oyster. It's like I'm just drinking lemon juice. Lemon with. Yeah, it's like, with a salty, like, twist.

[B]

I will say I used to be a picky eater. I was a chicken tender and French fries. LA has some of the best food out there. You're ridiculous. If you're a picky eater here, the food you would miss out on. My God, the best food ever.

[C]

She won't eat fish, though.

[B]

I'm not a fish eater.

[D]

What is it? Is it the thought of the fish?

[B]

Okay, it is.

[D]

So it's not really the taste.

[C]

I know. It's a thought because we had a moment once.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

At the airport.

[B]

We're in a lounge, so he's fixing a little.

[D]

First of all, can I just say, you guys remind me so much of me and Franny, because really, you just finish each other's sentences like you already knew what moment it was before he's. And that's me and Frank, like, every time. We're like. Like, I can say one word. And she's like, the time in Texas.

[B]

And I'm like, yes.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, it's like this weird telepathy.

[C]

It literally is like a telepathy.

[D]

Yeah. Wait, no.

[B]

Franny just.

[D]

Franny just sent me an article. Some, like, new research shows that, like, we, like, if you spend enough time together, like best friends actually have telepathy.

[C]

We get on the same cycle.

[B]

I thought you and Franny were scientists when I met you both.

[D]

Really? Everyone. Everyone thinks we're sisters if we're on vacation and my hair is straightened. Everyone thinks we're twins. It's a whole thing.

[B]

Absolutely.

[D]

Look, scientists discovered that close friends, brains can Synchronize bringing telepathy closer to reality.

[B]

I believe it.

[C]

I. I can promise you that. I believe it.

[B]

Believe it. I can look at him in an event when somebody's being crazy. I can literally just like, give him just like a little look. And he's like.

[C]

And then the car event after. I'm like, that one time. That one time.

[B]

I'm like, we don't got to say anything. And I'm like, yeah.

[D]

Yes. Anyways, I want to hear the fish. Airport.

[B]

Oh, yes, yes, yes. So he has a little plate of food from the lounge because we're hungry. We're in a layover. I. We're in New Zealand. And he's taller than me, so his plate is about my mouth level.

[C]

So I had like, fried on it.

[B]

He had fried food on there. So I naturally just started picking food off his plate and eating it as I was making my plate and then eating it too.

[C]

Eating it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm literally like. Because his plate's done, so I'm like, naturally gonna eat my brother's food first. So I take a huge hunk of his fried meat and I put my mouth. And I'm like, may. Like, that was fish.

[C]

No, no, get this. I'm like, how is that? No, cuz I know it's fish. I know it's fish. I'm like. I was like, what do you think? Think? No, she's like, it's good. Like, it's like, it tastes like. She's like, it's good. Like, I like, this is like chicken. And I was like, it's fish. And she literally goes on my plate.

[B]

And I'm like, on the plate.

[C]

I was like, like a baby bird. Like asa chura. That was her. Yes.

[D]

That is so funny.

[C]

And it was just like the idea of the fish.

[B]

I freaked out. That's how I know it's the idea.

[C]

Yeah, that's how I know too.

[D]

My dad.

[C]

Well, you tasted it.

[B]

Yeah. Is he eat.

[D]

My dad's a vegetarian.

[B]

Oh.

[D]

So I grew up with that my whole life. He turned vegetarian when he was like 20.

[B]

But you will eat more interesting food if you live with a vegetarian because they get a little more creative.

[D]

I mean, I dated. I dated a vegan for like eight months and I was fully vegan.

[C]

Really? Yeah.

[D]

I was like, when I'm in a.

[C]

Relationship, it's probably, like, hard too.

[D]

Like, when I'm in a relationship, I just like, oh. I just, like, want to, like, please. And I was like. And he has his one rule. Was his one rule. He didn't. He didn't care that I ate meat. Meat. But his one rule was I couldn't eat meat in his house.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

And I was there all the time. So. But he also was like this amazing chef. Ah, he wasn't a chef by career. Like, he loves it, his career, but.

[C]

He can make amazing things.

[D]

So, like.

[B]

So I was fine, totally.

[D]

But I can't do it, girl.

[B]

I would have slipped a chicken nugget.

[C]

I can't eat meat. I'm like, I'm eating chicken nuggets in your house.

[D]

Wait, have you tried alligator?

[B]

Yes. Very chewy.

[D]

I like it. It's a kind of like chicken.

[B]

Doesn't bother me though.

[C]

It's too gamey.

[B]

Alabama, though.

[D]

Alabama. I've never been to Alabama.

[B]

There's nothing there. You won't ever go?

[D]

I don't think so.

[B]

We don't even have a big enough airport for a direct flight, babe.

[D]

Got it.

[B]

Not a lot going on. Sorry. Alabama ends. It's true. You know it.

