Footballguys Fantasy Football Show – Best Trade Targets Heading Into Week 8
Podcast: Footballguys Fantasy Football Show
Date: October 22, 2025
Hosts: Alfredo Brown, Dave Kluge
Theme: The top buy-low, sell-high, and must-target players in fantasy football entering Week 8, with a focus on actionable trade strategy and league-winning moves.
Episode Overview
Alfredo and Dave dive into their top trade targets and sells for Week 8, emphasizing bold moves that could shape the rest of your season. They mix their usual friendly banter with sharp, data-driven takes on specific player situations. Topics include the impacts of major injuries, shifts in offensive roles, and how to navigate hype and disappointment amidst fantasy chaos.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Setting the Stage: Trade Philosophy and Current Life
- [03:29] Alfredo intros the show, highlighting the contrasting trade approaches:
- Dave: Focused on “buying low”—seeking value from slumping but talented players.
- Alfredo: All-in on “big swings”—willing to take larger risks targeting players who could flip a league.
Buy-Low & Big Swing Trade Targets
1. Zay Flowers (WR, BAL) [04:09] – Dave
- “We were talking about the year three breakout... Zay Flowers is pulling the career best target share, 29%—eighth best in the league right now. This guy’s operating as a true wide receiver one this year.” — Dave Kluge [04:41]
- Flowers’ production dipped due to Lamar Jackson's injury, but he remains a focal point. Once Lamar returns, expect a bounce back.
- Trade suggestions: Would offer names like Brian Thomas Jr., Chris Olave, Marvin Harrison Jr., or splitting Seattle RBs for Flowers.
2. Derrick Henry (RB, BAL) [05:45] – Alfredo
- “Derrick Henry right now: number two running back in terms of expected fantasy points per game... The schedule isn’t perfect, but it’s decent. Worst case, he’s a running back two; everything shakes right and he’s got RB1 upside.” — Alfredo Brown [06:47]
- Pointed out Henry’s splits depending on team scoring (huge bump over 21+ points) and noted Lamar’s return will ease defensive pressure.
- Strategic note: Ideal for teams needing to make a big playoff push, regardless of current record.
3. Chase Brown (RB, CIN) [10:55] – Dave
- “This is the first sign of life [for Brown]. I think a lot of people are just saying, ‘I want to offload this guy.’ ... He can be a plug-and-play RB2 going forward now because the threat of a passing game with Joe Flacco is going to open up those lanes.” — Dave Kluge [12:19]
- Buying after his breakout week still possible; psychological aspect in managers wanting to cut losses.
- Players Dave’d move: Jaylen Warren, both Seattle RBs (Ken Walker, Zach Charbonnet), Rhamondre Stevenson, Jameson Williams.
4. Brock Bowers (TE, LV) [15:25] – Alfredo
- “I want to take the big swing on [Brock Bowers]... All the stars have aligned for this price to be as low as possible: missing time, the Raiders are bad, it’s on the bye week. The team that drafted him has probably been desperate and frustrated.” — Alfredo Brown [16:20]
- Noted Bowers' elite potential; Michael Mayer’s role helps, not hurts. Caution due to injury, but recent reports have him near full strength.
5. Stefon Diggs (WR, NE) [20:38] – Dave
- “Still one of the biggest buys in fantasy football. He’s fourth in targets per route run... The issue is he’s 73rd in routes run, not getting the full snap share—yet. But on a per-route-run basis, he’s elite.” — Dave Kluge [21:15]
- Full health could unlock WR1 output; New England offense provides opportunity.
- Trade for Diggs: “Jameson Williams, Matthew Golden, DJ Moore, Terry McLaurin—those are all guys I’d be happy to move if I’m getting Stefon Diggs in return.” [22:32]
6. Rome Odunze (WR1, CHI) [24:07] – Alfredo
- “This is two games back-to-back where it’s just happenstance we’re not seeing the same Rome Odunze. ...When you have the number one receiver on a flourishing offense, I want that chance for touchdowns and steady targets.” — Alfredo Brown [24:07]
- Great schedule upcoming and recency bias suppressing his perceived value.
- Discussion: Dave and Alfredo discuss close ROS (rest-of-season) rankings with Odunze, A.J. Brown, and others.
Sell Candidates / Players to Move
1. Zach Charbonnet (RB, SEA) [27:59] – Alfredo
- “I just want off the ride... You don’t want to start him because you don’t know how many touches he’s gonna get. ...If I can get one of the players we mentioned earlier for Zach Charbonnet, I’m in.” — Alfredo Brown [29:20]
- Touchdown-dependent, low upside unless injury hits Ken Walker; recent big games are sell-high moments.