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Bring your A game and talk to your doctor. Learn [e-mail] or call 1-888-240-0340. Okay, an alternate. I like this question because of how much we talked about your dancing and like your career since five. So this is great. In an alternate universe, what would your career be? Can't be dancing, can't be singing.

[D]

I'd be. I thought I was going to go into political science at one point just because I was president. Like all. Basically all. Basically all four Years of high school, and I really just, like, loved, I don't know, maybe a lawyer.

[C]

I did.

[D]

I liked being the boss. I did.

[C]

I like boxing. These little.

[D]

I did. But I will say I wasn't like that, you know, or maybe I was. I don't know. I would love to ask, like, I. I still am really close. Like, I was just with, like, my best high school friend, like, three weeks ago in New York. But I would love to talk to the people that I wasn't really close to and be like. Like, was I that typical stereotypical character that's written into the movies? Like, walking around with her clipboard being like, you know, was I that girl? I don't remember.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But I loved it. I. I just love. I just loved, like, being able to just, like, do good things.

[B]

Like, he kind of deal with the Dodgers thing.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That touches poly silence. Kiss a kiss. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. I think I'd be a lawyer.

[B]

Or I'd be like.

[C]

She'd be like an all sphere.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

She'd be Kim.

[D]

And also, I pull a Kim. Yeah, I pull a Kim. If there's still time, I could still go to school.

[B]

You had plenty. Kim's doing it now at 45.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, listen, you have plenty of time.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What's one song of yours you feel like, deserves a little more love?

[D]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

You're like. Well, now that you mentioned it.

[D]

Now that you mention it. Dang. I don't know. It's an oldie, but it's like one of my most streamed songs. And I. I wanna. I want it to have this. Like, I want to have it be reborn. I want. I would love to put a feature on it, but. Corazon Frio, I think it's a song that kind of, like. No, I wouldn't say changed my life because it's not like I'm, like, freaking performing at super bowl, but I feel like Corus on Frio sounds like. I just know. I just know that if that song had been given to, like, Carol G, or if that song had been given to an artist that's popping off, that song would be a number one.

[B]

See, that's the answer I was looking for.

[D]

Number one.

[B]

What is the song that you just know?

[D]

1000% sickening. Yeah, for sure.

[C]

Be on my way home.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm serious. I'm gonna have you pull it up for me because I'll never be able to type it out and find it, but you will pull it up for me and I will be listening to it. What's One toxic trait you have.

[C]

Be honest.

[D]

I am going to be honest. Let me think.

[C]

Cuz we all got some.

[D]

Oh my God. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I think I struggle with being wrong and like hardcore. But I also think it comes from like, because I talked to my therapist about this.

[B]

This is good.

[D]

I talked to my therapist, but I was like, why? I was like, why did you, it irk me if like I know I'm right. I just can't. And he. And I've, I realized that like growing up, like obviously immigrant Hispanic parents can be tough man. And my mom was convinced that I was on drugs growing up. Oh, convinced. I go, no, that's called teen angst.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Convinced that I was on drugs. I didn't, I still have not done anything. Like I did not touch, touch any of that stuff. And she was convinced. And so like there were so many times that like we'd get into that argument be like, I swear. And she wouldn't believe me. I think that's the issue. My talk to straight is I, I, I can't stand when people don't believe me. And I just have to like, get over that because like, how are you supposed to convince someone that literally doesn't believe you? It's like a waste of your time. And also, I'm not fun in work mode.

[C]

Mode.

[D]

Yeah, me, I know that. And I always preface my boyfriends with that. That is the number one thing I preface them. Which she knows because I prefaced keying. I was like, just so you know, like if I'm on my laptop and I'm editing a video, send me a text that you're trying to get my attention. Don't tap me on the show. Like if I'm in work mode. Like I'm just trying to get something done. And if you're asked, if you're trying to get something out of me, you're not gonna get it. But also like on set of music videos, I'm not fun. Like I, I'm just like, so want it to come out perfect. And I'm still like, I'm so sweet to everyone but like, well, you're in a boss mode. Yeah. But it has been a thing in every relationship and I've gotten better. He says I've gotten better. So I. But it is a thing in every relationship that like I, I'm not fun when I'm in work mode.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. I love that. But I've noticed most, I'm not fun in my work. I get very serious.

[D]

This. Yeah.

[B]

And things Aren't funny. And I mean what I say. And I'm like, when it's time to get done. You know what I mean?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

What's an ick that influencers give you?

[D]

Oh my gosh. I.

[C]

She's like, there's so many.

[D]

I think, I think it's just like, we're in 2025, right? We're in 2025. We're almost 2026. 6. And sometimes I see videos that I'm like, that was. And I'm not. I'm not talking about trends. I'm just talking about like, dang, how do I put this? I just feel like.

[C]

You can just.

[D]

You can say you got me.

[C]

Like, just say it.

[B]

Say it.

[D]

Just like, like, for example, I just saw someone like, and I was like, we're still, still. You're still doing that. Like, there's no way, like, how are you gonna. Like, how are you going to continue an income off, like doing that? And it's like the super cringe. Like over the top. Like. But maybe there is. Maybe that's just not my like thing. But there is, there's. There is. There's a demographic for that.

[C]

It's the over top cringe.

[D]

It's the over top.

[C]

I know it well.

[D]

Cringe. But also that was me when I started.

[B]

But it can still ick you out now.

[D]

When I started my YouTube channel. Hey guys, it's Neza. And I'm like, why did no one tell me that? I was screaming at the camera.

[B]

But I feel like that's what hooks the audience. But I totally get it. Once you're past it, you're like, okay, that's really why the annoying. That's really annoying to watch from the third party perspective.

[D]

I want to say this other thing.

[B]

But I can't say it. I can't.

[D]

No, I really can't. No, I really can't.

[B]

Our influencer. Ick.

[C]

I have so many unfortunate. I do.

[B]

One of his worst ones is how people sell stuff on Tik Tok Shop.

[C]

Yeah, I hate that.

[B]

The run. Don't walk that off. Really bad run.

[C]

You guys don't walk. There's a sale. I'm like, you, I'm walking.

[D]

Or like, or like the fake skits for Tik Tok Shop.

[C]

Girl.

[B]

Oh girl.

[C]

Honestly, the T shop, it actually goes quite deep for me. It's actually quite fierce. Cuz I don't like when people sell me something when they're lying about the product specifically or what it does. Cuz it just. I just got forgot.

[D]

But also like, we're in 2025. How are we still lying about stuff like that? Like, how are you not promote. How are you not promoting stuff that you aren't using? I would. I could never.

[C]

Yeah, I genuinely don't understand. Truly.

[B]

One of mine is a. I forgot it. Oh, I know, I know. I have 50. I don't like when influencers act like they're better than other people. Like, I'm the most honest. We tell the truth over here. Realist review. Everyone else is a liar. I'm like, shut up.

[D]

Shut the up. Shut up.

[C]

You have an opinion.

[B]

Like, you have to say you're the most honest. You're a liar.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Chances are you're probably a liar.

[C]

Exactly.

[D]

You know, like they.

[B]

They put themselves on a pedestal. And to put down other influencers to show that their page is the best. Your page is the best. You'll acquire an audience as is. You know what I mean? You don't have to put down other influencers. It doesn't mean everyone's a liar. Just cuz you told an honest review. Like, I hate when influencers do that. Okay, what's one? If for one word to describe you, what would it be? Just one word.

[D]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

National anthem.

[C]

National.

[D]

National. Yeah, just national.

[B]

I'm just kidding. That's toxic.

[D]

I don't know. I would say. I would say workaholic, I guess.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. Either perfectionist or worker. No, workaholic. I like that. I just like, there's so many things I want to do, like even beyond music. Like, my dream is to adapt books into film. I read like a book, two books a week. It's my second passion. I mean, Freddie and I mainly read smut if y' all are.

[C]

I just started reading Acotar. Do you know what that is?

[D]

Of course. I read it all in one week. Wait, what book are you on?

[C]

I won the first one.

[D]

I'm so jealous.

[C]

2% in.

[D]

I'm so jealous. I would do anything to erase that series from my mind and reread it.

[C]

I think you have to read it.

[D]

I think they just started casting. Yeah, I think they just started casting. Just listen to the audiobook.

[B]

I'm a reader.

[C]

Yeah, she likes to read it.

[D]

Yeah, then you have to. And Fourth Wing, you have to read Fourth Wing.

[C]

Fourth Wing is the other one that people could tell me about as well.

[D]

It's very similar. Okay, but it's just as good. But I mean, I read everything. I mean, my favorite book isn't even in that realm. It's called Brain on fire.

[B]

That's my room.

[D]

Oh, so you haven't read this. Oh please read. So it's a true story. The it happened to the author. It's actually a movie as well, I.

[B]

Think it's not my genre. I'm self development. But it sounded like, I mean. Self development.

[D]

Yeah. So she was a journalist and out of nowhere one day she just started to have these symptoms. And this whole book is like the journey of her getting her official diagnosis and it's of her autoimmune disease. And because of her and this happened like in the early 90s I believe because of her now that autoimmune disease is now kids are actually being properly medicated and it's being recognized because before people would just rule it out as schizophrenia and then they get put on schizophrenic meds and then they'd get worse or they'd be like bipolar and then so be so because of her like thousands maybe even now it's like in the hundreds of thousands of people are now being diagnosed properly. But the journey from when it starts to also how they uncover it is crazy.