- Counterpoint: Dave pushes back, calling Charbonnet a solid flex/RB3 with elite contingent upside if Walker goes down. “Maybe I’m just a sucker, but I like this Kubiak offense. I like the talent level.” [34:00]
2. Brian Thomas Jr. (WR, JAC) [35:03] – Dave
- “Maybe this isn’t what I should be doing, but I’m starting to get very, very worried... Travis Hunter’s breakout is real and Brian Thomas Jr. is looking more like Jameson Williams/Alec Pierce than a true WR1.” — Dave Kluge [36:16]
- Target trend is concerning; Travis Hunter emerging as the real alpha.
- Trade suggestions: "I’d trade Thomas Jr. for Quentin Johnston, Zay Flowers, DK Metcalf, Garrett Wilson, Travis Etienne, DeAndre Swift."
- Alfredo: “If I could do Brian Thomas for Zay Flowers straight up, I’m doing that 100%.” [37:57]
Notable Fantasy "Buy for Nothing" Target
- TreVeyon Henderson (RB, OSU/FA) [27:19]
- “I’m almost willing to buy [him] just because everyone’s panicking. If you can get him for nothing, I mean…” — Dave Kluge [27:46]
- May be available for free or as a throw-in—worth a stash if you can get him cheaply.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- "This is why they lost the war." — Alfredo Brown, after Dave raves about the Great British Bake Off [03:14]
- Dave shares a Super Bowl MVP Joe Flacco anecdote on postgame nerves and “not wanting to look bad in front of the cool kids” [14:07]
- On trading philosophies: “If you’re 6–1, take the big swing. If you’re 1–6, take the big swing. At this point, we’re all at that point anyway. Second place is no moral victory.” — Alfredo Brown [06:52]
- “He looked like a YouTube thumbnail.” — Alfredo Brown, on Joe Flacco’s face after a Jamar Chase drop [15:18]
- The DK Metcalf–Brian Thomas Jr. comp: “We wishcasted for years that DK Metcalf would become this well-rounded, versatile receiver and it just never really happened.” — Dave Kluge [38:06]
Key Timestamps for Player Deep-Dives
- 03:29 — Episode officially kicks off: trade approaches defined
- 04:09 — Zay Flowers buy rationale
- 05:45 — Derrick Henry’s bounce-back odds & schedule
- 10:55 — Chase Brown’s RB2 outlook with Joe Flacco
- 15:25 — Brock Bowers’ buy window, injury update
- 20:38 — Stefon Diggs as overlooked WR1/3 trade option
- 24:07 — Rome Odunze’s buy-low window amid tough game scripts
- 27:59 — Zach Charbonnet’s sell-high opportunity + debate
- 35:03 — Brian Thomas Jr. as a sell—Hunter’s impact and declining trend
Summary Table: Key Buy & Sell Recommendations
| Buy | Reason | Sell (or Fade) | Reason | |--------------------|--------------------------------------------|---------------------|------------------------------------------------| | Zay Flowers | Target share, pending Lamar return | Zach Charbonnet | TD dependent, unpredictable role | | Derrick Henry | Expected FP, offense bounce back | Brian Thomas Jr. | Losing alpha status, role mismatch | | Chase Brown | Emerging w/ Flacco, buy from disgruntled | | | | Brock Bowers | Elite TE, low point for price | | | | Stefon Diggs | Route/tgt share, ascending NE offense | | | | Rome Odunze | Clear WR1, buy-low window | | | | TreVeyon Henderson | "Buy for nothing" stash | | |
Tone & Style
- Banter is witty and relaxed, but advice is clear, actionable, and grounded in recent trends.
- Hosts don’t shy from strong takes, enjoy playful disagreement, and always support opinions with data.
- Dave and Alfredo actively challenge groupthink—encouraging listeners to zig when the crowd zags.
Conclusion & Takeaway
This week’s episode drills into the art of trading—not just the "who" but the "why." The message: Be bold, measure risk, and use narrative lulls and injury scares as strategic leverage. Whether you’re making a playoff push or salvaging a tough season, now’s the time to make those pivotal deals—before roles, health, and perceptions lock in for the stretch run.
“There’s no moral victory for second place.” — Alfredo Brown [20:23]
For actionable trade targets and nuanced, data-driven advice, this episode is a must-listen for any fantasy manager ready to “take the big swing.”