[B]

Oh my God.

[D]

And what's also cool, after you read the book, there's footage of her in her hospital bed having the episodes like from the hospital cam that's on YouTube that you can also watch like in real time of her. Her actual self.

[B]

Oh my gosh.

[D]

It's. I recommend it to everyone. I. And also it's cool you can like highlight. I learned so many medical terms through it too. Which was cool and like, like yeah, I was hooked.

[B]

That's amazing.

[D]

Yeah. Brain on fire. Have you read the Vanishing half?

[B]

What's that?

[D]

I. If I'm trying to pitch it to an I want someone to make it into a film. Cuz I've never.

[B]

It's.

[D]

I've never seen anyone kind of like touch on the. Anyways, it's in this like madeup world, everyone's still human. It's these two sisters that are twins. Twins. And they grow up in this city, not city town that is purposely all very white and light skinned people. And like they've bred to be that way. And then so because of that these two girls are very. They're half black and half white but they're very light skinned. And the. And how do I explain this? Basically they're like we gotta get out of this town. Like we got it, we gotta get out of here. One sister decides to live her life as white passing and the other sister ends up having a very Dark skinned child and comes back to the town. So the book is mainly. The book is mainly starts off with that sister walking into the town hand in hand with her dark child. And everyone's like in a frenzy. Wow. And then it's her on the hunt to try and find her sister because they separated. She doesn't. So she has no idea that her sister's been passing as a white woman.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[D]

I'm like, why has no one made this into us? I think it takes place in, like the 40s. Like this one. Like, women were like secretaries. Like, like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No rights.

[D]

No rights. No women's rights. Yeah.

[B]

Incredible.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Imagine that as a film that'll get.

[B]

Made into the film.

[D]

I want it so badly. That's dream. See, now I'm getting passionate about books. I could talk about it for forever.

[B]

I know. I love it. You know Reese Witherspoon has that.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

That's like what she.

[D]

I have studied her blueprint.

[B]

Her blueprint is. And she's like a billionaire from turning books to movies. That's what she does. Okay, one last question. What's your dream musical artist collab? Just. I'm like, only one person. I'm just kidding. Could be a double feature.

[D]

Could be a double. Could be a double feature.

[C]

Dang.

[D]

I don't know. I've always.

[B]

We knew it was DJ Palace.

[D]

Love him. I've always. This one is just the first one that comes to mind. But I've always wanted to do a song with Bruno Mars.

[B]

So cool.

[C]

I feel like.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And because, like, beautiful.

[D]

He's not like. He's always been sort of on the pot in the pop realm. So like that Bruno.

[B]

He can also do anything. Bruno can do anything. He can do anything.

[D]

Yeah. Bruno Mars, Doja. Cat's like, my. Like, I study that woman. I study her, like. Yeah, it's. She's unbelievable.

[B]

Yeah. I love her.

[D]

And then on the Latin end, I mean, I'll take anybody. Everyone's killing it. Carol G. J Balvin, obviously bad bunny.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But also young Miko is like my. Like.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I just discovered Yummy recently, actually.

[D]

Oh, she's fire.

[B]

Wow. Well, anything else you want to share?

[C]

Yeah, is there anything else you want to share? Give a little tea, like, anything. Like.

[D]

I know I was telling. I telling them earlier, guys. No, Yeah. I have. I have two things that I'm so excited to announce. One is being announced on the 15th, which I will obviously announce, like, online. So I'm super excited. I can't. I obviously can't believe it. I'm still pinching myself every day. And then an album on the way next year. Yeah.

[C]

I cannot.

[D]

I'm starting from scratch. Like, I'm truly, like, just like, I'm going to disappear for like two months and just go in the studio and.

[B]

Like, that's what it's about.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You have to, though. Yeah. Like, buckle down.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Thank you for coming. We loved having thanks for.

[D]

No. When you guys asked, I was like, guess what? I know, guys. I love you guys so much. Like, I look up to you guys. You have no idea. So much. I mean, when I started my YouTube channel, I was like, I think I was only. I'm not subscribed to many people, but like you, I've been subscribed to you guys since like 2011, 2012. So. Yeah.

[B]

Well, we love you. We were very excited to have you today. You've been on our guest list for this year. We're like, will she close out the year with us? We were saying on our. And we're like, damn, I hope she'll come on for us and close out our year for us.

[C]

Literally.

[B]

Thank you so much. We're me and Manny. Just know we're always in your corner. We're always screaming for the rooftops rooting from you. Truly.

[D]

I know we have now we have to just get Manny at Hot 8.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Join me and Laura at Hot Yoga. I love it.

[C]

Yeah. Well, guys, we'll leave of course, everything from as a link down below. So you guys definitely, definitely check her out. But we'll see you guys in our next episode.

[D]

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